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taconehello, where and with which permissions shuold an ssl certificate .key file be stored to be usable with apache ?00:15
taconeis there a standard practice ?00:15
emgentzul: around ?00:20
zulemgent: not really00:20
emgentok, if you like we can mail you about this.00:21
zulemgent: yes00:21
emgentok thanks :)00:21
krielSo, in the past, I've had apt have a problem and lock up if it only half-downloads a package. So, I removed the entire /var/cache/apt directory to try and clear out apt's cache, hoping it would rebuild. ... it apparently didn't. Any ideas on fixing my blunder? I'd rather not wipe and reload..02:15
wantokkriel: you havent told us the error02:15
wantokkriel: and /var/cache/apt/partial is what your looking for02:15
kriel... I nuked all of /var/cache/apt, that's the problem.02:15
captbaritoneCan anyone tell me why if I zip the same file two different time, the resulting zip files have a different md5 hash?02:15
krielhere, have a pastebin. http://pastebin.com/d451157f002:15
taconekriel: I'd  try a dpkg-reconfigure apt . but I really have no idea if it may harm your system further or not, so try at your own risk.02:22
krielIt's not a production server, we're just trying to avoid a wipe and reload.02:23
wantokkriel: does /var/cache/apt/archives exit?02:23
taconewantok: he wiped everything.02:23
wantoktacone: then he should probalby re-create everything ;)02:24
taconelol, trying to reproduce on my intrepid chroot02:24
wantokcaptbaritone: files contents changed?02:24
taconethat's what the chroot is all about: have fun ! :-D02:24
captbaritoneno02:24
captbaritonegive it a try on your machine02:25
taconeok I get the same error of him02:25
taconeuhm, no, seems not to work02:25
krielbyeh, got it. >> I'm not sure what the other guy did, because he dosen't know what dpkg-reconfig is, but whatever he did, apt's working again.02:25
taconelol02:26
taconenot for me :D02:26
* wantok bbs02:28
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Kamping_Kaiseranyone tried ebox (from thier ppa, or the 8.04 repo) for adminging samba/nfs/squid with authentication (basically, a school proxy/server).05:22
Kamping_Kaiserwell, anything similar :)05:23
Kamping_Kaiseri'm wondering if loosing the ability to admin by ssh+not being able to directly edit files is worth the "easy gui" for users05:23
\shKamping_Kaiser: my opinion, "don't use this software if you know how to edit config files manually" at least, I had my share of bad "webmin" experience in the past (means in the 90ties)06:42
FuRomIs there a linux alternative to using IECapt.exe (http://iecapt.sourceforge.net/) for generating website screenshots automatically?08:11
krautmoin08:50
uvirtbot`New bug: #259006 in php5 (main) "php5 and libtool 2.2 cause some PHP related packages to FTBFS" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25900608:56
kirklandjdstrand: are you familiar with the "service" command on RH systems?11:45
thefishkirkland: thinking of adding that to ubuntu-server?11:46
kirklandat the very least....11:47
kirkland#!/bin/sh11:47
kirklandSCRIPT="$1"11:47
kirklandshift11:47
kirkland/etc/init.d/"$SCRIPT" $@11:47
kirklandthefish: but, yes11:47
kirklandtrying to decide where's the best place to put it, thinking of sysvinit11:47
thefishcouldnt say, but i like the idea11:48
thefishit helps a lot with windows server converts11:48
thefishthey seem to be able to get their head around that a lot easier than /etc/init.d/xyz start11:49
kirklandthefish: true11:50
kirklandthefish: i've been using Ubuntu exclusively for years now, and i still accidentally type "service apache2 restart"11:51
thefish:)11:53
vincentvdkhello11:53
thefishkirkland: it would be nice to have as a kind of standard11:55
thefishwe have mostly an ubu server shop, but there are some rhel boxen as well, so a similar set of service stuff would be useful11:55
thefishim sure there are quite a few places with mixed distros11:56
kirklandthefish: i don't have a RH box on hand...  does the "service" script do more than just put /etc/init.d in front of whatever you call?11:56
thefishkirkland: moment, ill see if i can ssh in (HQ firewall is being a bit iffy...)11:57
maswankirkland: not according to a "man service" on centos511:58
kirklandmaswan: thx11:58
jetoleis there an single sign on application out there that is portable? I mean I can't seam to replicate the AD LDAP to openLDAP and vice versa and I don't want the SSO to _HAVE_ to rely on either Linux or Windows11:59
jdstrandkirkland: not hugwly familiar with it-- I;ve used it a couple of times11:59
jdstrandhugely even...11:59
maswanwell, it does a few other things, like a --full-restart which is a stop; start and a --status-all which is a for a in /etc/init.d/*; $a status11:59
jetolesome way I can keep all login credentials on a linux and windows server and have them update each other?11:59
maswanbut not anything significant11:59
kirklandjdstrand: okay, no worries...  i think i'm dropping it in sysvinit...  does that sound about the right place for it?11:59
