[00:00] <bhall_> Ideally.
[00:00] <TheSheep> (reality is a little suboptime lhere)
[00:00] <zr> no sound on my eeepc
[00:00] <TheSheep> suboptimal
[00:00] <zr> installed xubuntu
[00:00] <TheSheep> zr: how did you check for sound?
[00:01] <bhall_> How about /etc/xdg/user-dirs.defaults?  Can I add arbitrary entries and have them show up?
[00:01] <TheSheep> bhall_: I think these are only created when the user account is created
[00:01] <TheSheep> bhall_: not sure though
[00:01] <TheSheep> bhall_: read the spec
[00:01] <bhall_> (say COURSE_DIR=/my/path/to/course_directories or something?)
[00:02] <bhall_> Ok.  Thanks for the help.  At least I know where to read now.
[00:02] <TheSheep> bhall_: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/basedir-spec
[00:03] <TheSheep> ahm, sorry, that's not the one
[00:05] <bhall_> Thanks, I think I can get it from here.  I really appreciate the help.
[00:06] <zr> TheSheep: alsamixer
[00:06] <zr> TheSheep: all levels are ok
[00:06] <zr> TheSheep: audacious seems to play the music
[00:07] <zr> but no sound comes out
[00:10] <TheSheep> zr: is it a mp3?
[00:10] <TheSheep> zr: did you install the codecs?
[00:10] <zr> i use an ogg to test
[00:11] <zr> firefox flash doesnt play sound either
[00:11] <TheSheep> zr: I assume there is no physical volume control? :)
[00:11] <TheSheep> zr: like some knb or something
[00:11] <TheSheep> knob
[00:11] <zr> TheSheep: nopes
[00:12] <zr> TheSheep: before you ask, i'm not deaf either
[00:12] <TheSheep> does 'cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp' produce noise?
[00:12] <zr> nne at all
[00:12] <zr> hold on
[00:13] <zr> nopes
[00:13] <TheSheep> heh, made me hold my breath :)
[00:13] <zr> crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 2008-08-18 23:42 /dev/dsp
[00:13] <zr> i belong to the audio group
[00:13] <TheSheep> looks correct
[00:14] <zr> root doesnt hear audio either
[00:14] <TheSheep> yeah, you would get an error message if you didn't have rights there
[00:15] <TheSheep> and all channels are unmuted in alsamixer?
[00:15] <zr> of course
[00:15] <TheSheep> dmesg | tail shows anything interesting?
[00:16] <zr> nopes
[00:16]  * TheSheep is out of ideas
[00:16] <zr> I will then cry a thousand tears of sorrow
[00:16] <TheSheep> almost looks like physically disconnected speakers XD
[00:16]  * zr weeps bitterly
[00:17] <zr> i have a laptop
[00:17] <TheSheep> but that's not likely
[00:17] <TheSheep> do you get any sound if you connect headphones?
[00:17] <zr> n
[00:17] <zr> o
[00:22] <coder316> hey
[00:23] <coder316> can somebody please help me with a hardware issue? I just installed Xubuntu onto my Mom's old laptop, and the ethernet is not being recognized.
[00:24] <coder316> I also tried a usb-based wifi, but it's not being recognized either
[00:25] <coder316> can somebody please help?
[00:27] <bhall_> do you get anything when you do dmesg | grep eth
[00:27] <coder316> let me give it a try. one sec
[00:28] <bhall_> (Looking for something like: [   71.462925] 0000:00:19.0: eth1: Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX
[00:29] <bhall_> zr, is it a 900 or 701?
[00:29] <zr> 900
[00:29] <coder316> i get a response
[00:29] <zr> everything seems to work,but no sound
[00:30] <zr> alsa is happy, everything is unmuted
[00:30] <coder316> btw, i'm using a diff laptop at the moment since obviously the laptop in question has no internet connection. let me type out the response msg...
