[00:00] <apathetic> i dont have any backed up confs :<
[00:00] <favro> what's the card?
[00:01] <apathetic> it cant find my card i want to use alsa drivers
[00:01] <favro> lspci |grep VGA   in a terminal will tell you
[00:02] <apathetic> hm, VIA Technologies, Inc. S3 Unichrome Pro VGA Adaper
[00:03] <favro> you'll need the vesa driver for that - one min
[00:04] <zzl> ok. is xbuntu good for a really really old desktop computer?
[00:04] <apathetic> ah vesa != alsa :P
[00:04] <apathetic> zzl: how old?
[00:04] <zzl> 1999 custom made
[00:04] <zzl> lol
[00:04] <apathetic> so like 233Mhz 128mb ram:ish?
[00:05] <zzl> yeah
[00:05] <zzl> it's kind of tweaky running ubuntu
[00:05] <apathetic> you could i guess, i'd install a minimal install, then install X then go with like blackbox however
[00:06] <favro> !paste
[00:07] <zzl> do you know of a OS that is very good for that kind of old computer like mine?
[00:07] <apathetic> netbsd
[00:07] <apathetic> but you could run xubuntu on yours :)
[00:07] <favro> apathetic: http://paste.ubuntu.com/38936/ - is a basic one to get you started
[00:07] <apathetic> not well, but you could
[00:07] <apathetic> favro: thanks
[00:08] <zzl> netbsd would do very well on a computer like mine?
[00:08] <favro> zzl: you could try puppylinux - ask in #puppylinux
[00:08] <apathetic> favro: hm but i dont know the sepcs of all that
[00:08] <apathetic> specs*
[00:10] <favro> apathetic: it is just a general one - http://paste.ubuntu.com/38938/ - I made a mistake in the first one
[00:10] <favro> apathetic: using a desktop or laptop?
[00:10] <apathetic> laptop
[00:11] <favro> apathetic: it should get you better res so you can google for a better one to suit you're lappy :)
[00:12] <favro> brb :)
[00:12] <zzl> does anyone know of a good OS that is good for my old computer that and that can run windows executibles well?
[00:12] <zzl> all I'm trying to do on that old computer is to use the windows .exe to view stocks
[00:12] <apathetic> try reactos
[00:16] <zzl> wow. only 35mb. lol
[00:19] <zzl> does anyone know of a good OS that is good for my old computer that and that can run windows executibles well? all I'm trying to do on that old computer is to use the windows .exe to view stocks
[00:19] <zzl> woops
[00:19] <zzl> wrong place
[00:22] <apathetic> favro: thanks it works really well, however i think it works too well, the max hz i ever had was 61, now i can get 76, is that really accurate? I dont want to destory my vision :P Also I can use really high reses for this small screen (1280x768) and it works, but im not sure if i trust this? :P
[00:23] <favro> apathetic: you'll need to google about your lappy and xorg /and or screen resolution to check
[00:24] <apathetic> favro: so the case could be that the hz update isnt accruate even if it says its 76 it could be 0?
[00:25] <favro> apathetic: no - it sholuld be acurate - just thought you should check if those rates are wise to use on your h/ware
[00:27] <apathetic> ah awesome, yeah it cant be that bad since i would use 61 as ive done before on etch :)
[00:30] <favro> so it's all good apathetic ?
[00:31] <apathetic> yeah, thanks alot :)
[01:22] <crimsun> cody-somerville: in the future, running the alsa-info.sh script is more useful
[01:22] <crimsun> cody-somerville: (and, I'm travelling very often these days, so I'm rarely online during standard USA business hours)
[02:11] <stevenw> hello all
[02:53] <bytor4232> Sup stevenw
[03:36] <steven_> hey bytor
[04:04] <Genelyk> Xubuntu    for  future  is  ELitebook  xD!
[06:04] <arrrghhh> hey, how can i isolate why my computer is locking up?  there's no errors in /var/log/messages, and the machine just becomes completely unresponsive.
[06:05] <arrrghhh> i have a feeling mediatomb is killing this little 800mhz machine, but i want to be certain it's not a hardware issue?
[07:44] <newbiew> hi
[07:45] <newbiew> i just install xubuntu and im having problems installing applications
[07:45] <wols> !errors | newbiew
[07:45] <newbiew> well i mean, founding... i cant found anything so i guess i need to click on the third party software
[07:46] <wols> apt-cache search <search term>
[07:46] <wols> and using 3rd party software is usually a bad idea
[07:46] <newbiew> for example.. i want to install open office but xubuntu does not come with that
[07:47] <newbiew> so now i need third party software.. but my question is.. which one i get.. ubuntu hardy, partner or ubuntu hardy partner (source)
[07:47] <newbiew> which one i select?