jdstrandkirkland: I don't remember the nuances of the 'service' command. does it actually change symlinks, etc?12:01
kirklandjdstrand: not as far as I know12:02
jdstrandkirkland: or is it just a shorthand of doing /etc/init.d/<service> ...12:02
kirklandjdstrand: yes12:02
maswanjdstrand: no, it just runs them.12:02
kirklandjdstrand: very, very simple12:02
maswanjdstrand: chkconfig on the other hand...12:02
maswanor whatever tha'ts called12:02
kirklandjdstrand: trivial "enhancement" to an Ubuntu server, would make many a former RH admins less frustrated with Ubuntu12:02
kirklandchkconfig is more complex12:03
kirklandi'm not tackling that12:03
maswanI've spent all of a couple of hours trying to admin a rhel derivative, so I'm not exactly and expert. I know much more about AIX than RH.12:03
jdstrandkirkland: I think that would be the place, yes. however, if you consider future upstart scripts, then perhaps not12:03
jdstrandkirkland: I'd ping Keybuk12:04
kirklandjdstrand: hmm, good point.12:04
kirklandjdstrand: i'll talk to him12:04
kirklandjdstrand: dendrobates- was very supportive of this little patch12:04
kirklandjdstrand: maybe i'll get him to talk with Keybuk, since they're in a conference room together all week :-)12:04
jdstrandkirkland: sounds entriely reasonable :)12:05
dendrobates-kirkland: we need chkconfig too.12:32
kirklanddendrobates-: i agree... but that's highly none trivial, and potentially against debian policy12:32
kirklandnon-trivial12:33
dendrobates-kirkland: colin thinks that some of the work has already been done.12:33
kirklanddendrobates-: for chkconfig?12:33
kirklanddendrobates-: that functionality is sort of handled on a per-package basis, with their /etc/default/* files, and debconf questions12:34
kirklanddendrobates-: tested/working patch attached to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/25904312:38
uvirtbot`Launchpad bug 259043 in sysvinit "Ubuntu Server would benefit from a "service" wrapper script" [Undecided,New]12:38
Kamping_Kaiser\sh, thanks for the comment. the root of the dilemma is that i know how to do the config, but i dont expect the recipents to (but i will be the ongoing support. grr)14:06
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dendrobates-sommer:  can you still make updates to the server guide?14:43
sommerdendrobates-: yeppers14:45
dendrobates-sommer: what do you think about adding a blub at the end that tells people that support is available?14:52
dendrobates-sommer: we keep having people tell us that they didn't know support was available for ubuntu.14:52
sommerdendrobates-: seems like a good idea to me14:53
sommerdendrobates-: is the end the best place for that?14:54
sommerdendrobates-: seems like it may fit as a subsection to the introduction section14:54
dendrobates-sommer: seems like it.14:54
sommerdendrobates-: is canonical the only place to get support?  just thinking that if other companies have offerings it may be good to list them14:55
dendrobates-sommer: just this url:  http://www.canonical.com/services/support14:56
sommerdendrobates-: okay, I'll add something... isn't there some type of partner program?  or does that not make sense in the "support" context?14:58
ScottKsommer and dendrobates-: What about http://www.ubuntu.com/support it seems a bit more inclusive.15:00
sommerboth seem okay to me15:02
w8tahon a default setup of ubuntu heron server -- is there any kind of firewall running?  particularly one that might be interfearing with connections to a mysql server?15:26
_rubeninstalled: yes, running: no15:26
w8tahok -- cuz i cant talk to my mysql server no matter what15:27
w8tahand i need to15:27
w8tahis it iptables or what?15:27
ScottK-laptopIt's called ufw and it's essentially a simple iptables front end.15:27
w8tahok15:28
ScottK-laptopBy default it's disabled.15:28
sommerw8tah: you should double check /etc/mysql/my.cnf and make sure it's listening on more than the loopback address15:28
w8tahOOHHHH15:28
w8tahok15:28
w8tahbeen too long since i set up a mysql server15:28
w8tahi need to bind the ip of the machine, right?15:30
* w8tah blames getting old15:30
sommerw8tah: yeppers15:30
w8tahthanks15:30
sommernp15:30
w8tahthat was it -- thanks a ton15:31
sommerheh, you're welcome15:31
w8tahsoon as you said that i rememberd having to do something similar when i was running mysql under gentoo but its been over a year since i configured a Mysql server15:32
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kirklandsoren: I'm getting an ubuntu-vm-builder failure: Error: Error opening /dev/shm/vm-builder-kivOw18719/root.raw: Invalid argument16:09
sorenkirkland: That's because parted hates you.16:22
sorenAnd me.16:23
kirklandsoren: bummer, no workaround?16:24
sorenkirkland: I have a patch that fixes it.16:24
sorenkirkland: Until then... Er...16:25
* soren thinks16:25
kirklandsoren: will you be rolling out that patch in the next day or so?16:25
