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| Rinchen | #startmeeting | 19:00 |
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| Rinchen | Welcome to this week's Launchpad development meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating Launchpad development. | 19:00 |
| Rinchen | hmm | 19:00 |
| * Rinchen pokes MootBot | 19:00 | |
| Rinchen | mootbot is dead | 19:00 |
| mrevell | long live mootbot | 19:00 |
| mrevell | me | 19:00 |
| mrevell | oops | 19:00 |
| Rinchen | Well, Welcome to this week's Launchpad development meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating Launchpad development. | 19:00 |
| sinzui | or MootBot is very drunk again | 19:00 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] Roll Call | 19:01 |
| Rinchen | Not on the Launchpad Dev team? Welcome! Come "me" with the rest of us! | 19:01 |
| Ursinha | haha | 19:01 |
| Rinchen | me! | 19:01 |
| mrevell | me | 19:01 |
| bigjools | me | 19:01 |
| gmb | me (what timing!) | 19:01 |
| cprov | me | 19:01 |
| salgado | me | 19:01 |
| beuno | me | 19:01 |
| flacoste | me | 19:01 |
| Ursinha | me | 19:01 |
| stub | me | 19:01 |
| mthaddon | me | 19:01 |
| thumper | me | 19:01 |
| EdwinGrubbs | me | 19:01 |
| intellectronica | me | 19:01 |
| sinzui | me | 19:01 |
| adeuring | me | 19:01 |
| mars | me | 19:01 |
| BjornT | me | 19:01 |
| mwhudson | me | 19:01 |
| flacoste | barry is missing this meeting | 19:01 |
| Rinchen | as will abently | 19:01 |
| Ursinha | where is matsubara? | 19:01 |
| al-maisan | me | 19:01 |
| allenap | me | 19:01 |
| BjornT | bugs team is here | 19:02 |
| bigjools | soyuz here | 19:02 |
| Rinchen | rockstar, ping | 19:02 |
| rockstar | me | 19:02 |
| flacoste | bac, leonardr: ping | 19:02 |
| Rinchen | Releases is missing Diogo.. we're trying to find him | 19:02 |
| matsubara | me | 19:03 |
| rockstar | Found him! | 19:03 |
| Ursinha | haha | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | :-) | 19:03 |
| Ursinha | :) | 19:03 |
| bac | me | 19:03 |
| matsubara | sorry | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | ok Releases is here | 19:03 |
| matsubara | I was grabbing something to eat | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | danilos, here? | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | jtv, here? | 19:03 |
| jtv | Rinchen: yes, just got in | 19:03 |
| Rinchen | ok, we'll go ahead then since we'll mostly here | 19:04 |
| leonardr | me | 19:04 |
| kiko | me | 19:04 |
| kiko | I'm here, I'm here! | 19:04 |
| jtv | who? | 19:04 |
| Rinchen | [TOPIC] Agenda | 19:04 |
| Rinchen | * Next meeting | 19:04 |
| Rinchen | * Actions from last meeting | 19:04 |
| Rinchen | * Oops report & Critical Bugs (matsubara/ursinha) | 19:04 |
| Rinchen | * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm) | 19:04 |
| Rinchen | * DBA report (stub) | 19:04 |
| Rinchen | * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) | 19:04 |
| Rinchen | * New packages required (salgado | 19:04 |
| Rinchen | * Next meeting | 19:04 |
| Rinchen | hm | 19:04 |
| Rinchen | Next meeting | 19:04 |
| Rinchen | kiko, will we have a mtg next week? | 19:05 |
| mrevell | Rinchen: I'm away next Thursday. | 19:05 |
| kiko | I think we should if there's somebody that would like to run it | 19:05 |
| mthaddon | herb will be away next Thursday | 19:05 |
| gmb | So will I. | 19:05 |
| Rinchen | The team leads will be sprinting | 19:05 |
| sinzui | I may not be here next week | 19:05 |
| rockstar | Maybe it would be better to ask who will be here? | 19:06 |
| flacoste | Rinchen: Foundations is complete (apart barry which is excused) | 19:06 |
| Rinchen | I propose skipping next week and starting on the 4th | 19:06 |
| Ursinha | rockstar, +1 :) | 19:06 |
| kiko | Ursinha, matsubara: why don't you guys run the meeting? | 19:06 |
| mwhudson | (i am unlikely to be here but then you don't expect me anyway) | 19:06 |
| Ursinha | Ursinha, i can try that, matsubara, what do you think? | 19:06 |
| matsubara | kiko, you mean next week's meeting or all meetings from now on? | 19:06 |
