[00:00] hi [00:00] !hi [00:00] Thanks for being polite. But we are so dang awesome at solving problems that we wish you would just ask your question. Thanks. [00:02] okay, i've got an "!!! Unknown header type 7f" error in lspci in my new assembled mythbuntu-pc [00:02] the card works fine in my other machine [00:03] satelco easywatch dvb-c [00:03] i've read something about eeprom_fix, is that the way to fix it? [00:04] no idea [00:04] i already changed the pci slot and everything [00:04] never seen that error before [00:05] I don't use dvb-c cards either [00:05] but if I had to guess [00:05] yeah i thing it's a problem of all budget cards... [00:05] yes, that would sound like a reasonable fix, provided that you didn't just need to load firmware for it [00:06] the firmware was loaded after the first few boots- without any good reason it stopped working [00:06] that's why i think it's a eeprom (whatever that is) problem [00:06] IIRC, nothing in computers is random [00:07] yea, i don't think it's the eeprom from that description [00:07] but like I said, I don't know [00:07] okay thank you [00:07] maybe someone more knowledgable on that will stop by [00:07] i'm googeling a bit more [00:07] and idle [01:08] is there a document that tells you how to go through the initial setup of mythbuntu using the alternate install cd? [01:08] I seem to have messed up the database portion of it, and I don't see the section covering that in the users guide I downloaded. [01:12] Installation Manual I mean. === superm1|away is now known as superm1 [02:51] can mythbuntu install on an LVM? [02:53] guys is it ok to upgrade from mythbuntu 7.10 to 8.04, no showstoppers? [02:53] I know on the website it says just follow the standard release upgrade instructions, but is there anything else to be aware of [02:53] kernel_ghost u use a remote? [02:54] squish102: yes [02:54] let me know how it goes ;) [02:54] squish102: whys that [02:54] i did that upgrade, no big showstoppers other than for the life of me, i cannot get my remote working again after that [02:55] squish102: ahh ok [02:56] in retrospect, i probably should have left a perfectly working 7.10 [02:56] but sometimes you get drawn into upgrading [02:57] i have good reasons to upgrade, this is the oldest unit in a 4 mythbox setup, and i want to connect it in with the rest [02:57] squish102, yeah it can [02:57] but you need to use the alternate disk to do so [02:58] ? [02:59] superm1? [03:00] can mythbuntu install on an LVM? [03:05] oh, thanks superm1 [06:20] moment of truth people, doing mythbuntu 7.10 to 8.04 upgrade, if something dies I'm coming in here with an ak47 [06:20] 1m 48s for package downloads to complete.. [06:28] Hey, I have mythtv insatlled on ubuntu, I have everything working except, for some reason the audio is terrible, I have the audio going from audio out ( Sabrent SBT-tv tuner) to my audio in ( audigy 2 ), before it will work i have to mute and unmute pcm capture several times, and i will either get a really bad echo, or really horrible sound quality [06:28] * tgm4883_laptop gathers bulletproof vest and A4M1 [06:32] maybe you have the sound card looping sound through itself as well as MythTV playing [06:35] Greybeard, see thats kinda what i thought, but i dont know how you would fix that [06:36] turn off the playback of line int [06:36] line-in [06:36] Greybeard, its actually going through the mic port, so yeah that is muted, nm that isnt the problem [06:37] mic probably isn't ideal anyway [06:37] the level could be wrong, as it could be applying pre-amplification [06:37] Greybeard, I have an audigy 2, I at least THOUGHT the port next to it was the input, however when i plug it into that port I get no audio [06:38] Greybeard, one thing i thought about trying was plugging it into my onboard audio, however I dont think that it will work while the audigy 2 is enabled [06:39] why not? [06:39] Greybeard, im not sure, I know it should, but it wont [06:39] Greybeard, the onbaord is listed as HDA Intel [06:40] ok [06:40] Greybeard, neither speakers