[00:04] <dillon> hey i got it working wanted to say thanks you guys are awesome
[00:15] <szakulec> how do I start a kde app from a terminal?
[00:15] <Cannoli> how can i make a ntfs partition on my hdd through kubuntu?
[00:15] <gleyve> Can I customize my bootscreen?
[00:18] <dillon> szakulec: just type the name of the program
[00:20] <Cannoli> !theme
[00:21] <zzl> does anyone know of a good OS that is good for my old computer that and that can run windows executibles well? all I'm trying to do on that old computer is to use the windows .exe to view stocks
[00:22] <samuel>  ubuntu
[00:23] <zzl> my computer is 1999 custom made..
[00:23] <samuel> should stil be cool
[00:23] <samuel> on my machine ubuntu idles at 256mb ram
[00:23] <samuel> sometimes less
[00:24] <Cannoli> !EYECANDY
[00:25] <_mn_> zzl, if you're worried about that you could try xubuntu
[00:41] <wildchild> #kubuntu-es
[00:42] <samuel> so whos a newbie?
[00:42] <joshuajtl> argh kicker-compiz wont show the pager in 2 rows
[00:45] <bradford> hi can someone help me with setting up wireless card on dell
[00:45] <bradford> please
[00:46] <KRF> bradford, give some more details (model, name, etc.)
[00:46] <KRF> and what the problem is
[00:46] <bradford> thanks so much here is what i have done
[00:47] <bradford> added the ndiswrapper utility
[00:47] <bradford> and moved windows drivers to lib/frimware/wirless
[00:47] <bradford> but the command
[00:48] <bradford> sudo ndiswrapper -i /lib/firmware/i3945/infname.inf
[00:48] <bradford> gives me some error about
[00:48] <KRF> you shouldnt need ndis for  a i3945 adapter afaik
[00:49] <bradford> well tried ubuntu and kubuntu
[00:49] <KRF> [krf@raptor ~/kde-devel/lib 1,5G] lsmod | grep 39                                                                    1:49
[00:49] <KRF> iwl3945                89844  0
[00:49] <KRF> theres iwl3945
[00:49] <KRF> should work out of the box normally
[00:49] <KRF> bradford, what dell model?
[00:50] <bradford> it will not recoginize only have wired and phonhe
[00:50] <bubu1uk> i got 3965 and works out of box.
[00:50] <bradford> in networks
[00:50] <bradford> vpstrp 1500
[00:50] <bradford> vostro 1500 i mean
[00:51] <Daisuke_Laptop> the 3945 and 4965 work out of the box, there should be no need for ndiswrapepr at all :\
[00:52] <bradford> if you have any ideas i just reinstalled again and still will not see wireless
[00:52] <Daisuke_Laptop> is the wireless *on*?
[00:52] <KRF> bradford, yeah. look for some hardware switch
[00:53] <Daisuke_Laptop> on dells, the hardware switch is right at the front, on the edge, a bit to the left of the touchpad (at least it is on the inspirons)
[00:53] <bradford> yes works fine in xp
[00:54] <bradford> butr wnen i use ndiswraper to install the driver and get ndiscrapper options i am using -i
[00:54] <samuel> What OS are you on ?
[00:54] <bradford> studio
[00:54] <bradford> ubuntu
[00:55] <samuel> I had a ton of trouble with ubuntu and my wireless card....I swtiched to kubuntu and it worked great
[00:55] <samuel> they had more up to date comatibilty
[00:55] <bubu1uk> samuel: didn't have any problems neither on kubuntu neither ubuntu with wireless.
[00:55] <bubu1uk> i4965
[00:55] <samuel> ubuntu kept giving me trouble with ndiswrapper
[00:56] <samuel> afterinstalling i was getting a no utilities error
[00:56] <samuel> when trying to setup
[00:56] <bradford> so i need to try kubuntu?
[00:56] <bradford> insteed
[00:56] <bradford> i just need any solution or idea if anyone has one
[00:56] <bubu1uk> u might try. althougt it should work it think.
[00:57] <samuel> they have a program built in that set me up and has worked great
[00:57] <bradford> is there a way to add to the networks ?
[00:57] <samuel> kubuntu is a little more intesnive than ubuntu but still far less ram hogging than widnows
[00:57] <samuel> brb
[00:57] <bradford> or see is ubuntu is seeing wireless card at all even though not in the networks
[00:57] <bradford> k
[01:03] <bradford> i am downloading kubuntu now thanks for the help will c if that will work on the dell thanks for the help
[01:06] <_mn_> samuel: what do you mean kubuntu is more intensive?
[01:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> _mn_: judging from a quick glance at the comment, he probably means resource intensive
[01:07] <Daisuke_Laptop> which isn't necessarily true
[01:07] <bradford> guys i just want it to work
[01:07] <_mn_> ah
[01:08] <bradford> thanks for the ideas will let you know how it goes
[01:09] <samuel> read this for kubuntu
[01:10] <samuel> http://thelinuxnewbie.blogspot.com/2006/08/installing-wifi-wireless-c_115515845577896146.html
[01:10] <samuel> this is what got me going and have had no problems since
[01:12] <pteague> i wasted several hours last night trying to debug my firewall trying to figure out why i couldn't connect to the internet... turns out my cable provider turned it off for distributing illegal warez via bittorrent
[01:12] <samuel> lol
[01:12] <samuel> that is not good.  do you have comcast?
[01:13] <bubu1uk> pteague lol
[01:13] <pteague> no, everest (now surewest)... i'm thinking it's cause of the recent change... i was confused... i'm not running bittorrent at all, i'm running rtorrent... & i asked which of ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, mythbuntu, & fedora were considered warez?
[01:23] <Cannoli> !theme
[01:31] <Cannoli> can someone help me on how to install a theme
[01:31] <Cannoli> please
[01:31] <_mn_> apt-get   ? just a guess
[01:33] <Cannoli> no their available online but i dont know how to install them
[01:43] <newsense> whats the difference between Kubuntu 8.04 KDE4 Remix and Kubuntu 8.04, didnt see anything about the defference on the website
[01:43] <_mn_> kubuntu 8.04 uses KDE3
[01:43] <Jucato> newsense: regular 8.04 is KDE 3, KDE 4 Remix is, well, KDE 4
[01:44] <macedon> sa ,para sa faca
[01:44] <newsense> ok sorry thought 8.04 might have been kde4
[01:47] <vilhelm> is KDE 4.1 any good?
[01:47] <newsense> i like 3. better
[01:48] <newsense> i run 3.5.9 personally
[01:48] <_mn_> i like kde4
[02:02] <Dr_willis> Ive gotten where i just use jwm+rox :)
[02:11] <BluesKaj> hiyas
[02:16] <myk_robinson> anyone able to help with this:   http://pastebin.ca/1179241
[02:17] <gt> #kubuntu-es
[02:19] <KRF> myk_robinson, nothing you can fix ;)
[02:20] <myk_robinson> that seems to be the case, actually
[02:20] <myk_robinson> i tried dpkg --configure -a   and apt-get -f install
[02:20] <myk_robinson> both yield hte same result
[02:21] <uoaphys> hi guys, from ubuntu 8.04, do I need to add a sources ection to get 4.1? Or can I just do kubuntu-kde4-desktop and then go?
[02:22] <Dr_willis> The 4.1 factoid has the needed repos you must add.
[02:22] <Dr_willis> !kde4
[02:23] <Dr_willis> uoaphys,  so YES you do need to add a repo.
[02:23] <uoaphys> drwillis: ubuntu right now is allowing me to install kubuntu-kde4-desktop... will that install 4.0 instead?
[02:23] <Dr_willis> correct.
[02:24] <Dr_willis> 4.1 is in its own repo i recall..
[02:24] <Dr_willis> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 gives the exact info needed
[02:25] <uoaphys> ok thx
[02:32] <mrglass> hello
[02:33] <Dr_willis> Jello!
[02:33] <mrglass> I'm having a problem getting my windows mobile device to work with ubunt
[02:33] <mrglass> 8u
[02:33] <mrglass> *u
[02:33] <mrglass> I've read the wiki on synce
[02:34] <mrglass> i keep getting a WARNING that 'Failed to get devices'
[02:34] <mrglass> does anyone know anything about this?
[02:35] <ahmos> Dr_willis : hi , do you know a good language translator plz?
[02:35] <Dr_willis> bablefish web site perhaps?
[02:35] <mrglass> the exact message displayed is as follows;
[02:36] <mrglass> sorry if this is a flood
[02:36] <mrglass> (process:15496): WARNING **: synce_info_from_odccm: Failed to get devices: The name org.synce.odccm was not provided by any .service files
[02:36] <mrglass> synce-pls: Could not find configuration at path '(Default)'
[02:36] <ahmos> i need a program ..
[02:36] <Dr_willis> ahmos,  no idea on a program.
[02:37] <niklas_> Hey guys
[02:37] <ahmos> Dr_willis, ok thank's alot
[02:37] <niklas_> How do I make my computer run smoothly with my hd 2600 PRO graphic card?
[02:37] <niklas_> Im using Hardy
[02:46] <Dr_willis> Thats an ATI card?
[03:04] <bdizzle> hello all
[03:13] <sd32> !emerald
[03:19] <mysteldark> ayuda
[03:19] <mysteldark> wine
[03:19] <mysteldark> instlar un progrmas .MSI
[03:19] <mysteldark> CON LOS SIGUIENTES COMANDO
[03:20] <kurumin> Hi
[03:20] <kurumin> who is brasilian
[03:20] <kurumin> ?
[03:20] <genii> !es
[03:21] <genii> kurumin: Likely the people in the channel #ubuntu-br
[03:21] <kurumin> tanks
[03:21] <kurumin> #ubuntu-br
[03:21] <mysteldark> How i can install .MSI file whit wine msiexec /i Matematicas_de_Microsoft_V._2007.msi
[03:24] <flaccid> mysteldark: try google
[03:24] <mysteldark> oks
[03:27] <vilhelm> anyone here?
[03:28] <genii> vilhelm: 268 someones, apparently
[03:28] <vilhelm> i have an mp3 player and i can't delete the folders in it ! anyone?
[03:32] <_mn_> what all do i need to partition to install kubuntu?  OS = 30 GB (ext3)  Swap = 1GB (swap) Something = 8 GB (????)
[03:32] <_mn_> vilhelm: what kind is it
[03:32] <_mn_> ?
[03:33] <ahmos> #debian
 Creative Muvo X
[03:33] <_mn_> ahmos: why you type #debian ?
[03:34] <ahmos> sorry, but can anyone help me setting up my locales
[03:34] <_mn_> hrmm... vilhelm is it hooked up to your computer via usb or what
[03:35] <vilhelm> yeah usb
[03:35] <ahmos> plz!!!
[03:35] <vilhelm> dont understand why i cant delete the folders :(
[03:35] <vilhelm> I had 7 mp3 folder and i could delete 4 of them
[03:36] <ahmos> !locale
[03:36] <vilhelm> but there are 3 left that I cant delete
[03:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> !patience | Ahadiel
[03:36] <_mn_> have you gone to command and chnged to that drive or gone to that drive in the equivalent of explorer?
[03:36] <Daisuke_Laptop> ooh, wrong Ah
[03:36] <h0lym0uly> how do i go from ubuntu to kubuntu
[03:36] <_mn_> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:37] <genii> h0lym0uly: install kubuntu-desktop    then choose from the login screen which you want to load when you login
[03:37] <_mn_> ^^^ type that in terminal
[03:37] <h0lym0uly> tahst iT?
[03:37] <genii> !purekde | h0lym0uly - if you decide to ditch gnome and go only with kde
[03:38] <vilhelm> this sucks :(
[03:38] <h0lym0uly> how can linux be so easy
[03:38] <h0lym0uly> its like, so much easier than Wind0w$
[03:38] <_mn_> vilhelm: have you gone to command and chnged to that drive or gone to that drive in the equivalent of explorer?
[03:38] <_mn_> wow, i think linux is less user friendly that win
 no i have not
[03:39] <_mn_> try that
[03:39] <_mn_> then you can try to delete from there
[03:40] <samuel> Windows is far less easier than Linux
[03:41] <vilhelm> it did not help :(
[03:41] <vilhelm> Access Denied when I try to delete :(
[03:42] <_mn_> try changin the permission
[03:42] <samuel> delete from terminal as sudo
[03:42] <_mn_> Man I like Windows.  Im going to Linux anyway
[03:42] <ahmos> !utf-8
[03:43] <vilhelm> Hey now i got it
[03:44] <vilhelm> why do i have to be root to delete files from my mp3 player?
[03:44] <samuel> are you trying to delete them from the computer ?
[03:44] <_mn_> because it's removable hardware i imagine
[03:44] <samuel> Is your player sync'ed
 i dont know if it's sync'ed
[03:45] <h0lym0uly> d
[03:45] <vilhelm> how can i see that?
[03:45] <ghostcube> vilhelm: how have u uploaded the files
 what do u mean?
[03:46] <ghostcube> how do u put the files on the player
[03:46] <ghostcube> ^^
[03:47] <illmortal> Can anyone assist me in upgrading from KD3 to KD4 (remix)? Or Do I need to do a clean install?
 :D :D i just copy them there :P
[03:47] <ghostcube> illmortal: kde4 can be installed besides kde3
[03:47] <vilhelm> copy > paste :D
[03:47] <ghostcube> vilhelm: on linux ?
 yeah? :D
[03:47] <vilhelm> is that wrong? :P
[03:47] <ghostcube> so u copied them as root maybe ?
[03:48] <illmortal> ghostcube, how would I go about that?
 might have done that yes
[03:48] <ghostcube> so u can only remove them by root
[03:48] <ghostcube> u can see this by
[03:48] <ghostcube> ls -lisa /folderofmp3player
[03:48] <samuel> set your device to connect as storage device and just drop and drag
[03:48] <ghostcube> it shows u the permissons and the ownnership
[03:49] <ghostcube> illmortal: i think on www.kubuntu.org is an howto
[03:49] <illmortal> thanks
[03:50] <ghostcube> http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1
[03:50] <bdizzle> what is the quick keyboard shortcut to access konsole?
[03:52] <flaccid> bdizzle: there isnt' one by default
[03:54] <ghostcube> settings >> configure shortcuts
[03:54] <bdizzle> oh, I thought it was like Alt + F2 or something, but yeah
[03:54] <flaccid> bdizzle: thats to run command
[03:55] <bdizzle> ...same difference?
[03:56] <flaccid> you asked for shortcut to konsole not run command
[03:57] <bdizzle> ...
[03:57] <bdizzle> *faceplam*
[03:58] <bdizzle> okay, when trying to change the URL of a "Home" icon on the desktop, it claims I do not have sufficient access to write to the file
[03:58] <bdizzle> how do I change this?
[03:59] <illmortal> thanks again ghostcube, doing the update right now :D
[03:59] <ghostcube> np
[04:01] <asobi> anyone know if verizon fios will work on kubuntu?
[04:02] <ahmos> people ..i'm confused about setting up my locale and i don't know what to do again.....
[04:02] <ahmos> so can anybody help me plz
[04:04] <bdizzle> asobi, what reason do you have to believe it won't
[04:04] <bdizzle> ahmos, what locale do you mean?
[04:05] <bdizzle> um, is there a reason why openn office keeps crashing when I exit it?
[04:05] <asobi> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=852221
[04:05] <asobi> verizon also states on their website that they do not support linux
[04:05] <ahmos> bdizzle, i have some arabic programs which i get an unknown characters when i open it
[04:06] <bdizzle> install the proper language packages?
[04:07] <bdizzle> ...verizon also doesn't state they are idiots, but we know that anyway
[04:07] <bdizzle> I've got DSL at home, and all the setup is based on a web-based program of various menus and boxes and such
[04:07] <bdizzle> are you going to be using a laptop to connect wirelessly, or is the FIOS connected to your desktop (or will it at least) ?
[04:08] <ahmos> i've installed everything .. i need my system to be in english but also to display these programs well
[04:08] <asobi> desktop
[04:09] <asobi> i have dsl now
[04:10] <mr---t-> I'm on verizon DSL with linux
[04:10] <asobi> as am i
[04:11] <asobi> maybe i am just paranoid
[04:11] <mr---t-> are you going to fios?
[04:11] <asobi> yes
[04:11] <mr---t-> oh
[04:11] <asobi> hence my asking...
[04:12] <mr---t-> I missed the first part
[04:12] <asobi> :/
[04:14] <mr---t-> look here http://www.freesoftwaremagazine.com/node/1875
[04:18] <asobi> good link
[04:22] <natlin> algum brasileiro?
[04:22] <mr---t-> glad it helped
[04:22] <mr---t-> !br
[04:23] <natlin> nem é por ajuda nao
[04:23] <natlin> quero soh saber como listo os canais disponiveis
[04:25] <mn> hablan espanol?
[04:25] <bdizzle> no mucho
[04:25] <mr---t-> natlin: /join #ubuntu-br
[04:26] <mn> in kubuntu can i sudo apt-get install wine  ?
[04:26] <bdizzle> yes...
[04:26] <mn> aiight
[04:26] <bdizzle> asobe, does it come with an install disk somewhere that has to run on windows, or is it setup via the web-browser?
[04:27] <bdizzle> out of curiosity, I know wine enables the user to run some windows programs. Is there an equivalent to run mac programs?
[04:32] <Daisuke_Laptop> bdizzle: there is not
[04:36] <iss_student> Is there a special channel for Kubuntu with KDE 4.1
[04:36] <spike_> yes
[04:36] <spike_> #kubuntu-kde4
[04:36] <spike_> and/or just #KDE
[04:36] <spike_> (depending on how specific the issue is)
[04:37] <spike_> I think kubuntu is currently kde3 still (prolly not for too long tho)
[04:37] <flaccid> !enter | spike_
[04:37] <flaccid> !intrepid
[04:38] <flaccid> aww come on ref
[04:38] <spike_> lol flaccid :) ForgeAus here
[04:38] <flaccid> where?
[04:38] <spike_> no me I'm forgeaus under a differnt nick (on a diff computer thats why)
[04:39] <flaccid> you should change nicks as its etiquette
[04:39] <spike_> I normally do, I just overlooked it
[04:41] <spike_> WOAH!!! thats about the biggest netsplit I ever saw... sofar anyway..
[04:43] <grendal_prime> ok what is the deal with the damn network manager in kde!~!!!!
[04:43] <grendal_prime> ok what is the deal with the damn network manager in kde!~!!!!
[04:43] <grendal_prime> i cant get it to do anything right
[04:44] <grendal_prime> i keep refering back to just configing my network/interfaces file manually because the nework manager is so dman flaky...what am i doing wrong??
[04:44] <iss_student> Seems to work fine for me using wireless
[04:44] <grendal_prime> ok what does you interfaces file look like?
[04:45] <iss_student> I've actually never looked at it
[04:45] <grendal_prime> also i create profiles in the openvpn portion of it..but they dont show up as a selectable vpn option.
[04:45] <grendal_prime> can you look at it now?
[04:45] <flaccid> if you use knetworkmanager, you must not have the interface(s) configured in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:46] <grendal_prime> grrrr..so what i just shitcan it?
