[00:01] <dick-richardson> how do you run the restricted driver manager in kde4? It isn't listed in the menu or under system settings
[00:05] <snarkster> dick-richardson: let me direct you to the right channel.. #kubuntu-kde4
[00:06] <dick-richardson> thanks snarkster!
[00:09] <vilhelm> hello!
[00:09] <vilhelm> I have a problem with Ktorrent
[00:09] <vilhelm> suddenly stopped working :(
[00:10] <vilhelm> cant download any torrents
[00:17] <starenka> hullo, is there a way how to distinguish installed packages by date installed?
[00:22] <Githzerai> starenka: If u use Synaptic, yes. Synaptic has a history option(File -> History). Adept, unfortunately, has no such thing.
[00:32] <SmokeEater85911> i r returned
[00:33] <SmokeEater85911> has anybody installed a dock?
[00:35] <kiba> I have no sooooound
[00:35] <SmokeEater85911> i have no sound in my subwoofer
[00:42] <aenigma-help> Hey guys, I am writing a script and i'm still a n00b and i've run into a problem. The script is a recycling bin for bash and it all works great until I try to remove a file with a space in the name. I am using positional paramaters and calling the removal part of my script pretty much like this: for a in $* ; do mv "$(basename $a)" $trash ; done  I am using the basename command to get around another problem, but it doesn't make
[00:42] <aenigma-help> any difference if it is just $a or the way i have it
[00:42] <aenigma-help> i've tried to call the script like script file\ anme and script "file name" and it always processes "file name" as 2 seperate files
[00:44] <aenigma-help> if nobody knows of a workaround for it it's not a big deal, not much of a limitation really, i was just curious if there is something i'm overlooking, something that could be applied to the same structure of my script as i don't want to rewrite everything for such a little problem
[00:55] <reboot08> how do you view files like open a .jpg or .txt from terminal?just learning terminal cmnds
[00:59]  * reboot08 cracks open hurricane supplies beer and donuts
[01:01] <reboot08> i guess you google it ....hmm
[01:06] <bambinn> hey i need some help, when i go to network servers i see my other computers, but i cant when i click on them there is nothing, and it doesnt ask me for a password.. help!
[01:22] <bambinn> ey i need some help, when i go to network servers i see my other computers, but i cant when i click on them there is nothing, and it doesnt ask me for a password.. help!
[01:41] <osiris> anyone else have problems with ktorrent leaking ram like CARZY ?
[01:42] <osiris> i consider a hundred megs over 2 days to be crazy
[01:42] <osiris> never had this problem in dapper
[02:14] <mateus> ola?
[02:14] <osiris> ?
[02:14] <mateus> td bem com vc?
[02:15] <mateus> vcs*?
[02:15] <osiris> english please
[02:15] <mateus> my englis is bad
[02:15] <osiris> last i knew, this was an english only channel
[02:15] <mateus> dont have braziliam in this channel?
[02:16] <osiris> not that i know of
[02:16] <mateus> you are hacker???
[02:17] <osiris> no
[02:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> !br | mateus
[02:24] <reboot08> hi all
[02:26]  * reboot08 has a question
[02:27] <godas> ola gente
[02:28] <reboot08> wget (url) how do you specify in order to save to say uhmmm desktop?instead of current dir?
[02:30] <favro> reboot08: I would cd ./Desktop first then run it normally :)
[02:30] <reboot08> k
[02:32] <reboot08> can i open a jpg from bash? i know how to do text kinda.bUt cant find anything on opening a jpg from terminal.
[02:33] <reboot08> ty favro
[02:34] <cahyod> hi
[02:34] <reboot08> sup cahyod
[02:35]  * reboot08 is getting hit by tropical storm or hurricane fay 
[02:35] <cahyod> any link to remastering kubuntu?
[02:37] <FuriousGeorge> cahyod: like they do with old analog movies?
[02:38] <FuriousGeorge> i have a copy of kubuntu 6.04 spread over 1845 audio cassettes that ive always wanted to remaster :)
[02:48] <favro> !remaster | cahyod
[03:11] <craig> hello
[03:12] <jimmy51_home> i just lost audio playback while watching a youtube video
[03:12] <jimmy51_home> is there a CLI command to restrart the sound system?
[03:18] <flaccid> jimmy51_home: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[03:19] <jimmy51_home> thanks
[03:20] <jimmy51_home> hmm, still no sound.  i'll just reboot when my download's done, i suppose
[03:21] <jimmy51_home> xine was unable to initialize any audio drivers.
[03:28] <robotgeek> jimmy51_home: do you know what soundcard you have?
[03:29] <genii> lspci | grep Audio                usually tells you
[03:29] <D3sTiN> Hello.
[03:30] <D3sTiN> wow....noone talking.....eesh
[03:31] <favro> D3sTiN: it's not really for chat - see the topic :)
[03:32] <D3sTiN> I understand that, but noone to ask questions to. I cant learn if None answer?
[03:32] <genii> D3sTiN: Read the logs
[03:33] <D3sTiN> well, I guess that goes to show how useful it is to noobs like me. cus I dont know how....L8rz.
[03:34] <genii> !logs
[03:34] <osiris> does anyone else have a problem with ktorrent leaking ram when left running for a few days.
[03:37] <tacosarecool> hello
[03:37] <tacosarecool> I messed up my kubuntu
[03:37] <tacosarecool> In root I renamed home to Home
[03:38] <tacosarecool> please help
[03:38] <genii> tacosarecool: You are on livecd now ?
[03:38] <tacosarecool> No I'm on my windows partition
[03:38] <tacosarecool> Right now
[03:38] <genii> tacosarecool: Please boot to livecd and return here for further instruction
[03:38] <tacosarecool> Is there a command to restore?
[03:39] <genii> tacosarecool: From inside linux yes. From inside windows, no.
[03:39] <tacosarecool> Ok I need to find a new cd to burn though
[03:40] <tacosarecool> But I'm dual booting can't I go in recovery mode?
[03:40] <tacosarecool> I'm not talking about wubi
[03:42] <genii> tacosarecool: Returning here from command line is difficult for a new user. Recommended instead is to do it from livecd. But if you like, install irsii from command line and run it to come here if you like.
[03:44] <flaccid> jimmy51_home: test aplay
[03:44]  * genii hands flaccid a coffee
[03:45] <flaccid> hehe thanks
[03:45] <flaccid> i just got a large flat white with extra shot from the local :)
[03:45] <genii> Cool
[03:45] <johnneylee> he;;p
[03:45] <johnneylee> hello
[03:46] <flaccid> genii is probably on his 27th coffee or something
[03:46] <genii> flaccid: heh, only my 9th or so
[03:46] <johnneylee> 3rd for me..
[03:46] <flaccid> dang
[03:46] <pteague> for some weird reason thunderbird isn't allowing me to click any links & have them open in my browser
[03:47] <flaccid> pteague: thunderbird is a gtk app, you might get better help in #ubuntu or #thunderbird if it exists
[03:47] <Shadowkllr> question- i have my headless kubuntu box running openssh so that I can remotely shell into it, but i also want to use an ftp client to upload files, especially with notepad++.......how do i turn on sftp?
[03:48] <pteague> k, was just wondering as i'm running everything under kubuntu 64bit
[03:48] <flaccid> Shadowkllr: install package openssh-server
[03:48] <flaccid> Shadowkllr: oh you already have it...
[03:48] <Shadowkllr> yeah
[03:48] <flaccid> all good then
[03:48] <genii> pteague: Try changing in : System Settings...Default Applications... Web browser         from "in an application based on the contents of the URL"  to "in the following browser"  then put the name like: firefox %u          or konqueror %u   or opera %u   or so on
[03:49] <flaccid> genii: not sure if that will have an affect on a gtk app like thunderbird hmm
[03:50] <genii> flaccid: Hm, true
[03:50] <flaccid> firefox2 never worked when clicking on a download in the download manager. seems they have fixed that in fx3, maybe its a similar thing
[03:51] <genii> pteague: You could also ask in #ubuntu channel about where specifically in Thunderbird the settings might be for URL handling
[03:51] <flaccid> pteague: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Changing_the_web_browser_invoked_by_Thunderbird
[03:53] <genii> tacosarecool: Welcome back
[03:53] <tacosarecool> do you have aim
[03:53] <tacosarecool> Or something
[03:53] <genii> tacosarecool: No.
[03:53] <tacosarecool> I've got to do this when I have a new cd to burn
[03:54] <tacosarecool> Wait what email you have
[03:54] <genii> tacosarecool: I'm here quite regularly. Try about this hour on weeknights and I'm likely here
[03:55] <genii> tacosarecool: Besides which your issue can be solved quite easily by returning the name of your home directory back to what it should be. This can be done easily once you can boot into linux and access your linux install partition.
[03:56] <some_dude> does the kde 4.1 use less memory than kde 3.5 ?
[03:56] <genii> some_dude: Not in my experience
[03:56] <tacosarecool> Oh will it matter if I use a kubuntu or ubuntu live cd
[03:56] <flaccid> some_dude: yes
[03:56] <genii> tacosarecool: No, does not matter
[03:57] <some_dude> flaccid: a lot less ? and is it as customizalbe ?
[03:57] <genii> flaccid: PErhaps I'm not seeing the efficient ram usage because I still use the 3.5 Konversation  ..... ;)
[03:58] <some_dude> i wonder if gnome will ever catch up
[03:58] <flaccid> some_dude: less because of qt4, dont know how much and its not as feature packed as kde3
[03:58] <flaccid> gnome is in front with functionality
[03:59] <some_dude> how ?
[03:59] <some_dude> I've not used gnome much, so I don't know
[03:59] <flaccid> gui frontends to things like config
[03:59] <flaccid> desktop effects
[03:59] <some_dude> oh, vim does not count  as gui frontend ?
[04:00] <baudthief> Anyone know if theres a feature in compiz-fusion, where if you drag a window and let go, it keeps sliding? ie: like flicking a window off screen, It used to be in beryl
[04:00] <tacosarecool> I know the flicking is in gnome
[04:00] <flaccid> vim isn't not a gui, its a tui
[04:00] <some_dude> but I run it in konsole, does that give it any points ?
[04:00] <genii> baudthief: Perhaps they'll know in #compiz-fusion channel
[04:00] <flaccid> baudthief: #compiz-fusion
[04:00] <some_dude> baudthief:  like the wobby windows ?
[04:01] <baudthief> some_dude: nope
[04:01] <some_dude> baudthief: #compiz-fusion
[04:01] <baudthief> genii, flaccid: thanks heh
[04:01] <some_dude> lol
[04:01] <baudthief> some_dude: shut up :P
[04:02] <some_dude> let met take a second to say, after running linux for about 6 months, I don't so much like windows
[04:03] <tacosarecool> Me too Amarok is awesome
[04:03] <genii> some_dude: What I like about Linux is it is only limited by what you are willing to learn
[04:04] <some_dude> I love that it just works
[04:04] <baudthief> some_dude: agreed, I've moved for about 7 months now, and when I tried using XP on my laptop, it was just too plain and shitty
[04:05] <baudthief> so I got rid of XP and installed Kubuntu on that, too :P
[04:05] <some_dude> oh no, I can't find my driver cd what should I do !!! Running Linux, nothing
[04:05] <corigo> Can anyone poiint me to some resources regarding fonts and font installation on Linux?
[04:05] <some_dude> on my laptop at work, I can change the ipaddress in just 2 seconds
[04:06] <tacosarecool> Right click the fonts actions then install
[04:06] <flaccid> !fonts | corigo
[04:06] <tacosarecool> MSttcore fonts are in synaptic
[04:06] <baudthief> some_dude: if you cant find a driver on linux, you just sit down and cry a bit here :P
[04:06] <some_dude> I've got a few complaints about linux, my biggest being I want more styles and themes and window dectorations
[04:06] <corigo> I have the ttf file local on my hard drive
[04:07] <tacosarecool> Do you have the fonts in a folder?
[04:07] <some_dude> + I can reinstall in 15 mins and loose nothing
[04:07] <corigo> yes
[04:07] <corigo> and zip
[04:07] <tacosarecool> There in a zip?
[04:08] <corigo> I have them extracted and non-extraced
[04:08] <flaccid> corigo: simply follow the above official guide
[04:08] <tacosarecool> Then highlight the extracted ones then right click actions install fonts
[04:10] <tacosarecool> So anybody run flock it's a awesome browser
[04:13] <genii> I go between links and firefox
[04:13] <flaccid> opera for me
[04:14] <tacosarecool> Flock is based off firefox
[04:14] <tacosarecool> It's good for people who use social networks or people who have instability with firefox flock is optimized or something
[04:14] <flaccid> yes its a social web browser, based on gtk and gecko and doesn' have much relevency in a kubuntu support chan :)
[04:15] <tacosarecool> Sorry lol
[04:16] <corigo> yeah opera
[04:16] <corigo> thanks again flaccied
[04:16] <Cannoli> how do i make a parition primary through kunubtu live cd?
[04:16] <Cannoli> btw i dont have internet on that pc
[04:17] <flaccid> Cannoli: i wasn't aware that you could change a partition from extended to primary hmm
[04:18] <Cannoli> i did it before
[04:18] <Cannoli> but i forgot how :(
[04:18] <Cannoli> can i make a parition bootable?
[04:19] <flaccid> um you don't have to, a boot loader looks after that
[04:19] <flaccid> well technically the mbr sets it but thats just a pointer basically
[04:19] <Cannoli> oic
[04:20] <flaccid> what are you trying to achieve?
[04:20] <Cannoli> i think i remember how i did it before, so imma go try that and if no luck i'll come back. thanx for the help :)
[04:20] <Cannoli> oh one of the partitions on my drive has the recovery stuff, and i wanted to "recover" my pc
[04:21] <flaccid> ah
[04:21] <flaccid> you want to set that hidden part as active
[04:21] <Cannoli> yyyeesss
[04:21] <Cannoli> thts it, active, sorry i used the wrong term
[04:21] <flaccid> you should simply follow the doco from your manufacturer as it can be done several different ways
[04:22] <Cannoli> the thing is, i changed it to inactive as far as i remember and i dont remember how to make it active again XD
[04:23] <flaccid> actually im partially wrong here. you can run fdisk and set the bootable flag which is what it might need
[04:23] <flaccid> but you really should follow the instructions from your manufacturer
[04:27] <jshewey> I wish to run a script when the state of a particular keyboard key changes. Specifically, I want to run a script when my function key on my keyboard is pressed and have the script run again when the key is released. Is there a way to do this?
[04:30] <z_> 'ello all.
[04:30] <z_> DOes anyone know exactly what I need to do to get java working in konqueror on kde4?
[04:31] <flaccid> z_: wrong chan, see topic
[04:31] <genii> jshewey: System Settings... Keyboard and Mouse... Keyboard Shortcuts ... Application Shortcuts ....  put there the name of the script and define it to be called by that key
[04:31] <z_> flaccid: oh.....>.> sorry
[04:31] <z_> flaccid: where would I go for kde4 remix?
[04:32] <flaccid> kde3 here, kde4 in #kubuntu-kde4
[04:32] <z_> ty ty.
[04:37] <illriginal> Hey guys... I have a question, what runs faster? Fedora or Kubuntu?
[04:37] <flaccid> !ot | illriginal
[04:37] <illriginal> o.o;
[04:38] <illriginal> hm.. join command doesn't work lol
[04:38] <flaccid> illriginal: /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[04:38] <illriginal> yep
[04:38] <illriginal> i did it here, but didn't work... instead did it in nickserve :X
[04:39] <mrksbrd> just use /j command it works
[04:41] <mrksbrd> whats going on flaccid
[04:47] <illriginal> dood I can join any random room except for ﻿#kubuntu-offtopic o.o;
[04:48] <mrksbrd> try clicking on flaccid's channel link
[04:48] <bdizzle> hi
[04:48] <illriginal> Yeah.. it normally becomes a link when you type out #***** but doesn't even do that
[04:49] <bdizzle> I'm not sure if this is possible, but can I remotely connect to my desktop from my laptop and view its two physical drives (five partitons) on my laptop as extra drives and transfer files over the network?
[04:49] <bdizzle> if so, how?
[04:49] <mrksbrd> must be something w/your irc, worked riight away when I tried it
[04:49] <eeanm> bdizzle: scp?
[04:49] <illriginal> yeah gonna restart pidgin.
[04:50] <mrksbrd> I even showed the link when you typed #*****
[04:50] <eeanm> bdizzle: sshfs  if you want to use normal file tools I guess
[04:51] <bdizzle> sshfs? is that a program or is it command line only?
[04:51] <mrksbrd> bdizzle: Krfb should work
[04:52] <eeanm> bdizzle: command line, but then you'd use normal programs to work with the files after its setup
[04:52] <eeanm> krfb doesn't do file transfers, afaik
[04:52] <bdizzle> hmm, okay
[04:52] <bdizzle> are there instructions somewhere on how to set it up?
[04:53] <mrksbrd> !krfb
[04:53] <mrksbrd> !sshfs
[04:54] <eeanm> bdizzle: well start a ssh server on the desktop, then just install sshfs and read the man page.
[04:54] <bdizzle> okay
[04:54] <joh6nn> anyone know if there's a way to change apt.conf settings based on what network you're connected to?
[04:54] <eeanm> (install sshfs on the laptop)
[04:55] <mrksbrd> http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html
[04:55] <bdizzle> okay, reading the man pages is confusing
[04:55] <bdizzle> I realize that is the way to do it, but I don't have the desktop set up as a server, or anything really
[04:56] <eeanm> install a ssh server is easy
[04:56] <bdizzle> its connected to the network, so it obviously has an IP address and MAC address somewhere, but the user@host thing is confusing
[04:56] <eeanm> you basically just install it to sshd
[04:56] <eeanm> well if thats confusing... yea ok ;)
[04:56] <joh6nn> apt-get install openssh-server
[04:56] <joh6nn> the install scripts will handle the most common use cases for you
[04:57] <bdizzle> is there a gui interface program for it?
[04:57] <bdizzle> or is it only command line?
[04:57] <eeanm> the ssh server doesn't need it
[04:57] <joh6nn> there are probably guis, but i've never used any
[04:57] <bdizzle> I can do command line if I must ... barely, but I still prefer gui (not as powerful, I know, but a bit safer for the novice)
[04:58] <joh6nn> once i figure out what commands you want, i just alias them, or tuck them into shell scripts
[04:58] <eeanm> sshfs hardly needs it: you only do the one command to set it up and then you can work in a gui
[04:58] <joh6nn> and forget about them
[04:58] <bdizzle> hmm, okay
[04:58] <bdizzle> so what do I need to do to setup my desktop as a server then?
[04:58] <eeanm> [22:56] <joh6nn> apt-get install openssh-server
[04:59] <corigo> I've downloaded the 64bit Java BIN file from Sun, now how do I install?
[04:59] <c4rlitox> como me conecto con kubuntu es???
[04:59] <genii> joh6nn: You could do something like make a post-ifup script for each adapter which copies for instance apt.conf.eth0 to apt.conf or similar
[04:59] <bdizzle> eeanm: and then configure it how?
[05:00] <eeanm> you don't configure it
[05:00] <eeanm> I think you just install it
[05:00] <joh6nn> genii: any docs you can point me at for that kind of a thing?
[05:00] <genii> joh6nn: Not offhand but gimme a minute
[05:00] <bdizzle> so then how would I got about connecting to it?
[05:00] <c4rlitox> como me conecto con kubuntu es???
[05:00] <c4rlitox> como me conecta a kubuntu en español???
[05:00] <bdizzle> from my latop?
[05:01] <mr---t-> c4rlitox  /join  kubuntu es
[05:01] <bdizzle> lo siento c4rlitox, per no se mucho espanol para ayudar. Es un version de espanal a kubuntu es
[05:01] <eeanm> bdizzle:  sshfs user@host:/ mountpoint
[05:01] <bdizzle> yeah, what is the @host: /mountpoint part?
[05:01] <mr---t-> c4rlitox:  kubuntu-es
[05:01] <eeanm> well the @ is the @
[05:01] <eeanm> the host is the ip address
[05:02] <c4rlitox> tanks
[05:02] <eeanm> and the :/ means "root directory"
[05:02] <bdizzle> ah, okay
[05:02] <bdizzle> that was what I needed, what the IP address part of host was
[05:02] <bdizzle> how do I look that up on my desktop?
[05:02] <eeanm> ipchicken.com
[05:02] <bdizzle> from CLI?
[05:02] <eeanm> no, a web browser
[05:03] <eeanm> I thought you hated CLI :P
[05:03] <mrksbrd> bdizzle: do you want a file server or just file sharing?
[05:03] <bdizzle> I do, but I can at least navigate it with instructions
[05:03] <eeanm> I guess ipchicken.com won't work if you use a router
[05:03] <bdizzle> not sure, possibly both? need to be able to access and transfer files without a cable
[05:03] <eeanm> ifconfig shows you the ip address
[05:04] <genii> joh6nn: The man page for interfaces has at least some rudimentary examples ( man interfaces   to see this page)
[05:04] <joh6nn> genii: cool, thanks
[05:04] <corigo> cli command for installing a BIN file on Kubuntu?
[05:05] <bdizzle> okay
[05:05] <bdizzle> okay, so to run it, type in sshfs user@ip_address:/ ?
[05:06] <joh6nn> corigo: bin file for what?
[05:06] <eeanm> bdizzle: replace the ? with the name of a directory
[05:07] <bdizzle> okay
[05:07] <eeanm> that you want all the files to show up in
[05:07] <bdizzle> fun
[05:08] <bdizzle> now then, if I have two physical hard drives on the desktop, split into five partitions, and the kubuntu partition is on one of those five, do I need to do something special to connect to it?
[05:08] <bdizzle> both computers dual-boot with XP Pro
[05:08] <eeanm> you'll be able to access everything the kubuntu can access
[05:08] <genii> joh6nn: There is also an old but still not bad example of a similar thing being done here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-105138.html
[05:09] <bdizzle> okay, so I'm typing in "sshfs bdizzle@172.xx.xx.xxx:/home"  and nothing is happening on CLI
[05:09] <eeanm> when your laptop is in windows you can access the SSH server via a program called WinSCP
[05:09] <bdizzle> and no response of any kind from the desktop
[05:09] <eeanm> bdizzle: you forgot the directory
[05:09] <eeanm> for the mount point
[05:09] <bdizzle> hmm?
[05:09] <bdizzle> what do you mean?
[05:09] <joh6nn> genii: this sounds like exactly what i was looking for. thanks!
