zul | tacone: yep | 00:28 |
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tacone | nothing, I wrote to you on the ml, about the apache thingie. | 00:28 |
tacone | I am not anymore sure it wasn't our fault though. | 00:29 |
vladdY | can someone help to install ubuntu server with software raid1 please | 02:21 |
vladdY | i still couldnt do it, after 6+ hours | 02:21 |
wantok | took me a while to figure out too. | 02:22 |
vladdY | is there any tutorial/guide, im kinda linux noob too "/ | 02:23 |
wantok | on help.ubuntu.com is the server guide | 02:23 |
vladdY | i looked but there's nothing on Raid1 | 02:24 |
wantok | different raids use all the same steps | 02:24 |
wantok | just you need to seelct raid1 not raid[other] at the right moment | 02:24 |
sommer | vladdY: you can try the instructions in the develpment version of the serverguide: http://doc.ubuntu.com/~mdke/test/serverguide/C/advanced-installation.html | 02:26 |
vladdY | sommer: this is very useful link, thanks | 02:28 |
sommer | vladdY: cool, if you have any feedback concerning the guide please let me know | 02:29 |
jmedina | sommer: did you write the kerberos section? | 02:33 |
sommer | jmedina: yeppers | 02:33 |
sommer | it's new for intrepid as well | 02:33 |
jmedina | sommer: you know how easy is use openldap as a database backend for MIT? | 02:34 |
jmedina | I've been working with heimdall and I think it is best documented, and afaik, samba4 works with heimdall | 02:34 |
sommer | jmedina: I haven't actually done that yet, but it's on my todo list if there's time | 02:34 |
sommer | jmedina: from the quick look I took at it a while back, it doesn't seem too complicated | 02:35 |
* jmedina hates time | 02:35 | |
sommer | jmedina: add the schema file, add the kerberos attributes to the users, configure the kdc to use ldap... boom :) | 02:35 |
jmedina | sommer: pretty easy.... | 02:36 |
jmedina | :P | 02:36 |
sommer | well in theory, heh | 02:36 |
jmedina | the instructions for heimdal http://www.h5l.org/manual/heimdal-1-2-branch/info/heimdal.html#Using-LDAP-to-store-the-database | 02:38 |
jmedina | sommer: any reason to choose mit? | 02:38 |
sommer | jmedina: mit is in main... so for the "official" docs we try to stick to packages in main, where possible anyway | 02:40 |
sommer | jmedina: I did some testing with heimdal, it is slightly simpler to setup and configure | 02:40 |
jmedina | ok | 02:41 |
vladdY | sommer: thanks again for that link, it helped a lot, i think i got it running | 02:53 |
vladdY | is there any easier way to test to make sure it works other than unplugging hd from motherboard :) | 02:53 |
vladdY | hm, raid1 ubuntu server won't start if i unplug one of the hard drives, computer is stuck in "verifying DMI pool data" | 03:22 |
vladdY | hm, i know im probably boring but have to ask | 03:32 |
vladdY | how can i Setup so that the other partition(disk) is bootable too using ubuntu server on raid1 | 03:32 |
sommer | vladdY: are you running hardy? | 03:33 |
vladdY | 8.04 | 03:33 |
vladdY | i honestly dont know which version is that | 03:33 |
sommer | vladdY: 8.04 is the latest... this howto may help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID | 03:33 |
sommer | vladdY: you can probably start at the "Adding GRUB to 2nd drive" section | 03:34 |
sommer | the issue is being worked on for Intrepid, so in the future you won't have to go through the extra steps | 03:35 |
vladdY | sommer: thanks again :) | 03:37 |
vladdY | so, if I disconnect one hd, it should run from another one, correct or is there something I have to do (restore mbr or....) | 03:38 |
sommer | vladdY: I guess, once you've installed grub on the second hard drive and added the script to the initramfs, it should work fine | 03:39 |
sommer | vladdY: I've never actually used those instructions, so it's probably a good idea to test things before putting the machine into production | 03:40 |
vladdY | sommer: ok, thank you very much for all your help | 03:40 |
sommer | vladdY: np | 03:41 |