nor headphones work through it [06:40] Greybeard, it did work initially however, before i installed the audigy 2 [06:41] Im not sure, what do you think? [06:41] I have no idea [06:42] I don't know enough about your system or the nature of the problem [06:42] Do you think you could offer some advice if I gave you more information? [06:42] quite possibly [06:43] first, I think you should connect something to line in, rather than microphone in [06:43] Greybeard, il give it a try, however I wasnt able to get audio from line in, hold on one moment [06:43] Grey alright it is now connected to line in, [06:44] can you hear it coming out of the speakers? [06:44] There is an audio out jack from the tv card, i have a wire running from ther eto the audio in on the Audigy 2 [06:44] Nope i can't [06:44] Line2 and Line-in are both unmuted on the mixer [06:44] playback or recording? [06:44] Play back, lin-in actually doesnt show up on recording [06:45] Online lin2 capture, which is unmuted [06:45] only line 2 capture* [06:46] well, you're going to need to figure out the right jack to to plug into so that you can hear it coming out of the speakers [06:46] Greybeard, I think I might not have a line-in, I think that my only option on the audigy is the microhpone [06:46] I doubt it [06:47] Greybeard, hang on one sec, let me show you what it looks like [06:47] Greybeard, http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1f/Soundblaster_Audigy2_ZS.jpg [06:47] I was assuming that the line in jack is the one directly left of the digital out jack [06:47] and right of the microphone jack [06:48] that's where a manual might come in handy [06:48] Greybeard, haha, well the only port that isnt being used [06:48] is the one im talkinga bout [06:48] and the digital out jack [06:49] the rest are for my speakers [06:49] and those I KNOW are setup correctly [06:50] some of these cards can use the same jack for two different functions I think [06:50] some may be software switchable between analog and digital [06:51] Greybeard, hold on a moment, let me check, i dont have the manual as i bought this years ago but i'll google it [06:51] man, creative's model names are confusing [06:52] Greybeard, yeah... great boards though, they sound fantastic [06:52] they don't even list an Audigy 2 ZS on their support page [06:52] yeah, the quality's OK [06:52] I've had a number of Creative boards [06:52] Greybeard, well the ZS is a limited edition and its kinda old [06:52] I'm using an Audigy 4 something right now, but it's quite different from yours [06:53] I was going to get a 4, but i really didnt see a difference between 2 and 4, the Xi-fi's have quite a big difference though [06:53] The quality is outstanding, however their are HUGE problems iwth those boards [06:53] Driver issues and parts going bad [06:53] there's probably very little difference except for the plugs on it [06:53] Linux calls my Audigy 4 an Audigy 2, so I think there's very little difference inside [06:53] Trust me, you can hear the difference :P, but its not worth it, they are horribly built, really too bad [06:54] yeah aud 4 and 2, but the Xi-fi truly is superior [06:54] well actually, screw this, this isnt worth it, woudl you mind helping me try and get the hda intel to work? [06:54] huh? [06:54] The line-in on that is marked [06:54] I don't have any experience with Intel audio [06:55] but if you take out the Creative card, it should just work [06:55] Greybeard, but then i lose my speakers :p cant plug them into the intel [06:55] why not? [06:57] 6 speaker surround sound [06:57] one speaker port onbaord [06:57] wow, cheap board [06:57] lol it is an onboard [06:57] ok hang on [06:58] something weird is going on [06:58] my Via boards have 6 or 8 channels on board [06:58] ok so im talking to someone on skype right? [06:58] they can hear my tv [06:58] and its plugged into what i thought was the line in on the audigy [06:58] because it's plugged into the mic in [06:58] nope [06:58] you said it was mic [06:58] it WAS plugged into that [06:58] but i plugged