[05:09] <eeanm> [23:05] <bdizzle> okay, so to run it, type in sshfs user@ip_address:/ ?
[05:10] <eeanm> [23:06] <eeanm> bdizzle: replace the ? with the name of a directory
[05:10] <genii> joh6nn: np
[05:10] <bdizzle> yeah, I'm trying to connect to the home directory I guess
[05:10] <bdizzle> just to start
[05:10] <eeanm> of a local directory
[05:10] <bdizzle> oh, on the laptop you mean?
[05:10] <eeanm> yea
[05:11] <bdizzle> okay, so then sshfs bdizzle@172.xx.xx.xxx:/ home    right?
[05:11] <genii> bdizzle: You have to tell it where you want the ssh filesystem to be available on the local box. (what directory)
[05:11] <forty-seven> hi all, I am having a problem with the system settings -> user management  ---- it says: "The module user management could not be loaded." and possible reasons include out of date modules or third party modules?
[05:11] <tacosarecool> wow
[05:11] <forty-seven> I looked online and it said I need to reinstall kde-guidance
[05:11] <tacosarecool> Mitsui cd
[05:11] <tacosarecool> 's look expensive
[05:11] <eeanm> bdizzle: assuming you have a directory named home
[05:11] <bdizzle> will it tell me if I'm connected at all?
[05:11] <forty-seven> and everytime I try to do that, it doesn't let me apply changes in adept
[05:12] <eeanm> bdizzle: it should prompt you for a password
[05:12] <bdizzle> the only issue I can think of is that both are connected wirelessly to the campus network
[05:12] <corigo> I just installed 64bit Java in the wrong location. How do I uninstall? Or can I simply delete and reinstall in the correct location?
[05:12] <bdizzle> nope, it hasn't yet, after about 30 seconds
[05:12] <joh6nn> forty-seven: try it from the command-line: apt-get install --reinstall kde-guidance
[05:12] <bdizzle> do I need to be logged out on the desktop?
[05:12] <eeanm> bdizzle: well if your campus wireless prevents wireless computers from talking to each other (forget the term, but its a common thing to do) then yea, that would be a problem ;)
[05:13] <eeanm> try pinging
[05:13] <bdizzle> ok
[05:13] <rrm74001> Hey can any one help me with an issue I am having with rEFIt on my Mac?
[05:13] <bdizzle> it claims 0% packet loss
[05:13] <forty-seven> no luck?
[05:14] <mrksbrd> eeanm: if he's just trying to connect under local machine, won't it show all partitions under "storage media" then just double click on the drive to open it up ??
[05:14] <joh6nn> forty-seven: did you run it as sudo?
[05:14] <joh6nn> rrm74001: depends, what's the issue?
[05:14] <forty-seven> yeah hold
[05:14] <forty-seven> http://rafb.net/p/O9Ud1F75.html
[05:15] <bdizzle> I've got both my laptop and my desktop here, both connected wirelessly to the campus network. I'm trying to use my laptop to access, add, delete, and transfer files to my desktop computer
[05:15] <genii> bdizzle: For instance you maybe want the contents of /home/myname on the remote system to be accessible locally at directory /media/sshfs        then:  sshfs me@1.2.3.4:/home/myname /media/sshfs
[05:15] <forty-seven> not sure if it reinstalled or not
[05:15] <forty-seven> but theres no change for sure
[05:15] <rrm74001> Can anyone help me with an issue I am having with rEFIt on my Mac?
[05:15] <mrksbrd> he said he had 5 partitons on one box correct?
[05:15] <bdizzle> ah, okay
[05:15] <genii> Assuming /media/sshfs directory exists, of course
[05:15] <joh6nn> forty-seven: it says it reinstalled, but if there's no change, then that's not what you really need
[05:15] <eeanm> mrksbrd: sshfs just connects to your computer, it doesn't care at all about partitions and stuff
[05:15] <bdizzle> let me try that
[05:16] <forty-seven> :(
[05:16] <mrksbrd> ok I must be misunderstanding him then
[05:16] <eeanm> mrksbrd: ah yea: there are two computers involved :)
[05:17] <joh6nn> forty-seven: try reinstalling kde-systemsettings
[05:17] <forty-seven> ok
[05:17] <mrksbrd> aaahhh
[05:17] <bdizzle> hmm, its not working
[05:17] <bdizzle> its not prompting for password at all
[05:18] <bdizzle> both computers have sshfs and openssh-server installed on them
[05:18] <eeanm> sounds like the ssh server isn't working
[05:18] <joh6nn> bdizzle: i came in late: what exactly are you trying to pull off?
[05:18] <forty-seven> joh6nn: no luck :/
[05:18] <eeanm> bdizzle: do plain ssh user@host and see if that works
[05:18] <eeanm> ssh user@host
[05:19] <bdizzle> trying to set up my desktop so that I can wirelessly connect, add, delete, modify, and transfer files to and from my desktop and laptop, both wirelessly connected through the campus network
[05:19] <bdizzle> okay
[05:19] <joh6nn> forty-seven: hrrmph.  pastebin the exact error you're getting?
[05:19] <bdizzle> should I notice any effect on my desktop when my laptop is trying to connect?
[05:19] <joh6nn> bdizzle: for that, you really don't need sshfs.  or at least, i don't use it.  as long as both machines have the ssh server installed, you can do it through konqueror
[05:19] <joh6nn> probably through dolphin, too, though i don't use dolphin
[05:20] <forty-seven> well
[05:20] <forty-seven> kinda hard, its in the GUI
[05:20] <bdizzle> yeah, ssh isn't prompting me for password, it just hangs there
[05:20] <joh6nn> forty-seven: ah.  screenshot?
[05:20] <forty-seven> It basically says "The module user management could not be loaded." and possible reasons include out of date modules or third party modules
[05:20] <mrksbrd> ok now that i'm on the same page....if his campus network has a firewall & not allowing file sharing then he's going to be SOL.....right?
[05:20] <brmassa> guys, i installed KDE4 on my kubuntu hardy. now can i set the KDE4 login screen instead KDE3's?
[05:21] <joh6nn> forty-seven: try running systemsettings from the terminal?  see if that's more informative?
[05:21] <eeanm> joh6nn: ah true. but the problem bdizzle is having is getting ssh to work at all :)
[05:21] <joh6nn> eeanm: yep, but this reduces the number of hurdles to jump from 2 to 1. ;)
[05:21] <eeanm> bdizzle: maybe you have a firewall or something setup
[05:21] <bdizzle> ...firestarter?
[05:21] <mrksbrd> brmassa: when u log on go to sessions menu & select KDE4
[05:21] <bdizzle> that's about the only thing I can think of
[05:21] <genii> bdizzle: You can normally do like:    ssh -l name ip-address   and login?
[05:21] <bdizzle> unless the school has its own firewall setup
[05:21] <tacosarecool> I found the cd
[05:22] <joh6nn> bdizzle: can you ping the other box?
[05:22] <tacosarecool> genii
[05:22] <bdizzle> let me try again
[05:22] <tacosarecool> I found cd
[05:22] <rrm74001> Hey guys, I synced my partitions using rEFIt, and now I have a random Windows icon show up in the menu.  Any way to get rid of it?  It is not Kubuntu because it says no operating system could be found  :(
[05:22] <tacosarecool> Genii?
[05:22] <bdizzle> yeah, 8 packets sent, 8 packets received, 0% packet loss
[05:22] <forty-seven> joh6nn: how do I do that?
[05:22] <brmassa> mrksbrd: thanks! on kde3 or kde4?
[05:23] <eeanm> bdizzle: firestarter is a firewall, yes ;)
[05:23] <mrksbrd> if u want to use KDE4 then select that @ log on
[05:23] <joh6nn> forty-seven: simple! just open a terminal (konsole) and type "systemsettings". ;)
[05:23] <eeanm> and its probably blocking ssh, unless you explictly set it up to not block ssh
[05:23] <genii> bdizzle: The directory you are trying to mount may not be available underneath of whatever home directory structure they provide. Remember the path you are giving to mount (like 1.2.3.4:/home)   has to exist IN you home directory and not relative to the root of the entire filesystem
[05:23] <eeanm> genii: back up, his ssh server isn't working :D
[05:23] <tacosarecool> Ok genii I found the disc
[05:23] <tacosarecool> I'll reboot
[05:24] <genii> tacosarecool: And you are now booted into it?
[05:24] <bdizzle> hmm, hold on
[05:24] <tacosarecool> I'm going to reboot now
[05:24] <genii> tacosarecool: OK. See you soon
[05:24] <mrksbrd> genii: but even if he's able to ping the other box firewall might be blocking access, there's no way around it unless he can configure the firewall to allow it
[05:25] <bdizzle> okay, I figured out part of the problem
[05:25] <joh6nn> mrksbrd: or he can try changing the ssh port
[05:25] <bdizzle> the login for my laptop and desktop are the same. They are also both connected to the same wireless server and have the same IP address
[05:25] <eeanm> lol
[05:25] <mrksbrd> yea but he'd have to figure out an open port
[05:25] <eeanm> the same ip address?
[05:25] <forty-seven> joh6nn: hrmm seems to open it in a kde window regardless?
[05:25] <eeanm> I'm surprised you can IRC :D
[05:26] <bdizzle> haha
[05:26] <joh6nn> forty-seven: yep, it will, but hopefully it will print stuff in the terminal as you go along
[05:26] <bdizzle> the inet6 address is different, but the ip is the same
[05:26] <bdizzle> and the HWaddr is different
[05:26] <eeanm> your university uses ip6?
[05:26] <bdizzle> I guess
[05:27] <bdizzle> it lists HWaddr, inet addr, Bcast, Mask, inet6 addr
[05:28] <eeanm> sounds like a problem for your campus help desk ;)
[05:29] <bdizzle> rofl, they looked at me stupid when I said I was running linux on my laptop
[05:29] <bdizzle> and desktop
[05:29] <eeanm> well boot up into windows and note that both computer have the same ip
[05:29] <mrksbrd> hmmmm.....how can 2 boxes share same ip.....lol.... that is the ?
[05:29] <eeanm> bdizzle: wait, are you by chance looking at the ip address of the 'lo' device? :D
[05:29] <bdizzle> no, wlan0
[05:29] <eeanm> heh ok
[05:30] <joh6nn> bdizzle: what school is this?
[05:30] <bdizzle> Old Dominion University
[05:30] <bdizzle> I honestly don't know. I just know that thanks to their stupid program, I have to have both desktop and laptop connect to each connect to their wireless WPA system
[05:30] <forty-seven> joh6nn: ok got it -- http://rafb.net/p/XHcsWL40.html
[05:30] <eeanm> that's a creepy name for any DS9 fan ;)
[05:30] <bdizzle> I've had problems with their help desk ever since I put on linux
[05:31] <mrksbrd> let me guess WINBLOWS fans!!!!!....LOL
[05:31] <joh6nn> forty-seven: can you confirm that /usr/share/applications/kde/userconfig.desktop exists?
[05:31] <bdizzle> well, everything is in Vista, XP, XP Pro, and OS X directions
[05:32]  * genii sips his coffee and waits for tacosarecool to get back
[05:32] <bdizzle> the only distro they "kinda" support is Red Hat, because they "think" their server might run it
[05:32] <mrksbrd> lol
[05:32] <mrksbrd> "think"
[05:32] <bdizzle> yeah...
[05:32] <forty-seven> joh6nn: yup, exists
[05:32] <bdizzle> I kinda lost respect for their help desk after that convo
[05:33] <mrksbrd> red hat is confusing
[05:33] <joh6nn> forty-seven: ok, then there are only two things i can think of, based off that error message
[05:33] <mrksbrd> they should stick with one system instead of 5....might make their job easier
[05:34] <joh6nn> the first is that you should try possibly removing /var/tmp/kdecache-x
[05:34] <joh6nn> since there appears to be some kind of permissions issue there
[05:34] <joh6nn> the only other thing i can think of, and that's to do a file search for files named userconfig.  especially python modules named userconfig
[05:35] <forty-seven> hrmm
[05:35] <forty-seven> maybe one more thing
[05:35] <forty-seven> I upgraded python to stackless python
[05:35] <forty-seven> ?
[05:36] <tacosarecool> It
[05:36] <tacosarecool> 's corrupt
[05:36] <tacosarecool> The disc
[05:36] <joh6nn> forty-seven: ahhh
[05:36] <joh6nn> forty-seven: that'd be a decent guess
[05:36] <genii> tacosarecool: Ah. Well, look me up tomorrow then when you can get into a linux environment
[05:36] <joh6nn> forty-seven: i have no idea what that'd do, but if it's not the standard python install, that could definitely cause problems
[05:37] <joh6nn> bdizzle: searched the ODU.edu site, came up with this: http://occs.odu.edu/gettingconnected/wireless/faqs.shtml
[05:37] <forty-seven> it should be pretty compatible... but its the only other thing I can think of
[05:37] <joh6nn> bdizzle: "I use Linux operating system; can I connect to the ODU WLAN?" At this time, use of the Linux operating system with ODU WLAN requires a Cisco wireless card.
[05:37] <bdizzle> ROFLMAO
[05:37] <bdizzle> considering I'm using a Linksys 54G card on my desktop to get it
[05:37] <genii> They sound like idiots
[05:38] <tacosarecool> I'll try the cd again
[05:38] <tacosarecool> Maybe I'll get lucky
[05:38] <bdizzle> and I'm connected to their WPA-Enterprise through knetworkmanager
[05:38] <joh6nn> genii: probably; but they may have done something ridiculous; school networks frequently do
[05:38] <joh6nn> so there's actually about a 50/50 chance that they're right, for some brain-dead reason
[05:39] <mrksbrd> joh6nn: sound like microsoft......
[05:39] <joh6nn> worth asking about, at least
[05:39] <forty-seven> lol @ ODU's WLAN policy
[05:39] <joh6nn> mrksbrd: lots of school networks are supported by MS...
[05:39] <brmassa> mrksbrd: thanks again. the problem is not to use the kde4 session, but use the kde4 login manager (the very screen when i can select the user and password).
[05:39] <mrksbrd> only cisco?
[05:39] <forty-seven> hey, up here the compsci is almost all *nix
[05:39] <forty-seven> :p
[05:39] <forty-seven> in fact, I think they only have windows machines in the lab
[05:39] <forty-seven> lol
[05:39] <genii> bdizzle: Can you ssh in like:   ssh -l your-login-name their-server-ip-or-address
[05:40] <bdizzle> that's what I was doing
[05:40] <bdizzle> until I realized that the ip address was the same for the desktop as the laptop when I did ifconfig and looked at wlan0
[05:40] <genii> bdizzle: And that works (plain ssh into their box?) or not?
[05:41] <joh6nn> bdizzle: try the following: ssh icarus.joh6nn.com -p8787
[05:41] <eeanm> genii: no it doesn't ^.^'
[05:41] <joh6nn> bdizzle: made a typo: that needs to be "-p 8787" at the end
[05:41] <genii> bdizzle: So release the dhcp on one of them with   sudo dhclient -r eth0   (or whatever the adapter is)   then sudo dhclient eth0 (again adjust adapter name accordingly)
[05:41] <joh6nn> that's my home server; that'll give us an idea whether you can hit an ssh server, period
[05:42] <bdizzle> yeah, ssh I can do because I was doing it at Jlab all summer long
[05:42] <genii> bdizzle: To get an IP which is not conflicting
[05:42]  * joh6nn makes a note to re-randomize his port number
[05:42] <bdizzle> lol
[05:42] <eeanm> joh6nn: there's only 65k ya know ;)
[05:42] <mrksbrd> lol....probable have 60 connections coming in right now
[05:43] <forty-seven> hrmm, this sucks. seems like there are only a handful other people with this problem.
[05:43] <eeanm> pretty much anything thats not 22 is good for public connections though, due to ssh bots
[05:43] <joh6nn> eeanm: yeah, but you gotta make sure you're not setting yourself up for a fall when you pick one
[05:43] <forty-seven> and they all speak french or german
[05:43] <joh6nn> mrksbrd: yeah, but that's what denyhosts is for. :)
[05:43] <joh6nn> forty-seven: point me at one of the german posts
[05:43] <mrksbrd> lol
[05:44] <Cannoli> hey
[05:44] <mrksbrd> flaccid having connection issues tonight?...lol
[05:44] <Cannoli> im trying to connect to a wireless connection and this is the error that comes up in the system log: "wlan0:RX WEP frame, decrypt failed"
[05:44] <Cannoli> after that it just askes me to enter the wep key agin, any advice?
[05:45] <joh6nn> sounds like you've got the WEP key wrong
[05:45] <flaccid_> yeah net expired and they cut it off heh
[05:45] <joh6nn> either that or it's not WEP
[05:45] <forty-seven> joh6nn: http://forum.ubuntuusers.de/topic/userconfig-fehlt.-was-jetzt/
[05:45] <Cannoli> it is wep
[05:45] <Cannoli> and its the correct key
[05:45] <mrksbrd> Cannoli: try selecting "hex" or "ascii"
[05:46] <Cannoli> k just a sec
[05:46] <brmassa> guys, how can i use the usplash from KDE4 instead KDE3 after installign it on Hardy?
[05:47] <Cannoli> yay connected
[05:47] <Cannoli> thank you very much mrksbrd
[05:47] <mrksbrd> np
[05:47] <joh6nn> forty-seven: the german thread points to another thread, which suggests that the kubuntu-desktop package may be borked/uninstalled.  you can check and see if it's installed with "dpkg --get-selections kubuntu-dekstop"; i'm not sure how you'd check if it was messed up
[05:48] <forty-seven> its installed :S
[05:48] <forty-seven> well whatever, I guess I can ask again tomorrow
[05:48] <forty-seven> I did have a different question
[05:49] <forty-seven> since I cant use the control panel -- is there any way to setup apache so that it runs under its own user account at startup?
[05:49] <forty-seven> cause I put it in rc.local and it supposedly will start as root now
[05:49] <joh6nn> should be doing that by default
[05:50] <flaccid> forty-seven: yeah by default and there are the User and Group directives for apache conf
[05:50] <joh6nn> forty-seven: did you start with a stock install?
[05:50] <forty-seven> nope
[05:50] <joh6nn> ahh
[05:50] <forty-seven> I dled it and did the make and make install
[05:50] <forty-seven> im running kubuntu desktop
[05:50] <forty-seven> doesnt seem to have the option for it
[05:50] <forty-seven> :p
[05:50] <flaccid> why are you compiling, forty-seven?
[05:50] <joh6nn> forty-seven: i meant, did you start with a stock kubuntu install?
[05:50] <forty-seven> yeah
[05:51] <flaccid> !apache | forty-seven
[05:51] <joh6nn> then yeah, why compile?  was there something you wanted that's not part of the default binary?
[05:51] <infinity_> !nvidia
[05:51] <forty-seven> err?
[05:51] <forty-seven> I didnt get apache with kubuntu, to my knowledge?
[05:51] <flaccid> yes but you can install the package from the repos
[05:51] <joh6nn> it's an available package; you just have to install it
[05:52] <forty-seven> hrmm, I didnt see it under adept?
[05:52] <eeanm> its there
[05:52] <flaccid> !info apache2
[05:52] <eeanm> check out that url
[05:53] <joh6nn> forty-seven: personally, i don't like the guis for package management.  i use the following command from konsole: apt-cache search "search term" | sort
[05:53] <joh6nn> i find it much easier to work with
[05:53] <mrksbrd> flaccid: u having connection issues tonight?...keep seeing u coming & going
[05:53] <joh6nn> and much faster
[05:55] <flaccid> [14:45] <flaccid_> yeah net expired and they cut it off heh
[05:55] <draik> How do I create a cpp into EXE?
[05:55] <mrksbrd> doh!
[05:55] <tacosarecool> Well this sucks
[05:55] <tacosarecool> Because my ubuntu cd is corrupt
[05:55] <flaccid> draik: don't think this is the channel for compiling windows software
[05:56] <draik> Sorry, wrong question in this channel
[05:57] <mrksbrd> flaccid: btw that alien software is awesome
[05:57] <joh6nn> the package converter?
[05:57] <mrksbrd> yea
[05:58] <joh6nn> yeah, it's cool, but as a heads up, it's not an exact science.
[05:58] <joh6nn> i haven't been burned by it yet, but things can go horribly wrong
[05:58] <mrksbrd> so far so good
[05:58]  * mrksbrd crosses his fingers
[05:59] <joh6nn> just use some common sense with it: "should i install this alien-munged package of system critical stuff without first backing up?"
[05:59] <joh6nn> "yeah, why not.  what could go wrong?"
[05:59] <mrksbrd> yea not doing anything system critical
[06:00] <mrksbrd> just basic progs that were in .rpm format
[06:00] <draik> The correct question... I compiled a cpp file and I can run in in Konsole as expected. How do I make it into a desktop shortcut or automated "open konsole - run file - close konsole"?
[06:00] <forty-seven> joh6nn: thanks!! I love the console based adept lol
[06:00] <forty-seven> I liked portage from gentoo
[06:01] <eeanm> draik: if you use kde3, right click on the desktop, Create New, and then Shortcut
[06:01] <eeanm> or similar
[06:02] <joh6nn> forty-seven: yeah, sometimes it's just easier to get things done in the terminal.  never used portage myself, but it sounds appealing.  i suspect i'd grow to hate it though
[06:02] <eeanm> or just bloody move the executable to your desktop ;)
[06:02] <forty-seven> joh6nn: hrmm, keep gettng "E: Unimplemented" when do I do "[...] add apache2.2-common"
[06:02] <mrksbrd> just put the command used in terminal in the "command" section to launch it from desktop
[06:02] <draik> eeanm: I tried that. Never opened konsole
[06:02] <joh6nn> forty-seven: heh.  what if you just try "sudo apt-get install apache2.2-common" ?
[06:03] <eeanm> draik: ah you want it to open konsole? there might be an option for it when you create the shortcut. not sure though.
[06:03] <draik> I tried looking for open in terminal, but it wasn't there
[06:03] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install apache2
[06:03] <forty-seven> getting :D
[06:03] <forty-seven> thanks
[06:04] <eeanm> draik: do konsole --help, maybe there is something.
[06:04] <joh6nn> forty-seven: it sounds like your install may have some issues. ;(
[06:04] <mrksbrd> draik: can u launch the app from Konsole w/manual command?
[06:05] <draik> mrksbrd: Yes
[06:05] <forty-seven> joh6nn: well it finished
[06:05] <forty-seven> not sure how to start it yet..
[06:05] <draik> Got it!