[00:30] <coder316> Driver 'sd' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[00:30] <coder316> sda:<4>Driver 'sr' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[00:30] <bhall_> zr, did you use a script pack for your EeePC 900 or is it vanilla xubuntu 8.04?
[00:31] <coder316> those are the responses
[00:31] <zr> bhall_: vanilla
[00:31] <zr> 2.6.22-14-generic
[00:31] <bhall_> coder, don't worry about.  Not what I was looking for,  Does it show up in Applications -> System -> Network?
[00:32] <coder316> bhall_, under the connections tab i see two things that are grayed out: "Wireless connection" and "Point to point connection"
[00:34] <coder316> bhall_, i should note that when i installed Xubuntu, i used the alternate disc since this laptop has only 700mhz cpu & 128mb ram. and, i did not have the ethernet plugged-in until after installation.
[00:36] <bhall_> zr, have you tried this: http://wiki.eeeuser.com/getting_ubuntu_8.04_to_work_perfectly#eeepc_90x
[00:36] <bhall_> coder, do you happen to know what kind of wired ethernet it is?  Most are supported by Linux these days
[00:37] <TheSheep> coder316: lspci should list it
[00:37] <coder316> TheSheep, thanks. one sec.
[00:38] <coder316> i don't think it's listed in that
[00:39] <TheSheep> coder316: how about lshw?
[00:39] <zr> bhall_: yes
[00:39] <coder316> i looked for words like "ethernet", "nic", "eth", "10/100" etc, but i didn't see anything. when the laptop had windows running, we always just used the wifi. for all i know, the ethernet port could've just died a long time ago... :(
[00:40] <coder316> but, since i know the wireless usb definitely worked in windows earlier today, is there anyway we could get that working too? it's Belkin based
[00:40] <coder316> one sec, let me try lshw
[00:41] <coder316> ooh... lshw gave a lot of results. i'll scroll thru in a sec. the last result is "Wireless interface" ...
[00:41] <bhall_> coder, list exactly what belkin model and revision it is.  Sometimes they make chipset changes between hardware revisions.
[00:42] <coder316> ok, one sec
[00:42] <bhall_> zr, still no joy?  Don't think I can help.  Sorry.  Have you tried eeexubuntu or eeebuntu?  Both work great on my 701.
[00:43] <coder316> ok,i just looked through that list. no ethernet
[00:43] <coder316> i just unplugged the usb wireless device so i can read more specific specs for you.
[00:44] <coder316> it says "Belkin 802.11g - 54Mbps" on the front
[00:44] <coder316> model no F5D7050
[00:44] <coder316> can't find revision #
[00:46] <coder316> a google search for belkin F5D7050 returns what i have: http://catalog.belkin.com/IWCatProductPage.process?Product_Id=179211
[00:51] <bhall_> Hmm.. looks like you might have to use NDISwrapper.  It's a layer that uses the Windows driver.  it works well on my HP 2133 Mini-Note with a broadcom card.  (I haven't successfully used with with WPA, though.)
[00:51] <bhall_> Here's someone in a similar predicament: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=860179
[00:52] <coder316> i'm willing to try anything that could help get it to work
[00:53] <bhall_> Just to warn you: ndiswrapper often isn't fun.  It works ok on my 2133 but the broadcom chipset it uses is very well documented.  (It's the same wireless as an Apple AirportExtreme.)
[00:55] <coder316> sigh
[00:55] <coder316> i wish device manufacturers would just make linux drivers the same way they do for windows!
[00:56] <coder316> i guess i'll try the ndiswrapper. hopefully i can get it working...
[00:57] <coder316> hey, does this help at all?
[00:57] <coder316> i found on that forum you linked to, one of the commands the guy tried was iwconfig. his returned "no wireless extensions."
[00:58] <coder316> on mine, i get that same result for lo and wmaster0, but for wlan it says IEEE 802.11g ...
[00:58] <coder316> and it says a bunch of info
[00:59] <coder316> bhall_, do you think we could get it working from there?
[01:04] <coder316> bhall_, you still there?