[07:47] <wols> neithjer
[07:48] <wols> standard ubuntu/xububunt repos have open office
[07:48] <wols> ubuntu and xubuntu repos are the same
[07:48] <wols> !info openoffice.org
[07:48] <newbiew> then why.. when search open office with synaptic never appear anything.. now that i select all the third party
[07:48] <newbiew> is there
[07:49] <wols> what repos do you have enabled? openoffice is in ubuntu main
[07:50] <newbiew> there are three.. and none was selected... there is.. cdrom: Xubuntu 8.04.1 _Hardy Heron_ - Release amd64 (20080702.1)}/ hardy main restricted
[07:50] <newbiew> there is also
[07:51] <wols> that is not the ubuntu repo but a CD
[07:51] <newbiew> http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu hardy partner
[07:51] <newbiew> and the third one is the same but at the end (source code)
[07:51] <wols> another wrong repo
[07:51] <wols> add the proper ubuntu repos
[07:52] <newbiew> then my question is...of why when i select this 3.. i was able to see a lot of new apps
[07:52] <newbiew> and also ask me for update
[07:52] <newbiew> what are this?
[07:54] <newbiew> sorry
[07:54] <newbiew> im back
[07:54] <newbiew> so what are this then? whats the difference
[07:54] <newbiew> and why when i install this i was able to see open office
[07:55] <newbiew> how i install the correct repos
[08:54] <ElAngelo> hey
[08:54] <ElAngelo> 1. is 2.6.27-rc3 available somewhere?
[08:54] <ElAngelo> 2. how big is the smallest install i can do with xubuntu but is still need something graphical
[08:54] <ElAngelo> and networkmanager
[09:06] <wols> ElAngelo: 1. no
[09:06] <ElAngelo> crap
[09:06] <wols> well, kernel.org has it but that's source only
[09:06] <ElAngelo> pfft
[09:08] <wols> no distro ever  will use a -rc kernel...
[09:10] <ElAngelo> some distro's are easier than others to add it yourself
[09:10] <ElAngelo> and i particurlarly hate .debs :P
[09:11] <wols> it'S very very easy to add it in debian based distros
[09:11] <ElAngelo> in lunar it's a matter of seconds to add it
[09:11] <wols> just stupid to do so why a rc kernel
[09:11] <ElAngelo> on debian it sucks
[09:11] <wols> why do you need THAT kernel?
[09:11] <ElAngelo> i need *THAT* kernel yeah
[09:11] <ElAngelo> trust me
[09:11] <wols> I doN't
[09:11] <ElAngelo> yoru call
[09:11] <wols> what does it have what you need?
[09:11] <ElAngelo> if you wanna know... i need ath9k ;)
[09:12] <wols> ick
[09:12] <wols> you really sure they actually work now?
[09:12] <ElAngelo> they work
[09:12] <ElAngelo> got them working on another distro
[09:13] <ElAngelo> but i got instructions on how to connect for ubuntu
[09:13] <wols> what distro ships with a rc kernel?
[09:13] <ElAngelo> and i need a plain wpa_supplicant.conf thing
[09:13] <ElAngelo> just told you...
[09:13] <wols> you said other distro
[09:13] <ElAngelo> a distro of which i'm dev :)
[09:13] <wols> which one?
[09:13] <wols> duh
[09:13] <wols> then you can compile your own kernel
[09:13] <ElAngelo> of course...
[09:14] <wols> then why don't you do it?
[09:14] <ElAngelo> but i despise the initrd shit in debinas
[09:14] <ElAngelo> cause i don't intend to keep it
[09:14] <wols> no one said you have to use it
[09:14] <ElAngelo> i want a quick install and then an rm -fr /
[09:14] <wols> my kernels don't have initrd
[09:14] <wols> that cannot ever work
[09:14] <wols> menuconfig the kernel, and use kernel-package. done
[09:15] <ElAngelo> yeah well... this is on a p1-166Mhz, i simply don't feel the urge to build a kernl
[09:15] <ElAngelo> k?
[09:15] <wols> build it on any other debian machine and copy over the deb
[09:15] <wols> I do that all the time
[09:16] <ElAngelo> i don't have debian machines...
[09:16] <ElAngelo> i hate debian in case you haven't noticed yet
[09:16] <wols> in case you haven't noticed: this is not debian
[09:16] <ElAngelo> i particularly despise apt-get
[09:16] <wols> lemme guess? gentoo?
[09:16] <wols> aka source based?