[06:06] <draik> I swear, I looked in advanced options
[06:06] <mrksbrd> then what ever u type in Konsole put that in "command" section of "create shortcut to app" by right clicking on desktop
[06:06] <joh6nn> forty-seven: if you've got all the right packages, it should just be running
[06:06] <joh6nn> check http://localhost/
[06:07] <flaccid> forty-seven: if it doesn't start you can start it with sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start . all this is explained in the wiki page first pasted
[06:07] <forty-seven> yeah, its running and says forbidden
[06:07] <forty-seven> lol
[06:08] <flaccid> check the logs why. the 403 could be because you are not serving any files and its forbidding directory listing by default
[06:08]  * mrksbrd thinks forty-seven should just shut down his puter for tonight.....lol 
[06:08] <joh6nn> shouldn't be.  should just be saying "it worked"
[06:08] <joh6nn> seriously man, it sounds like your install has some issues
[06:08] <genii> draik: right-click on desktop. Create New.... Link to Application.  Application tab - put path and name in window labelled Command. Then click on Advanced option in bottom right corner. Click off "Run in Terminal" and also optionally "Do not close when command exits"
[06:08] <forty-seven> hahaha
[06:08] <forty-seven> I have to reboot
[06:08] <Cannoli> hey there
[06:08] <forty-seven> I forgot that I had rc.local run the last apache install first
[06:09] <joh6nn> ahhh
[06:09] <flaccid> who knows what the state of /var/www is with this user..
[06:09] <flaccid> heh
[06:09] <Cannoli> how do i change my keyboard type, i chose the wrong one on install
[06:09] <draik> genii: Thank you. I got it just a few minutes ago. I think I may have missed this option when I first tried this.
[06:09] <tacosarecool> genii is there any other way
[06:10] <genii> tacosarecool: Not really. Will it boot into Recovery ?
[06:10] <bdizzle> hi, sorry about that
[06:10] <bdizzle> network went down
[06:11] <tacosarecool> Yes I can go in recovery mode
[06:11] <tacosarecool> But I need commands
[06:11] <tacosarecool> For the prompt
[06:11] <bdizzle> anyway, back to bashing of the ODU computing center
[06:11] <genii> tacosarecool: OK. So you did something like:     sudo mv /home /Home   or so, yes?
[06:12] <Cannoli> anyone
[06:12] <tacosarecool> you mean sudo mv/Home
[06:12] <Cannoli> !keyboard
[06:12] <genii> tacosarecool: That would not qualify as a valid command
[06:13] <tacosarecool> Oh ok
[06:13] <genii> tacosarecool: it would be something like:  sudo mv /original-name /some-other-name
[06:14] <genii> tacosarecool: If you did something like:  sudo mv / /home       there could be a big problem
[06:14] <tacosarecool> Ok I'm going to try
[06:14] <tacosarecool> Brb
[06:14] <genii> tacosarecool: Remember home is not capitalized
[06:14] <genii> bah too late
[06:15] <mrksbrd> genii: you aware of any help files in ubuntu help pertaining to Wireless aircards?  (not wifi cards) .....if not I can put it up on help....just don't know what to put it under
[06:16] <genii> mrksbrd: If it's wireless but not wi-fi what category of communications does it fall under?
[06:16] <joh6nn> bdizzle: i'm on my way out, but before i go: all you should need to be able to move files back and forth with ssh is the ssh-server.  so i think really your only problem at this point is the wifi setup.  which you may end up needing to talk to the ODU IT guys about
[06:16] <mrksbrd> they are cards provided by cell phone carriers they work off cwell towers not a typical wifi connection
[06:17] <genii> mrksbrd: So GPRS ?
[06:17] <joh6nn> bdizzle: but once you've got the wifi working, you should be able to browse to sftp://hostname/ in konqueror, and see your the files of your remote computer
[06:17] <mrksbrd> sorta
[06:17] <joh6nn> night all
[06:17] <bdizzle> okay
[06:17] <bdizzle> oh wait, in konqueor?
[06:17] <mrksbrd> night joh6nn
[06:17] <bdizzle> I thought it would be right in the media:/ folder to show up
[06:17] <flaccid> mrksbrd: whats the protocol? hsdpa ?
[06:18] <forty-seven> also really dumb question
[06:18] <forty-seven> how do I set up aliases that are global across all terminal windows and are persistant?
[06:18] <forty-seven> persistent*
[06:18] <genii> mrksbrd: I'd file it under aircard  since there seems to be about 5 different protocols they use
[06:18] <mrksbrd> genii: there are several offtopic sites out there but never was able to find anything thru ubuntu help
[06:19] <flaccid> forty-seven: http://ubuntu-tutorials.com/2007/03/30/creating-shortcuts-with-user-aliases/
[06:19] <mrksbrd> also they run you thru a complex descrip, but when setting it up thru kpp it is very simple....just like setting up a reg dial up
[06:20] <flaccid> mrksbrd: add it to the wireless docs page, it will be moved if needed
[06:20] <mrksbrd> ok
[06:21] <mrksbrd> will have it up in a few days or so
[06:21] <flaccid> !ppp
[06:21] <flaccid> coool
[06:21] <bdizzle> btw, how are Lenovo laptops?
[06:21] <mrksbrd> let me see if it is similar
[06:21] <flaccid> !ot | bdizzle
[06:21] <mrksbrd> bdizzle: never had a complainnt about them
[06:22] <bdizzle> o
[06:22] <bdizzle> k
[06:22] <mrksbrd> they are IBM thinkpads just under their own line
[06:22] <nicholasstorman> hey it's me tacosarecool it worked
[06:22] <nicholasstorman> thanks
[06:22] <forty-seven> ok dumb question again: I looked at the LAMP guide, and there's no mention of getting apache to autostart?
[06:23] <flaccid> forty-seven: it does by default
[06:23] <tacosarecool> It worked
[06:23] <tacosarecool> hooray
[06:23] <forty-seven> D:
[06:23] <forty-seven> should I uninstall apache and reinstall it?
[06:24] <flaccid> forty-seven: why?
[06:24] <tacosarecool> genii you there?
[06:25] <forty-seven> apache2 isnt starting up by default
[06:25] <forty-seven> lol
[06:25] <genii> tacosarecool: Yes, barely :) almost 1:30 am here now
[06:25] <forty-seven> ok, just reinstalled... still isn't running in bg by default?
[06:25] <draik> Is there a way to automate the link every X minutes?
[06:25] <flaccid> forty-seven: turn it on in system settings - system services
[06:26] <draik> How can I automate an app to run every 15 minutes?
[06:26] <forty-seven> hahahaha
[06:26] <flaccid> !cron | draik
[06:27] <flaccid> !info kcron
[06:27] <forty-seven> flaccid: The module System Services could not be loaded
[06:27] <tacosarecool> Oh ok
[06:28] <tacosarecool> Well bye genii
[06:28] <tacosarecool> thanks again
[06:28] <flaccid> forty-seven: try this to fix it: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kde-guidance
[06:29] <flaccid> appears to be a bug
[06:30] <forty-seven> nopee :(
[06:30] <forty-seven> is there any console based access?
[06:31] <TeslaTony> How do I get a list of all processes from the command line?
[06:31] <TeslaTony> Including stuff that isn't running for my user
[06:32] <flaccid> forty-seven: easiest is this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/how-to-controlling-access-to-linux-services.html
[06:32] <flaccid> TeslaTony: ps aux
[06:34] <forty-seven> getting
[06:34] <TeslaTony> flaccid: Thanks
[06:34] <flaccid> forty-seven: actually rcconf is probably even easier
[06:34] <flaccid> np
[06:34] <flaccid> http://theos.in/desktop-linux/removing-unwanted-startup-debian-files-or-services/
[06:35] <flaccid> or just sudo update-rc.d -f apache2 remove
[06:36] <forty-seven> :O
[06:36] <forty-seven> says "No apache MPM package installed"
[06:36] <flaccid> that should be ok i guess
[06:37] <flaccid> oh you wanted to add. im sorry i gave you remove. so just do sudo apt-get install rcconf && sudo rcconf and then select apache2
[06:37] <forty-seven> well I did the update-rc.d remove
[06:37] <flaccid> yeah my bad
[06:38] <forty-seven> lol
[06:38] <forty-seven> ok did that
[06:38] <forty-seven> and now it will be set to startup?
[06:38] <flaccid> yep
[06:39] <forty-seven> argh
[06:39] <forty-seven> lol
[06:40] <flaccid> forty-seven: if you want you could install apache2-mpm-prefork
[06:43] <forty-seven_> test
[06:45] <forty-seven_> test
[06:45] <forty-seven_> ok
[06:45] <lyx> i'm using kde 4.1 and i'm having trouble finding the hibernate button...can someone help me out?
[06:45] <flaccid> lyx: wrong channel, see topic
[06:45] <lyx> on 3.5 i see it clearly
[06:45] <forty-seven_> flaccid: I do "[...] apache2ctl start" and it tells me: /usr/sbin/apache2ctl: 124: /usr/sbin/apache2: not found
[06:47] <jeffp2p> @search mitchner
[06:48] <flaccid> forty-seven_: you need an mpm pkg installed. [15:40] <flaccid> forty-seven: if you want you could install apache2-mpm-prefork <-- do that
[06:49] <forty-seven_> oops k
[06:50] <forty-seven_> so wait, whats the difference? is that apache 2.0?
[06:50] <flaccid> yes
[06:51] <forty-seven_> hm. so wait, what am I doing wrong so that I can't run apache2.2?
[06:51] <flaccid> you failed to install it correctly
[06:53] <forty-seven_> hrm... so 'sudo apt-get install apache2.2-common' is the improper way?
[06:54] <flaccid> correct
[06:54] <flaccid> [15:03] <flaccid> sudo apt-get install apache2 + read the link we pasted first...
[06:55] <forty-seven_> ah, ok. so I have to install apache2 first, then apache2.2 common?
[06:56] <flaccid> no. just apache2 which has the common pkg as a dep...
[06:56] <flaccid> !apache2 | forty-seven_
[06:56] <flaccid> !apache | forty-seven_
[06:57] <forty-seven_> yeaah, I'm following the tasksel procedure
[06:57] <Cannoli> !network
[06:58] <chao1> Hello, ﻿I have photos the are trapped in a corrupted partition on a failing hdd. I have tried testdisk, dd, gnuddrescue, photorec with nothing recovered. I have tried fsck and several other cli commands. Can anyone tell me of another tool that I can install that has a gui frontend that is able to look back through several deletions? There is a tool (expensive) that is called Phoenix or something. Is there anything open source like that?
[06:58] <Cannoli> can kubuntu have a wireless home network with an xp machine?
[06:59] <chao1> yes
[06:59] <chao1> setup samba
[06:59] <flaccid> Cannoli: what exactly do you mean?
[06:59] <chao1> !samba | Cannoli
[07:00] <Cannoli> i mean i want to access files on my xp machine
[07:00] <Cannoli> is that possible?
[07:00] <chao1> yes
[07:00] <flaccid> Cannoli: it can do that out of the box
[07:00] <mrksbrd> ok i'm retarded....can't find the link to post the how-to i wanted
[07:00] <Cannoli> oh sweet, so whats the program that i need to set up?
[07:01] <flaccid> Cannoli: no set up required, just goto remote places in konqueror or dolphin
[07:01] <flaccid> then click on Samba Shares
[07:02] <chao1> Connoli: yeah what flaccid said
[07:03] <Cannoli> samba shares folder is blank :(
[07:03] <Cannoli> oh wait
[07:03] <Cannoli> got it, sorry spoke too soon :D ty
[07:25] <swemark> Good morning
[07:25] <swemark> im trying to set up my ubuntu with two diffrent resolutioned screens
[07:25] <swemark> kubuntu*
[07:26] <swemark> cant seem to find a good guide on it
[07:29] <mrksbrd> flaccid: you still there?
[07:30] <flaccid> why
[07:30] <mrksbrd> just a quick ? no need to panic
[07:31] <mrksbrd> whats the command to tell which port a specific peice of hw is using....ie. ttyusb0
[07:31] <mrksbrd> tried lsusb...lspci...lshw
[07:31] <mrksbrd> nothing is telling me what i need
[07:32] <flaccid> no need to ping me, just ask the chan
[07:32] <swemark> mrksbrd, lspci should do it
[07:32] <mrksbrd> lol...ok but your my man!!!
[07:33] <mrksbrd> thta's what I thought but not showing what I need....I did it along time ago, but can't remember for the life of me
[07:34] <Cannoli> !laptop
[07:35] <Cannoli> !laptop lid
[07:35] <Cannoli> dang
[07:35] <Cannoli> anyone know how i can set up what happens when the laptop lid closes?
[07:37] <mrksbrd> Cannoli: what are u trying to do
[07:37] <Cannoli> well when i close my lid i want kubuntu to go to hybernate
[07:37] <swemark> !resolution
[07:37] <swemark> neat
[07:38] <mrksbrd> hold on
[07:38] <mrksbrd> give me a sec
[07:38] <Cannoli> kk
[07:44] <mrksbrd> Cannoli: I can't find it.....drawing a blank right now....thought it was under system settings
[07:44] <Cannoli> nvm then
[07:44] <Cannoli> i'll be fine with out thanks
[07:44] <Cannoli> thanks for looking though
[07:44] <mrksbrd> sorry.....
[07:44] <Cannoli> are there any other cool settings specifically ment for laptops?
[07:44] <Cannoli> dont be, its all good
[07:46] <mrksbrd> not sure about laptop specific, there is a decent prog called Compiz....just go under Desktop Effects
[07:50] <Cannoli> !screensaver
[07:50] <Cannoli> !screen saver
[07:52] <rabindra> what could be the reason for this error message:
[07:53] <rabindra> "Could not read network connection list /home/rabindra/.DCOP server_rabindra-desktop__0 Please check that the "dcopserver" program is running!
[07:53] <rabindra> anyone has an idea?
[07:57] <mrksbrd> rabindra: try this looks similar http://www.astahost.com/kde-starting-problem-t7887.html
[07:59] <mrksbrd> or this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-26208.html
[08:01] <rabindra> i get another error also:
[08:02] <rabindra> configuration file "/home/rabindra/.kde/share/config/konsolerc" and  "........./kdelglobals" not writable
[08:02] <mrksbrd> what is it
[08:03] <rabindra> after that the konsole appears
[08:04] <mrksbrd> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=471853
[08:05] <mrksbrd> could also be related to your other issue
[08:05] <mrksbrd> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/susenovell-60/dcopserver-error-message-254177/
[08:08] <ubuntu_> Hello ppl
[08:09] <rabindra> i don't understand i am afraid trying anything at random would further create problems
[08:09] <rabindra> it started all because my root folder was full - 100% and I came to know much later after trying so many things
[08:10] <mrksbrd> what do u mean root is 100% full
[08:10] <mrksbrd> is it a new install
[08:11] <rabindra> ya root was 100% full
[08:11] <rabindra> no i had been using it for months
[08:11] <rabindra> but unknowingly i put so many files that it was full
[08:11] <mrksbrd> never heard of that before
[08:13] <rabindra> but then i deleted some files and made some space after which these error message started. Before, even login would fail i was in a login loop now at least login succeeds but with these messages and at last konsole terminal nothing else
[08:15] <djdarkman> rabindra: you need to have at least 100 MB free in your /var
[08:15] <mrksbrd> did u back up your system by chance?
[08:16] <ubuntu_> Does Kubuntu have an installer like Ubuntu?You know,when i put in CD then should it pop-up a menu?
[08:16] <hateball> ubuntu_: Yes
[08:17] <mrksbrd> yes
[08:17] <ubuntu_> ok,thanks
[08:17] <mrksbrd> or if  u r running just ubuntu u can install KDE
[08:19] <mrksbrd> rabindra: did you attempt a system backup by chance then these errors started?
[08:19] <djdarkman> mrksbrd: that`s not a good idea, to mix gnome and KDE
[08:21] <ubuntu_> how can i uninstall Kubuntu when i can't even enter it?
[08:21] <mrksbrd> huh?
[08:21] <ubuntu_> I mean,same thing Happened with Ubuntu,it show Busybox and i only have that OS installed
[08:22] <djdarkman> ubuntu_: what error do you get?
[08:22] <ubuntu_> Busybox or something,im not sure.
[08:22] <ubuntu_> It starts to load then it show that busybox
[08:23] <djdarkman> ubuntu_: it must show an error
[08:23] <mrksbrd> dj I know it's not good to run gnome apps thru kde & vice versa but never heard that about installing KDE GUI
[08:23] <mrksbrd> i could be wrong though
[08:23] <ubuntu_> Hmm...i only see that black Busybox screen
[08:23] <djdarkman> mrksbrd: you could install KDE from the GUI
[08:23] <ubuntu_> not the error
[08:24] <mrksbrd> ubuntu: are u talking about the system just hanging & not finishing the install?
[08:24] <ubuntu_> No
[08:24] <ubuntu_> I mean it is installed allready,and it show busybox while loading
[08:25] <mrksbrd> don't know what u are talking about "busybox"
[08:25] <ubuntu_> Ok,i will explain further
[08:25] <djdarkman> mrksbrd: it`s a minimal shell that you get on a critical error, when your system fails to boot
[08:26] <ubuntu_> I installed Ubuntu using that installer while i am running WIndows,then all of a sudden,it wouldn't boot,and i could enter Ubuntu without the CD
[08:26] <mrksbrd> this is the only thing I found ....is this what u are talking about    http://www.busybox.net/about.html
[08:26] <ubuntu_> I mean i could,i cant now :(
[08:27] <mrksbrd> is it A 3RD party app?
[08:27] <ubuntu_> Busybox is not a 3rd party app i think.
[08:27] <djdarkman> ubuntu_: did you use wubi?
[08:28] <djdarkman> mrksbrd: it`s a failsafe....
[08:28] <ubuntu_> yes
[08:28] <ubuntu_> Me use Wubi
[08:28] <djdarkman> ubuntu_: and does windows work?
[08:28] <ubuntu__> does it ever?
[08:29] <ubuntu_> Haha :D ,windows works fine
[08:29] <djdarkman> ok ubuntu_ then you could try reinstalling ubuntu
[08:29] <mrksbrd> tonight is a night of errors I never heard of ....lol
[08:30] <ubuntu__> quick question...I heard that if you run KDE apps in GNome that they will start up and possibly even run slower because the KDE libs have to load. true?
[08:30] <djdarkman> ubuntu_: I can't help you much with wubi, I would encourage you to do a standard install instead of wubi, It`s much safer
[08:31] <nathan__login> so
[08:31] <mrksbrd> yes not supposed to run KDE apps in GNOME
[08:31] <djdarkman> ubuntu__: they may start slower, but don`t run slower after it's loaded completly
[08:32] <ubuntu__> that's a shame. there are a couple really cool KDE apps
[08:32] <djdarkman> mrksbrd: actualy he can, it`s just not wise to mix these two desktops
[08:32] <mrksbrd> then just run Kubuntu
[08:32] <mrksbrd> that's what I meant
[08:32] <ubuntu__> but I don't like KDE
[08:33] <mrksbrd> getting tired words are not flowing the right way now ....lol
[08:33] <ubuntu__> digikam is actually really cool
[08:33] <djdarkman> ubuntu__: you can run them in GNOME, and it`s not likely that you will expriance
[08:33] <djdarkman> problems with it
[08:33] <mrksbrd> it's the same base system
[08:34] <mrksbrd> Ubuntu running GNOME is kinda generic compared to KDE
[08:34] <ubuntu__> another question...today I was downloading a couple torrents and while downloading, my browser wouldn't load ANYTHING on the web. when I paused the torrents, the browser worked fine. anyone ever had that happen?
[08:35] <djdarkman> ubuntu__: if you have a GNOME desktop and want a few KDE apps, go ahead, you can do this without a problem
[08:35] <djdarkman> ubuntu__: browser?
[08:35] <ubuntu__> firefox
[08:35] <djdarkman> and you have Ubuntu 8.04?
[08:35] <ubuntu__> yep
[08:36] <mrksbrd> what's your connection speed?+
[08:36] <djdarkman> ubuntu__: how much is you bandwidth?
[08:36] <ubuntu__> 4mbps
[08:36] <djdarkman> and how fast did you download ubuntu__?
[08:36] <mrksbrd> that's not the prob then
[08:37] <illmortal1> Hey guys, how do I change my username  prior to using  /msg nickserv identify password ?
[08:37] <djdarkman> illmortal1: /nick foobar
[08:37] <mrksbrd>  do /nick <new nick>
[08:37] <illmortal1> thanks
[08:38] <ubuntu__> I don't remember, really. I downloaded eight or nine distros tonight pretty quickly, but I downloaded the Ubuntu DVD a couple weeks ago. maybe half an hour, I don't know. maybe an hour.
[08:38] <illmortal1> How come it won't let me use illmortal as my nick and then let me identify? o.o;
[08:39] <mrksbrd> maybe already assigned
[08:39] <djdarkman> ubuntu__: you see if you download too fast than you have no speed left for browsing, there are two solutions: 1) go for a coffe while you download 2) limit the torrent download speed
[08:39] <ubuntu__> ah, I didn't know that
[08:39] <illmortal1> yes.. to me. lol so how do make freenode realize that I am the owner of that username? :X
[08:39] <ubuntu__> that makes sense
[08:39] <ubuntu__> duh
[08:40] <mrksbrd> do /nickserv <password>
[08:40] <illmortal1> :p
[08:40] <ubuntu__> alternatively, I could go to the WOW headquarters and tell them if they don't give me unlimited download speed, I am gonna rough them up. then I can have my cake and eat it too.
[08:40] <ubuntu__> I love cake
[08:40] <ubuntu__> and I love eating cake
[08:41] <illmortal1> command doesn't work either.
[08:41] <mrksbrd> u using Konversation?
[08:41] <illmortal1> -.- shitty kopete.
[08:42] <illmortal1> I'm about to get rid of it. But I like the fact that it has, "jabber"
[08:42] <illmortal1> I use that at work.
[08:43] <mrksbrd> hmmm....didn't think Kopete was for IRC, just thought it was for IM
[08:43] <illmortal1> Is there no way to let nickserv know that I'm illmortal with the correct password?
[08:43] <mrksbrd> don't know thru Kopete
[08:43] <djdarkman> illmortal1: you need to register
[08:43] <illmortal1>  /msg nickserv identify     <password>  used to work.
[08:43] <mrksbrd> Konversation is easy (automated)
[08:44] <illmortal1> djdarkman, that's the problem.... my username is illmortal and I can't change my nick to that... instead I'm stuck using illmortal1.
