[00:02] <coreymon77> Jammu: hey
[00:02] <Jammu> hi
[00:02] <coreymon77> stuff working yet?
[00:02] <Jammu> well
[00:02] <coreymon77> what?
[00:02] <Jammu> i still need some advice
[00:03] <coreymon77> what
[00:03] <coreymon77> still cant connect to your network?
[00:03] <Jammu> my wired is roaming what about the wireless?
[00:04] <coreymon77> what do you mean?
[00:04] <coreymon77> is the wireless working now?
[00:05] <coreymon77> Jammu: are you able to connect to your network now?
[00:06] <Jammu> just a moment
[00:06] <Jammu> file:///home/portal/Desktop/Screenshot.png
[00:07] <Jammu> how do u send a photo?
[00:08] <Jammu> 77 take the pic plz
[00:11] <coreymon77> Jammu: put the picture up on www.imageshack.us
[00:11] <devilmanx> hi
[00:11] <coreymon77> Jammu: actually no
[00:11] <coreymon77> Jammu: just send it to coreymon
[00:11] <coreymon> Jammu: send it here
[00:13] <coreymon> Jammu: you know what, put it on imageshack
[00:14] <Denise> maybe I should download lionessplugin-nonfree?
[00:14] <coreymon> Jammu: file transfer is not going to work
[00:14] <coreymon> Jammu: go to www.imageshack.us and upload it to that site
[00:15] <coreymon> Jammu: then give me the link to it
[00:15] <coreymon> Jammu: type iwconfig into terminal and tell me what is there
[00:16] <coreymon> Jammu: is there just eth0 and lo still
[00:16] <coreymon> Jammu: or has something else appeared
[00:18] <coreymon> Jammu: im sorry, i have to go for a bit (have to go eat), ill be back in a bit, sorry about this, stay here and i will be back eventually
[00:22] <Jampero> jammu is jampero
[00:23] <Jampero> corey did u get it?
[00:24] <Jampero> COREYMON I LOVE U <3
[00:27] <cody_> Hey, quick question about KDE, the other day I shut my computer down with some applications running, then when I turned the computer back on, those applications opened up automatically. After the first time i thought no big deal, but now every time I boot back up those same applications load up (firefox, two xterminal, and a bus route opened by kpdf). Any suggestions to get rid of this?
[00:28] <cody_> ....it's  stupid problem but it is driving me crazy
[00:29] <Jampero> try SYSTEM PREFERENCES SESSIONS
[00:30] <flaccid> Jampero: stop shouting
[00:30] <Jampero> ok sorry
[00:30] <flaccid> cody_: turn off sessions in system prefs
[00:30] <Jampero> im new
[00:30] <flaccid> which is what Jampero suggested :)
[00:31] <Jampero> lol
[00:31] <Jampero> im just so happy
[00:31] <Jampero> i got my wireles up and running
[00:32] <cody_> flaccid: Thanks
[00:32] <flaccid> nice
[00:33] <coreymon> Jampero: wait a sec, it worked?
[00:34] <Jampero> yes
[00:34] <Jampero> i love u
[00:34] <coreymon77> okay
[00:34] <coreymon77> one last thing though
[00:34] <Jampero> ???
[00:34] <coreymon77> whenever you do a kernel update
[00:34] <coreymon77> you have to repeat a couple of steps
[00:34] <coreymon77> so keep those files you downloaded
[00:35] <vilhelm> Hello! anyone know why my harddisk dissapear from Media Dolphin?
[00:35] <coreymon77> and whenever you do a kernel update, do this
[00:35] <coreymon> cd ~/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6
[00:35] <coreymon> make clean
[00:35] <flaccid> please try to keep responses on 1 line
[00:35] <coreymon> sudo make install
[00:35] <coreymon> then reboot and it will work
[00:35] <coreymon> okay?
[00:35] <Jampero> ok
[00:36] <coreymon77> write that down somehwere
[00:36] <coreymon77> and remember, dont delete those files
[00:36] <coreymon77> now i gotta go
[00:36] <coreymon77> bye
[00:36] <Jampero> if u are ever in finland the home of linux i will buy u a cheesburger
[00:37] <flaccid> !enter
[00:37] <Jampero> bye and thank u
[00:37] <vilhelm> :D jampero you can buy me a cheese burger D
[00:37] <vilhelm> :P
[00:38] <Jampero> ok where are u?
 turku :P
[00:38] <Jampero> aijaa
[00:39] <vilhelm> Hello! anyone know why my harddisk dissapear from Media Dolphin?
[00:39] <Jampero> mun nainen on sielt
[00:39] <vilhelm> ok :P
[00:39] <Jampero> eiks linux syntyny suomes?
[00:40] <vilhelm> joo
[00:40] <Jampero> linus torvaulds
[00:40] <flaccid> english only channel
[00:40] <vilhelm> torvalds"> :D
[00:40] <Jampero> or something
 can u help me
[00:40] <flaccid> !u | vilhelm just ask the channel
[00:41] <vilhelm> sometimes my harddisks disspear from media dolphin but i can see them in root
[00:41] <flaccid> vilhelm: yeah no need to repeat. if someone can help you they would of. you can also submit a bug
[00:44] <roby> @join #ravenna
[00:44] <roby> #join ravenna
[00:44] <roby> #join #ravenna
[00:48] <Agent_bob> howto open new tab in kde terminal emulator ?
[00:53] <Agent_bob> ?
[00:54] <flaccid> Agent_bob: which one
[00:54] <Agent_bob> ?
[00:55] <flaccid> which terminal emulator
[00:55] <Agent_bob> yaquake / konsole
[00:55] <Agent_bob> are there others ?
[00:55] <flaccid> i think so
[00:55] <flaccid> ctrl + shift + n
[00:56] <Agent_bob> hmmm thate would require khotkeys ?
[00:56] <flaccid> its in Configure Shortcuts in the dropdown like most progs
[00:56] <flaccid> negative
[00:56] <shadowhywind_> This is a strange question, but what package is modprobe in?
[00:57] <Agent_bob> shadowhywind_ grep `which modprobe` /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list*
[00:58] <shadowhywind_> Agent_bob: sweet thanks
[00:58] <Agent_bob> shadowhywind_ should work for any existing file installed from dpkg
[00:58] <Agent_bob> welcome
[00:59] <shadowhywind_> Agent_bob: you wouldn't know anything about Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0) would you?
[00:59] <Agent_bob> flaccid where would this dropdown be found ?
[01:00] <flaccid> its like in bottom right corner... the menu thing
[01:01] <Agent_bob> shadowhywind_ yep.   error in the initramfs.img file  (maybe called initrd.img.*)    if propperly rebuilt it should fix that error.     "unless" it's an actual disk/fs error.  which is not very likely unless you hosed it.
[01:02] <shadowhywind_> Agent_bob: would that also cause a udevd-event[]: run programs: '/sbin/modprobe/' abnormal exit on boot as well?
[01:02] <shadowhywind_> Agent_bob: how would one go about rebuidling initramfs?
[01:02] <Agent_bob> flaccid ah i see it.  it was set to shift up-arrow   kewl  ;)
[01:04] <flaccid> cool
[01:06] <Agent_bob> shadowhywind_ normally, boot an older version of the kernel. and correct any bad configs that might have caused it.  *because i probably configured something in /etc/mkinitramfs/ that caused it) set Q to the version i was working on and run; sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initramfs.img-$Q $Q
[01:06] <shadowhywind_> Well thats the thing, I have gone back like 6 versions and still running into the issue
[01:07] <Agent_bob> shadowhywind_ another however might run   update-initramfs   :)
[01:07] <shadowhywind_> Agent_bob: ok will run that and give that a try
[01:07] <Agent_bob> shadowhywind_ then assume option 2   "unless... ^"
[01:08] <Agent_bob> i.e.  if all versions are hosed it's not the initramfs image it's the fs
[01:08] <shadowhywind_> which means harddrive failing or reinstall ?
[01:12] <Agent_bob> shadowhywind_ possable causes.   bios change.  (re ordering of disks in bios will confuse grub)    fs superblock corrupt (boot a live cd and fsck the unmounted fs)     partition table borked (if dual booting blame the other OS  and run "testdisk" from a live CD)    actual hardware issue (falls under the heading of "get an expert to look at it"  even if the expert is you.)
[01:13] <shadowhywind_> i like the fs superblock corrupt better.. hehe
[01:13] <Agent_bob> shadowhywind_ normally i don't like that option.   but it is better than hardware fail  ;/
[01:14] <shadowhywind_> yah
[01:14] <shadowhywind_> since fsck is an easy thing to do, is there any special flags i should use other then fsck /dev/sda5
[01:15] <Agent_bob> i would have it do a no-write test first   just to see what it says.   then go from there.
[01:16] <Agent_bob> man e2fsck  says that switch is called -n    fyi
[01:17] <shadowhywind_> thanks i was just reading the man
[01:19] <selig5> How do I disable kde4 desktop effects? I enable them and now the screen is black.
[01:20] <selig5> ...from the command line...
[01:20] <jshewey> I need to re-partition a hard drive, but I need extremely specific measurements of size and location of the beginning and end of the partition. What tools (besides parted) can I use for this? Measurements are in sectors.
[01:22] <Denise> use a tape
[01:22] <flaccid_> selig5: wrong chan see topic
[01:22] <flaccid_> jshewey: fdisk
[01:23] <Denise> or u can use a good rule
[01:23] <Denise> in centimeters
[01:23] <selig5> ok, I'll try #kde.
[01:23] <flaccid_> selig5: #kubuntu-kde4
[01:23] <flaccid_> and kde chan is good too for that question selig5 sorry
[01:24] <selig5> flaccid_: thanks
[01:24] <flaccid_> np
[01:25] <jshewey> flaccid_: how can I specify measurements in sectors in fdisk?
[01:26] <Makuseru> !flash
[01:27] <flaccid_> jshewey: what is a measurement ? what do you mean?
[01:27] <flaccid_> brb
[01:27] <bdizzle> what the hell is going on with my firefox?
[01:28] <bdizzle> I just uninstalled it, and then suddenly it decides to start up (and freeze up as usual lately)
[01:28] <cody> is there a way to change where apt-get install installs programs? I am running out of space on my root directory and I would like the new default directory  to be on my home drive. Is this possible?
[01:28] <cody> home directory*
[01:30] <ubuntu_> Agent_bob: you still around?
[01:31] <Agent_bob> cody you could move some of the load to home thusly.  ( mv /usr/share /home/.share ;ln -s /usr/share /home/.share )
[01:31] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ for about 2 minutes maybe.
[01:31] <Agent_bob> what ya need ?
[01:32] <ubuntu_> Agent_bob: trying to run fsck it keeps coming up with the superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext 2 filesystem
[01:32] <ubuntu_> it should be a ext3
[01:32] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ ok.   sudo fdisk -l    see if the address is correct
[01:32] <jshewey> flaccid_: I need a partition to start at sector 353177352 of the hard disk. I needs to be 8247707 sectors long, so it needs to end at sector 361425059. This is what I mean. I need a partitioner that can do that.
[01:33] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ also note that ext3 is ext2 + journal file.
[01:33] <ubuntu_> Agent_bob: also i am an idiot that can't read.. lol i did /dev/sa5
[01:33] <cody> Agent_bob: Where then would the install directory be? i.e. if I run apt-get install firefox-3.0, is this still going to be installed in /usr/lib or will it be somehwere else?
[01:33] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_  any ext3 fs can be mounted ext2.
[01:34] <Agent_bob> cody  there is no   "install directory"   other than /    you are probably thinking in M$ windarz terms.
[01:34] <ubuntu_> oh sdang! it didn't change my name.. hehe (this is shadowhywind btw)
[01:35] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_ yes i know who you are.     i didn't kow that you couldn't read however   :)
[01:35] <ubuntu_> hehe
[01:35] <ubuntu_> also just ran fsck and i got /dev/sda5: clean, 514837/2833600 files, 4895599/5703067 blocks (check in 4 mounts)
[01:36] <ubuntu_> so you also mentioned something about testboot or something like that?
[01:38] <Agent_bob> ubuntu_   ok.  sujest you mount that fs on /mnt   and check /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst  and device* in the same dir     then maybe reinstall grub thusly    sudo install-grub -d /mnt /dev/sd?#      translating the device name correctly.     i have to go now.   good luck with it, and someone can help if you have more issues.
[01:38] <cody> Agent_bob: Fair enough, but I don't want any more applications to go under / , I want them to go under /home because i have my harddisk partitioned such that I only have 4GB for / and 16 GB for my home
[01:38] <ubuntu_> thanks for all the help so far
[01:38] <dagoblin> i cant log on on to any other irc servers, any help? thanks
[01:39] <dagoblin> am usign  xchat
[01:39] <dagoblin> an Koversation
[01:40] <Denise> lol
[01:40] <dagoblin> :(
[01:42] <Denise> try irssi
[01:43] <Denise> or if no one works try 911
[01:43] <flaccid_> jshewey: fdisk can do that
[01:46] <flaccid_> jshewey: something like this will help http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/3174/6/
[01:48] <flaccid_> ubuntu_: tried disks & filesystems in system settings?
