| ethana21 | How are updates treating us today? | 00:43 |
|---|---|---|
| ethana21 | any major breakage? | 00:43 |
| Taku | hey there | 00:48 |
| ethana21 | Taku: hi | 00:49 |
| Taku | :) | 00:49 |
| Taku | people, is anyone experiencing problems with apache here ? | 00:49 |
| bcurtis | if the "low graphics mode" start to intrepid normal? | 00:56 |
| bcurtis | is* | 00:57 |
| bcurtis | anyone? | 01:13 |
| ethana21 | 'normal'? | 01:13 |
| ethana21 | should the release behave that way? | 01:13 |
| ethana21 | if not, make sure a bug has been filed | 01:13 |
| bcurtis | good point... bad wording | 01:13 |
| bcurtis | is that whats happening right now ? | 01:13 |
| * ethana21 doesn't knwo | 01:14 | |
| ethana21 | know*** | 01:14 |
| bcurtis | you're using intrepid.. right? | 01:14 |
| ethana21 | I'm asking if today is a good day to dist-upgrade | 01:15 |
| ethana21 | i've alpha tested before | 01:15 |
| ethana21 | i know not to run updates without asking about them first | 01:15 |
| bcurtis | um, i wouldn't | 01:15 |
| bcurtis | its usable, and i guess it would be bad for me not to say all help is beneficial | 01:16 |
| bcurtis | so if you don't mind a few noticable errors, you can | 01:16 |
| ethana21 | as I said, I have alpha tested before... | 01:21 |
| * ethana21 checks alpha 4 release notes | 01:21 | |
| === LSD|Ninj1 is now known as LSD|Ninja | ||
| DanaG | What the heck? "Automatic login (dana)Password:" | 02:41 |
| DanaG | Oh, now they've separated autologin from passwordless login. | 02:41 |
| peanutb | Is anyone else getting messages like application X crashed would you like to report it, and finding that the application is still working and responsive | 02:46 |
| HomesKillit | anyword on Empathy being added to Ubuntu+1? | 02:57 |
| HomesKillit | oops, I guess I should go there | 02:57 |
| Lunks | Any flash website makes my cpu go up to 100% | 04:26 |
| Hobbsee | remove libflashsupport. | 04:26 |
| peanutb | Lunks: try using the flash 11 beta | 04:29 |
| Lunks | Hobbsee: it's not installed | 04:30 |
| Lunks | isn't flash player 10 already beta? O.o | 04:30 |
| peanutb | Lunks: i mean 10 RC | 04:31 |
| Lunks | hmm it's beta on intrepid, right? | 04:31 |
| peanutb | http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/flashplayer10/ | 04:31 |
| peanutb | Lunks: i donno, i did an upgrade install | 04:32 |
| Hobbsee | hm | 04:33 |
| Lunks | me too, peanutb | 04:33 |
| peanutb | and upgrading seemed to fix sound issues | 04:33 |
| peanutb | i havent experienced the 100% cpu thing | 04:33 |
| peanutb | hows about 121% | 04:36 |
| peanutb | http://load.imageshack.us/ | 04:37 |
| peanutb | err | 04:37 |
| peanutb | http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/1063/screenshotkb7.png | 04:37 |
| AnAnt | Hello, how can I make network-manager not modify the nameserver & search entries in /etc/resolv.conf ? | 05:00 |
| telexicon | is flash video very slow for anyone else? | 05:08 |
| ethana21 | what flash implementation? | 05:33 |
| DanaG | Wow, is it just me, or did font rendering change significantly, recently? | 05:37 |
| ethana21 | for better or for worse? | 05:38 |
| DanaG | Worse, in my opinion. | 05:38 |
| ethana21 | :( | 05:39 |
| ethana21 | Does this have to do with antialiasing or sub-pixel hinting? | 05:39 |
| DanaG | Yeah. | 05:39 |
| ethana21 | ..so like, both? | 05:40 |
| ethana21 | sorry, ambiguous or | 05:40 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, I remember one thing: due to restoring from some backup, I lost my "use legacy LCD filter" conf file. | 05:40 |
| DanaG | I've tried antialiasing with both "full" and "slight" (can't say I know exactly what "hinting" is, though I do know how "Cleartype" works). | 05:40 |
| DanaG | Hmm, even with the Legacy filter, it still doesn't look quite right. | 05:42 |
| Lunks | I like slight much better | 05:42 |
| Lunks | what's legacy lcd filter? | 05:42 |
| DanaG | It antialiases only corners, not along verticals. | 05:43 |
