[00:31] <e\ectro_> I loaded intrepid, but for some reason its not finding the nvidia driver.  IS there a new driver for xorg 1.5?  thanks.. I would google, but working elinks from a shell is somewhat challanging when you need it to work right away ;)
[01:18] <RAOF> e\ectro_: If you've got a card geforce4 or higher, you should be able to use the nvidia drivers; lower than that and the drivers don't supporte 1.5 yet.
[01:18] <RAOF> e\ectro_: nvidia-glx-1?? are the packages you're after.
[01:23] <e\ectro_> RAOF: thanks ;)
[01:25] <crdlb> RAOF: oh wow, I didn't realize nvidia did it _again_ :/
[01:35] <RAOF> crdlb: Oh, yes.  That's why there are now _4_ nvidia-glx packages in Intrepid.
[01:40] <crdlb> I was wondering when daniels made that remark about four drivers named nvidia_drv.so
[05:55] <Lunks> Firefox is segfaulting on me several times on a specific website
[07:18] <arpu> hi
[07:18] <arpu> how can i set the super key ?
[07:18] <arpu> on intrepid  mac book
[07:18] <arpu> in hardy i use xmodmap but this does not work in intrepid
[07:22] <nullack> gnome keyboard shortcuts?
[07:22] <Lunks> hmmm good to hear that, arpu
[07:23] <Lunks> Intrepid is not working with xmodmap?
[07:23] <Lunks> I don't have ?
[07:23] <Lunks> (that's question mark)
[07:23] <Lunks> so someone pointed me to find a tutorial about xmodmap and xev
[07:24] <nullack> System -> Preferences -? Keyboard shortcuts
[07:24] <arpu> nullack: hmm i need this on the console too
[07:25] <nullack> IDK about TTYs, recommend having a look on Intrepids version of X for solutions
[07:28] <arpu> hmm
[07:28] <arpu> can not found a solution
[07:31] <nullack> Or ask on the Ubuntu X mailing list?
[07:31] <Lunks> Trying xev/xmodmap right now
[07:31] <Lunks> man, there are some silly characters hidden on my keyboard I never thought of
[07:31] <Lunks> brb
[07:32] <Lunks> /?
[07:33] <Lunks> yey, it works!
[07:33] <Lunks> I put the solution on ~/.Xmodmap, how can I enable so it works even on login screen?
[07:35] <arpu> gnome should pick this file
[07:35] <arpu> Lunks:  hmm this works for you ?
[07:36] <Lunks> arpu: yes, xev showed me, followed a tutorial on net, everythings fine
[07:37] <arpu> xev ?
[07:39] <Lunks> arpu: xev, when on focus, shows which keycode you're using
[07:44] <arpu> ahh thx Lunks
[07:44] <arpu> the keycode changed
[07:51] <Lunks> arpu: yeah, it happened to my / key
[08:17] <Lunks> This theme will not look as intended because the required GTK+ engine is not installed
[08:18] <Finnish_> Anyone know about this: I bought a laptop, it has Windows Vista Premium. Is it 64 bit or 32 bit? Processor is Turion x2 RM-70, which is genuine 64 bit
[08:26] <LSD|Ninja> Finnish_: It should say whether you have teh 32 or 64 bit version in whatever passes for the System Properties on Vista now. Also, you have my condolences for being lumped with anAMD lappy ;)
[08:34] <Finnish_> LSD|Ninja: Heh, something wrong with AMD and laptop?
[08:34] <LSD|Ninja> Only that AMD have neve rbeen able to make a mobile chip worth a damn, ever
[08:34] <Finnish_> I'm about to install ubuntu on it of course, but I need windows on it for music programs
[08:35] <Finnish_> Hmmmm
[08:35] <Finnish_> Power management or what is wrong?
[08:36] <LSD|Ninja> Only time AMD mobile chips have ever looked half way respectable was when the Pentium 4s were infinitely worse
[08:39] <Finnish_> Hmmm, some articles say AMD RM-70 beats most (lowend) Intel C2D-CPUs
[08:59] <s0u][ight> hi guys
[09:05] <Lunks> I've got a mk-36 turion 64 and it's fine, thanks. :)
[09:07] <Lunks> battery lasts a lot and such.