nodoubt | why would ports.conf in etc/apache2 be empty in pico/vi but have data/characters in the file when opened in desktop environment gedit?? | 03:55 |
michalski | does anyone know where i can find iptables config? | 04:06 |
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maswan | Do I win a prize for storing ~56k copies of ubuntu-8.04.1-server-amd64.iso in a tape library? :) | 07:39 |
maswan | just in case it gets lost, I mean | 07:39 |
kraut | moin | 08:13 |
uvirtbot` | New bug: #259363 in apache2 (main) "Need to source envvars before being able to use 'apache2' binary." [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259363 | 12:56 |
trentster | hey all, I have the strangest problem, having extremely poor network performance slowdown when copying to an NFS NAS volume, will get a peak of 20-30MBps then almost no activity for about 40 seconds then another little peak. I have tried putting in an intel pro1000 network card, cable change etc, still same problem. However if I boot off the live cd and try the same thing I get a sustained 55MBps working perfectly....any i | 13:14 |
trentster | deas? | 13:14 |
thefish | trentster: you boot the client that is copying the data with livecd, or the server? maybe compare nfs client versions and options? | 13:17 |
trentster | thefish, the client I booted the livecd on. | 13:18 |
trentster | the server is actually a dedicated NAS appliance server | 13:19 |
thefish | i guess you mount the nfs dir and then copy? maybe the mount options are a bit different? or the client version? | 13:20 |
trentster | naah the mount options are identical | 13:21 |
trentster | I think the versions of nfs are the same as well, I will double check.. | 13:21 |
trentster | I think something else on the machine is interfering with it. | 13:21 |
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thefish | trentster: what are you using for the copy? just cp? | 13:34 |
trentster | thefish, yes | 13:35 |
trentster | just cp | 13:35 |
thefish | trentster: sorry, not sure - i have seen it where a gui file manager eg nautilus will be really slow, and cp will be fast | 13:36 |
thefish | no iptables or anything like that? | 13:36 |
trentster | thefish, no iptables | 13:37 |
trentster | its a very strange one | 13:37 |
thefish | have you seen http://www.unix.com.ua/orelly/networking_2ndEd/nfs/ch18_01.htm | 13:38 |
thefish | maybe some bits in there that could help | 13:38 |
thefish | please say what fixes it ;) | 13:39 |
trentster | thefish, thanks I will let you know......I am busy getting ready to test via FTP to see if its def NFS related only or a general problem. | 13:41 |
thefish | fair enough | 13:41 |
trentster | wow, its slow on ftp as well getting 6MBps | 13:43 |
trentster | it starts off super fast 50MBPS for 3-4 secs.....then slow....allmost like a buffering problem or something. | 13:43 |
ogra | did you check your NIC with mii-diag ? on both setups you test ? | 13:46 |
ogra | migh be that one runs in full and the other in half duplex | 13:47 |
trentster | thanks for the help guys, gonna reboot and try continue troubleshooting | 13:51 |
cxo_ | erichammond1, so dist-upgrade = kernel upgrade? | 14:32 |
kirkland | zul: do you have time today to sponsor some init script changes? | 14:57 |
kirkland | zul: the status action stuff | 14:57 |
zul | kirkland: sure | 14:58 |
zul | kirkland: just send me the list and I will get to them today sometime | 14:59 |
kirkland | zul: okay, will do | 14:59 |
thefish | !seen [diablo] | 15:01 |
ubottu | I have no seen command | 15:01 |
thefish | bugger | 15:01 |
nealmcb | Server team meeting in #ubuntu-meeting in 30 minutes: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ServerTeam/Meeting | 15:32 |
nealmcb | There is still time to propose another item for discussion.... | 15:32 |
Oliber | will there be tea and coffee? | 15:34 |
* Oliber runs away ;) | 15:34 | |
nealmcb | Oliber: Yes - but it will be distributed tea and coffee - just like our source control :) | 15:35 |
ScottK-laptop | The good news is the Ubuntu wiki is so slow if makes bzr feel fast in comparison. | 15:35 |