[04:46] <grendal_prime> rename it old or something?
[04:46] <flaccid> what you talkin about
[04:46] <grendal_prime> the interfaces file
[04:49] <flaccid> only localhost should be in there
[04:49] <bdizzle> why can't I get Java plugins to work with Firefox?
[04:49] <flaccid> knetworkmanager is user based, not system/root...
[04:49] <ForgeAus> apparently spike_ is also a registered nickname lol :)
[04:49] <bdizzle> the basic JRE I mean
[04:49] <ForgeAus> bdizzle, do you have sun java?
[04:50] <ForgeAus> you might need mozilla's java plugin also...
[04:50] <bdizzle> I'm pretty sure I installed it
[04:50]  * ForgeAus shrugs
[04:50] <ForgeAus> what happens when you try to load a java page?
[04:51] <ForgeAus> (erm I mean page with a java applet)
[04:51] <bdizzle> sun-java 6 is installed
[04:51] <ForgeAus> empty grey box?
[04:51] <iss_student> Ok dumb question does compiz fusion work with Kubuntu running KDE 4.1?
[04:51] <bdizzle> from firefox, it claims that the plugin isn't installed, offers to try to install it, but says I have to do a manual install
[04:51] <starbyte-l> AndrewB is here too!
[04:51] <ForgeAus> iss student yes but I recommend it with kde3 instead
[04:52] <ForgeAus> (and use kwin for kde4)
[04:52] <bdizzle> sun-java6-bin, sun-java6-fonts, sun-java6-jre, and sun-java-plugin are all installed
[04:52] <iss_student> But I like kde 4.1 lol
[04:52] <ForgeAus> hehe iss, you don't need compiz for kde4
[04:52] <ForgeAus> it has its own fx
[04:52] <ForgeAus> but you can still use it (compiz --replace)
[04:52] <iss_student> Some of the effects are cool to show off at college
[04:53] <bdizzle> this is very true
[04:53] <bdizzle> the only reason I had to stop using compiz was it kept getting rid of my title bars, which I kinda need more than the awesome effects
[04:53] <ForgeAus> bdizzle, then afaik it should be working I don't know how to help you any further? unless you have it disabled in firefox's preferences or something?
[04:54] <vorian> apachelogger: ping me when you are awake re: ff-qt
[04:54] <vorian> :)
[04:54] <iss_student> I try to be a Linux Ambasador at college. Even the instructor that I TA'd for in Intro to Linux refered to me as a Linux Zealot
[04:54] <flaccid> bdizzle: #firefox
[04:54] <bdizzle> no, the box for Java in Firefox is checked
[04:54] <ForgeAus> bdizzle, you can get several different decoratros for compiz
[04:54] <ForgeAus> yeah I have to agree with flaccid #firefox may be more able to assist you
[04:54] <bdizzle> ok
[04:55] <flaccid> if its firefox2 i wouldnt expect it to work
[04:56] <ForgeAus> I tend to recommend firefox 3 these days anyway, about the only thing that I miss from ff2 is tabmix plus and theres developing versions of that available too...
[05:03] <zenrei> hello everyone
[05:05] <zenrei> does anyone know how configure a soundcard ?
[05:05] <grendal_prime> ok
[05:06] <grendal_prime> ok axed the interfaces file
[05:06] <grendal_prime> knetwork manager seems to work for fireing up the eth0 with no problem..
[05:07] <grendal_prime> but..i cannot get a vnp profile to work..does that make any sence?
[05:11] <zenrei> can anyone help me istall KDE 4.1?
[05:14] <flaccid> !kde4 | zenrei
[05:15] <flaccid> grendal_prime: you might want to try vpnc or kvpn or whatever it is for the vpn
[05:15] <flaccid> and report that as a bug
[05:15] <grendal_prime> no those dont work.
[05:15] <grendal_prime> this is working fine now
[05:15] <flaccid> suit yourself
[05:16] <grendal_prime> i needed the openvpn network-manager plugin installed
[05:16] <grendal_prime> i apparently uninstalled it at some point
[05:16] <flaccid> ok
[05:16] <grendal_prime> see this works reasonable well now.
[05:16] <grendal_prime> i was under the impression that the knetworkmanager read the interfaces file
[05:16] <flaccid> yeah so problem was user :p
[05:16] <flaccid> negative
[05:17] <flaccid> it respects the interfaces file but does not use it as knetworkmanager is run by users not root
[05:17] <grendal_prime> after i renamed that file...everything started up fine.
[05:17] <grendal_prime> right..after you said that i was like oooo so its some user level netwoking tool
[05:17] <flaccid> you need the interface file still to define localhost
[05:17] <grendal_prime> i didnt realize that was possible
[05:18] <grendal_prime> im really use to core debian.
[05:18] <flaccid> this is the same as debian
[05:18] <grendal_prime> well ive always just used the interfaces file and beat it up when i needed to change something
[05:19] <flaccid> yes so interfaces is for global/root/system config. knetworkmanager and networkmanager are the bridge for users to be able to manipulate a network device and use it
[05:19] <grendal_prime> ok so i need the interfaces file but i need to comment out everything accept the loopback interface?
[05:19] <flaccid> correct and that is all that is there by default out of box..
[05:19] <grendal_prime> yes i seem to remember something about that now.
[05:20] <flaccid> so in essence, the main feature i want to see in knetworkmanager now is a function to export current interface config back to /etc/network/interfaces . this is handy for making wireless connection on boot etc
[05:20] <grendal_prime> well i think the reason i got into adjusting things in the interfaces file was that i run vbox on this machine and i was briding some things so that i could directly connect to the vm's with ssh.
[05:21] <flaccid> ok
[05:21] <grendal_prime> in not doing that anymore though...at least not right now
[05:24] <Agent_bob> what's a good mirror for downloading debian iso's
[05:25] <Agent_bob> or any distro ?
[05:25] <flaccid> thats off topic
[05:25] <zenrei> can someone tell me where to find /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:25] <bdizzle> .. . in /etc/apt ?
[05:26] <flaccid> zenrei: open konq or dolphin and put in /etc/apt as the location and you will see it
[05:26] <Agent_bob> flaccid i didn't see anyone talking...   sorry if i butted in.
[05:26] <zenrei> thank
[05:27] <mixed1234> anyone here use Hydrogen?  I'm trying to find out if there is a place where I can download beats for hydrogen
[05:27] <flaccid> Agent_bob: thos questions are great for #kubuntu-offtopic its support here for kubuntu :)
[05:27] <jesse_> can anyone explain what the wmaster0 network interface is/does?
[05:28] <illmortal> Does anyone know how to setup shortcut keys for your keyboard on KDE4 as well as change the clock to normal from military time? o.o;
[05:28] <Agent_bob> flaccid you sound like you don't want me here.     if so i can take a hint.
[05:28] <grendal_prime> i wich sun would get stuff together and offer some sort of virtual switch componant for that program.
[05:28] <grendal_prime> it would make everything sooo much easyer..they could really give vmware a run for the money if they had just a virtual switch componant.
[05:28] <zenrei> thanks flaccid I am big noob at linux so thank you
[05:29] <jesse_> illmortal: Kmenu -> System Settings -> Keyboard and mouse -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[05:30] <illmortal> jesse... lol it's horribly limited.
[05:30] <illmortal> i thought there was a different way to modify it.
[05:31] <jesse_> illmortal: then try System Settings -> "Advanced..." tab => Input actions
[05:32] <zenrei> hey flaccid so do i paste this deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu in the sourcelist
[05:32] <zenrei> ?
[05:33] <grendal_prime> by the way flaccid  I just checked...it looks like knetworkmanager writes a new interfaces file if it does not find one.
[05:33] <grendal_prime> it sets the eth0 to dhcp
[05:35] <illmortal> eh... advanced doesn't help.
[05:35] <illmortal> Non-remix version is a lot more user friendly than remix (kde4)
[05:37] <favro> how come I can't profile the boot sequence in hardy like I could in gutsy/feisty/edgy/dapper?
[05:39] <flaccid> zenrei: yep
[05:40] <flaccid> zenrei: join #kubuntu-kde4 for help
[05:40] <zenrei> #kubuntu-kde4
[05:40] <flaccid> zenrei: type /join #kubuntu-kde4
[06:05] <bdizzle> need help with something
[06:05] <bdizzle> my desktop won't let me change the URL of icons at all
[06:05] <bdizzle> it claims I don't have proper permissions
[06:08] <zzl> how do i install vmware in kubuntu
[06:09] <holym0ly> hi, i installed openvz.  now that i've had my share of fun, i want to uninstall it.  how to do so? reason why i want to uninstall is because now i want to go play with Xen =)
[06:09] <zzl> how to install vmware in kubuntu
[06:11] <flaccid> !vmware | zzl
[06:14] <bdizzle_> okay, sweet
[06:15] <zzl> can I run virtualbox in kubuntu as well?
[06:16] <eddieftw> yes zzl
[06:16] <[uBp]Borris> hey fella's
[06:16] <bdizzle_> okay, other question. For some reason, kubuntu is claiming that I do not have write / modify permissions on my desktop folder
[06:17] <zzl> eddieftw: after i install that, can I install windows and browse the internet, or do I still need to set stuff up to do that?
[06:17] <eddieftw> !chmod bdizzle_
[06:17] <eddieftw> !chmod | bdizzle_
[06:18] <eddieftw> yes zzl
[06:18] <bdizzle_> okay
[06:18] <zzl> eddieftw: thank you
[06:18] <bdizzle_> I also have an issue with the trash bin. There are four folders in there  that it again claims it does not have access to
[06:18] <bdizzle_> I'm thinking that the entire home directory is having problems
[06:19] <[uBp]Borris> sounds that way
[06:19] <[uBp]Borris> :S
[06:20] <bdizzle_> how would I check the permissions on the home directory?
[06:20] <bdizzle_> I've done it before, but I dont' remember the command for it
[06:22] <flaccid> bdizzle_: ls -ld ~
[06:22] <bdizzle_> ok
[06:22] <bdizzle_> hmm
[06:22] <bdizzle_> okay, it showing drwxr -xr -x on /home/user directory
[06:23] <bdizzle_> and claims /home is owned by root
[06:23] <[uBp]Borris> okay, home should be owned by root
[06:23] <[uBp]Borris> who is /home/user owned by?
[06:23] <bdizzle_> and the /home/user?
[06:23] <bdizzle_> owned by user
[06:23] <eddieftw> !chown
[06:24] <[uBp]Borris> that's good.... okay.... ummmm
[06:24] <eddieftw> !chown
[06:24] <zzl> wait, say i have the xp cd, I can just use it to install on virtualbox, or do I need to turn it into an .iso again/
[06:24] <bdizzle_> yeah, checking
[06:24] <[uBp]Borris> personally, i would do this: (correct me if i'm wrong)
[06:24] <[uBp]Borris> sudo chown -R user /home/user
[06:24] <flaccid> why change it?
[06:25] <[uBp]Borris> change what? the ownership?
[06:25] <[uBp]Borris> he says it's all messed up
[06:25] <bdizzle_> it won't let me change links to icons on desktop and is having problems with not being able to empty the trash completely
[06:25] <[uBp]Borris> and that's an easy way to get everything within your home directory owned by the user
[06:25] <bdizzle_> both of which saying it doesn't have the permissions
[06:25] <grendal_prime> ok this makes no sence
[06:25] <bdizzle_> hmm?
[06:26] <[uBp]Borris> grendal_prime: how so?
[06:26] <djdarkman> does someone know how can I force firefox to use the language of my choice will spellchecking?
[06:26] <grendal_prime> i was told that knetworkmanager does not have anything to do with the infaces file, but when i adjust the nework settings in knetwork manager it adjusts the interfaces file
[06:26] <bazhang> djdarkman, what language
[06:26] <[uBp]Borris> knetworkmanager DOES affect them
[06:27] <[uBp]Borris> personally, i like wicd. it has an official .deb, it's fast, easy, and even supports WPA
[06:27] <flaccid> how so?
[06:27] <grendal_prime> this is making me nuts
[06:27] <grendal_prime> it flat out does not work..
[06:27] <djdarkman> bazhang: I have installed multiple lanugaees, to use in Open Office, but firefox uses Romanian because I`m in Romania, but I want to use english
[06:27] <[uBp]Borris> flaccid: how so to what?
[06:27] <flaccid> meh
[06:27] <bazhang> djdarkman, check the ff plugin quick locale switcher
[06:28] <djdarkman> thanks bazhang hope it works
[06:28] <grendal_prime> [uBp]Borris: i have openvpn connections i need to make..doe it support that as well?
[06:29] <grendal_prime> [uBp]Borris: i dont see any package called wicd
[06:30] <bdizzle_> you have to download wicd from sourceforge
[06:30] <bdizzle_> it comes as a .deb file, which is good, but you have to uninstall knetwork-manager and network-manager to get it to work
[06:31] <grendal_prime> thought he said it was an office packaged
[06:31] <bdizzle_> for wireless, its a charm, and picks up more networks than knetwork-manager does
[06:31] <grendal_prime> official that is
[06:31] <bdizzle_> no, its not, its 3rd party
[06:31] <grendal_prime> ok here is the thing..i dont use wireless accept for like 1 10th of my work, most of it is done via wired connection.
[06:32] <grendal_prime> or serial cable when im configureing hardware.
[06:32] <grendal_prime> i just need something that will let me turn on the network and connect via an openvpn network. I can even use dhcp in most cases.
[06:33] <grendal_prime> Ive been just adjusting the interfaces file as i need to.
[06:43] <grendal_prime> is anyone left here?
[06:44] <grendal_prime> so basically i rename the interfaces file to something else, restart the network, and hey knetwork manager works great untell i restart the box..then ..its jacked flaky, and the vpn connetion does..well nothing.
[06:44] <zzl> can virtualbox be used to emulate pc games?
[06:44] <grendal_prime> zzl: some
[06:44] <zzl> ok
[06:44] <zzl> thanks for the reply
[06:44] <grendal_prime> i wouldnt want to run like wow on it or something like that
[06:45] <zzl> like counterstrike?
[06:45] <grendal_prime> you need accelerated video for that kinda of stuff..
[06:45] <grendal_prime> i dont think thats possible in a vm enviroment.
[06:46] <zzl> oh yeah, and can you save the operating systems you already loaded in VB once before?
[06:46] <grendal_prime> i run alot of stuff in vm(job requires it) but games, well its just silly to do that.
[06:47] <zzl> one more question grendal
[06:48] <zzl> let's say I shutdown VB and loaded it the next day. Is the os i loaded before going to be there for me to load again?
[06:50] <tekgeeklt> anyone know the program that allows for mp3, picture,video preview by hovering over files
[07:11] <bdizzle> hello
[07:14] <testi_> Kubuntu KDE should not copy Usability Bugs from Windows
[07:14] <testi_> such as 5 times shift opens a weird dialog
[07:18] <nathan_> sup
[07:35] <zzbeers> wtf
[07:45] <kayess> Is this a good place to ask about intrepid, or there a separate channel for that?
[07:47] <jpds> kayess: Try: #ubuntu+1
[07:47] <kayess> Thanks jpds
[07:51] <Daisuke_Ido> that's a new error...  guess i never really go without a fresh install that long
[07:52] <Daisuke_Ido> i ran out of space on /boot
[08:14] <qbit>  /msg NickServ identify qbit
[08:34] <donald> Hey guys, am trying to install Skype but it is an 32-bit program but I am running Kubuntu 8.04.1 64-bit and it's telling me wrong archetecture when installing it. Any way around it? It came in a .deb package.
[09:01] <SmokeEater85911> can anybody help me out with a sound issue?
[09:02] <SmokeEater85911> *twiddles thumbs*
[09:04] <SmokeEater85911> well if anybody is here PM me plz thanks
[09:05] <concernedcitizen> SmokeEater85911: if I learnt anything from being here, don't ask to ask a question.
[09:05] <concernedcitizen> just ask :)
[09:06] <SmokeEater85911> lol k
[09:06] <SmokeEater85911> sorry
[09:07] <SmokeEater85911> I recently installed Kubuntu and cant get all my speakers to work
[09:07] <SmokeEater85911> I have speakers and a subwoofer installed in my laptop but the sub wont play
[09:08] <SmokeEater85911> any ideas, suggestions?
[09:08] <concernedcitizen> can't help you there, no experience with surroun dsound
[09:09] <SmokeEater85911> ive asked on the kubuntu forums too.. no dice
[09:10] <concernedcitizen> try the ubuntu forums?
[09:11] <SmokeEater85911> I figured they would just tell me to go to kubuntu... but they are the same structure right? the only diff is the interface
[09:11] <SmokeEater85911> GNOME vs KDE thats all
[09:11] <SmokeEater85911> a couple people link me to some sites but they arent for my model laptop
[09:13] <SmokeEater85911> I had 1 other problem
[09:13] <SmokeEater85911> when i go into standby or hibernate it never actually does it, the screen goes black but the PC still stays on
[09:14] <SmokeEater85911> any ideas on that one?
[09:14] <SmokeEater85911> the only way to get out of it is to hold the power button and restart
[09:17] <concernedcitizen> Smoke
[09:17] <SmokeEater85911> yeah?
[09:17] <concernedcitizen> I think its a known issue for the ibernation etc.
[09:17] <concernedcitizen> I'm having the same problem as well
[09:17] <concernedcitizen> just shutdown
[09:17] <concernedcitizen> your system
[09:17] <concernedcitizen> the startup speed is equally fast as hibernating in windows
[09:18] <concernedcitizen> and all your applications will load up
[09:18] <concernedcitizen> just as you shut it down
[09:18] <SmokeEater85911> I like to have all my windows up and all and be able to turn it on and boom its ready
[09:18] <SmokeEater85911> yeah, I guess linux DOES boot faster than windows by far
[09:18] <SmokeEater85911> the thing that takes the longes waiting for is the Kubuntu load screen before it actually boots..
[09:18] <concernedcitizen> I'm loving it.
[09:18] <SmokeEater85911> i wish there were a way to shorten the boot time like you could in windows
[09:18] <concernedcitizen> I should reinstall compiz
[09:19] <SmokeEater85911> Compiz doesnt like my video card, so Im gonna leave it alone
[09:19] <SmokeEater85911> compiz made other video things go crazy for some reason
[09:19] <concernedcitizen> so far my kubuntu is a good conversational starter
[09:20] <concernedcitizen> during lectures
[09:20] <SmokeEater85911> haha yeah, "what OS is that?!" heh
[09:20] <SmokeEater85911> nobody has seen something move so clean and fluid
[09:20] <SmokeEater85911> I am still trying to find a cool dock to use
[09:20] <SmokeEater85911> the Kooldock isnt that great
[09:20] <concernedcitizen> I find it interesting that
[09:21] <SmokeEater85911> i wish they made Stardock for KDE
[09:21] <concernedcitizen> playing TF2 over wine, gives me at least 20% performance boost over playing it in windows
[09:22] <SmokeEater85911> really
[09:22] <SmokeEater85911> I need to either figure out how to get windows to allow me a larger partition or buy a 2nd bigger HDD for kubuntu to go on
[09:24] <SmokeEater85911> i have a 250gb hdd, 190gb free but it wouldnt let me make a partition larger than 20gb
[09:24] <SmokeEater85911> er 15gb
[09:27] <SmokeEater85911> i wanna get some new window decorations though
[09:27] <SmokeEater85911> Im tired of the same ole blue
[09:31] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[09:37] <lkbryant> how do i get my ctrl-tab working again on my firefox?
