[00:00] Ideally. [00:00] (reality is a little suboptime lhere) [00:00] no sound on my eeepc [00:00] suboptimal [00:00] installed xubuntu [00:00] zr: how did you check for sound? [00:01] How about /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults? Can I add arbitrary entries and have them show up? [00:01] bhall_: I think these are only created when the user account is created [00:01] bhall_: not sure though [00:01] bhall_: read the spec [00:01] (say COURSE_DIR=/my/path/to/course_directories or something?) [00:02] Ok. Thanks for the help. At least I know where to read now. [00:02] bhall_: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/basedir-spec [00:03] ahm, sorry, that's not the one [00:05] Thanks, I think I can get it from here. I really appreciate the help. [00:06] TheSheep: alsamixer [00:06] TheSheep: all levels are ok [00:06] TheSheep: audacious seems to play the music [00:07] but no sound comes out [00:10] zr: is it a mp3? [00:10] zr: did you install the codecs? [00:10] i use an ogg to test [00:11] firefox flash doesnt play sound either [00:11] zr: I assume there is no physical volume control? :) [00:11] zr: like some knb or something [00:11] knob [00:11] TheSheep: nopes [00:12] TheSheep: before you ask, i'm not deaf either [00:12] does 'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp' produce noise? [00:12] nne at all [00:12] hold on [00:13] nopes [00:13] heh, made me hold my breath :) [00:13] crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2008-08-18 23:42 /dev/dsp [00:13] i belong to the audio group [00:13] looks correct [00:14] root doesnt hear audio either [00:14] yeah, you would get an error message if you didn't have rights there [00:15] and all channels are unmuted in alsamixer? [00:15] of course [00:15] dmesg | tail shows anything interesting? [00:16] nopes [00:16] * TheSheep is out of ideas [00:16] I will then cry a thousand tears of sorrow [00:16] almost looks like physically disconnected speakers XD [00:16] * zr weeps bitterly [00:17] i have a laptop [00:17] but that's not likely [00:17] do you get any sound if you connect headphones? [00:17] n [00:17] o [00:22] hey [00:23] can somebody please help me with a hardware issue? I just installed Xubuntu onto my Mom's old laptop, and the ethernet is not being recognized. [00:24] I also tried a usb-based wifi, but it's not being recognized either [00:25] can somebody please help? [00:27] do you get anything when you do dmesg | grep eth [00:27] let me give it a try. one sec [00:28] (Looking for something like: [ 71.462925] 0000:00:19.0: eth1: Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX [00:29] zr, is it a 900 or 701? [00:29] 900 [00:29] i get a response [00:29] everything seems to work,but no sound [00:30] alsa is happy, everything is unmuted [00:30] btw, i'm using a diff laptop at the moment since obviously the laptop in question has no internet connection. let me type out the response msg... [00:30] Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods [00:30] sda:<4>Driver 'sr' needs updating - please use bus_type methods [00:30] zr, did you use a script pack for your EeePC 900 or is it vanilla xubuntu 8.04? [00:31] those are the responses [00:31] bhall_: vanilla [00:31] 2.6.22-14-generic [00:31] coder, don't worry about. Not what I was looking for, Does it show up in Applications -> System -> Network? [00:32] bhall_, under the connections tab i see two things that are grayed out: "Wireless connection" and "Point to point connection" [00:34] bhall_, i should note that when i installed Xubuntu, i used the alternate disc since this laptop has only 700mhz cpu & 128mb ram. and, i did not have the ethernet plugged-in until after installation. [00:36] zr, have you tried this: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/getting_ubuntu_8.04_to_work_perfectly#eeepc_90x [00:36] coder, do you happen to know what kind of wired ethernet it is? Most are supported by Linux these days [00:37] coder316: lspci should list it [00:37] TheSheep, thanks. one sec. [00:38] i don't think it's listed in that [00:39] coder316: how about lshw? [00:39] bhall_: yes [00:39] i looked for words like "ethernet", "nic", "eth", "10/100" etc, but i didn't see anything. when the laptop had windows running, we always just used the wifi. for all i know, the ethernet port could've just died a long time ago... :( [00:40] but, since i know the wireless usb definitely worked in windows earlier today, is there anyway we could get that working too? it's Belkin based [00:40] one sec, let me try lshw [00:41] ooh... lshw gave a lot of results. i'll scroll thru in a sec. the last result is "Wireless interface" ... [00:41] coder, list exactly what belkin model and revision it is. Sometimes they make chipset changes between hardware revisions. [00:42] ok, one sec [00:42] zr, still no joy? Don't think I can