[09:07] <Lunks> Finnish_: You can opt for 32 or 64bits, although each has some advantages over the other
[09:09] <LSD|Ninja> AMD could sue me and I still won't touch their crappy mobile products :)
[09:11] <Lunks> What's the big issue on mobile AMDs, LSD|Ninja?
[09:12] <LSD|Ninja> Centrino machines beat the pants off them in performance, power consumption and heat output
[09:13] <Finnish_> Thats just hard to believe
[09:13] <Lunks> My notebook is one of the best on heat output I've seen, and I've seen some many intel notebooks.
[09:13] <Finnish_> Lunks: But are those installed versions 32 or 64? Or can I choose it during install?
[09:14] <Lunks> Finnish_: I'm sorry, installed where?
[09:14] <Finnish_> Sorry, I was talking about Vista
[09:15] <Finnish_> I'm gonna install ubuntu on it, but I need also vista for some specific audio/video-stuff
[09:16] <Lunks> I don't get how come your vista being 32 or 64 should influence somehow on installing ubuntu
[09:17] <Finnish_> That's not the case...
[09:17] <Finnish_> I'm just wondering is the vista 32 or 64, nothing else
[09:17] <Lunks> Finnish_: win+pause/break, it'll tell
[09:18] <Lunks> but it's really not the channel to ask. ;)
[09:18] <LSD|Ninja> Finnish_: It should say which one you have in the System Properties like every other version of Windows. I told you that before.
[09:18] <LSD|Ninja> I just can't remember how you get to it in Vista
[09:18] <Finnish_> I get my laptop tomorrow, so no sneaking before that
[09:18] <Lunks> win+pause/break gets there since 2000
[09:20] <Lunks> to get things right, super+pause/break. :)
[09:32] <Lunks> Transmission web interface doesn't work at all =\
[10:09] <siimo> does xorg randomly crash for anybody?
[10:51] <Trewas> hehe, nice bug with thinkpad X41 in intrepid... brightness control goes _way_ darker than ever before and after going a couple of times from darkest/brightest it cannot get above the darkest setting (which is unreadable without a flashlight)
[10:52] <Trewas> well, a visit in the console seemed to fix it at least temporarily
[12:02] <siimo> hi anyone experencing random xorg crashes on ibex :/
[12:30] <Wellark> hi! does the live CD contain only packages from 'main'?
[12:31] <Wellark> and more so, is it too late to get completely new packages to main?
[12:32] <Hobbsee> yes, and no, but you'll need a very good reason, as space is very limited.
[12:32] <Wellark> yeah.. well I'm developing this thing called Mobile Broadband Configuration Assistant
[12:33] <Wellark> http://live.gnome.org/NetworkManager/MobileBroadband/
[12:33] <Wellark> basicly it's splitted to two packages
[12:34] <Wellark> libmbca and mobile-broadband-provider-info
[12:34] <Wellark> libmbca contains the assistant (GObject based, uses GtkAssistant)
[12:34] <Wellark> and the other package contains service provider database (only XML)
[12:35] <Wellark> Now the question is, is there still time to get these two packages included to intrepid live CD
[12:36] <Wellark> here's my PPA: https://launchpad.net/~kaijanmaki/+archive
[12:37] <Wellark> I've already talked to asac (ubuntu NM packager) and there should be no problem including the NM side bits
[12:38] <geser> Wellark: there is some time, but not that much. FeatureFreeze is on August 28th.
[12:39] <Wellark> yeah, I'm aware of that..
[12:39] <geser> and to get it into main, you need first get it into universe and then get it promoted to main
[12:39] <Wellark> OK.
[12:39] <Wellark> so main is out of question for intrepid then
[12:40] <geser> most probably yes
[12:40] <Wellark> so what does need to happen to get my packages to universe then?
[12:41] <Wellark> umm.. is it possible that even thouhg NM is in main, it's compiled to support addons from universe?
[12:42] <geser> would nm need packages from universe during build? if yes, then the answer is no
[12:42] <Wellark> if that would be optional?