[01:05] <coder316> oh. he quit. lol
[04:50] <ThePhoenix28> Hi, im having an issue with hard drive detection
[04:50] <ThePhoenix28> can anyone help me?
[04:51] <ThePhoenix28> The installer freezes at the partition screen
[04:52] <ThePhoenix28> and GPrated wont detect any devices
[04:52] <ThePhoenix28> *Gparted
[04:54] <ThePhoenix28> anyone?
[05:41] <burner> ThePhoenix28: sudo gparted work?
[08:18] <wols_> ThePhoenix28: sudo doesn't work with X apps. gksudo or sux does however
[08:55] <alma> Hello Anybody can help to me? I use Xubuntu 8.04 and I can not get my mic working! After installing xubuntu it was working but a few days later no more. I have also tried the settings in skype but nothing. Any Idea?
[08:59] <alma> I have already tried to reaload asla
[08:59] <alma> but still nothing
[09:00] <favro> type   alsamixer   in a terminal and make sure everything is turned up :)
[09:01] <alma> favro it is turned up
[09:01] <alma> everything
[09:04] <favro> what sort of mic is it? - usb or...
[09:05] <alma> nope
[09:05] <alma> normal
[09:06] <favro> intel onboard sound is it?
[09:07] <favro> lspci | grep audio   will tell you
[09:07] <alma> yes it is onboard
[09:07] <alma> I will try the command
[09:09] <alma> 00:02.7 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] AC'97 Sound Controller (rev a0)
[09:12] <favro> can you boot into an older kernel - the .19 kernel killed sound out on one of my comps - using the older kernel fixed it
[09:12] <alma> favro: works thanks for help I found some settings and some thread on ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype#Audio%20Problems
[09:12] <wols_> you can however it usually means there are security holes in the older kernel
[09:17] <kibibyte> hi
[09:17] <kibibyte> how to chang ekeyboard switch to dffrent keys
[09:17] <kibibyte> omg
[09:17] <wols_> keyboard
[09:17] <wols_> !keyboard
[09:17] <kibibyte> how to change keybord shoutcut to change worskpaces
[09:18] <kibibyte> but changing workspaces
[09:18] <kibibyte> now its ctrl+Fn
[09:18] <kibibyte> i want change it
[09:18] <kibibyte> wols_,
[09:19] <wols_> dunno
[09:20] <kibibyte> :/
[09:20] <kibibyte> help
[09:22] <favro> !shortcuts
[09:36] <bassboi> naked
[10:18] <aldipc> hi!
[10:18] <aldipc> I installed some apps using synaptic, but they don't appear in the menu structure....
[10:19] <aldipc> why not?
[10:19] <aldipc> should I have used the add/remove application Application?
[10:22] <wols_> aldipc: that'S the same. cause they have no menu entry probably
[10:22] <wols_> not all packages do
[10:22] <aldipc> that sux...
[10:22] <aldipc> but ubuntu would do that right?
[10:23] <wols_> no
[10:23] <aldipc> are U sure?
[10:23] <aldipc> even gpodder had a menu entry when I used ubuntu.
[10:23] <wols_> yes cause ubuntu and xubuntu use apart from DE which has menu entries, the same packages
[10:24] <aldipc> I only use xubuntu because under ubuntu my internet is terribly slow for some reason
[10:24] <wols_> "menu" being the program managing those entries
[10:24] <aldipc> what is DE?
[10:24] <wols_> desktop environment
[10:24] <aldipc> well gpodder had an entry in ubuntu, and it does not appear in xubuntu!
[10:24] <wols_> and that makes no sense. network speed is a kernel entry
[10:24] <aldipc> I don't understand it either...
[10:25] <aldipc> I am downloading the ubuntu cd once again now to test it with the live cdd
[10:25] <Myrtti> remember the live cd is always slower
[10:26] <aldipc> yeah
[10:26] <aldipc> but I just want to test if the internet works at all...
[10:26] <aldipc> it is a known issue with ubuntu!