[01:48] <ubuntu_> flaccid_: for what?
[01:48] <flaccid_> ubuntu_: are you trying to mount a fs or something?
[01:49] <ubuntu_> no i keep getting kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount rootfs on unknown-block(0,0) on bootup like 3out of 6 times
[01:50] <flaccid_> oh that sorry
[01:50] <ubuntu_> and then i get a udevd-event[####]: run programs: '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit 2 out of 6 times
[01:50] <flaccid_> lots of results on google
[01:51] <ubuntu_> yah but so far nothing useful
[01:51] <flaccid_> hardy?
[01:51] <ubuntu_> yah
[01:52] <flaccid_> i386 or 64?
[01:52] <ubuntu_> i have a funny feeling a bunch of packages got courrpted, and I am slowly finding out about that one by one, and reinstall them..
[01:52] <ubuntu_> 64 bit
[01:52] <ubuntu_> dual core if it helps any
[01:52] <flaccid_> you run amd64 on intel dual core?
[01:53] <ubuntu_> is that on supposed to be an or? hehe i have amd64
[01:53] <Nutzebahn> Hello. I am now in Kubuntu with KDE4 and want to install GNOME, but I am getting error messages and I couldn't install it, how do I?
[01:53] <flaccid_> ok
[01:53] <flaccid_> ubuntu_: so you cannot boot from any of the grub entries?
[01:54] <ubuntu_> Nutzebahn: whats the error (if it short enough to  post)
[01:54] <flaccid_> !kde4 | Nutzebahn
[01:54] <flaccid_> !gnome | Nutzebahn
[01:54] <ubuntu_> flaccid_: I can boot from all the entries, but they all will give me the issues.. if i have enough patients and reboot enough i can boot into em
[01:54] <flaccid_> Nutzebahn: install ubuntu-desktop package for gnome, show errors if you have
[01:55] <flaccid_> hmm try reporting/searching bugs i guess
[01:55] <Nutzebahn> It said that it needed to install gnome-desktop-environment, but it would not install it, and said that that depended on other things.
[01:55] <Nutzebahn> Thank you.
[01:55] <flaccid_> ubuntu_: maybe sudo update-initramfs -u
[01:55] <Nutzebahn> I'm not happy with KDE4.
[01:55] <Nutzebahn> How do I change my video settings?
[01:56] <flaccid_> and make sure initramfs-tools is latest
[01:56] <flaccid_> Nutzebahn: this is not the place for kde4 help.
[01:56] <Nutzebahn> The graphics are looking a little mediocre and how can I change the settings?
[01:56] <Nutzebahn> Ok.
[01:56] <flaccid_> read up^
[01:56] <Nutzebahn> :'(
[01:56] <ubuntu_> flaccid_: give me one sec, going to reboot back to normal mode (on live cd at the moment)
[01:56] <flaccid_> k
[02:03] <shadowhywind_> hehe that was a fun expereince again.. 4 kernel panics 1 abnormal exit...
[02:07] <shadowhywind_> instead of running update-initramfs -u what if i used -n to create a entire new one? any issues you could forsee?
[02:07] <flaccid> um not sure but yeah
[02:09] <shadowhywind_> well to create a new it needed a version so i went to update and it came up with a warning of cryptsetup: WARNING: found more than one resume device candidate: /dev/sda6
[02:10] <shadowhywind_> which is odd, since /dev/sda6 is my swap partition
[02:17] <Daisuke_Laptop> erm...  if you hibernate, that's where it puts the resume image, i would imagine
[02:18] <shadowhywind_> but it found more then one resume device which is kind of odd
[02:20] <shadowhywind_> oh thats, odd. Its saying that /dev/sda6 and a UUID= are more then one resume device candidate.. but they are both of my swap drive..
[02:20] <Daisuke_Laptop> that would definitely explain it
[02:21] <shadowhywind_> now just to find the files to change to /dev/sda6 to eliminate that warning.. and hopefully that might take care of my issues
[02:41] <smarty> hey : how can i view network folders? like in windows you can go through network places... how in kubuntu? (i tried Network>Samba and Add a network folder, but no luck accessing a shared folder)
[02:44] <vilhelm> Hello! I have a partition which filesystem is NTFS and i cant delete any files from the partition :(
[02:44] <smarty> Are you saying that the Kubuntu parition is NTFS?!
 no ...
 the kubuntu filesystem is ext2
[02:45] <smarty> Another OS?
[02:45] <smarty> Ok, good.
 but i cant seem to delete files from the partition
 do you know howcome?
[02:46] <smarty> Are you dual booted? (im trying to understand your setup)
 yes i am I use Kubuntu and Windows XP
[02:46] <smarty> And you are trying to delete from the XP parition
[02:46] <smarty> ?
 I have 4 partitions of the hardisk that i have windows xp on.. the files that I want to delete are not on the same partiotion as my XP installation is
[02:51] <bdizzle> hold on, what are you doing?
[02:51] <bdizzle> I might have done this type of thing before
[02:51] <bdizzle> is the NTFS partition mounted in Kubuntu?
 yes it is mounted
[02:52] <bdizzle> okay, then from command line, cd /media/
[02:52] <bdizzle> ls to see what the "folder" is that contains the partition
[02:52] <bdizzle> cd into it
[02:52] <bdizzle> find the file you want to delete
[02:52] <bdizzle> then rm <filename> as usual
 yes but why cant i do this through media dolphin?
[02:54] <flaccid> whats the error
[02:54] <bdizzle> you should be able to wihtout having to open it as root
[02:54] <bdizzle> flaccid: my awesome person!
[02:54] <flaccid> i just got mumble server and client going heh
[02:54] <flaccid> sup
[02:55] <bdizzle> um, did something just crash?
 my kubuntu is not in english but it said someting like could not remove file
[02:56] <flaccid> check permissions and also how it is mounted in mount and or fstab
[02:56] <flaccid> if its ntfs there is no perms on the files so its solely how its mounted
[02:56] <illmortal> I have a simple yet silly question... is there such thing as a AGP x8 or PCI (non express) pushing 512mb?
[02:57] <flaccid> illmortal: try google or ##hardware
[03:00] <Dragnslcr> illmortal- Newegg says yes
[03:02] <illmortal> hm... newegg only shows pci express =\
[03:02] <illmortal> need to do a better search i guess.
[03:12] <shadowhywind_> sweet!!!! i have no clue what i did or what combination that i did.. but my problems seam to be solved for the moment
[03:12] <shadowhywind_> 4 back to back reboots and no issues
[03:20] <edmas> #brasil
[03:22] <mr---t-> !br
[03:22] <Reformer81> shadowhywind_: It's amazing how my Ubuntu does that too.  I'll have an issue for 2 months and suddenly notice it's gone... without even updating anything.  Go figure :)
[03:24] <shadowhywind_> Reformer81: yah, well i did do a lot of things trying to get rid of it update-initiramfs/update grub/fsck/boot options.. something worked.. hehe thats all i care about
[03:29] <corey> has anybody else had issues with FF3 under KDE3 not showing checkboxes selected?
[03:29] <mr---t-> yes
[03:30] <corey> for that matter, not seeing parts of pages rendered properly
[03:30] <corey> I noticed there was a bug report submitted
[03:30] <corey> but no definate fix
[03:32] <mr---t-> change your gtk styles and it will go away
[03:33] <corey> I tried installing the gtk2-engines-qtcurve package, what else is needed?
[03:34] <mr---t-> system settings>appearance>gtkstyles and fonts > raleigh worked for me
[03:36] <corey> is a restart needed for this?
[03:36] <mr---t-> before that I just clicked once in the box and once out of the box and that also worked as a quick fix
[03:36] <mr---t-> restart FF yes
[03:37] <corey> cool the raleigh style appears to be working
[03:38] <mr---t-> yay
[03:38] <corey> thanks
[03:38] <mr---t-> np
[03:39] <corey> frustrating when Windows versions work fine but Linux versions dont
[03:39] <corey> of the same software I mean
[03:39] <mr---t-> thanks to ignoramis who showed me
[03:39] <mr---t-> I,ve gotten everything working one way or another
[03:40] <mr---t-> sometime I need to emulate with wine but it works
[03:40] <corey> indeed
[03:41] <corey> im trying to see if I can avoid using windows apps at all
[03:41] <mr---t-> I have , except I'm a mcdst
[03:42] <corey> heh, well kinda stuck then ;)
[03:42] <mr---t-> yeah
[03:42] <corey> Ive been a Windows guy since 3.0
[03:42] <corey> its still my primary gaming platform of choice
[03:42] <mr---t-> but all my personal stuff is linux
[03:43] <mr---t-> imo linux is the future
[03:43] <corey> ive reached a point where I have become bored with Windows, so I have been trying different Linux distros
[03:44] <mn_> hmm me too
[03:44] <corey> I was running openSUSE for awhile before Kubuntu
[03:44] <corey> im liking Kubuntu alot better
[03:45] <mn_> really?
[03:45] <mr---t-> this is getting a bit off topic , I tried dsl,feesb,suse,freespire,ubuntu,kubuntu and a couple others
[03:45] <mr---t-> kubuntu is my favorite also
[03:45] <mn_> Ive got Kubuntu on Live cd and like it.  Ill install on my laptop when it comes in
[03:45] <mn_> cool.  it looks like i made the right choice then
[03:45] <mr---t-> runs faster from the HD
[03:46] <corey> alot
[03:46] <mn_> yeah I would hope so
[03:46] <mn_> you guys use swap files or partitions?
[03:46] <mr---t-> I dual boot
[03:47] <corey> I wiped the drive and used the entire partition
[03:47] <mn_> no swap space then?
[03:47] <corey> I have alot of extra laptops though, plenty of playgrounds
[03:47] <mr---t-> I still need windblows for my certs
[03:48] <mr---t-> I got into linux when I used it to rescue some files from a crashed windblows system
[03:48] <corey> I just let the Kubuntu installer config the partitions when installing
[03:48] <corey> heh, yeah we do that at work alot
[03:48] <mn_> how did you crash the Win system?
[03:48] <mn_> Kubuntu will configure it's own swap space?
[03:48] <mr---t-> downloaded a virus scanner from my isp
[03:49] <corey> yes, otherwise you can manually assign it
[03:49] <mn_> why did a scanner crash it?
[03:49] <mr---t-> yes but windows must be installed first to dual boot
[03:49] <corey> ahh yes, sorry
[03:50] <mr---t-> did somthing at the root level
[03:50] <mn_> yeah, Ill just give 40 GB to Win and 40 GB to linux (just 2 partitions) and let linux take care of the swap
[03:50] <mn_> oh
[03:51] <corey> when you dualboot a win/kubuntu drive, which boot loader do you use, the GRUB/LILO or NTLDR?
[03:51] <mr---t-> grub
[03:52] <mn_> GRUB comes with the install from livecd right?
[03:52] <mr---t-> yes
[03:53] <corey> yes, lilo is also available if you want
[03:53] <corey> if i remember right
[03:54] <flaccid> grub is fine
[03:55] <mr---t-> just remember to install windows first, grub will let you make new partitions and a bootable dual boot menu
[03:55] <mn_> will the ext* file systems not fragment???
[03:56] <flaccid> mn_: negative
[03:56] <mn_> I thought they would
[03:57] <mr---t-> linux is not really known to have fragmentation problems
[03:58] <mn_> so it doesn't frag anywhere near as badly as Windows?
[03:58] <mr---t-> no
[03:59] <mr---t-> flaccid could tell you better than I but i think it has to do with better code
[03:59] <Theend> ext3 will automatically try to write new file fragments close to the existing ones - I think
[03:59] <mn_> does windows frag because of the file sys it utilizes (fat*/NTFS) or because of the way its written?
[04:00] <flaccid> google tells all
[04:00] <flaccid> !offtopic
[04:08] <kathy> hello
[04:09] <mr---t-> !hi
[04:09] <kathy> Can anyone tell me if there is a program like frontpage for linux I can use publish websites or is there something better?
[04:09] <mn_> OOo probably has something
[04:09] <mn_> Have you looked around in add/remove?
[04:10] <kathy> yes but not finding anything understandable.
[04:11] <flaccid> !info quanta | kathy
[04:11] <flaccid> !info bluefish | kathy
[04:11] <flaccid> !info kompozer
[04:12] <genii> !botabuse
[04:13] <genii> ;)
[04:13] <kathy> thanks ubottu
[04:13] <flaccid> !joke
[04:13] <flaccid> :O
[04:13] <corey> hah
[04:14] <genii> flaccid: Just razzin ya
[04:14] <flaccid> same
[04:15]  * flaccid puts on coffee
[04:15] <genii> Any outstanding questions no one is getting help with?