[09:17] <ElAngelo> not gentoo
[09:17] <ElAngelo> but yeah... source base
[09:17] <ElAngelo> lunar if you wanna know ;)
[09:34] <ElAngelo> anyway.... thnx :)
[10:15] <yallaxq> is there any free programs for converting mpeg2 > WMV ? i need to use vmw i belive, i need to uppload it to a server so the users can stream/download and watch the movie without installing any extra codecs
[10:16] <wols> yallaxq: unlikely. wmv is too proprietary
[10:16] <wols> yallaxq: use flash
[10:18] <yallaxq> flash.. how is that compared to wmv... quality/size
[10:18] <wols> yallaxq: it's definitely more used than wmv...
[10:18] <wols> check youtube
[10:19] <yallaxq> yeah.. youtube is too low ql tho.. i need it to be better than that.. more details
[10:22] <yallaxq> and what free application is able to do mpeg2 > flash?
[10:27] <wols> mencoder should
[10:27] <wols> ffmpeg maybe
[10:28] <menuhin> hi
[10:29] <menuhin> i am trying to install xubuntu but i get on the first screen on the cd only screen but the return key doesnt work
[10:30] <menuhin> how an i start at command line
[10:30] <menuhin> what ist the name of the kernel
[10:31] <wols> the CD shows you a menu when you boot from it
[10:31] <wols> there is no name to enter
[10:32] <menuhin> i leave the graphical because the enter key doesnt work
[10:32] <menuhin> ist there a name for the keren
[10:32] <wols> why?
[10:32] <wols> without an enter key you can't enter the name anyways
[10:32] <wols> not to mention the filename won't help you anyways
[10:33] <wols> there is a menu, there are nice little F1-F4 settings/options and that's it. do you see these things?
[10:33] <zelhar> hello
[10:33] <zelhar> Can I ask a question here ?
[10:33] <wols> sure
[10:34] <zelhar> I am trying tto add ¨us_intl¨ keyboard layout,
[10:35] <wols> !keyboard
[10:35] <menuhin> wols: sure at this point doesnt work the  keyboard properly
[10:35] <wols> menuhin: why not?
[10:35] <menuhin> wols: dono
[10:35] <zelhar> I edited xorg.conf, entered ¨us_intl¨ it didn´t work
[10:35] <wols> usb keyboard? if so, fix your bios
[10:35] <zelhar> I uses Xubuntu
[10:36] <wols> doesn't work
[10:36] <wols> !doesn't work
[10:36] <zelhar> laptop
[10:36] <menuhin> wo its t the keyboar the menu is broken
[10:37] <zelhar> anyone knows why ?
[10:38] <zelhar> I mean I added for example also hebrew keyboard which does work
[10:47] <favro> zelhar: right click the desktop and select settings then select keyboard then layout
[10:52] <zelhar> I don´t have this option, I use Xubuntu
[10:54] <favro> zelhar: then select application, settings, keyboard, layout
[10:55] <zelhar> There is no such option eithere, Xfce uses the keyboard setting from xorg.conf to the best of my understanding
[10:56] <favro> zelhar: I just did both ways on my xfce desktop...
[10:56] <zelhar> I have a theory, may be I should change the ¨xkbdmodel¨ from 105 to 104 or something else. I have laptop
[10:57] <zelhar> really?
[10:58] <favro> zelhar: https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/xubuntu/desktopguide/C/switch-keyboard-layout.html - this web link tells you how to edit xorg.conf and set the keyboard
[10:59] <Kardoso> hi
[11:00] <zelhar> ok, i am going to try it thank you
[11:01] <Kardoso> I have two hard disks, but usually I dont use the second. How can I turn it off?
[11:01] <Kardoso> I mean something like "turn harddisks off after x minutes" in windows
[11:04] <menuhin> wols: the cd was broken
[11:05] <favro> menuhin: there is a md5 check for cd's that should always be used :)
[11:05] <Kardoso> I want to say thanks to TheSheep, charlie-tca, Pici, and everyone who helped me at last times about installin. Now I have a working Xubuntu, which runs great on my old computer... Thank you guys!
[11:09] <Kardoso> Is there any "timer" feature to turn off my second hard disk in Xubuntu/Ubuntu?
[11:12] <menuhin> Kardoso: there was women kardosó who was called on my phone
[11:13] <Kardoso> sorry, my IRC client sometimes not perfect.... :S
[11:13] <menuhin> irssi?
[11:16] <Kardoso> menuhin: no, actually I have pjirc
[11:17] <menuhin> in am using irssi
[11:17] <Kardoso> ok. is irssi good?