| Lunks | Hmm how to do it? | 05:44 |
| Lunks | It sounds good. :P | 05:44 |
| DanaG | http://johan.kiviniemi.name/blag/2008/01/12/ubuntu-hardy-fonts/ | 05:44 |
| DanaG | But it still doesn't look as it did a few days ago, for some reason. | 05:45 |
| DanaG | And I wasn't using Legacy before. | 05:45 |
| Lunks | I believe fonts on Ubuntu will never look cooler than on a Mac. | 05:46 |
| ethana21 | how do they look on osx? | 05:47 |
| DanaG | Eeh, I used to love the Ubuntu font rendering... up until I switched to Intrepid. | 05:47 |
| Lunks | I don't know how to explain, ethana21... just smooth where it has to be, and crispy where it belongs. | 05:47 |
| Lunks | DanaG: there's 'hintfull' on xml file, could I change to hintslight? | 05:48 |
| DanaG | Yeah. | 05:48 |
| ethana21 | It's all a waste of time-- I talked to a monitor salesman the other day, and he told me what's up | 05:49 |
| telexicon | ok, so which one is the culprit? | 05:49 |
| ethana21 | if you're worried about aliasing, your screen is too small | 05:49 |
| telexicon | xorg 1.5 or the new radeon driver in ibex? | 05:50 |
| ethana21 | buy one of our 1920x1200 ones! | 05:50 |
| telexicon | flash is totally broken | 05:50 |
| ethana21 | sounds like solid advice.. | 05:50 |
| telexicon | flash video plays at about 1fps | 05:50 |
| Lunks | telexicon: I'm having 100% cpu on flash video | 05:50 |
| telexicon | Lunks, yea | 05:50 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, 98 and 99 DPI settings look rather different. | 05:50 |
| Lunks | and flickering | 05:50 |
| Lunks | DanaG: I use 98dpi | 05:50 |
| telexicon | the firefox process jumps to 100% whenever flash comes up | 05:50 |
| telexicon | but, im pretty sure its not flash's fault because it didnt do this before | 05:50 |
| Lunks | telexicon: I disabled flash. It's faster than ever. :D | 05:51 |
| telexicon | that doesnt help me when i want to watch videos online | 05:51 |
| Lunks | Of course it's flash fault. :P | 05:51 |
| telexicon | no its not | 05:51 |
| telexicon | blame flash when its flash's fault | 05:51 |
| DanaG | My screen is 99.89 DPI. | 05:51 |
| Lunks | Did you upgrade to Intrepid recently? | 05:51 |
| telexicon | but dont blame everything on flash | 05:51 |
| telexicon | that ruins your credibility | 05:51 |
| telexicon | yes today | 05:51 |
| ethana21 | I blame all my problems on nVidia | 05:51 |
| cycom | ethana21: I dunno, I worry about aliasing and I have a 1680x1050 screen on my laptop :) | 05:51 |
| DanaG | wtf... dpkg-reconfigure -plow fontconfig no longer gives ANY configurability! | 05:52 |
| Lunks | telexicon: guess what: intrepid introduces flash player 10 beta, which seems buggy | 05:52 |
| telexicon | every since ive upgraded to intrepid, flash video has been broken | 05:52 |
| DanaG | That's rather not nice. | 05:52 |
| telexicon | Lunks, it doesnt matter | 05:52 |
| DanaG | Now how am I supposed to reconfigure it? | 05:52 |
| telexicon | Lunks, ive used the new flash 10, the newest flash 10 (on flash's beta site) | 05:52 |
| telexicon | and also tried the older flash 9 | 05:52 |
| ethana21 | cycom: ...wow | 05:52 |
| telexicon | they all do the same thing | 05:52 |
| telexicon | its not flash | 05:52 |
| ethana21 | heh | 05:52 |
| telexicon | its not flash, its not firefox 3 | 05:52 |
| Lunks | telexicon: ok, it's all macromedia's fault. | 05:53 |
| telexicon | flash video was usable in hardy | 05:53 |
| telexicon | no | 05:53 |
| ethana21 | I for one welcome our new silverlight overlords.. | 05:53 |
| cycom | ethana21: Dell E1505 :) They even have discrete video cards in this bad boy | 05:53 |
| Lunks | for their monopoly on media content. | 05:53 |
| telexicon | those variables didnt change | 05:53 |
| telexicon | will you knock it off | 05:53 |
| telexicon | flash didnt change and firefox didnt change | 05:53 |
| cycom | telexicon: I'm using my Nvidia card to watch video right now. let me try my ATI one on my other laptop | 05:53 |