help. Sorry. Have you tried eeexubuntu or eeebuntu? Both work great on my 701. [00:43] ok,i just looked through that list. no ethernet [00:43] i just unplugged the usb wireless device so i can read more specific specs for you. [00:44] it says "Belkin 802.11g - 54Mbps" on the front [00:44] model no F5D7050 [00:44] can't find revision # [00:46] a google search for belkin F5D7050 returns what i have: http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=179211 [00:51] Hmm.. looks like you might have to use NDISwrapper. It's a layer that uses the Windows driver. it works well on my HP 2133 Mini-Note with a broadcom card. (I haven't successfully used with with WPA, though.) [00:51] Here's someone in a similar predicament: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=860179 [00:52] i'm willing to try anything that could help get it to work [00:53] Just to warn you: ndiswrapper often isn't fun. It works ok on my 2133 but the broadcom chipset it uses is very well documented. (It's the same wireless as an Apple AirportExtreme.) [00:55] sigh [00:55] i wish device manufacturers would just make linux drivers the same way they do for windows! [00:56] i guess i'll try the ndiswrapper. hopefully i can get it working... [00:57] hey, does this help at all? [00:57] i found on that forum you linked to, one of the commands the guy tried was iwconfig. his returned "no wireless extensions." [00:58] on mine, i get that same result for lo and wmaster0, but for wlan it says IEEE 802.11g ... [00:58] and it says a bunch of info [00:59] bhall_, do you think we could get it working from there? === emma_ is now known as emma [01:04] bhall_, you still there? [01:05] oh. he quit. lol === burner_ is now known as burner [04:50] Hi, im having an issue with hard drive detection [04:50] can anyone help me? [04:51] The installer freezes at the partition screen [04:52] and GPrated wont detect any devices [04:52] *Gparted [04:54] anyone? [05:41] ThePhoenix28: sudo gparted work? [08:18] ThePhoenix28: sudo doesn't work with X apps. gksudo or sux does however [08:55] Hello Anybody can help to me? I use Xubuntu 8.04 and I can not get my mic working! After installing xubuntu it was working but a few days later no more. I have also tried the settings in skype but nothing. Any Idea? [08:59] I have already tried to reaload asla [08:59] but still nothing [09:00] type alsamixer in a terminal and make sure everything is turned up :) [09:01] favro it is turned up [09:01] everything [09:04] what sort of mic is it? - usb or... [09:05] nope [09:05] normal [09:06] intel onboard sound is it? [09:07] lspci | grep audio will tell you [09:07] yes it is onboard [09:07] I will try the command [09:09] 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0) [09:12] can you boot into an older kernel - the .19 kernel killed sound out on one of my comps - using the older kernel fixed it [09:12] favro: works thanks for help I found some settings and some thread on ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#Audio%20Problems [09:12] you can however it usually means there are security holes in the older kernel [09:17] hi [09:17] how to chang ekeyboard switch to dffrent keys [09:17] omg [09:17] keyboard [09:17] !keyboard [09:17] To switch your keyboard layout on GNOME: System -> Preferences -> Keyboard (GNOME) - KDE: K -> System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout (KDE) - Xfce: see https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - See also !Shortcuts [09:17] how to change keybord shoutcut to change worskpaces [09:18] but changing workspaces [09:18] now its ctrl+Fn [09:18] i want change it [09:18] wols_, [09:19] dunno [09:20] :/ [09:20] help [09:22] !shortcuts [09:22] Keyboard shortcuts can be set in System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts [09:36] naked [10:18] hi! [10:18] I installed some apps using synaptic, but they don't appear in the menu structure.... [10:19] why not? [10:19] should I have used the add/remove application Application? [10:22] aldipc: that'S the same. cause they have no menu entry probably [10:22] not all packages do [10:22] that sux... [10:22] but ubuntu would do that right? [10:23] no [10:23] are U sure? [10:23] even gpodder had a menu entry when I used ubuntu. [10:23] yes cause ubuntu and xubuntu use apart from DE which has menu entries, the same packages [10:24] I only use xubuntu because under ubuntu my internet is terribly slow for some reason [10:24] "menu" being the program managing those entries [10:24] what is DE? [10:24] desktop environment [10:24] well gpodder had an entry in ubuntu, and it does not appear in xubuntu! [10:24] and that makes no sense. network speed is a kernel entry [10:24] I don't understand it either... [10:25] I am downloading the ubuntu cd once again now to test it with the live cdd [10:25] remember the live cd