[11:17] <menuhin> cool on the windows desktop too
[11:17] <Kardoso> where can i download it?
[11:18] <menuhin> look at your database
[11:18] <menuhin> apt-cache
[11:18] <Kardoso> ok
[11:18] <Kardoso> sorry I have to go
[11:18] <Kardoso> thanks menuhin i will try irssi
[11:18] <Kardoso> bye
[11:19] <menuhin> bye
[11:19] <Kardoso> have a nice day
[11:31] <repeter> motd/
[11:36] <repeter> can I please get some help in registering?
[11:38] <favro> repeter: type  /msg nickserv register "your password" email address
[11:41] <repeter> thankss favro :)
[11:48] <favro> :)
[12:21] <jarnos_> In the screen launched by Ctrl-Alt-F1 I get repeatedly message "[ nnnn.nnnnnn] sysctl table check failed: /dev/parport/parport0/devices/ppdev0/timeslice  Sysctl already exists" . The digits n vary.
[12:30] <[diablo]> good afternoon #xubuntu
[12:30] <[diablo]> guys, I've setup the livecd on a usb stick
[12:30] <[diablo]> I'm getting DMA timeouts because the box has a CF "drive"
[12:30] <[diablo]> any ideas please?
[13:01] <jarnos_> [diablo]: try without the CF drive.
[13:14] <[diablo]> I need the CF to install to
[13:41] <[diablo]> I'm installing xubuntu via a KVM guest, to the CF card
[13:42] <[diablo]> then will just try booting the  box with the CF card in
[13:42] <[diablo]> and pray
[13:46]  * totalwormage prays with you :P
[13:47]  * [diablo] hopes everyone will pray :D
[14:18] <menuhin> hi i am using netbsd and wanted to have the same takbar panel as xubuntu
[14:18] <menuhin> how can i accomplish that
[14:21] <sebyte> hi all.  im about to free a laptop from Windoze and xubuntu is the way to go.  i can download using bittorrent but which version?  the 'desktop' version or the 'alternate' version.  is the 'alternate' version for laptops etc?
[14:23] <steven_> desktop
[14:23] <steven_> download based on your archtechture
[14:23] <steven_> suck as i368
[14:23] <steven_> 64 bit if it's a 64 comp
[14:24] <sebyte> steven_: architecture, 32/64 of course, but what's the difference btwn dt and alt?
[14:24] <steven_> alt has some text based and command line
[14:24] <steven_> installers
[14:25] <steven_> if you wanna put the cd in and have it be really easy
[14:25] <steven_> go with desktop
[14:25] <sebyte> ah. thnx
[14:26] <steven_> what kind laptop you geT?
[14:26] <steven_> nevermind lol
[14:55] <gnumm> hi
[14:55] <gnumm> is pulseaudio installed on a fresh xubuntu installation?
[14:56] <TheSheep> no
[14:56] <gnumm> (thank you good) :D
[14:57] <steven_> you can add thru respositoies
[14:57] <gnumm> i do not want....no... ;)
[14:58] <steven_> cody! what's up?
[14:58] <steven_> musta just got to the office
[15:23] <n3hima> whenever I plug in my usb pen, the thunar window opens twice, why is this happening?
[15:25] <cody-somerville> Hi steven_ :]
[15:27] <n3hima> ?
[15:38] <cody-somerville> n3hima, I imagine a bug?
[15:42] <n3hima> cody-somerville, it does it with all usb storage devices
[15:48] <steven_> it double mounts the externals?
[15:49] <steven_> hnmmm
[15:51] <n3hima> steven_, no it doesn
[15:51] <n3hima> 't double mount
[15:51] <steven_> it just opens two windows in the file manager?
[15:51] <steven_> hmmm
[15:51] <n3hima> it just opens the window twice
[15:51] <n3hima> yes
[15:51] <steven_> that used to happen to me
[15:51] <steven_> what kernel you using?
[15:51] <n3hima> err
[15:51] <n3hima> 1sec
[15:51] <steven_> k
[15:52] <n3hima> 2.6.24-20-eeepc
[15:52] <n3hima> but it happens with -generic as well
[15:52] <steven_> really?
[15:52] <steven_> you have eee?
[15:52] <n3hima> yes
[15:52] <steven_> lol unrelated
[15:52] <steven_> hmm
[15:52] <steven_> lemme check
[15:52] <n3hima> kk
[15:52] <steven_> brb
[15:54] <steven_> hmm any advice cody-sommerville?
[15:54] <steven_> i can't see anything easy on google
[15:54] <steven_> you know of anything?