[09:37] <lkbryant> right now, its just switching between desktops
[09:37] <lkbryant> pissing me off
[09:37] <lkbryant> =(
[09:37] <zzl> what's a good linux distro that could read the original unicodes of programs?
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> lkbryant: disable the keyboard shortcut for switching desktops
[09:39] <ActionParsnip> lkbryant: and dont cuss, its a great way to get banned from channels
[09:42] <thefish> my knetworkmanager (intel wireless) refuses to connect to wireless nets, anyone seen/fixed this? wicd works "out the box"
[09:42] <thefish> i get NetworkManager: <WARN>  connection_get_settings_cb(): connection_get_settings_cb: Invalid connection: 'NMSettingIP4Config' / 'method' invalid: 1
[09:42] <arty__> hi all
[09:42] <thefish> hi arty
[09:42] <arty__> caaan anyone help me :)
[09:43] <lkbryant> when did i "cuss" ?
[09:43] <lkbryant> lol
[09:44] <arty__> I have kubuntu :) and if I click on start then Log Of and hibernate everything is ok but if I start PC and log on write pass me network card dont work :(
[09:44] <lkbryant> also, is there any way to create a shortcut to launch the terminal ?
[09:44] <lkbryant> from the keyboard?
[09:44] <arty__> I must restart pc and hnet work fine
[09:44] <lkbryant> im not really a mouse guy =(
[09:44] <lkbryant> and don't tell me to use CLI, i have my reasons for needing a GUI
[09:44] <ActionParsnip> thefish: my netgear is atheros based, its the one at www.efficientpc.co.uk and works out of the box
[09:44] <thefish> ActionParsnip: 8.10?
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> lkbryant: piss me off is cussing
[09:45] <thefish> my intel has always worked flawlessly, just recently its started borking, and it doesnt save stuff in kwallet any more either
[09:45] <arty__> ayone help pls :)
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> thefish: theres a bug i think with intel stuff, check it out
[09:45] <ActionParsnip> !ask | arty__
[09:46] <thefish> lkbryant: ALT+F2 will start the launcher, then type the first few bits of the app you want ie kons...
[09:46] <lkbryant> since when ?
[09:46] <thefish> ActionParsnip: a NM bug? cos i can do it manually just fine, and wicd works perfectly as well
[09:47] <lkbryant> i type terminal in the launcher and it doesnt launch the terminal but a konqueror
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> thefish: i prefer yakuake, launchers are for kids
[09:47] <lkbryant> am i doing something wrong here?
[09:47] <thefish> hehe
[09:47] <arty__> ubottu: sry
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> lkbryant: you are using kde, so its konsole
[09:47] <lkbryant> ahh finally
[09:48] <arty__> WHY IF I HIBERNATE PC and then START DONT work me network card
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> lkbryant: you could also use xterm, there are many
[09:48] <arty__> ActionParsnip: pls help
[09:48] <PolitikerALT> arty: maybe using s2disk could help?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> arty__: you need to tell the nic to wake up when you unhibernate the rig
[09:49] <arty__> ActionParsnip: how ? :) help
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> arty__: get websearching theres LOADS of stuff on hibernation as its a massive pain and a lot of work to get nice
[09:49] <thefish> ActionParsnip: that confused the hell out of me! i thought you meant yukuake as a replacement for NM :D
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> thefish: no, its instead of having a console floating round and getting lost
[09:49] <thefish> ye, looks nice
[09:50] <ActionParsnip> thefish: you can also hide it mid command which rocks
[09:50] <thefish> cool
[09:50] <thefish> not available in the 810 standard repos though
[09:51] <SmokeEater85911> so im not the only guy with suspend/hibernation issues
[09:51] <SmokeEater85911> *whew*
[09:51] <ActionParsnip> thefish: ive got it
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> thefish: sudo apt-get install yakuake
[09:52] <ActionParsnip> SmokeEater85911: everyone does, its 1 of 2 useless things in linux that arent worth the effort imho, suspend and compiz
[09:53] <SmokeEater85911> lol yeah compiz destroyed my last install, had to flush and restore linux
[09:53] <arty__> ActionParsnip: so your advice is turn normal pc
[09:53] <thefish> ActionParsnip: 8.10?
[09:53] <ActionParsnip> !info yakuake | thefish
[09:54] <thefish> ah got it
[09:54] <thefish> mixing up as and us :)
[09:54] <ActionParsnip> arty__: huh?
[09:54] <arty__> anyone use katapult?
[09:54] <thefish> yukuake != yakuake
[09:54] <arty__> why dont work :( if I click al+space dont work :(
[09:55] <arty__> I already kill and new start
[09:55] <ActionParsnip> arty__: got latest updates?
[09:56] <ActionParsnip> arty__: i dont use it so thats all i can suggest, yuo could reinstall it
[09:57] <frido_> I have a screensaver that acts kind of strange, it only starts after I move the mouse after the designated time-out
[09:58] <frido_> and I don't understand why
[09:58] <ActionParsnip> frido_: you all updated?
[09:58] <lkbryant> what is the latest version of kubuntu called?   feisty honey?
[09:58] <frido_> yes
[09:59] <lkbryant> whats the exact name ?
[10:00] <lkbryant> or is it, "etch" ?
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> lkbryant: latest is intrepid ibex
[10:00] <bazhang> latest stable is hardy heron
[10:02] <lkbryant> hmm on xen, whats the latest dist i can use?
[10:02] <lkbryant> im trying to create an virt image
[10:02] <lkbryant> is it, "edgy" ?
[10:03] <bazhang> no
[10:03] <bazhang> it is hardy heron
[10:04] <lkbryant> so on /etc/xen-tools/xen-tools.conf ,  what do i put ? dist   = edgy     # Default distribution to install.
[10:04] <lkbryant> bah whatever, reboot time
[10:09]  * ActionParsnip shrugs
[10:16] <incorrect> hmm do i need to install extra components for dolphin to conenct to smb shares?
[10:16] <incorrect> or konq for that matter
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> incorrect: smbmount
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> incorrect: i guess
[10:19] <jussi01> !samba
[10:19] <havocologe> !svn
[10:19] <havocologe> !package svn
[10:19] <havocologe> what package i have to upgrade if i wanna upgrade my svn shell client?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> how do you get a "compelling replacement" for anything?
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> !find svn
[10:21] <incorrect> weird i just get timeouts
[10:21] <incorrect> sigh
[10:31] <havocologe> !find svn
[10:31] <havocologe> yeah but which of that is the simple console client ?
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> havocologe: no idea, id do a dpkg -l | grep svn to see what you have installed
[11:05] <flaccid> incorrect: looks like a network/dns problem
[11:05] <flaccid> havocologe: svn
[11:06] <incorrect> even with the ip address i can't connect which is very strange
[11:06] <flaccid> incorrect: test with smbclient in konsole
[11:18] <Brootux> Hallo, ich habe mal eine kleine Frage, und zwar habe ich eben mittels Adept das Paket ftpd-ssl (alternativer ftpd mit ssl unterstützung) installiert, nun weiß ich aber nicht wie man diesen einrichten kann...funktionieren tut er zwar schon, das heißt ich kann mich von einem client zum server mittels ssl erfolgreich verbinden, jedoch kommt dann eine fehlermeldung beim clientprogramm: "Opening ASCII mode SSL data connection for /bin/ls"  und
[11:18] <Brootux> danach kommt ein "Timeout detected!" bedeutet das, dass der Client mittels ssl nicht auf ls vom Serversystem zugreifen kann? bitte helft mir :)
[11:18] <bazhang> !de
[11:24] <spasssssgi> ey
[11:24] <spasssssgi> was lauft
[11:24] <spasssssgi> lol
[11:24] <spasssssgi> hallo
[11:26] <favro> !en
[11:27] <spasssssgi> i can not english
[11:27] <jussi01> spasssssgi: german?
[11:27] <spasssssgi> jes
[11:27] <flaccid> !de | spasssssgi
[11:46] <Niksoni> hello ppl
[11:58] <dbglt> is editing my sources file sufficient to upgrade from hardy to intrepid?
[11:59] <flaccid> dbglt: yes
[11:59] <flaccid> !intrepid | dbglt
[12:02] <dbglt> flaccid: thanks
[12:08] <flaccid> np
[12:12] <The_ManU_212> for what are there av solutions like clamav?
[12:12] <The_ManU_212> isnt my system save with default settings after installation?
[12:13] <ghostcube> The_ManU_212: if u dont accepts any files u dont know
[12:13] <ghostcube> u can write viruses for linux too but not this ammount of
[12:13] <ghostcube> only a few
[12:13] <ghostcube> the most in spread are POC
[12:13] <mooper> cut an paste in kubuntu is rubbish
[12:14] <mooper> how do I make it better
[12:14] <mooper> It just doesnt sometimes
[12:14] <mooper> I have to click around and empty the bloody klipper cashe
[12:14] <flaccid> !enter | mooper
[12:14] <The_ManU_212> ghostcube: POC?
[12:14] <ghostcube> proof of concept
[12:14] <ghostcube> only testing viruses
[12:15] <The_ManU_212> ghostcube: whats the sense of a AV for linux?
[12:15] <flaccid> mooper: you could submit a bug, put up with it or see if the app in question is not qt/kde
[12:16] <ghostcube> The_ManU_212: not get infected :D
[12:17] <The_ManU_212> ghostcube: so its recommended to install udner liunux a av and a firewall like udner windows?
[12:20] <ghostcube> nah not recommended
[12:20] <ghostcube> u can use it
[12:20] <ghostcube> but firewall on an linux desktop is to heavy
[12:21] <The_ManU_212> ghostcube: ubuntu offers ufw...
[12:21] <favro> !iptables
[12:21] <payman_> a
[12:22] <flaccid> if you store windows files, particularly executables then AV might be appropriate, otherwise no use
[12:22] <ghostcube> The_ManU_212: i know never used it
[12:22] <ghostcube> i have an nat router :|
[12:23] <ghostcube> so why should i use an fw
[12:23] <payman_> join #ubuntu-ir
[12:23] <The_ManU_212> ghostcube: yep
[12:23] <The_ManU_212> thx
[12:23] <The_ManU_212> ghostcube: have you an av scaner active on your linux?
[12:24] <flaccid> ghostcube: for protection from the LAN :)
[12:25] <ghostcube> flaccid: not on my linux box i use this only on windows
[12:28] <flaccid> true ghostcube
[12:28] <ghostcube> flaccid: if i think my ping is to high i run wireshark rofl
[12:29] <flaccid> heh thats funny
[12:30] <payman> i want ebook about ubuntu can you help me?
[12:30] <ghostcube> flaccid: any idea how to get the vendor of an wlan adapter on an eeepc ?
[12:30] <ghostcube> i thought lspci will show it but nah
[12:33] <flaccid> payman: you can buy ubuntu official guide off ebay
[12:34] <flaccid> ghostcube: does it show in lspci at all?
[12:34] <ghostcube> nope
[12:34] <payman> i cant buy any things bucase im in iran
[12:35] <flaccid> ghostcube: perhaps or lshw or the system logs
[12:35] <flaccid> payman: try google
[12:36] <flaccid> there may be some free ebooks around not sure
[12:36] <payman> thx:)
[12:36] <flaccid> np
[12:40] <ghostcube> flaccid: ok found something on ubuntueee.com
[12:40] <ghostcube> :D
[12:41]  * shentino tiptoes inside for the first time
[12:44] <shentino> hi all
[12:45] <|_void_|> greetings, may i have a question?
[12:45] <flaccid> !ask | |_void_|
[12:48] <etfb> I'm being slowly driven insane by the brutal piece of garbage that is kpvnc.  Does anyone know of an alternative that isn't (a) undocumented and (b) stupid?
[12:48] <flaccid> etfb: perhaps just use the client normally
[12:49] <etfb> flaccid: I don't understand what you mean.  Can you explain further?
[12:49] <flaccid> etfb: if you have no luck with a frontend like kvpnc then perhaps doing it manual with the vpn client direct is more viable
[12:50] <|_void_|> So, i have a problem with kpowersave. I am using KDE 4 and the problem is following: the kpowersave siply ignores if i connect it to an ac adapter. It only sees that the batery is charging but it does not see the adapter. (this happens only if the adapter isnt connected to it when it starts). If i conect the adapter before i boot up it shows the adapter connected.
[12:50] <|_void_|> But if i disconect it while the computer is on, it still thinks that the adapter is connected.
[12:51] <|_void_|> can anyone hepl me?
[12:51] <|_void_|> it worked normaly until now.
[12:51] <flaccid> doesn't look like it
[12:51] <|_void_|> and its not a HW error
[12:51] <flaccid> thus why i suggested without a frontend
[12:52] <etfb> flaccid: Interesting idea.  I'll see what I can come up with.  Thanks.
[12:52] <|_void_|> btw, gnomePowerManager is working normaly
[12:53] <flaccid> etfb: what is the vpn type?
[12:56] <etfb> flaccid: pptp, unfortunately.  The damning part is that I can connect using VPN (apparently) but can't make Remote Desktop work; yet when I try from inside the network, RDP works flawlessly, so I know it's not that.
[12:56] <flaccid> um this has nothing to do with kvpnc then
[12:56] <flaccid> contact the administrator of your vpn
[12:57] <flaccid> vpn access is not necessarily the same as being on the lan
[12:57] <etfb> flaccid: No, if it had nothing to do with vpn, then the rdp would fail no matter where I was.  But since it works when I'm inside the network and not when I'm outside, it's definitely the VPN that's the problem.
[12:57] <flaccid> thats not true either
[12:58] <flaccid> anyway, best t port scan while on the vpn. if it returns closed or filtered....
[12:58] <etfb> It must be.  If RDP works, then it works.  If it doesn't, then it doesn't.  There's no other explanation that doesn't involve pixies and magic.
[12:58] <flaccid> you obviously have nevered configured a vpn
[12:58] <flaccid> or a firewall for that matter
[12:59] <etfb> Sadly, neither has the sysadmin, since it's a total dog's breakfast.  DNS is stuffed, and gods only know how we get the internet working from day to day.
[12:59] <flaccid> then stop blaming kvpnc or the client or whatever and start port scanning and reporting to your vpn admin..
[12:59] <etfb> But since you can't VPN into a network from the inside, what else can I do but keep fiddling with settings?
[13:00] <flaccid> ^^ do the above
[13:00]  * etfb sighs resignedly
[13:00] <flaccid> and yes you can vpn on the lan with a lot of vpns
[13:00] <flaccid> a matter of configuration again
[13:00] <etfb> OK, I'll go find out what "port scanning" is and see what I can do with it.
[13:01] <flaccid> etfb: install nmapfe and nmap and scan the rdp port of the rdp server once connected to the lan
[13:01] <flaccid> i mean once on the vpn
[13:02] <shentino> Oh I get it.  Consent to ask is implied.
[13:03] <etfb> flaccid: Cool, I'll do that.  If all else fails, I'll tell my boss that he needs to hire you, ship you to Canberra and set you loose on our network, on the grounds that you seem to know considerably more than anyone I work with...
[13:03] <shentino> Is this a support channel?  I'm wondering, because this is where konversation's default settings dumped me :P
[13:04] <PolALT> yes, it is
[13:04]  * etfb heads off to learn about nmap and see what a mess the sysadmin has made of his work network (joy)
[13:05] <flaccid> heh im 1 drive from canberra
[13:21] <shentino> ok, so where do I go if I just want to chit-chat rather than tie up a support line?
[13:22] <FoxIII> #kubuntu-offtopic
[13:22] <shentino> thanks
[13:26] <al-amin> hi,,,who use linux here??
[13:27]  * XenThraL resists the urge to be sarcastic
[13:27] <XenThraL> I use linux
[13:28]  * FoxIII thinks XenThraL 'should' be sarcastic :D
[13:29] <XenThraL> I had typed "no this is an apple appreciation channel"
[13:29] <FoxIII> lol
[13:29] <XenThraL> but decided not to press enter
[13:29] <FoxIII> I just had far too many things I wanted to say running around in my head couldn't decide which one to use. lolol
[13:37] <SilentDis> aargh.  I just rebooted my machine, and my choice in resolutions is messed up.  I can only go as high as 640x480. Kubuntu 8.04, Nvidia restricted driver.
[13:37] <SilentDis> tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, that doesn't give vid options anymore.
[13:48] <douglas> can I start amarok an my desktop from my laptop using ssh? I have ssh set up with the desktop as the server. HOW?
[13:49] <|_void_|> does anyone know about an alternative for kpowersave, plz?
[13:49] <SilentDis> douglas: you want to spawn amarok on a laptop that is SSHed into your desktop, right?
[13:49] <douglas> I want to spank amarok on the desktop.
[13:50] <douglas> sending it commands would be nice to so I can change the music. My desktop plays through the house stereo.
[13:50] <SilentDis> douglas: ahh, you're looking to use the ssh term over on your lappy to make amarok open on the desktop correct?
[13:50] <douglas> yes, remote contol like.
[13:51] <douglas> my laptop has wifi
[13:51] <SilentDis> douglas: do you want to then be able to CONTROL the program?
[13:51] <douglas> that would be nice
[13:51] <douglas> I managed to turn it off my killing it with top
[13:51] <SilentDis> douglas: you cannot 'port' programs from one xsession to another.  your option is to VNC into your desktop machine from your laptop (rather than use SSH) and just control it from there.
[13:52] <SilentDis> douglas: or, you can do what i do.  spawn amarok on my lappy and have it play out of the desktop speakers and have full control over it.
[13:53] <SilentDis> douglas: make sense?
[13:54] <douglas> SilentDis: No, how do you send the music to the desktop?
[13:54] <SilentDis> douglas: so... you want to send a file from the laptop machine over to the desktop, then play it with amarok?
[13:55] <Ghis> Hi I just try my connection...
[13:55] <SilentDis> douglas: i must've gotten confused.  can you state what you want as a final end result?  rather than just focus on tools here, that might be easier :)
[13:55] <douglas> SilentDis: All the music, speakers and amarok are on the desktop. I just want to contol the program from my laptop. you say it can't be done withou a remote desktop program, if I understand you.
[13:56] <douglas> hello ghis it works
[13:56] <SilentDis> douglas: you have 2 options.  1-VNC into your desktop machine and just control your whole desktop. 2-spawn amarok on the lappy and it'll play out of the desktop machine.
[13:56] <douglas> ok so how do you do #2?
[13:57] <SilentDis> douglas: desktop machine running kubuntu 8.04.1?
[13:57] <douglas> yes, but lappy would not boot it so it is running lenny
[13:57] <douglas> lenny with kde made to be as much like kubuntu as I could.
[13:58] <SilentDis> douglas: no worries.  on the laptop, `ssh -Y user@host.name`.   then `amarok &`.  it'll pop up and look like it's just another app on the lappy.  when you hit play, it'll come out your desktop speakers.