| mthaddon | matsubara, well volunteered! | 19:06 |
| Ursinha | talking to myself is not good | 19:06 |
| kiko | next week? :) | 19:07 |
| matsubara | kiko, sure thing | 19:07 |
| Ursinha | cool | 19:07 |
| kiko | cool | 19:07 |
| Rinchen | ok, then, thanks. | 19:07 |
| Rinchen | we will have a meeting next with with several apologies | 19:08 |
| Rinchen | Actions from last meeting | 19:08 |
| Rinchen | We had two | 19:08 |
| Rinchen | * mwhudson to get with mthaddon to see if we can super-charge gdb to give us better diagnostic info on the staging | 19:08 |
| Rinchen | * Joey to review RT ticket Priorities in RT to ensure they are accurate. | 19:08 |
| mwhudson | so we set some stuff up, but didn't collect any data aiui | 19:08 |
| mthaddon | I think the first one ended up being herb, but I know there was some work done on that | 19:08 |
| Rinchen | I did a once through on the RTs so they are in order as far as I can see for those who gave priorities. I did do some cleanup | 19:09 |
| mwhudson | (because now we're looking at it staging so closely it's resolutely refusing to crash) | 19:09 |
| kiko | herb_, mwhudson: really? I am a bit surprised because I think linkchecker didn't finish running and I thought that was the cause | 19:09 |
| mthaddon | staging has crashed numerous times over the past week | 19:09 |
| mthaddon | although to be fair, the last time seems to have been on the 18th | 19:10 |
| mwhudson | mthaddon: oh, did my gdb voodoo work then? | 19:10 |
| mthaddon | mwhudson, not sure - as I say, it's herb that's been working on this | 19:10 |
| mwhudson | because the last time i got spm to look, my stuff had gone walkabout and it was the SIGPIPE thing again | 19:10 |
| mwhudson | (which might have been on the 18th, indeed) | 19:11 |
| kiko | mthaddon, herb_: we /really/ need to be able to run staging interactively. | 19:12 |
| mthaddon | kiko, we've had this discussion before - I'm still getting you an answer on that one | 19:12 |
| kiko | mthaddon, not me as in we. we as in OSAs :) | 19:12 |
| Rinchen | mthaddon, herb_, spm - can you please maintain vigilance on staging and when gdb kicks in to contact one of the LP devs? | 19:13 |
| mthaddon | oh okay :) | 19:13 |
| kiko | mthaddon, or is that the same problem? | 19:13 |
| mthaddon | no, I don't think that's the same problem | 19:13 |
| kiko | I mean, I consider myself an OSA. just a particurly underprivileged one. :) | 19:13 |
| mthaddon | I'll check with herb about the gdb issue when he's back | 19:13 |
| kiko | mthaddon, sanks | 19:14 |
| Rinchen | ok, so we'll keep this action item open but replace mwhudson with "LP devs" | 19:14 |
| mthaddon | yah | 19:14 |
| kiko | Rinchen, meaning nobody's responsible? | 19:14 |
| Rinchen | kiko, meaning the OSAs are responsible | 19:14 |
| kiko | I want somebody to own this problem and to actually want to fix it | 19:14 |
| Rinchen | and to find whomever they can when it happens | 19:15 |
| Rinchen | regardless of the hour | 19:15 |
| kiko | is that the right direction for this vector, mthaddon? | 19:15 |
| mthaddon | sure | 19:15 |
| Rinchen | thanks... moving on then... | 19:16 |
| Rinchen | * Oops report & Critical Bugs (matsubara/ursinha) | 19:16 |
| Ursinha | alright | 19:16 |
| Ursinha | two new bugs, one question for thumper | 19:16 |
| Ursinha | for translations, bug 259433, who can take a look at it, jtv or danilos? A candidate to RC, i think | 19:16 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 259433 in rosetta "Oops error when translating one string to Serbian" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259433 | 19:16 |
| thumper | Ursinha: shoot | 19:16 |
| Ursinha | thumper, about that two items in the test plan that were hanging (stacked branches, i guess), what was the solution to them in the end? | 19:17 |
| jtv | Ursinha: I'll have a look, thanks | 19:17 |
| matsubara | that one is quite weird, I initially thought was a hacked url, but it OOPSes even with no parameters | 19:17 |