[15:55] <mohkohn> I have xubuntu 7.10 installed on eeepc 701 4G but have no nic or wireless.
[15:55] <mohkohn> Is there a way I can download the right packages put them on a usb stick and install on my eeepc?
[15:55] <n3hima> mohkohn, try the array.org kernel
[15:55] <n3hima> mohkohn, ethernet and follow the instructions on the following page...
[15:56] <steven_> array.org?
[15:56] <steven_> not familiar sorry
[15:56] <n3hima> http://wiki.eeeuser.com/getting_ubuntu_8.04_to_work_perfectly
[15:56] <n3hima> http://www.array.org/ubuntu/setup.html
[15:57] <lunartic> how can I get a list of the packages apt-get can install?
[15:57] <lunartic> is there a terminal based browser I can install?
[15:57] <steven_> umm synaptic lists all packages
[15:58] <steven_> i think
[15:58] <lunartic> okm thanks
[15:59] <cody-somerville> steven_, whats the problem? :]
[15:59] <steven_> mounting usb stick
[15:59] <steven_> opening double windows in file manager
[15:59] <cody-somerville> ps ux | cat please
[15:59] <steven_> not my prob it's n3hima
[15:59] <steven_> lol
[15:59] <steven_> i'm trying to help
[15:59] <steven_> brb
[16:00] <n3hima> what was that sorry?
[16:00] <lunartic> steven: does synaptic run from a console as well, because I have no desktop installed at the moment?
[16:01] <n3hima> lunartic, no
[16:01] <lunartic> oops
[16:01] <steven_> umm no
[16:01] <steven_> lol
[16:01] <steven_> it's an X enviro program
[16:01] <n3hima> lunartic, you may want to check out the dpkg man page for installed packages
[16:01] <n3hima> as for installable packages, no idea
[16:02] <mohkohn> lunartic, terminal based browser "sudo aptitude install links"
[16:03] <lunartic> okm links here I come
[16:03] <mohkohn> there is also lynx but from memory links can do frames
[16:06] <lunartic> what package should I install to get the xubuntu desktop; then I can stop asking all these questions here and use synaptic.
[16:08] <lunartic> btw: it didn't seem to find links
[16:08] <n3hima> lunartic, if it didn't find links, you probably want to sudo apt-get update
[16:08] <n3hima> lunartic, and then sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[16:13] <n3hima> works?
[16:14] <lunartic> not really
[16:14] <lunartic> can it have to do that I try to use the intrepid?
[16:14] <n3hima> can it have to... what?
[16:15] <deucey> hi all
[16:15] <n3hima> hi
[16:15] <deucey> i'm having a problem with xfce
[16:15] <deucey> more like a n00bie question
[16:15] <deucey> i recently installed xfce on an old laptop
[16:15] <deucey> and because I wanted a clean and small installation
[16:16] <deucey> i didnt install xubuntu, just xfce, and the only thing missing is a way to install a network printer
[16:16] <n3hima> deucey, so what distro did you install xfce onto?
[16:16] <deucey> but i cannot find an application or smth that can do that
[16:16] <deucey> ubuntu
[16:18] <deucey> anyone got a clue about which package to install or smth? thanks
[16:18] <n3hima> just install xubuntu-desktop, it'
[16:18] <n3hima> s simpler
[16:19] <n3hima> gah, the apostrophe key is so close to my enter key on the eeepc
[16:20] <lunartic> can you connect a wireless keyboard on that eeepc?
[16:20] <deucey> yeah but that will install other applications and due to limited hard disk space and slow connection that isn't quite what i want
[16:20] <deucey> :)
[16:20] <n3hima> lunartic, only if it's usb
[16:21] <deucey> i mean if there isn't any other way to install that, i'll eventually install xubuntu
[16:21] <n3hima> sure
[16:21] <deucey> just wondering if there any workarounds, cause really thats the only thing left to setup
[16:22] <n3hima> if there are, I don't know them
[16:23] <deucey> heh, ok then thanks anyway
[16:25] <lunartic> deucey: do you have cups installed?
[16:26] <deucey> yes
[16:26] <lunartic> cups can help you confige the network printer
[16:27] <deucey> is there a frontend for cups?
[16:27] <lunartic> through your browser
[16:27] <deucey> the "localhost:631" thing?
[16:28] <lunartic> just punch it in in google: they can tell you the port you have to open on your local host
[16:28] <lunartic> yep. that one
[16:28] <lunartic> the paswords they require are the paswords of the root
[16:28] <deucey> yeah i just found it on google, i'll try that
[16:28] <deucey> k
[16:30] <lunartic> how did you install xfceM
[16:31] <lunartic> how did you install xfce?