[08:44] <mrksbrd> that's it ....sorry left out a few things....oooppppssss.better more tired than I thought
[08:44] <mrksbrd> lol
[08:44] <SitUbuntuSit> illmortal1, it still does
[08:45] <illmortal1> hm.. maybe kopete doesn't allow you?
[08:45] <SitUbuntuSit> not sure, perhaps
[08:45]  * mrksbrd better stop giving advise tonight
[08:46] <illmortal1> when i try: /nick illmortal I get a pop up: The nickname illmortal is already in use
[08:47] <mrksbrd> won't allow you to even use it until u supply a password?
[08:47] <SitUbuntuSit> what happens when you type: "msg/ nickserv identify <password>"
[08:47] <SitUbuntuSit> without quotes
[08:48] <illmortal1> lol claims that illmortal1 isn't registered.
[08:48] <illmortal1> -.-
[08:48] <Cannoli> how can i change what starts when i loadup kubuntu? such as programs
[08:48] <illmortal1> do i need to use <  >
[08:48] <SitUbuntuSit> ah, because you logged in with illmortal1
[08:48] <mrksbrd> it won't if your using the '1' @ the end
[08:49] <illmortal1> yes because when I attempted to log in with the username, "illmortal" it said it was already in use and that I must use a different nick name.
[08:49] <mrksbrd> try ghost'ing the nick
[08:49] <illmortal1> ghosting?
[08:50] <ScorpKing> Cannoli: to start apps when you log in link them in ~/.kde/Autostart .Also check in kcontrol how your session management is set up. if it's save previous session all apps that was running will start again
[08:50] <SitUbuntuSit> type /msg nickserv help -- ghost is a command to reclaim a name
[08:50] <mrksbrd> ..../msg nickserv ghost <username>
[08:50] <illmortal1> i see
[08:50] <mrksbrd> think that's the command
[08:50] <illmortal1> let me try, brb
[08:50] <Cannoli> oh ok
[08:53] <mrksbrd> SitUbuntuSit: maybe u can help me with something.....thought there was a command to list HW using a specific location (ie...ttyusb0)...tried lspci, lshw, & lsusb, but nothing is working
[08:53] <illmortal1> Crap... it doesn't understand commands. It opened up a msg window to nickserv and it only puts my message into the IM
[08:53] <mrksbrd> would say use Konversation then
[08:55] <illmortal1> Yeah I'm gonna have to.
[08:55] <illmortal1> well.. I'll be right back :p
[08:57] <mrksbrd> Sit....any ideas?
[08:58] <illmortal_> :p
[08:59] <mrksbrd> there ya go
[08:59] <illmortal_> ack lol it added the _ instead of 1 now lol
[08:59] <illmortal_> ok so now I need to use the ghost command?
[09:00] <mrksbrd> try it
[09:00] <illmortal_> [Notice] -NickServ- illmortal is not a registered nickname.
[09:00] <mrksbrd> sure u registered it thru nickserv???
[09:00] <Cannoli> sorry to be such a bother but i have one more question
[09:00] <Cannoli> when i press one of the keys on the top of my laptop, i get an erro
[09:01] <illmortal_> but then... when I choose illmortal from the little drop down menu, I get this error: [Nick] Nickname already in use, try a different one.
[09:01] <Cannoli> tthen the keys on the top of my laptop dont work, any suggestions?
[09:01] <illmortal_> mrksbrd, I'm positive... like nearly a year ago.
[09:01] <mrksbrd> lol....ok
[09:01] <illmortal_> my PS3 is illriginal and my PC is illmortal. lol
[09:01] <Cannoli> illmortal_: type /nickserv ghost illmortal PASSWORD
[09:02] <illmortal_> k
[09:02] <mrksbrd> forgot /msg
[09:02] <Cannoli> do u know wht ur nickserv passworkd is?
[09:02] <Cannoli> oops sorry
[09:02] <illmortal_> lol yep :p
[09:02] <Cannoli> illmortal_: type /ns ghost illmortal PASSWORD
[09:02] <illmortal_> lol: [Notice] -NickServ- illmortal is not a registered nickname.
[09:03] <Cannoli> hmm
[09:03] <Cannoli> just wait till it quits then register it
[09:03] <Cannoli> it'll quit automatically in a bit after a connection error
[09:03] <illmortal_> wait til what quits, exactly?
[09:03] <illmortal_> wait.. so illmortal is some how connected right now? o.o;
[09:03] <mrksbrd> just a dumb ? have u sed it lately
[09:03] <Cannoli> well technically the username illmortal is in use, so the server thinks there is still a person connected behind that nickname,
[09:04] <mrksbrd> but if he ghost's it it should release it
[09:04] <Cannoli> even though uve changed to a diff nick, so when the server actually looks for a connection behind the nick it will see there is none and will release the nick
[09:04] <illmortal_> that's nearly impossible o.o I haven't logged into IRC with my PC (illmortal) in many many months lol
[09:04] <Cannoli> mrksbrd: thts only if his nick is registered by ns
[09:04] <mrksbrd> wonder if i expired then
[09:04] <Cannoli> its not even registered thats the thign
[09:05] <mrksbrd> may have to re-register it
[09:05] <Cannoli> yea maybe
[09:05] <Cannoli> wht happens when u type /nick illmortal
[09:05] <Cannoli> ?
[09:05] <illmortal_> [Nick] Nickname already in use, try a different one.
[09:06] <Cannoli> oic
[09:06] <mrksbrd> which prog u signed under now Kopete or Konversation?
[09:06] <illmortal_> lol
[09:06] <Cannoli> well i think someone has ur nick then XD
[09:06] <illmortal_> when i first got the nick?
[09:06] <illmortal_> I used X Chat... when I used to run Ubuntu
[09:07] <illmortal_> OMFG
[09:07] <illmortal_> ROFLMAO I know why!
[09:07] <illmortal_> I'm such a pot head.
[09:07] <mrksbrd> shouldn't matter what IRC prog u registered it with
[09:08] <illmortal_> At work I use the program, "jabber" which gives me IRC capability and I have illmortal logged in right now.
[09:08] <illmortal_>  /join #ps3-dev
[09:08] <illmortal_> ack
[09:08]  * mrksbrd smashes illmortal w/ a hammer
[09:08] <illmortal_> LOL
[09:08] <mrksbrd> :P
[09:09] <Cannoli> mrksbrd: can u help me with my keyboard problem. i have a laptop and the quick keys for volume and stuff work, but when i hit the dvd key at the top, i get an error and none of the quick keys work. any suggestions?
[09:09] <illmortal_> i messaged myself and it said I was away and it showed the server I was on lol
[09:09] <lee_> hi any one now how to set up apache 2 for ubuntu
[09:09] <illmortal_> sorry guys :X
[09:09] <mrksbrd> no prob
[09:10] <Cannoli> !mouse sensitivity
[09:10] <mrksbrd> cannoli: may have to re-assign shortcuts, may be conflicting with one another
[09:10] <Cannoli> !mouse
[09:10] <Cannoli> oh i see, how do i do that?
[09:10] <mrksbrd> let me find it
[09:11] <mrksbrd> (no promises the way my brain is functioning right now)   :-P
[09:11] <Cannoli> lmao s'all good, i still appreciate all the help
[09:12] <lee_> kan some one tell me were to get a post to install and setup apache
[09:12] <mrksbrd> lee: google it would be the easiest
[09:14] <lee_> try to but cant get a proper answer out of it
[09:15] <mrksbrd> Cannoli: try looking under "system settings" ....think it is in there
[09:15] <mrksbrd> lee: hold on
[09:15] <lee_> ok
[09:15] <Cannoli> kk
[09:16] <illmortal_> hm... I forget how to set, "auto-join" for each channel :X
[09:16] <mrksbrd> lee: did u try this http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/
[09:17] <lee_> will have a look
[09:17] <mrksbrd> ill...under which prog?
[09:17] <lee_> will have a look thx
[09:18] <mrksbrd> k
[09:18] <illmortal_> im on konversation.
[09:18] <mrksbrd> brb....potty break
[09:19] <illmortal_> ack and repository only shows FireFox3... horrible ><
[09:20] <nathan_> i need help with beryl ,i just can't install it
[09:21] <mrksbrd> ok back
[09:22] <mu3en> !X11
[09:22] <mu3en> can anyone point me to the right channel for X11 questions (inappropriate ioctl)
[09:24] <mrksbrd> illmortal_: go under "file"  server list.....edit
[09:26] <illmortal_> awesome!
[09:26] <illmortal_> thanks a lot mrksbrd :D
[09:26] <mrksbrd> np
[09:27] <mrksbrd> @ least I was good for something tonight....lol
[09:27] <Howite> hello
[09:27] <mrksbrd> hello
[09:28] <Howite> how can I turn off the auto-restore of all windows those was opened in previous session and restored after reboot?
[09:28]  * mrksbrd brain hurts
[09:28] <Howite> -_-" sorry
[09:28] <mrksbrd> lol...not because of u
[09:29] <illmortal_> LOL
[09:29] <mrksbrd> you either ill...just extremely tired & still have 2 more hrs of work
[09:30] <mrksbrd> Howite: not sure of a way other than to make sure to shut them down b4 closing
[09:30] <Howite> that's not a way
[09:30] <Howite> :(
[09:31] <mrksbrd> lol...hold on
[09:31] <illmortal_> man you're lucky I gotta go to bed... lol I have to configure so much :X
[09:32] <illmortal_> though one thing I might need help with before I go to bed, but I'll wait my turn. It's in regards to installing Firefox 2 instead of 3 :X
[09:32] <mrksbrd> must be nice
[09:32] <mrksbrd> sudo apt install firefox 2 or go thru adept manager
[09:33] <mrksbrd> if u just do firefox it installs v3
[09:33] <illmortal_> Yeah I gotta specify 2.0*
[09:33] <mrksbrd> Howite: any particular prog?
[09:33] <mrksbrd> yea
[09:34] <Howite> erm?
[09:34] <mrksbrd> or is it anything u leave open u want to disable
[09:36] <Cannoli> anyone know how i can get the ksynaptics package?
[09:36] <Cannoli> i tried looking in adept manager and add and remove files but no luck
[09:37] <mrksbrd> just called synaptics
[09:37] <Cannoli> kk
[09:49] <mrksbrd> signing off..... see ya's tonight
[09:55] <concernedcitizen> is there anyway to upgrade to kde 4.1?
[09:57] <SmokeEater85911> yo
[09:57] <SmokeEater85911> anybody here?
[09:58] <dwidmann_> concernedcitizen: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1
[09:58] <dwidmann_> SmokeEater85911: I'm somewhat here :)
[09:59] <SmokeEater85911> hey dwidmann do you know how to install a dock?
[09:59] <SmokeEater85911> like stardock or something
[10:00] <dwidmann_> SmokeEater85911: I'm not familiar with stardock, umm, can you describe it?
[10:00] <SmokeEater85911> its like a menu/icon system usually sits at the bottom of your screen
[10:01] <SmokeEater85911> when you roll your mouse over the icons they usually have some neat effect to them
[10:01] <dwidmann_> Hmm, maybe something like kooldock?
[10:01] <SmokeEater85911> http://www.stardock.com/products/ObjectDock/
[10:03] <dwidmann_> SmokeEater85911: yeah, I'd say kooldock would be right on the money, install the package :)
[10:04] <SmokeEater85911> hrm, ill check it out
[10:04] <SmokeEater85911> thanks
[10:04] <SmokeEater85911> oh and 1 more thing. do you know how to run a script on startup? I thought I had it down right but it doesnt work
[10:05] <SmokeEater85911> i added it to the init.d file, and all that jazz but it just doesnt run it or something
[10:07] <dwidmann_> SmokeEater85911: copy the script to /etc/init.d/, and run update-rc.d defaults scriptname(not the path, just the name, seeing as it has to be in that directory)
[10:07] <SmokeEater85911> i did all that
[10:07] <dwidmann_> SmokeEater85911: be sure it has the appropriate stuffs at the top of the file (ie: #!/bin/sh) and it's marked executable
[10:08] <SmokeEater85911> lemme past what the script says
[10:09] <SmokeEater85911> !pastebin
[10:10] <SmokeEater85911> http://paste.ubuntu.com/38744/plain/
[10:10] <SmokeEater85911> now if i click the .sh file, then it works but its not running it at startup.. maybe It needs to run at login?
[10:10] <dwidmann_> SmokeEater85911: better yet, http://ubuntu.pastebin.us/?show=d45d48be5 -- I pastebinned a pastebinning script with a pastebinning script :)
[10:11] <mzolisi> Anyone know what the 'Open Dialog' in Kate is?
[10:12] <SmokeEater85911> k so kooldock is installed.. now what lol
[10:12] <dwidmann_> SmokeEater85911: xmodmap requires X to be running before you run it, you should run that script on login instead of on startup.
[10:12] <SmokeEater85911> k how do I change it to run on login?
[10:12] <dwidmann_> SmokeEater85911: create a file, call it .xmodmaprc, it goes in your home directory, yes the file name will start with a dot.
[10:13] <SmokeEater85911> same content though?
[10:13] <dwidmann_> no
[10:13] <dwidmann_> Only this part: "keycode 115 = Menu"
[10:14] <SmokeEater85911> weird I created the file and its not showing up
[10:14] <dwidmann_> Now, in your ~/.kde/Autostart directory, create a file, lets call it "runxmodmap.sh", in it put this: #!/bin/sh<ENTER>xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc
[10:15] <dwidmann_> SmokeEater85911: files that start with a dot are hidden.
[10:15] <dwidmann_> SmokeEater85911: which is why you don't see dozens of config files when you pull up your home folder.
[10:15] <SmokeEater85911> gotcha
[10:16] <dwidmann_> Mark the script file in the autostart folder executable so it will work
[10:16] <SmokeEater85911> wheres the kde folder?
[10:17] <dwidmann_> ~ = home folder (usually /home/username)
[10:17] <SmokeEater85911> found it
[10:19] <SmokeEater85911> k im at the part where you said mark script file as executable
[10:20] <SmokeEater85911> and done
[10:20] <profesor_> hola a todo el mundo
[10:20] <SmokeEater85911> so now it should work?
[10:20] <dwidmann_> SmokeEater85911: well, log out, log back in, and see if the button works
[10:20] <SmokeEater85911> brb
[10:21] <mu3en> !spanish | profesor
[10:22] <SmokeEater85911> negative
[10:24] <SmokeEater85911> hmm
[10:24] <SmokeEater85911> not a big deal right now.. so now that this kooldock is installed, how do I use it? lol
[10:25] <SmokeEater85911> oh, there it is
[10:26] <dwidmann_> SmokeEater85911: so that script didn't run, hm, one sec then
[10:27] <SmokeEater85911> nope
[10:27] <dwidmann_> SmokeEater85911: in that case move it to /usr/local/bin and create a launcher for it
[10:27] <SmokeEater85911> one sec, Im messing with the dock lol
[10:27] <dwidmann_> SmokeEater85911: ie: right click create -> launcher
[10:27] <dwidmann_> erm, link to application
[10:27] <dwidmann_> same thing
[10:27] <dwidmann_> can do that on the desktop or in konqueror
[10:28] <SmokeEater85911> k so move it?
[10:28] <dwidmann_> SmokeEater85911: when doing that, tell it to run it in a terminal, in the advanced options on the third tab
[10:29] <dwidmann_> Then move the launcher to ~/.kde/Autostart and I guarantee that will work :)
[10:29] <SmokeEater85911> wait which one do you want me to move?
[10:29] <dwidmann_> move the script from ~/.kde/Autostart to somewhere else like /usr/local/bin (or wherever you want it)
[10:29] <SmokeEater85911> k
[10:31] <SmokeEater85911> k i moved it to Documents
[10:33] <dwidmann_> SmokeEater85911: now go to the desktop, right click, Create new -> Link to Application
[10:34] <dwidmann_> call it something like xmodmap, on the third tab, click browse, point it at the script file. click advanced options, set it to run in terminal
[10:34] <SmokeEater85911> k
[10:34] <SmokeEater85911> done
[10:35] <dwidmann_> SmokeEater85911: okay, move that new launcher thing to ~/.kde/Autostart
[10:35] <SmokeEater85911> k done
[10:36] <SmokeEater85911> now log out and back in for test?
[10:36] <dwidmann_> sure
[10:36] <SmokeEater85911> brb
[10:38] <SmokeEater85911> negative
[10:38] <SmokeEater85911> lol
[10:38] <dwidmann_> :s then you must have done someting wrong
[10:38] <SmokeEater85911> screw it im too tired to mess with it tonite more
[10:38] <dwidmann_> somewhere or another
[10:39] <SmokeEater85911> i think the command is wrong
[10:39] <dwidmann_> which command?
[10:39] <SmokeEater85911> nowhere in the script should it say *xmodmap*?
[10:39] <dwidmann_> Keep in mind of course that typos and capitolization errors aren't tolerated at all
[10:40] <dwidmann_> The script should read like this
[10:40] <dwidmann_> #!/bin/sh
[10:40] <dwidmann_> xmodmap ~/.xmodmaprc
[10:40] <SmokeEater85911> ah
[10:40] <SmokeEater85911> thats probably it
[10:40] <SmokeEater85911> one sec
[10:42] <SmokeEater85911> the only thing was there was a space before the #!/bin/sh
[10:42] <SmokeEater85911> would that do anything?
[10:42] <dwidmann_> Probably.
[10:42] <SmokeEater85911> k one sec
[10:44] <SmokeEater85911> meh i give up for now..
[10:44] <SmokeEater85911> im going to bed.
[10:44] <SmokeEater85911> nite
[10:44] <SmokeEater85911> thanks anyway
[10:57] <renato__> hi, I need some help to invstigate whether something went wrong in one server "locally" or whether somebody managed to break in and mess it up
[11:11] <thefish> renato__: what was the symptom?
[11:13] <renato__> well, I cannot log in anymore, I managed to have a look at the server by booting from a cd (the system does not boot anymore for priviledges problems) I see  my own homedir has different owner and group, the auth log stops 10 days ago....
[11:15] <renato__> the system is a mail server and hosts a few web sites, althought at the moment they were just showing the apache "it works" line
[11:17] <ale22944> ﻿Hi all! Just upgraded from Gusty to Hardy ang now have a big problem with wireless networking. My card is an Intel 3945 ABG, find networks but doesn't connect! Any idea? Tnx
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> ale22944: let me websearch, nice info
[11:18] <ale22944> ﻿ActionParsnip: Hi, googling around gives tons of results but no one is working at the moment!
[11:19] <Alex135> ale22944: when you say upgrade did you reinstall or just do the update
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> ale22944: http://linuxtechie.wordpress.com/2008/04/24/making-intel-wireless-3945abg-work-better-on-ubuntu-hardy/
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> might help some
[11:22] <ActionParsnip> ale22944: what driver youo using?
[11:22] <Alex135> ale22944: did you reinstall and use hardy CD or did you just do the update.... going to hardy through the update manager can cause problems.
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> uprading is a pain in the ass, easier to reinstall then restore data from backup imho
[11:23] <renato__> no help available?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> renato__: sup?
[11:24] <ale22944> sorry had a problem with connection, i've upgraded the first tim and then formatted and reinstalled from live cd
[11:24] <ale22944> same result
[11:24] <Alex135> hmmm
[11:25] <renato__> ActionParsnip: sup = ?
[11:25] <Alex135> cuz i know that updateing from the manager installes newer versions of the network managers but they arn't autoconfigured sine that is only done at first boot
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> renato__: sup == wassup == whats up == hi
[11:25] <Alex135> O.o
[11:26] <Alex135> ActionParsnip: your giving me a headache :P
[11:26] <ale22944> guys that's a real big trouble for me..it's really hard to find around a cable to connect!! =(
[11:26] <renato__> I have a server which I believe it has been broken into
[11:26] <renato__>  I cannot log in anymore, I managed to have a look at the server by booting from a cd (the system does not boot anymore for priviledges problems) I see  my own homedir has different owner and group, the auth log stops 10 days ago....
[11:27] <renato__> it was an ubuntu 8.04 based server
[11:27] <_spm_Draget> 'sudo update-rd.d nis boot' does not work, what am I doing wrong?
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> renato__: are you logging in as root by any chance?
[11:27] <Alex135> ale22944: what i would do is check back here later on during the day (say 4 hours from now or so) since nobody right now knows how to fix your problem
[11:27] <renato__> no, I had my own login
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> renato__: good
[11:27] <renato__> I could access the server again because it would not bood, I believe some of the files in the server got new owner, grouup
[11:27] <ale22944> Alex135: Thanks a lot alex! I'll be back in 4 hours =)
[11:28] <renato__> for example, my own homedir is now owned by 1001:1001
[11:28] <Alex135> 4-8 hours from now will give you some more results :)
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> renato__: id look at the layout of the password files for linux and modify them in the live environment so you can log in, then set you passwords properly and encrypt them
[11:28] <ale22944> k
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> renato__: then evaluate the situation as well as your security
[11:29] <Alex135> ale22944: in the mean time what you can do is try and research the problem.
[11:29] <renato__> the system does not bot anymore, I have to access the system by booting from a live cd
[11:29] <ale22944> ﻿Alex135: if you like send me an e-mail: tinel@live.it
[11:29] <ale22944> i'm searching
[11:29] <renato__> my problem is understanding what coused the security failure.
[11:30] <Alex135> k... i might
[11:30] <renato__> I had followed the howtoforge : perfect server
[11:30]  * Alex135 adds ale22944's email adress to his contacts list
[11:30] <renato__> and I would have thought my passwords were encrypted already
[11:31] <dwidmann_> speaking of security ... mentioning your email in plain text in a publicly logged irc channel probably isn't such a hot idea.
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> renato__: no such thing
[11:31] <renato__> I see the ownership has changed for all directory trees of my websites and for the two users
[11:31] <renato__> no such thing in relation to what?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> renato__: they are but have been compromised, you can use plaintext passwords to get in
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> renato__: in computing, nothing is perfect
[11:32] <renato__> I apreciate that, just I cannot believe people remaster theyr servers once a week, so there must be a way to limit the damage
[11:33] <renato__> I am told not that init cannot execure /bin/sh for rc default, permission denied. Rc-default run as what user?
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> renato__: you need to use your livecd to setup plain text passwords, then login and do a lot of chowning
[11:35] <renato__> how do I set up plaintext password? by manually editing /etc/passwd?
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> websearching (I wish i had my lpi book :()
[11:40] <renato__> uhmm... whatgood setting up plain passwd would do to me if the system does not complete boostrap?
