=== wsr3193 is now known as raghorn [00:02] Jammu: hey [00:02] hi [00:02] stuff working yet? [00:02] well [00:02] what? [00:02] i still need some advice [00:03] what [00:03] still cant connect to your network? [00:03] my wired is roaming what about the wireless? [00:04] what do you mean? === Jucato_ is now known as Jucato [00:04] is the wireless working now? [00:05] Jammu: are you able to connect to your network now? [00:06] just a moment [00:06] file:///home/portal/Desktop/Screenshot.png [00:07] how do u send a photo? [00:08] 77 take the pic plz [00:11] Jammu: put the picture up on www.imageshack.us [00:11] hi [00:11] Jammu: actually no [00:11] Jammu: just send it to coreymon [00:11] Jammu: send it here [00:13] Jammu: you know what, put it on imageshack [00:14] maybe I should download lionessplugin-nonfree? [00:14] Jammu: file transfer is not going to work [00:14] Jammu: go to www.imageshack.us and upload it to that site [00:15] Jammu: then give me the link to it [00:15] Jammu: type iwconfig into terminal and tell me what is there [00:16] Jammu: is there just eth0 and lo still [00:16] Jammu: or has something else appeared [00:18] Jammu: im sorry, i have to go for a bit (have to go eat), ill be back in a bit, sorry about this, stay here and i will be back eventually [00:22] jammu is jampero [00:23] corey did u get it? [00:24] COREYMON I LOVE U <3 [00:27] Hey, quick question about KDE, the other day I shut my computer down with some applications running, then when I turned the computer back on, those applications opened up automatically. After the first time i thought no big deal, but now every time I boot back up those same applications load up (firefox, two xterminal, and a bus route opened by kpdf). Any suggestions to get rid of this? === consultorio is now known as judas [00:28] ....it's stupid problem but it is driving me crazy [00:29] try SYSTEM PREFERENCES SESSIONS [00:30] Jampero: stop shouting [00:30] ok sorry [00:30] cody_: turn off sessions in system prefs [00:30] im new [00:30] which is what Jampero suggested :) [00:31] lol [00:31] im just so happy [00:31] i got my wireles up and running [00:32] flaccid: Thanks [00:32] nice [00:33] Jampero: wait a sec, it worked? [00:34] yes [00:34] i love u [00:34] okay [00:34] one last thing though [00:34] ??? [00:34] whenever you do a kernel update [00:34] you have to repeat a couple of steps [00:34] so keep those files you downloaded [00:35] Hello! anyone know why my harddisk dissapear from Media Dolphin? [00:35] and whenever you do a kernel update, do this [00:35] cd ~/madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6 [00:35] make clean [00:35] please try to keep responses on 1 line [00:35] sudo make install [00:35] then reboot and it will work [00:35] okay? [00:35] ok [00:36] write that down somehwere [00:36] and remember, dont delete those files [00:36] now i gotta go [00:36] bye [00:36] if u are ever in finland the home of linux i will buy u a cheesburger [00:37] !enter [00:37] Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! [00:37] bye and thank u [00:37] :D jampero you can buy me a cheese burger D [00:37] :P [00:38] ok where are u? [00:38] turku :P [00:38] aijaa [00:39] Hello! anyone know why my harddisk dissapear from Media Dolphin? [00:39] mun nainen on sielt [00:39] ok :P [00:39] eiks linux syntyny suomes? [00:40] joo [00:40] linus torvaulds [00:40] english only channel [00:40] torvalds"> :D [00:40] or something [00:40] can u help me [00:40] !u | vilhelm just ask the channel [00:40] vilhelm just ask the channel: Unless you're Dutch or Flemish, or a government officer, the letter 'U' is not a pronoun. If you want to be taken more seriously, please bother to type out the extra letters in "you". The same goes for "are", "why", "because", "anyone", and so on.. [00:41] sometimes my harddisks disspear from media dolphin but i can see them in root [00:41] vilhelm: yeah no need to repeat. if someone can help you they would of. you can also submit a bug [00:44] @join #ravenna [00:44] #join ravenna [00:44] #join #ravenna [00:48] howto open new tab in kde terminal emulator ? === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang === C4834533 is now known as chalcedony [00:53] ? [00:54] Agent_bob: which one [00:54] ? [00:55] which terminal emulator [00:55] yaquake / konsole [00:55] are there others ? [00:55] i think so [00:55] ctrl + shift + n [00:56] hmmm thate would require khotkeys ? [00:56] its in Configure Shortcuts in the dropdown like most progs [00:56] negative [00:56] This is a strange question, but what package is modprobe in? [00:57] shadowhywind_ grep `which modprobe` /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list* [00:58] Agent_bob: sweet thanks [00:58] shadowhywind_ should work for any existing file installed from dpkg [00:58] welcome [00:59] Agent_bob: you wouldn't know anything about Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0) would you? [00:59] flaccid where would this dropdown be found ? [01:00] its like in bottom right corner... the menu thing [01:01] shadowhywind_ yep. error in the initramfs.img file (maybe called initrd.img.