[12:44] <Wellark> because I anticipated that my packages are not going to get to main and therefore the NM integration is implemented by dynamically loading the libmbca module if available
[12:44] <Wellark> but in order for NM to be able to load those modules it has to be compiled with libmbca support enabled
[12:44] <geser> as long as nm doesn't need some parts of it during build, it should be ok
[12:45] <Wellark> it does need them if the resulting binary is going to load the library
[12:46] <geser> main is self-contained and packages from main can't build-depend on something from universe
[12:46] <geser> to get it into universe see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Contributing#Preparing New Packages
[12:47] <geser> but as you got them to build in your PPA already, you're nearly at the point of uploading it to REVU
[12:48] <geser> the hard part is to get it reviewed in REVU as REVU seems to be very slow this time (few reviewers)
[12:48] <Wellark> yeah.. but the problem is that NM (or more precisely nm-applet) needs to have the support compiled in
[12:49] <geser> then you need to get it into main before nm can use it
[12:49] <Wellark> yeah.. NM is the only user this time...
[13:55] <vbabiy> Hey has any one been able to install the lastest alpha in virtual box
[14:30] <Ayabara_> If I build and install digikam 0.10 from source, how can I make sure that when a newer version hits the repos, it replaces my old one?
[14:35] <JontheEchidna> sudo make uninstall
[14:36] <JontheEchidna> that will remove your local from-source installation
[14:36] <JontheEchidna> then you can upgrade via apt
[14:36] <Ayabara_> JontheEchidna: and if I have already upgraded? make uninstall, then sudo apt-get reinstall?
[14:37] <JontheEchidna> That would work
[14:39] <Ayabara_> thanks
[14:57] <igormorgado> Hi there. ubuntu intrepid do not respect  my /etc/network/interfaces. Where is the new file to setup. What network tool want to mean about "prefix", why connections name is "auto eth0". (sorry i dont have quotation mark here =D)
[15:02] <igormorgado> is the prefix the netmask in cidr notation
[15:02] <igormorgado> indeed. it is
[15:59] <igormorgado> what is the splash manager used in intrepid
[16:01] <JontheEchidna> usplash?
[16:02] <igormorgado> JontheEchidna: ok. Just to know. Cause after I have upgraded from hardy to intrepid, my splash broke.
[16:02] <JontheEchidna> yeah, I think everybody's did
[16:02] <igormorgado> and some deamons are returning FAILED, cause they cannot update usplash.
[16:03] <igormorgado> right now I have apt-get update&upgrade and gnome broke. =D
[16:04] <igormorgado> no problem at all. Im just confused about the new network-manager. I dunno where it stores my network configuations. I can assure that isnt on network/interfaces.
[16:06] <igormorgado> going reboot
[16:27] <Lunks> splash broke for ya? what do you mean with 'broke'?
[16:48] <Lunks> I updated to Intrepid, but want to get heron version of subversion (so it doesn't break our repo)
[16:48] <Lunks> How can I do this?
[16:57] <dfgas> sorry to ask this in here, is there a way to disable fast user switching?
[17:33] <Hondo_Kitsune> any news on when the next alpha / first beta will be released?
[17:50] <Turno> anyone having trouble with alpha 4 in virtualbox?
[17:50] <Turno> i'm just tinkering at work, but both the desktop and alternate cds give me kernel panics as soon as i hit 'install'
[18:03] <Ayabara> Is 8.10 in a nice state today? I'm wondering if I should take the leap from 8.04 and make 8.10 my only system :)
[18:04] <SwedeMike> as far as I have understood from people trying it, it's still very much alpha
[18:06] <Ayabara> SwedeMike: ok, maybe I should take that as a warning :)
[18:06] <Turno> 8.04 does load fine in virtualbox, but 8.10 gets kernel panics
[18:53] <peanutb> has anyone else experienced woes with Network Manager dropping connections hour or so?
[20:04] <flithm> hey everyone... I just installed intrepid -- looks nice! -- i'm curious though, when I go to install kde it gives me a missing package error... my bad, or something awry?
[20:04] <flithm> anyone know?
[20:23] <flithm> hey everyone... I just installed intrepid -- looks nice! -- i'm curious though, when I go to install kde it gives me a missing package error... my bad, or something awry?
[20:24] <PolitikerALT> IMHO Kde is rather broken at the moment - I can't even start it correctly (plasma crashes)
[20:26] <peanutb> PolitikerALT: after an upgrade, i can start KDE, but its its usual buggy self
[20:27] <peanutb> and network manager flakes out
[20:27] <flithm> good to know
[20:27] <PolitikerALT> hmm ... I think I'll reinstall plasma
[20:27] <flithm> :)
[20:28] <PolitikerALT> Network Manager works fine for me
[20:28] <peanutb> i donno
[20:28] <peanutb> ohh
[20:28] <peanutb> that was the problem
[20:28] <PolitikerALT> ?