is always slower [10:26] yeah [10:26] but I just want to test if the internet works at all... [10:26] it is a known issue with ubuntu! [10:26] only thing ubuntu could do different is the gnome network manager [10:26] people say: disable ipv6, but I don't want to edit configfiles!! and besides.. it didn't work either.. [10:27] I gave up... but without menu entries it becomes annoying.. [10:30] ah, ipv6 dns lookups [10:40] hello, alsa seems to beworking,but i hear no sound [10:40] all channels are unmuted [10:41] turn up the volume? [10:41] I dd [10:41] *did === whaletales is now known as aptanet === tuna-fish is now known as tuna [15:37] hi! A SKYPE question: Skype's camera self view shows static but my contact can see me normally. Skype also crashes immediately upon receiving video [15:38] xubuntu on eeepc [15:41] is there a eeexubuntu channel? [15:42] not that I know of [15:43] that sounds like skype lacks some video dependencies [15:43] hi tuna [15:43] it was working [15:43] so it has received video before? [15:43] video dependencies [15:44] yeah. I was trying to plug the eee to an external monitor [15:44] weird [15:44] that seems to have screwed up the camera [15:44] did you modify your xorg.conf [15:44] ? [15:45] especially what modules it loads? [15:45] if skype uses accelerated video, and you turn it off from xorg.conf, that could be it [15:45] oh [15:46] i think i did, but i was following some tip i randomly found online [15:46] do yuo have a backup? [15:47] of the xorg [15:47] oh [15:47] herm, opps..i don't remember [15:47] i'll go check..thanks tuna [15:48] xorg.conf is deep magic - I'll be damn glad when we finally get rid of it in the next version of ubuntu [15:49] also, I think there is a command that gives you back the default xorg.conf [15:49] tuna: we won't [15:49] oh, i'll check it out [15:50] wols: well, I will [15:50] At least I can run the alpha without it? [15:52] while, theoretically you can have a empty xorg.conf now, if you want an external monitor you still need the file... [15:52] basically with bog standard setups it works. not when anything'S special [16:16] i have 16 different xorgs and one broken and one failsafe. How do I know which one? and how do I revert anyway? Would the debian dpkg be an easier/safer way? === FoxBoy is now known as Hondo_Kitsune [17:22] minimum sys. reqs. are 192 mb ram? [17:28] suggestions if I only have a pc with 96? [17:28] use the 'aternate installer' [17:28] !lowmem | blahbiddyblahbla [17:28] blahbiddyblahbla: For installing on low memory systems, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/LowMemorySystems. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements. [17:30] thx zore [17:46] hi guys, i can't get my sound works in xubuntu, but the sound works well on Ubuntu! [17:46] so what do i have to do? [17:46] rockyrock, It works in Ubuntu but not Xubuntu? :S [17:47] yap! [17:47] :-( [17:47] rockyrock, Did you install Ubuntu and then install Xubuntu? or did you overwrite Ubuntu? ie. How is your box setup now? [17:48] No i formatted everthing in my laptop and then installed xubuntu [17:48] how can i see if xubuntu recognizes the sound card?? [17:49] rockyrock, output sudo lshw [17:51] where should i post the output? [17:51] here? [17:52] rockyrock, no [17:52] rockyrock, pastebin.ubuntu.com [17:52] http://paste.ubuntu.com/38842/ [17:53] rockyrock, it detects it, yup [17:53] but i can't hear anything [17:54] do u mean i have it works? [17:54] when i open the Volume controle it looks empty [17:55] rockyrock, whats the output of amixer? [17:55] what's amixer? [17:55] A command [17:56] amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory [17:57] so...? [17:57] It doesn't look like rockyrock is a member of the audio group. [17:58] rockyrock: Go to Applications - System - Users and Gruops [17:58] Click on the username your logged in as, then click properties [17:58] Then, see what your permissions are. I bet use audio devices is not checked. [18:00] I entered Users Priviliges> Use audio devices "It's checked". You los! [18:00] lol [18:00] * bytor4232 pushes his chips across the table, "shouldn't have gone all in!" [18:00] lol [18:01] so... [18:02] crimsun, Any ideas? ^^ [18:03] are u sure that xubuntu recognises the Sound Card? [18:04] Acutally there is not Voume Controle near the notification area, i did add one to the panel 10mints ago! [18:05] i can't live without music! Also my laptop can't live without xubuntu! I have an old laptop: 1.4GHz Intel, 256 RAM, 30G Hard..... [18:06] i can't install Ubuntu cuz my laptop can't handle it :-( [18:06] rockyrock: Thats a lot of process for so little ram. [18:07] I can't install more than 512 Ram [18:07] my mobo doesn't recognize more that 512 :( [18:08] Also I'm a Java developer :( :( [18:09] Wait a minute... [18:09] it says "multimedia UNCLAIMED [18:09] What