*) if propperly rebuilt it should fix that error. "unless" it's an actual disk/fs error. which is not very likely unless you hosed it. [01:02] Agent_bob: would that also cause a udevd-event[]: run programs: '/sbin/modprobe/' abnormal exit on boot as well? [01:02] Agent_bob: how would one go about rebuidling initramfs? [01:02] flaccid ah i see it. it was set to shift up-arrow kewl ;) [01:04] cool [01:06] shadowhywind_ normally, boot an older version of the kernel. and correct any bad configs that might have caused it. *because i probably configured something in /etc/mkinitramfs/ that caused it) set Q to the version i was working on and run; sudo mkinitramfs -o /boot/initramfs.img-$Q $Q [01:06] Well thats the thing, I have gone back like 6 versions and still running into the issue [01:07] shadowhywind_ another however might run update-initramfs :) [01:07] Agent_bob: ok will run that and give that a try [01:07] shadowhywind_ then assume option 2 "unless... ^" [01:08] i.e. if all versions are hosed it's not the initramfs image it's the fs [01:08] which means harddrive failing or reinstall ? [01:12] shadowhywind_ possable causes. bios change. (re ordering of disks in bios will confuse grub) fs superblock corrupt (boot a live cd and fsck the unmounted fs) partition table borked (if dual booting blame the other OS and run "testdisk" from a live CD) actual hardware issue (falls under the heading of "get an expert to look at it" even if the expert is you.) [01:13] i like the fs superblock corrupt better.. hehe [01:13] shadowhywind_ normally i don't like that option. but it is better than hardware fail ;/ [01:14] yah [01:14] since fsck is an easy thing to do, is there any special flags i should use other then fsck /dev/sda5 [01:15] i would have it do a no-write test first just to see what it says. then go from there. [01:16] man e2fsck says that switch is called -n fyi [01:17] thanks i was just reading the man [01:19] How do I disable kde4 desktop effects? I enable them and now the screen is black. [01:20] ...from the command line... [01:20] I need to re-partition a hard drive, but I need extremely specific measurements of size and location of the beginning and end of the partition. What tools (besides parted) can I use for this? Measurements are in sectors. [01:22] use a tape [01:22] selig5: wrong chan see topic [01:22] jshewey: fdisk [01:23] or u can use a good rule [01:23] in centimeters [01:23] ok, I'll try #kde. [01:23] selig5: #kubuntu-kde4 [01:23] and kde chan is good too for that question selig5 sorry [01:24] flaccid_: thanks [01:24] np [01:25] flaccid_: how can I specify measurements in sectors in fdisk? [01:26] !flash [01:26] To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash (a recent version for !Dapper is available in !backports) - See also !Restricted and !Gnash [01:27] jshewey: what is a measurement ? what do you mean? [01:27] brb [01:27] what the hell is going on with my firefox? [01:28] I just uninstalled it, and then suddenly it decides to start up (and freeze up as usual lately) [01:28] is there a way to change where apt-get install installs programs? I am running out of space on my root directory and I would like the new default directory to be on my home drive. Is this possible? [01:28] home directory* [01:30] Agent_bob: you still around? [01:31] cody you could move some of the load to home thusly. ( mv /usr/share /home/.share ;ln -s /usr/share /home/.share ) [01:31] ubuntu_ for about 2 minutes maybe. [01:31] what ya need ? [01:32] Agent_bob: trying to run fsck it keeps coming up with the superblock could not be read or does not describe a correct ext 2 filesystem [01:32] it should be a ext3 [01:32] ubuntu_ ok. sudo fdisk -l see if the address is correct [01:32] flaccid_: I need a partition to start at sector 353177352 of the hard disk. I needs to be 8247707 sectors long, so it needs to end at sector 361425059. This is what I mean. I need a partitioner that can do that. [01:33] ubuntu_ also note that ext3 is ext2 + journal file. [01:33] Agent_bob: also i