nealmcb | with pockets of milk, cookies, water and other beverages that fit the local culture and timezone | 15:35 |
soren | ScottK-laptop: You think? Hm... It feels pretty snappy to me. | 15:36 |
ScottK-laptop | Which the wiki or bzr? | 15:37 |
soren | I mean the wiki. | 15:37 |
ScottK-laptop | I'm editing. | 15:37 |
soren | editmoin or web? | 15:38 |
ScottK-laptop | Web. | 15:38 |
soren | Ah. Wouldn't know about that. | 15:38 |
* soren <3 editmoin | 15:38 | |
ScottK-laptop | Well right now every time I go to the meeting page it wants me to login. | 15:39 |
ScottK-laptop | I login and it takes me to the main page. | 15:39 |
ScottK-laptop | I go to the meeting page it wants me to login. | 15:39 |
ScottK-laptop | Rinse repeat. | 15:39 |
soren | Which browser? | 15:39 |
ScottK-laptop | So it's faster now. | 15:39 |
ScottK-laptop | Konqueror. | 15:39 |
* ScottK-laptop tries another one. | 15:40 | |
ScottK-laptop | Works in Firefox. | 15:41 |
zul | nijaba: mirror? | 16:13 |
kirkland | nijaba: i added the debconf entry to mdadm, at "medium" priority. this will not popup during the installer, and will set the default to "no" | 16:13 |
kirkland | nijaba: it would be trivial to raise the priority to make it popup the question, however, that might need more of a consensus | 16:14 |
kirkland | nijaba: i would be very much in favor of that | 16:14 |
kirkland | nijaba: but i left that part of the patch for later, so as not to embargo the rest of the functionality | 16:14 |
nijaba | kirkland: my question was more whether the default Raid1 install would duplicate /boot on both disk now | 16:15 |
kirkland | nijaba: oh, the MBR ... yes, it should | 16:16 |
nijaba | kirkland: great | 16:16 |
kirkland | nijaba: the code is there, but it hasn't made it into an ISO yet, so I haven't tested it | 16:16 |
kirkland | nijaba: I tested it "by hand", but not "by ISO" :-) | 16:16 |
nijaba | kirkland: let me know when it is there, I'll give it a go as well | 16:16 |
ScottK-laptop | arakthor: Let me get you some links. | 16:16 |
arakthor | ScottK-laptop, ok | 16:16 |
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ScottK-laptop | arakthor: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClamavSpamassassinInMain is the basic spec that lists the MIR that need to be done. | 16:18 |
arakthor | what is a MIR? | 16:19 |
soren | MainInclusionReport | 16:19 |
ScottK-laptop | Main Inclusion Report. | 16:19 |
ScottK-laptop | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MainInclusionProcess describes the process. | 16:19 |
leonel | ScottK-laptop: as I've told you some time ago I'd like to do the clamav MIR is there a deadline time to do so ?? | 16:19 |
ScottK-laptop | This is how we get stuff 'promoted' to be supported. | 16:19 |
ScottK-laptop | leonel: We need it approved prior to Aug 29. | 16:20 |
ScottK-laptop | This would be a good time to work on them. | 16:20 |
ScottK-laptop | arakthor: Were you interested in Spamassassin too or just Clamav? | 16:20 |
leonel | wow 10 days | 16:20 |
ScottK-laptop | Yes. | 16:20 |
* ScottK-laptop notes he's been asking for help for weeks. | 16:20 | |
arakthor | ehm, either or. I'm more interested in lending a hand and seeing how it goes | 16:20 |
ScottK-laptop | arakthor: OK. The Spamassassin ones are almost all Perl modules. They tend to be relatively easy. | 16:21 |
ScottK-laptop | And leonel is going to work on clamav anyway. | 16:21 |
arakthor | alright | 16:21 |
ScottK-laptop | arakthor and leonel: Please mark in the wiki what you are working on so there is no duplication of effort. | 16:21 |
arakthor | ScottK, alright. I will probably use another handle, kstewart, because I have it registered on launchpad ettc. | 16:22 |
ScottK-laptop | OK. | 16:22 |
leonel | ScottK-laptop: ok | 16:22 |
ScottK-laptop | I need to leave in about 5 minutes, so if you have questions, please ask them now. I'll be back in a few hours. | 16:23 |
ScottK-laptop | I'm glad to review work in progress or answer questions. | 16:23 |
leonel | ScottK-laptop: will you be online tomorrow ? | 16:23 |