| telexicon | the things that changed were xorg and radeon drivers | 05:53 |
| Lunks | I'm on NVidia and I'm experience the same thing. | 05:53 |
| telexicon | ok | 05:54 |
| cycom | huh...that's odd. | 05:54 |
| telexicon | so maybe its something with Xorg | 05:54 |
| cycom | flash video works fine for me... | 05:54 |
| Lunks | cycom: did you check cpu usage? | 05:54 |
| Lunks | I, for instance, go to www.americanas.com (brazilian website with some flash, not even video) and cpu goes 100% | 05:54 |
| Lunks | telexicon: can I blame it on Xorg, then? =D | 05:55 |
| cycom | Xorg is using 22% | 05:55 |
| cycom | that's about it | 05:55 |
| telexicon | i dunno | 05:55 |
| cycom | oh, firefox is at 15% | 05:55 |
| cycom | are you running desktop effects? | 05:55 |
| telexicon | of course not | 05:55 |
| telexicon | why would i have that crap on? | 05:56 |
| telexicon | im already on a lower-end system | 05:56 |
| cycom | the website you sent me too did get a bit choppy | 05:56 |
| telexicon | it just seems like all the devs with their big fancy powerful rigs are racing off into high performance requirements | 05:56 |
| telexicon | and im stuck on a lower-end system, and everything is getting slower | 05:57 |
| cycom | also, I'd like to point out that I ran desktop effects (wobbly windows, expo, etc) on a TiBook with an 867mhz proc and a 32mb video card. | 05:57 |
| telexicon | i have 16mb video card | 05:57 |
| telexicon | ive run desktop effects in the past (it took some tweaking), but things would get scrambled | 05:58 |
| DanaG | Ugh, I can't get it to look good. | 06:01 |
| DanaG | I don't know what changed, but ouch. | 06:01 |
| cycom | DanaG: what looks bad? | 06:02 |
| cycom | your fonts? | 06:02 |
| DanaG | Fonts. | 06:02 |
| DanaG | Yeah. | 06:02 |
| DanaG | IT looked fine a week ago, I believe. | 06:02 |
| DanaG | wtf... fontconfig-config was set to "Never" for subpixel! | 06:03 |
| DanaG | That's wrong. | 06:03 |
| cycom | did you check out System->Prefernces->Appearence->Fonts? | 06:03 |
| DanaG | Yeah, I've tried all the settings. | 06:04 |
| cycom | and it was set to subpixel smoothing? | 06:04 |
| DanaG | Oh, and iwl3945 wifi driver is also way buggy. | 06:04 |
| DanaG | You try to rfkill it, and it actually DISABLES the interrupt! | 06:04 |
| DanaG | Bye bye, wifi! | 06:04 |
| DanaG | Oh wait, I know one thing that changed: I changed "DejaVu Sans" to just Sans. | 06:05 |
| DanaG | Apparently it's not an alias. | 06:05 |
| cycom | I just disabled and re-enabled my iwl3945 just fine... | 06:06 |
| DanaG | Try leaving it disabled for a while, and look in dmesg. | 06:07 |
| cycom | for how long? | 06:08 |
| DanaG | [20337.724638] iwl3945: MAC is in deep sleep! | 06:08 |
| DanaG | [20337.836426] iwl3945: WARNING: Requesting MAC access during RFKILL wakes up NIC -- these two lines repeat 3 times | 06:08 |
| DanaG | [20337.844942] ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:03:00.0 disabled | 06:08 |
| DanaG | 10 seconds may do it, or sometimes it takes longer. | 06:08 |
| cycom | ok, gimme a sec | 06:08 |
| DanaG | You end up having to unload and reload iwl3945. | 06:11 |
| DanaG | Argh, lameness: can't reload fontconfig on the fly. | 06:13 |
| cycom | DanaG: nope... nothing like that | 06:14 |
| DanaG | Odd. | 06:14 |
| * DanaG goes off to zap the x server, because otherwise he can't reload fontconfig info. | 06:14 | |
| === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| DanaG | Oh yeah, my fonts were perfectly fine LAST week; something just broke them this week. | 06:15 |
| cycom | well, it _is_ alpha software... | 06:16 |
| === Sebast1an is now known as Sebastian | ||
| DanaG | Ouch, it's very literally giving me a headache. | 06:20 |
| Lunks | DanaG: Yeah, deja vu sans book looks better | 06:24 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fontconfig/+bug/200707 | 06:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 200707 in fontconfig "fontconfig does not honor hintslight, hintmedium, hintfull" [Undecided,New] | 06:28 |