[13:58] <douglas> nice! Means porting all the music :-( but I can do it.
[13:59] <SilentDis> douglas: no, no porting music
[13:59] <SilentDis> douglas: it's an app running on your desktop.  you've just 'added a screen' to your desktop machine, ala the SSH session.
[13:59] <SilentDis> douglas: (it's a little more complicated than that, but it's an easy analogy)
[14:00] <SilentDis> douglas: you'll have full access to your current amarok music repository, just as if you opened amarok on the desktop.
[14:01] <SilentDis> douglas: the only 'downside' is you have to keep the ssh connection and amarok open on your laptop.
[14:02] <SilentDis> douglas: any questions?  i think i've got my vid issue solved, and i need to restart x :)
[14:03] <SilentDis> douglas: all i hear are crickets from ya.  I will return in 3-5 min, tops.
[14:03] <douglas> SilentDis: it runs like a snail but seems to be comming up. It is complaining about amarok booting slower that normal.
[14:04] <SilentDis> ahhhh, much better :)
[14:35] <mutable> Hello. Is it possible to disable locking session when switching users via KMenu? How? Thanks.
[15:28] <Autoscum> Hey, guys.
[15:28] <Autoscum> I got a problem installing nVidia drivers. Here's the pastebinned log -> http://pastebin.com/m440ec3
[15:28] <Autoscum> I'm using Kubuntu 8.04 with KDE 3
[15:30] <aetern> Maybe use envy command?
[15:30] <Autoscum> Could you please clairify that? :)
[15:33] <BluesKaj> howdy
[15:33] <aetern> you should install envy (apt-get install envy) and use envy command to install ati or nVidia drivers
[15:33] <BluesKaj> !envy
[15:34] <Autoscum> Great. Thanks. :)
[15:35] <nikhil_> hi there
[15:36] <Autoscum> Okay, it's installed.
[15:36] <rafael_> how i install programs in ubnuntu 8.04?
[15:36] <Autoscum> I tried to run it as a command (envyng) but nothing happens.
[15:36] <nikhil_> how is kde environment.  I thought GNome is quite stable in Ubuntu
[15:36] <Autoscum> Rafael, use Adept Manager. :)
[15:37] <aetern> i'm very sad, thad i can't use ubuntu on my laptop, because he freezes (working only 1 key on keyboard - shutdown)...
[15:37] <rafael_> thanks
[15:38] <aetern> rafael, if using ubuntu, use synaptics. It's easy to use! Or you can download .deb installation files (like from opera or skype) and duble click on it.
[15:38] <Autoscum> Yeah, I think Envy's gonna do it. :)
[15:39] <rafael_> how i install the adept manager?? xD
[15:39] <Autoscum> It's already there. :)
[15:39] <Autoscum> Menu -> System - Adept
[15:39] <aetern> arafael, use synaptics (system->administration->synaptics)
[15:39] <Autoscum> I gotta reboot.
[15:39] <aetern> adept is for kubuntu, i think
[15:40] <nikhil__> adept is for K and synaptics is for U
[15:41] <rafael_> i'm installing adept for menu
[15:41] <rafael_> in ubuntu 8.04
[15:43] <dinosaur-rus> hi
[15:45] <rafael_> how i use adept? i'm new user in ubuntu
[15:46] <dinosaur-rus> is there any way to tell the X server that my LCD monitor supports 75 Hz refresh rate? frequency ranges in xorg.conf are set, but no effect so far...
[15:57] <rafael_> how i use adept manager?
[15:57] <ghostcube> rafael_: what u going to do ?
[15:57] <dinosaur-rus> rafael_: what exactly is problematic to you?
[15:58] <vilhelm> what is the command to see if a harddisk is mounted?
[15:58] <bdizzle> hi
[15:58] <bdizzle> I can't get firefox to load anymore after installing firefox 3.0 the other night
[15:59] <ghostcube> bdizzle: try to start in safe mode and deactivate the plugs not compatible
[15:59] <dinosaur-rus> vilhelm: "mount" will show you all mounted devices
[15:59] <bdizzle> how do I open it in safe mode?
[16:02] <rafael_> i need instal echat-0.02_lnx.tgz
[16:02] <rafael_> and clamav-0.93.3.tar.gz
[16:03] <dinosaur-rus> rafael_: Adept has nothing to do with source tarballs
[16:03] <rafael_> and what i do this?
[16:04] <bdizzle> wait, how do you open firefox in safe mode? or do I have to do that from command line?
[16:05] <dinosaur-rus> rafael_: unpack is somewhere and read "INSTALL", "README" or something like that for instructions
[16:06] <bdizzle> when you "purge" something, it should remove all references of that program from your system, right?
[16:07] <Pici> bdizzle: All configurations, except those stored in your users home directory.
[16:08] <bdizzle> okay
[16:08] <bdizzle> so for a perfectly clean install of firefox, I'd need to remove the ones in the home directory too? (already have bookmarks backed up)
[16:09] <Pici> Yep
[16:09] <bdizzle> ok
[16:10] <bdizzle> then restart computer or just X-org?
[16:11] <Pici> bdizzle: You shouldnt need to restart anything just for a firefox purge/reinstall
[16:12] <bdizzle> okay
[16:13] <bdizzle> strange, when I ran the find files / folders for firefox, I have stuff coming up in /etc , /usr/lib, and /usr/share
[16:16] <bdizzle> okay, I tried a purge, removed the .mozilla folder in the home directory, re-installed firefox, and it still won't load. The program crashes out on the loading portion
[16:22] <bdizzle> gah, firefox finally loaded, but its slow
[16:23] <bdizzle> as in non'functional
[16:25] <dinosaur-rus> bdizzle: use Opera :P
[16:25] <bdizzle> lol
[16:27] <BluesKaj> dinosaur-rus, that kind of advice doesn't help the underlying problem
[16:29] <dinosaur-rus> BluesKaj: I know
[16:36] <Richlv> does kubuntu livecd contain any gps related software ?
[16:44] <Denise> is it good to use tripwire?
[16:49] <BluesKaj> Richlv, I doubt it , but you can search on adept or google-linux
[16:52] <bdizzle> Richlv: I don't believe so
[16:52] <bdizzle> but I think you can get some from the repos
[16:52] <bdizzle> okay, firefox should not take five minutes to load, and then one second to freeze up
[16:53] <Pici> bdizzle: Is it using up your CPU when it is loading?
[16:55] <bdizzle> a bit
[16:56] <bdizzle> I tried to enter something into the address bar and it froze after the first "w" in "www.google.com," I clicked on the bookmark link and the cursor froze for a second over it, then gave me an error asking me to terminate the program or wait it out
[16:58] <Ash-Fox> bdizzle, fun.
[16:58] <bdizzle> oh yeah
[16:58] <Melchmon> Would kde4 work well on a 1.6ghz 256mb pc
[16:59] <Ash-Fox> No.
[16:59] <Melchmon> kk
[16:59] <Ash-Fox> Get 1GB of RAM.
[16:59] <Ash-Fox> Although honestly, I don't know why you would use KDE4, it's not ready for production usage.
[17:00] <Melchmon> i heard it was light wight.
[17:00] <Pici> Melchmon: Perhaps you are confusing it with xfce4 ?
[17:00] <Ash-Fox> KDE3 is more 'light weight' than KDE4.
[17:00] <Melchmon> Pici no. I was just wondering
[17:00] <Ash-Fox> Pici, xfce4 is minimal, not light weight :/
[17:00] <Pici> Melchmon: Okay :)
[17:00] <habtool> Ash-Fox, i am running it and it is quite nice, with the beta nvidia drivers and some tweaking. but using kontact/kmail from kde3
[17:01] <Pici> Ash-Fox: I know, but its lighter than KDE
[17:01] <Ash-Fox> Pici, depends on what you run in it. If you're going to run KDE applications in it, no point using it.
[17:01] <Hydrogen> xfce is a waste of space
[17:01] <Pici> Ash-Fox: Of course
[17:01] <Melchmon> Pici, i guess flux wtf
[17:04] <Ash-Fox> habtool, I find the kicker replacement not as 'snappy' and get quite irritated by the current scheming options, as colors and settings aren't quite adjustable like they were in kde3 (I have no idea how to change the color of the panel that replaces kicker for example_.
[17:04] <Ash-Fox> But, due to the fact that certain KDE applications aren't available in KDE4, can't raelly consider it ready yet.
[17:05] <ahox> Melchmon, Ash-Fox: I think KDE4.1 works rather nicely on this kind of machine, I have it running
[17:06] <ahox> Melchmon, Ash-Fox: of course one has to disable the special effects
[17:06] <habtool> Ash-Fox, yes it is a bit limited just now, but at least the who;le setup is quite stable now since 4.1. Not for everyone yet ;) I have a few partitions with other oprtions, so kubuntu and arch are only two with kde4. i just enjoy watching kde4 as it evolves
[17:06] <Melchmon> ahox,  of course
[17:07] <habtool> ahox, with the latest nvidia the compositing is working on my 8600gts, but cant speak for other systems
[17:07] <ahox> Ash-Fox: also the kicker, etc (now called plasma) is configurable since KDE4.1, I wouldn't use 4.0
[17:08] <ahox> habtool: You have a 8600gts in a 1.6GHz 256MB machine? ;-)
[17:08] <Ash-Fox> ahox, I've been using 4.1, still couldn't figure out how to change the color of the panel.
[17:08] <habtool> Ash-Fox, also bonus that one can use kde3 apps in kde4 environment, clever how it all runs ok together
[17:08] <ahox> Ash-Fox: right click on desktop, Desktop-Settings, Desktop Theme
[17:08] <habtool> ahox, no that was not me (i have  dual core 2G ram )
[17:13] <p1p1> ola
[17:14] <p1p1> tudo bem?
[17:14] <Pici> !pt | p1p1
[17:15] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> already tried to install the nvidia drivers following the ubuntu guide, the nvidia guide and the forum... nothing! any help please?
[17:16] <ahox> Do you have the build-essentials?
[17:16] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i guess i do because it was part of one of the guides
[17:16] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i mean one of the guides i followed told to get these essentials
[17:16] <Ekushey> !bd
[17:16] <ahox> strawbeRRy_fieLd:  So what is the error msg?
[17:17] <Ekushey> !bn
[17:17] <Denise> how do we clean our sustem in linux
[17:17] <ahox> !ubottu | Ekushey
[17:17] <Denise> from viruses
[17:17] <Ekushey> Pici, any way to add !bd to the bot?
[17:17] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> the error message was that all my  desktop at the end of the installation was GIGANTIC and in the desktop settings the only available resolution was 400x600
[17:17] <Ekushey> thanks ahox :)
[17:18] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> or 800x600 i dont remember, anyway a gigantic one
[17:18] <ahox> sounds like your xorg.conf is broken
[17:18] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> how do i see it?
[17:19] <ahox> run nvidia-xsettings as sudo
[17:19] <habtool> sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:19] <ahox> or use an old one and change the driver from nv to nvidia
[17:19] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> but now i reinstalled kubuntu because it was the only way to get back to the previous configuration
[17:19] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> so now it should be ok
[17:20] <ahox> strawbeRRy_fieLd: I certainly was not ;-)
[17:20] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> u certainly where not what?
[17:21] <ahox> s/I/It
[17:21] <habtool> in menu, under system, did you try use hardware drivers manager to install the nvidia driver?
[17:21] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> im going crazy... dunno what to do... every one said linux was better linux was faster
[17:21] <ahox> next time read the top of the xorg.conf, it tells you how to reset it
[17:21] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ufff....
[17:21] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> habtool: this is what the ubuntu guide says, but when i open that box there's just nothing!
[17:21] <ahox> strawbeRRy_fieLd: Well, it is, but is most certainly different. And you are trying to do some of the more advanced stuff
[17:22] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i no ahox
[17:22] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> but after i followed all the guides
[17:22] <ahox> strawbeRRy_fieLd: Did you install the nvidia drivers?
[17:22] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i really dunno what else to do
[17:22] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> otherwise i wouldnt be here looking for help
[17:22] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> yes i did install the drivers in the past but then all my  desktop at the end of the installation was GIGANTIC and in the desktop settings the only available resolution was 400x600
[17:23] <habtool> strawbeRRy_fieL do you now the version nvidia card that you have?
[17:23] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> no way to get back to the previous resolution so i had to reinstall
[17:23] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> habtool: geforce 9600 gt
[17:24] <habtool> in adept, did you try install nvidia-glx-new?
[17:24] <ahox> strawbeRRy_fieLd: Install nvidia-glx-new
[17:24] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new ?
[17:24] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> should i type this in the terminal?
[17:25] <ahox> strawbeRRy_fieLd: yes
[17:25] <habtool> then from terminal or alt f2 run : sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf  and make sure the driver is nvidia and not nv or vesa
[17:26] <habtool> sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx-new  from a terminal or adept in gui if easier for you
[17:26] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> cannot i do that from system settings>monitor>hardware and change them from there?
[17:26] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> still dunno what in gui or in universe mean, i did it from the terminal, its installing now
[17:27] <ahox> gui=graphical user interface = not terminal
[17:27] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright it did install now i have to change VESA to nvidia right?
[17:27] <habtool> strawbeRRy_fieLd    do it from a terminal, copy and paste my commands above
[17:27] <habtool> yes
[17:27] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> thank u ahox
[17:27] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> did it
[17:27] <ahox> !universe | strawbeRRy_fieLd
[17:27] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ahox i read it but how do i access the different packages?
[17:27] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> thatz what i dont get
[17:27] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> wait a sec
[17:28] <ahox> Using adept you can set the repositories you want to use
[17:29] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright i went to system settings>monitor>hardware>NVIDIA but geforce 9600 gt is not there
[17:29] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> how do i do?
[17:30] <ahox> strawbeRRy_fieLd: run "kdesu kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[17:30] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> and then pastebin it here?
[17:30] <ahox> sounds good
[17:30] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/39163/
[17:33] <ahox> strawbeRRy_fieLd:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/39164/
[17:33] <ahox> Backup your old file first!
[17:33] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> how du backup it?
[17:33] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> sorry im a newbie
[17:34] <ahox> Use Save As in kate
[17:34] <ahox> and then paste my file, and then use again Save As
[17:34] <ahox> So far I actually only changed one line
[17:35]  * ahox wonders if there is an easier way - there must be....
[17:35] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> did it
[17:35] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> what now?
[17:35] <ahox> Sry I have to go, wish you luck
[17:35] <ahox> logout and log back in
[17:35] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> before u go
[17:35] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> what do i do now?
[17:35] <ahox> if it does not work, save your backup as the new one
[17:35] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright thanks for ur help
[17:36] <ahox> The second thing to try would be to specify the modes on the monitor and screen
[17:36] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: what are you trying to do?
[17:36] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> mneptok: install nvidia drivers
[17:37] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: for what card?
[17:37] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> nvidia geforce 9600 gt
[17:37] <mneptok> in Hardy?
[17:37] <habtool> strawbeRRy_fieLd  have u saved ahox xorg.conf file?
[17:37] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> yep
[17:38] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> but still doesnt let me find geforce 9600 gt in the list in System Settings>Monitor>Hardware
[17:38] <reel_> Hi all, I find all of my kde programs to have mixed languages in Menu (EN and DE). What should I change to have it in English completely ?
[17:38] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: last i knew, the 9600 series was not supported by the nVidia drivers packaged in the repos
[17:38] <mneptok> reel_: remove German language support
[17:39] <habtool> double check that you have the correct driver line in your xorg by typing sudo kate /etc/X11/xorg.conf in terminal
[17:39] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> mneptok: sorry?????
[17:39] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> what u mean? my graphic card is not supported?
[17:39] <bdizzle> strawbeRRy_fieLd: its possible
[17:39] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: the nvidia-glx-new driver packaged in the repositories does not have support for the 960-0 series of nVidia cards, IIRC
[17:39] <ghostcube> strawbeRRy_fieLd: yes with the default repo drivers
[17:39] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> or the 9 series is not supported in the repository and i only have to upload it?
[17:40] <bdizzle> graphics cards are still a hard thing to do in Linux, thanks in part to the manufacturers not offering support for it
[17:40] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> so i only have to update it right?
[17:40] <reel_> mneptok, if I want German as well ?
[17:40] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: and regardless, you should not be editing xorg.conf in Hardy
[17:40] <ghostcube> intel gets better :)
[17:40] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ahox told me to do it
[17:41] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright are u tellin me i have a video card i cant use????
[17:41] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: i think your first order of business is determining which cards/chipsets are supported by the nvidia-glx-new package currently in the Hardy repos
[17:41] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright how do i see that?
[17:41] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i am a newbie dunno anything about this
[17:41] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> sorry
[17:42] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i followed all the guides online and in the end i HAD to get here
[17:42] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: no, you can use it. you may have to use 1). the VESA driver -or- 2). the open source "nv" driver -or- 3). the latest nVidia binary drivers installed via Envy or somesuch
[17:42] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> im going nuts! :D
[17:42] <mneptok> !info nvidia-glx-new
[17:43] <shadowhywind> hay all running intoa bit of a problem. I tried to download a package and now its stuck on update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.24-21-generic even running sudo dpkg --configure -a it freezes
[17:43] <habtool> strawbeRRy_fieLd  it takes some patience and persistence to get into linux, try not get upset when you hit snags. see it has a fun challenge to get things working, esp the proprietary driver blobs/drivers
[17:44] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> u call this a fun challenge? thats a pain in the a....!
[17:44] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: GeForce 9600GT?
[17:44] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> my video card doesnt work, my internet doesnt work, almost nothing works
[17:44] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: blame nVidia, not Linux.
[17:44] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> mneptok: YES
[17:44] <habtool> strawbeRRy_fieLd, most of us what have had these snags too when we first started out in linux ;)
[17:45] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_171.06.html
[17:45] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i can imagine :D
[17:45] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: see how that release of the driver "added support for the 9600 GT?"
[17:45] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> yes
[17:45] <C-Newbie> sorry for post here but there nobody in kubuntu-kde4
[17:45] <C-Newbie> hi i have some problems with my new kde4.1 installation, i have sound only when my session start and when it halt. i have sound with amarok but not with juke and kscd and other ... Apparently i have the same problem : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=894982. At the start there is a message who said that "hda intel 883 analog dosnt work " ... An idea ? Thank for your help .   (and sorry for my realy bad english)
[17:45] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> but i told u already i did follow that guide in the past
[17:45] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: that is the 171.06 release of the nVidia driver. it was released on March 7
[17:46] <habtool> strawbeRRy_fieLd  it is almost ALWAYS the proprietry hardware that makes it a pain until you have learn a few tricks to get the stuff working
[17:46] <mneptok> !info nvidia-glx-new
[17:46] <mneptok> ^^^^ the repos have the 169.x version ^^^^
[17:46] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> hey hey hey give me a brake! :D
[17:46] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i thank u for ur help
[17:46] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: thus, the version of the nVidia driver in the Ubuntu repos does not support your chipset
[17:46] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> whatz my chipset?