[10:26] <wols_> only thing ubuntu could do different is the gnome network manager
[10:26] <aldipc> people say: disable ipv6, but I don't want to edit configfiles!! and besides.. it didn't work either..
[10:27] <aldipc> I gave up... but without menu entries it becomes annoying..
[10:30] <wols_> ah, ipv6 dns lookups
[10:40] <zr> hello, alsa seems to beworking,but i hear no sound
[10:40] <zr> all channels are unmuted
[10:41] <aldipc> turn up the volume?
[10:41] <zr> I dd
[10:41] <zr> *did
[15:37] <elthlan> hi! A SKYPE question: Skype's camera self view shows static but my contact can see me normally. Skype also crashes immediately upon receiving video
[15:38] <elthlan> xubuntu on eeepc
[15:41] <elthlan> is there a eeexubuntu channel?
[15:42] <tuna> not that I know of
[15:43] <tuna> that sounds like skype lacks some video dependencies
[15:43] <elthlan> hi tuna
[15:43] <elthlan> it was working
[15:43] <tuna> so it has received video before?
[15:43] <elthlan> video dependencies
[15:44] <elthlan> yeah. I was trying to plug the eee to an external monitor
[15:44] <tuna> weird
[15:44] <elthlan> that seems to have screwed up the camera
[15:44] <tuna> did you modify your xorg.conf
[15:44] <tuna> ?
[15:45] <tuna> especially what modules it loads?
[15:45] <tuna> if skype uses accelerated video, and you turn it off from xorg.conf, that could be it
[15:45] <elthlan> oh
[15:46] <elthlan> i think i did, but i was following some tip i randomly found online
[15:46] <tuna> do yuo have a backup?
[15:47] <elthlan> of the xorg
[15:47] <elthlan> oh
[15:47] <elthlan> herm, opps..i don't remember
[15:47] <elthlan> i'll go check..thanks tuna
[15:48] <tuna> xorg.conf is deep magic - I'll be damn glad when we finally get rid of it in the next version of ubuntu
[15:49] <tuna> also, I think there is a command that gives you back the default xorg.conf
[15:49] <wols_> tuna: we won't
[15:49] <elthlan> oh, i'll check it out
[15:50] <tuna> wols: well, I will
[15:50] <tuna> At least I can run the alpha without it?
[15:52] <wols_> while, theoretically you can have a empty xorg.conf now, if you want an external monitor you still need the file...
[15:52] <wols_> basically with bog standard setups it works. not when anything'S special
[16:16] <elthlan> i have 16 different xorgs and one broken and one failsafe. How do I know which one? and how do I revert anyway? Would the debian dpkg be an easier/safer way?
[17:22] <blahbiddyblahbla> minimum sys. reqs. are 192 mb ram?
[17:28] <blahbiddyblahbla> suggestions if I only have a pc with 96?
[17:28] <zoredache> use the 'aternate installer'
[17:28] <zoredache> !lowmem | blahbiddyblahbla
[17:30] <blahbiddyblahbla> thx zore
[17:46] <rockyrock> hi guys, i can't get my sound works in xubuntu, but the sound works well on Ubuntu!
[17:46] <rockyrock> so what do i have to do?
[17:46] <cody-somerville> rockyrock, It works in Ubuntu but not Xubuntu? :S
[17:47] <rockyrock> yap!
[17:47] <rockyrock> :-(
[17:47] <cody-somerville> rockyrock, Did you install Ubuntu and then install Xubuntu? or did you overwrite Ubuntu? ie. How is your box setup now?
[17:48] <rockyrock> No i formatted everthing in my laptop and then installed xubuntu
[17:48] <rockyrock> ﻿how can i see if xubuntu recognizes the sound card??
[17:49] <cody-somerville> rockyrock, output sudo lshw
[17:51] <rockyrock> where should i post the output?
[17:51] <rockyrock> here?