[11:41] <ActionParsnip> renato__: hmm, then id reinstall the server and restore data / config from nightly backup
[11:43] <ActionParsnip> renato__: or you could chown in livecd env but im not sure which user to give it
[11:43] <renato__> the sequence in rc-default is executed under what user?
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> renato__: no idea dude sorry
[11:44] <renato__> because the innit procedure hangs telling  it could not execure /bin/sh, permission denied
[11:45] <renato__> I can also reinstall it, not somuch of a problem, my doubt is how to keep this from happening again.
[11:46] <renato__> on a different topic, what si the difference between kubuntu "standard" and kubuntu server?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> renato__: very little as far as ive seen, theres not much in the *buntu nonesense as all apps can be installed on the other systems
[11:47] <renato__> do you know if in the server there is some particoular deamon that it is worth it having?
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> renato__: if it does you can install it on any of the other buntus you want
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> renato__: have you installed server to use as a regular desktop?
[11:49] <renato__> no, this was ment to be a mail and web and application server (sugarcrm)
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> renato__: did you install the LAMP server?
[11:52] <renato__> no, I just had installed a standard kubuntu desktop and added afterwards  postfix myswl and apache (among the others)
[11:52] <renato__> mysql
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> renato__: all good stff
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> lamp == linux asp mysql php afaik
[11:54] <renato__> if I have to think what security breached I may have created, I had to change ownership to one of the web sites created because otherwise I could not execute sugarcrm installation
[11:55] <renato__> so I changed that directory ownership to www.data:www-data if I remember
[11:55] <renato__> and I believe the login for the mail was still plain text
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> try it
[11:56] <renato__> try what?
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> renato__: the chown, backup the files first with cp
[11:59] <leon> hi, there
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> hi leon
[12:00] <renato__> I could try, but chown of what?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> renato__: its chown to
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> renato__: chown changes ownersip, try the bootstrap files
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> renato__: its probably gonna be quicker to reinstall dude, looks like a lot of stuff has gone on
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> renato__: but thats my suggestion
[12:02] <renato__> I understand, my whastion was what do I use as a target of chown? root:root? and do I apply that (or whatever) to what files?
[12:03] <ActionParsnip> renato__: i dont know, id just try various owners to see how far you can get in
[12:03] <renato__> let me see  who owns /bin/sh now
[12:08] <thefish> renato__: if you are booted on a livecd and then mounting the server disk, the owner will be incorrect - you will need to compare uids in /etc/passwd
[12:09] <renato__> thefish, ok,
[12:09] <renato__> I am waiting for the livecdto boot
[12:09] <thefish> you can try ls with -n
[12:09] <thefish> that will show the numeric id
[12:09] <renato__> ok
[12:09] <thefish> it should be 0 0 (root)
[12:09] <thefish> but as ActionParsnip says, it seems a reinstall would be a better way to go
[12:10] <renato__> I do not mind reinstalling, as I said, but I would love to do some root couse analisys
[12:10] <renato__> cause
[12:10] <renato__> analysis
[12:10] <renato__> damn it ! :)
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> renato__: then make an iso of the drive and back it up, then you can mount once you have a good system and analyse
[12:11] <renato__> good Idea, how     can I do that?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> renato__: man makeisofs
[12:13] <renato__> ok
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> renato__: or use dd
[12:22] <renato__> "/bin/sh" is already   1 0 0
[12:24] <thefish> renato__: you say that other directories are not owned by your user any more, maybe ls -n those and then compare the uids to the ones in the servers /etc/passwd (not the livecd /etc/passwd!)
[12:24] <renato__> I am on it
[12:26] <renato__> strange
[12:26] <renato__> examplw
[12:26] <renato__> example
[12:28] <renato__> I checked out my hoe dir, and the owner is correct, it   wasn't mapped when I did the ls -l becasue, of course I am booting from the live cd and there is not such user there
[12:28] <renato__> so I have to backstep on my assumption, it is not a given that ownership of files/dir has changed
[12:29] <renato__> never the less I could not remotely login (via ssh, I could via ftp) and the system does not reboot (permission denied in executing /bin/sh)
[12:39] <renato__> something interesting
[12:40] <renato__> "/bin/sh"  is a read only file and it is not executable
[12:40] <renato__> that would definetly prevent the system from booting
[12:50] <flaccid> renato__: chmod +x /bin/sh ?
[12:51] <flaccid> its usually lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2008-03-05 17:58 /bin/sh -> dash
[12:51] <flaccid> -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 79988 2008-03-12 22:22 /bin/dash
[12:55] <renato__> flaccid, I know the chmod, my point is that somebody must have been able to enter my system and change the permission to sh (and now I found out also bash)
[12:56] <flaccid> renato__: yea well something or someone has changed it. who or what is a mystery
[12:57] <renato__> well  that system is supposed to be used by me and my wife and she uses just as a mil server and she does not distinguish a linux server from a toaster
[12:57] <flaccid> cool
[12:57] <renato__> not really, this means somebody did manage to break in
[12:57] <renato__> and gain root password
[12:58] <flaccid> you have no proof of that and the default user has the ability
[12:58] <renato__> the ownership of bash is root:root
[12:59] <flaccid> yep
[12:59] <renato__> so, the only user who can do that is root
[12:59] <renato__> and I am alagedly the only person who knows the root password
[13:00] <flaccid> if you have sudo (which the default user has out of the box), you have access to root
[13:00] <renato__> good point, does that translate to just any user I create?
[13:01] <flaccid> negative
[13:01] <renato__> ok, bbq time in Spain, at least I made a step in the right direction, tx for your helpo
[13:02] <flaccid> np
[13:05] <jirik> Hi. How to connect new USB HDD (WD 250 GB), when I do not see it via sudo fdisk -l? I have restarted it with connected USB cabel. I suppose there is no partition.
[13:06] <flaccid> if its not in fdisk then check dmesg for errors
[13:09] <jirik> flaccid: There is something about "usbcore: registered new interface driver hci_usb"
[13:10] <kuga__> dobar dan svima
[13:10] <flaccid> thats good newsbut there should be quite a few messages
[13:11] <jirik> flaccid: This is my dmesg | grep usb output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/38781/
[13:12] <jirik> flaccid: interresting, I disconnected it and connected again and now it is visible ... :)
[13:13] <flaccid> col
[13:13] <flaccid> cool
[13:18] <jirik> flaccid: thanks for your compliancy, it works.
[13:21] <flaccid> mad
[13:31] <jah> hi
[13:36] <Cripps> I was at work yesterday, listening to some tunes on Amarok, and this morning when I came in and fired up amarok and hit play, I got "Audio output unavailable; the device is busy."  ... I tried running "/etc/init.d/alasa-utils restart" and I continue to get the same message. Firefox has been restarted since then, so I know that it's not hogging the sound server. Any ideas as to how I can find the culprit and/or prevent this from happening?
[13:37] <baudthief> I installed Kubuntu on my centrino laptop last night, however everytime I move to standby mode or hibernate, then come back, my wireless doesnt work anymore
[13:37] <baudthief> any ideas?
[13:38] <baudthief> annoying to have to reboot after waking up everytime
[13:38] <Cripps> baudthief, remove the wireless module before sleeping, and relaod it when you wake up.
[13:38] <Cripps> baudthief, wireless and sleep still don't play well together.
[13:39] <baudthief> Cripps: can that be done on-the-fly using a script of some sort?
[13:39] <concernedcitizen> i can't hibernate on my kubuntu
[13:40] <concernedcitizen> it will give some kind of video error
[13:40] <concernedcitizen> and the annoying  pc speakers beeps
[13:40] <Cripps> baudthief, yes, it can, but I'm not sure exactly how to add hooks to the sleep/wake up scripts. A better place to ask might be in #ubuntu, there's more traffic there and it's not a kubuntu-specific problem :)
[13:40] <concernedcitizen> and then restarts
[13:40] <Cripps> concernedcitizen, you can ask in #ubuntu too :)
[13:40] <baudthief> Cripps: thanks, I just googled and believe I found something that does what you mentioned
[13:41] <Cripps> baudthief, no problem. I used to have the same problem on my laptop ... but I do everything manually because I'm a masochist like that ;)
[13:44] <baudthief> Cripps: haha, well in truth I'd have no idea how to manually stop the network service on linux. The article I found just mentions editing acpi-suport (/etc/default/) and adding 'networking' to STOP_SERVICES
[13:44] <baudthief> just about to test it :P If I dont return, my machine probably caught fire
[13:44] <xis0x> hey,  somebody know how to fix "Broken Translation" in Dolphin while mounting a Partitoin ?
[13:44] <Cripps> baudthief, I just did "pkill wpa_supplicant;rmmod iwl3945;"  ;)
[13:45] <baudthief> Cripps: and to restart, did you use insmod?
[13:45] <Cripps> baudthief, nah, I used "modprobe iwl3945"
[13:45] <baudthief> hooray I suck :P
[13:45] <Cripps> that only removes and reinserts the wireless module, it doesn't kill networking
[13:45] <Cripps> lol.
[13:46] <Cripps> the modprobe command is nice because it automatically calculates module dependencies
[13:46] <Cripps> with insmod you have to do it all manually.
[13:46] <baudthief> might be handy to jot that down then heh, saved to ~/Cripps.txt :P
[13:46] <Cripps> if you wanted to stop your networking service, though, you'd do "/etc/init.d/networking stop"
[13:46] <Cripps> lol :)
[13:47] <Cripps> baudthief, I like to write down handy pieces of information :D
[13:47] <baudthief> Cripps: I'm lazy, I usually just save chunks of logs... or just keep the entire log and sort later lol
[13:48] <Cripps> lazy is not bad : laziness is the mother of invention ;)
[13:49] <baudthief> I'm about to test that theory lol
[13:49] <baudthief> brb
[13:49] <xis0x> hey,  somebody know how to fix "Broken Translation" in Dolphin while mounting a Partitoin ?
[13:51] <word> xis0x: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-653962.html not sure if it's still relavent...i just googled it and thats what came up :-/
[13:51] <xis0x> Yea i googled too and found this, but it won t help me.
[13:52] <xis0x> Ive 8.04 Hardy an German Translation
[13:57] <Nyle> !ping
[13:57] <bruger> Any body here
[13:57] <Nyle> maybe
[13:57] <Rene> Nyle:  My system is breakin down
[13:57] <Rene> how to update the system
[13:57] <Nyle> Rene, are you comfortable on the command line/
[13:58] <ReneDK> yeah .. is my friend is have a problems
[13:58] <ReneDK> i only know debian ..
[13:58] <ReneDK> can is use apt-get update
[13:58] <Nyle> Open up konsole, and type `sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude full-upgrade`
[13:58] <ReneDK> on this system :)
[13:58] <Nyle> without `
[13:58] <ReneDK> Ahh nice
[13:58] <ReneDK> just run this command
[13:58] <Nyle> that is correct
[13:59] <Nyle> it will ask for password, type in your password
[13:59] <Nyle> and it will do the magic
[13:59] <word> xis0x: the solution might still be applicable even though it's a diff. version of (k)ubuntu
[13:59] <Nyle> word, !
[13:59] <Nyle> hi
[13:59] <Nyle> long time no see
[13:59] <word> Nyle: !
[13:59] <word> sure ;p
[13:59] <Nyle> how are you doing buddy?
[13:59] <word> gravy
[13:59] <word> you?
[14:00] <Nyle> just woke up
[14:00] <Nyle> trying to get some wakenbake goin on befor eI go to work
[14:00] <Nyle> ;) if ya know what I mean
[14:00] <word> my little brother just woke up, i haven't slept yet :-/
[14:00] <xis0x> apt-get ftw :/
[14:00] <word> lol ;p
[14:00] <Nyle> aptitude is better at almost everything
[14:00] <Nyle> especially at dependency resolution
[14:00] <word> aptitude doesn't have super-cow powers i dont think
[14:01] <Nyle> aptitude is generally better
[14:01] <Nyle> for various obvious reasons
[14:01] <Nyle> (given one reads/skims the documentation of both apt-get and aptitude)
[14:01] <Nyle> (it becomes fairly obvious)
[14:03] <word> Nyle: run this command - apt-get --help | grep "Cow Powers" && aptitude --help | grep "Cow Powers"
[14:03] <Nyle> heh
[14:03] <word> :P
[14:06] <Cripps> this beats it though: apt-get moo
[14:21] <dwidmann> Cripps: aptitude moo; aptitude moo -v; aptitude moo -vv; aptitude moo -vvv; aptitude moo -vvvv; aptitude moo -vvvvv
[14:23] <Cripps> What is it?  It's an elephant being eaten by a snake, of course.
[14:23] <florian_> Hi! I have a hercules dualpix 2 webcam. Is it possible to use this cam with kubuntu? lsusb says "ID 06f8:3003 Guillemot Corp."
[14:24] <dwidmann> Cripps: that is of course the logical answer :)
[14:26] <lello> ciao
[14:49] <kayess> I upgrade my IBM laptop from KDE 3.5 to KDE 4.1 and all sorts of things went wrong :( Since then I've done a fresh install of intrepid alpha 4 and it's all perfect again -- thanks to whever does these things!
[14:50] <xis0x> Konquerer sux :/
[14:51] <xis0x> Nice Project but it isn t better than Mozilla.
[14:52] <flaccid> !ot | xis0x
[14:53] <xis0x> Mkay
[14:53] <xis0x> joined.
[15:15] <sergiu> hello gentlemen, I've just installed Kubuntu Hardy Heron, the problem is that the KDE is not starting, however, in the livecd mode it works perfectly. Any solution?
[15:16] <Serega> sergiu: hey
[15:16] <sergiu> Serega: hi
[15:16] <Serega> sergiu: do you see any error messages during the boot process?
[15:17] <sergiu> there is something related to rc.local
[15:17] <Serega> what video card do you have?
[15:17] <sergiu> Serega: it seems to be OpenChrome
[15:18] <sergiu> Serega: I'm working now from the livecd mode.
[15:20] <Serega> sergiu: does your Xorg (on the installed system) start?
[15:21] <sergiu> Serega: It seems that it's trying to start, I mean, for a second there is an attemp, i can see the cursor, and it crashes.
[15:23] <Serega> sergiu: could you get /var/log/Xorg.0.log from the installed system?
[15:24] <sergiu> Serega: one moment
[15:24] <Serega> but do not paste it here
[15:24] <sergiu> Serega: I got it, what lines are interesting?
[15:25] <Serega> sergiu: errors, indeed
[15:25] <Serega> paste it all somewhere at a pastebin
[15:26] <Serega> I prefer http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca
[15:26] <Serega> and post the link here
[15:28] <sergiu> Serega: http://kubuntu.pastebin.ca/1178687
[15:28] <eshat> Hi all, which package do I need to search grafically for files?
[15:28] <athena> hello
[15:29] <Serega> hi
[15:29] <athena> i can run and customize a system for myself...but I don't understand firewalls
[15:29] <athena> (zone alarms was all i ever got working in windows)
[15:29] <athena> My personal files are no big deal but i volunteer in areas where i need security on my documents
[15:30] <athena> can someone help me step by step on guarddog...i can make the changes i need (for this and that) afterward. So far when I set it up I loose internet and need to reinstall my system
[15:30] <Serega> sergiu: Xorg driver "via" doesn't support your hardware
[15:30] <athena> Ie it is my missing piece
[15:30] <athena> eh?
[15:30] <athena> i've had it work on debain (after help)
[15:30] <Serega> sergiu: try a quick&dirty solution: kill the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:31] <sergiu> Serega: How should I modify it? Do I have to edit the Xorg.conf?
[15:31] <Serega> sergiu: just delete it
[15:32] <Serega> it will be generated at the next Xorg startup
[15:32] <sergiu> Serega: after that will it work?
[15:32] <Serega> athena: what firewall did you use? iptables or ufw?
[15:32] <Serega> sergiu: should
iptables
[15:32] <Serega> at least with vesa driver
[15:33] <sergiu> Serega: Thank you a lot!
[15:33] <athena> oh, and i'm not experienced at IRC---how do i send you a message like you sent me?
[15:33] <Serega> sergiu: np, neighbour :)
[15:33] <athena> I believe I"m using IP tables...
[15:33] <athena> don't know how to check
[15:33] <athena> (and i'm not running standard Kubuntu so it isn't best to fallback to it...i customized it a fair bit)
[15:33] <Serega> athena: what commands did you use to configure it on debian?
[15:36] <athena> someone took me step by step through everything it offered and asked me if i used it. Things were checked, but never "xed". We tried running it after every major step to make sure it was working. I then checked it on that website that will show how you are doing and it all showed as on stealth. Later on I was able to modify simple ports to do what I wanted (ie my mail server uses a non standart pop3 and i wanted to
[15:36] <athena> use a few extra ports for bit torrent
[15:36] <athena> (sorry for long explanation to everyone!)
[15:37] <athena> i used guarddog (duh should have said!)
[15:38] <eshat> Hi all, which package do I need to search grafically for files?
[15:38] <Serega> athena: okay, I suggest you to study the iptables manual. There must be no difference between it's usage in debian and kubuntu
[15:38] <Serega> eshat: konqueror can do this
[15:39] <athena> there is...or my memory isn't good enough (it was several months ago). I tried this yesterday and needed to reinstall the system
[15:39] <athena> is there a book on guarddog and ubuntu/kubuntu. that might do
[15:40]  * Serega shrugs
[15:41] <athena> ok i'll go looking...come back if i can't figure it out. Thanks for letting me know it would have to be very similar. That helps
[15:42] <eshat> Serega: thanks
[15:42] <Serega> athena: np. start with the usual "man iptables", that was my way
[15:43] <Serega> actually this was enough for me to configure the firewall + NAT
[15:48] <concernedcitizen> wow
[15:48] <concernedcitizen> why is adept manager
[15:48] <concernedcitizen> crashing everytime I try to install gimp and inkscape (errr, sorry for the multi-line, bad habit)
[15:54] <wizkoder> hy everybody
[15:55] <alexis> Bonjour a tous j'ai un gros problème aussi bien sous Kubuntu que sous XP, j'ai un DVD+RW philips j'ai voulu graver une image dessus sous windows ça a copier un petit peu puis erreur de format ou je ne sait plus maintenant j'aimerais le reformater mais impossible qui aurais une solution
[15:55] <Pici> !fr | alexis
[15:56] <alexis> sorry
[15:56] <wizkoder> I have a problem with samba:
[15:56] <wizkoder> smbclient //ramones/www -U web-user   <---- works
[15:56] <wizkoder> sudo smbmount //ramones/www /home/markus/ramones/ -o username=web-user,password=pw,domain=unsere_wg   <---- Does not?
[15:57] <wizkoder> I get: mount error: could not find target server. TCP name ramones/www not foundNo ip address specified and hostname not found
[15:58] <flaccid> maybe hosts can't do nmb resolution or something
[15:58] <flaccid> try with IP address first
[15:59] <wizkoder> Will do, good idea :-)
[16:00] <flaccid> what does hostname ramones return?
[16:00] <flaccid> i mean host ramones
[16:01] <wizkoder> markus@markus-desktop:~$ host ramonesHost ramones not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[16:03] <The-Compiler> Hi, i'm having a problem: If I start a OpenGL-Game, it works for the first time, but at the second time it crashes with "Error: Could not get dma buffer... exiting". What's that? I'm on Kubuntu Hardy Heron with KDE4.
[16:03] <flaccid> wizkoder: yeah no hostname resolution
[16:03] <wizkoder> Strange, when I do "smbclient -L //ramones -U web-user" I get this:
[16:04] <wizkoder>  Workgroup            Master        RAMONES_WG           RAMONES
[16:06] <nejode> wizkoder: have you tried installing winbind and editing /etc/nsswitch.conf
[16:07] <wizkoder> not yet :-)
[16:07] <nejode> well, it worked for me
[16:07] <wizkoder> Do I have to edit smb.conf ? Is the workgroup in there needed for the client?
[16:08] <flaccid> wizkoder: thats because smbclient does the nmb resolution itself most likely
[16:09] <nejode> wizkoder: it's always a good idea to be in the same workgroup
[16:09] <flaccid> wizkoder: what OS is ramones?
[16:09] <wizkoder> debian
[16:10] <flaccid> wizkoder: what does nmblookup ramones say?
[16:10] <flaccid> on the client computer
[16:10] <francisco> hello
[16:10] <wizkoder> markus@markus-desktop:/etc$ nmblookup ramonesquerying ramones on 213.83.38.255213.83.38.25 ramones<00>
[16:11] <francisco> de que se habla x aquí?
[16:12] <francisco> nadie abla?
[16:12] <wizkoder> hablamos ingles!
[16:12] <francisco> ok
[16:12] <Pici> !es
[16:13] <SeySayux> wesley_: please react to my private chat
[16:14] <wizkoder> The nm lookup finds the server? I do not understand why I can't connect then
[16:14] <flaccid> check /etc/nsswitch.conf
[16:15] <flaccid> i have hosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns4 and networks:       files
[16:15] <nejode> wizkoder: if your server is debian it's easier-better to use the NFS protocol for local networking between unixes
[16:15] <wizkoder> I have the same entries
[16:18] <nejode> wizkoder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/38816/
[16:21] <flaccid> its only resolution thats failing with the hostname
[16:21] <flaccid> would be the same thing with nfs
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[16:26] <AcidUk> any1 got any good wireless software, other than wot comes with Kubuntu
[16:26] <AcidUk> I have use a NDISWRAPPER for my PCMIA Card
[16:27] <RurouniJones> If you have to use ndiswrapper you have to use ndiswrapper...
[16:27] <xis0x> :P
[16:27] <AcidUk> yes all thats is sorted#
[16:28] <xis0x> Maybe you can find something in the adept.
[16:28] <AcidUk> but its the KDE netmanger ,thats really iffy
[16:28] <RurouniJones> How so
[16:28] <AcidUk> say it cant connect, but really is connected
[16:29] <AcidUk> and others connects just fine
[16:31] <RurouniJones> you could give wicd a go
[16:33] <AcidUk> takeing allok at it now
[16:34] <RurouniJones> don't speak "typed cockney"
[16:35] <xis0x> How to get on the Desktop while playing an Game ?
[16:35] <xis0x> Like on Windows the Windows button :P
[16:37] <xis0x> ?!
[16:38] <EyeOfTheTiger> aha
[16:39] <chipbuddy> wheni install things through synaptic (for example nethack), where is that stored? i'm trying to transfer it to an APTonCD CD, but i don't know where to find the package
[16:39] <flaccid> chipbuddy: /var/cache/apt/archives
[16:40] <chipbuddy> wow nice. thanks
[16:40] <AcidUk> installing wicd now
[16:40] <EyeOfTheTiger> i can't boot kubuntu...avahi daemon failed
[16:40] <xis0x> How to change the Mount Point of an Partition ?