[17:47] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> anyway i understand the drivers from the website are more recent than the ones in the repos right?
[17:47] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: you'll want to do some research in Envy, and learn how it works and how to make it work for you. and maybe next time you buy a video card, buy one from a vendor with better policies toward Linux and its users.
[17:47] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> so by installing these drivers from the website it should work, right?
[17:48] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: yes, but you will want to use Envy
[17:48] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> mmm what is that now?
[17:48] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: frantically clicking and installing things is not a good strategy ;)
[17:48] <habtool> strawbeRRy_fieLd  yes, but it is a but more work, so u need to do some reading on forum
[17:48] <mneptok> !envy
[17:48] <shadowhywind> anyone know how to solve a general protection fault: 0000 [1] SMP on dmesg?
  you need to edit the xorg.conf and put the vesa driver back instead of the nvidia one that you put in as per ahox, as you will have a broken xserver if you reboot now
[17:50] <mneptok> habtool: Hardy users should not be editing xorg.conf
[17:51] <habtool> if you know how, copy the backup one that ahox told you to make
  ok, but he has allready
[17:51] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-new
  yes i was about to tell him too do that next :)
[17:51] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: then, boot the machine, press <esc> to get the GRUB menu at boot, and boot to recovery mode. choose "xfix" from the menu there.
[17:52] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> oh f.....! lol
[17:53] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> cannot i just install the new nvidia drivers on top of the ahox ones?
[17:53] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: i think a more appropriate question is "if you're calling yourself a newb, why aren't you following instructions?" ;)
[17:54] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: sudo apt-get remove nvidia-glx nvidia-glx-new
[17:54] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: then, boot the machine, press <esc> to get the GRUB menu at boot, and boot to recovery mode. choose "xfix" from the menu there.
[17:54] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: those 2 steps are first.
[17:55] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i did step one
[17:55] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> for step 2 i copied back in xorg.conf the backup ive done before
[17:55] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: OK, so now reboot. you'll see the GRUB menu countdown. press <esc>
[17:55] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> was that right?
[17:55] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: then, boot the machine, press <esc> to get the GRUB menu at boot, and boot to recovery mode. choose "xfix" from the menu there.
[17:55] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ok im doing it right away
[17:56] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> thank you
[17:56] <mneptok> np
[17:56] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> brb
[17:56] <mneptok> let's spend some time composing a love poem to nVidia
[17:56] <emiliafaneite> hello
[17:57] <mneptok> nVidia, nVidia, i'm Kurt von Finck. your hardware's overpriced and your drivers stink. you don't really care what Linux users think. so to us your cards are as useful as a sink.
[18:00] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: wb
[18:00] <habtool> mneptok, there are exceptions to the do not edit xorg.conf too :) http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118088
[18:00] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright done it
[18:00] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> can u re/give me that link about the geforce 9 series u gave me wwith the instructions_
[18:00] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> alright now my keyboard doesnt work well >D
[18:00] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: you'll want to use Envy to install the latest nVidia drivers
[18:01] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ok
[18:01] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> but i was taking a look at that link
[18:01] <mneptok> !info envyng
[18:02] <mneptok> !info envy-ng
[18:02] <mneptok> bah
[18:02] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> i didnt see it before
[18:02] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: http://www.nvidia.com/object/unix.html  <--- nVidia's Unix drivers page
[18:02] <Pici> !info envyng-qt
[18:02] <Pici> mneptok: ^
[18:03] <Pici> or -gtk for gnomey people
[18:03] <mneptok> strawbeRRy_fieLd: i then just looked through their release archive to see what release introduced support for the 9600. and it is, indeed, a newer release than is in the repos.
[18:03] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> ok
[18:03] <mneptok> Pici: fankee sahib
[18:03] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> im searching it now
[18:04] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> it asks linux 32 bit or 64 how do i no_
[18:04] <habtool> uname -m from terminal
[18:06] <habtool> mneptok should he not use envyng-qt from repos?
[18:06] <amigo> Hello! How to disable kaffeine cpdec installer?
[18:06] <amigo> *codec
[18:06] <ghostcube> good question
[18:07] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> it says i686 what does it mean_
[18:07] <habtool> x32
[18:07] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> 32 bit_
[18:08] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> it means i have 32 bit
[18:08] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> right____
[18:11] <amigo> ghostcube, kaffeine have unlimited loop to check installed codecs :(
[18:12] <ghostcube> yes for me and hundred others too
[18:12] <ghostcube> havent found an patch or update till now
[18:12] <ghostcube> :(
[18:20] <Richlv> bluszcz, bdizzle thanks
[18:20] <Richlv> oops
[18:21] <ghostcube> amigo: are u trying to acess files over network :)
[18:23] <amigo> ghostcube, yes. I try to open http://.../some.avi ))
[18:47] <weyland> hi! i want an overview about wlan usb sticks that can be used with the linux kernel drivers. can anyone help me? i think there was a webpage with an overview...
[18:48] <falcon_> does anyone know how to make the wireless card work with kubuntu
[18:48] <weyland> \join gentoo.de
[18:49] <falcon_> ok any nbeautiful lady in this place??
[18:51] <falcon_> any1 alive in this here place?
[18:51] <Reisei> falcon_: yep
[18:52] <falcon_> hey reisei
[18:52] <Reisei> Hello, folks!
[18:52] <falcon_> reisei m/f?
[18:52] <Reisei> falcon_: m
[18:53] <falcon_> do u know anything about making the wireles card work with kubuntu
[18:55] <falcon_> any hot ladies from NY?
[18:55] <Pici> falcon_: Please don't.  This is a support channel.
[18:55] <falcon_> what support no one is chatting
[18:56] <Reisei> falcon_: no, i'm sorry. But Kubuntu is easy system...
[18:56] <falcon_> then why can i get my wireless to work
[18:56] <falcon_> i cant find the drivers anywhere
[18:57] <PolitikerALT> Which wireless card is it?
[18:57] <falcon_> i read something about a converter
[18:57] <falcon_> broadcom
[18:57] <falcon_> on an HP laptop
[18:58] <Reisei> Pici: can you support falcon_? I have a language barrier ^_^
[18:58] <PolitikerALT> broadcom - I think I got such a wireless network card too - I've installed the package "b43" because you need a proprietary firmware
[18:59] <falcon_> where can i get this b43 online?
[18:59] <Pici> If you can't get support here, if its not a KDE specific question you can ask in #ubuntu as well.
[18:59] <falcon_> thank you all
[19:00] <PolitikerALT> maybe this should help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Gutsy
[19:01] <falcon_> thank you politikeralt
[19:01] <PolitikerALT> sorry, this is too old: http://ubuntu.cafuego.net/ and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/Hardy should be better
[19:03] <PolitikerALT> *could
[19:05] <Reisei> oh! Any know something material about how to configure ALSA with two sound cards?
[19:06] <BraveSpear> Hey anyone know how to modify dexconf?
[19:07] <Reisei> BraveSpear: modify ... for what?
[19:09] <xis0x> SB know where Kubuntu installs OpenArena ?
[19:09] <xis0x> Need it for PB Update.
[19:09] <BraveSpear> well.. I need to set screen resolution and refresh rate on a livecd i'm creating.  From what I understand, dexconf creates the xorg.conf on the fly.. I need to know how to have the livecd boot with a resolution of 1024x768 x 16bit color with 60hx frefresh rate
[19:09] <smail> а по русски кто нить может?
[19:10] <Reisei> smail: of course, but it's international chanel.
[19:10] <smail> sorry
[19:10] <xis0x> SB know where Kubuntu installs OpenArena ? <---
[19:11] <Reisei> BraveSpear: hmm... that's interesting. And what resolution do you have now?
[19:14] <BraveSpear> When it boots up, it auto detects the monitor and vid card, and dynamically sets the resolution, refresh and color depth on the fly. If it worked on all pc's, then it wouldn't be an issue (the livecd is one I am creating for our work-at-home users that need to access citrix via a web browser through vpn).
[19:16] <BraveSpear> the cd is mostly finished, but the quirky issues where the screen resolution isn't being reported correctly and nothing displays on the users pc.  Per my employer, it needs to run on 95% of our users home pc's.. to do that I would like to hard code the resolution/refresh/color as described above.
[19:16] <Reisei> BraveSpear: may be you should use just one xorg.conf if you need such settings?
[19:16] <xis0x> Seems to be a problem with xorg.conf....I needed hours to get my Graka working..
[19:17] <BraveSpear> That would be fine with me.. do you know how to disable dexconf from running so I can just have the generic xorg.conf?
[19:17] <xis0x> Safe booting ?
[19:17] <Reisei> BraveSpear: I'm sorry, but I don't know...
[19:18] <Reisei> BraveSpear: I think, you should search for it in rc scripts..
[19:18] <BraveSpear> As a work-around I am using the XFORCEVESA kernel mode option, but that only gives 800x600 resolution.. unless you know of a way to set it at 1024x768, which would also be fine.
[19:19] <xis0x> Bravespear you ve to Config it in the xorg.conf
[19:19] <xis0x> And in usplash.conf
[19:19] <wishie> i was talking to someone in here yesterday, about the 'special keys' on my HP notebook
[19:20] <BraveSpear> xis0x: I have no usplash.conf on my livecd (kubuntu hardy derivative)
[19:20] <wishie> wanted to say that ive figured out what program crashes (that stops the keys working) and ive figured out _when_ it crashes.. but not why
[19:20] <xis0x> Then killl the Programm :P
[19:21] <xis0x> I ve to kill trackerd on booting or it will lag..:D
[19:21] <SitUbuntuSit> but that's murder
[19:21] <Reisei> btw, any know about how to configure rc scripts in Ubuntu? I just remember how it was in Gentoo %)
[19:21] <BraveSpear> Gentoo... *shivers up spine*
[19:22] <wishie> i use gentoo on everything but this laptop
[19:22] <BraveSpear> Wishie: You are a brave soul.  I only use it on servers.
[19:23] <Reisei> BraveSpear: I use it on my Desktop ^_^
[19:23] <wishie> BraveSpear: well, i got sick of using other distros.. so i decided to give gentoo a go.. got hooked, the rest is history
[19:23] <Reisei> BraveSpear: *used
[19:23] <wishie> BraveSpear: as for this laptop though, i couldnt be stuffed setting it up. so kubuntu it was :P
[19:24] <BraveSpear> I started with gentoo, but I hated having to fix it every week when I emerged any updates.
[19:24] <wishie> hmm, does anyone know where i change the mapping of my laptop keys in KDE ?
[19:25] <Reisei> BraveSpear: you shouldn't update (emerge world) gentoo every week....
[19:25] <BraveSpear> maybe that was my problem then :P
[19:25] <Reisei> wishie: You've right... Kubunt is nice system.
[19:26] <wishie> Reisei: it was a nice simple solution for quick install on my laptop
[19:26] <Reisei> BraveSpear: I have such problems, but I update it just once in a month.
[19:26] <ahmos> hi, what is qt4 and gtk ..and what is the diffrence plz?
[19:27] <BraveSpear> I got to the point that my server was working.. I didn't do updates to it anymore..
[19:27] <JanMalte> can i use a encrypted system as a server?
[19:27] <wishie> ahmos: gui toolkits. GTK is for 'gnome' apps generally. QT is for KDE stuff
[19:27] <JanMalte> i want to reinstall my ubuntu with encrypted lvm and use it as a lokal webserver
[19:28] <ahmos> wishie i'm using kde and i have a program with 2 versions ,one gtk and another qt4, so i should use qt4 version
[19:28] <Pici> Yes, generally.
[19:29] <ahmos> ok ,thank you all
[19:29] <JanMalte> Can you use an encrypted Ubuntu with LVM as a webserver too? Or only with an unecrypted system?
[19:36] <uoaphys> Hi, in KDE4.1, how do I use a 12 hour clock instead of a 24hr clock?
[19:37] <wishie> interesting...kmilo is what controls my multimedia keys in kubuntu.. but i cant find out how to configure what each button does.
[19:37] <uoaphys> ﻿Hi, in KDE4.1, how do I use a 12 hour clock instead of a 24hr clock?
[19:42] <TimS> I have a bunch of wmas that play fine through Amarok, but Amarok wont add them to its collection, is there a way to make it add them?
[19:44] <BraveSpear> is there a wiki out ther for dexconf?
[20:03] <ecasillas__> 1
[20:04] <ale22944>  Hi!! Does anybody knows if is it possible to create a iso file of my kubuntu os with all my options installed and of course installable (just in case of crash..)? Thanks all!
[20:04] <paul__> hi does anyone know a good disc parition manager i can get from the rep?
[20:05] <ecasillas__> like Gparted?
[20:05] <paul__> not sure never used one in linux before, is it a good one?
[20:06] <ale22944> sudo spt-get install gparted
[20:06] <ale22944> well working one
[20:07] <ecasillas__> yes its good http://gparted.sourceforge.net/
[20:08] <paul__> thank you, also i accidently got rid of the task bar, how do i get it back?
[20:09] <Denise> lol
[20:09] <paul__> its just gone lol
[20:10] <paul__> cannot minimise anything as i cant get it back!
[20:10] <Denise> lol
[20:10] <Denise> begin with partitionning
[20:10] <Denise> my advice
[20:11] <Denise> try alt f1
[20:11] <paul__> nothing
[20:11] <Denise> or go in ur bios and change the settings for tools bar back
[20:11] <Denise> and give me news
[20:11] <paul__> bios?
[20:11] <Denise> kidding
[20:12] <ecasillas__> I thought it was alt f2
[20:12] <abby87> !kpartx
[20:13] <Denise> it is alt + something
[20:13] <Denise> try all ur typos
[20:13] <Denise> that's what i do
[20:13] <ecasillas__> alt f2 xfce4-panel
[20:14] <Denise> + ctl + esc
[20:14] <abby87> paul__: wic version of kde ar u using?
[20:14] <BlackTulipGirl> hi new to kubuntu, installing it as we speak on my acer aspire 3620, is it normal for it to take a long time in each part of the install screen? (Choose lang, then Where are you to set time, etc.)
[20:14] <paul__> using 4.1
[20:14] <SmokeEater85911> cany anybody here help me with a sound issue.. ive been working on it for days with no luck
[20:15] <Denise> lol
[20:15] <abby87> BlackTulipGirl: it depends on ur system
[20:15] <Denise> I have sound but no dance anybody has a clue?
[20:15] <BlackTulipGirl> I'm installing 4.1...ok
[20:15] <BlackTulipGirl> so could it take days then?
[20:16] <abby87> paul__: is the whole panel missing or just the task manager?
[20:16] <Denise> max 48hours tulip
[20:16] <abby87> BlackTulipGirl: ha no...
[20:16] <paul__> abby; i did it myself, right clicked it and removed it so i could click on something. now i cannot get it back!
[20:16] <SmokeEater85911> I have sound in my speakers but not in my sub, I have a sub inside my laptop
[20:17] <BlackTulipGirl> ok
[20:17] <BlackTulipGirl> thank you
[20:17] <Denise> I have sound in one of my subpartitons
[20:17] <abby87> paul__: unlock widgets
[20:17] <Denise> but not in my swap is it normal?
[20:17] <abby87> paul__: then right click on desktop>add panel
[20:17] <paul__> how do i do that abby?
[20:18] <abby87> paul__: right click anywhere on desktop and click on unlock widgets
[20:18] <paul__> ok got that, and now i have made another panel but still cannot see the apps when i minimise them?
[20:18] <Denise> and unlock all ur bins
[20:18] <abby87> paul__: ok thats no big prob
[20:18] <SmokeEater85911> anybody have any idea?
[20:18] <paul__> its not?
[20:19] <Denise> what is a sub in a laptop
[20:19] <ecasillas_> Smoke, you have all the drivers>
[20:19] <abby87> paul__: richt click on panel> add widgets
[20:19] <paul__> ok
[20:19] <abby87> paul__: add taskmanager
[20:19] <abby87> add system tray also
[20:19] <Denise> Paul do u have operamotifwrapper, could be that
[20:19] <abby87> application launcher menu also
[20:20] <paul__> ahhh genius, thanks abby
[20:20] <SmokeEater85911> how do i know if I have all the ones I need?
[20:20] <abby87> paul__: ;)
[20:20] <Denise> u type ASK: do I have all drivers
[20:20] <Denise> the shell will anser
[20:20] <abby87> SmokeEater85911: try command alsamixer
[20:21] <SmokeEater85911> it recognizes a form of sound card when I run alsamixer
[20:21] <Denise> + applet
[20:21] <SmokeEater85911> it says Realtek ALC268
[20:21] <SmokeEater85911> HDA Intel card
[20:21] <Denise> anybody knwows how coem I dont find misspeggyplugin-nonfree?
[20:22] <jpds> Denise: Flash?
[20:22] <Denise> mozzflash for blind people yes
[20:23] <SmokeEater85911> so now what?
[20:23] <paul__> i am using 4.1 but would like to revert back to standard version at the moment. is this possible wihtout reinstalling ?
[20:24] <Denise> i have problems with my mouse
[20:24] <Denise> yes
[20:24] <Denise> just type -4.1
[20:24] <abby87> paul__: i guess so
[20:24] <paul__> how would i go about it abby?
[20:25] <RurouniJones> paul__: You need to install the kde-3.5.9 package and remove the kde4 one.
[20:25] <RurouniJones> You should find some example commands on google
[20:25] <abby87> ya
[20:25] <RurouniJones> and Denise: Will you stop wasting everyone's time?
[20:25] <abby87> paul__: i suggest u stickin to 4.1
[20:25] <paul__> ruroun, can i do that from adept?
[20:25] <Denise> yes
[20:26] <ghostcube> paul__: on kubuntu.org is an howto to upgrade and there are the packages just deinstall them will remove it i think so
[20:26] <Denise> was just relaxing and laughing a lil
[20:26] <Denise> I stop now
[20:26] <RurouniJones> paul__: Maybe, but I doubt it, probably have to use apt-get
[20:26] <RurouniJones> Ya, what ghostcube said
[20:26] <paul__> ok, as a newbie i think i installed the wrong one tbh, should have gone with the stable version!
[20:27] <Denise> tbh?
[20:27] <Denise> what is it
[20:27] <Guest70875> hmmm
[20:27] <abby87> to be honest i guess
[20:27] <abby87> tbh = to be honest ???
[20:27] <paul__> yep
[20:27] <ecasillas_> try this sudo apt-get purge remove kubuntu-kde4-desktop
[20:27] <ForgeAus> bad nickname for it to choose for me root! some servers don't let you join with that one
[20:27] <abby87> paul__: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=730734
[20:27] <SmokeEater85911> Anybody know how to get my built-in subwoofer to work?
[20:28] <Denise> what is the buil-in for menu when ubuntu doesnt boot
[20:28] <Denise> built-in
[20:28] <abby87> Denise: do u mean grub?
[20:28] <Denise> ah
[20:28] <RurouniJones> ForgeAus: If it gave you root that probably means you are running as root...
[20:29] <Denise> it was grub?