does that mean? [18:09] * bytor4232 never heard of lshw before [18:11] bytor4232: dunno! [18:11] Does that mean there is no driver attached to that device? [18:11] i think so [18:12] but it works with Ubuntu!!!!!!!!! I know that xubuntu is just Ubuntu with XFCE and little software [18:13] rockyrock, I find it perplexing as well [18:13] rockyrock: What version of Xubuntu did you install? What version of Ubuntu did you install? [18:13] I think we should talk to some xubuntu developers~ [18:13] * bytor4232 points at cody-somerville [18:14] xubuntu 8.04, Ubuntu 5,...dunno the rest numbers! [18:14] rockyrock, I'm trying to locate one of our sound experts, uno momento svp [18:14] rockyrock: Look at this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267604 [18:14] ok wating [18:15] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/8257 [18:15] Launchpad bug 8257 in alsa-driver "Sound does not work (dup-of: 8012)" [High,Invalid] [18:15] Launchpad bug 8012 in linux-source-2.6.15 "other devices (sound, wireless?) fail to work when lp/parport modules are loaded due to IRQ conflict" [High,Fix released] [18:16] ha! [18:16] You beat me to it ubottu [18:16] I just had that page loaded. [18:17] rockyrock: They worked on Ubuntu 5.10 because it used a different kernel. [18:17] so what does that mean?? I didn't understand ubottu! I can't say that u won [18:17] aha [18:18] rockyrock: Disable your parport in the bios. [18:18] what is parport? [18:19] rockyrock: Your parallel port [18:19] rockyrock: aka lp [18:19] aha! I'm afraid that my bios does have such a choice!!!!! [18:20] i mean doesn't [18:21] rockyrock: You could try blacklisting the parport_pc and parport modules. [18:21] from bios? [18:21] Add "blacklist parport_pc" to the end of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist [18:22] * bytor4232 doesn't know, his lappy doesn't have a parport anyway. [18:22] you'll need to reboot after adding that to the end of blacklist. [18:22] looool no my lappy has one! [18:22] i just checked! [18:23] also, you may have to add "blacklist parport" to the end of blacklist as well. They are seperate modules. [18:24] rockyrock: More info on your problem can be found here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/8012 [18:24] Launchpad bug 8012 in linux-source-2.6.15 "other devices (sound, wireless?) fail to work when lp/parport modules are loaded due to IRQ conflict" [High,Fix released] [18:24] There is a lot of good info there. [18:25] thnx man I hope you to win! [18:45] hey [18:46] if i want to help with Xubuntu, what mailing list do I subscribe to? [18:47] wait i think i found it [18:48] xubuntu-devel and xubuntu-bugs, right? [18:49] edvard: yes [18:51] cool [18:52] is the current package list set in stone? [18:54] going to sign up, bbl [20:53] can somebody please direct me to config files for a webcam (eee pc 900 with eeepc kernel) [20:58] What to do when (1) nither "sudo pkill -9 localedef" nor "sudo kill -9 22067" kills? or (2) when upgrading xubuntu 7.10->8.04 hangs w 100% cpu in "Generating locale..." for 40 minutes? [20:59] David-A, I had the same problem [20:59] I uninstalled locales [20:59] and then installed it again after everything (or as much as it could) finished configuring [21:00] Can I uninstall while I am installing? I think my system is in an intermediate state between 710 and 804 right now [21:13] Hello guys ! [21:17] somebody's here ? [21:17] Yes, but i am in limbo [21:18] sorry i don't know what's limbo :D [21:19] nowhere, kind of [21:19] :d [21:19] anyway [21:19] i got a little problem [21:19] i can't switch my resolution to bigger than 800*600 [21:21] Holydiver: make sure you set up horizontal and vertical synch rates for your moniotr properly [21:21] Holydiver: we can talk, but i might not be able to help you, laptop, crt or flatscreen? [21:21] Holydiver: normally it's autodetected, but some monitors/drivers fail sometimes [21:21] the problem is that my monitor isn't recognized properly [21:21] CRT [21:22] Holydiver: you can set it up with 'sudo displayconfig-gtk' [21:22] i'll give it a try [21:25] thx its solved :D [22:38] Hello I have some problem installing a webcam A4tech PK935. I use Xubuntu 8.04, under Ubuntu it is working well. Anybody knows what I have to install to get it work under xubuntu? [23:57] can we request free xubuntu cds anywhere? [23:57] Hello, I have a problem, I've ran xubuntu on multiple machines, i havnt had to manually fix xorg.conf more than once, which was in an old version (running old xfce), but now i installed hardy and i get a really high res (cant even see the entire desktop) and i cannot change it with the screen preferences in settings, nor can i see what it runs for update hz, i tried to reconfigure xserver with no success (i dont get the res window [23:59] I had to use a backedup xorg.conf from gutsy...