it into the one next to the mic [06:58] i dont hear anything [06:58] but i guess he can hear it [06:59] Thats kinda weird isnt it ? [06:59] well, it's plugged into whichever input Skype is capturing from [06:59] sorry * ventrilo* [07:00] Haha great, and ventrilo doesnt tell me [07:00] So basically, i think that is the line in, but for somereason line-in doesnt show up on the mixer options in recording [07:00] but im thinking that it SHOULD [07:01] well, first get it working for playback [07:01] alrighty, well he can hear it hmm... [07:01] i dont have anyhting muted [07:02] Greybeard, lets try this [07:02] AHH! [07:02] I found it, analog mix [07:02] yeah, there are lots of settings [07:02] sometimes you just have to experiment with them all [07:02] Yeah.. the audigy has too many hah [07:02] all emu10k1-based ones do [07:02] Ok, well this is progress so great, [07:03] so now, how do i figure out which dev/whateve that is for myth? [07:03] I'm about to run mythtv config for the first time; if I don't do it now, how much harder is to add a TV Capture card later? [07:03] I'm not sure what you mean [07:03] Anusien: you can add cards later [07:03] alrighty, so in the setup for myth, there is a place to select which audio dev/*inputnumberhere* to use [07:04] do i just have to guess the number? [07:04] well, in ALSA, inputs are named, not numbered [07:04] I'm not that familiar with capturing audio in MythTV [07:04] I have MPEG2 encoder and ATSC receiver cards, so I haven't had to do that with MythTV [07:05] Greybeard, hang on let me look at it so i can show you exactly what im talking about ;) [07:06] OK, I finally found the diagram for all the connectors on your card [07:06] http://support.creative.com/manuals/download.aspx?nDownloadId=7127&prodName=Audigy 2 ZS & Audigy 2 ZS Platinum Users Guide English [07:06] I had to install xchm to view it [07:07] Line in is second from the top [07:07] next to digital out [07:08] Greybeard, yep thats the one i have :0 === superm1 is now known as superm1|away [07:08] and you don't hear that coming out of the speakers? [07:09] Greybeard, no i do now, i unmuted the aux thing it i hear it now [07:09] ok this is what i meant [07:09] in mythtv, under mythsetup [07:09] ok, good [07:09] under Capture Cards setup [07:09] make sure it's muted when you're using MythTV [07:09] there is an option that says Audio device: /dev/dsp1 is what its set to now [07:09] now, how do i set the audio to aux? [07:10] you're using the emu10k1 ALSA driver, right? [07:10] Greybeard, im suing also thats all i know, how would i check that? [07:11] cat /proc/asound/cards [07:11] I have: [07:11] 0 [Audigy2 ]: Audigy2 - Audigy 4 [SB0610] [07:11] Audigy 4 [SB0610] (rev.0, serial:0x10211102) at 0xa000, irq 19 [07:11] 2 [Audigy2 ]: Audigy2 - Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350] [07:11] Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350] (rev.4, serial:0x20021102) at 0xd000, [07:11] and a few others [07:12] how many others? [07:12] 0 [Intel ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel [07:12] HDA Intel at 0xe5200000 irq 16 [07:12] 1 [SAA7134 ]: SAA7134 - SAA7134 [07:12] saa7130[0] at 0xe5105000 irq 20 [07:12] 2 [Audigy2 ]: Audigy2 - Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350] [07:12] Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350] (rev.4, serial:0x20021102) at 0xd000, irq 19 [07:12] 3 [U0x46d0x8d7 ]: USB-Audio - USB Device 0x46d:0x8d7 [07:12] USB Device 0x46d:0x8d7 at usb-0000:00:1d.2-1, full speed [07:12] Normally id paste bin but no one else is talking, hope you dont mind :p [07:12] the SAA7134 is your TV capture card, right? [07:12] correct [07:12] so, you don't need to mess with any cables [07:13] whatcha mean? [07:13] MythTV can record from the capture card's sound device [07:13] Greybeard, unfortunately that cards sound capture doesnt work [07:13] why not? [07:13] not sure, but ive googled it, and all the threads ive seen on it all end in ( just do audio out to your sound card) [07:14] which card is it? [07:14] I want MythTV to