[20:29] <abby87> Denise: yup its the grub bootloader
[20:29] <Denise> I didnt know what to do with it
[20:29] <RurouniJones> ForgeAus: Yes, you are most likiely running as root based on your whois infor
[20:29] <RurouniJones> I would look into that
[20:29] <Denise> ok
[20:29] <Denise> so
[20:29] <abby87> Denise: there is an online guide to fix it by reinstalling grub
[20:29] <ecasillas_> Try this smoke, seems to be a driver problem https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HdaIntelSoundHowto
[20:29] <Denise> when I will intsll kubuntu with the cd
[20:29] <ForgeAus> hehe Runouni its ok I know andLinux isn't secure
[20:30] <Denise> I will have a window for partitionning?
[20:30] <Denise> reinstalling grub?
[20:30] <Denise> what is the online guide
[20:30] <SmokeEater85911> K thanks Ill try to update alsa
[20:30] <Denise> we never know what could happen
[20:30] <abby87> Denise: u mean ur grub stopped working ?
[20:31] <Denise> I have a line command to enter
[20:31] <Denise> for built-in
[20:31] <Denise> my system
[20:31] <RurouniJones> ForgeAus: I wasn't being sarcastic, you really are probably running as root
[20:31] <RurouniJones> which is a bad thing(tm)
[20:31] <Denise> well
[20:32] <abby87> Denise: so whenever u startup ur comp u r left with a menu sort of a command line thing?
[20:32] <ForgeAus> Rorouni yes I know I am... like I said I know andLinux isn't secure
[20:32] <Denise> that,s what happend
[20:32] <abby87> Denise: instead of a choice of OS
[20:32] <Denise> yes
[20:32] <RurouniJones> Actualy Linux is pretty secure but most of the security is for naught when you run as root all the time
[20:32] <abby87> Denise:and it happened suddenly without any warning...one fine day i mean
[20:32] <abby87> Denise: right
[20:32] <abby87> ?
[20:32] <Denise> yes
[20:33] <Denise> everything was nice
[20:33] <abby87> Denise: u need to reinstall grub from a live cd
[20:33] <nejode> Denise: does the prompt say BusyBox?
[20:33] <Denise> than pidgin starts to kaput
[20:33] <Denise> yes
[20:33] <SmokeEater85911> how do I find the current version of alsamixer installed?
[20:33] <ForgeAus> Rurouni andLinux is like an embedded Linux from within windows... it runs as root for the most part...
[20:33] <maelcum> hi. i'd ike to install intrepid on a device mapper raid system. is that possible without too much hacking?
[20:33] <Denise> BosyBox
[20:33] <abby87> Denise: wait i'll find the link
[20:33] <maelcum> ubiquity doesn't seem to do it out of the box [there is no kubuntu alpha cd, alas]
[20:34] <Denise> and I didnt know what to do with it
[20:34] <RurouniJones> aah right, I thought you were tlking about linux in general and being sarcastic :) Now I get you
[20:34] <nejode> Denise: then you're in a tight spot!
[20:34] <Denise> oh
[20:34] <Denise> thight
[20:34] <Denise> how come
[20:34] <ForgeAus> Rorouni if you need more info google it
[20:34] <Denise> tight
[20:34] <RurouniJones> Already did
[20:35] <Denise> u think I will have to reinstall grub?
[20:35] <SmokeEater85911> does anybody know how to check what version of Alsamixer i have installed??
[20:35] <Denise> but I would prefer delete all ubuntu
[20:35]  * ForgeAus grinz
[20:35] <Denise> and restart with kubuntu in a new life
[20:35] <ForgeAus> purekde is nice imho :)
[20:35] <nejode> Denise: you'll have to remove the words "quiet" and "splash" from the kernel command line
[20:35] <abby87> Denise: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html#Installing-GRUB-natively
[20:35] <Denise> what the hell
[20:36] <ForgeAus> !purekde
[20:36] <Denise> but I already put splash in my new windows C folder
[20:36] <ForgeAus> Denise, from Ubuntu -> kubuntu use purekde (as per the ubouttu link just posted)
[20:36] <payman> #ubuntu-ir
[20:36] <Denise> do I have a url catcher in Konversation
[20:36] <nejode> abby87: if Denise has a BusyBox prompt it's not a grub issue
[20:36] <ForgeAus> Denise you can't type?
[20:36] <RurouniJones> paul__: That page ubottu just pasted will tell you how to remove KDE4
[20:37] <Denise> I m ok
[20:37] <nejode> ...it's ussually caused by a bad module
[20:37] <abby87> Denise: this link is beter http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24113
[20:37] <Denise> but I dont have time to read those links now
[20:37] <abby87> nejode: ohh ya it almost eluded my mind ;)
[20:38] <ghostcube> Denise: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-kde4-desktop --purge
[20:38] <abby87> nejode: must be busybox but if grub then reinstallation of grub might fix things
[20:38] <ForgeAus> oh well I'm not so sure I like ksirc, seems to work but konversation is nicer...
[20:38] <Denise> ok I got them in my url catcher
[20:38] <ForgeAus> brb.. checking if I got others hehe
[20:38] <Denise> are they saved automaticly?
[20:38] <nejode> Denise: first you have to find what's causing the kernel to drop to a busybox prompt
[20:39] <nejode> ...so you can fix it
[20:39] <ghostcube> paul__:  sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-kde4-desktop --purge
[20:39] <ghostcube> sorry Denise
[20:39] <nejode> ...and the preferred way is to read the kernel messages
[20:39] <paul__> ghost is that the only command i need?
[20:39] <ghostcube> try if it reoves all with it
[20:40] <Denise> the busybox was the kernel message?
[20:40] <ghostcube> should do the trick
[20:40] <nejode> ...up to the point theat the booting halts
[20:40] <Denise> but when I booted manually
[20:40] <paul__> do i then need to install kde 3?
[20:40] <Denise> it told me I had rebooted too many times
[20:40] <ghostcube> havent u already installed it ?
[20:40] <abby87> gotta go guys bye :)
[20:40] <ForgeAus> hey all I'm back :)
[20:40] <paul__> i installed 4.1 from disc
[20:40] <ForgeAus> hmm kvirc better :) this is more like mIRC
[20:40] <Denise> and I just have to reboot very elegantly in windows
[20:40] <ghostcube> then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[20:41] <Denise> so i was very elegant
[20:41] <ForgeAus> even has built in terminal windows :)
[20:41] <Denise> and it told me a false command for my windows run command line
[20:41] <Denise> so that kernel and grub are damn tricky
[20:42] <Denise> do I have a big virus
[20:42] <Denise> like a big alien ?
[20:42] <nejode> alien vs predator
[20:42] <Denise> yes sort of
[20:43] <Denise> and finally it appeared to be my mouse
[20:43] <Denise> who ate the cheese
[20:43] <Denise> so now I lil mixed up
[20:43] <Thunderhacker> Anyone here good with xorg problems?
[20:43] <Denise> hopefully i dont have buffers
[20:44] <KRF> !ask Thunderhacker
[20:45] <Thunderhacker> KRF: ?
[20:46] <KRF> dont ask for help, state your problem
[20:46] <Thunderhacker> ok
[20:46] <Thunderhacker> sorry
[20:46] <Thunderhacker> the problem I'm having is xorg is running at 1280x800 (the proper resolution for my laptop) but KDE seems to think it's running at 1024x768
[20:47] <Thunderhacker> everything in KDE is offset to the upper left corner
[20:47] <Denise> everything?
[20:47] <Thunderhacker> yes
[20:47] <Denise> omg
[20:47] <Denise> you tried to pray?
[20:47] <Thunderhacker> when I maximize a window it only fills 2/3 or so of the screen
[20:47] <Denise> oh no
[20:48] <Denise> dont tell me it is what will happen with mine soon
[20:48] <Denise> pity!!!!!!!!!
[20:49] <Thunderhacker> if I right-click > configure desktop and click identify I get 2 numbers, "1" in the middle of the "kde" part of the screen, and "2" in the middle of the real screen
[20:49] <Thunderhacker> I've searched the internet all morning and haven't found anything even close to the problem I've got
[20:49] <Denise> where do we adjust the screen here?
[20:50] <Denise> 1 and 2
[20:50] <Denise> oh
[20:50] <ecasillas_> do you have a black square on the desktop?
[20:50] <Thunderhacker> ecasillas_: no
[20:51] <Thunderhacker> let me try to take a screenshot
[20:52] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: what grafic card is this
[20:52] <ghostcube> what drivers are u running
[20:52] <ghostcube> and can u post ure xorg.conf to nopaste.info
[20:52] <Thunderhacker> intel driver
[20:52] <ghostcube> ok
[20:52] <Thunderhacker> one sec I'll get the lspci
[20:52] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: but u dont have enabled compiz or ?
[20:53] <Denise> u fake well
[20:53] <Denise> ok gtg
[20:53] <Denise> byes
[20:53] <Thunderhacker> give me a minute I'll pastebin the xorg.conf and lspci
[20:53] <ghostcube> np
[20:53] <Denise> and dont evn try to pidgin me
[20:53] <ghostcube> :-?
[20:54] <ecasillas_> adio
[20:54] <ecasillas_> s
[20:54] <Denise> adios
[20:54] <Denise> for ever
[20:55] <coreymon77> Denise: bye
[20:56] <ghostcube> never say never :D
[20:56] <Memory_Moron> adios for ever, lol.
[20:56] <Thunderhacker> http://nopaste.info/71bb758a87.html
[20:56] <Memory_Moron> Enjoy Canada?
[20:56] <Thunderhacker> let me upload the screenshot somewhere
[20:57] <coreymon77> Memory_Moron: huh?
[20:57] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: thi could not be ure xorg.conf file
[20:57] <ghostcube> :D
[20:58] <Thunderhacker> it is
[20:58] <Memory_Moron> coreymon77: Making fun of denise.
[20:58] <Thunderhacker> http://webpages.charter.net/ashlandpc/snapshot1.png
[20:58] <ghostcube> what ? wth
[20:58] <ecasillas_> did you try dpkg-reconfigure Xorg
[20:58] <Thunderhacker> I did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and that's the config it gave me
[20:59] <ghostcube> uff
[20:59] <ghostcube> pls post /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:59] <Thunderhacker> one second...
[21:00] <ghostcube>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[21:00] <ecasillas_> or try http://www.xfree86.org/releases/rel470.html
[21:01] <ghostcube> ??
[21:01] <ghostcube> why would he want this
[21:01] <Thunderhacker> http://nopaste.info/f72927a848.html
[21:02] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: running that command now...
[21:02] <Thunderhacker> gave me a warning about overwriting a possibly customized version
[21:03] <ghostcube> normal
[21:03] <Thunderhacker> should I restart X now or is there something else you want me to try first?
[21:03] <ghostcube> restartx and i saw u used xrandr
[21:03] <ghostcube> what have u been trying
[21:04] <guga> Hi! I've a doubt with the terminal commands
[21:04] <Thunderhacker> anything I could find that mentioned resolution problems
[21:04] <Thunderhacker> all with no luck
[21:05] <Thunderhacker> I've been trying to get this working all day
[21:05] <ecasillas_> wrong post sry!
[21:05] <ghostcube> can u post the xorg.conf again after it was reedited
[21:05] <Thunderhacker> one second
[21:05] <ghostcube> guga: ??
[21:05] <guga> Does anybody knows if there are restricted command lines? That if I don't log as root, the system will tell me that it doesn't recognize the command
[21:06] <guga> ?
[21:06] <coreymon77> guga: dont think so
[21:07] <coreymon77> guga: but there are many commands that as long as you dont log in as root, you will get access denied
[21:07] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: http://nopaste.info/22107898cb.html
[21:07] <guga> Because my parents have an XO, and I accidentally disconnected from the mesh
[21:07] <guga> So I tried to reconfigure it using iwconfig
[21:07] <guga> But it says that it doesn't recognize the command
[21:08] <coreymon77> iwconfig isnt recognized?
[21:08] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: :|
[21:08] <guga> Yeap
[21:08] <ghostcube> youre system loads correect
[21:08] <coreymon77> try using sudo then
[21:08] <ghostcube> the logfile is ok
[21:08] <guga> And even in the wiki of XO says to use that command
[21:08] <guga> The problem is my parents don't know the password, nor do I
[21:09] <guga> apparently when they received the laptop, they just had to put their usernames, no pass
[21:09] <coreymon77> unless you changed it
[21:09] <coreymon77> root pass=user pass
[21:10] <guga> I'll try
[21:10] <Thunderhacker> oh, ghostcube: let me post a screenshot of kdesktop identifying screens
[21:10] <Thunderhacker> it's odd, to say the least
[21:10] <Thunderhacker> one sec
[21:10] <ghostcube> im editing the xorg.conf
[21:10] <ghostcube> backup the one u have i will post the new one if this changs anything
[21:11] <Thunderhacker> ok
[21:12] <ghostcube> whats the reso 1680x800?
[21:12] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: http://webpages.charter.net/ashlandpc/snapshot2.png
[21:12] <Thunderhacker> it should be 1280x800
[21:12] <guga> coreymon77, any other advice?
[21:13] <coreymon77> guga: what, the user password didnt work?
[21:13] <guga> coreymon77, nobody knows here which is the password
[21:13] <coreymon77> guga: becuase unless you set it differently, your root pass is your user pass
[21:14] <ghostcube> http://nopaste.info/0c843f5d5e_nl.html
[21:14] <coreymon77> guga: the password you use to log in to your account
[21:14] <coreymon77> guga: try that one
[21:14] <guga> coreymon77,that's the problem, since you don't need to logout, it automatically loads the SO
[21:15] <coreymon77> guga: you dont know what your user password is?
[21:15] <guga> coreymon77, when they received the XO, they just had to put their usernames, no pass
[21:15] <SmokeEater85911> hey can somebody help me get my sub working?
[21:15] <The_ManU_212> hi
[21:15] <guga> coreymon77, I know it's weird, but thats how it was
[21:16] <coreymon77> okay, well i out
[21:16] <coreymon77> no clue
[21:16] <The_ManU_212> has kde a history of things made since the last login like the bash history?
[21:16] <guga> coreymon77, I'm guessing that maybe the government is using the same pass for all the computers
[21:16] <SmokeEater85911> Anybody?
[21:16] <coreymon77> wait what?
[21:16] <coreymon77> what are you talking about
[21:17] <guga> These XO are given to teachers and students in my country
[21:17] <ghostcube> ^^
[21:17] <coreymon77> so you dont know any passwords?
[21:17] <guga> Since my parents are teachers, they received a pair from the government
[21:17] <guga> coreymon77, nop
[21:17] <ghostcube> ure going to hack en closed embedded os of ure parents xo ?
[21:17] <coreymon77> youre screwed
[21:18] <coreymon77> ghostcube: please start speaking in english
[21:18] <SmokeEater85911> *chokes kubu*
[21:18] <guga> coreymon77, oh! thanks!
[21:18] <guga>  coreymon77, hehe
[21:18] <ghostcube> concernedcitizen: ??
[21:18] <ghostcube> coreymon77: ??
[21:18] <Thunderhacker> guga: forgive my ignorance of the XO, but is there a way to boot off an SD card or something?
[21:18] <coreymon77> SmokeEater85911: just say what youre problem is, if anyone can help they will
[21:19] <SmokeEater85911> I have no sound through my subwoofer, can anybody help?
[21:19] <SmokeEater85911> yes I have a subwoofer inside my laptop
[21:19] <coreymon77> ghostcube: stop it with the chat language and use real english, the way you are typing makes it kinda hard to understand sometimes
[21:19] <guga> coreymon77, sorry, what is a SD card?
[21:19] <ghostcube> ok :)
[21:19] <coreymon77> guga: the things you put in cameras, the memory cards
[21:20] <guga> coreymon77,Ah, ok.
[21:20] <coreymon77> guga: the little tiny things
[21:20] <guga> coreymon77, don't know. Is there a way of doing it by terminal?
[21:20] <coreymon77> guga: if you dont know how any of the passwords, youre quite limited in what you can do
[21:21] <guga> coreymon77, a command maybe or something. It has USB ports
[21:21] <guga> coreymon77, you're right
[21:21] <coreymon77> as i said before, as far as i know, youre screwed, but there are people who know more than me
[21:21] <guga> coreymon77, I guess I should try to contact anyone who's running the prject here in Uruguay
[21:22] <guga> coreymon77, thanks anyway!
[21:22] <SmokeEater85911> Can anybody help me? I have a built in subwoofer in my laptop and I cant get any sound out of it, but my speakers work.. any help please? thanks!
[21:22] <ghostcube> what about ure parents didnt they get the passes ?
[21:22] <coreymon77> SmokeEater85911: patience
[21:22] <SmokeEater85911> lol sorry
[21:22] <SmokeEater85911> didnt mean to send that, i was just typing it so i can copy/paste it for later lol
[21:22] <ghostcube> this could not be how would they be ablke to access it without the passes
[21:23] <ghostcube> o_O
[21:23] <Thunderhacker> guga: http://www.olpcnews.com/forum/index.php?topic=1504.msg11443;topicseen
[21:24] <coreymon77> SmokeEater85911: if someone is able to help, they will, just be patient
[21:25] <Thunderhacker> SmokeEater85911: what make/model laptop?
[21:26] <SmokeEater85911> Toshiba Satellite x205-S9800
[21:28] <ValentineX> h
[21:28] <ValentineX> how to setup gprs phone with kubuntu
[21:28] <SmokeEater85911> the only thing i could find was fixes if you have NO sound at all
[21:28] <ghostcube> SmokeEater85911: what programm do you use to play the files
[21:28] <SmokeEater85911> I have sound out of the 4 speakers on the top, but the sub nothing
[21:28] <SmokeEater85911> play what, the music?
[21:28] <ghostcube> yes
[21:29] <SmokeEater85911> anything, flash, or Amarok anything that plays music
[21:29] <SmokeEater85911> those are the only 2 ive tried so far though
[21:29] <ghostcube> in Amarok u can choose the speaker setup for 5.1 afaik
[21:29] <ghostcube> isnt this working ?
[21:29] <SmokeEater85911> i didnt know that lemme try
[21:30] <SmokeEater85911> hmm brb need to grab an MP3
[21:33] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: have you tried the xorg.conf i posted ?
[21:33] <Thunderhacker> I didn't see a link
[21:34] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: http://nopaste.info/0c843f5d5e_nl.html
[21:34] <Thunderhacker> one second
[21:35] <Guest70030> FG
[21:35] <Guest70030> HELLOOOOOOÇ
[21:35] <coreymon77> hi
[21:35] <Guest70030> WHERE ARE YOU FROM??¿
[21:36] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: same problem
[21:36] <mneptok> !caps > Guest70030
[21:36] <coreymon77> please stop using caps lock
[21:36] <SmokeEater85911> hey ghost, I tried the speaker configuration and it doesnt change anything
[21:36] <coreymon77> and where im from is irrelevant
[21:36] <ValentineX> Guest70030: ask you are question
[21:37] <ghostcube> hmm SmokeEater85911 openup kmix and see if any output is muted
[21:37] <Guest70030> I dont spake english very good!!