[04:15] <genii> flaccid: Yay, coffee!
[04:16] <flaccid> um i think its goin alright. yeah this is a coffee bag, they are pretty good
[04:17] <corey> Im currious if the problems that I mentioned before with FF3 are because of FF or because of Kubuntu?
[04:20] <genii> corey: I arrived after your problem had been presented. What is it?
[04:24] <mr---t-> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gtk-qt-engine-kde4/+bug/212457
[04:26] <mr---t-> thats it^
[04:34]  * genii checks to see if the coffee is ready yet
[04:40] <ubuntu> hello
[04:41] <flaccid> !hi
[04:41] <flaccid> my coffee is nice
[04:45] <vikku> hi im trying to install drupal on ubuntu7.04
[04:45]  * mr---t- pours a little khalua in his coffe
[04:46] <vikku> i just did tar -xvvzf drupal......tar.gz
[04:46] <vikku> getting errrors
[04:47] <genii> vikku: Why the hell are you untarring something when you can do: sudo apt-get install drupal5      ?
[04:49] <vikku> well, i dont understand much the diff b/w tar and apt-get
[04:49] <genii> vikku: apt-get is the package install system of debian-based systems like (k)ubuntu. tar is just an extraction/compression program
[04:49] <Daisuke_Laptop> one's a program, one's a file format.
[04:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> vikku: absolute first ubuntu lesson:
[04:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> !repositories
[04:50] <Daisuke_Laptop> !apt
[04:50] <vikku> i have installed the LAMP and iam trying to have the drupal install in my system
[04:50] <vikku> ok
[04:51] <genii> vikku: Always install things by way of package manager when a package for the thing you want is available. Only resort to installing things manually when it is not provided in a package.
[04:51] <vikku> ok genii
[04:51] <vikku> lemme try that
[05:02] <bill> Hello all
[05:03]  * genii hands bill a coffee
[05:04]  * mr---t- hey wheres mine?
[05:06] <reboot08> i pitty the fool
[05:06]  * genii hands mr---t- a large Kubuntu mug of freshly brewed delicious lifegiving coffee
[05:07]  * mr---t- yum
[05:07]  * reboot08 hands mr-t a blunt
[05:08]  * mr---t- passes
[05:11] <reboot08> what is the best way to get a channel list  thats not to large?
[05:13] <reboot08> ok simplest way?
[05:14] <bill> Hello again from western ny
[05:14] <mr---t-> !hi
[05:15] <bill> Everything seems to be working tonight.
[05:16] <bill> Thanks for the coffee genii
[05:16] <genii> bill: Anytime
[05:17] <kayess> What was the name of the channel for discussing intrepid? TIA
[05:17] <Pici> kayess: #ubuntu+1
[05:17] <bill> I love linux..It gives me something to do.
[05:17] <kayess> Ah. I tried ubuntu-1 :)
[05:18] <bill> Hows it working kayess?
[05:19] <kayess> Wifi on my laptop stopped working properly on Tuesday, but I really like it -- don't want to go back to hardy unless I absolutely must
[05:20] <bill> I used Ubuntu for a while. Then went o Kubuntu..It seems more stable.
[05:20] <kayess> I'm using kubuntu on intrepid -- despite what everyone else says, I really like KDE 4
[05:20] <corey> GNOME does have its share of issues
[05:21] <corey> I used KDE4 with openSUSE for awhile, I never really liked it
[05:21] <corey> I still prefer KDE3
[05:22] <bill> I could not get it to work with my video card.
[05:22] <bill> KDE seems to work fine.
[05:23] <corey> well if it works, it works
[05:24] <reboot08> \
[05:28] <reboot08> im new to linux i just installed kde4
[05:29] <robotgeek> reboot08: please see topic. kde4 support in #kubuntu-kde4
[05:31] <eddieftw> if I have a folder, how can i tell how large the folder is using cli?
[05:31] <eddieftw> ~ in particular, but i want to know how many bytes on the HD are being used
[05:31] <flaccid> eddieftw: du
[05:32] <eddieftw> thanks
[05:32] <flaccid> eg. du -h ~
[05:33] <eddieftw> got it, i'll check the man page. i always forget that one. appreciate it
[05:33] <flaccid> actually i meant du -c ~
[05:34] <flaccid> oh -hc is probably what we both want :p
[05:36] <flaccid> ah  du -hcx ~  will exclude stuff mounted in the dir
[05:37] <eddieftw> thanks
[05:37] <coteyr> ok so I am trying to get suspend to ram and suspend to disk working. suspend to ram works but when it comes back i have no usb
[05:38] <coteyr> googeling returned unload and reload usb modules
[05:38] <coteyr> and that did not work
[05:38] <coteyr> can anyone else think of anything else
[05:38] <coteyr> (network comes back fine and ndiswrapper seems to be dependant on usbcore)
[05:39] <coteyr> suspend to disk I figure i will tackel when i get the suspend to ram working
[05:39] <coteyr> also i have (and it's mor of an annoyance) some how lost the nice graphical kubuntu boot progress bar.
[05:39] <coteyr> I am running on stock kernel so not shure how that happens
[05:40] <oobe> does anyone know a good page for info on merging compiz and kde4
[05:41] <oobe> its all working just want to know what i should tweak
[05:41] <flaccid> !enter | coteyr
[05:41] <flaccid> oobe: wrong chan for compiz or kde4
[05:42] <oobe> really ok
[05:42] <oobe> is there a channel you suggest
[05:42] <coteyr> ok so I am trying to get suspend to ram and suspend to disk working. suspend to ram works but when it comes back i have no usb (punction of choice) googeling returned unload and reload usb modules(punction of choice)  and that did not work (punction of choice) can anyone else think of anything else(punction of choice) .... ;)
[05:43] <flaccid> oobe: #compiz-fusion and #kubuntu-kde4
[05:43] <oobe> ty flaccid
[05:43] <flaccid> coteyr: no need to repeat. if someone can't help, they can't help
[05:43] <coteyr> was a smart ass joke thats why I ... and a wink
[06:07] <shaffy> can anyone help?  i'm making a script, however, i need to start a service, but it requires me to be superuser.  how do i perform this in a script?  just put sudo in front of it?
[06:09] <flaccid> the script should be run under root however you might be able to use the su -c command if its supported in ubuntu
[06:09] <genii> It is
[06:11] <shaffy> hmm, okay, i'll get back to you both in a few minutes.  gonna try this out.  thx.
[06:20] <noaXess> good morning.
[06:20] <noaXess> where can i check whats happend, if i press any extra butons on my notebook, like enabling/disabling touchpad?
[06:25] <flaccid> noaXess: xev
[06:26] <noaXess> flaccid: xev?
[06:26] <flaccid> yes
[06:26] <flaccid> try it
[06:29] <keesercc_> anyone know how to turn automounting for a particular usb drive off?
[06:29] <flaccid> for a particular usb disk?
[06:29] <keesercc_> yes
[06:30] <flaccid> not sure if that is possible easily. i'd say it would be with udev rules but i can't say i can give you immediate help. google with udev might help
[06:30] <keesercc_> I have it set up in fstab to mount by uuid to a special location, and I dont want an icon on my desktop giving me access to the drive
[06:30] <flaccid> oh yeah ubuntu has uuid, just use that
[06:30] <flaccid> use the noauto option
[06:30] <keesercc_> in fstab?
[06:31] <flaccid> yep
[06:31] <keesercc_> ok, I will give that a try
[06:31] <flaccid> !ntfs
[06:31] <flaccid> more options for stab there ^^
[06:31] <flaccid> and consider nousers option too
[06:31] <keesercc_> what does nousers do for me?>
[06:32] <flaccid> actually thats the default. it means only root can mount it basically
[06:32] <keesercc_> ok, that sounds good.  I basically want only root to have read write access, and everyone else to be read only
[06:42] <illmortal> does anyone know what I need to download and install in order for mp3s to be played? I need something in order for uShare to transcode them properly.
[06:44] <flaccid> !codec | illmortal
[06:48] <goldmetal> how to close dvdr disc?
[06:49] <flaccid> goldmetal: you might be able to finalise manual in k3b
[06:49] <goldmetal> ok, i will try, flaccid
[07:01] <Jasmin_> erika, hi
[07:01] <Jasmin_> erika, how r u
[07:04] <noaXess> flaccid: with xev the keyboard and mouse will be recorded but not the extra buttons on my notebook..
[07:05] <flaccid> ah well
[07:05] <frybye> hi - I have kde4.1 and am looking for an up-to-date user guide to learn more about it?? At kde.org I only found a "KDE User Guide" dated from 2004 - which has precious little to say about 4.1 of course..?
[07:05] <frybye> - no response to thiss on #kde - seems there is nobody active there just now...
[07:07] <frybye> wenn man die visual effects usw von compiz-fusion benutzen will - was musste die Einstellung in /system/einstellungen/erscheinungsbild/visual-effects sein... ich lese das es "benutzer definiert" sein soll aber finde dort diese Option nicht?
[07:08] <flaccid> frybye: one doesn't exist
[07:08] <flaccid> although im writing one heh
[07:08] <flaccid> !de | frybye
[07:08] <frybye> sorry i was just in the wrong tab.. with the German question...
[07:09] <goldmetal> howto finalize disc with k3b?
[07:09] <flaccid> np
[07:10] <frybye> flaccid - ok looking forward to your guide.. it seems a tiny bit arrogant when the kde developers produce great software but then just assume that "of course everybody knows how to use it!"
[07:10] <noaXess> does anybody now a irc channel name, where racoon and ipsec will be the topic?
[07:13] <flaccid> nah frybye they dev software not write doco unfortunately
[07:14] <binskipy2u> hey guys, is there a KDE 4.1 iso yet?
[07:14] <binskipy2u> instead of installing 4.0.2 and upgrading
[07:14] <binskipy2u> ?
[07:14] <flaccid> nope, there won't be either
[07:14] <flaccid> not for hardy
[07:14] <frybye> right - the same applies to the hardware situation - if the stuff itself was as ropey as some of the manuals - omg... heheh
[07:15] <binskipy2u> anyone here "upgraded" instead of installing 4.1 and having a choice?
[07:15] <binskipy2u> just wondering how it went for anyone that upgraded 4.0.2 to 4.1
[07:16] <flaccid> binskipy2u: wrong chan see topic
[07:17] <genii> There should be #kubuntu-kde4  as default channel to join in irc clients which come with kde4 series
[07:17] <genii> This would prevent a lot of wasted time
[07:18] <flaccid> konv kde3 only doesn't help that
[07:18] <flaccid> and it changes pretty soon with intrepid
[07:22] <dsmith_> any good apps to repalce kmeu
[07:22] <dsmith_> *kmenu?
[07:27] <nihl> umm...
[07:27] <nihl> anybody on
[07:28] <djdarkman> dsmith_: kickoff
[07:29] <nihl> so what is the "kubuntu" channel?
[07:30] <dsmith_> djdarkman: is that what suse uses?
[07:30] <flaccid> nihl: support, read the topic
[07:30] <nihl> thanks
[07:30] <djdarkman> nihl: you come here, ask a question, and if your are lucky, we answere, that is what this channel is about :D
[07:31] <djdarkman> dsmith_: suse started it, but it's a KDE project now, If i'm correct
[07:31] <dsmith_> hmmmm hardy compatible?
[07:31] <dsmith_> seems it is
[07:33] <djdarkman> dsmith_: maybe this will help
[07:33] <djdarkman> http://news.softpedia.com/news/Install-Kickoff-KDE-Menu-in-Kubuntu-Ubuntu-46601.shtml
[07:35] <djdarkman> but personally I`m not a kickoff fan, it`s too big, and useless to me
[07:35] <dsmith_> softpedia hmm
[07:36] <dsmith_>   February 8th, 2007 10:34
[07:36] <dsmith_> way outdated
[07:36] <dsmith_> pass
[07:37] <dsmith_> d/l software for ubuntu from osftpedia, is too much like windows
[07:37] <djdarkman> dsmith_: there is kbfx too, if you want a big menu
[07:38] <djdarkman> KBFX is an alternative to the classical K-Menu button and its menu. It improves the user experience by enabling him to set a bigger (and thus more visible) start button and by finally replacing the Win95-like K-Menu. If you still want the old menu, because you're used to it, it is still available as an option in kbfx. We recommend, however, that you give the Spinx bar a try.