am an idiot that can't read.. lol i did /dev/sa5 [01:33] Agent_bob: Where then would the install directory be? i.e. if I run apt-get install firefox-3.0, is this still going to be installed in /usr/lib or will it be somehwere else? [01:33] ubuntu_ any ext3 fs can be mounted ext2. [01:34] cody there is no "install directory" other than / you are probably thinking in M$ windarz terms. [01:34] oh sdang! it didn't change my name.. hehe (this is shadowhywind btw) [01:35] ubuntu_ yes i know who you are. i didn't kow that you couldn't read however :) [01:35] hehe [01:35] also just ran fsck and i got /dev/sda5: clean, 514837/2833600 files, 4895599/5703067 blocks (check in 4 mounts) [01:36] so you also mentioned something about testboot or something like that? [01:38] ubuntu_ ok. sujest you mount that fs on /mnt and check /mnt/boot/grub/menu.lst and device* in the same dir then maybe reinstall grub thusly sudo install-grub -d /mnt /dev/sd?# translating the device name correctly. i have to go now. good luck with it, and someone can help if you have more issues. [01:38] Agent_bob: Fair enough, but I don't want any more applications to go under / , I want them to go under /home because i have my harddisk partitioned such that I only have 4GB for / and 16 GB for my home [01:38] thanks for all the help so far [01:38] i cant log on on to any other irc servers, any help? thanks [01:39] am usign xchat [01:39] an Koversation [01:40] lol [01:40] :( [01:42] try irssi [01:43] or if no one works try 911 [01:43] jshewey: fdisk can do that === root is now known as Guest33311 [01:46] jshewey: something like this will help http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/tutorials/3174/6/ [01:48] ubuntu_: tried disks & filesystems in system settings? [01:48] flaccid_: for what? [01:48] ubuntu_: are you trying to mount a fs or something? [01:49] no i keep getting kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount rootfs on unknown-block(0,0) on bootup like 3out of 6 times [01:50] oh that sorry [01:50] and then i get a udevd-event[####]: run programs: '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit 2 out of 6 times [01:50] lots of results on google [01:51] yah but so far nothing useful [01:51] hardy? [01:51] yah [01:52] i386 or 64? [01:52] i have a funny feeling a bunch of packages got courrpted, and I am slowly finding out about that one by one, and reinstall them.. [01:52] 64 bit [01:52] dual core if it helps any [01:52] you run amd64 on intel dual core? [01:53] is that on supposed to be an or? hehe i have amd64 [01:53] Hello. I am now in Kubuntu with KDE4 and want to install GNOME, but I am getting error messages and I couldn't install it, how do I? [01:53] ok [01:53] ubuntu_: so you cannot boot from any of the grub entries? [01:54] Nutzebahn: whats the error (if it short enough to post) [01:54] !kde4 | Nutzebahn [01:54] Nutzebahn: KDE 4.1.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde4 [01:54] !gnome | Nutzebahn [01:54] Nutzebahn: gnome is a project that provides two things: The GNOME desktop environment, an intuitive and attractive desktop for end-users, users, and the GNOME development platform, an extensive framework for building applications that integrate into the rest of the desktop. [01:54] flaccid_: I can boot from all the entries, but they all will give me the issues.. if i have enough patients and reboot enough i can boot into em [01:54] Nutzebahn: install ubuntu-desktop package for gnome, show errors if you have [01:55] hmm try reporting/searching bugs i guess [01:55] It said that it needed to install gnome-desktop-environment, but it would not install it, and said that that depended on other things. [01:55] Thank you. [01:55] ubuntu_: maybe sudo update-initramfs -u [01:55] I'm not happy with KDE4. [01:55] How do I change my video settings? [01:56] and make sure initramfs-tools is latest [01:56] Nutzebahn: this is not the place for kde4 help. [01:56] The graphics are looking a little mediocre and how can I change the settings? [01:56] Ok. [01:56] read up^ [01:56] :'( [01:56] flaccid_: give me one sec, going to reboot back to normal mode (on live cd at the moment) [01:56] k [02:03] hehe that was a fun expereince again.. 