[16:31] <deucey> me?
[16:31] <lunartic> yes
[16:31] <deucey> sudo apt-get install xfce :P
[16:31] <deucey> i started with ubuntu mini
[16:31] <lunartic> dito
[16:32] <lunartic> I just installed org
[16:32] <lunartic> and I'm trying to get a small desktop now
[16:32] <deucey> nice,
[16:33] <deucey> i just followed some instructions of a friend of mine cause basically the laptop is crap so i just wanted a really clean, small, installation
[16:35] <lunartic> Perhaps I will find more time this evening to look things up.  I have to leave now.
[16:35] <lunartic> thanks for the help
[16:36] <lunartic> see you later
[16:36] <deucey> bye
[16:41] <deucey> thanks everyone for their help, c ya later
[16:42] <cody-somerville> :]
[16:54] <n3hima> anything on the double windows thing
[16:55] <n3hima> ?
[16:56] <cody-somerville> n3hima, You might be running the Thunar daemon twice
[16:56] <n3hima> what process name is that?
[16:57] <n3hima> ps -A | grep -i thunar yields 2 processes
[16:57] <n3hima> is tht bad?
[16:59] <n3hima> cody-somerville, I killed one of them and it fixes the prob, why was the second one starting in the fist place?
[16:59] <cody-somerville> n3hima, I'm not sure. :-(
[17:00] <n3hima> kk 1sec, might have been my session management, brb restart x
[17:06] <n3hima> cody-somerville, I killed the second instance of Thunar and everything worked even after a restart
[17:06] <cody-somerville> :-]
[17:07] <n3hima> thx
[20:40] <lunartic> goodevening.  Is there somebody who can tell me how I'm supposed to tell apt-get to install from the "Universe" sources as well?
[20:45] <TheSheep> lunartic: system->software sources
[20:46] <lunartic> is there also a console approach to that?
[20:47] <lunartic> I need to change it bacause I want to install xfce
[20:48] <TheSheep> edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[20:49] <lunartic> right, thanks
[20:55] <karliz> hello @ all
[20:56] <karliz> can someone tell me how to be a superuser in CLI ?
[20:56] <karliz> what is the password ?
[20:57] <TheSheep> !sudo
[20:57] <TheSheep> !root
[20:59] <karliz> okay thank you
[21:02] <maxamillion> !gksudo
[21:03] <maxamillion> oh ... wow ... i *read* CLI and my brain processed GUI
[21:03] <maxamillion> nvm ... don't mind me
[21:11] <karliz> and also to install a LPR printer driver (brother mfc240c) the sudu command is enough ?
[21:12] <maxamillion> sudo* and yes, it should be ... it will give root-level permissions
[21:12] <karliz> and is it also possible to use for this the "synaptic Package Manager" ?
[21:20] <lunartic> can sombody tell me how I can get the latest linux kernel installed?
[21:20] <lunartic> version 2.6.7-rc3
[21:20] <lunartic> version 2.6.27-rc3 I mean
[21:24] <siggjen> compile it yourself
[21:28] <bytor4232> lunartic: First, download the kernel source
[21:28] <bytor4232> lunartic: Uncompress it somewhere as root, /usr/src is the traditional location
[21:29] <bytor4232> lunartic: Then, change to that directory
[21:29] <bytor4232> lunartic: Copy the config file from /boot to .config
[21:29] <bytor4232> lunartic: Then run:  make oldconfig
[21:29] <bytor4232> lunartic: I usually hit enter when prompted
[21:30] <bytor4232> lunartic: Then, run:  make dep clean bzImage modules
[21:31] <bytor4232> lunartic: When thats done, run make modules_install
[21:32] <bytor4232> Then copy the kernel:  cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage to /boot/vmlinuz-<version>
[21:33] <bytor4232> lunartic: Then add the kernel to /boot/grub/menu.1st
[21:34] <bytor4232> Thats the old school way.  Not sure the "buntu" way of doing it.
[21:34] <lunartic> I will give it a try though, thanks
[21:35] <bytor4232> lunartic: Look how the directory is layed out in /boot, you'll want to stay that way.  Oh, and copy the System.map to /etc/System.map-<version>
[21:35] <bytor4232> lunartic: And copy the config to /boot
[21:39] <newbiew> hi, i just install xubuntu
[21:39] <newbiew> and i download the tar for flash to watch youtube
[21:40] <bytor4232> congrats!  Welcome to the wonderful world of efficient and lightweight computing.
[21:40] <bytor4232> What version of xubuntu did you install?