[07:38] <djdarkman> you can install it from the ubuntu repositories
[07:46] <dsmith_> let me check that out
[07:47] <djdarkman> dsmith_: sudo apt-get install kbfx
[07:47] <djdarkman> it`s just hat easy :D
[07:49] <dsmith_> djdarkman: yep, i know :)
[07:49] <dsmith_> i was googling images of the program
[07:49] <djdarkman> dsmith_: it`s themeable
[07:50] <SmokeEater85911> man im bored, I had to come in here just for a chat lol
[07:50] <djdarkman> dsmith_: http://kde-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=62
[07:50] <dsmith_> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KBFX_(KDE)
[07:53] <Standarshy> hi room
[07:53] <Standarshy> <
[07:53] <Standarshy> I'm having trouble upgrading from kde 4.01 to 4.1
[07:54] <Standarshy> I've looked at the instructions but can't edit the sources.list file
[07:54] <djdarkman> Standarshy: delete the configuration files, if there`s nothing important there
[07:54] <arrrghhh> how is klipper intiaited?  i'm getting an error with it on bootup and it never loads, there's no entry for it in .kde/Autostart...
[07:54] <Standarshy> djdarkman, which config files?
[07:54] <djdarkman> arrrghhh: you don`t need to place klipper in the Autostart
[07:54] <djdarkman> Standarshy: ~/.kde4 , but back them up before you delete them
[07:55] <djdarkman> arrrghhh: klipper does not start automaticly?
[07:55] <Standarshy> well, how do I edit the source list?
[07:55] <arrrghhh> djdarkman, it's not.  but it's not starting on its own and i want to figure out why, so i was wondering where it does start from
[07:55] <arrrghhh> djdarkman, like i said, it throws an error every time i login.
[07:56] <SmokeEater85911> anybody solve the hibernate/suspend issues?
[07:56] <djdarkman> arrrghhh: do you have free space in your /var and on your home partition?
[07:56] <djdarkman> SmokeEater85911: on a laptop?
[07:56] <arrrghhh> djdarkman, yessir, plenty
[07:56] <SmokeEater85911> djdarkman: yes
[07:57] <djdarkman> arrrghhh: then open a terminal type klipper, and let`s see what does it have to say
[07:57] <djdarkman> SmokeEater85911: brand? version?
[07:57] <SmokeEater85911> djdarkman: Toshiba Satellite x205
[07:58] <Standarshy> djdarkman, it won't let me edit the source.list file
[07:59] <arrrghhh> djdarkman, lol lemme pastebin the output(s)
[07:59] <BigBuddha> hey guys, i need some help with my fans, they stay running 24/7 now, and the sound is deafening, how can i fix this? preferably cli
[07:59] <djdarkman> SmokeEater85911: found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/188530
[08:00] <djdarkman> Standarshy: how do you want to edit the sources.list? there are quite a few methods
[08:00] <Standarshy> djdarkman, the easist way
[08:00] <arrrghhh> djdarkman, output in terminal: http://pastebin.com/d30eec4d8  and output in kde crash handler: http://pastebin.com/d41d92f42
[08:01] <arrrghhh> Standarshy, the file is /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:01] <SmokeEater85911> djdarkman: there are no replies to it though
[08:01] <Standarshy> arrrghhh, it won't let me edit that file
[08:02] <arrrghhh> Standarshy, does it exist and you're typing it verbatim of what i put?
[08:03] <Standarshy> arrrghhh, i opened it by looking for it by eye. Am I supposed to type that into the terminal to have it open or something?
[08:03] <djdarkman> arrrghhh: does you harddrive or memory have any problems?
[08:03] <arrrghhh> djdarkman, not that i know of!
[08:03] <arrrghhh> Standarshy, how are you trying to open the file?
[08:04] <djdarkman> Standarshy: why do you want to edit the sources.list?
[08:04] <arrrghhh> Standarshy, just type "sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list" into the terminal
[08:05] <djdarkman> arrrghhh: this error means that klipper can`t allocate memory, you can try reinstalling klipper, perhaps there is some misconfiguration
[08:05] <ale22944> Hi all! Does anybody know why my battery with kubuntu last only 1h30' and with winzozz approx 3hrs? Thanks!
[08:05] <Standarshy> djdarkman, I want to edit the file to update to kde 4.1
[08:05] <djdarkman> ale22944: it depends highly on how you use it
[08:05] <Standarshy> but i found someone explaining how to do all this using the adept manager
[08:06] <arrrghhh> Standarshy, then use adept
[08:06] <djdarkman> Standarshy: then arrrghhh said the right thing, you can do it with his method too
[08:06] <arrrghhh> djdarkman, k i'll try purging it and seeing if a reinstall works.  i thought i tried that, but i'll do it again
[08:06] <djdarkman> arrrghhh: then maybe some configuration files are corrupt
[08:07] <Standarshy> djdarkman, I was trying to do it by the instructions on the kubuntu website but I'm too much of a linux noob to understand how to do it
[08:07] <djdarkman> you can check this out by creating a new user, loging in, and see if the problem persists, if it does, that your problem is system level
[08:07] <arrrghhh> djdarkman, well i reinstalled and kept my /home partition so that's likely i'd say...
[08:07] <Standarshy> It didn't mention anything about having to use the terminal
[08:07] <djdarkman> Standarshy: wait a sec I`ll search something for you
[08:08] <arrrghhh> djdarkman, is there a config file i can blast out that would be re-created on the "initial" run of klipper?
[08:09] <arrrghhh> yea klipper still crashes.  i'm betting if i do create another user klipper'll work.
[08:09] <Standarshy> ok djdarkman
[08:09] <djdarkman> arrrghhh: the problem is, that your configuration file may be outdated, or you are missing something that you had before the reinstall
[08:09] <ale22945> hi all! Does anyone know why my laptop battery with ubuntu last only 1h45' and with winzozz more than 3hrs? Thanks!
[08:09] <djdarkman> arrrghhh: backup your ~/.kde
[08:10] <Standarshy> brb
[08:10] <djdarkman> ale22944: I already tol you, it depends highly on how you use it(your laptop)
[08:10] <arrrghhh> djdarkman, so there's no config that i can remove that would get recreated on klippers startup?
[08:11] <djdarkman> yes arrrghhh but it`s highly recommended that you back up all config files, before doing anything, just in case something goes wrong
[08:11] <ale22945> djdarkman: sorry my wireless connection stopped a few minutes ago.. the use is exactly the same i do under winzozz..
[08:11] <djdarkman> ale22945: what videocard does your laptop have?
[08:11] <arrrghhh> djdarkman, oh i have a backup of my /home already...
[08:12] <djdarkman> arrrghhh: delete ~/.kde/share/apps/klipper
[08:12] <ale22945> djdarkman: Nvidia Geforce Go7300
[08:12] <arrrghhh> i figured :D
[08:12] <djdarkman> delete ~/.kde/share/config/klipperrc
[08:12] <arrrghhh> KLIPPER WORKS!  jeez i shoulda done that on my own
[08:13] <djdarkman> ok arrrghhh it`s good to see :)
[08:13] <arrrghhh> i deleted the whole klipper directory under apps like ya said.  and it runs just fine!  thanks!
[08:13] <djdarkman> ale22945: what do you do on win and lin?
[08:13] <djdarkman> np arrrghhh
[08:14] <jahsragi> test
[08:14] <arrrghhh> wow bed time.  cya guys!  thanks again!
[08:14] <ale22945> djdarkman: internet browsing/play some music/work with openoffice and evolution
[08:15] <djdarkman> ale22945: and under windows do you see a differance in performance/screen brightness etc. when you unplug your laptop?
[08:16] <BigBuddha> i need help with sound, all volume is only at about 50% with every thing cranked up
[08:17] <ale22945> djdarkman: the brightness is the same, I always run my notebook in "economy" mode, maybe kubuntu/ubuntu is faster running applications
[08:17] <djdarkman> BigBuddha: what soundcard do you have?
[08:17] <BigBuddha> djdarkman: how do i check, cli
[08:18] <Standarshy> djdarkman, did you look that thing up?
[08:18] <djdarkman> Standarshy: open a terminal
[08:18] <djdarkman> type sudo -s
[08:18] <djdarkman> enter password
[08:18] <djdarkman> and repeat after me :)
[08:19] <Standarshy> one sec
[08:19] <Standarshy> ok
[08:20] <djdarkman> echo "deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-members-kde4/ubuntu hardy main" >> /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:20] <Standarshy> alright
[08:20] <djdarkman> Standarshy: do you have KDE4 installed already?
[08:21] <Standarshy> yes, wait
[08:21] <Standarshy> hold on
[08:21] <djdarkman> ok
[08:21] <Standarshy> i just clicked help about kde
[08:21] <Standarshy> and it said i have kde 4.1
[08:22] <Standarshy> I was doing some things, but i didn't think it actually worked
[08:22] <Standarshy> I got an error somewhere that I thought was for kde
[08:22] <Standarshy> Should I reinstall it or reboot to see if it actually worked?
[08:23] <djdarkman> Wait Standarshy
[08:23] <Standarshy> k
[08:24] <djdarkman> type these
[08:24] <djdarkman> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[08:24] <Standarshy> do i still need to type sudo?
[08:26] <djdarkman> Standarshy: no, it will work with or without sudo, since sudo -s, you are in a root shell
[08:26] <djdarkman> BigBuddha: I`m still searching for that command :)
[08:27] <Standarshy> djdarkman, I have unmet dependancies
[08:27] <BigBuddha>  ok, ty djdarkman, i am too, no luck yet
[08:28] <djdarkman> Standarshy: apt-get -f install
[08:28] <djdarkman> and repeat the previous command
[08:28] <Standarshy> http://pastebin.com/d4a398910
[08:28] <Standarshy> is what I got back
[08:28] <djdarkman> BigBuddha: here you go
[08:28] <djdarkman> http://forums.opensuse.org/hardware/387999-hardware-alsa-driver-issue.html
[08:28] <Standarshy> where do i put the apt-get -f install
[08:29] <BigBuddha> ok
[08:29] <BigBuddha> ty brb
[08:29] <djdarkman> Standarshy: type apt-get -f install again :)
[08:29] <Standarshy> djdarkman, that doesn't go in front of anything?
[08:30] <djdarkman> BigBuddha: this is what you`ll be interested in wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash alsa-info.sh
[08:30] <BigBuddha> ok, reading now
[08:30] <Standarshy> djdarkman, did you read my pastebin thing?E: Couldn't find package again
[08:31] <djdarkman> same thing Standarshy?
[08:31] <Standarshy> this time, it said "E: Couldn't find package again"
[08:31]  * djdarkman hates how KDE4 is being packaged in Kubuntu
[08:32] <BigBuddha> djdarkman: i get this back:
[08:32] <BigBuddha> aaron@HQ-Linux:~$ wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && bash alsa-info.sh
[08:32] <BigBuddha> Error parsing proxy URL http://:8080/: Invalid host name.
[08:32] <BigBuddha> so is that url dead?
[08:35] <djdarkman> dunno BigBuddha, wait a sec, let me check that script
[08:35] <BigBuddha> kk
[08:35] <djdarkman> Standarshy: your erro message is strange
[08:35] <Standarshy> djdarkman, tthanks, that's reassuring
[08:35] <Standarshy> lol
[08:36] <djdarkman> Standarshy: open adept
[08:36] <Standarshy> opened
[08:37] <djdarkman> BigBuddha: does wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh work?
[08:37] <BigBuddha> lemme try
[08:38] <BigBuddha> no, it gives the same message^^^
[08:38] <Standarshy> hey djdarkman, I'll restart and see what happens
[08:42] <payman> hi i think my ubuntu is slowly than last time how can i repair it or understand its realy right sence
[08:42] <BigBuddha> ?
[08:43] <standarshy> back
[08:46] <BigBuddha> djdarkman
[08:48] <djdarkman> BigBuddha: are you using a proxy?
[08:48] <BigBuddha> no
[08:48] <BigBuddha> i figured out it isnt the card, its vlc
[08:49] <BigBuddha> how do i fix vlc in cli?
[08:49] <djdarkman> BigBuddha: then try another player
[08:49] <djdarkman> standarshy: did it work?
[08:50] <ken_> Is there a volume control for kubuntu?
[08:53] <standarshy> unfortunately not djdarkman
[08:53] <standarshy> I kinda messed things up
[08:53] <flaccid> ken_: kmix
[08:53] <standarshy> I no longer see the window bars or applications on my task bar
[08:54] <standarshy> I'll probably just reinstall everything
[08:54] <djdarkman> standarshy: are you in kde4?
[08:54] <standarshy> well, kinda
[08:54] <standarshy> partially
[08:54] <standarshy> something is working, but other stuff is not
[08:54] <standarshy> applications aren,t showing up in the tasktbar
[08:55] <standarshy> and they don,t have thier menu bars anymore
[08:55] <ken_> flaccid: Thanks
[08:55] <flaccid> np
[08:55] <flaccid> !enter
[08:55] <flaccid> ^^ please try that standarshy and join #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support
[08:57] <standarshy> thanks for the help though
[09:03] <hahahehe> heuy
[09:03] <hahahehe> hello
[09:03] <Standarsh> hi room
[09:03] <hahahehe> does ubuntu hardy come with firewall enabled by default?