[20:28] <peanutb> there were no title bars ont he windows
[20:29] <peanutb> which made kde rather unusable
[20:29] <PolitikerALT> have you tried manually starting the window manager?
[20:34] <peanutb> PolitikerALT: no i havent tried anything. I needed to get something done
[20:35] <Laney> Are there any terrible bugs in the Ibex atm that would mean I shouldn't upgrade?
[20:35] <peanutb> im going over to kde now
[20:35] <peanutb> Laney: not that i have found
[20:35] <PolitikerALT> at least metacity --replace should work
[20:35] <Laney> peanutb: Good good
[20:35] <peanutb> PolitikerALT: metacity isint used in kde
[20:36] <PolitikerALT> I know, but if nothing other works - metacity should work
[20:36] <peanutb> okay
[20:36] <peanutb> ill try it
[20:36] <PolitikerALT> hmm ... I don't think it's ready for everyday use yet - I got a bug with firefox/swfdec: Many windows open and in firefox/adobeflash sound doesn't work
[20:37] <PolitikerALT> maybe kwin --replace could do it too
[20:44] <peanutb> hmm
[20:44] <peanutb> the metacity thing worked
[20:44] <peanutb> but plasma has always had problems on this computer
[20:45] <peanutb> PolitikerALT: flash sound doesnt work in hardy either... at least well
[20:48] <PolitikerALT> On my computer, plasma crashes as soon as I want to start it - in hardy, plasma didn't crash as long as I didn't change anything. In hardy, youtube sound worked rather well for me - or was I using swfdec? - Then the many-little-windows-appearing-bug didn't exist at least
[20:48] <PolitikerALT> Swfdec is fine for most purposes I think
[20:51] <Ayabara> Is there a way I can find the build dependencies for digikam-kde4 on 8.10 even though I'm running 8.04?
[21:13] <lbt> so I'm doing a netinstall of 8.10 from a usb stick with unetbootin. Partitioning OK (20Gb xfs /). The installing base system failed (twice) with "initscripts: depends lsb-base >=3.2.14 but 3.2-14ubuntu1 is to be installed..... how do I resolve this? (and is this the right place?)
[21:19] <_debg_> hi . I just upgraded the intrepid installation and the wireless stopped working .
[21:20] <Scorcher> the intrepid install is all jacked up, wiat for the offical release in oct
[21:20] <Scorcher> 24th
[21:20] <_debg_> I have a atheros card on my laptop.
[21:21] <_debg_> ok . I was already using it and the wireless worked . just today's update caused the problem .
[21:22] <thefish> is there a way to get kprinter in kubuntu 810?
[21:23] <_debg_> I use cups .. and it works fine . httplocalhost:631
[21:23] <_debg_> http://localhost:631
[21:26] <thefish> crossover office wants to use the "kde print system"
[21:26] <thefish> ie kprinter
[21:46] <|dupondje|> cannot install newest 'initscripts' ?
[21:46] <_debg_> I guess the dependent package is not yet updated .
[21:49] <|dupondje|> and NetworkManager is a bug on its own :s
[21:49] <|dupondje|> really nothing works :p
[21:52] <_debg_> Network Manager worked for me with all wireless as well .. before today's update ..,
[21:52] <|dupondje|> static ip settings get lost
[21:52] <|dupondje|> after every reboot :(
[22:30] <Laney> Hmm. Did gnome-terminal lose the options to configure shortcut keys for switching tabs?
[22:46] <WDC> Oh hai
[22:48] <crdlb> Laney: yes :/
[22:49] <Laney> crdlb: Bah. Was there any discussion about it that you know of? Is it coming back?
[22:54] <crdlb> Laney: I'm looking on gnome's bugzilla
[22:54] <crdlb> but it's crawling
[22:55] <Laney> crdlb: Alright cool. Let me know if you find anything!
[22:57] <crdlb> oh, that's dumb ...
[22:58] <crdlb> you need to enable '/desktop/gnome/interface/can_change_accels' in gconf
[22:58] <crdlb> then you change the binding by hovering over the menu item in the Tabs menu
[23:06] <crdlb> but that doesn't persist :/