[21:37] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: i dont get why it detects two screens can u do this in terminal echo $DISPLAY
[21:37] <SmokeEater85911> nope all are on
[21:38] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: one sec
[21:38] <Thunderhacker> :0.0
[21:38] <ValentineX> Guest70030: try they will try to understand :)
[21:38] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: thats ok
[21:38] <Guest70030> ok
[21:39] <Guest70030> where are you from???
[21:39] <ghostcube> outer space ^^
[21:39] <Guest70030> tell me
[21:39] <mneptok> Guest70030: this is a support channel. for general chat, please /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:39] <ghostcube> Guest70030: are you a bot ?
[21:40] <The_ManU_212> has kde a history of things made since the last login like the bash history?
[21:40] <ValentineX> Guest70030: kubuntu linux chat only :D
[21:40] <Guest70030> i have linux!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:41] <ghostcube> SmokeEater85911: hmm dont know why this happens
[21:42] <ecasillas_> Smoke- Did you ever try the link I sent you?
[21:42] <SmokeEater85911> ghostcube: well crap lol I need this thing to work
[21:42] <SmokeEater85911> otherwise I have to go back to Sh*tty windows
[21:42] <ghostcube> sure its plugged in :D
[21:42] <SmokeEater85911> it doesnt unplug lol
[21:42] <SmokeEater85911> its built IN
[21:42] <ghostcube> oh
[21:42] <Guest70030> linux is good!!
[21:43] <Guest70030> so hard ,, but good
[21:43] <ghostcube> what does the testsound do ? plays all speakers or onlythe  2 chan ones
[21:43] <coreymon77> Guest70030: is there something we can help you with
[21:43] <SmokeEater85911> only the 2 chan
[21:44] <ghostcube> hmmm
[21:44] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: i dont get why its detecting two screens
[21:44] <Thunderhacker> I don't understand it wither
[21:44] <ghostcube> have u put tv or monitor to this lappi ?
[21:44] <Thunderhacker> nope
[21:45] <SmokeEater85911> what?
[21:45] <ghostcube> is this a clean installation ? and new ?
[21:45] <Thunderhacker> yes
[21:45] <ghostcube> can u just reinstall it with the alternate install cd ?
[21:45] <Thunderhacker> I'll try
[21:45] <Thunderhacker> give me a bit while I download and burn it
[21:46]  * Thunderhacker goes hunting for a fast mirror
[21:46] <ghostcube> no prob i will be here since 2 am so 4 hours
[21:46] <ghostcube> until
[21:46] <ghostcube> sorry
[21:47] <Thunderhacker> ok
[21:47] <coreymon77> Thunderhacker: the bitorrent method is fastest
[21:47] <Thunderhacker> thanks for all the help so far
[21:47] <SmokeEater85911> *dropkicks linux*
[21:48] <ghostcube> coreymon77: heh http univerity berlin is mostly the fastest here in germany full speed up to 16 mbit
[21:48] <coreymon77> SmokeEater85911: its not linux's fault, things just happen sometimes
[21:48] <adrian> ola
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> its linux's fault lol it works on windows it should work on linux ;)
[21:48] <coreymon77> ghostcube: ya, maybe if you are in germany
[21:48] <SmokeEater85911> linux is supposed to be better
[21:48] <coreymon77> SmokeEater85911: ya, sometimes things need a bit of setup though
[21:48] <coreymon77> SmokeEater85911: trust me, your problems are nothing
[21:48] <ghostcube> SmokeEater85911: and this maybe is a little  klick in the mixer
[21:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> 9 times out of 10, if something doesn't work in linux, it's the user's fault
[21:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> the other time is kde4
[21:49] <coreymon77> true say
[21:49] <coreymon77> lol!
[21:50] <ghostcube> 8 of 10 user 1 grafic drivers 1 kde 4
[21:50] <SmokeEater85911> is there a way to update just the mixer?
[21:50] <ghostcube> SmokeEater85911: what type of Sound card we talking about
[21:50] <coreymon77> ghostcube: no, every now and then we have a company that has something against linux and will not release open source drivers
[21:51] <ghostcube> yeah but mostly this is the grafic card industry or coreymon77 ??
[21:51] <SmokeEater85911> HDA Intel is what alsamixer says
[21:51] <ghostcube> lspci   to nopaste.info
[21:52] <SmokeEater85911> chip is Realtek ALC268
[21:52] <SmokeEater85911> its High Definition Audio 4.1 speaker setup
[21:53] <coreymon77> on my desktop box
[21:53] <coreymon77> i was struggling for months to try and get sound working on linux (sound stop working suddenly)
[21:53] <coreymon77> finally i find out that it turns out soundcard died
[21:55] <coreymon77> the soundcard on that machine is the pickiest thing in the world
[21:55] <coreymon77> if you plug in speakers, it will not work
[21:56] <coreymon77> the only way sound will work is if you plug headphones directly into the board
[21:56] <SmokeEater85911> so any more ideas?
[21:56] <ubuntu> i need some help. hopefully someone can answer me this.. my computer has been fine all this time, but just today when I turned the computer on, kubuntu wouldnt let me login to my account. It just refreshes the screen and goes back to the login menu. whats happening?
[21:57] <Jammu> hi room
[21:57] <Jammu> can some one help me?
[21:57] <coreymon77> Jammu: not unless you tell us what the problem is
[21:57] <Jammu> my wifi
[21:57] <coreymon77> sure, thats my specialty
[21:58] <coreymon77> whats the matter
[21:58] <Jammu> YES
[21:58] <ghostcube> SmokeEater85911: this card isnt really well supported there are a lot of howtos to get sound working
[21:58] <Jammu> no drivers and no network
[21:58] <ghostcube> so i think you are a bit better at the moment then most of the users in forums
[21:59] <coreymon77> Jammu: what card?
[21:59] <Jammu> atheros
[21:59] <coreymon77> Jammu: yay, heres what i need you to do
[22:00] <ubuntu> does anyone know what the problem might be with my pc? I dont think its my pc, but kubuntu itself. but I'm not sure
[22:00] <coreymon77> Jammu: open up konsole and type lspci
[22:00] <Jammu> but it works i just need the windows wireles drivers
[22:00] <coreymon77> no you dont
[22:00] <Jammu> ok
[22:00] <coreymon77> do what i said above
[22:00] <SmokeEater85911> boo
[22:00] <rickest> ubuntu: the symptoms you describe sounds like everything is working except X.  /var/log/Xorg.0.log  might tell you what's going wrong there
[22:01] <SmokeEater85911> looks like whenever I want to do my remixing Ill have to switch back over to vista until this problem gets solved
[22:01] <coreymon77> Jammu: then paste the output on www.pastebin.ca
[22:01] <ubuntu> rickest: well how do I access that? sorry, I'm kinda new to linux
[22:02] <rickest> ubuntu: this might be a stickler to solve alone, but  try: less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[22:02] <ghostcube> SmokeEater85911: hmm i run here jackd with ardour and some synths
[22:02] <rickest> ubuntu: and just scroll down through looking for anything out-of-place or "ERROR", etc.  :)
[22:02] <ghostcube> all fine so far but this is an old card :D
[22:03] <ubuntu> right now I'm on the kubuntu live CD. so I would have to go back to the installed version and type that on the console?
[22:03] <SmokeEater85911> i dont even know if the headphones work brb
[22:04] <coreymon77> sorry bout that
[22:04] <Jammu> done
[22:04] <coreymon77> Jammu: so, you getting that output up on pastebin?
[22:04] <coreymon77> okay, can you give me the address of the post?
[22:04] <rickest> ubuntu: unless you know how to mount your harddrive while booted on the LiveCD
[22:05] <SmokeEater85911> headphones work great
[22:05] <SmokeEater85911> Ill just have to use them until i can figure something else out
[22:05] <coreymon77> Jammu: copy the url from your browser and paste it in the channel
[22:05] <ubuntu> rickest: I dont know how to do that, but I'm going to try. If there's any errors, what should I do?
[22:05] <Jammu>  http://www.pastebin.ca/1180040
[22:06] <SmokeEater85911> does Kubu support biometrics yet?
[22:06] <coreymon77> good good
[22:06] <coreymon77> give me a sec
[22:06] <Jammu> ok
[22:06] <Jammu> brb
[22:06] <rickest> ubuntu: it will depend on the errors.  the mount is something like: mount /mnt/tmp /dev/sda1   # or wherever your normal partition is
[22:07] <coreymon77> Jammu: type iwconfig in konsole
[22:07] <coreymon77> pastebin the output
[22:08] <ghostcube> SmokeEater85911: sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[22:09] <Jammu> hmm   eth0      no wireless extensions.
[22:09] <ghostcube> SmokeEater85911: options snd-hda-intel model=auto   is this in there ?
[22:09] <ghostcube> if not put it at the end of the file
[22:09] <coreymon77> Jammu: does ath0 appear
[22:10] <coreymon77> or ath1 or something like that
[22:10] <Jammu> yes
[22:10] <coreymon77> yes
[22:10] <coreymon77> it does?
[22:10] <coreymon77> which one?
[22:11] <coreymon77> Jammu: which one appears?
[22:11] <Jammu> sorry my mistake just this
[22:11] <Jammu> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[22:11] <coreymon77> thats all
[22:11] <coreymon77> okay
[22:11] <coreymon77> can you tell me what the card actually is
[22:11] <Jammu> lo        no wireless extensions.
[22:11] <Jammu> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[22:11] <coreymon77> as in, the company, model
[22:11] <coreymon77> stuff like that
[22:12] <ubuntu> rickest: ok, I typed that on konsole. it gives me specifics for my keyboard and mouse. but other than that, it look fine, I believe
[22:12] <Jammu> ok minute
[22:13] <SmokeEater85911> whats that for?
[22:14] <rickest> ubuntu: if you're still on the LiveCD the path to the file I mentioned earlier would be /mnt/tmp/var/log/...  that make sense?
[22:15] <SmokeEater85911> ghostcube: whats that for?
[22:19] <Jammu> atheros i think
[22:19] <ubuntu> rickest: it tells me only root can do that
[22:19] <rickest> ubuntu: use sudo
[22:19] <SmokeEater85911> ghostcube: i wrote that to the end of the file, now what?
[22:19] <SmokeEater85911> do i need to reboot?
[22:20] <coreymon77> Jammu: i see you are on a 64 bit computer correct?
[22:20] <Jammu> yep
[22:20] <Jammu> fujitsu siemens
[22:20] <ubuntu> rickest: it gives me this: can't find /mnt/tmp/dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[22:20] <cody> Hello, I am currently using Adamm's kernel for the eeepc 901 and am having some wireless problems. Whenever I use the fn+f2 combo to bring wireless down, I can
[22:20] <cody> t
[22:20] <cody> get it to come back
[22:21] <coreymon77> Jammu: good
[22:21] <cody> I am using the scripts I found on the ubuntu wiki for the eeepc 901 but they don't seem to work.
[22:21] <coreymon77> Jammu: you havent been using ndiswrapper up until now, have you?
[22:22] <Jammu> what is that?
[22:22] <coreymon77> Jammu: okay, nevermind
[22:23] <Telroth> I need some help with SATA drives. I just built a new system (MSI P43 Neo3 mobo, core2quad, 4gb ram, 3x1Tb sata drives, dvdrw) and all of the drives are detected in the bios, but ubuntu doesn't show the device nodes for the sata drives.
[22:23] <rickest> ubuntu: sorry but I just don't have the time you'll need to solve all that.  I hope you can find someone to walk you through the proper steps
[22:23] <coreymon77> Jammu: brb phone
[22:24] <ubuntu> rickest: thanks for the help. I really appreciate it. :)
[22:25] <coreymon> Jammu: okay
[22:26] <coreymon> Jammu: open konsole and type sudo apt-get install build-essential
[22:28] <Jammu> driver install?
[22:28] <coreymon77> we are getting some drivers
[22:28] <Jammu> ok
[22:28] <coreymon77> not the windows ones
[22:28] <Jammu> k
[22:29] <coreymon77> so, did you do what i said above
[22:29] <Jammu> yes
[22:29] <coreymon77> is it done?
[22:30] <Jammu> i think
[22:30] <coreymon77> well, what does the last line in konsole say
[22:30] <coreymon77> ?
[22:31] <Jammu> Setting up build-essential (11.3ubuntu1)
[22:31] <coreymon77> nope, not done yet
[22:31] <Telroth> any help for me?
[22:32] <coreymon77> you know when you first open Konsole it gives you a line similar to "computername@blah"
[22:32] <coreymon77> or somethign like that
[22:32] <coreymon77> the first line when you first open konsole
[22:32] <Jammu> that is there
[22:32] <tsunami> just installed and hangs on "stopping K Display Manager".  Any ideas??
[22:32] <coreymon77> what does the last line say now?
[22:32] <cody> Telroth: What version of ubuntu are you installing?
[22:33] <Telroth> kubuntu 8.04
[22:33] <Jammu> my name@blah-laptop
[22:33] <coreymon77> Jammu: okay, that line means that it is done
[22:33] <cody> Telroth: Did you try to install ubuntu in text mode?
[22:33] <coreymon77> Jammu: so you know for future refference
[22:34] <Jammu> ubuntu whit WUBI
[22:34] <Telroth> i have not, but wouldn't the /dev/ folder be the same in both? I can reboot and do text mode if you think it'll make a difference
[22:34] <Jammu> ok
[22:34] <Jammu> im just REALLY tired
[22:34] <coreymon77> jext
[22:34] <coreymon77> next*
[22:34] <coreymon77> copy and paste this stuff
[22:34] <coreymon> Jammu: type in konsole sudo apt-get install linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)
[22:35] <cody> Telroth: It's worth a shot
[22:35] <Jammu> done
[22:35] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: you still here?
[22:36] <Jammu> it did nothing
[22:36] <ghostcube> yes
[22:36] <Thunderhacker> installed from the alternate install CD, same exact problems
[22:37] <coreymon77> Jammu: done?
[22:37] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: puh
[22:37] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: u formated the drives before installing ?
[22:37] <Thunderhacker> yes
[22:37] <ghostcube> damn
[22:37] <coreymon77> okay
[22:37] <Thunderhacker> ok, there's one thing different this time
[22:37] <Jammu> done
[22:38] <Thunderhacker> something crashed in KDE shortly after startup
[22:38] <coreymon> good
[22:38] <Thunderhacker> kdesktop crashed
[22:38] <coreymon> next
[22:38] <coreymon> Jammu: sudo apt-get install subversion
[22:38] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: can u open all repositories in etc/apt/sources.list
[22:39] <ghostcube> and do an sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:39] <Jammu> done
[22:39] <coreymon77> okay
[22:39] <coreymon> next
[22:39] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: one second
[22:40] <coreymon> Jammu: run kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:40] <ghostcube> there is an kdesudo ?
[22:40] <coreymon> Jammu: and remove any references to ath_pci and ath_hal in that file
[22:40] <coreymon77> ghostcube: yup
[22:40] <ghostcube> cool havent known this :)
[22:40] <coreymon77> ghostcube: kdesudo is used for running graphical apps from konsole with root privs
[22:41] <ghostcube> hmm i always used gksu for this havent known there is an kde related one for qt :)
[22:41] <ghostcube> thx
[22:41] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: installing updates...
[22:41] <Jammu> am run what?
[22:41] <coreymon77> did you do what i said above?
[22:42] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: if finished sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:42] <Jammu> where do i run that?
[22:42] <Thunderhacker> will do when it's done
[22:42] <ghostcube> then sudo apt-get clean && sudo updatedb && sudo ldconfig
[22:42] <Thunderhacker> ok
[22:42] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: is there an kernel update shipped
[22:43] <coreymon> Jammu: type kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:43] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: looks like it
[22:43] <coreymon> Jammu: and remove any references to ath_pci and ath_hal in that file
[22:43] <ghostcube> u must allow the config file from the maintainer if the dialog asks you for this  it will do if it is about to detecting the entries in /grub/menu.lst
[22:43] <Thunderhacker> ok
[22:44] <Thunderhacker> I'll let you know when everything's done
[22:44] <ghostcube> ok
[22:44] <Jammu> command not found
[22:45] <coreymon77> ghostcube: huh?
[22:45] <ghostcube> ?
[22:45] <coreymon77> whhoops
[22:45] <coreymon77> Jammu: okay
[22:45] <ghostcube> :D
[22:46] <ghostcube> xchat eh ?
[22:46] <coreymon> Jammu: when does it say that
[22:46] <coreymon77> no, konv
[22:46] <ghostcube> oh
[22:46] <coreymon77> and colloquy
[22:46] <ghostcube> :)
[22:46] <cody> Telroth: Did you enable the AHCI controller in the bios?
[22:46] <coreymon> Jammu: when does it say command not found?
[22:47] <Jammu> kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:47] <Jammu> there
[22:47] <ghostcube> coreymon77: u are firm with building deb files ?
[22:47] <cody> ...for the SATA drives
[22:47] <coreymon77> nope
[22:47] <ghostcube> damn
[22:47] <coreymon> Jammu: okay then
[22:47] <coreymon> Jammu: try kdesu kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:48] <ghostcube> anyone knows how i can change the suffix from this kicker-taskbar-compiz_0.2ghostbuntu-1_i386.deb
[22:48] <hery> hi all
[22:48] <cody> Hi
[22:48] <ghostcube> to kicker-taskbar-compiz_0.2-0ghostbuntu0_i386.deb
[22:48] <ghostcube> by create process ?
[22:48] <Telroth> cody, no it'll try that
[22:48] <Telroth> *i'll
[22:49] <Jammu> sudo: kate: command not found
[22:49] <coreymon> okay then
[22:49] <ghostcube> try nano
[22:49] <coreymon> no
[22:49] <coreymon> i want him to use graphical
[22:49] <ghostcube> ah ok
[22:49] <ghostcube> kwrite ?
[22:49] <coreymon> im jsut gonna get him to apt kate
[22:49] <coreymon> Jammu: sudo apt-get install kate
[22:50] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: done, but it didn't give me any dialog boxes about replacing a config file
[22:50] <ghostcube> ok
[22:50] <ghostcube> hmm
[22:50] <Jammu> done
[22:50] <coreymon> now
[22:50] <arty_> hi all
[22:50] <ghostcube> i have edited it myself maybe because its why its asking me
[22:50] <arty_> anyone use YAKUAKE ?
[22:50] <coreymon> Jammu: type kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:50] <arty_> pls
[22:51] <ghostcube> arty_: i tried it why?
[22:51] <ScorpKing> hi guys. i'm reading a lot of pdf's in konqueror but can't remember how to make it autoscroll. what is the shortcut for that again?
[22:51] <Jammu> ok and
[22:51] <arty_> ghostcube: how I save every season whitch I have open after restart is all gon :(
[22:51] <coreymon> Jammu: and remove any references to ath_pci and ath_hal in that file
[22:51] <ghostcube> uffz
[22:52] <The_ManU_212> has kde a history of things made since the last login like the bash history?
[22:52] <Jammu> private?
[22:52] <ghostcube> arty_:  u build it youreself ?
[22:52] <coreymon> nah, its better to do here
[22:52] <coreymon> Jammu: did you remove the refferences?
[22:52] <ghostcube> or installed by apt arty_
[22:52] <arty_> yep example firt is on ssh connect second is second .....