[09:03] <Standarsh> so, super quick question
[09:03] <flaccid> hahahehe: no
[09:05] <Standarsh> does http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04/release/kubuntu-kde4-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso include kde 4.1 or just 4.0?
[09:05] <PolitikerALT> just 4.0
[09:05] <flaccid> Standarsh: 4.0x not 4.1
[09:05] <flaccid> i think its 4.03 or 4.05 or something
[09:06] <Standarsh> ok
[09:06] <Standarsh> I think I might just try ubuntu, haven't really checked taht one out yet
[09:06] <flaccid> ok
[09:09] <hahahehe> what is apparmor
[09:10] <djdarkman> hahahehe: some security feature like SE Linux
[09:12] <hahahehe> how do i find out all the ports i have opened
[09:12] <Whiz2> how is it that my kubuntu server (running dapper release) can be accessed from my network, and can access the network (also has DMZ) but when I try to view a webpage, it says it's can't find it?
[09:14] <elgokulo> !pppoe
[09:20] <SAngeli> Does anyone know how to migrate my mail from kmail into a compatible mail format for Windows mail or outlook under windows os?
[09:25] <flaccid> SAngeli: try google: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=kmail+to+outlook&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[09:36] <jagguli> hi all ... im  havin a strange problem ... some of the kde apps have messed up menus ...
[09:37] <jagguli> anybody ??
[09:39] <Whiz2> what is the terminal command to clean out all the junk files on my kubuntu computer?
[09:40] <Whiz2> I can't access repositories, some websites, and am having samba issues (can't copy files to my kubuntu machine from remote computers on my network)
[09:40] <flaccid> Whiz2: what are junk files?
[09:40] <flaccid> what are the specific errors/behaviour Whiz2?
[09:41] <Whiz2> flaccid: temporary interneet files, temp files, cache, old files (files that are no longer needed)
[09:41] <flaccid> well /tmp is cleared on boot and the others are done in the respective browser
[09:41] <flaccid> there is also sudo apt-cache clean to clear the apt cache
[09:43] <Whiz2> flaccid: my latest attempt to use apt-get update fails completely with a message at the end saying "Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead." I also have 49 upgradeable packages, and can't seem to upgrade them before upgrading my platform from 6.06 lts to 8.04 lts
[09:51] <flaccid> Whiz2: which repos is failing and what is the error with the repos(s) above that?
[09:54] <Whiz2> flaccid: i got my sources.list file from http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/sources.php
[09:54] <flaccid> that wasn't my question
[09:54] <flaccid> and we don't support that thing nor is it needed
[09:54] <flaccid> !adept | Whiz2
[09:54] <Whiz2> flaccid: all repos are failing, and sudo apt-cache clean is an invalid argument
[09:55] <Whiz2> flaccid: adept fails miserably as well
[09:55] <flaccid> show me the errors please
[09:55] <flaccid> as i asked
[09:55] <flaccid> perhaps you have a network problem
[09:55] <Whiz2> i would if adept gave one
[09:56] <Whiz2> i'm currently trying apt-get upgrade to see if that works for updating my system
[09:56] <flaccid> you said you ran apt-get update. thats the errors i need which are above "Some index files failed to download,..." this is why its good to show the actual errors instead of editing htem
[09:56] <Whiz2> where do you want them uploaded?
[09:57] <flaccid> !pastebin | Whiz2
[09:57] <nihl> anybody awake?
[09:58] <azmodan> Thanks oobe!
[10:00] <Whiz2> flaccid: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/39349/
[10:00] <flaccid> well i have to go now. Whiz2 i suggest you show someone your error and fix your sources.list. if you disable all the sources in adept and then re-enable them that will give you a fresh one with correct entries instead of from some dodgy site
[10:00] <flaccid> see how it says: 302 Found
[10:00] <Whiz2> yes
[10:00] <flaccid> so Err http://medibuntu.sos-sts.com dapper/non-free Sources
[10:01] <Whiz2> how do I disable, then re-enable the sources in Adept?
[10:01] <flaccid> thats because its not found.. this is what happens when you go get some dodgy repos list from online. are you actually on dapper Whiz2?
[10:01] <Whiz2> Kubuntu version 6.06 LTS
[10:02] <Whiz2> i would say that is dapper
[10:02] <flaccid> ok
[10:02] <flaccid> so you simply remove the repos that are not found
[10:02] <hahahehe> how do i create a Partition table?
[10:02] <hahahehe> how do i create a Partition table?
[10:02] <flaccid> or you refresh it like i said via manage repositories in adept
[10:02] <flaccid> hahahehe: fdisk or qtparted
[10:02] <Whiz2> how do i do that through adept? i have no idea how to access those from adept itself
[10:03] <flaccid> its in the top menu
[10:03] <hahahehe> okay so i dont get it
[10:04] <flaccid> cool
[10:04] <hahahehe> what does it mean, to create a partition table?
[10:04] <hahahehe> is pt another word for fs ?
[10:04] <flaccid> i don't know what it is
[10:04] <flaccid> no its not
[10:04] <flaccid> Whiz2: anyway do what i said and you'll succeed, but its basically removing the medibuntu entries from the sources.list
[10:04] <flaccid> i have to go bye
[10:09] <flaccid> actually dapper may not have the repos management features so sorry if thats the case. good luck.
[10:09]  * flaccid runs away
[10:15] <ben__> Whats the command to move a whole directory even if it has things in t
[10:16] <ben__> **it
[10:17] <flaccid> ben__: cp -R (basics are easily found on google)
[10:17]  * flaccid runs away again
[10:17] <Whiz2> it has the management feature... just doesn't have the option to refresh it so it has working ones... I'm going tp upgrade my installation to the latest from the internet (no install CD)
[10:17] <flaccid> Whiz2: yeah so just remove the medibuntu entries and replace dapper with hardy in the sources.list and then you can simply do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:17] <flaccid> and thats it...
[10:18] <flaccid> ok im really im going now cyas
[10:18] <Whiz2> Adept manager hangs at "Preparing..."
[10:19] <Whiz2> nevermind
[10:38] <BenPa85> hi guys, can you tell me, where I can find the program folder in kubuntu? (I've some problems running pureftpd)
[10:51] <Whiz2> what is the terminal command to delete all files in current directory? (like DOS command del *.*)
[11:08] <Emuk> Q: I have a dedicated server for openarena and i want to make a script so the game starts at the startup of the server
[11:09] <jm87> how do i do to upgrade kde 4.0
[11:10] <Emuk> Q: I have a dedicated server for openarena and i want to make a script so the game starts at the startup of the server
[11:28] <DigitalisNOINITA> I want to know,if its possible that hdd wont boot where power supply is 5.10V instead of 5V
[11:40] <loic> bonjour
[11:40] <loic> je recherche quelqu'un qui pourait maider pour installer flash sous kubuntu
[11:56] <thomasd_> hi
[11:57] <willem> Kubuntu? Erg tevreden met de "all in one" installatie / gebruik! (na jaren van Windows en XP gebruik)
[11:57] <thomasd_> is there a way to monitor the network traffic generated by apache
[11:58] <jpds> !nl | willem
[11:59] <willem> Bedank!
[12:01] <SNG-BurnHell> A Big Big H3ll-O For All and Have A Good And A Funny Day !!!!!!!!!!!!! :)
[12:09] <geogreece23> somebody here talk chinese?i need some little help
[12:09] <geogreece23> somebody here talk chinese?i need some little help
[12:10] <chris062689> Hey, what's up?
[12:25]  * Dr_willis sneezes
[12:25] <PhilRod> bless you
[12:29] <badserii> Hello Gentlemen, is there any application, even command line, for removing a list of files? The list is stored in a text file. Thank you in advance.
[12:30] <Dr_willis> the xargs command and some other tools can assist in doing that.
[12:30] <Dr_willis> or the qmv command perhaps. Depends on the format of the list.
[12:30] <badserii> Dr_willis: Thank you!
[12:32] <badserii> the list is generated by the #locate *.wmv > mylist.txt
[12:32] <Dr_willis> I often use perl/bash or other languages to generate a 'script' that then does the work. :)
[12:32] <Dr_willis> if you used the find command. it can execute a command on the  found files. I recall
[12:33] <Dr_willis> one BIG BIG BIG issue with filenames in a list like that.. can be spaces in filenames.
[12:33] <Dr_willis> In which case you may need to do a bit of scripting and extra quoteing.
[12:36] <badserii> Dr_willis: Thanks. There are spaces indeed. I'm not very used to scripting, so, I'll go the long way. Thank you!
[12:36] <Dr_willis> make a script that reads the files then prints out   rm 'fancy/path/to/file name with spaces.whatever'
[12:37] <Dr_willis> :) then make it print to a file that you then run.
[12:37] <Dr_willis> or use some fancyier features... I tend to break things down into VERY basic steps.
[12:38] <badserii> Thank you!!! I'll do this way!
[12:40] <cryingtux> hello
[12:41] <Dr_willis> Hello
[12:41] <ActionParsnip1> hello
[12:41] <Dr_willis> Jello!
[12:42] <ActionParsnip1> I dont know why we say goodbye I say hello
[12:43]  * Dr_willis gos coo-coo-coo-ka-choo.
[12:45] <ActionParsnip1> hahah YES!
[12:53] <cryingtux> i have a question
[12:53] <cryingtux> can i install kde 4.1 on kubuntu 7.10 ?
[12:53] <ActionParsnip1> cryingtux: indeed
[12:53] <ActionParsnip1> !kde4 | cryingtux
[12:54] <cryingtux> ActionParsnip1: thanks, kubuntu 8,04 does not work on my syste,
[12:54] <ActionParsnip1> cryingtux: if you run apt-get upgrade you will have the equivelant
[12:54] <ghostcube> hi
[12:55] <aetern> cryingtux, i give you advice to not use KDE 4.1 :)
[12:55] <cryingtux> 8.04 has some graphical issue with my vga card
[12:55] <ActionParsnip1> cryingtux: even with vesa drivers?
[12:55] <cryingtux> aetern: its not mature yet, thats why?
[12:57] <aetern> because, kde4.1 has a lot of bugs :/
[12:57] <cryingtux> ActionParsnip1: none, something is seriously wrong with my nvidia geforce fx 5600 card and 8.04 ubuntu series
[12:58] <ActionParsnip1> cryingtux: is your cd md5d successfully?
[13:17] <lakridserne> hej
[13:18] <Dr_willis> hmmm
[13:31] <Jahman> hi
[13:31] <abby87> Jahman: hello
[13:34] <maurizio> ciao
[13:36] <abby87> i see a reduced graphics perfomance with nvidia card as compared to a built in intel card in case of plasma..any idea?
[13:38] <ghostcube> abby87: yeah
[13:38] <ghostcube> this is a known problem
[13:38] <abby87> ghostcube: its quite ironic ...actually nvidia shd work better
[13:38] <ghostcube> heh
[13:39] <abby87> nvidia 8600 slower than intel x3100 i cant quite digest that fact
[13:39] <ghostcube> abby87: http://techbase.kde.org/User:Lemma/GPU-Performance
[13:40] <abby87> btw do u know how to download .deb files so i can put the packages on a cd and then install it on some other pc?
[13:40] <ghostcube> yes
[13:40] <abby87> ghostcube: thanx :)
[13:40] <ghostcube> http://packages.ubuntu.com/ abby87
[13:41] <The_ManU_212> how to get kaffeine standard settings?
[13:41] <The_ManU_212> especially xine parameter
[13:41] <ghostcube> The_ManU_212: isnt htis possible by settings edit xine settings
[13:41] <ghostcube> ??
[13:41] <The_ManU_212> ghostcube: how is tehre a reset button or something like taht?
[13:41] <abby87> thanx ghost :)
[13:41] <ghostcube> abby87: np
[13:42] <ghostcube> The_ManU_212: puh im not on kde now
[13:42] <ghostcube> :)
[13:42] <ghostcube> cant look for
[13:43] <ghostcube> The_ManU_212: u can try to use xine media player
[13:43] <ghostcube> and edit the settings in this one
[13:44] <cryingtux> hello
[13:44] <abby87> cryingtux: hello
[13:45] <cryingtux> im looking for kubuntu repositories list, can i get them anywhere? google is quiet over this
[13:45] <Pici> cryingtux: Its the same thing as the Ubuntu repositories.
[13:45] <The_ManU_212> ghostcube: ok thx cu
[13:46] <cryingtux> Pici: yes so any link to that?
[13:46] <abby87> cryingtux: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/ubuntu-63/kubuntu-repository-475810/
[13:46] <cryingtux> abby87: thanks indeed
[13:47] <abby87> cryingtux: http://www.debianadmin.com/ubuntu-edgy-eft-complete-sourceslist-repository-list-file.html
[13:47] <abby87> cryingtux: :)
[13:48] <cryingtux> thanks
[13:48] <cryingtux> thanks again :)
[13:48] <abby87> cryingtux:  ;)
[13:49] <cryingtux> abby87,: will these work for kubuntu 8.04 and 7.10 both?