ScottK-laptop | Yes. Most of the day. | 16:23 |
leonel | ScottK-laptop: ok I'll contact you | 16:23 |
arakthor | no questions atm, thanks. | 16:24 |
ScottK-laptop | Great. | 16:25 |
byte_slave | hi everyone! | 17:04 |
byte_slave | anyone here using heirloom.mailx the new "nail" to send emails from command line / cron? | 17:04 |
byte_slave | i've a script that executes "nail command" with no problem via commandline but via cron the email just doesn't go to the destiny recipients, and it produces the dead.letter | 17:07 |
byte_slave | anyone experienced this before? | 17:07 |
jmedina | byte_slave: any cron log? | 17:08 |
byte_slave | cron log just says "Aug 19 16:55:01 elsa /USR/SBIN/CRON[4588]: (root) CMD (/root/scripts/est_disk_space_monitor.pl)" | 17:09 |
byte_slave | no reference about any error or access denied or whatelse | 17:09 |
Fenix|work | Greetings! | 17:09 |
byte_slave | hi! | 17:09 |
Fenix|work | I have a question I'd like to prose. I've recently upgraded from Gutsy to Hardy, and my ftp user disappeared from /etc/passwd. Why would that happen? | 17:10 |
Fenix|work | byte_slave, how's it going? | 17:10 |
byte_slave | Fenix|work, not that good actually, nail just doesn't work sending email via cron.... | 17:11 |
Fenix|work | nail? or mail? | 17:12 |
Fenix|work | I guess they're both the same thing :) | 17:13 |
Fenix|work | google tells me nail is a replacement for mailx | 17:13 |
jmedina | byte_slave: and why nail instead clasic mailx? | 17:14 |
byte_slave | i heard nice things about nail, and its simple to setup and supports smtp | 17:16 |
byte_slave | mail doesn't as far as i know | 17:16 |
Fenix|work | byte_slave, what are you trying to accomplish? | 17:17 |
byte_slave | well, simple... a perl script goes check disk space and if space lower than x% i receive an email | 17:17 |
byte_slave | manually script runs perfectly | 17:17 |
byte_slave | via cron not working | 17:17 |
byte_slave | cron is running the script as root | 17:18 |
byte_slave | should work i guess | 17:18 |
Fenix|work | are you using mail in your script? | 17:20 |
byte_slave | im using NAIL | 17:20 |
jmedina | byte_slave: mail doesnt what? | 17:20 |
jmedina | support smtp? | 17:20 |
Fenix|work | byte_slave, I understand NAIL will alias mail and mailx when you install for backwards compatability | 17:20 |
Fenix|work | compatibility | 17:20 |
byte_slave | no alias, NAIL is a very cool comamndline tool | 17:21 |
byte_slave | jmedina, i guess not, but anyway i guess to have mail working i should have a "full MTA" working and with "NAIL solution" i found i just use NAIL + msmtp | 17:22 |
jmedina | byte_slave: that is not true | 17:23 |
jmedina | you can use mailx +ssmtp | 17:23 |
jmedina | ssmtp it has support for SMTP AUTH, so you can send mail trough a mail relay host (smarthost) | 17:23 |
gsalah | hello all, i have installed pptp vpn server, but vpn-clients use my DNS server to resolve anything instead of their server | 17:24 |
byte_slave | maybe i was making confusion about "SMTP AUTH" which is actually what i need | 17:24 |
Fenix|work | jmedina, nail is heirloom-mailx in the package tree no? | 17:25 |
* Abron_Gru is back (gone 18:01:01) | 17:25 | |
jmedina | Fenix|work: dont know, last time I used nail was in slackware about 3 years ago | 17:26 |
byte_slave | nail is now known as heirloom-mailx, thats true | 17:26 |
Fenix|work | used nail with gentoo, but I don't have a preference... I just install mailutils and everything works | 17:27 |
Fenix|work | or mail-utils, can't remember which connotation | 17:27 |
byte_slave | but mailutils installs exim right?= | 17:27 |
Fenix|work | byte_slave, just portions of it... not the full blown exim | 17:27 |
byte_slave | i'll try use mailx..... i'll remove nail and see what happens | 17:28 |
vladdY | i still cant get Raid1 to run properly, after I unplug one disk I'm unable to boot into ubuntu server | 17:35 |
vladdY | i have followed everything from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID#Troubleshooting | 17:35 |