4 kernel panics 1 abnormal exit... === flaccid_ is now known as flaccid [02:07] instead of running update-initramfs -u what if i used -n to create a entire new one? any issues you could forsee? [02:07] um not sure but yeah [02:09] well to create a new it needed a version so i went to update and it came up with a warning of cryptsetup: WARNING: found more than one resume device candidate: /dev/sda6 [02:10] which is odd, since /dev/sda6 is my swap partition [02:17] erm... if you hibernate, that's where it puts the resume image, i would imagine [02:18] but it found more then one resume device which is kind of odd [02:20] oh thats, odd. Its saying that /dev/sda6 and a UUID= are more then one resume device candidate.. but they are both of my swap drive.. [02:20] that would definitely explain it [02:21] now just to find the files to change to /dev/sda6 to eliminate that warning.. and hopefully that might take care of my issues === aakash is now known as smarty [02:41] hey : how can i view network folders? like in windows you can go through network places... how in kubuntu? (i tried Network>Samba and Add a network folder, but no luck accessing a shared folder) [02:44] Hello! I have a partition which filesystem is NTFS and i cant delete any files from the partition :( [02:44] Are you saying that the Kubuntu parition is NTFS?! [02:45] no ... [02:45] the kubuntu filesystem is ext2 [02:45] Another OS? [02:45] Ok, good. [02:45] but i cant seem to delete files from the partition [02:46] do you know howcome? [02:46] Are you dual booted? (im trying to understand your setup) [02:46] yes i am I use Kubuntu and Windows XP [02:46] And you are trying to delete from the XP parition [02:46] ? [02:47] I have 4 partitions of the hardisk that i have windows xp on.. the files that I want to delete are not on the same partiotion as my XP installation is [02:51] hold on, what are you doing? [02:51] I might have done this type of thing before [02:51] is the NTFS partition mounted in Kubuntu? [02:51] yes it is mounted [02:52] okay, then from command line, cd /media/ [02:52] ls to see what the "folder" is that contains the partition [02:52] cd into it [02:52] find the file you want to delete [02:52] then rm as usual [02:52] yes but why cant i do this through media dolphin? [02:54] whats the error [02:54] you should be able to wihtout having to open it as root [02:54] flaccid: my awesome person! [02:54] i just got mumble server and client going heh [02:54] sup [02:55] um, did something just crash? [02:55] my kubuntu is not in english but it said someting like could not remove file [02:56] check permissions and also how it is mounted in mount and or fstab [02:56] if its ntfs there is no perms on the files so its solely how its mounted [02:56] I have a simple yet silly question... is there such thing as a AGP x8 or PCI (non express) pushing 512mb? [02:57] illmortal: try google or ##hardware [03:00] illmortal- Newegg says yes [03:02] hm... newegg only shows pci express =\ [03:02] need to do a better search i guess. === luis_ is now known as tigremx [03:12] sweet!!!! i have no clue what i did or what combination that i did.. but my problems seam to be solved for the moment [03:12] 4 back to back reboots and no issues [03:20] #brasil [03:22] !br [03:22] Por favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt por ajuda em português. Obrigado. [03:22] shadowhywind_: It's amazing how my Ubuntu does that too. I'll have an issue for 2 months and suddenly notice it's gone... without even updating anything. Go figure :) [03:24] Reformer81: yah, well i did do a lot of things trying to get rid of it update-initiramfs/update grub/fsck/boot options.. something worked.. hehe thats all i care about [03:29] has anybody else had issues with FF3 under KDE3 not showing checkboxes selected? [03:29] yes [03:30] for that matter, not seeing parts of pages rendered properly [03:30] I noticed there was a bug report submitted [03:30] but no definate fix === gustavo is now known as [GuS] [03:32] change your gtk styles and it will go away [03:33] I tried installing the gtk2-engines-qtcurve package, what else is needed? [03:34] system settings>appearance>gtkstyles and fonts > raleigh worked for me [03:36] is a restart needed for this? [03:36] before that I just clicked once in the box and once out of the box and that also worked as a quick fix [03:36] restart FF yes [03:37] cool the raleigh style appears to be working [03:38] yay [03:38] thanks [03:38] np [03:39] frustrating when Windows versions work fine but Linux versions dont [03:39] of the same software I mean [03:39] thanks to ignoramis who showed me [03:39] I,ve gotten everything working one way or another [03:40] sometime I need to emulate with wine but it works [03:40] indeed [03:41] im trying to see if I can avoid using windows apps at all [03:41] I have , except I'm a mcdst [03:42] heh, well kinda stuck then ;) [03:42] yeah [03:42] Ive been a Windows guy since 