[13:50] <abby87> cryingtux: the ones with hardy work with 8.04
[13:50] <cryingtux> ok
[13:51] <TheFuzzball> Is there a way of mounting a HFS+ partition on Kubuntu?
[13:51] <cryingtux> i will install 7.10, 8.04 is not for me
[13:51] <abby87> !dapper
[13:52] <abby87> !gutsy
[13:52] <abby87> cryingtux: the gutsy ones are all yours !
[13:52] <cryingtux> abby87: thanks, im grateful
[13:53] <abby87> cryingtux: ohh its nothing ;)
[13:53] <cryingtux> its really all that i was looking for for weeks
[13:54] <abby87> well now u found it ...
[13:54] <cryingtux> yes and im glad :)
[14:01] <wesley> Whats the best Linux distribution
[14:01] <abby87> wesley: there is not a specific answer
[14:02] <abby87> wesley: it depends on ur need
[14:24] <The-Compiler> Are ther any plans to include Konversation 1.1 to the Kubuntu-repos?
[14:25] <The-Compiler> s/ther/there
[14:27] <Denise> yes
[14:28] <Denise> they plan to install a bath option
[14:30] <Mr_Sonoma> a little help please, having some trouble with converting a .wmv to a dvd or avi format. I have a video I want to put on a vcd or dvd but the stupid thing is a .wmv mencoder gives me a error.
[14:30] <Mr_Sonoma> this is the command I am using: mencoder <input_movie> -oac mp3lame -ovc lavc -o output_movie.avi
[14:32] <Denise> ok bath option time
[14:32]  * abby87 is listening to One Slip by Pink Floyd on A Momentary Lapse of Reason [Amarok]
[14:34] <Denise> bye
[14:38] <TimS> Ellaby:
[14:38] <TimS> Howdy
[14:39] <TimS> Just type as if you were sending someone a message
[14:39] <Ellaby> hey
[14:39] <Ellaby> the compiz fusion one is empty by the looks of things
[14:40] <TimS> #-compiz-fusion has 141 nicks
[14:40] <TimS> #compiz-fusion has 141 nicks
[14:40] <TimS> Just click the second one and it should open it
[15:34] <Denise> ah I got it
[15:34] <Denise> u didnt appreciate me talking about bath
[15:35] <Pici> Denise: This is a support channel, if you just want to chat you can join #kubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:35] <Denise> okay
[15:43] <chrisinajar> So I have a laptop that wont shut down when I tell it to. It gets to the "Will halt now" step and then just chills until I hold down the power button... It doesn't do it every time, but certainly most of the time...
[15:43] <chrisinajar> turning off acpi didn't help, turning off apm didn't help...
[15:44] <chrisinajar> I don't really know how to troubleshoot a problem like this....
[15:45] <soupdujour> anyone here have experience with sis900 ethernet cards under ubuntu 8.04?
[15:45] <concernedcitizen> what's the clipboard manager in kubuntu?
[15:45] <concernedcitizen> i can't seem to copy something from inkscape over to gimp
[15:46] <chrisinajar> concernedcitizen: that might be due to incompatible programs though :-P
[15:47] <chrisinajar> concernedcitizen: just save what you need copied as an uncompressed fileformat, then open it in the other one....
[15:47] <chrisinajar> soupdujour: are you having problems with one?
[15:48] <soupdujour> yes, i am
[15:48] <chrisinajar> if you state your problem, someone might have a solution...
[15:48] <chrisinajar> you wont get any help if you don't say what's wrong :-P
[15:49] <soupdujour> well, where to start? i recently installed ubuntu 8.04 but can't seem to get the internet going. the network-assistant doesn't seem to be any help, none of the settings, even a static one will get me a connection
[15:49] <chrisinajar> does it detect the interface?
[15:50] <soupdujour> i just had a friend over to check sthings and we figured out that, although ubuntu recognises the eth0 card, i cannot get a connection
[15:50] <chrisinajar> and does the interface have a link light (usually 1 light on and another next to it blinking)
[15:50] <concernedcitizen> darn it, gimp is so hard to use :(
[15:50] <chrisinajar> jump onto a command line and type in this....
[15:50] <chrisinajar> ifconfig eth0 up
[15:50] <soupdujour> so the card is found, but it is not assigned a MAC or an IP-Adress for that matter...
[15:51] <chrisinajar> dhclient3 eth0
[15:51] <chrisinajar> as root
[15:51] <chrisinajar> for both
[15:51] <soupdujour> and up to now the ifconfig eth0 up has generated this message: SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument
[15:52] <soupdujour> but ill try the dhclient3 eth0 and the ifconfig up...
[15:53] <soupdujour> only thing i've been able to do is manually set a mac for eth0
[15:54] <chrisinajar> see what happens when you do /etc/init.d/networking restart
[15:54] <chrisinajar> So I have a laptop that wont shut down when I tell it to. It gets to the "Will halt now" step and then just chills until I hold down the power button... It doesn't do it every time, but certainly most of the time...
[15:54] <tsunami> What is a good tool to benchmark my system?
[15:54] <chrisinajar> anyone know of any ways to troubleshoot a problem like that?
[15:55] <nec3364> Is kubuntu still unsupported by the Canonical group?
[15:55] <chrisinajar> tsunami: i only know windows tools to benchmark.... you can probably find some nice ones through a google search though
[15:56] <chrisinajar> tsunami: that or a packages.ubuntu.com search...
[15:58] <nec3364> Is kubuntu still unsupported by the Canonical group?
[15:58] <soupdujour> is eth0 supposed to be 00:00:00:00:00:00
[15:58] <soupdujour> ?
[15:59] <chrisinajar> no
[15:59] <soupdujour> other than that i get another msg "invalid argument"
[15:59] <soupdujour> i thought so...
[15:59] <chrisinajar> is it integrated or is it a card...
[15:59] <soupdujour> integrated
[15:59] <tyas> jakarta
[16:00] <soupdujour> should i manually change / assign a mac?
[16:00] <chrisinajar> no
[16:00] <soupdujour> ok
[16:00] <chrisinajar> it should automatically get one
[16:00] <soupdujour> it doesn't
[16:00] <chrisinajar> and if it doesn't then you don't need to assign one
[16:01] <soupdujour> ok
[16:01] <chrisinajar> you never /need/ to assign a mac address...
[16:01] <chrisinajar> sometimes it's nice to fake things like modems and stuff...
[16:01] <soupdujour> ok
[16:01] <soupdujour> k
[16:02] <soupdujour> i still have no idea how to get the computer online...
[16:02] <chrisinajar> soupdujour: i googled that error and didn't find too much, read through some of the results and see if any of them apply to you...
[16:02] <soupdujour> several closely applied, none worked
[16:03] <chrisinajar> what card is it?
[16:03] <soupdujour> sis900
[16:04] <soupdujour> (including one very similar problem on linuxwuestions.org) - i get similar readings over ethtool to a functioning system, but what i don't get is an active eth0, a MAC or a IP
[16:06] <chrisinajar> soupdujour: what happens when you type in: modprobe sis900
[16:06] <soupdujour> just a moment
[16:07] <soupdujour> nothing
[16:07] <tyas> hai
[16:08] <chrisinajar> lsmod | grep sis
[16:08] <soupdujour> should i enter that 2?
[16:08] <chrisinajar> yes
[16:09] <soupdujour> is that a vertical line?
[16:10] <chrisinajar> soupdujour: yes, it's shift+the key below the backspace
[16:10] <chrisinajar> it's called a pipe, basically it takes the output of one command and puts it into the input of another
[16:11] <chrisinajar> lsmod lists modules loaded, and grep is a searching command...
[16:11] <soupdujour> ok... i get a result for sis900: 24320 0
[16:12] <chrisinajar> hmm...
[16:12] <chrisinajar> are you sure the card isn't bad?
[16:12] <soupdujour> i have no idea
[16:12] <soupdujour> how should i check?
[16:13] <soupdujour> or rather can?
[16:13] <chrisinajar> umm..
[16:13] <chrisinajar> well, you need to boot into an OS that the card works in...
[16:13] <chrisinajar> either windows or a livecd of a distro that happens to work with that card...
[16:14] <soupdujour> hm....any suggestions where i find such a distro? the windows i have seems to refuse to work for the pc im working on...waste of money that was... -.-
[16:15] <chrisinajar> soupdujour: under normal circumstances i would recomend kubuntu to test it :-P
[16:16] <jussi01> soupdujour: which card?
[16:16] <chrisinajar> does it light up when you plug in the network card?
[16:16] <soupdujour> jussi01: sis900
[16:16] <soupdujour> light up? where?
[16:17] <soupdujour> chrisinajar: haha... :(
[16:17] <chrisinajar> the card itself should have lights
[16:17] <chrisinajar> usually right on the eth port
[16:17] <soupdujour> on the back or inside of the computer? or are you talking about my router?
[16:18] <soupdujour> because i see no individual lights
[16:20] <chrisinajar> on the actual eth port, or on the router, both will give you the info...
[16:20] <chrisinajar> if the card is wicked fucked then it wont light up when it's plugged in... it should even light up when the computer is off....
[16:22] <Pici> chrisinajar: Please watch the language in here, thanks.
[16:22] <chrisinajar> oh yeah, sorry...
[16:23] <chrisinajar> sometimes I don't pay attention :-P muh bad
[16:24] <soupdujour> chrisinajar: there is no light to check
[16:24] <soupdujour> only a "communitylight" but im not about to disconnect the cable here...
[16:25] <tacosarecool> hello
[16:28] <soupdujour> well, i give up for now... bye!"
[16:39] <acer_> how to make more freespace on harddisk to get more synaptic package manager? my kubuntu just left 500 mb. but total free space on windows 5 gb. i am using kubuntu and windows
[16:41] <tacosarecool> Hmm
[16:41] <tacosarecool> Get a ubuntu cd
[16:41] <tacosarecool> Use gparter
[16:41] <elo_> parted
[16:41] <tacosarecool> Allocate more space to partition
[16:41] <tacosarecool> acer how big is your harddrive?
[16:43] <tacosarecool> acer?
[16:45] <rascal> hi
[16:46] <tacosarecool> hey
[16:46] <guilhermeblanco> hi
[16:47] <tacosarecool> So anyone need help?
[16:47] <Denise> I think i have to leave the hope to use my scanner on ubuntu
[16:47] <tacosarecool> the hope?
[16:48] <Denise> yes
[16:48] <tacosarecool> What scanner are you using?
[16:48] <Denise> it seems the hp5510 is not listed
[16:48] <tacosarecool> I'll go see
[16:49] <Denise> and my pidgin doesnt work
[16:51] <acer_> my harddrive total is 60 gb. i was made 2 partition via windows. the operating system had 20 gb. windows and their application need 13 gb. but my kubuntu only made 2 gb. it seems not sufficient to download more packages. how to make 5 gb can inserted to kubuntu
[16:52] <Denise> all is sick in my system
[16:57] <tacosarecool> denise http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/install.php
[16:58] <tacosarecool> denise http://hplip.sourceforge.net/install/manual/distros/ubuntu.html
[16:58] <tacosarecool> I don't think it's hardy though
[16:58] <Latre> hi people....i have a doubt.....i have mi PC with 8G of memory and kubuntu only see 4G, its neccesary install kubuntu 64bits to see the 8G?   or some upgrade of kernel??
[16:59] <tacosarecool> Yes but that's weird that 32 bit would see 4 g anyway
[16:59] <tacosarecool> I would think it would only see 3.5 g
[17:00] <Latre> In PC Bios see 8G
[17:00] <abby87> !OS
[17:01] <Latre> mmm.....ok...i said 4G but see 3.5G
[17:01] <tacosarecool> Anyway you do need 64 bit
[17:01]  * abby87 is listening to High Hopes by Pink Floyd on Echoes: The Best of Pink Floyd [Amarok]
[17:01] <Latre> iso for amd64 ?
[17:02] <tacosarecool> abby what irc client are you using?
[17:02] <tacosarecool> Kopete?
[17:02] <abby87> konversation 1.01
[17:02] <tacosarecool> Oh ok cool
[17:02] <tacosarecool> How did you use amarok
[17:02] <tacosarecool> With konversation
[17:03] <abby87> oh just type command /media
[17:03] <abby87> in konversation
[17:03] <tacosarecool> thanks
[17:03] <Latre> tacosarecool, amd64 iso its ok ?
[17:03] <Denise> both links?
[17:03] <abby87> while playing amarok ofcourse (doesnt work with amarok 2 series)
[17:03] <tacosarecool> Latre what processor you have?
[17:03] <theworldbestPESz> wie sin die zahlen??