[16:42] <flaccid> !fstab | xis0x
[16:42] <flaccid> you might be able to do it in system settings | disks and filesystems as well
[16:43] <xis0x> Thx
[16:43] <EyeOfTheTiger> is here anybody who can speak german ?
[16:43] <xis0x> Me
[16:43] <xis0x> Query pls.
[16:43] <flaccid> !de | EyeOfTheTiger
[16:43] <EyeOfTheTiger> oh wow
[16:43] <EyeOfTheTiger> thx
[16:49] <chipbuddy> i finally got a basic command line system running on an old laptop, and i want to make using it a little nicer. I don't want any kind of gui, but i would like to have multiple windows that each of a command line. what exactly am i looking for?
[16:50] <chipbuddy> oh, also i'd like the font to be displayed a little better. as it is now the font is all large and blocky. when i had DSL installed the font was all nice and small
[16:51] <flaccid> !info yakuake | chipbuddy
[16:51] <flaccid> chipbuddy: system settings | appearance | fonts for font size etc.
[16:53] <rajkalyan> hello everyone
[16:53] <rajkalyan> can someone help me with my networking card?
[16:54] <AcidUk> wots up wiv it
[16:54] <rajkalyan> i have a dell laptop with a dell ethernet nic card
[16:54] <rajkalyan> kubuntu keeps disableing it
[16:54] <AcidUk> command line ifdown eth0  then ifup eth0
[16:55] <rajkalyan> ok
[16:55] <rajkalyan> ill try that
[16:56] <rajkalyan> im having another issue
[16:56] <rajkalyan> its with my mouse
[16:56] <AcidUk> yea
[16:56] <SmokeEater85911> howdy howdy
[16:56] <AcidUk> ps2 or usb
[16:56] <rajkalyan> ps2
[16:57] <rajkalyan> my laptop is on a port rep
[16:57] <rajkalyan> c/port ||
[16:57] <rajkalyan> hang on
[16:57] <rajkalyan> im going to test something
[16:57] <rajkalyan> net might go out
[16:58] <AcidUk> what so ifconfig show
[16:58] <rajkalyan> lemme see
[16:58] <rajkalyan> is there a key to open K menu?
[16:59] <AcidUk> ALT+F2
[16:59] <rajkalyan> thank you
[17:00] <rajkalyan> how do i fix the mouse?
[17:00] <AcidUk> wot happens when u use a usb mouse , have u tested the mounse on anther PC
[17:01] <AcidUk> dare i say Windows
[17:01] <rajkalyan> ya
[17:01] <rajkalyan> lemme try undocking
[17:01] <rajkalyan> ill be back
[17:02] <rajkalyan> it works if i directly connect to laptop
[17:02] <willo_> Arrfgg
[17:02] <rajkalyan> lemme redock
[17:02]  * willo_ throws Nvidia card out the window
[17:03] <SmokeEater85911> anybody think they can help me solve a sound card issue?
[17:04] <willo_> Who knows nvidia around here? I need some help, please...
[17:05] <Serega_> willo_: yu
[17:05] <Serega_> yup
[17:05] <AcidUk> is just the docking pannel that the mouse dont work on
[17:05] <willo_> I've managed to mangle my installation completely
[17:05] <willo_> Tx Serega
[17:05] <Serega> m?
[17:05] <Serega> ah
[17:05] <Serega> np
[17:05] <willo_> Serega: I tried to be clever with Compiz
[17:06] <willo_> Serega: and installed a bunch of stuff
[17:06] <willo_> Serega: suddenly the nvidia kernel module refuses to load
[17:06] <willo_> Serega:  when I do a modprobe -v nvidia
[17:07] <willo_> install /sbin/lrm-video nvidia
[17:07] <willo_> FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[17:07] <willo_> and nothing in dmesg
[17:07] <willo_> :(
[17:07] <willo_> I've uninstalled everything related to nvidia
[17:07] <ale22944> does anybody knows wich are the best supported minipci wireless cards for Kubuntu/Ubuntu?
[17:07] <willo_> Serega: Including the restricted-modules
[17:08] <willo_> Serega: and tried to reinstall it, but to no avail
[17:08] <willo_> Serega: I've searched Google, trawled the Ubuntu forums
[17:08] <willo_> Serega: Nothing
[17:09] <Serega> willo_: if you want to start from scratch just delete the /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:09] <willo_> Serega: Hmmm... will it reinstall all my kernel modules?
[17:09] <Serega> and then us jockey-kde (Restricted driver manager) again
[17:09] <Serega> s/us/use
[17:09] <AcidUk>  <ale22944> well i have linksys which is not supported by ubuntu but ndiswrapeprs work fine on it
[17:10] <willo_> Serega: I can get in using the nv driver
[17:10] <willo_> Serega: but nv sux
[17:10] <willo_> Serega: It looks like the kernel refuses to load the driver
[17:10] <rajkalyan> i got the mouse to work
[17:11] <rajkalyan> now can someone help me with my wifi card
[17:11] <willo_> Serega: Ok, I'll try that
[17:11] <Serega> willo_: do you use distrib kernel?
[17:11] <willo_> BB Just now
[17:11] <willo_> Serega: yes
[17:11] <AcidUk> how is the network card
[17:11] <rajkalyan> i have a wireless card
[17:12] <rajkalyan> oh yeah
[17:12] <B_Raven> I need a script to run at login, where does it need to be placed/linked to?
[17:12] <willo_> Serega: Linux version 2.6.24-21-rt (buildd@crested) (gcc version 4.2.3 (Ubuntu 4.2.3-2ubuntu7)) #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Tue Aug 12 14:27:12 UTC 2008
[17:12] <rajkalyan> that thing is fine
[17:12] <rajkalyan> it works well
[17:12] <AcidUk> Cool
[17:12] <AcidUk> so now u a wifi card is it
[17:12] <rajkalyan> dlink
[17:12] <rajkalyan> my dad's friend had a whole lot of "junk"
[17:13] <rajkalyan> speakers, laptop, ac adapters
[17:13] <AcidUk> is it usb/pcmia or pci
[17:13] <rajkalyan> batterys
[17:13] <rajkalyan> pci
[17:13] <rajkalyan> i don't have the drive atm
[17:13] <AcidUk> so if you run cat syslog | grep wlan0
[17:14] <AcidUk> wot ut get
[17:15] <Serega> !nvidia
[17:17] <rajkalyan> driver*
[17:17] <rajkalyan> will this card work on linux?
[17:27] <willo_> Serega: No luck
[17:29] <Serega> !nvidia | willo_
[17:30] <willo_> ubottu: did that
[17:31] <Serega> willo_: it is a bot :)
[17:31] <willo_> Serega: I'm not sure what you mean?
[17:32] <Serega> willo_: just pointed you to a wiki page about your problem
[17:32] <Serega> sec
[17:32] <willo_> Serega: Oh, thanks. I followed that.
[17:32] <Serega> willo_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[17:32] <Serega> more precise
[17:33] <willo_> My kdm log says:
[17:33] <willo_> FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[17:33] <willo_> (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module!
[17:33] <willo_> (EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***
[17:35] <willo_> Serega: It definitly doesn't load the module.
[17:36] <willo_> Serega: rmmod nvidia
[17:36] <willo_> Serega: ERROR: Module nvidia does not exist in /proc/modules
[17:37] <willo_> Serega: So I must've installed something that clashes with the nvidia kernel module?
[17:37] <willo_> Serega: How can I find out what that could be?
[17:37] <Serega> willo_: I the perfect world no other package could break the module...
[17:38] <Serega> okay...
[17:40] <Serega> willo_: what do you get on "modprobe nvidia" ?
[17:41] <willo_> FATAL: Error running install command for nvidia
[17:41] <willo_> Serega: Same as in the kdm log
[17:42] <willo_> Serega: I need to go now. I'll pick this up again tomorrow
[17:42] <willo_> Serega: Thanks
[17:43] <Serega> willo_: bookmark this: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-users/2007-June/116348.html
[17:43] <Serega> willo_: good luck
[17:45] <rajkalyan> can someone help me config my wifi card?
[17:45] <Serega> !wifi | rajkalyan
[17:45] <rajkalyan> thank you
[17:46] <Serega> np
[17:46] <AcidUk>  <rajkalyan> U still haveing issues
[17:46] <rajkalyan> nope
[17:46] <rajkalyan> but will dlink work with linux?
[17:46] <AcidUk> with the wifi
[17:46] <rajkalyan> ya
[17:46] <AcidUk> should do
[17:46] <rajkalyan> the wifi isn't even lighting up
[17:47] <AcidUk> wot did syslog show after boot up for wlan0
[17:47] <rajkalyan> ???
[17:47] <rajkalyan> come again?
[17:47] <AcidUk> cat /var/log/syslog | grep wlan0
[17:47] <rajkalyan> ok
[17:47] <AcidUk> see if linux is at leaast seeing the card
[17:47] <rajkalyan> ok
[17:48] <AcidUk> and know what to do with it
[17:48] <rajkalyan> oh darn
[17:48] <AcidUk> ie set it to wlan0
[17:48] <rajkalyan> i have to take out the nic card
[17:48] <Kokosowy> hi!
[17:48] <rajkalyan> the wifi has to go on top
[17:48] <rajkalyan> ill be back...
[17:49] <AcidUk> kk
[17:49] <Kokosowy> anybody knows what gnome module i need to install for baloon notifications from x-chat appear? :)
[17:57] <carlin> !compiz
[18:14] <wildchild> olas
[18:14] <wildchild> alguien me puede ayudar?
[18:17] <keldron> I have a question: I have some mp3s. I would like to burn an audio cd with tracks to listen to in my car, but I would like to have the mp3 files on the same cd. So, I would like to burn a mixed cd. I have K3B on kubuntu, but i can't do it. Would anyone help me please?
[18:19] <B_Raven> keldron, the mixed mode project type doesn't work?
[18:29] <novick> hola
[18:30] <novick> como estan gente
[18:30] <Pici> !es
[18:31] <hovzio> Hello, I have recently started learning about basic bash scripting. I understand the sheer basics and some simple control structures. I find myself in the need for some examples, along with explanations.All I have been able to find has been to complex and without reference.
[18:31] <hovzio> any ideas?
[18:31] <cyberponix> !tunneling
[18:32] <cyberponix> tunneling has my attention any pointers?
[18:32] <cyberponix> and yes i know about google lmao
[18:38] <besitzer> hbb
[18:42] <besitzer> zsdgfc
[18:44] <rajkalyan> can someone please give me a link to the ubuntu wireless page
[18:44] <rajkalyan> i would like to check if my card is compatiable
[18:44] <Pici> !wifi
[18:44] <rajkalyan> or something like that
[18:44] <rajkalyan> thank you
[18:47] <cyberponix_> rajkalyan: if you can not find your card there madwifi is what u might need thats how i got my card working
[18:47] <rajkalyan> ok
[18:47] <rajkalyan> thanks, ill try that
[18:48] <rajkalyan> madwifi is... a program?
[18:49] <cyberponix_> madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility check there
[18:49] <fr00d> Tagchen!
[18:49] <rajkalyan> thank you
[18:49] <fr00d> damn!
[18:49] <rajkalyan> ok?...
[18:49] <rajkalyan> what was that!?
[18:49] <fr00d> I just wanted kubuntu-de and was a little bit too fast. ;)
[18:49] <fr00d> sorry
[18:50] <cyberponix_> MadWifi is one of the most advanced WLAN drivers available for Linux today. It is stable and has an established userbase
[18:50] <rajkalyan> what does Tagchen! mean?
[18:50] <rajkalyan> i think i got it
[18:50] <fr00d> rajkalyan: Something like hello in german.
[18:50] <rajkalyan> oh
[18:50] <rajkalyan> that sounded like something else..
[18:50] <fr00d> oO
[18:50] <rajkalyan> hahaha
[18:50]  * rajkalyan stares
[18:51] <cyberponix_> rajkalyan: www.madwifi.org
[18:51] <rajkalyan> ill try unplugging lan
[18:51] <fr00d> So, when I'm already here: Could somebody tell me how to move panel widgets?
[18:51] <rajkalyan> if it doesn't work, ill have to do a restart an more golmal
[18:53] <Hammer75G> Hello
[18:54] <rajkalyan> will someone be willing to walk me through getting my card to work?
[18:54] <rajkalyan> im a little confused
[18:55] <cyberponix_> rajkalyan: i am assuming u have kubuntu installed on your computer?
[18:55] <rajkalyan> yes i do
[18:55] <rajkalyan> gutsy
[18:56] <cyberponix_> laptop or desktop?
[18:56] <rajkalyan> laptop
[18:56] <cyberponix_> do u know the kind of card you have/
[18:56] <rajkalyan> i know the make and the model
[18:56] <rajkalyan> and it says acx or something....
[18:56] <cyberponix_> ok
[18:57] <rajkalyan> the driver appears to be acx something
[18:58] <cyberponix_> try using this site if that does not work come back here ok?
[18:58] <cyberponix_> http://thelinuxnewbie.blogspot.com/2006/08/installing-wifi-wireless-c_115515845577896146.html
[18:58] <rajkalyan> thank you
[18:59] <cyberponix_> yw
[18:59] <wishie> most of the time, my multimedia keys on my laptop work.. sometimes, they just stop working.. what program handles them in KD E?
[18:59] <wishie> KDE too
[18:59] <wishie> or in kubuntu in general
[19:00] <cyberponix_> like they work for music but not movies?
[19:00] <odinsbane> I cannot configure a spell checker for kate.
[19:00] <ScorpKing> hi guys. i have a extra backup drive mounted at /mnt and want to always keep /mnt the same as /home .what can i use with a cron job? rsync maybe or is there a better option?
[19:01] <wishie> cyberponix_: like, right now, they arent working at all. no little OSD etc that usually comes up
[19:01] <cyberponix_> what kind of laptop do u have?
[19:01] <rajkalyan> cyberponix_: i can't find the driver
[19:01] <wishie> HP DV2839TX
[19:02] <cyberponix_> rajkalyan: give me a sec ok?
[19:02] <wishie> they usually work flawlessly, but sometimes (read rarely) stop working
[19:02] <rajkalyan> ok
[19:02] <rajkalyan> i think i found it
[19:02] <wishie> cyberponix_: logging out/in of KDE usually resolves it
[19:03] <wishie> its not a hardware bug, as xev still sees the button presses
[19:03] <cyberponix_> pain in the rear i know hold on a sec
[19:04] <cyberponix_> i had the same issues with my toshiba
[19:04] <cyberponix_> http://aldeby.org/blog/index.php/en-hp-pavilion-multimedia-buttons-configuration-under-linux-linux-quickplay.html
[19:04] <cyberponix_> that should help
[19:04] <wishie> yeah, read that , and commented on there about some buttons not working
[19:05] <wishie> ie, my "DVD" and "Quickplay" buttons dont seem to send events (xev cant see them)
[19:05] <cyberponix_> it never hurts to recheck systm setting for butten short cuts
[19:05] <wishie> its gotta be some software issue though, as logging out/in seems to fix it..
[19:05] <wishie> ill confirm that now.. brb
[19:05] <cyberponix_> make sure they have been duel set for music and movies
[19:06] <cyberponix_> rajkalyan: ok I need the make/modle of your wifi card
[19:06] <rajkalyan> D-Link DWL-650+
[19:06] <rajkalyan> i found a driver though
[19:07] <rajkalyan> i hope it'll work
[19:07] <cyberponix_> got it working?
[19:07] <cyberponix_> d-link isnt that a usb plug in?
[19:07] <rajkalyan> im still following the newbie guide
[19:07] <wishie> yep, working again.. after logging out/in to KDE
[19:07] <rajkalyan> nope
[19:07] <rajkalyan> some are
[19:07] <rajkalyan> this is a pci
[19:07] <cyberponix_> ok keep going through the guide I gave ya
[19:08] <wishie> hmm, what program handles the little OSD that pops up for volume changes etc ?
[19:10] <cyberponix_> wishie: ur best bet maybe to summit a bug report
[19:10] <wishie> to kubuntu or kde ?
[19:10] <wishie> and against which package ? heh
[19:10] <cyberponix_> lol true
[19:10] <cyberponix_> I would send it under kubuntu
[19:10] <wishie> if i could just figure out which program handles it..
[19:11] <wishie> even the OSD
[19:11] <cyberponix_> as for what package i do not know....
[19:11] <wishie> does your laptop pop up a little OSD when changing volume etc ?
[19:11] <cyberponix_> yes middle of my screen
[19:12] <rajkalyan> cyberponix_: i need one of those little "tarball" things
[19:12] <wishie> yeah
[19:12] <wishie> wanna find out what does that :)
[19:12] <rajkalyan> i found an executalbe
[19:13] <cyberponix_> u could submit it as an unknown package error
[19:13] <wishie> hmm, if this helps..
[19:14] <wishie> i think that time they stopped working, was right after i got the "KDE crash handler" dialog pop up
[19:14] <wishie> but it was for kded it said
[19:14] <forty-seven_> hi all, where can I find my php binary after installing lamp-server?
[19:14] <forty-seven_> I want to upgrade it to the 5.3.x RC
[19:15] <cyberponix_> wishie: man if I had your comp here in front of me this would be so much easier
[19:15] <rajkalyan> cyberponix_: help!!!
[19:15] <rajkalyan> its not working
[19:16] <wishie> cyberponix_: i know the feeling. i debug alsa issues for _many_ people
[19:16] <cyberponix_> rajkalyan: then u must need madwifi
[19:16] <rajkalyan> i need the driver package
[19:16] <rajkalyan> i have an exe
[19:16] <rajkalyan> but i need a .inf
[19:16] <cyberponix_> hold on'
[19:17] <cyberponix_> ndiswrapper is not handling it?
[19:17] <Jeep> Is anyone there?
[19:17] <rajkalyan> i have everything except for the inf
[19:17] <rajkalyan> if i find it, i can install it and be on my way
[19:17] <wishie> rajkalyan: the exe isnt infact a zip, is it ?
[19:18] <rajkalyan> nope
[19:18] <rajkalyan> its just by itself
[19:18] <wishie> some companies use self-extracting zips
[19:18] <wishie> 'file whatever.exe' to see what it says
[19:19] <cyberponix_> rajkalyan: I am researching ur card give me a mi ok/
[19:19] <rajkalyan> ok
[19:21] <cyberponix_> rajkalyan:  http://madwifi.org/wiki/Compatibility/D-Link#DWL-650 this is your card right?
[19:21] <rajkalyan> lemme see
[19:22] <rajkalyan> looks like it
[19:23] <cyberponix_> k we can use madwifi to get u up and going
[19:23] <cyberponix_> give me a min
[19:23] <Jeep> Can someone tell  me if I have logged in?
[19:24] <odinsbane> When I install the kat plugins package it doesn't come with the spell check plugin.  Does anybody know where I can get that?
[19:24] <cyberponix_> Jeep: we see u
[19:24] <Jeep> thanks
[19:24] <cyberponix_> yw
[19:24] <cyberponix_> rajkalyan: hit "f2" type "konsole"
[19:25] <cyberponix_> then
[19:25] <rajkalyan> ok
[19:25] <cyberponix_> "sudo apt-get install madwifi"
[19:25] <rajkalyan> ok
[19:25] <Jeep> Is there a dictionary of meanings for Linux?
[19:25] <rajkalyan> thanks
[19:25] <cyberponix_> Jeep:  sure www.google.com/linux
[19:26] <rajkalyan> its installing it
[19:26] <cyberponix_> we are not done yet
[19:26] <rajkalyan> uh oh
[19:26] <rajkalyan> it couldn't find it
[19:26] <rajkalyan> E: Couldn't find package madwifi
[19:27] <rajkalyan> let me try adept
[19:27] <cyberponix_> have u managed ur repositorys?
[19:27] <rajkalyan> ??
[19:27] <cyberponix_> oh ur using adept still?
[19:27] <rajkalyan> yup
[19:27] <cyberponix_> adept sucks man
[19:28] <rajkalyan> what do i use instead?
[19:28] <cyberponix_> hold on a sec
[19:28] <cyberponix_> open adept
[19:28] <rajkalyan> im going to install madwifi
[19:30] <cyberponix_> upper left hand corner click "adept" a menu will pop up find manage repositories
[19:30] <rajkalyan> ok
[19:31] <cyberponix_> first tab make sure they all have the x mark
[19:31] <rajkalyan> ok
[19:31] <rajkalyan> first tab of what?
[19:31] <cyberponix_> next tab the two web sites that come default
[19:32] <rajkalyan> ok
[19:32] <cyberponix_> got the tabs?
[19:32] <cyberponix_> make sure they have the x mark
[19:32] <rajkalyan> im waiting for it to load
[19:32] <cyberponix_> for what to load?
[19:33] <Jeep> I tried Google.com/Linux and there is no such site.
[19:33] <rajkalyan> for adept
[19:34] <rajkalyan> my laptop is quite slow
[19:34] <cyberponix_> when it does in the search bar type synaptic
[19:34] <rajkalyan> ok
[19:34] <rajkalyan> is that another package manager?
[19:35] <rajkalyan> oh god
[19:35] <cyberponix_> Jeep: http://www.google.com/linux click the link
[19:35] <rajkalyan> its got to downlado stuff
[19:36] <cyberponix_> it is a package man that does not crash as offten nor does it lose so much stuff, much better than adept
[19:36] <rajkalyan> ok
[19:36] <cyberponix_> I take it u are totally new to linux?
[19:37] <uoaphys> Hi all, I just installed ubuntu 8.04 but I want to use the KDE 4.1 desktop... Is this possible and if so, whats the best way to do it?
[19:38] <cyberponix_> uoaphys: hit "f2" type konsole the type "sudo apt-get install kde 4.1"
[19:41] <cyberponix_> rajkalyan: u still there?
[19:41] <rajkalyan> ya
[19:41] <cyberponix_> and?
[19:41] <rajkalyan> im installing
[19:41] <cyberponix_> ok
[19:41] <rajkalyan> installed!
[19:41] <cyberponix_> lol
[19:41] <rajkalyan> whats so funny?
[19:42] <cyberponix_> close adept and open syn
[19:42] <rajkalyan> ok
[19:42] <rajkalyan> crap
[19:42] <rajkalyan> it cashed
[19:42] <rajkalyan> oh
[19:42] <rajkalyan> lol
[19:43] <rajkalyan> awesome
[19:43] <rajkalyan> this owns adept
[19:44] <odinsbane> Okay so kate spell checker works, if the file ends with .txt but if it ends with .xml the spell checker wont start.