vladdY | any clue | 17:35 |
Brazen | vladdY: this has been discussed lately on the mailing list. Apparently, linux will not boot to a degraded RAID array. | 17:40 |
Brazen | your information is safe, but you will have to boot to a live CD and rebuild the array before you can boot back into it. | 17:40 |
Brazen | I haven't followed it too close though, as I've only used software raid to protect data drives, and never tried it for the /boot or root partitions. | 17:41 |
Brazen | I believe they are trying to get this patched in the kernel before the next Ubuntu release | 17:42 |
jmedina | Brazen: he doesnt need to rebuild the raid, only install grub in the mirror disk | 17:43 |
jmedina | well and rebuild initramfs | 17:43 |
ScottK-laptop | arakthor: I'm here briefly if you've come up with any questions. | 17:45 |
Brazen | Wouldn't grub already be installed in the mirrored partition? Like I said, I didn't follow the issue too closely. | 17:45 |
ScottK-laptop | Brazen: You only boot from one, so no. | 17:46 |
arakthor | ScottK-laptop, what6's involved in the source code review? | 17:47 |
arakthor | ScottK-laptop, also, should I start with a dependency of SA or just the SA package? | 17:47 |
ScottK-laptop | arakthor: Review it for sound security practices. If you aren't up for that, just say no. It's not a hard requirement. | 17:47 |
ScottK-laptop | Do the dependencies first. | 17:47 |
arakthor | ok, thanks. | 17:48 |
ScottK-laptop | That way when SA gets done the answer to are all the depends in Main will be yes. | 17:48 |
uvirtbot` | New bug: #259477 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 (main) "mailx should not be Recommends" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259477 | 17:55 |
* ScottK-laptop runs to mark that confirmed. | 17:56 | |
vladdY | do you guys have any reference to that mailing list thread on booting from degraded raid1 | 18:20 |
vladdY | also, forgot to mention, this is software raid too, running on 2 disks | 18:21 |
jmedina | Brazen: did you try those instructions? | 18:27 |
jmedina | from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID | 18:27 |
ivoks | hi all | 18:28 |
ivoks | zul: ping? :) | 18:28 |
sommer | ivoks: yo | 18:30 |
ivoks | wazup? :) | 18:30 |
sommer | same old, same old... good times, heh | 18:31 |
zul | ivoks: yo | 18:31 |
ivoks | nice | 18:31 |
ivoks | zul: yeah... um... those bacula bugs | 18:31 |
ivoks | zul: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/16211559/bacula-2.debdiff | 18:31 |
zul | ivoks: uploaded that this morning | 18:31 |
ivoks | zul: that's a patch for bacula in -proposed | 18:31 |
ivoks | in intrepid, right | 18:32 |
ivoks | but how about hardy? | 18:32 |
zul | and in hardy-proposed | 18:33 |
ivoks | that patch solves SRU problems | 18:33 |
ivoks | ok | 18:33 |
zul | its sitting there waiting to be accepted | 18:33 |
uvirtbot` | New bug: #259479 in php5 (main) "php5 crashed with SIGSEGV in _Unwind_ForcedUnwind()" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259479 | 18:56 |
vladdY | can someone please confirm that solution from https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID works | 19:24 |
ivoks | let' see | 19:27 |
ivoks | vladdY: yes | 19:28 |
_jmedina | vladdY: why dont you ask kirkland, I think he wrote the doc and he is working on that theme for intrepid inclusion | 19:29 |
vikram | Is there a static version of bash and friends i can use on ubuntu server? | 20:11 |
vikram | or at least anything not linked against libselinux | 20:11 |
vikram | trying to apt-get remove libselinux looks really scary since it tries to pull everything out | 20:12 |
ivoks | why would you remove it? | 20:12 |
ivoks | selinux isn't enabled on ubuntu, by default | 20:13 |
ivoks | applications are compiled with support for it, if someone decides to enable it | 20:13 |
vikram | i know, i just dont want a userspace with libselinux support for it | 20:13 |
vikram | is there a version of ubuntu with a clean userspace? | 20:14 |
ivoks | then you'll need to recompile... everything :) | 20:14 |