[17:04] <jussi01> !de
[17:04] <jussi01> argh
[17:04] <tacosarecool> Abby it does work with 2
[17:05] <Latre> tacosarecool, intel quad core
[17:05] <abby87> tacosarecool: oh cool
[17:05] <tacosarecool> Oh don't get amd
[17:05] <abby87> tacosarecool: doesnt work with nightly build
[17:05] <tacosarecool> Actually amd is fine
[17:06] <tacosarecool> it's for amd and intel
[17:06] <abby87> amd is doin triple core i guesS?
[17:06] <abby87> quad cores are great
[17:06] <tacosarecool> Don't get one with the community support only though
[17:06] <pablovicente> why google earth close by itself?
[17:07] <Denise> it seems very complicated
[17:07] <tacosarecool> Denise
[17:07] <abby87> pablovicente: there could be many reasons\
[17:07] <tacosarecool> Go to kmenu
[17:07] <pablovicente> yes
[17:07] <tacosarecool> system
[17:07] <Denise> how i know what version to install
[17:07] <tacosarecool> hplip toolbox
[17:08] <bjv> ok
[17:08] <strawbeRRy_fieLd> hi guys how do i remove gnome dm from kubuntu? i installed it to try but now i want to get rid of it thank you
[17:09] <tacosarecool> synaptic
[17:09] <bjv> i  went to kmenu>ksystem now what i do?
[17:09] <tacosarecool> Or add and remove
[17:09] <bjv> how i removes google earth if i installed as .bin?
[17:09] <Denise> kmenu?
[17:10] <bjv> remove*
[17:10] <bjv> it dosen't appear in synaptic
[17:10] <bjv> doesn't*
[17:10] <jussi01> !purekde | strawbeRRy_fieLd
[17:10] <abby87> strawbeRRy_fieLd:sudo apt-get autoremove ubuntu-desktop
[17:10] <rambo3> glx has craped out , where do i disable wobbly windows
[17:11] <bjv> please how i remove google earth if i installed as .bin!!!
[17:11] <jussi01> !repeat | bjv
[17:12] <abby87> !patience
[17:13]  * h2sm is listening to rah ellil by Dahmane Elharrachi on dahman1 [Amarok]
[17:14] <Denise> hmm
[17:14]  * tacosarecool is listening to Stance Punks by Tokyo Brothers [Amarok]
[17:14] <Denise> but my printer is working
[17:14] <tacosarecool> Oh crap
[17:14] <tacosarecool> No
[17:14] <Denise> it is only the scanner part
[17:14] <Denise> that poses problem
[17:15]  * tacosarecool is listening to Tokyo Brothers by Stance Punks [Amarok]
[17:15] <tacosarecool> Phew
[17:15]  * abby87 is listening to Cold Cold Heart by Norah Jones on Come Away with Me [Amarok]
[17:16] <Denise> cant be so complicated
[17:16]  * tacosarecool is listening to Lost My Music by Aya Hirano [Amarok]
[17:16] <stdin> please don't spam with now playing scripts
[17:16] <abby87> looks like everyone is on a listening spree
[17:18] <abby87> any idea when konversation for kde4 is coming?
[17:18] <stdin> around the 4.2 release
[17:18] <abby87> awwww
[17:18] <abby87> cant wait
[17:19] <abby87> but i hope it should be worth the wait
[17:27] <Denise> everything ok now
[17:27] <urli> abby87: hello
[17:28] <Denise> just had to turn it on
[17:29] <cryingtux> can i install kde 4.1 on 7.04?
[17:30] <Denise> my problem is that I see things too complicated
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[17:32] <Denise> so how I can solve my problem with pidgin
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Denise: sup?
[17:32] <Denise> sup?
[17:33] <ghostcube> whats up
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Denise: sup == whats up
[17:33] <Denise> it doesnt want to open
[17:33] <ghostcube> Denise: www.getdeb.net newer pidgin release afaik
[17:33] <cryingtux> i guess nobody likes kde 4.1 here :)
[17:33] <ghostcube> yep
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Denise: ps -ef | grep pidgin
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> cryingtux: no, fluxbox here
[17:34] <jussi01> cryingtux: because the place is #kubuntu-kde4 ;)
[17:34] <cryingtux> jussi01: thanks, i will jump there too :)
[17:34] <jussi01> cryingtux: this channel is for kde3 support :()
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> I have a regular folder in my ~/ folder in konqueror
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> it has what looks like US power plug on it in red
[17:42] <joro> hi
[17:42] <joro> i can't install skype for kubunto
[17:42] <joro> i can't install skype for kubuntu
[17:42] <lumm> great
[17:43] <lumm> wahts your problem exactly
[17:44] <lumm> joro
[17:45] <joro> moment
[17:45] <joro> please
[17:46] <joro> download skype for ubuntu 7.4+
[17:46] <joro> next open->install package
[17:47] <emiliafaneite> hello
[17:48] <joro> "The package file does not exist"
[17:48] <joro> "A nonexistent file has been selected for installation."
[17:49] <joro> Pleace select an existing .deb pakage file"
[17:49] <joro> "The package file does not exist"
[17:49] <joro> "A nonexistent file has been selected for installation."
[17:49] <joro> Pleace select an existing .deb pakage file"
[17:50] <PhilRod> joro: are you on 64-bit?
[17:50] <PhilRod> if not, just add the repository to adept - that worked for me earlier today
[17:52] <joro> PhilRod Yes, 64 bit
[17:53] <tacosarecool> joro select a 64 bit deb if you can
[17:54] <joro> how?
[17:59] <cayal> Does anyone know how to place an ip in my localhosts on Hardy?
[18:02] <rambo3> cayal, what do you mean?
[18:03] <moes> Is it possible to add more than one wallpaper to the cube
[18:03] <rambo3> !beryl > moes
[18:05] <cayal> rambo3, I need a method to place an ip in my localhosts so web browsers can skip the identification page, I can't get a particular website to load on any computers in my houe, save for my iBook which is out for repair right now, I had to add the site's ip to my lclhosts to get it working.
[18:06] <rambo3> ok you bind it in /etc/hosts
[18:07] <tacosarecool> Oh yeah
[18:07] <tacosarecool> How do I install new graphics drivers in linux
[18:07] <tacosarecool> Should I uninstall old ones first
[18:07] <rambo3> !xgl
[18:08] <rambo3> tacosarecool, no , just the new ones
[18:08] <tacosarecool> Just install
[18:08] <tacosarecool> And it will take care of rest
[18:08] <tacosarecool> ?
[18:09] <rambo3> yes
[18:09] <rambo3> ask ubottu
[18:11] <cayal> Rambo3, host.cfg is he file I should edit, right?
[18:11] <rambo3> no /etc/hosts
[18:13] <cayal> I'm in /etc and all I see in hosts.cfg. Are hidden files enabled by default or should I use a command application?
[18:13] <rambo3> http://tldp.org/LDP/solrhe/Securing-Optimizing-Linux-RH-Edition-v1.3/chap9sec95.html
[18:13] <cayal> Thanks.
[18:14] <cayal> :-]
[18:16] <rambo3> also add "0.0.0.0       4chan.com   apple.com windows.com"
[18:17] <cayal> :P
[18:17] <cayal> Do they all have problems with Kubuntu as well?
[18:26] <greeg> hi
[18:26] <greeg>   is there a way to have amarok NOT display the song name accross the screen at the start of the song for every song?
[18:26] <greeg> i mean i can tell what the name of the song is just by listening.  i dont need a chatty gui app to tell me that.
[18:27] <flaccid> greeg: settings | configure amarok | osd
[18:27] <moes> rambo3.. Sorry I lose my ability to communicate I ask about adding 4 wallpaper to cube You suggested Beryl I have compiz-fusion bcop
[18:27] <greeg> thanx
[18:28] <rambo3> !xgl | moes
[18:29] <moes> rambo3 I have all of those features and can have 4 wallpaper in kwin with no cube or cube in compiz with one wallpaper
[18:31] <joshuajtl> hey folkks, i installed compiz settings, and it took away my kwin decorations
[18:32] <joshuajtl> its now showing no window titlebars
[18:32] <arrrghhh> joshuajtl, compiz and kwin don't play so well together.
[18:33] <joshuajtl> arrrghhh: is there anything i can do?
[18:34] <flaccid> !compiz
[18:35] <joshuajtl> forget it ill just get rid of compiz
[18:36] <arrrghhh> yea
[18:36] <arrrghhh> that's my solution
[18:36] <joshuajtl> arrrghhh: is there a good way to get rid of it all at once?
[18:37] <arrrghhh> joshuajtl, if you installed with aptitude it'll remove everything for you.
[18:39] <joomla_user> in a dreamland
[18:47] <afeijo> hi group
[18:47] <afeijo> what email server is best for simple personal php test use?
[18:48] <flaccid> postfix for smtp
[18:48] <afeijo> googling :) thanks
[18:48] <flaccid> !postfix
[18:50] <afeijo> !MailServer
[18:52] <afeijo> didnt new tasksel, cool
[18:52] <dede> ciao
[18:53] <dede> !list
[18:53] <afeijo> so, to personal use, Mail Server as Local only
[18:54] <flaccid> localhost relay only yes
[18:54] <afeijo> mine is in portuguese, so I dont now the original terms :)
[18:55] <afeijo> what shell command to read emails?
[18:55] <flaccid> mail
[18:55] <horst> hi. how can i change th console and X keymaps on an installes system?
[18:56] <afeijo> mail sux, it just read email, dont exist a better one, with a bit more interface?
[18:56] <flaccid> you need to know the commands and yes there is line pine etc. see google
[18:56] <maelcum> or, which packages do i need to reconfigure for that?
[18:57] <flaccid> i don't use cli mail only for admin tasks so i can't remember anything but mail
[18:57] <afeijo> ok, I did searched about it without success, Ill try again
[18:58] <afeijo> what keywords do you recommend? "shell read mail command"?
[18:58] <pollo> hi
[18:58] <flaccid> terminal mail client or shell mail client or something
[18:59] <afeijo> ok
[18:59] <flaccid> mutt is popular
[18:59] <afeijo> testing mutt
[19:03] <Haza> Evening folks. Any reason why i HAVE to run mplayer via the terminal with the arguments mplayer -vo x11
[19:03] <Haza> Otherwise the video will not play and just lag the OS :(
[19:04] <afeijo> postfix has webadmin?
[19:05] <flaccid> afeijo: could be something out there not sure. remember postfix is sending mail only
[19:05] <afeijo> I used mutt, and sent a msg to myself. It worked, the pop3 isnt runing under postfix, some other thing did that...lol
[19:06] <flaccid> it wouldn't have been sent via pop3
[19:06] <flaccid> there are no servers by default in ubuntu
[19:06] <flaccid> oops
[19:07] <flaccid> i tricked myself. there is no pop3 involved, gets sent and rcvd via smtp and read via the local maildir or mbox
[19:08] <Admin1> Please, can someone explain the file structure of KMail? I am trying to understand how to export them into windows vista mail program. I have kmail set as mbox but do not see any .mbox file. Rather, I see files with .index  .ids  .sorted files
[19:09] <flaccid> can it even export to outlook format ?
[19:09] <Haza> Maybe im using the worng graphcs drivers? and coming from windows to linux i have little clue about installing the right graphics drivers for my OS :(
[19:09] <Haza> *wrong
[19:10] <flaccid> Haza: you could try a dif media player like kaffeine or vlc also if you want to switch drivers you can goto hardware drivers manager
[19:11] <Haza> flaccid: I will look at the hardware manager as even Kaffeine does the same thing
[19:11] <flaccid> Admin1: you could do something like http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2003-October/021439.html
[19:11] <Haza> although i haven't tried VLC on this computer yet
[19:11] <flaccid> then its likely a problem with the codec or the video you are playing
[19:12] <Haza> Im trying to play .ogg's
[19:12] <Haza> flaccid:  Its interesting as these video's worked on the same computer but it had ummm, ubuntu 7 installed iirc
[19:13] <flaccid> yeah software gets updated/changed
[19:13] <Admin1> flaccid, thank you a bunch
[19:13] <Admin1> I will try to do so
[19:14] <flaccid> np. btw opera works on all platforms and supports standard mail formats
[19:15] <Haza> flaccid: Also, i don't know if this helps but... you know that little openGL gears animation you can play to test your graphics and OpenGL?
[19:15] <Haza> iirc you run it via the terminal..
[19:16] <flaccid> glxgears
[19:16] <Haza> That little OpenGL gears animation works great
[19:16] <Haza> flaccid: Thats the one
[19:16] <Admin1> flaccid, one question: with kmail there are usually three files for the same folder. Example: Folder name: Archiver  I will also have a folder named: ".Archiver.directory" + "Archiver.index" + "Archiver.ids" + "Archiver.sorted"  Now, based on the link you provided me with, which folder should I just copy into my /var/mail/username? Just "Archiver"  ?