| Lunks | DanaG: increasing dpi changed my world | 06:29 |
| Lunks | brb | 06:29 |
| DanaG | Make sure DPI is correct for your display. | 06:30 |
| Lunks | Besides fonts on appearance, where else I should change DPI? | 06:34 |
| DanaG | That's all. | 06:35 |
| DanaG | Just make sure it matches the real DPI of your screen. | 06:35 |
| Lunks | Hmm how can I find out? | 06:35 |
| Lunks | 100dpi looks much, much better | 06:35 |
| DanaG | http://members.ping.de/~sven/dpi.html | 06:36 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, I had an unofficial version of libcairo; I don't know how. | 06:37 |
| Lunks | It says 98.02ppi | 06:37 |
| Lunks | ppi = dpi? | 06:37 |
| DanaG | Yeah. | 06:38 |
| Lunks | I'll ignore it and use 100. :P | 06:38 |
| DanaG | wtf... somehow it got set to 94. | 06:38 |
| * DanaG goes off to reboot | 06:39 | |
| DanaG | That fixed it. | 06:43 |
| DanaG | T'was the unofficial libcairo. | 06:43 |
| DanaG | Must've been the ones with the "Cleartype" sort of font rendering.... which I despise. | 06:44 |
| DanaG | Odd... Full and Medium look EXACTLY the same. | 06:46 |
| DanaG | Like, pixel-perfect, at least subjectively. | 06:46 |
| DanaG | For my next laptop, I'm strongly considering getting a 147DPI display. | 07:00 |
| === Hobbsee` is now known as Hobbsee | ||
| kayess | Hiya, got intrepid running on my IBM R61 laptop -- got a few questions, not sure if they're bugs or not | 07:47 |
| kayess | It's running kubuntu alpha 4 | 07:48 |
| cypherdelic | morning | 07:49 |
| kayess | First off, the splash screen. Sometimes it seems to cause X to be invisible after it starts and switching to a console just shows a corrupt image of the splash | 07:49 |
| cypherdelic | One question: How to deactiavate the Networkconnection-Systray-ICON? The Icon annoys me, i never need it. Please help | 07:50 |
| cypherdelic | i guess its Session > Network Applet xD | 07:54 |
| === fargiolas|afk is now known as fargiolas | ||
| hubuntu | Network Manager applet is inisible since last week or so... anybody experiencing this? | 09:21 |
| hubuntu | it's really annoying since I'm testing nm with Mobile Broadband equipment... | 09:21 |
| === DreamThief is now known as LameSucker | ||
| === WhiskeySour is now known as DreamThief | ||
| === LameSucker is now known as WhiskeySour | ||
| Laney | Grr, getting skipping audio | 11:13 |
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| kahrytan | I love this mockup, http://fc01.deviantart.com/fs31/i/2008/215/0/b/Interpid_Ibex_Mockup_Part_2_by_willwill100.png | 12:23 |
| PolitikerALT | yeah, it is rather good - but the login screen is undoable, I think | 12:29 |
| kahrytan | You got other mock ups? | 12:35 |
| kahrytan | screenshots of that mockup | 12:35 |
| zniavre | http://danrabbit.deviantart.com/art/Willwill-s-Intrepid-GDM-94051500 | 12:38 |
| kahrytan | Why is it not possible? | 12:44 |
| kahrytan | Ubuntu needs to dump normal grub though and switch to gfxboot | 12:46 |
| kahrytan | like most other distros have done now | 12:46 |
| zniavre | never tried other distro ... | 12:48 |
| kahrytan | the old cli grub no longer looks good | 12:48 |
| kahrytan | ill take this boot splash (http://farm1.static.flickr.com/153/351969105_18d03118ed.jpg?v=0) over ubuntu traditional anyday | 12:50 |
| cypherdelic | Hello. Please, where to put *.fw files (firmware) in Ibex? I cant find /lib/firmware/2.6.25...? Please help. | 13:50 |
| s0u][ight | hi guys | 14:01 |
| deucalion | hi! anyone using networkmanager v0.7 from ppa and had problems with dhcp? there seems to be a communication issue on the dbus level... dhclient doesn't communicate its data back to nm after recieving configuration data and I don't know how to fix/debug this... any ideas? (using 2.6.26 on a wired connection with dhcp3-client v3.1) | 14:12 |
| deucalion | (or is there an irc channel for network-manager/dbus, by any chance?) | 14:12 |