[19:44] <cyberponix_> i told u
[19:45] <teddy_> ?
[19:47] <rajkalyan> syn open
[19:47] <rajkalyan> errr, it was...
[19:48] <rajkalyan> hang on (@_@)
[19:49] <uoaphys> cyberpoinx, I don't have kde3 installed, I'm running the U-buntu version
[19:49] <uoaphys> and i went into synaptic and all i see is a kde4 package, but not a kde4.1 package
[19:49] <pokee> I have a sony vaio vgn-nr110e. Can I install this? http://www.popies.net/sonypi/
[19:51] <gkffjcs_> How do you figure out what run level you are currently in, better yet, what is ubuntu/kubuntu's default runlevel
[19:52] <rajkalyan> cyberponix_: syn is open, now what?
[19:52] <cyberponix_> search for madwifi now
[19:53] <rajkalyan> i found madwifi-tools
[19:53] <rajkalyan> is that it
[19:53] <rajkalyan> ?
[19:53] <cyberponix_> that should work
[19:53] <rajkalyan> install?
[19:54] <rajkalyan> its getting it
[19:54] <rajkalyan> will i need to get a driver file?
[19:55] <pokee> I have a sony vaio vgn-nr110e. Can I install this? http://www.popies.net/sonypi/
[19:56] <cyberponix_> yes but from madwifi
[19:56] <rajkalyan> i can't find madwifi
[19:56] <rajkalyan> i installed it through syntaptic
[19:57] <rajkalyan> but i can't find it the menu
[19:58] <cyberponix_> u wont
[19:58] <cyberponix_> hold on
[19:59] <Haza> Evening folks. How come if i want to play a .ogg file i have to run mplayer with these arguments or i just get a nasty green screen instead of the video?  - mplayer -vo x11
[20:02] <casa3> ?
[20:02] <casa3> ?
[20:03] <cyberponix_> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/madwifi/madwifi-0.9.4.tar.gz
[20:03] <casa3> ????
[20:03] <rajkalyan> ok
[20:05] <cyberponix_> I need to go i'm sorry
[20:05] <cyberponix_> http://madwifi.org/wiki/UserDocs/FirstTimeHowTo
[20:05] <rajkalyan> ok
[20:05] <rajkalyan> thanks
[20:05] <cyberponix_> this should help u get it it though
[20:06] <AcidUk> rajkalyan> wots the news on the wifi then
[20:06] <casa3> expliquenme un poco acerca de este sercidor
[20:06] <rajkalyan> im working on it
[20:06] <casa3> servidor**
[20:06] <AcidUk> is nix seeing the card
[20:07] <rajkalyan> i don't think so
[20:07] <rajkalyan> im getting madwifi
[20:07] <cyberponix_> !spanish
[20:07] <cyberponix_> l8r all
[20:07] <AcidUk> that may help , although u will have to build the drivers
[20:07] <rajkalyan> later
[20:07] <AcidUk> cU
[20:07] <cyberponix_> rajkalyan: goog luck man sory i can not be on longer i have to go to work
[20:08] <rajkalyan> its fine
[20:08] <rajkalyan> thanks a lot
[20:08] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> hi guys! amarok crashed and everytime i start it, it just keeps crashing and crashing again. what do i do? thank you
[20:09] <AcidUk> KubunTu and VLC
[20:09] <AcidUk>  any1 got it up and running
[20:10] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i have it AcidUk
[20:10] <AcidUk> it just wont install niether from source or apt
[20:11] <AcidUk> apt say break install
[20:11] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> maybe cuz u tried already to install it
[20:12] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> and now its stucked and just doesnt move
[20:12] <AcidUk> yea , thought that but , make clean dos't change things niether
[20:13] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> try this
[20:13] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[20:13] <lispnoob> What is the widget on this screenshot : http://img356.imageshack.us/img356/7836/kubuntugutsyqm2.png ?
[20:14] <lispnoob> The one with cpu usage and stuff
[20:15] <ScorpKing> lispnoob: it looks like a superkaramba theme to me
[20:15] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> AcidUk: did you solve it up?
[20:16] <lispnoob> Someone in ##linux found it, its conky
[20:16] <AcidUk>  nothing yet
[20:16] <AcidUk> just recompileing a sec
[20:17] <AcidUk> looks like its failing on a library libmad
[20:18] <AcidUk> ok just applying libraries
[20:18] <jimmy_> Hallo, have a little problem, how shutdown StackSmashProtection while compile code with gcc 4.2.3 ?
[20:20] <wildchild> #kubuntues
[20:20] <wildchild> #kubuntu_es
[20:21] <wildchild> #kubuntu-es
[20:21] <jpds> wildchild: /join #kubuntu-es
[20:24] <jimmy_> Hallo, have a little problem, how shutdown StackSmashProtection while compile code with gcc 4.2.3 ?
[20:24] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> amarok keeps crashing, when runned from terminal thats what it says http://paste.ubuntu.com/38887/
[20:24] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> help?
[20:29] <AcidUk> had that problem with amerok , changed the audio setting in preferences and all was ok
[20:29] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i just cant open it
[20:30] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> it runs for few secs and then crashes
[20:31] <AcidUk> do u get chance to play mp3
[20:32] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> it was playing right? at some point it crashed and now everytime i run it, it just keeps crashing
[20:35] <AcidUk> have u removed all libraries and installs
[20:35] <AcidUk> and reinstalled
[20:42] <sourcemaker> is there a console client for irc?
[20:42] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> AcidUk how do i remove all the libraries?
[20:43] <thefish> sourcemaker: irssi
[20:43] <sourcemaker> thefish: thanks
[20:43] <thefish> no worries :)
[20:44] <thefish> sourcemaker: google for irssi + screen - nice combo
[20:44] <sourcemaker> thefish: I will try this
[20:45] <kbt> sera
[20:45] <kbt> a tutti
[20:46] <uoaphys> Hi, I have Ubuntu 8.04 installed here, but wanted to get KDE4.1 on it, and be able to see it as an option when I login. Can someone help me with that?
[20:47] <uoaphys> i don't currently have KDE installed (using ubuntu default)
[20:48] <mizipzor> according to winehq.com, 1.0 is the latest stable release, but is there a way to get the development version through apt-get?
[20:59] <LordCrc> hi
[21:02] <LordCrc> i installed kubuntu 7.10 from a cd, and now i want to update a few things with adept, but it wants the cd... which i of course can't find :) i see that it's set the cd as the main repository. I thought i could perhaps use an online source, but my google skills fail me, as i can't find which url to use...
[21:03] <SmokeEater85911> anybody know how to get a printer working with kubuntu?
[21:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> depends on the printer
[21:05] <Haza> Damn its hard to record your desktop + sound eh?
[21:05] <SmokeEater85911> Lexmark Z645
[21:06] <SmokeEater85911> I cant find any drivers for it
[21:06] <js__> Bonjour !
[21:07] <SmokeEater85911> just because it doesnt list Linux on the compat. list doesnt mean there isnt a driver out there for it right?
[21:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> SmokeEater85911: good luck.
[21:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> SmokeEater85911: it's lexmark.  it would be a miracle if you got it working
[21:08] <LordCrc> ah, just remove the repo and its cool, heh, should have known it was that easy
[21:08] <Daisuke_Laptop> that is the single worst printer manufacturer ever in the history of printers
[21:09] <SmokeEater85911> yeah tell me about it, we got it for $25 at wally world
[21:09] <SmokeEater85911> there is a reason it was that cheap lol its a POS
[21:09] <Awnek> Hello, I have my adept manager stuck trying to install Java. I am also unable to access Adept Manger because of the error "Database Locked"
[21:11] <Awnek> Are there any commands to clear this out? I have rebooted and had the chance to reinstall or continue the java installation but the installation would not finish
[21:14] <chrisinajar> I have a laptop that, sometimes, doesn't turn off...
[21:14] <chrisinajar> I'm not really sure how to troubleshoot that though...
[21:17] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> hi guys, without giving the usual answer "it depends what u need it for" i'd like to know your opinion about: what's the best desktop environment for linux? (dont link me the bots chan plzz)
[21:18] <_mn_> i like KDE4
[21:18] <_mn_> I haven't tried GNOME yet but i intend to
[21:19] <_mn_> I don't really like Xfce.  But it really depends, do you like the Windows desktop environment or the Mac desktop environment?
[21:20] <lispnoob> i like gnome
[21:21] <lispnoob> i havent tried kde4 yet but i intend to
[21:21] <_mn_> :)
[21:21] <lispnoob> ;)
[21:22] <Howite> any suggestions why disks wont automount in kubuntu 8.04? I have edited /etc/fstab
[21:24] <_debg_> what filesystem do the disks have ??
[21:25] <Howite> NTFS. first, I have mounted it in Konqueror (media:/), then got the params by "mount" and pasted it in fstab
[21:26] <Howite> it mounts as fuseblk (I didn't try ntfs-3g yet, but in media:/ it mounts and works correctly!
[21:27] <UnderWraps> Hi
[21:27] <Howite> Hello
[21:27] <_debg_> the fstype is fuseblk .. but I guess it used ntfs-3g
[21:27] <Howite> maybe, it haves write support and mounts with "rw" param
[21:28] <Howite> here's the line: /dev/sdb2       /mnt/C          fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0
[21:28] <_debg_> "/dev/sda1       /media/windows  ntfs-3g         users,locale=en_US.utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000       0       0"
[21:28] <_debg_> this is what I have in fstab and it automounts .
[21:28] <Howite> ok, thanks, will try it
[21:28] <Howite> but not sure about codepage..
[21:29] <Howite> well i'll google it
[21:29] <Howite> thanks^^
[21:32] <UnderWraps> I downloaded Kubuntu Intrepid Alpha 4 earlier and burnt a CD with K3b, the MD5 was fine. When I restarted my PC I picked my language and then some options appeared, I chose 1) then the screen went red for about 30 seconds, then red and white vertical stripes appeared
[21:32] <Howite> damn, doesn't works
[21:33] <_debg_> do you have ntfs-3g installed ?
[21:34] <Howite> of course, it works out of the box in 8.04, I've tried to install it but apt-get said I've already have it %)
[21:34] <Howite> have changed some options, reboot again
[21:37] <Howite> no way
[21:38] <_debg_> what do you have on fstab now ?
[21:39] <Howite> ./dev/sdb2       /mnt/C          ntfs-3g users,locale=en_US.utf8,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[21:39] <Howite> (dot is for kvirc)
[21:40] <_debg_> I think uid and gid is different in your system .
[21:40] <Denise> are mandriva fedora and suse similar than debian stuff?
[21:41] <_debg_> cat /etc/passwd | grep <your user name>
[21:41] <_debg_> there you should get your uid and gid
[21:41] <rambo3> how do i install these skz plasmoids?
[21:42] <Denise> it seems similar
[21:43] <Howite> [00:41] <_debg_> there you should get your uid and gid - thanks
[21:43] <Howite> :)
[21:43] <Howite> 1000:1000 :(
[21:43] <Denise> is fedora like ubuntu?
[21:43] <Howite> nope, fedora uses stupid RPM >.<
[21:44] <Daisuke_Laptop> Denise: in that it's a linux distribution, yes.  as far as system and package management, no.
[21:44] <Denise> oh
[21:44] <Denise> but my book talks about redhat stuff
[21:44] <Denise> dman
[21:45] <Daisuke_Laptop> depends on how specific it gets
[21:45] <Denise> I see same programs
[21:45] <Denise> like kde ans samba and so on
[21:45] <Denise> konqueror
[21:46] <Howite> yes, it have same programs, but method of install is different
[21:46] <Denise> i think they have common things
[21:46] <Denise> omg
[21:46] <mado> oy guys - hi there - i want to send some files and folders from my computer to another computer in the network - i use kubuntu linux 8.04 and the two other computers use (the first) 7.10 and (the second) 8.04
[21:47] <Denise> anyway can>t be bad to know both ways
[21:48] <Denise> rpm instead of grub?
[21:48] <Denise> or gnome?
[21:48] <Howite> ermm...
[21:48] <Howite> no
[21:48] <_debg_> check if fuse module is loaded at boot .. lsmod | grep fuse
[21:48] <mado> currently i am reading something about a crossover-cable-way ... but this doesn't look like my problem
[21:48] <Howite> RPM is a Red Hat (uses in RH*, SuSE, Mandriva, Fedora distros) Package Managment system
[21:49] <Howite> Ubuntu systems (and Debian) uses DEB (dpkg, apt) package managment system
[21:49] <Denise> hum
[21:49] <Denise> so I will be all mixed up?
[21:49] <Howite> erm?
[21:50] <Denise> it is linux book for dummies
[21:50] <Denise> anyway they presents gnome and kde
[21:50] <mado> testrun
[21:50] <Howite> wait
[21:50] <Denise> bash is the same?
[21:50] <Howite> no
[21:50] <Howite> GRUB and LILO are boot-loaders (also they are have menu where you can choose OS to load)
[21:51] <Denise> redhat uses lilo?
[21:51] <Howite> dunno
[21:51] <Howite> nevermind what uses redhat
[21:51] <Howite> any distro can use any package management system, any bootloader, any DE etc.
[21:52] <Howite> but by default it haves binded software
[21:52] <mado-kar> *waiting* (not impatient)
[21:52] <Howite> GNOME, KDE, XFCE are desktop enviroments, KDE haves more functionality, GNOME is something middle, XFCE for slow computers. it provides user-friendly interface like a "start" button in Windows etc
[21:53] <Denise> ok
[21:53] <Denise> and it is like the same three steps for fedora mandriva and SuSE?
[21:53] <Howite> erm.. nope
[21:54] <Denise> SuSE seems to be something special
[21:54] <Howite> or yes.. dunno about fedora, but in SuSE and Mandriva when you install it u can choose what desktop enviroment you'll use
[21:54] <Denise> is it as used as ubuntu stuff?
[21:54] <Howite> for more info read wiki
[21:54] <Howite> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_Linux_distributions
[21:54] <_debg_> package manager in SuSE is a bit different that redhat although both used rpm .
[21:55] <mado-kar> can anyone help me?
[21:55] <Howite> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Desktop_environment
[21:55] <Howite> mado-kar: just ask :)
[21:55] <_debg_> you can choose your desktop env in fedora as well .
[21:56] <mado-kar> well then Howite ... can you help me to do the things i asked for?
[21:56] <Howite> oh
[21:56] <Howite> sorry
[21:57] <mado-kar> ?
[21:57] <Howite> well about crossover cable
[21:57] <mado-kar> no no ...
[21:57] <Howite> how your computers are connected?
[21:57] <mado-kar> with a router
[21:57] <Howite> via switch/router or directly?
[21:57] <Howite> then you dont need that
[21:57] <Howite> (X cable i mean)
[21:57] <mado-kar> ok :)
[21:58] <mado-kar> i'm glad you can see me writing ... for some seconds i thought no one could
[21:58] <Howite> sorry again
[21:59] <Howite> ^^' i was sweeped
[21:59] <mado-kar> why do you apologize? *thinking* i see no reason at the moment
[21:59] <Howite> because of i ignored you (but actually i'm not)
[21:59] <mado-kar> :)
[21:59] <mado-kar> don't worry about that!
[22:00] <mado-kar> i know that you sometimes have to wait some time
[22:00] <mado-kar> till you get an answer
[22:01] <Howite> _debg_: fuse is loaded, yeap
[22:01] <mado-kar> *waiting and reading*
[22:02] <Howite> uhm, mado-kar, do u use samba?
[22:03] <mado-kar> no ... i don't use anything at the moment because i was reading some web-pages about how to go about this whole thing :)
[22:04] <mado-kar> then i thought it would be easier to ask one of you guys who know more :)
[22:04] <mado-kar> sorry! ... guys and gals!
[22:04]  * Howite don't know anything about samba
[22:04] <mado-kar> someone told me the last time to write "gals" too because it is important now
[22:04] <Howite> it may help you - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=318140
[22:04] <mado-kar> if you know another easy way it is ol!
[22:04] <mado-kar> ok
[22:05] <mado-kar> s/ol/ok
[22:05] <Howite> yeap, it's important^^ /me knows many geek girls
[22:06] <mado-kar> i know / knew one :)
[22:06] <mado-kar> but ... wait!
[22:06] <mado-kar> no ...
[22:06] <Howite> huh?
[22:07] <mado-kar> it's some other problem i have ...
[22:07] <mado-kar> my partner was a very clever gal
[22:07] <Denise> is there a dummies book for ubuntu family?
[22:07] <mado-kar> and it still makes me a bit sad whenever i think of her
[22:07] <mado-kar> funny thing is ...
[22:07] <Howite> Denise: there is a google and wikipedia :)
[22:08] <Denise> okokok
[22:08] <mado-kar> she always crosses my mind
[22:08] <Howite> http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy
[22:08] <rickest> Denise: yes, by Paul G. Sery
[22:08] <mado-kar> was this a correct sentence? *thinking*
[22:08] <mado-kar> Howite, i don't know if you knew her ... but i guess she was in here too sometimes
[22:09] <Howite> I'm second day there
[22:09] <mado-kar> uhuu ... i see ... where have you been before?
[22:09] <Howite> And my GFs weren't geeks :(
[22:09] <Howite> in one of russian irc networks^^'
[22:09] <mado-kar> well ... i only had one before ... her ... her name was daniela :)
[22:10] <mado-kar> oh russian! ... no ... i don't think she was in russian networks :)
[22:10] <Howite> Nice name
[22:10] <Howite> I don't think too:D
[22:11] <mado-kar> the site you showed me unfortunately didn't help me
[22:11] <Howite> so what's the problem?
[22:11] <Howite> you can't connect computers?
[22:11] <mado-kar> with my galfriend or with the computers? :)
[22:11] <mado-kar> oh!
[22:11] <mado-kar> ok ...
[22:12] <mado-kar> the problem is i just don't know how to connect to another computer or send something from A to B
[22:12] <Howite> the site i showed you can't help you with GF, isn't it?
[22:13] <mado-kar> :| -> :)
[22:13] <Howite> oh well you can use 2 basic ways. first is samba (windows uses it too, so if one day u'll need to connect Ubuntu with Windows it's the best way), second is FTP (i like it much more but it's.. weird?)
[22:13] <Howite> about samba: http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2005/11/how-to-share-files-using-samba.html
[22:13] <Howite> http://kubuntu101.blogspot.com/2006/10/sharing-samba-folders-to-windows-xp.html
[22:14] <Howite> and others (http://www.google.com/search?q=kubuntu+how+to+samba&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=com.ubuntu:en-US:unofficial&client=firefox-a)
[22:15] <mado-kar> i will check this links in some minutes
[22:15] <Howite> about ftp - just install gproftpd (in console "sudo apt-get install gproftpd" and say Y for any questions)
[22:15] <mado-kar> thank you for your help
[22:15] <mado-kar> ftp?
[22:15] <mado-kar> between two computers?
[22:15] <Howite> yeah, why not? one is ftp server, second is a client
[22:15] <Howite> i said this way is too weird!
[22:15] <Howite> :D
[22:16] <mado-kar> :)
[22:16] <mado-kar> well ...
[22:16] <mado-kar> i thought there should be an easy way like ...
[22:16] <Howite> well the only was is samba IMO
[22:16] <mado-kar> using konqueror / dolphin ...
[22:16] <Howite> samba is an easy way
[22:16] <Howite> oh
[22:16] <Howite> nope
[22:16] <Denise> could I try the red hat stuff on the same computer or the hdd are not formatted the same way?
[22:16] <Howite> but u'll have ability to use it in konqueror/dolphin
[22:17] <mado-kar> opening up a folder and then copy the things to another folder and on the other i can see this folder to copy the things in there
[22:17] <Howite> Denise: yes, linux distros often uses "ext3" filesystem
[22:17] <Denise> ok
[22:17] <Howite> mado-kar: you can do it
[22:17] <Denise> nice
[22:17] <Denise> I could have a partition for their stuff?
[22:18] <Howite> ermmm.. yeah, you need a clean ext2/ext3/reiserfs partition
[22:18] <Howite> but I don't recommend red hat distro for home use.^^
[22:18] <Howite> SuSE, Mandriva and Fedora are more friendly
[22:18] <mado-kar> i'll be back
[22:19] <Howite> mado-kar: k, good luck
[22:19] <Denise> that's what I meant sorry
[22:19] <Denise> the three ones
[22:19] <Howite> :)
[22:19] <Denise> linux world is fascinating
[22:19] <Howite> yeap
[22:20] <Howite> i thought (and still thinking) so.. after Windows...
[22:20] <Denise> hum
[22:20] <Denise> are the secure net servers for gvt and all of those stuff use linux?
[22:20] <Howite> gvt? what is gvt?
[22:21] <Denise> like canadian minister
[22:21] <Denise> for anything at all
[22:21] <Denise> I mean  provbably linux is top
[22:22] <Denise> online services for citizens and all that
[22:22] <Shadowkllr> mne, you there?
[22:23] <Denise> yes
[22:23] <Denise> it comes back in my memory
[22:23] <Denise> I read about that
[22:23] <Denise> fascinating
[22:24] <Denise> so I bought the wrong book maybe
[22:24] <Denise> anyway
[22:25] <Denise> I see files are .rpm instead of .deb
[22:25] <Howite> yeah, .rpm are used in mandriva, fedora, suse and other redhat based distros
[22:26] <Howite> .deb is used in debian and ubuntus
[22:26] <Shadowkllr> maybe someone else can answer my question-does notepad++ have any plugins to connect to openssh sftp?  If not, (i still want my ftp's encrypted), would running a different ftp server program that is compatible with notepad++ be an option if I tunnel it through my ssh connection, which would still be encrypted (currently I tunnel vnc through the ssh connection and everything is encrypted fine)
[22:26] <Denise> ok but basicly it is the same principle?
[22:27] <Howite> Denise: hm.. nope.
[22:27] <Howite> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RPM_Package_Manager
[22:27] <Howite> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deb_(file_format)
[22:27] <Howite> read this
[22:27] <Denise> ok
[22:32] <Denise> ok so it is as if in rpm it was both in one and in deb two package the progran and the lector?
[22:32] <Denise> program
[22:32] <Denise> and kinda reader
[22:32] <Denise> and in rpm both in one
[22:33] <Denise> why the difference if they both are for linux?
[22:36] <_mn_> If I want to install Kubuntu on a computer.  What file system should I format the hard drive to be?
[22:36] <Denise> so which one is best?