[19:17] <flaccid> Admin1: um i don't think thats what it says. it says to create an mbox mail folder IN kmail
[19:18] <flaccid> in terms of kmail filenames etc. i've never used kmail really so i can't say sorry
[19:19] <rockprincess> hey all, has anyone ever tried syncing an ipod with kontact?! i've looked it up on the internet, and apparently you'd just have to export your dates/events/todos as an ical file.....but that just doesn't work for me. my events just won't show up :(
[19:19] <Admin1> flaccid, I understand what you told me. Once I create a new folder named "mbox" and move all mail into it, if you take a look at the main mail folder you will also find other files, wouldn't you or am I mistake or do I have a maildir setting?
[19:21] <flaccid> i don't know if kmail has anyting to do with maildir, i've never used it sorry
[19:23] <rot> hi I  have a question
[19:24] <arrrghhh> !question | rot
[19:24] <Admin1> flaccid, I believe I have maildir setting this is why I have so many files. Rather, in mbox I should end up with one file and one only, correct?
[19:24] <rot> how to connect internet from mode throw the
[19:24] <rot> computer for linux
[19:24] <rot> cuz now I'm using wirless
[19:24] <rot> I want to us connect from mode to computer
[19:25] <Haza> rot: Don't we all?
[19:25] <rot> I want to use mode
[19:26] <rot> how to do cuz I using router
[19:26] <arty_> hi all
[19:26] <rot> I want to use DSL
[19:26] <arty_> what is the best klient on ICQ pls help I use KOPETE but cant send file :) pls help
[19:29] <arty_> hhhhhhhhhhhhhheeeeeeeeeeeeellllllllllllllllpppppppppppp
[19:29] <arrrghhh> rot, you're going to have to explain better...
[19:29] <arrrghhh> arty_, settle down
[19:29] <arrrghhh> try pidgin
[19:29] <arty_> pidgin ist the best ???
[19:30] <rot> ok
[19:30] <rot> know I using interent thorw ubuntu wireless I want to using direct mode
[19:30] <rot> how
[19:31] <rot> cuz when I plugged the wire is not showing the network form the mode
[19:31] <flaccid> !ppp
[19:31] <flaccid> im off
[19:32] <flaccid> !dsl
[19:33] <arrrghhh> rot, you're not making sense
[19:34] <rot> man
[19:35] <rot> I want to connect the mode to the computer
[19:35] <rot> and I can find the network how to connect
[19:35] <rot> do u get it
[19:36] <arty_> arrrghhh: thx m8
[19:37] <arrrghhh> arty_, np
[19:41] <HailandKill> I'm trying to install the latest drivers from ati manually... it hasn't worked. xorg's log reports that it can't open a DRM connection because /etc/dri doesn't exist.. basically.. any ideas? I imagine I hould have /etc/dri
[19:42] <jussi01> HailandKill: use envyng
[19:42] <jussi01> !envyng
[19:43] <HailandKill> jussi01: okay, thanks. I'll look into it.
[19:43] <jussi01> :)
[19:49] <pollo> this command ls . |cpio -o > foo makes the file grow
[19:50] <pollo> File foo grew, new byte not copied
[19:57] <falckon> hi, i just installed kde 4.1 using the official ppa repository ... when logging in the screen becomes a blank grey and i have to use ALT-F2 to launch programs
[19:58] <falckon> any idea what i need to do to get my desktop?
[19:59] <falckon> ohh heh... i'll try kubuntu-kde4
[20:11] <The_Pikos> hi!
[20:11] <jussi01> hi!
[20:12] <The_Pikos> i've this msg but no package apps launch... Another process is using the packaging system database
[20:12] <The_Pikos> how can i solve it plz?
[20:14] <TheFuzzball> I am running Kubuntu in a Virtual Machine and I want to open my local HTTP server (I use it for testing websites), I type the IP of the host computer (192.168.2.6) but I get nothing, I also try loopback and localhost. Does anyone know how to fix this?
[20:14] <The_Pikos> Another process is using the packaging system database
[20:14] <jussi01> The_Pikos: have you got adept open?
[20:15] <The_Pikos> yes
[20:15] <The_Pikos> it send me this mess
[20:15] <jussi01> The_Pikos: thats the problem then...
[20:15] <The_Pikos> no no
[20:15] <jussi01> oh
[20:15] <The_Pikos> actually
[20:15] <jussi01> then this
[20:15] <jussi01> !aptfix | The_Pikos
[20:15] <The_Pikos> ok
[20:15] <jussi01> The_Pikos: run that command
[20:16] <The_Pikos> thxs i try it
[20:16] <jussi01> TheFuzzball: that sounds like your vmware network settings are wrong
[20:16] <buckethead> I've wondered for a long time why they can't come up with a better work around for that.
[20:16] <buckethead> I need to learn c so I can bitch less, fix more.
[20:17] <jussi01> buckethead: theres a new adept on its way, hopefully better
[20:18] <The_Pikos> ok perfect the command from the bot work
[20:18] <TheFuzzball> jussi01, Have any Idea of how to fix them, I am running Apache on Vista SP1 with VMWare 6.0.4
[20:18] <jussi01> TheFuzzball: not sure... go have a look in vmware and check out the network settigns?
[20:19] <TheFuzzball> Thanks, I shall do that :)
[20:19] <The_Pikos> it's really borring, everytime adept crash i've this pb.... I should write this cmd down somewhere...
[20:19] <The_Pikos> thanks for your help!
[20:19] <jussi01> no probs :)
[20:23] <The_Pikos> hum i still have a pb with adept this msg during the update...
[20:23] <The_Pikos> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[20:32] <Fargh> is there anyway to display HTML pages that require MS silverlight ?
[20:35] <buckethead> Fargh: Its called 'moonlight' .. i'm not sure if its out yet.
[20:36] <Fargh> ok, i'll check
[20:42] <buckethead> Fargh: Check on go-mono.com/moonlight. Kind of makes me laugh when it says that 'no video or mp3 playback is enabled.' Not really sure what the point is..
[20:43] <Fargh> moonlight firefox addin works nice
[20:46] <buckethead> Good to hear.
[20:48] <Fargh> maybe I was too quick with the judgemenet that it works :)
[20:48] <Fargh> anyways .. its unstable
[20:48] <Fargh> very
[20:48] <hdevalence> Is there a way to install skype on 64bit kubuntu?
[20:50] <hdevalence> I went and got a .deb from their website but it doesn't want to install since it is for i386 and I have amd64
[20:51] <PhilRod> hdevalence: do the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype work for you?
[20:53] <hdevalence> PhilRod: haven't tried. Guess I should have searched the wiki first :)
[20:53] <PhilRod> hdevalence: yup :-)
[20:56] <hdevalence> PhilRod: seems to work, thanks!
[21:46] <arrrghhh> man this room is hoppin
[21:54] <ubuntu_> hii !
[21:55] <favro> !hi
[21:55] <arrrghhh> !hi ubuntu_
[21:55] <arrrghhh> lol
[21:55] <arrrghhh> but you do!
[21:55] <ubuntu_> i try msn !
[21:55] <favro> !amsn
[21:55] <arrrghhh> !pidgin
[21:55] <arrrghhh> i win :D
[21:56] <favro> hehe
[21:56] <arrrghhh> not sure what i won yet
[21:56] <ubuntu_> i  try kubuntu
[21:56] <arrrghhh> probably the privilege of helping this foreigner.  speake english!
[21:56] <arrrghhh> or go to a non-english speaking room
[21:56] <engineer> kopete
[21:56] <arrrghhh> ubuntu_, there are rooms for help in your native language
[21:57] <engineer> he's from australia
[21:57] <ubuntu_> i'm fench !
[21:57] <arrrghhh> australia?
[21:57] <arrrghhh> french?
[21:57] <arrrghhh> #ubuntu-fr
[21:57] <ubuntu_> me i'm fench !
[21:57] <arrrghhh> !fr | ubuntu_
[21:58] <engineer> hmm
[21:58] <engineer> (21:56:59) —› Looking up (favro)'s country...
[21:58] <engineer> (21:57:00) —› Country lookup for (202.134.248.211) finished successfully: (Australia)
[21:58] <engineer> wrong guy
[22:03] <arrrghhh> fail
[22:13] <Whiz2> anyone alive in here?
[22:14] <sveri> yea
[22:14] <sveri> i am
[22:14] <sveri> at least a bit
[22:16] <Doates> xD
[22:18] <Doates> Is there any way of running ventrilo on kubuntu without using a windows partition
[22:19] <arrrghhh> not sure what ventrilo is, but have you tried virtualbox?
[22:19] <Doates> I haven't tried anything yet >.>
[22:20] <Doates> Are you familiar with teamspeak or Skype?
[22:20] <favro> Doates: if it is a window app you could use wine
[22:20] <favro> !wine
[22:20] <arrrghhh> yea wine's pretty good
[22:21] <Doates> Yeaah I've used wine for a few things
[22:21] <arrrghhh> certainly not the end-all
[22:21] <Doates> The thing with Ventrilo and Wine that I could encounter difficulty with is
[22:21] <tonak> hello, when i create a file it is automaticaly set to -rw-r--r--, how to change this behavior? i want it to be -rw-rw-r-- automaticaly. (every user of the group should have the right to change the files) how to automate this?
[22:21] <arrrghhh> but for reverse engineering windows libraries, it's pretty impressive
[22:22] <Doates> It is a program to use a mic, and uses press to talk keys
[22:22] <arrrghhh> Doates, try virtualbox.  you run a windows environment inside of linux (OS virtualization)
[22:23] <Doates> So how does virtual box work
[22:23] <tonak> no one a guess?
[22:23] <Doates> Ahh nvm I understand it
[22:24] <arrrghhh> lol ok
[22:24] <arrrghhh> tonak, it really depends on how you're creating files, what you're doing it for etc
[22:24] <sandro_> c'è nessuno
[22:24] <arrrghhh> !es | sandro_
[22:24] <arrrghhh> lol i think that's spanish
[22:25] <tonak> the files will be created in gimp, scribus, screem, abiword
[22:25] <Doates> Okay arrrghhh thank you for the help I will be departing now and will try virtual box!
[22:25] <sveri> it's crazy, after some tweaks alpha4 runs smooth like hardy
[22:27] <tonak> the files are on a nfs share and will be modified and created from different users on different computers
[22:28] <tonak> and a few more programms, blender for example, everything gui programms
[22:29] <Whiz2> can I safely remove pkgs like gconf from my KDE system?
[22:29] <tonak> the goal is, that all users of the group should be able to work an the files
[22:31] <Whiz2> if it helps to know, gconf is gnome configurations database stuff
[22:32] <tonak> arrrghhh still there? how to do it?
[22:39] <arrrghhh> que?
[22:51] <Walzmyn> I just tried to plug in a second monitor to my laptop - the end result was having the primary monitor set it's resolution to 640 X 480 - I need help
[22:53] <arrrghhh> Walzmyn, do you have acclerated drivers installed>
[22:53] <arrrghhh> ?
[22:53] <Walzmyn> you mean the nvidia propritary driver? Yes
[22:58] <Walzmyn> Damn this is annoying - everything is huge.
[22:58] <Walzmyn> I just want to get my res back to something useable
[23:01] <Walzmyn> argg! Why can't cannon pay for some servers that aren't slower than bloody chirstmas?
[23:09] <ahmos> hi, does anyone know a program for formatting and resizing deleting hard disks partitions?
[23:10] <sourcemaker> are there known problems with konqueror as browser... it's very unstable... :-)
[23:10] <sourcemaker> using kde4
[23:12] <ahmos> helloooooo
[23:16] <sourcemaker>  are there known problems with konqueror as browser... on kde4... it is very unstable and crashing very often (slow internet connection and loading more then 2 page the same time)
[23:18] <Walzmyn> ok, kubuntu did such a good job of auto-detecting my hardware when i origionaly installed it. How's the best way to get a second monitor hooked up?
[23:32] <contrast83> Greets, everyone...
[23:33] <contrast83> I'm trying to walk my friend through getting a wireless PCMIA card working, hoping someone can help me out?
[23:44] <contrast83> I'm trying to walk my friend through getting a wireless PCMCIA card working, hoping someone can help me out?
[23:46] <Haza> contrast83: I can't help you but i can advice you. Best bet is to ask a question and somebody might be able to help you mate
[23:47] <Haza> **advise
[23:48] <contrast83> Haza: Thanks. I'm actually not in touch with her right now; I told her to give me a call when she gets her desktop online. For now, I'm just hoping someone can tell me one thing...
[23:49] <Haza> contrast83: I would just ask away then mate
[23:49]  * Haza is still a noob to linux but not to IRC :)
[23:50] <contrast83> Haza: After she plugged in the card, dmesg reports that it's unable to supply power to the PCMCIA slot.
[23:51] <contrast83> Would it just be saying that because the card isn't configured yet/driver's not installed, or could it mean the PCMCIA slot is faulty' (It's an old laptop that she got from a friend)?
[23:53] <contrast83> BB in some minutes, any help is appreciated.