| deucalion | ah... #nm | 14:13 |
| deucalion | sorry for the noise ;) | 14:13 |
| regel | how stable is intrepid atm? | 14:30 |
| s0u][ight | regel: it is still alpha software it speaks for itself | 14:31 |
| s0u][ight | everything is in a way still broken | 14:31 |
| regel | i know, but i've always started using ubuntu+1 in a3-stage, and they've been pretty stable | 14:31 |
| s0u][ight | a4 is out :) | 14:31 |
| regel | well... quess it's time to start living on the edge again | 14:32 |
| regel | .. | 14:32 |
| s0u][ight | :D regel i remember you from somewhere can you help me? | 14:32 |
| regel | that depends on the problem :) | 14:33 |
| s0u][ight | meaning where do i know you from? | 14:33 |
| regel | hmm | 14:33 |
| regel | i used to be pretty active in ubuntuforums.org | 14:34 |
| regel | and every now and then i get an hour or so to help in #ubuntu | 14:34 |
| regel | and in #ubuntu-fi | 14:34 |
| s0u][ight | hmm did you ever joined #shnix and ever translated with launchpad? | 14:34 |
| s0u][ight | meaning invited to that channel | 14:35 |
| regel | nope, never joined, but im part of the finnish translators of ubuntu | 14:35 |
| s0u][ight | regel: now ive remembered :D we had a little conv a while ago in #ubuntu | 14:36 |
| regel | :) very possible | 14:36 |
| regel | or was it in ubuntu-offtopic? | 14:36 |
| s0u][ight | dont remember that | 14:37 |
| regel | if u mean the debate on russia-georgia war | 14:37 |
| s0u][ight | no long ago | 14:37 |
| regel | :) | 14:37 |
| kaarel | hello, can someone help me with the problem of deafult theme not loading after log in? | 15:09 |
| s0u][ight | kaarel: i think thats a known bug | 15:10 |
| kaarel | oh, do you have a link to launchpad for that bug? | 15:14 |
| s0u][ight | kaarel: look at the known bugs list here http://www.ubuntu.com/testing/intrepid/alpha4 | 15:17 |
| s0u][ight | https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257317 | 15:17 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 257317 in human-theme "Default theme does not work" [Undecided,New] | 15:17 |
| s0u][ight | cool skill of the bot | 15:18 |
| kaarel | thanks | 15:26 |
| mohkohn_ | Is Intrepid goint to support the wireless and nic on the EEEPC 701 out of the box? | 15:27 |
| tipote_ | Hi all ! I'd like to help debugging bug #247393, and I have been suggested by kde guys to downgrade to qt 4.4.0 to see if 4.4.1 is the root of the issue. Can I easily downgrade ? | 15:55 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 247393 in kdebase-workspace "[Intrepid KDE4] regression -- systray is incorrectly painted" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/247393 | 15:55 |
| JontheEchidna | tipote_: that bug was reported before 4.4.1 | 16:03 |
| JontheEchidna | There was a systray bug introduced with Qt 4.4.1 | 16:04 |
| JontheEchidna | but we included a patch to kdebase-workspace to fix it | 16:04 |
| tipote_ | JontheEchidna : how do you know that ? That would be interesting to check. | 16:05 |
| JontheEchidna | tipote_: reported date is before Qt 4.4.1's release date | 16:05 |
| tipote_ | JontheEchidna : well, that's a good point ! | 16:07 |
| JontheEchidna | ;-) | 16:07 |
| tipote_ | JontheEchidna : for completeness, what patch are you refering to ? | 16:08 |
| JontheEchidna | uh, just a minute | 16:08 |
| JontheEchidna | hmm, maybe it wasn't workspace | 16:09 |
| tipote_ | I can't see it there either | 16:10 |
| JontheEchidna | KDE released a patch that we used | 16:10 |
| JontheEchidna | maybe it was for Qt itself... | 16:10 |
| JontheEchidna | You could ask apachelogger | 16:11 |
| tipote_ | JontheEchidna : hmm, I see something in qt4-x11 | 16:13 |
| JontheEchidna | yeah, that's the patch | 16:13 |
| tipote_ | "Add kubuntu_08_systray_fix.diff, should fix systray not showing icons" | 16:14 |
| JontheEchidna | You have a systray that's blank, right? | 16:14 |
| JontheEchidna | still has width, etc, but is totally black | 16:14 |