[17:52] <cody-somerville> rockyrock, no
[17:52] <cody-somerville> rockyrock, pastebin.ubuntu.com
[17:52] <rockyrock> http://paste.ubuntu.com/38842/
[17:53] <cody-somerville> rockyrock, it detects it, yup
[17:53] <rockyrock> but i can't hear anything
[17:54] <rockyrock> do u mean i have it works?
[17:54] <rockyrock> when i open the Volume controle it looks empty
[17:55] <cody-somerville> rockyrock, whats the output of amixer?
[17:55] <rockyrock> what's amixer?
[17:55] <cody-somerville> A command
[17:56] <rockyrock> amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory
[17:57] <rockyrock> so...?
[17:57] <bytor4232> It doesn't look like rockyrock is a member of the audio group.
[17:58] <bytor4232> rockyrock: Go to Applications - System - Users and Gruops
[17:58] <bytor4232> Click on the username your logged in as, then click properties
[17:58] <bytor4232> Then, see what your permissions are.  I bet use audio devices is not checked.
[18:00] <rockyrock> I entered Users Priviliges> Use audio devices "It's checked". You los!
[18:00] <cody-somerville> lol
[18:00]  * bytor4232 pushes his chips across the table, "shouldn't have gone all in!"
[18:00] <rockyrock> lol
[18:01] <rockyrock> so...
[18:02] <cody-somerville> crimsun, Any ideas? ^^
[18:03] <rockyrock> are u sure that xubuntu recognises the Sound Card?
[18:04] <rockyrock> Acutally there is not Voume Controle near the notification area, i did add one to the panel 10mints ago!
[18:05] <rockyrock> i can't live without music! Also my laptop can't live without xubuntu! I have an old laptop: 1.4GHz Intel, 256 RAM, 30G Hard.....
[18:06] <rockyrock> i can't install Ubuntu cuz my laptop can't handle it :-(
[18:06] <bytor4232> rockyrock: Thats a lot of process for so little ram.
[18:07] <rockyrock> I can't install more than 512 Ram
[18:07] <rockyrock> my mobo doesn't recognize more that 512 :(
[18:08] <rockyrock> Also I'm a Java developer :( :(
[18:09] <bytor4232> Wait a minute...
[18:09] <bytor4232> it says "multimedia UNCLAIMED
[18:09] <bytor4232> What does that mean?
[18:09]  * bytor4232 never heard of lshw before
[18:11] <rockyrock> bytor4232: dunno!
[18:11] <bytor4232> Does that mean there is no driver attached to that device?
[18:11] <rockyrock> i think so
[18:12] <rockyrock> but it works with Ubuntu!!!!!!!!! I know that xubuntu is just Ubuntu with XFCE and little software
[18:13] <cody-somerville> rockyrock, I find it perplexing as well
[18:13] <bytor4232> rockyrock: What version of Xubuntu did you install?  What version of Ubuntu did you install?
[18:13] <rockyrock> I think we should talk to some xubuntu developers~
[18:13]  * bytor4232 points at cody-somerville
[18:14] <rockyrock> xubuntu 8.04, Ubuntu 5,...dunno the rest numbers!
[18:14] <cody-somerville> rockyrock, I'm trying to locate one of our sound experts, uno momento svp
[18:14] <bytor4232> rockyrock: Look at this:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=267604
[18:14] <rockyrock> ok wating
[18:15] <bytor4232> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/8257
[18:16] <bytor4232> ha!
[18:16] <bytor4232> You beat me to it ubottu
[18:16] <bytor4232> I just had that page loaded.
[18:17] <bytor4232> rockyrock: They worked on Ubuntu 5.10 because it used a different kernel.
[18:17] <rockyrock> so what does that mean?? I didn't understand ubottu! I can't say that u won
[18:17] <rockyrock> aha
[18:18] <bytor4232> rockyrock: Disable your parport in the bios.
[18:18] <rockyrock> what is parport?
[18:19] <bytor4232> rockyrock: Your parallel port
[18:19] <bytor4232> rockyrock: aka lp
[18:19] <rockyrock> aha! I'm afraid that my bios does have such a choice!!!!!