[22:38] <Denise> it seems to do the same thing
[22:39] <Denise> suse seems top for music
[22:39] <rickest> _mn_: hard to go wrong with ext3
[22:39] <Shadowkllr> mn, when you install kubuntu, generally you want to make 3 partitions, the first one should be ext3, and you want the mount to be "/".....that is going to be reserved for your filesystem, the next one is going to be the remainder of the hard drive, minus double the amount of ram you have(i'll explain that next)......the primary mount for that is going to be "/home", it's also going to be...
[22:39] <Shadowkllr> ...ext3, and that's where all your user files are going to be.....the third is formatted as "swap"....works much like your windows pagefile to assist your ram consumption
[22:40] <Shadowkllr> oh, the first partition, should probably be around 8gb to be safe, especially if using a gui desktop
[22:41] <_mn_> whoa, ok I'm gonna running windows on one partition
[22:41] <Shadowkllr> ok, then in that case you'll have 4 partitions
[22:41] <Shadowkllr> dual booting i presume
[22:41] <_mn_> no
[22:42] <Shadowkllr> VM?
[22:42] <_mn_> i meant yes
[22:42] <_mn_> sorry dual booting
[22:42] <_mn_> my bad
[22:42] <Shadowkllr> hehe it's ok
[22:43] <Denise> ok first one with 8gb
[22:43] <Denise> and the swap how big?
[22:44] <Shadowkllr> the swap should be whatever your ram is x 2
[22:44] <_mn_> wait, why does linux require more that one partition for one operating system?  Windows only requires one.
[22:44] <Shadowkllr> i.e. my linux box has 1.5 gigs of ram, therefore i have a 3gb swap partition
[22:44] <Denise> 1gb?
[22:44] <Denise> ok
[22:44] <Shadowkllr> _mn_, it doesn't require it, but it makes life alot easier in the longrun
[22:44] <Denise> but the rest of space is very big
[22:45] <Denise> ok
[22:45] <_mn_> oh ok, well lemme throw down my computer specs right quick
[22:45] <Denise> and with dual booting u need absolutely a partition that windows can read?
[22:46] <Denise> I m adding a second hd
[22:46] <Denise> I thought i could maybe format it all in ext3
[22:46] <Denise> i read that fat32 was crap
[22:46] <Shadowkllr> windows can't read ext3
[22:46] <_mn_> 80 GB hdd, 1 GB ram, Intel processor 1.6 GHz, bus speed 800MHz (as well as I can remember, it hasn't arrived yet)
[22:46] <Denise> I know that
[22:47] <Denise> but if my new disk is only for linux?
[22:47] <Shadowkllr> let me rephrase that
[22:47] <_mn_> Denise, if you want Windows XP or Vista you can use NTFS
[22:48] <Denise> mine is less than that
[22:48] <Shadowkllr> windows can read ext3 if you use samba, but it can't naitively run off of it....and yes, you could use ntfs(preferred), and linux can run off of ntfs, but not very nicely, there is alot of stability issues with ntfs and linux
[22:49] <Denise> ok
[22:49] <Denise> so I could have only a partition in NTFS?
[22:49] <ign0ramus> shadowkllr: i've seen a lot of people suggest using 2x the amount of RAM for swap space.  But the more RAM you have, the less need there is for swap, correct?
[22:50] <BenPa85> can someone tell me, why all the guis for samba administration are not working on my kubuntu?
[22:50] <aidy> how do i import contacts from kopete to kontact?
[22:51] <Denise> I dont have ok 2.4Ghz for my cpu
[22:51] <ign0ramus> if you have 3GB of RAM, a 6GB swap will never be used fully.  It seems like a misallocation of resources...
[22:51] <Denise> and rram in 500 what is the unit
[22:51] <Denise> anyway half than urs
[22:52] <ign0ramus> Megabytes
[22:52] <Denise> and i have 32 bits not 64bits
[22:52] <Denise> Mbytes
[22:52] <Denise> ok
[22:52] <Denise> ok so as I dont have much ram
[22:52] <Denise> i need more swap?
[22:52] <rickest> ign0ramus: I think you're right.  It's 2 x RAM, "up to some reasonable maximum" which I don't remember
[22:53] <_mn_> So I need 40 GB allocated to Windows, 2GB (formatted as ext3?) as swap, 30 GB for the Linux OS, and 8 GB (for what?), right?
[22:53] <Shadowkllr> i would always recommend 2x, ign0r,  the reason being is think of 2 hard drives in a raid array setup.  when they are setup so that 2 drives are formatted to be one, what is happening when you transfer files across it is that one is running a calculation while the other is anticipating the next calculation that has to be made instead of waiting for the first one to complete the calculation,...
[22:53] <Shadowkllr> ...the second one has already done it
[22:53] <Denise> or the rule of 2 is a max?
[22:54] <Shadowkllr> no mn, swap" is a partition type, along with ext2, ext3, etc.
[22:54] <ign0ramus> shadowkllr: but swap doesn't work exactly like that, as RAM will always be preferred and is faster
[22:54] <Denise> hum
[22:54] <Denise> ok
[22:55] <Denise> I fomat it all in ext3 except one partition in FTFS?
[22:55] <ign0ramus> I have a 256MB swap partition and  1GB of RAM on the lappy, and swap is never more than 15-20% used, even under heavy apps running simultaneously
[22:56] <Shadowkllr> i know it doesn't work like that to max capacity, but i'll put it this way, having too much swap is better than having too little,  best way to test that is to run benchmarks on your memory cycles with gparted.  do something very complex that would use alot of ram to complete with 0 swap, then move it up in increments of 512mb, hey there we go, that would be a great thing to calculate
[22:57] <_mn_> from wikipedia: However, with the 2.6 Linux kernel, swap files are just as fast[8][9] as swap partitions, although Red Hat recommends using a swap partition.
[22:57] <Denise> they all recommend it
[22:57] <ign0ramus> Shadowkllr: I will agree with that.  But I haven't seen a use for 2GB+ of swap.  Maybe someone has, but even with video editing, web browsing, IRC, and torrenting, I have never fully used my swap
[22:58] <Denise> hum
[22:58] <Denise> ok and if I want to run like suse and kubuntu each one in a big partition
[22:59] <Denise> I need a swap in each subpartition?
[22:59] <Denise> and a home in two subpartition
[22:59] <Denise> ?
[23:00] <Denise> or the sawp is used for anyone?
[23:00] <Denise> how will it boot and use swap?
[23:01] <Shadowkllr> all those things you said ign0r, with the exception of videoediting, are very memory and cpu minimal processes.  (i'm not trying to hate, i swear!) But for example i'm running a lamp server right now, my box has to make much more difficult computations to output data, especially when it comes to mysql and php
[23:02] <ign0ramus> Shadowkllr: i understand totally.  i'm just wondering if anyone's ever needed like 5 or 6GB of swap.
[23:02] <rickest> google "linux recommended swap size".  There are 279.000 results, and about that many different answers  :)
[23:03] <Shadowkllr> i'm not sure.  I'm not an expert in the matter, but like i said, i doubt it could hurt, especially when hard drives are cheaper and bigger than ever
[23:03] <ign0ramus> I've read for laptops, swap > or = RAM for hibernation purposes.  But I don't use it, and I'm not sure if that's even true.
[23:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> the general recommended swap amount is 1.5x ram
[23:04] <Daisuke_Laptop> a little more or a little less won't hurt anything
[23:04] <Denise> is there only one swap by hdd ?
[23:04] <Denise> what if u install many Os?
[23:05] <Denise> hmm
[23:05] <Denise> silly question maybe
[23:05] <Denise> I will read and be less dummy
[23:05] <Shadowkllr> imho, linux on a laptop is kind of a waste unless you're dual booting.....had a friend all up in arms about how his laptop was cooler than mine because he was running solely ubuntu.......i pretty much crapped on his parade when I taught him about openssh and how I tunnel 1 port into many on my nix box at home
[23:05] <ign0ramus> I believe they can share a swap.... at least ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, etc can share a swap.  With a different distro, i'm not sure
[23:06] <ign0ramus> Shadowkllr: I don't see how Linux on a laptop is a "waste"...
[23:09] <l3x> hello.
[23:09] <Shadowkllr> Linux is more of a server OS than a desktop OS.....if i want a desktop OS i'll run windows.....if i need something that requires a server, such as the lamp server that I setup, i'll run it on a dedicated box that is on all the time and remote into it as I need
[23:10] <l3x> how do i change from gdm to kdm?
[23:10] <l3x> linux is what you want it to be!
[23:10] <l3x> windows is just rubbish
[23:11] <Shadowkllr> windows is only rubbish if you don't know how to properly set it up =P
[23:11] <Shadowkllr> does anyone smell smoke?
[23:11] <l3x> :) you can set it up as much as you want
[23:11] <Shadowkllr> i think i'm about to get flamed
[23:11] <Shadowkllr> =)
[23:11] <l3x> nooo man
[23:12] <ign0ramus> Shadowkllr: Gaming aside, I don't see many negatives for a Linux desktop... No flaming, I honestly am curious why you think that Linux on the desktop is so bad
[23:12] <l3x> no smoke here... windows is slower for me, my system broke it self a few days ago, and i now only have linux and i am glad...
[23:12] <ign0ramus> I think almost everyone will agree for servers, Linux is the best
[23:12] <l3x> i game on linux :)
[23:12] <l3x> i play deus ex now
[23:13] <ign0ramus> l3x: cedega?
[23:13] <l3x> nope wine at the moment
[23:13] <smatt454|afk> yes, on severs linux is God
[23:13] <ign0ramus> l3x: wine now has dx9 support, yes?
[23:14] <l3x> i do not know, i run dx7 :) deus ex is ooooold game but the best, so let's go
[23:14] <ign0ramus> There's rumors about Valve making Linux games, so that would be pretty nice
[23:15] <l3x> that woould be great.
[23:15] <l3x> funny thing is, my old games rub better on linux than on windows...
[23:16] <l3x> except... system shock 2, which freezes :( because of the movies between gameplay
[23:16] <ign0ramus> l3x: Looks like they plan on at least porting their games: http://blog.sillica.com/2008/05/30/valve-source-engine-to-hit-linux-soon/
[23:16] <Shadowkllr> windows runs very well when you cut down alot of the garbage they have packed into it.  Windows does, I agree, tend to break down more because programs easily install themselves without notice to the user, whereas linux will always ask for the root password.  my solution to this is that I am always logged in as both admin and a "restricted" user in windows and i can switch back and forth on...
[23:16] <Shadowkllr> ...the fly.
[23:17] <l3x> i like old games being ported on linux. new games are rubbish. all show and no go.
[23:17] <Shadowkllr> i do most of my work on the restricted user, but if i need to change something, i switch to the admin account without even logging off
[23:17] <l3x> i preffer less quality graphic, more quality story> hence deus ex, system shock 2 etc
[23:18] <l3x> Shadowkllr: on linux?
[23:18] <ign0ramus> Shadowkllr: I use XP on a daily basis at work, and I've never had a problem with it, but I know everything would run so much smoother if it were Linux
[23:18] <l3x> u run ubuntu...
[23:18] <samuel> Hey guysm whats shakin?
[23:18] <l3x> me 2. i work on xp. because i only have to log stuff in a web applet :)
[23:18] <l3x> and the company bought windows for some reason :)
[23:19] <samuel> So, is anyone new to this Linux thing?
[23:19] <Shadowkllr> but i also have a slight touch of ocd, and i format my system every 6 months or so to keep it running clean and smooth, backing up all my files to an external hd and i have automated installation scripts that will load all drivers in one shot for windows
[23:19] <l3x> guys, this is a stupid and endless fight. i mean windows vs linux, chocolate vs vanilla etc...
[23:19] <ign0ramus> Don't tell anyone, but I still keep a small Windows partition for things that require work-arounds in Linux, like printing and syncing my WM5 phone
[23:19] <samuel> IS that what this is?
[23:19] <samuel> A flameboy battle?
[23:20] <smatt454> hey it's okay
[23:20] <smatt454> i have a Vista box =P
[23:20] <l3x> i am going to buy a smartphone from my first salary ever in my life :)
[23:20] <Shadowkllr> lol i'm not fighting, i love linux as much as the next guy, i just prefer windows for some things
[23:20] <ign0ramus> nope.  just good conversation highlighting each person's own preferences.  you may not be used to that
[23:20] <l3x> which one is best to sync with linux?
[23:20] <l3x> symbian based?
[23:20] <samuel> I have a Vista box too, I am on it with a clean install if kubuntu
[23:21] <ign0ramus> l3x: look up "open moko"
[23:21] <smatt454> samuel: meaning u have vista on another partition, or u wiped it out?
[23:21] <samuel> I wiped it
[23:21] <l3x> i am in serbia. i cannot buy that :(
[23:21] <ign0ramus> oh :/
[23:21] <l3x> thinking somethin like nookia e61 or SE m600i
[23:21] <Shadowkllr> ign0r, do you have any experience with notepad++?
[23:22] <smatt454> eh, i like playing with the voice recognition
[23:22] <smatt454> ooo i love notepad++
[23:22] <l3x> i got that in TCUP :)
[23:22] <smatt454> not as much as i love kate
[23:22] <ign0ramus> l3x: Not much.  I don't program
[23:22] <samuel> What do you need for notepad ++?
[23:22] <smatt454> when i'm compiling programs in windows for my friends
[23:22] <ign0ramus> woops. i was answering Shadowkllr
[23:22] <smatt454> notepad++ gives me a better interface to code
[23:22] <smatt454> with
[23:22] <l3x> hehe
[23:22] <l3x> np
[23:23] <samuel> What do you need shadow?
[23:23] <snarkster> can any of you tell me why it takes so long for amarok to generate tag information using tunepimp
[23:23] <Shadowkllr> notepad++ does not natively support sftp, do you know of any plugins for it that do?
[23:23] <smatt454> i love kate though
[23:23] <joshuajtl_> hey what theme do you folks use on kde3 ? I can't find one i really like
[23:23] <l3x> please, does anyone have succesfully synced some smartphone with linux???
[23:23] <l3x> i wanna buy one, but dunno whoch one...
[23:23] <snarkster> i use my sidekick3 with linux but it doesnt actually synch
[23:23] <smatt454> l3x, try the ubuntu or kubuntu forums
[23:23] <ign0ramus> Shadowkllr: WinSCP?
[23:24] <l3x> okay
[23:24] <smatt454> also try google
[23:24] <smatt454> xD
[23:24] <Shadowkllr> l3x, no, but i have an ssh program on my phone and i can tap into my nix box at home from anywhere and restart it =P
[23:24] <ign0ramus> l3x: you *can* sync a Windows phone with Linux, but it's not as easy, and not all the features are there.
[23:24] <l3x> got to go to sleep mode now guys. i get up early to goto work...
[23:24] <Shadowkllr> ig, i just downloaded it, but i can't seem to reupload the files
[23:25] <l3x> i would rather have a symbian than win phone
[23:25] <ign0ramus> l3x: i gave up on it and kept a small Windows partition.  Also, being on an MSExchange server at work, XP works nicely
[23:25] <l3x> good night
[23:25] <ign0ramus> gnite
[23:25] <l3x> :)
[23:25] <samuel> I don't find the need to sync.  I just connect everything as an external drive and drag and drop.
[23:25] <joshuajtl_> anyone?
[23:25] <samuel> oppewhen you boot the device that needs the sd card, it will recognize everything you have dropped on it
[23:26] <ign0ramus> samuel: for emails, calendars, and contacts, syncing is a wonderful thing
[23:26] <samuel> still can just use drag and drop though
[23:26] <DreadKnight> off to sleep
[23:26] <samuel> drive transfer is faster than sync transfer also
[23:26] <ign0ramus> samuel: are you syncing to a WM phone?
[23:26] <smatt454> joshuajt1: i've tried using themes in the past but a lot of them mess things up
[23:27] <samuel> :0D
[23:27] <samuel> yes/home/samuel
[23:27] <samuel> damnit
[23:27] <samuel> i dont know why that is doing that
[23:27] <samuel> i hate touchpads
[23:27] <Shadowkllr> ok ign, when i "edit" a file using the text editor in winscp, (i'm connected to the nix box with it), i can edit the file, but i can't save it, it tries to reupload the file and says it cant...but if i hit delete, it deletes the file from the server then uploads it.....is that normal?
[23:29] <ign0ramus> Shadowkllr: dude, i honestly don't know...
[23:29] <kenwa> Has anyone had problems installing Java from adept manager? It didn't finish the install, and it stops at a certain % everytime i try to install it. I can't purge or uninstall it, and it always wants to update now....
[23:29] <ign0ramus> Shadowkllr: I've never actually used winscp, i just know *of* it
[23:30] <ghostcube> kenwa: u tried sudo apt-get -f install ?
[23:30] <joshuajtl_> what do you folks find is a very well made theme? (window/style)
[23:30] <Daisuke_Laptop> whatever looks good to you
[23:30] <ign0ramus> joshuajtl_: on kde-look.org, just look for popular/highest-rated themes
[23:30] <snarkster> i use cygwin to connect to my linux boxes when Im forced to use windows
[23:31] <kenwa> ghostcube: No, I will
[23:31] <Shadowkllr> oh, i figured it out, duh
[23:31] <ign0ramus> Shadowkllr: what was it?
[23:31]  * ign0ramus is curious now
[23:31] <ghostcube> u must set overwrite files or ?
[23:31] <Shadowkllr> i was just checking my openssh sftp settings, i had overwrite disabled
[23:32] <ign0ramus> Shadowkllr: haha :)
[23:32] <detective> hi all
[23:32] <Shadowkllr> shhhh....yes....i know....my shipment of fail has arrived....don't remind me
[23:32] <detective> i'm trying to build kde4. but kdesupp ERROR: Could not find KDE4 kde4-config
[23:32] <detective> Call Stack (most recent call first):
[23:32] <detective>   phonon/xine/kcm/CMakeLists.txt:2 (find_package)
[23:32] <detective> ort cmake gives an error :
[23:32] <Shadowkllr> whoah paste bin that ish, detective!
[23:33] <ign0ramus> !pastebin | detective
[23:33] <detective> i'm sorry
[23:33] <ghostcube> ok wastet 5 lines for 4 :D
[23:33] <Shadowkllr> ubottu to teh rescuez@
[23:33] <ign0ramus> !botsnack
[23:33] <detective> but for 3 lines? nah ok next time i will
[23:33] <Shadowkllr> ubottu do you know about the matrix?
[23:33] <Shadowkllr> lmao
[23:33] <Shadowkllr> ubottu is a god
[23:33] <ign0ramus> hahaha oh wow
[23:33] <ghostcube>  Could not find KDE4 kde4-config
[23:34] <kenwa> ghostcube: I have a license agreement screen but I can't choose OK.....
[23:34] <Shadowkllr> ubottu sudo apt-get install viruxoxolulz
[23:34] <ign0ramus> ghostcube: is there a reason you can use APT?
[23:34] <Shadowkllr> i love ubottu
[23:34] <ghostcube> kenwa: page down
[23:34] <ign0ramus> *can't
[23:34] <ghostcube> i love apt
[23:35] <kenwa> ghostcube: I am at the bottom.
[23:35] <Shadowkllr> i love ubottu, you can't have him!
[23:35] <dillon_> ahh! help! the newest nvidia driver borked my X setup!
[23:35] <ign0ramus> right arrow key
[23:35] <detective> KiDFlaSh: ping
[23:35] <Shadowkllr> ubottu doesn't love me anymore, he doesn't respond
[23:35] <KiDFlaSh> detective,
[23:35] <KiDFlaSh> :D
[23:35] <Shadowkllr> ok im done
[23:35] <Shadowkllr> =)
[23:35] <kenwa> Thanks ign0ramus
[23:35] <ghostcube> kenwa
[23:35] <ghostcube> :Q
[23:35] <ghostcube> damn
[23:35] <ghostcube> :q
[23:36] <ghostcube> and type yes
[23:36] <ign0ramus> kenwa: np
[23:36] <kenwa> lol i tried everything but the right arrow key
[23:36] <ghostcube> just normal vi behaviour
[23:36] <ghostcube> :D
[23:37] <dillon_> it says API error, i believe my old nvidia driver kernel is still prevailing over the new one, where is it located at in the filesystem so i can delete it?
[23:37] <dillon_> kernel module*
[23:37] <Shadowkllr> what's the diff between using sudo nano {file} and sudo kate {file}? is there any???
[23:37] <ghostcube> nano is an  terminal editor
[23:38] <ghostcube> kate is grafical
[23:38] <ign0ramus> nano edits in terminal
[23:38] <ign0ramus> yeah.
[23:38] <dillon_> Shadowkllr: kate has a gui whereas nano (by default anyways) doesn't
[23:38] <Shadowkllr> ok but so does kate....i use putty from my windows computer so everything is a terminal for me
[23:38] <ign0ramus> Shadowkllr: keyboard shortcuts
[23:39] <dillon_> does anybody know where the nvidia kernel module is located in the filesystem? i need to delete it i believe...
[23:39] <ghostcube> dillon_: u installed the first one manually too ?
[23:39] <ign0ramus> dillon_ You could always just blacklist the modprobing
[23:41] <dillon_> i'm not sure if i installed the first one maually or not
[23:41] <ghostcube> dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[23:41] <ghostcube> to nopaste.info
[23:46] <dillon_> ok when i try to start X in the terminal i get this error: API Mismatch: the nvidia kernel module has version 71.86.04, but this nvidia driver component has version 177.67
[23:47] <Shadowkllr> saaaaaweeeeet
[23:47] <Shadowkllr> i just got really excited
[23:48] <ghostcube> dillon_: sudo depmod -a
[23:48] <ign0ramus> dillon_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2433202&postcount=10
[23:48] <Shadowkllr> i figured out how to use notepad ++ as my default editor in winscp, and now i can still use all the great features of notepad++, and automatically upload them with winscp on filesave
[23:48] <ign0ramus> Shadowkllr: glad it works for you
[23:49] <snarkster> kate blows notepad ++ outta the water.
[23:49] <snarkster> textpad blows notepadd++ outta the water
[23:50] <ign0ramus> MS Works blows notepad++ outta the water!
[23:50] <ign0ramus> wait, what?
[23:51] <Shadowkllr> ....it's because of the boycott on the olympics, isn't it snark?? /snicker
[23:51] <atzefreak> is
[23:54] <othman390> salut tout le monde
[23:55] <rickest> elvis ftw
[23:55] <othman390> cava
[23:56] <rickest> !.fr
[23:58] <favro> nothing happens when I try to reprofile my bootup process - any clues?