| tipote_ | JontheEchidna: Not black but totally filled with garbage from other parts of the screen | 16:17 |
| JontheEchidna | oh | 16:17 |
| JontheEchidna | then no that's not Qt related | 16:17 |
| JontheEchidna | the ubuntu bug should even have a link to the proper KDE bug report | 16:17 |
| tipote_ | JontheEchidna: I'm afraid the KDE bug report is not the right one, because it's about icons _background_ being replaced by garbage | 16:18 |
| JontheEchidna | oh | 16:19 |
| JontheEchidna | never heard of that one | 16:19 |
| === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG | ||
| DanaG | Grrr... nvidia. | 16:21 |
| DanaG | Stupid video driver gave severe video corruption on resume from suspend. | 16:21 |
| asfak | why as user i can't access windows drive from dolphin in kubuntu intrepid a4 ? | 16:57 |
| === WhiskeySour is now known as DreamThief | ||
| === marko_ is now known as marko-_- | ||
| === Sebast1an is now known as Sebastian | ||
| === geser_ is now known as geser | ||
| andre_pl | if I revert my apt sources to hardy and upgrade again will everything roll back? or is that too much magic to ask for? | 19:41 |
| DanaG | andre_pl: it's "possible" to downgrade, but it's quite rather tricky, and risky. | 19:42 |
| Pici | andre_pl: too much to ask for | 19:42 |
| DanaG | Too much chance of breakage. | 19:42 |
| andre_pl | Not too worried about breakage. intrepid is pretty broken anyway :P | 19:43 |
| LSD|Ninja | Isn't breakage all part of the fun of Linux? | 19:43 |
| andre_pl | its either breakage, or I have to go buy some blank cd's and burn and reinstall.. and I dont want to go anywhere. :P | 19:44 |
| andre_pl | all for zsnes. :P | 19:44 |
| IdleOne | andre_pl, save the aggravation and go get the cd's | 19:48 |
| andre_pl | bah. that's like an hour long bus ride. | 19:48 |
| andre_pl | i'd rather spend 12 hours making zsnes work. :P | 19:49 |
| DanaG | You can always just not update the Intrepid system for a while. | 19:49 |
| DanaG | Or just stick with Intrepid. | 19:49 |
| IdleOne | will take you long to try and fix the breakage from rolling ( trying that is ) back | 19:49 |
| DanaG | What's broken with zsnes? | 19:49 |
| andre_pl | doesn't run at all, tried the version in repos, and compiling from 1.51 and 1.51b source code. | 19:49 |
| andre_pl | just core dumps | 19:50 |
| Pici | bugs filed? | 19:50 |
| DanaG | Tried running it in gdb? | 19:50 |
| andre_pl | i dont really know how to use gdb. | 19:51 |
| DanaG | Simplest part of how to use it: | 19:51 |
| DanaG | gdb program_name | 19:51 |
| andre_pl | did that. | 19:52 |
| DanaG | 'r' (to run) | 19:52 |
| andre_pl | k | 19:52 |
| DanaG | 'bt' (to backtrace) | 19:52 |
| DanaG | ... once it dumps, that is. | 19:52 |
| DanaG | and 'q' to quit. | 19:52 |
| andre_pl | cool | 19:52 |
| andre_pl | got it. | 19:52 |
| DanaG | Of course, don't include the single-quote marks. =þ | 19:52 |
| andre_pl | http://rafb.net/p/qJNiFv98.html | 19:52 |
| andre_pl | doesn't seem very helpful. zsnes itself dumps a lot more data than that when it dies | 19:54 |
| DanaG | Aah, needs some sort of dbgsym packages. | 19:59 |
| DanaG | !dbgsym | 19:59 |
| ubottu | dbgsym is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash | 19:59 |
| DanaG | wtf... I clicked a link, and it opened in a completely untitled web browser. | 20:00 |
| DanaG | "Nopaste - No Description" -- what about the program name? | 20:00 |
| DanaG | Help->About: | 20:00 |
| DanaG | Web Browser 2.22.3 | 20:00 |
| DanaG | What kind of person names their web browser "" | 20:01 |
| DanaG | As in empty string? | 20:01 |
| DanaG | Or "Web Browser" ? | 20:01 |
| DanaG | ... and Firefox IS set as default browser in Gnome. | 20:01 |
| andre_pl | ? | 20:01 |
| andre_pl | wierd. | 20:01 |
| DanaG | /etc/alternatives/x-www-browser -> /usr/bin/epiphany-gecko | 20:02 |
| DanaG | Odd... I never set that. | 20:02 |