[18:20] <rockyrock> i mean doesn't
[18:21] <bytor4232> rockyrock: You could try blacklisting the parport_pc and parport modules.
[18:21] <rockyrock> from bios?
[18:21] <bytor4232> Add "blacklist parport_pc" to the end of /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[18:22]  * bytor4232 doesn't know, his lappy doesn't have a parport anyway.
[18:22] <bytor4232> you'll need to reboot after adding that to the end of blacklist.
[18:22] <rockyrock> looool no my lappy has one!
[18:22] <rockyrock> i just checked!
[18:23] <bytor4232> also, you may have to add "blacklist parport" to the end of blacklist as well.  They are seperate modules.
[18:24] <bytor4232> rockyrock: More info on your problem can be found here:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/8012
[18:24] <bytor4232> There is a lot of good info there.
[18:25] <rockyrock> thnx  man I hope you to win!
[18:45] <edvard> hey
[18:46] <edvard> if i want to help with Xubuntu, what mailing list do I subscribe to?
[18:47] <edvard> wait i think i found it
[18:48] <edvard> xubuntu-devel and xubuntu-bugs, right?
[18:49] <danielm> edvard: yes
[18:51] <edvard> cool
[18:52] <edvard> is the current package list set in stone?
[18:54] <edvard> going to sign up, bbl
[20:53] <n3hima> can somebody please direct me to config files for a webcam (eee pc 900 with eeepc kernel)
[20:58] <David-A> What to do when (1) nither "sudo pkill -9 localedef" nor "sudo kill -9 22067" kills? or (2) when upgrading xubuntu 7.10->8.04 hangs w 100% cpu in "Generating locale..." for 40 minutes?
[20:59] <cody-somerville> David-A, I had the same problem
[20:59] <cody-somerville> I uninstalled locales
[20:59] <cody-somerville> and then installed it again after everything (or as much as it could) finished configuring
[21:00] <David-A> Can I uninstall while I am installing? I think my system is in an intermediate state between 710 and 804 right now
[21:13] <Holydiver> Hello guys !
[21:17] <Holydiver> somebody's here ?
[21:17] <David-A> Yes, but i am in limbo
[21:18] <Holydiver> sorry i don't know what's limbo :D
[21:19] <David-A> nowhere, kind of
[21:19] <Holydiver> :d
[21:19] <Holydiver> anyway
[21:19] <Holydiver> i got a little problem
[21:19] <Holydiver> i can't switch my resolution to bigger than 800*600
[21:21] <TheSheep> Holydiver: make sure you set up horizontal and vertical synch rates for your moniotr properly
[21:21] <David-A> Holydiver: we can talk, but i might not be able to help you, laptop, crt or flatscreen?
[21:21] <TheSheep> Holydiver: normally it's autodetected, but some monitors/drivers fail sometimes
[21:21] <Holydiver> the problem is that my monitor isn't recognized properly
[21:21] <Holydiver> CRT
[21:22] <TheSheep> Holydiver: you can set it up with 'sudo displayconfig-gtk'
[21:22] <Holydiver> i'll give it a try
[21:25] <Holydiver> thx its solved :D
[22:38] <alma> Hello I have some problem installing a webcam A4tech PK935. I use Xubuntu 8.04, under Ubuntu it is working well. Anybody knows what I have to install to get it work under xubuntu?
[23:57] <zzl> can we request free xubuntu cds anywhere?
[23:57] <apathetic> Hello, I have a problem, I've ran xubuntu on multiple machines, i havnt had to manually fix xorg.conf more than once, which was in an old version (running old xfce), but now i installed hardy and i get a really high res (cant even see the entire desktop) and i cannot change it with the screen preferences in settings, nor can i see what it runs for update hz, i tried to reconfigure xserver with no success (i dont get the res window
[23:59] <favro> I had to use a backedup xorg.conf from gutsy...