[21:40] <newbiew> i extract it.. and flashplayer-installer come with a lock
[21:40] <newbiew> i cant install it
[21:40] <newbiew> 8.04
[21:41] <bytor4232> You don't have to mess with that adobe stuff
[21:41] <bytor4232> just run:  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[21:41] <newbiew> much better
[21:42] <newbiew> this is going to be a challenge
[21:42] <newbiew> using xubuntu on a macbook
[21:42] <newbiew> nothing works but by time pass i will improve it
[21:42] <bytor4232> zoom zoom zoom
[21:43] <bytor4232> newbiew: Sometimes you have to wrench on the stuff.  You'll get there.
[21:43] <newbiew> yeah
[21:43] <newbiew> sound does not work
[21:43] <newbiew> wifi as well
[21:43] <newbiew> but i found a tutorial
[21:43] <bytor4232> When I installed 7.10 on my Acer Aspire, nothing worked.  I reinstalled with 8.04, it took right off.
[21:43] <newbiew> i will work on it
[21:43] <newbiew> cool
[21:44] <bytor4232> ubuntuforums.org is a great place to get wider support for Xubuntu.  I'm a whitebox pc kinda guy myself.
[21:44] <newbiew> basically the difference between ubuntu and xubunt its.. xfce vs gnome and mousepad vs gedit
[21:44] <newbiew> isnt?
[21:44] <bytor4232> I won't be much help with xubuntu on macbook.
[21:44] <bytor4232> Superfically, yes.
[21:44] <bytor4232> XFCE uses less than half the resources of GNOME, so it runs much much faster.
[21:45] <newbiew> oh by the way.. if you have 4gb of ram
[21:45] <newbiew> what would you get for swap
[21:45] <newbiew> honestly
[21:45] <bytor4232> I would do 2gb.  You don't need much more.
[21:45] <newbiew> actually im surprised.. its running much faster than leopard
[21:45] <bytor4232> Xubuntu may never swap out to it, neither will GNOME.
[21:45] <newbiew> and it buuts in just 25 seconds
[21:45] <newbiew> i was surprised
[21:45] <bytor4232> 25 secs!!
[21:46] <bytor4232> cody-somerville: Did you see that?!?!
[21:46] <newbiew> boots*
[21:46] <bytor4232> Core2Duos own.
[21:46]  * bytor4232 is stuck with Pentium D's.
[21:46] <newbiew> yeah i swear god
[21:46] <newbiew> with duo 2.. 2.4ghz
[21:46] <newbiew> 4gb ram and
[21:46] <bytor4232> gg
[21:46] <newbiew> 64 bit edition
[21:47]  * bytor4232 thinks newbiew is one lucky Xubuntu user
[21:47] <newbiew> haha
[21:47] <bytor4232> newbiew: You can also get support in the #ubuntu channels too
[21:47] <newbiew> thanks
[21:47] <bytor4232> Most of what you need to do to get wifi working is more ubuntu specific.
[21:48] <bytor4232> Xubuntu, Kubuntu, and Ubuntu are all using the same OS, or Distro
[21:48] <bytor4232> Its all "Ubuntu" underneath.
[21:48] <newbiew> yep
[21:48] <bytor4232> Its just Xu installs XFCE instead of GNOME.
[21:48] <newbiew> actually the tutorial is for ubuntu
[21:48] <bytor4232> Which I like much much more.
[21:48] <newbiew> im using it for xubuntu
[21:48] <bytor4232> GNOME is a little heavy for my tastes.
[21:48] <newbiew> well i feel xfce much faster
[21:48] <newbiew> i try ubuntu before
[21:49] <bytor4232> You can also probably get Compiz running on that.  Compiz isn't GNOME specific.  In fact, it runs great on XFCE.
[21:49] <bytor4232> Compiz is that funny little cube thingie
[21:49] <newbiew> yeah i know aboutcompiz. but i feel is just eye candy i didnt found it very functional
[21:50] <bytor4232> And other effects.
[21:50] <bytor4232> Me neither.
[21:50] <newbiew> and it may affect the speed of xfce
[21:50] <newbiew> im not sure
[21:50] <bytor4232> I have it installed and configured when I want to show off
[21:50] <bytor4232> Just have to run compiz --replace to bring it up.
[21:50] <newbiew> cool
[21:50] <bytor4232> But yeah, I don't find it very useful.  In fact, i find it a little distracting.
[21:50] <newbiew> first my sound.. then wifi.. brightness
[21:50] <bytor4232> Plus, XFCE is a lot more configurable than GNOME you'll find.