| andre_pl | there is no dbg package for zsnes, but I have the source code, I can compile it however i need to if its going to help track down the problem. | 20:02 |
| DanaG | There are 3 alternatives which provide `x-www-browser'. 1 /usr/bin/xlinks2 2 /usr/bin/epiphany-webkit 3 /usr/bin/epiphany-gecko | 20:03 |
| DanaG | Where's my Firefox? | 20:03 |
| DanaG | ARGH! | 20:03 |
| DanaG | GIVE ME BACK MY FIREFOX! | 20:03 |
| DanaG | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/185622/comments/21 | 20:07 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 185622 in firefox-3.0 "Firefox 3 doesn't act as the default browser" [High,Fix released] | 20:07 |
| andre_pl | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zsnes/+bug/259846 | 20:08 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 259846 in zsnes "zsnes core dumps" [Undecided,New] | 20:08 |
| andre_pl | is that bug report ok? | 20:08 |
| DanaG | Even better... removing Epiphany makes it use links2 to open web links! | 20:08 |
| DanaG | ARGH! | 20:08 |
| DanaG | I don't know; that page doesn't work in links2. | 20:09 |
| DanaG | =þ | 20:09 |
| andre_pl | llol | 20:09 |
| DanaG | note to self: don't use Firefox betas... it breaks the existing Firefox, rather than restricting itself to adding a new one. | 20:10 |
| DanaG | Aah, installing the dbgsym debs would help, perhaps. | 20:12 |
| DanaG | ... after reinstalling the packaged version, of course. | 20:12 |
| andre_pl | pkg-create-dbgsym? | 20:13 |
| DanaG | !dbgsym | 20:14 |
| ubottu | dbgsym is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash | 20:14 |
| DanaG | It needs adding to sources.list. | 20:14 |
| andre_pl | okok, I installed zsnes-dbgsym but gdb zsnes says "No Debugging Symbols Found" | 20:18 |
| astra-xwork | after I do an initial, first time "apt-get upgrade" i get this error: http://pastebin.ca/1179930 | 20:19 |
| astra-xwork | yet I am not running ibex, this is a standard 8.04 install | 20:19 |
| DanaG | Hmm, I'm not sure what else to do for that crash. | 20:26 |
| astra-xwork | it seems like unsolvable bug | 20:27 |
| astra-xwork | and my dedicated server has that image with that bug | 20:27 |
| DanaG | I do get a few lines more information under GDB. | 20:27 |
| DanaG | Perhaps add the output of 'bt' to the bug report. | 20:27 |
| astra-xwork | is there anyway to break and reset aptitude? | 20:28 |
| DanaG | Backtrace stopped: previous frame inner to this frame (corrupt stack?) | 20:28 |
| DanaG | Reset aptitude? | 20:28 |
| DanaG | It'll abort on ctrl-backslash. | 20:28 |
| DanaG | But make sure you're at a point where it's safe to do so. | 20:28 |
| DanaG | Or do you just mean unset changes? That's under "Actions" | 20:28 |
| astra-xwork | DanaG, are you talking at me | 20:29 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, the thing about backtrace was for andre_pl; the thing about aptitude was for astra-xwork. | 20:29 |
| andre_pl | DanaG: unsolvable bug? | 20:31 |
| astra-xwork | sorry | 20:32 |
| astra-xwork | anyway i found a solution to my problem | 20:32 |
| astra-xwork | it is literally mkdir /lib/modules/2.6.26 | 20:32 |
| astra-xwork | /duh | 20:32 |
| mattik | Hello, What is right keyboard layout for scandinavian Asus M6000 laptop | 20:39 |
| mattik | I'm using Finnish, but I don't know what is right keyboard model | 20:40 |
| ma10 | lol.. i just made the latest updates to my intrepid server installation. now when i try to login (console, ssh) all i get is the motd and "Cannot make/remove an entry for the specified session". Then another login prompt. | 20:43 |
| * ma10 is dazed | 20:43 | |
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| tipote_ | Is there a working profiling solution (with a GUI) in intrepid ? I can't build sysprof-module, and oprof_start refuses to be executed (missing library)... | 20:44 |
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| ma10 | mhh some 4$$h013 was trying to bruteforce my ssh | 20:57 |