be able to see and stream video and audio that I already have on my hard drive. DO I just move that media to its directories (/var/lib/mythtv/videos for example) or is there another way to do it? [07:14] sabrent SBT-tvfm [07:14] Anusien: the MythVideo plugin can use it that way [07:14] trust me, ive done very extensive searching :p [07:14] ok [07:15] well, you'll need to use the ALSA device name for MythTV to capture [07:15] ok I think that is sbd1 [07:15] but how do i select which input to use? [07:16] in a mixer like alsamixer [07:16] Greybeard: For both audio and video? [07:17] Anusien: there's also the MythMusic plugin for playing music [07:17] I'm not sure what MythVideo will do with audio files [07:18] :P I think I found the appropriate pages on the wiki, so thanks. (Looks like I can just add :/home/anusien/Video/ and it will find it!) [07:18] yeah, basically [07:19] Too used to Windows land where that sort of thing is rather uncommon [07:19] which sort of thing? [07:19] Where it asks for a directory and you can give it multiple [07:19] ajhtiredwolf: "arecord -L" gives you the names of ALSA capture devices [07:20] for instance, mine has "front:CARD=Audigy2,DEV=0" as one of the capture devices [07:21] Greybeard, k one sec let me see if it works [07:21] Anusien: btw, MythVideo doesn't automatically scan for new media, but it does have an option called "browse" or something that lets you just navigate the directory [07:23] Was about to ask something similar; I have the directories, but neither music (even after scanning for new media) nor video show the new files [07:23] Greybeard, hmmm i see default:CARD=Audigy2 [07:23] Audigy 2 ZS [SB0350], ADC Capture/Standard PCM Playback [07:23] Default Audio Device [07:23] looks good [07:24] Greybeard, everyhting else its listing is intel [07:24] I think MythTV needs you to add ALSA: before any ALSA device name [07:24] Soooo how do i tell myth to use the aux for sound? [07:24] so, the whole string would be "ALSA:default:CARD=Audigy2" [07:25] I don't know if MythTV can select inputs [07:25] you probably have to do that with a mixer program like alsamixer [07:25] Directory to hold music: /var/lib/mythtv/music/:/home/anusien/music/ <-- that directory has a directory full of directories with the structure Arist\Album\Songs.mp3 So then I select Music Manager and Scan for New Music, and I don't see it in "Play Music" [07:25] Greybeard, where would i put that in? the ALSA:default:CARD=Audigy2 [07:26] that's the audio capture device [07:26] Hmmm it wont let me change it to that [07:27] what the.. it wont mechange it period, hang on a sec [07:28] http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html has more details [07:29] yeah there is a list under Audio devices [07:29] dev/dsp zero through three [07:29] it will only let me select one of those [07:30] you sure you can't type something? [07:30] i can [07:30] but after i hit finnish [07:30] it will go back to whatever it was before [07:31] it was working with the mic on dsp [07:31] 0 [07:31] and the mic is on the audigy, so that is probably right [07:31] Now i just need to tell it to use aux [07:32] the Audigy 2 is the third ALSA card, so it seems odd it would be mapped to /dev/dsp0 [07:32] *shrug* :-P [07:34] Greybeard: I think I configured MythMusic right (set directory to /var/lib/mythtv/music/:/home/anusien/music/) and I did Scan for New Music, but when I select Play Music I still see no songs. Any ideas please? [07:34] Greybeard, hmmm cant seem to get it to work though [07:35] Yeah none of those worked with aux [07:35] or played the aux [07:35] sorry [07:36] well, if you can't type the device in, you'll have to figure out which /dev/dsp device is the Audigy card [07:36] and your not sure how to tell myth which input to use? [07:36] im pretty sure its 0 [07:36] I'll say it for a third time: use alsamixer [07:36] because it was working with the mic when i put it on 0 [07:36] ohhh, im sorry ithought you meant someone else [07:36] sorry i was misunderstanding you [07:37] http://mythtv.org/docs/mythtv-HOWTO-7.html [07:41] Greybeard, il keep working on this, hey thanks allot for your help Greybeard your a hell of a guy ;) [07:43] you're welcome [07:44] I haven't configured a simple capture card like you have with MythTV, so I'm not sure of all the pitfalls [07:44] Im strongly considering getting one that can do audio processing on its own, but i dont know which ones would work good in linux [07:45] I have a couple of PVR-x50s that work pretty well [07:45] Pricey? [07:45] yeah, quite a bit more than the basic capture cards [07:45] This one was 19$ haha [07:46] and free shipping! :p [07:46] pvr-150, PC Components, Satellite Cable TV items on eBay.com [07:46] it looks like it would be about $45 [07:46] Id probably be looking in the 100$ market [07:47] Newegg has some nice ones from hauppage [07:47] Anusien, thats where i was looking, all the reviews said ( doesnt work well in linux) [07:47] couldnt find a single one that said differently :\ [07:47] I think I saw one that has two tuners (one HD one regular) and I think hardware encoding [07:47] :( [07:47] which card? [07:47] All the ones i looked at via newegg [07:47] i looked at all the top sellers [07:47] the HVR-1600 and HVR-1800 seem to be poor choices on Linux currently [07:49] Greybeard: so I had the directory as /var/lib/mythtv/music/:/home/anusien/music/ and that didn't work. But when I restored it to just /var/lib/mythtv/music, it could find an mp3 I dropped into that directory. So what is the syntax for multiple directories? [07:49] I think they do need to be separated with ":" [07:49] I had that, and it didn't work. but when I took the second directory off, it did! [07:51] as of jan 13, 2008 mythmusic didn't allow multiple directories! (http://www.mythtv.org/pipermail/mythtv-commits/2008-January/036255.html) has that changd? [07:52] Greybeard, oh hey one thing im guessing wont be possible to get working, but thought id ask, know anything about getitng remoate controls to work? [07:53] This tuner came iwth one [07:53] Greybeard: I think I found the answer. It appears MythMusic doesn't allow multiple directories, but someone suggested dropping a link in the MythMusic directory to whatever directories you want to search; this appears to be working [07:55] yeah, it looks like MythMusic doesn't do multiple directories [07:55] MythVideo does though [07:56] yeah, use symlinks [07:56] wolf: are you using Mythbuntu? [07:57] So I've done some googling and wiki surfing, and I can't find a lot of information on this; what sort of things do I have to do to config upnp? [07:57] I know next to nothing about UPNP, since I've never used it [07:57] Greybeard, I believe so, i used apt-get install mythtv to install it [07:57] Greybeard, thats fine, just thought id ask :) [07:58] supposedly it *just works* [07:58] * Anusien turns on the xbox hesitantly [07:58] well, the Mythbuntu install CD installs MythTV automatically [07:58] it has the ability to configure some remotes [08:00] yar it installed automatically, im pretty sure that it is the same package, i dont remember seeing remotes though [08:00] mythbuntu-control-centre can configure some IR stuff [08:01] ahh maybe i dont have mythbuntu then, its mythtv-insertcommand here [08:01] I didnt install mythbuntu i think because it had one star rating on the package manager [08:04] Mythbuntu is a distribution based on Ubuntu [08:04] Ohhh nm :p [08:04] http://mythbuntu.org/ [08:05] http://mythbuntu.org/existing-ubuntu [08:05] follow the instructions there [08:05] So it is its own desktop environment like gnome or kde? [08:05] no, it's neither [08:06] Mythbuntu is some packages in addition to the main MythTV ones and an installer CD [08:06] but you can install it on an existing Ubuntu system [08:06] the DE isn't very important to MythTV [08:06] Alrighty, will i need to remove my existing mythtv installation/ [08:06] no, you shouldn't need to remove anything [08:07] Il check it out later, first i wanna get mythtv working ;) [08:07] Thanks for the link though [08:07] mythbuntu-control-centre