sorenYes. Until then, you should be able to get a bit further if you point your tmpdir at a non-tmpfs.16:25
arakthoris there a way to build a custom install cd (say I want to edit the packages installed by default etc. ) to basically streamline the installs where I work?16:56
jmedinaarakthor: I have used Ubuntu Customization Kit (UCK)17:03
jmedinahttp://uck.sourceforge.net/17:03
uvirtbot`New bug: #259110 in samba (main) "Samba NT_STATUS_PASSWORD_MUST_CHANGE bug" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25911017:06
arakthorjmedina, does it do more than the language?17:08
jmedinaarakthor: you can pre-install packages and configs17:08
arakthorawesome, I will have a look at it. thanks :)17:08
arakthorbleh, doesn't work with server cds17:12
arakthorthanks anyway17:12
arakthorfound the wiki entry on customizing cds so I should be oK17:14
zulinfinity: ping17:21
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ghetekjust making sure you guys can see this...18:29
ghetekanyone?18:29
ScottK-laptopDepends on what this is.18:29
ghetekthis was just text, and thanks!18:30
ghetekhey guys, so i installed mdadm and i was working on creating a raid and somewhere in all of this i mistakenly created md0p1 md0p2 md0p3 and md0p4 how do i just remove these, kill my current array and start over in creating a software raid?18:45
ghetekhey guys i need to share out /dev/md0 to 2 different users on the system so that both users can mount this as a share in windows. can i get some help please? this si all in console18:54
ghetekguys ok so here is my issue i type in  sudo fdisk -l | grep NTFS | awk '{print $1}' and i get back "Disk /dev/sdc doesn't contain a valid partition table."19:15
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ScottKlamont: So the udns maintainer's response on cache poisoning is there's no point in source port TID randomization because DNSSEC is the only one true answer.  See Debian Bug #493599 for laughs.20:43
uvirtbot`Debian bug 493599 in udns "Transaction ID and Source Port not random enough" [Grave,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/49359920:43
lamontScottK: he's right, btw.  Now get real. kthx20:43
ScottKHe's right, of course, but it's rather beside the point.20:43
lamontuntil we have signed root and TLD zones, it doesn't matter20:43
ScottKYep.20:43
ScottKSo I don't think that in the meantime declining to change from trivially spoofable to spoofable with enough bandwidth and other conditions are right is a good approach.20:44
lamontof course, I expect that Kaminsky is just finding these bugs to help push global acceptance of DNSSEC :-p20:44
lamontit's acceptable only if you're not doing recursion. :-)20:44
lamontwhich has the advantage of meaning that you don't have a cache to poison....20:45
ScottKYes.20:45
ScottKI'm still in favor of doing what one can.20:45
maswanlamont: well, some TLDs are signed. you just have to make sure those are in your resolvers trust path and you only care about domains under those TLDs...20:49
ScottKWould those be any TLDs I might care about?20:50
maswanI only know of .se, but there should be a handful of others too.20:50
maswanOf course, I don't know of anything _under_ .se that's signed, but I'm sure there might be something of value. :)20:51
* ScottK ponders applying to ICANN for .signed as a TLD.21:08
AtomicSparkbeyond https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/serverguide/C/openldap-server.html , what do I need to do to setup a Linux "active directory"? I'm not even sure how to configure the clients to pull the users from the server.21:30
lamontScottK: no hardy-backports love for postfix 2.5.4-1???21:31
ScottK-laptoplamont: There was no previous backport to update.21:32
lamontah, ok21:32
ScottK-laptopIt seems like ~2.5.2 to 2.5.4 is not so much of a change.21:33
lamontjust the two CVEs :)21:34
ScottK-laptopRight, but you're going to deal with the only one a sane person has to worry about in a -security upload, so no worries.21:35
lamontright21:37
lamontand actually, that's done, just hasn't published. :-(21:37
ScottK-laptopYes.  That gave me a chance to comment on Friday about how the security support is faster (sometimes) in backports than in -security.21:41
taconezul: around ?22:14
Fenix|workGreetings22:28
Fenix|workI need some help with ubuntu-server and pure-ftpd22:28
Fenix|workI had it all working, now anonymous users don't work any longer22:28
Fenix|workI recently went from gutsy to hardy22:28
Fenix|workso I'm a bit perplexed as to what stopped22:29
Fenix|workanyone have any suggestions?22:29
Fenix|workok, fixed my problem... apears my upgrade deleted the ftp user22:41
Fenix|workre-creating it and it works.22:41
cxo_When i do an apt-get upgrade linux-server, why does it say it's being "kept back"?23:33
arakthoryou need to run apt-get dist-upgrade or use aptitude with U23:54
erichammondcxo_: I'll try to help out here.  If you want to upgrade your kernel, try "apt-get dist-upgrade" and you'll need to reboot afterward.23:54

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