[12:54] <coolio> i have this "kinit: boot error "any tips
[12:54] <coolio> when i go to cntrl:alt 1/2/3/4/ i try to login but it times out
[16:45] <LaserJock> morning Edu people
[16:46] <ogra> LaserJock, hey ! thansk for taking care of the metapackage ... (sorry still no denemo love from my side)
[16:46] <LaserJock> np
[16:47] <LaserJock> I'm was working on the Harvest list for Edubuntu yesterday
[16:47] <LaserJock> got a couple knocked off
[16:48] <LaserJock> ogra: have you even had a chance to look at new denemo deps?
[16:49] <ogra> i'd like to discuss them with the studio guys (persia and TheMuso mainly) i know there is work going on to sanitize jack for main
[16:51] <ogra> persia is likely asleep atm (1am in tokio)
[16:52] <LaserJock> well, I did talk to persia about it briefly
[16:52] <ogra> what did he suggest ?
[16:53] <LaserJock> it sounded like jack was maybe feasible but some of the other stuff (csound perhaps) he didn't see making it into Main
[16:53] <ogra> i dont want to lose the note editing function we dont have anythig else that does offer this
[16:53] <LaserJock> well, I was looking around for other note editors
[16:53] <LaserJock> but they all have the same problem
[16:53] <ogra> we could add LaTex :P
[16:54] <LaserJock> well, which part of the problem is more concerning to you?
[16:54] <LaserJock> lilypond or libaubio
[16:55] <LaserJock> I could probably get a MIR for lilypond in, but the audio stuff is much more difficult, IMO
[16:55] <ogra> both should be possible to get to main i heard
[16:56]  * ogra thinks he remembers discussing aubio before with pitti
[16:56] <LaserJock> ok
[16:59] <LaserJock> ogra: I was looking at the NBS list yesterday and I did notice that several of the deps are needed for other packages too
[17:01] <ogra> right, i think thats why pitti said it wouldnt be a prob
[17:11] <LaserJock> ogra: well, I don't want to take more of your time
[17:12] <LaserJock> ogra: don't do more than you're supposed to. I'll work on getting the CD in shape
[17:15] <ogra> well, i will do some more on edubuntu soon again
[17:15] <ogra> stil waiting for the final signoff for cmpc
[17:15] <LaserJock> cool
[21:05] <chao1> hello. does anyone here know of a program that is for both windows and ubuntu that works like the thin client environment? I was reading about it and lost the link. I can't remember the name. But some of what it does is: allows the teacher to monitor and control the students desktop. Allows the teacher to let the classroom see her/his desktop, send im to the student, etc.
[21:06] <ogra> italc
[21:07] <chao1> yes thats it
[21:07] <chao1> thank you
[21:07] <LaserJock> ogra: have you looked at xaos? a sync isn't good?
[21:07] <LaserJock> I did a test build last night and it at least built
[21:08] <ogra> LaserJock, i only noticed the bug
[21:08] <LaserJock> I didn't test it out so I have no idea if all the bits work properly
[21:08] <ogra> does debian include the .desktop file and icon ?
[21:08] <LaserJock> oh, good question, let me check
[21:08] <ogra> the upstream changes should be fine
[21:09] <ogra> there were ubuntu users involved in getting the UTF-8 support going, so i dont expect probs here
[21:09] <LaserJock> yep, there is a .desktop and icon
[21:09] <ogra> oh, coool !
[21:09] <ogra> sync then :)
[21:10] <ogra> i'll fix bugs if they come up
[21:10] <LaserJock> yeah, I think a sync will actually close both of the ones on Harvest
[21:11] <LaserJock> the UTF-8 issue is one
[21:12] <ogra> i mean any upcoming ones if you dont test ;)
[21:12] <ogra> xaos os a handsome package :)
[21:12] <ogra> *is
[21:13] <ogra> so i dont mind fixing things before release ... and updates before 8.10 are unlikely
[21:13] <LaserJock> mhm
[21:14] <ogra> xaos is in a very nice way nt very active and pretty stable ...
[21:14] <LaserJock> ogra: btw, not sure if you saw but I talked to bdoin in here a bit about gcompris
[21:14] <ogra> no, i didnt
[21:14] <LaserJock> I asked if he'd been getting any more complaints about Ubuntu (there were quite a few ~ feisty/gusty)
[21:15] <LaserJock> and he said no, everybody seems content
[21:15] <ogra> great
[21:15] <LaserJock> yeah
[21:15]  * ogra pats LaserJock's back ....
[21:15] <ogra> all your credit :)
[21:16] <LaserJock> btw, I just found out that our Chemistry Department computer lab may convert from Windows to Edubuntu
[21:16] <ogra> geez !
[21:16] <LaserJock> well, some sort of Edubuntu/Ubuntu/Chemistry application mix
[21:16] <LaserJock> I'm thinking of making a custom CD for it
[21:17] <LaserJock> anyway, I'd been wanting to get away from those awful Windows computers forever
[21:17] <LaserJock> and I was talking to the guy I'm teaching for this semester and he mentioned they were going to try to convert it
[21:17] <LaserJock> he's a big Ubuntu fan and so is one of the profs
[21:17] <LaserJock> \o/
[21:20] <ogra> yay
[21:52] <LaserJock> ogra: still around? I've got a quick question for you