[22:52] <Jammu> ok there is session chooser
[22:53] <coreymon> gah
[22:53] <ghostcube> what
[22:53] <coreymon> what happened when you types that command Jammu
[22:53] <coreymon77> the kdesudo one
[22:53] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: hmm restart
[22:54] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: ok
[22:54] <arty_> I open yakuake and in firt shell I have some staff in the second have ssh connect AND I need save
[22:54] <coreymon> Jammu: hello?
[22:54] <Jammu> there is session chooser
[22:55] <coreymon> what does it say?
[22:55] <Jammu> default session
[22:55] <coreymon77> Jammu: did a window pop up asking you to put in your password?
[22:56] <Jammu> no
[22:56] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: same problems
[22:56] <coreymon77> close the session thing
[22:56] <Jammu> ok
[22:56] <coreymon> Jammu: now, type this exactly
[22:56] <discombobulated> anyone have realtek hd audio?
[22:56] <coreymon> Jammu: kdesudo kate /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[22:57] <coreymon> Jammu: a window should pop up asking for your password, type it, and a text editor should pop up
[22:57] <Jammu> nope
[22:57] <Jammu> the same session chooser
[22:58] <coreymon77> gah, can you take a screenshot and put it up on imageshack or something like that
[22:58] <arty_> YAKUAKE someone use???
[22:59] <Jammu> um im on ubuntu...
[22:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> arty_: try making sense, you'll get better help
[22:59] <coreymon77> Jammu: why didnt you tell me that!
[22:59] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: hmmmm
[22:59] <coreymon> that explains things
[22:59] <Daisuke_Laptop> arty_: also, it appears that english is not your native language
[23:00] <Daisuke_Laptop> !sk
[23:00] <arty_> Daisuke_Laptop: how to save every season whitch I have open in YAKUAKE
[23:00] <coreymon> Jammu: ijay then
[23:00] <coreymon> okay*
[23:00] <coreymon> type this then
[23:00] <coreymon> gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist
[23:01] <coreymon> and close that session chooser
[23:01] <arty_> Daisuke_Laptop: understand?
[23:02] <Jammu> ok and then?
[23:02] <Daisuke_Laptop> no, i was just saying to clarify.  i don't use yakuake
[23:02] <shayla> i downloaded and installed intreped dev from cd but the kdenetworkingmanager dosent load when i login
[23:02] <shayla> im running amd64
[23:02] <coreymon> Jammu: did a text editor pop up this time
[23:02] <Jammu> yes
[23:02] <coreymon77> good
[23:03] <coreymon77> remove all references to ath_pci and ath_hal in that fiel
[23:03] <coreymon77> file*
[23:03] <arty_> Daisuke_Laptop: ok sry m8
[23:03] <Telroth> cody, no good with achi enabled
[23:03] <Jammu> there is none
[23:04] <Jammu> no pci no hal
[23:04] <cody> hmmm
[23:04] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: i found something
[23:04] <coreymon77> Jammu: ath_pci or ath_hal doesnt appear in that file?
[23:04] <shayla> also i cant run adept manager
[23:04] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: sweet, what'd you find?
[23:05] <coreymon77> Jammu: good
[23:05] <ghostcube> heh
[23:05]  * Thunderhacker is about to start pulling what's left of his hair out
[23:05] <coreymon> Jammu: go to System ->Administration ->Hardware Drivers and make sure both Atheros drivers are disabled
[23:05] <Jammu> same here
[23:06] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: is this laptop with 15,4 "
[23:06] <martianlobster> what do I need to install so that I can compile basic C librarie?  stdio.h isn't on my system now
[23:06] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: yes
[23:06] <Jammu> done
[23:06] <coreymon> they are disabled?
[23:06] <Jammu> yes
[23:06] <Thunderhacker> Gateway ML6732
[23:06] <ghostcube> can u post ure xorg.conf again
[23:06] <Jammu> reBOOT?
[23:06] <coreymon> Jammu: were they disabled or did you have to disable them?
[23:06] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: one second
[23:07] <Jammu> i just disablet them
[23:07] <coreymon77> okay then
[23:07] <coreymon77> reboot
[23:07] <Jammu> ok
[23:07] <coreymon77> and come right back here
[23:08] <Thunderhacker> http://nopaste.info/a49249a49e.html
[23:09] <ghostcube> discombobulated: http://www.quietis.org/rcruz/sonyDebianHowTo/debian-vaio-fs215s.htm#Section_III  look at the sound section may it helps
[23:09] <discombobulated> ghostcube, thanks
[23:10] <coreymon77> Jammu: okay youre back
[23:10] <coreymon77> next
[23:10] <martianlobster> in answer to my own question,  apt-get install build-essential
[23:11] <coreymon> Jammu: open a terminal window again
[23:11] <Jammu> why 2 coreymons=
[23:11] <Jammu> ?
[23:11] <coreymon77> long story
[23:11] <coreymon77> dont feel like explaining right now
[23:11] <coreymon77> they are both me
[23:11] <coreymon77> jsut on different clients
[23:11] <Jammu> k
[23:11] <coreymon> open a terminal window again
[23:11] <Jammu> and?
[23:11] <martianlobster> is there a command, for finding which package contains a certain file?   for example suppose I wanted to find what package contained stdio.h,  but stdio.h wasn't on my system yet?   (this is the problem I just posted a few minutes ago restated)
[23:12] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: http://nopaste.info/de6b5462ee_nl.html
[23:12] <coreymon> Jammu: svn co https://svn.madwifi.org/madwifi/branches/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6
[23:12] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: one second
[23:13] <Jammu> bad link
[23:14] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: same problem
[23:15] <ghostcube> u restarted x ?
[23:15] <Thunderhacker> yes
[23:15] <coreymon77> bad link?
[23:15] <Jammu> but i got the mad wifi
[23:15] <Jammu> the link no work
[23:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> Jammu: you clicked it?
[23:15] <coreymon77> copy and paste
[23:15] <coreymon77> cause it should work
[23:15] <Daisuke_Laptop> it's a command line (including the svn co part)
[23:15] <Jammu> i got the mad wifi
[23:16] <coreymon77> Jammu: all of this things are terminal comands
[23:16] <coreymon77> Jammu: did you copy and paste the command exactl
[23:16] <coreymon77> y
[23:16] <Thunderhacker> ghostcube: is it possible this is due to a driver bug or possibly defective hardware?
[23:17] <Jammu> copy paste bad link
[23:17] <ghostcube> hmmm i dont get it why the kde is finding 2 desktops
[23:17] <ghostcube> and it seems not to recognize the xorg settings
[23:17] <Jammu> but i got the madwifi from http://madwifi.org/
[23:18] <Thunderhacker> for what it's worth I tried plain ubuntu and gnome acted the same way KDE is acting now
[23:18] <flaccid> martianlobster: apt-file search filename
[23:18] <coreymon> Jammu: so did you end up getting madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6 somehow or another?
[23:18] <Thunderhacker> I grabbed kubuntu because I'm more familiar with KDE than gnome
[23:18] <Thunderhacker> thinking it was something I was doing wrong
[23:18] <discombobulated> anyone have an idea when the next version of kubuntu is coming out?
[23:18] <Jammu> whare?
[23:18] <Jammu> whare?
[23:19] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: this seems not to be kubuntu related
[23:19] <ghostcube> maybe a driver issue or a hw prob as u said
[23:19] <ghostcube> but i cant tell u really what it is
[23:19] <martianlobster> flaccid: thanks! :)
[23:19] <ghostcube> but its not the newest card model
[23:19] <flaccid> !intrepid | discombobulated
[23:19] <coreymon> Jammu: what did you get from madwifi.org?
[23:20] <ghostcube> si this shouldnt be an driver issue
[23:20] <discombobulated> geez, too long to wait. i will probably wind up installing it by then
[23:20] <Jammu> v 0.9.4
[23:20] <ghostcube> discombobulated: there is an alpha afaik
[23:20] <Thunderhacker> well, I'm hesitant to say it's defective hardware, because "it works in Windoze"
[23:21] <ghostcube> if u cant wait
[23:21] <ghostcube> if it works in windoz it should work here too
[23:21] <coreymon77> bah
[23:21] <discombobulated> is anyone trying the alpha? is it stable enough for you?
[23:21] <coreymon77> so when you type that command it says bad link
[23:21] <Thunderhacker> is there some way to force KDE to disregard the "second" screen?
[23:21] <ghostcube> i dont know where it gets it from
[23:22] <flaccid> ghostcube: bad generalisation
[23:22] <ghostcube> flaccid: no
[23:22] <ghostcube> i dont know where kde settings detects the 2 screens
[23:22] <Jammu> http://nopaste.info/de6b5462ee_nl.html
[23:23] <Jammu> sorry
[23:23] <flaccid> ghostcube: no what?
[23:23] <ghostcube> no generalisation
[23:23] <coreymon77> huh?
[23:23] <Jammu> https://svn.madwifi.org/madwifi/branches/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6
[23:23] <flaccid> [08:21] <ghostcube> if it works in windoz it should work here too <-- yeah right
[23:23] <ghostcube> if the resolution works on intel driver windows it should work here
[23:23] <discombobulated> does the alpha have kde 4.1 in it? it's why i haven't installed it yet because it's a huge download. might as well download the whole install CD that has it
[23:23] <ghostcube> i know what u mean
[23:23] <ghostcube> but i only meant the resolution isssue
[23:24] <flaccid> intel has many resolution problems on linux. its an apple not a banana
[23:25] <ghostcube> sure espacially with 1280x800 but this doesnt explain why kde is detecting 2 screens but only one is in xorg conf
[23:25] <flaccid> only 1 needs to be in xorg.conf due to randr support
[23:26] <ghostcube> but thsi is fresh install no config for randr
[23:26] <Jammu> ok what now?
[23:26] <flaccid> randr requires no config. this is how it is designed
[23:26] <ghostcube> but u must activate it it doesnt detect it automaticly if no second screen attached
[23:27] <flaccid> !u | ghostcube
[23:27] <ghostcube> im grman so
[23:27] <Search4Lancer> oh noes! Juk crashed on a signal 11 and now when I start it back up I have no sound! sad face :-(
[23:27] <Jammu> corey u there?
[23:27] <flaccid> ghostcube: i dont know what you mean. go check out xrandr
[23:28] <Thunderhacker> is there any way to disable randr?
[23:28] <flaccid> who has the problem with display and what is it?
[23:28] <ghostcube> yes there is Thunderhacker
[23:29] <ghostcube> flaccid: Thunderhacker has the prob and it is that kde detects 2 screens and not only the one he is running :|
[23:29] <ghostcube> and i tried to edit xorg to fit it but no luck
[23:30] <ghostcube> he made a feesh alternate install with same probs newest upadtes opened all repos
[23:30] <ghostcube> :|
[23:30] <flaccid> i still dont quite understand. you saying second screen is plugged in but you don't want to use it?
[23:30] <Thunderhacker> there is no second screen
[23:30] <ghostcube> nah there is no second one but kde is detecting 2
[23:30] <ghostcube> thats the problem
[23:30] <flaccid> what in kde is detecting 2 and why is it a problem?
[23:30] <ghostcube> Thunderhacker: show him screenshot
[23:30] <Thunderhacker> flaccid: lemme find my screen shot
[23:31] <Thunderhacker> http://webpages.charter.net/ashlandpc/snapshot2.png
[23:31] <Thunderhacker> http://webpages.charter.net/ashlandpc/snapshot1.png
[23:32] <flaccid> ah yea classic intel bug
[23:32] <Search4Lancer> hmm, and now Juk just completely refuses to run past the splash screen
[23:32] <flaccid> similar to what my housemate has
[23:33] <coreymon77> Jammu: sorry, had to take care of the dog
[23:33] <ghostcube> but what causes this ?? driver ?
[23:33] <flaccid> Thunderhacker: xrandr --auto
[23:33] <Jammu> ok
[23:33]  * Thunderhacker tries
[23:33] <flaccid> ghostcube: intel driver
[23:33] <Thunderhacker> nothing happened
[23:33] <Thunderhacker> or do I need to restart?
[23:33] <flaccid> no
[23:33] <Thunderhacker> *restart x
[23:33] <coreymon77> Jammu: so wait
[23:34] <flaccid> Thunderhacker: try xrandr --mode 1280x800
[23:34] <Jammu> whare?
[23:34] <flaccid> i'll go look for the script i made for my housemate
[23:34] <coreymon77> Jammu: is https://svn.madwifi.org/madwifi/branches/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6 all you typed in terminal when it told you bad links
[23:34] <coreymon77> link?
[23:34] <Thunderhacker> I get a usage screen
[23:34] <ghostcube> flaccid: i changed modelines in xorg.conf if this is important
[23:34] <flaccid> modelines didn't help with my problem
[23:35] <coreymon77> Jammu: well?
[23:35] <Jammu> so i copy all that in terminal?
[23:35] <ghostcube> i dont use xrandr i have nviudia here so no idea how to use it
[23:35] <coreymon77> no
[23:35] <maectpo> Привет.
[23:36] <maectpo> У меня проблемко
[23:36] <flaccid> nvidia supports randr just not multi
[23:36] <coreymon> Jammu: svn co https://svn.madwifi.org/madwifi/branches/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6
[23:36] <coreymon> Jammu: copy all of that
[23:36] <ghostcube> i use twinview formy 2 screen
[23:36] <coreymon> including the svn co part
[23:36] <coreymon> Jammu: and paste it into terminal
[23:36] <maectpo> I have a problem with change keyboard layout
[23:36] <flaccid> Thunderhacker: xrandr --output LVDS --mode 1280x800
[23:36] <maectpo> Please help me
[23:36] <ghostcube> flaccid: does what ?
[23:37] <flaccid> ghostcube: huh
[23:37] <Thunderhacker> flaccid: nothing happened
[23:37] <flaccid> Thunderhacker: try a lower mode then try that mode again (its already on that res)
[23:37] <ghostcube> whats that supposed to do  only to understand the syntax
[23:37] <Thunderhacker> ok
[23:37] <Jammu> its true im a NOOB
[23:37] <Jammu> its done
[23:38] <Thunderhacker> switched to 800x600, then did 1280x800, went back to the way it was
[23:38] <flaccid> ghostcube: it changes the resolution
[23:38] <flaccid> Thunderhacker: same issue in 800x600 ?
[23:38] <ghostcube>  --output LVDS
[23:38] <ghostcube> this one flaccid
[23:38] <coreymon> Jammu: so it worked that time?
[23:38] <Thunderhacker> flaccid: in 800x600 the KDE panel was off the bottom of the screen
[23:38] <dagoblin> Hi guys, i cant log on to an specific irc server i used to conect, any help? am a new user
[23:38] <dagoblin> thanks
[23:38] <dagoblin> :D
[23:39] <Thunderhacker> it almost seems like KDE is running in a xinerama "window"
[23:39] <flaccid> Thunderhacker: change it back to normal res and then disable the tv with: xrandr --output TV --off
[23:39] <maectpo> You don't help me:(
[23:39] <Jammu> yes
[23:39] <Thunderhacker> nothing happened
[23:39] <coreymon> okay, phew
[23:39] <flaccid> here is one of the bug reports about this problem https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/136783
[23:40] <coreymon> next
[23:40] <coreymon> Jammu: cd ~/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6
[23:40] <Jammu> and?
[23:41] <coreymon> Jammu: make
[23:41] <Thunderhacker> looks like exactly my problem except the "fix" for that bug doesn't work for me
[23:41] <Jammu> then?
[23:42] <flaccid> Thunderhacker: you can try the xorg.conf fix
[23:42] <coreymon> Jammu: sudo make install
[23:42] <ghostcube> hmm Thunderhacker maybe try this  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/136783/comments/3
[23:42] <tacosarecool> hello
[23:42] <Thunderhacker> flaccid: will try that, hold on
[23:42] <ghostcube> is ubottu parsing the bug numbers ?
[23:42] <tacosarecool> Hello
[23:43] <flaccid> ghostcube: yes
[23:43] <ghostcube> nice :)
[23:43] <Jammu> then?
[23:43] <tacosarecool> help I have a glitch if I have the start up sound when I boot I can use flash however if not my wine and my amarok sound still works but not my flash
[23:43] <coreymon> Jammu: sudo depmod -ae
[23:44] <Jammu> ok
[23:45] <Thunderhacker> omg
[23:45] <Thunderhacker> it works!
[23:45] <coreymon> Jammu: sudo modprobe ath_pci
[23:45] <Jammu> nothing happend
[23:45] <tacosarecool> I have a glitch if I have the start up sound when I boot I can use flash however if not my wine and my amarok sound still works but not my flash
[23:45] <flaccid> of course it does
[23:45] <coreymon77> Jammu: its fine
[23:45]  * Thunderhacker bows in worship of flaccid and ghostcube
[23:45] <coreymon77> Jammu: in this case, no output is a good thing
[23:45] <flaccid> see how crap intel really is..
[23:45] <ghostcube> flaccid: nice work man
[23:45] <ghostcube> :)
[23:45] <Thunderhacker> thanks for all your help
[23:45] <coreymon> Jammu: did you do sudo modprobe ath_pci
[23:45] <coreymon> ?
[23:46] <Jammu> yes
[23:46] <coreymon> next is
[23:46] <coreymon> Jammu: echo ath_hal | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[23:46] <flaccid> ghostcube: thanks
[23:47] <tacosarecool> help I have a glitch if I have the start up sound when I boot I can use flash however if not my wine and my amarok sound still works but not my flash
[23:47] <Jammu> then?
[23:47] <coreymon> echo ath_pci | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[23:47] <Jammu> nothing happend
[23:47] <coreymon> good
[23:47] <ubuntu_> hay all two questions, will the next version (intrepid) use kde 3 or just kde 4?
[23:48] <coreymon> Jammu: no output is good
[23:48] <tacosarecool> I'm just going reboot and hope my flash sound works now
[23:48] <coreymon> Jammu: now
[23:48] <coreymon> Jammu: go to System ->Administration ->Hardware Drivers and reenable the Atheros drivers and reboot the system
[23:48] <Jammu> ok
[23:48] <flaccid> !intrepid | ubuntu_
[23:49] <ubuntu> is there someone from Poland?
[23:49] <flaccid> !pl | ubuntu
[23:49] <ubuntu_> flaccid: that answers the other question of when it will be released.. heheh I am going to be reinstalling as was thinking about that.. but i might just stick with hardy a bit longer
[23:49] <ghostcube> kde4 is default ?
[23:49] <ghostcube> :|
[23:49] <ghostcube> i must stay on hardy long time :D
[23:50] <flaccid> you can always install kde3 anyway
[23:50] <ghostcube> just a joke
[23:50] <ghostcube> :|
[23:55] <ghostcube> the best in kde4 is dolphin can sort by type :)
[23:56] <flaccid> you can talk about that in ot or #kubuntu-kde4 :)
[23:57] <ghostcube> its the only thing i have abpout it so ...
[23:58] <Daisuke_Laptop> ghostcube: and konqueror can't?
[23:58] <ghostcube> dont know :| i only rcognized that dolphin can but i dont want to start a big duiscussion here