might help you get MythTV working [08:08] Aaanyway, no luck with UPnP, I'll try back later. Thanks for the help with MythMusic Greybeard [08:08] sure [08:08] I hardly use MythMusic [08:08] it's not that great [08:08] I'm not likely to either [08:08] but my UPnP client is an xbox360, so I think it's probably a matter of getting it configured [08:08] yeah, hopefully [08:09] I want it to have my music so I can stream to my xbox [08:09] I don't have any such devices, so I have no experience with that [08:09] music playback is also far less complicated than video, so it's a good test [08:09] PnP sounds like it shouldn't need configuration, but we all know how likely that is [08:10] I'm very new to MythTv so it's possible I just missed the config option to run it [08:12] but wiki and google content seems to be low on it, so it's either completely simple or deep deep magic [08:12] yeah, it's not always trivial to get working [08:12] Darn I dont see sabrent under the reomates [08:12] remotes* [08:12] I started using MythTV before Mythbuntu came along, so I configured things more manually [08:13] Il try custom [08:13] that is an option [08:14] anyway, thanks. Will be back later [08:14] ok [08:18] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallLirc/Hardy?highlight=(hardy)|(mythtv) [08:19] Greybeard, hmm if i set the linein as the recording source then my mic wont work for ventrilo im thinking [08:19] and skype [08:19] Grrr you should be abel to tell myth which input you want to use for audio, that would make allot of sense [08:20] I'm afraid I don't have any experience capturing audio with Myth [08:20] but it is possible to use the alsa tools like alsamixer or amixer [08:20] Oh hey thats reminds me [08:20] and it's not a good idea to have MythTV sharing any devices with other apps [08:21] not sure if you would know this [08:21] MythTV expects to have full access [08:21] before my capture card works, i always have to do rmmod saa7134 _also and rmmod saa7134 [08:21] then sudo saa7134 CARD=50 tuner = 3 also=1 [08:22] can i tell it to do that manually on boot? [08:22] sounds like you've got a screwy card [08:22] Indeed it is [08:22] sure, just put it in /etc/rc.local [08:23] anywhere after the commented message? [08:25] yeah [08:25] run it manually to make sure it works [08:26] sure i include the sudo? [08:26] or just rmmod *enter stuff here* [08:28] the script /etc/rc.local runs as root, so no sudo === croppa_ is now known as croppa [08:28] kk [08:28] grrrr [08:29] you may need to use full paths for the commands [08:29] the howto you sent me tells me to change that audy device in mythsetup to ALSA:default and i still cant change it to anything else [08:29] but dev/sbd1-3 [08:29] that would be a drive [08:30] are you talking about a capture or playback device? [08:31] The audio device [08:31] I have ALSA:default for my playback device, but I don't need audio capture with my hardware [08:31] im talking about in mythtv setup [08:31] audio capture or playback device? [08:31] capture [08:31] so, you're talking about recording [08:32] yeah, I don't know why it won't let you put whatever you want in there [08:32] weird [08:32] I wonder if there is a config file where i can edit it manually [08:34] no, that's all in the database [08:34] maybe you can edit the database more directly [08:34] I've used phpmyadmin [08:35] ohh wait ive got an idea [08:36] One sec [08:52] Nope that didnt work either [08:52] Ah well [08:52] il work on it later, toodles [09:14] ok, see you later [09:29] my movie descriptions no longer show up (instead saying simply "None" [09:29] any deas? [09:33] i am running mythbuntu 8.04, the latest packages [09:51] Hi, I have mythtv working pretty well for quite a while, but I have two channels that I can't get to work. I am in sydney Australia, and 7, 9, and 10 all work, but I can't get abc or sbs. Any hints on what to try/do to get the extra channels? [10:08] sup guys, anyone awake at this fine hour? [10:09] I have a noobish question for whomever may be so kind to answer - [10:09]