3.0 [03:42] its still my primary gaming platform of choice [03:42] but all my personal stuff is linux [03:43] imo linux is the future [03:43] ive reached a point where I have become bored with Windows, so I have been trying different Linux distros [03:44] hmm me too [03:44] I was running openSUSE for awhile before Kubuntu [03:44] im liking Kubuntu alot better [03:45] really? [03:45] this is getting a bit off topic , I tried dsl,feesb,suse,freespire,ubuntu,kubuntu and a couple others [03:45] kubuntu is my favorite also [03:45] Ive got Kubuntu on Live cd and like it. Ill install on my laptop when it comes in [03:45] cool. it looks like i made the right choice then [03:45] runs faster from the HD [03:46] alot [03:46] yeah I would hope so [03:46] you guys use swap files or partitions? [03:46] I dual boot [03:47] I wiped the drive and used the entire partition [03:47] no swap space then? [03:47] I have alot of extra laptops though, plenty of playgrounds [03:47] I still need windblows for my certs [03:48] I got into linux when I used it to rescue some files from a crashed windblows system [03:48] I just let the Kubuntu installer config the partitions when installing [03:48] heh, yeah we do that at work alot [03:48] how did you crash the Win system? [03:48] Kubuntu will configure it's own swap space? [03:48] downloaded a virus scanner from my isp [03:49] yes, otherwise you can manually assign it [03:49] why did a scanner crash it? [03:49] yes but windows must be installed first to dual boot [03:49] ahh yes, sorry [03:50] did somthing at the root level [03:50] yeah, Ill just give 40 GB to Win and 40 GB to linux (just 2 partitions) and let linux take care of the swap [03:50] oh [03:51] when you dualboot a win/kubuntu drive, which boot loader do you use, the GRUB/LILO or NTLDR? [03:51] grub [03:52] GRUB comes with the install from livecd right? [03:52] yes [03:53] yes, lilo is also available if you want [03:53] if i remember right [03:54] grub is fine [03:55] just remember to install windows first, grub will let you make new partitions and a bootable dual boot menu [03:55] will the ext* file systems not fragment??? [03:56] mn_: negative [03:56] I thought they would [03:57] linux is not really known to have fragmentation problems [03:58] so it doesn't frag anywhere near as badly as Windows? [03:58] no [03:59] flaccid could tell you better than I but i think it has to do with better code [03:59] ext3 will automatically try to write new file fragments close to the existing ones - I think [03:59] does windows frag because of the file sys it utilizes (fat*/NTFS) or because of the way its written? [04:00] google tells all [04:00] !offtopic [04:00] #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [04:08] hello [04:09] !hi [04:09] Can anyone tell me if there is a program like frontpage for linux I can use publish websites or is there something better? [04:09] Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [04:09] OOo probably has something [04:09] Have you looked around in add/remove? [04:10] yes but not finding anything understandable. [04:11] !info quanta | kathy [04:11] kathy: quanta (source: kdewebdev): web development environment for KDE. In component main, is optional. Version 4:3.5.9-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 2346 kB, installed size 5704 kB [04:11] !info bluefish | kathy [04:11] kathy: bluefish (source: bluefish): advanced Gtk+ HTML editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.7-4 (hardy), package size 1570 kB, installed size 6728 kB [04:11] !info kompozer [04:11] kompozer (source: kompozer): Complete Web Authoring System. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:0.7.10-0ubuntu4 (hardy), package size 8438 kB, installed size 26008 kB [04:12] !botabuse [04:12] Please investigate with me only in /msg or in #ubuntu-bots (type also /msg ubottu Bot). Don't use commands in the public channels if you don't know if they really exist. Also avoid adding joke/useless factoids. [04:13] ;) [04:13] thanks ubottu [04:13] !joke [04:13] You might think your joke is funny, but you may confuse new users who follow your advice or irritate people who attempt to answer your question. [04:13] :O [04:13] hah [04:14] flaccid: Just razzin ya [04:14] same [04:15] * flaccid puts on coffee [04:15] Any outstanding questions no one is getting help with? [04:15] flaccid: Yay, coffee! [04:16] um i think its goin alright. yeah this is a coffee bag, they are pretty good [04:17] Im currious if the problems that I mentioned before with FF3 are because of FF or because of Kubuntu? [04:20]