ivoks | clean userspace? | 20:14 |
ivoks | what's clean? | 20:14 |
vikram | just libc and libssl/tls, the basics | 20:15 |
ivoks | bash is clean :) | 20:16 |
ivoks | you know libc can be compiled with support for lots of things, so having only libc isn't a guaranatee that something is clean, whatever that means | 20:18 |
zul | or your could use gentoo ;) | 20:19 |
zul | whois vikram | 20:19 |
zul | doh.. | 20:19 |
ivoks | :) | 20:19 |
ivoks | i don't think gentoo is clean | 20:20 |
ivoks | anyway... take care... | 20:20 |
vikram | zul, i is who i is | 20:39 |
uvirtbot` | New bug: #259538 in samba (main) "computer reboots during winbind configuration" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259538 | 20:50 |
AlexC_ | hey, | 21:00 |
AlexC_ | I have my main domain that I use for the server, eg: example.com and with that I have mail.example.com that is used for all email. Other domains, say 'domain.com' are hosted there and all email is sent and received via 'mail.example.com' - though the email addresses are still 'foo@domain.com'. I'm wondering if I have to set an MX record for the 'domain.com' zone that points to 'mail.example.com' | 21:03 |
ScottK | Yes. | 21:04 |
AlexC_ | I currently don't set this, and it works fine. The reason I use mail.example.com instead of mail.domain.com for all other domains is that I use SSL/TSL for it, and so the certificate only covers mail.example.com | 21:04 |
ScottK | In the absence of an MX record, one is supposed to try and deliver to the A. | 21:05 |
ScottK | If it's all on the same box it'll work. | 21:05 |
AlexC_ | ScottK, ok, so before I was basically relying on an undocumented feature/correction thingy, and I should really set the MX record for it? | 21:05 |
ScottK | I do not, however, recommend relying on the implicit MX rule. | 21:05 |
AlexC_ | ok, that's what I thought - I'll make sure I set it now | 21:06 |
ScottK | It's documented in RFC 821 and 2821, it's just not something I'd be so certain people get right that I rely on it. | 21:06 |
AlexC_ | true | 21:06 |
_jmedina | AlexC_ it is a good practice to use MX record for every domain, not all the MTA out there know how to act when they can't find a MX record | 21:06 |
AlexC_ | thanks very much ScottK _jmedina | 21:07 |
_jmedina | Alexc_ and your config is ok for SSL/TLS and single IP with multi domains | 21:08 |
_jmedina | the same when you use SPF | 21:08 |
AlexC_ | wont it complain that the cert is for a different domain? | 21:09 |
_jmedina | when? | 21:10 |
vladdY | just wanted to say that | 21:10 |
AlexC_ | if I used mail.domain.com instead of mail.example.com | 21:10 |
vladdY | oops | 21:10 |
AlexC_ | since the SSL cert is for mail.example.com | 21:10 |
vladdY | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID does work, thank you very much for great work on ubuntu server | 21:11 |
vladdY | and for support :) | 21:11 |
_jmedina | vladdY: so what was the problem? | 21:12 |
vladdY | i dont know, i think i didn't wait 180 seconds :) | 21:13 |
vladdY | just did clean reinstall, switched it few times back and forth disconnecting each hd and worked everytime | 21:13 |
ScottK | _jmedina: He's right. Most MUAs will warn for that. | 21:14 |
vladdY | i was able to rebuild array and everything worked without any problems, including postgresql | 21:14 |
_jmedina | ScottK_ the he needs to setup MUAs with mail.example.com or whatever the cert's CN says | 21:15 |
ScottK | Right, so it's less complex if he just uses that for everything. | 21:16 |
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kirkland | sommer: _jmedina and vladdyy are asking about a RAID document above | 23:33 |
kirkland | sommer: it's incorrectly attributed to me... I didn't write it :-) | 23:33 |
kirkland | sommer: though I've written a lot of patches on the matter lately | 23:34 |
pschulz01 | What is the difference between mailx and mailutils? | 23:48 |
pschulz01 | (In terms of functionality) | 23:49 |
pschulz01 | wantok: Morning | 23:52 |
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