[21:51] <newbiew> then.. the maybe more difficult part
[21:51] <newbiew> keyboard and mouse
[21:51] <newbiew> bluetooth
[21:51] <bytor4232> Good luck!
[21:51] <bytor4232> Sounds like a fun project.
[21:51] <newbiew> maybe lol
[21:52] <bytor4232> Thats what I like most about Linux.  I have Xubuntu running on three desktops that I'm sitting around, one is more a server.  Plus its running on three laptops and a media center.  I'm about to replace the ubuntu install in the living room terminal with Xubuntu.  Its running Ubuntu Gutsy.
[21:53] <bytor4232> But all my hardware is old.  I pick them up on the cheap.
[21:53] <newbiew> cool
[21:53] <newbiew> what i need is open office of course
[21:53] <newbiew> i will install it
[21:53] <bytor4232> I'm not a fan of Abiword and Gnumeric.
[21:53] <newbiew> do you recommend me to use synaptic or terminal
[21:53] <newbiew> to install it
[21:53] <bytor4232> I removed them first thing usually, and install openoffice.org-writer and openoffice.org-calc
[21:54] <bytor4232> ah
[21:54] <bytor4232> both will do the trick.
[21:54] <newbiew> i want all openoffice apps
[21:54] <newbiew> not just cal or writer
[21:54] <newbiew> ok
[21:54] <bytor4232> indeed.  I only use the writer and calc.
[22:44] <newbiew_> hi
[22:44] <newbiew_> i really dont like mousepad.. how can i use gedit under xubuntu
[22:45] <newbiew_> i think it was the same.. i fallow tutorials.. instead of gedit i just add mousepad
[22:45] <newbiew_> but some do not work the same
[22:45] <newbiew_> i just need gedit but im happy with xfce
[22:45] <wbmj> newbiew: sudo apt-get install gedit
[22:45] <danopia_> hi
[22:45] <newbiew_> yeah but its the installation enough?
[22:46] <newbiew_> how can i indicate to use gedit instead of mousepad
[22:46] <danopia_> i installed a nvidia driver and now when i try booting it says "too much work for irq17" and x won't start
[22:46] <danopia_> atm i'm getting flooded with that message and can't see my irssi
[22:47] <newbiew_> what im going to do is to uninstall mousepad
[22:47] <newbiew_> is that a bad idea?
[22:47] <danopia_> yay it stopped
[22:47]  * danopia_ redraws
[22:48] <wbmj> newbiew: sudo update-alternatives --config gedit
[22:48] <danopia_> so any ideas?
[22:49] <newbiew_> wbmj i alraedy install gedit
[22:49] <newbiew_> do i need that anyway?
[22:49] <newbiew_> i will remove mousepad ok?
[22:49] <newbiew_> i use apt-get install gedit
[22:49] <newbiew_> now im going to use the update-alternatives
[22:49] <newbiew_> and then i will remove mousepad
[22:50] <newbiew_> is this ok?
[22:50] <wbmj> newbiew: sudo apt-get install gedit....should let you set gedit as default editor
[22:50] <newbiew_> yeah but what happen if i remove mousepad
[22:50] <wbmj> newbiew: sudo update-alternatives --config gedit...oops should let yuo set gedit as default
[22:50] <newbiew_> nothing bad?
[22:50] <wbmj> no
[22:51] <newbiew_> ok well i use apt-get install gedit
[22:51] <newbiew_> do i need the update-alternatives anyway?
[22:51] <zoredache> yes
[22:51] <wbmj> yes
[22:51] <newbiew_> this appears
[22:51] <newbiew_> no alternatives for gedit
[22:51] <newbiew_> :S
[22:53] <wbmj> you should be all set....if you want to remove mousepad it really won't make a difference
[22:53] <newbiew_> yes some mb less
[22:53] <newbiew_> for my hd
[22:53] <newbiew_> lol
[22:54] <zoredache> 1/10 of a MB
[23:37] <jmhealey> hello all
[23:37] <zoredache> hello
[23:38] <jmhealey> slow channel?
[23:38] <zoredache> yes
[23:39] <bytor4232> It can be.
[23:39] <jmhealey> ok
[23:39] <bytor4232> most of us idle, and check on the channel once in a while.
[23:39] <jmhealey> i see.  well, xubuntu keeps coming back as my favorite distro
[23:41] <bytor4232> Lean, mean, efficient, customizable, fast.  Whats not to love ;)
[23:41] <bytor4232> Backing of the most popular distro around, ubuntu.
[23:43] <jmhealey> well said
[23:55] <jmhealey> anyone upgraded the xfce component of 8.10 to the later version?