| tipote_ | By the way, I can't find any linux-image-debug package with vmlinux. That was shipped for edgy at least according to google; is it still somewhere for the current kernels ? | 21:00 |
| DanaG | Arg, now my suspend no longer works properly. | 21:26 |
| DanaG | When I resume, I get a black screen.... and NetworkManager thinks wireless is disabled. | 21:26 |
| DanaG | .. so I have to uncheck "enable networking" and then re-check "enable networking". | 21:26 |
| bobg3 | hello | 21:41 |
| johninlex | hello all | 22:07 |
| slangasek | hi, would an operator mind adding the following to the topic?: libpam-runtime 1.0.1-2ubuntu1 badly broken, see bug #259867 | 22:12 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 259867 in pam "[PAM] Unable to login: Cannot make/remove an entry for the specified session" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259867 | 22:12 |
| slangasek | (on the subject of "Only developers comfortable with recovering system from total system failure should use it") | 22:12 |
| slangasek | !ops | 22:13 |
| ubottu | Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Mez, LjL, elkbuntu, imbrandon, DBO, gnomefreak, Hobbsee, rob, ompaul, Madpilot, CarlK, crimsun, ajmitch, tritium, Nalioth, thoreauputic, apokryphos, tonyyarusso, PriceChild, Amaranth, jrib, jenda, nixternal, Myrtti, mneptok, Pici, Jack_Sparrow, nickrud, jpds, bazhang, jussi01, or Flannel! | 22:13 |
| slangasek | well, not "emergency", but :P | 22:13 |
| === Mez changed the topic of #ubuntu+1 to: Welcome to the home of the Intrepid Ibex, the code name for the next release of Ubuntu due out in October. For more info, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IntrepidIbex Intrepid is ALPHA software, and we do NOT recommend users upgrade at this time. Only developers comfortable with recovering system from total system failure should use it. | libpam-runtime 1.0.1-2ubuntu1 badly broken, see bug #259867 | ||
| DanaG | gnome bug 133318 | 22:31 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 133318 in Keybinding "Unnecessarily annoying when trying to define key that is already in use" [Minor,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=133318 | 22:31 |
| Flannel | slangasek: in the future you can ask in #ubuntu-ops, in a nice relaxed manner :) | 22:31 |
| DanaG | the changelog thingy just says "#133318" -- that's not very useful. | 22:31 |
| slangasek | Flannel: heh, noted | 22:31 |
| DanaG | gnome bug 545275 | 22:32 |
| ubottu | Gnome bug 545275 in sound "sound devices listed several times" [Enhancement,Resolved: fixed] http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545275 | 22:32 |
| DanaG | there's no way to trigger this by /msg. | 22:32 |
| DanaG | bug 259867 | 22:34 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 259867 in pam "[PAM] Unable to login: Cannot make/remove an entry for the specified session" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259867 | 22:34 |
| DanaG | Oh yeah, update-manager does not show versions. | 22:35 |
| DanaG | I have a policy of not installing updates if I can't see changelogs. | 22:37 |
| DanaG | It's handily kept me one round back, so I miss things like that pam breakage (no changelog == I haven't installed it, and thus now I can see the message in the channel). | 22:37 |
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| === yuriy__ is now known as yuriy | ||
| dupondje | wtf :) | 23:28 |
| dupondje | seems like my pass is gone ... :s | 23:28 |
| dupondje | can't login anymore to my pc :s | 23:28 |
| dupondje | can login ... but it gets back to login directly :s | 23:29 |
| dupondje | wtf :p | 23:29 |
| RAOF | dupondje: See /topic ? | 23:29 |
| dupondje | oh sweet :P | 23:30 |
| Lunks | I'm trying to install LAMP package using tasksel and although there is an apt-get proccess running, it won't leave 0%! How can I positively know it's getting packages, or if I can't, how to properly install lamp without tasksel? | 23:56 |
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