| Ursinha | jtv, thanks | 19:17 |
| thumper | Ursinha: it's bad, very bad | 19:17 |
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| * thumper is unhappy about the first bad item | 19:18 | |
| Ursinha | thumper, go ahead :) | 19:18 |
| thumper | Ursinha: bad as in broken, not working, fubared | 19:18 |
| Ursinha | holy cow | 19:18 |
| matsubara | thumper, hmm did you disabled the feature for now? | 19:18 |
| mwhudson | no, that was something else | 19:18 |
| thumper | as much as we can, yes | 19:18 |
| mwhudson | no stacking will happen by default, which limits the carnage | 19:19 |
| matsubara | thumper, mwhudson: cool. can we expect a fix ready for the second rollout? | 19:19 |
| Ursinha | thumper, too bad that it will take forever to fix? | 19:19 |
| mwhudson | matsubara: when is the second rollout? | 19:20 |
| thumper | I'm not sure that we know exactly what the problem is yet | 19:20 |
| kiko | mwhudson, when would you like it? | 19:20 |
| matsubara | when kiko/joey says so | 19:20 |
| mwhudson | matsubara: but i guess the answer is going to be "maybe", the problems aren't well understood yet :/ | 19:20 |
| mwhudson | (too many moving parts) | 19:20 |
| matsubara | all right. keep us posted on that one. I'll add that to the CurrentRolloutBlockers page | 19:21 |
| Ursinha | so we can't really expect them as items to be RC | 19:21 |
| Ursinha | thanks matsubara | 19:21 |
| kiko | that sucks | 19:21 |
| Ursinha | ok, moving on | 19:21 |
| mwhudson | i guess it's what we'll be working on today | 19:21 |
| mwhudson | kiko: yep | 19:21 |
| kiko | mwhudson, can I help somehow? | 19:22 |
| mwhudson | kiko: if we can think of a way, we'll let you know, but i guess it's a me, thumper, spm job mostly | 19:22 |
| kiko | mwhudson, okay, I'm your man if you need some effort and energy to hack away with it | 19:23 |
| Ursinha | cool | 19:23 |
| Ursinha | may i move on? | 19:23 |
| matsubara | go ahead | 19:23 |
| Ursinha | for foundations, i guess, bug 260140 - an annoying timeout. Who can take that? | 19:24 |
| Rinchen | go4it | 19:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 260140 in launchpad-bazaar "revisions' rss feed timing out for some projects" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/260140 | 19:24 |
| matsubara | bac or EdwinGrubbs ^? | 19:24 |
| flacoste | Ursinha: that's for thumper's team, i reassigned | 19:24 |
| thumper | that is probably me | 19:24 |
| * mwhudson points at thumper | 19:24 | |
| Ursinha | flacoste, thanks | 19:24 |
| flacoste | 'retargeted' is the proper term, thumper will assign | 19:24 |
| thumper | although it is purely DB query optimisation | 19:24 |
| Ursinha | thumper, i thought so | 19:25 |
| Ursinha | is that hard to fix? | 19:25 |
| thumper | so stub is probably most able to understand it | 19:25 |
| Ursinha | thumper, i'll assign him the bug | 19:25 |
| kiko | thumper, maybe somebody on your team could have a call with him later today? | 19:25 |
| Ursinha | and then you could talk to him about it | 19:26 |
| thumper | kiko: sure, I'll try to get hold of him later | 19:26 |
| Ursinha | ok, fine | 19:26 |
| Ursinha | i'm done here | 19:26 |
| matsubara | for the critical bugs session | 19:26 |
| Ursinha | thanks guys | 19:26 |
| kiko | thanks Ursinha | 19:26 |
| flacoste | kiko, thumper: after this meeting is usually not the best time to speak to stub, it's pretty late for him | 19:27 |
| matsubara | we have 5 critical bugs, all of them Fix Committed. | 19:27 |
| Ursinha | matsubara, the same last week | 19:27 |
| matsubara | so, good job guys! | 19:27 |
| Rinchen | thanks Ursinha and matsubara | 19:27 |
| matsubara | that's all from me. thanks | 19:27 |
| kiko | flacoste, I meant tomorrow morning? | 19:27 |
| flacoste | kiko: right, that's better | 19:27 |
| Rinchen | * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm) | 19:27 |
| mthaddon | 2.1.8 rollout: | 19:28 |
| mthaddon | • default LPCONFIG has mailman build - now fixed by explicitly calling LPCONFIG for all make builds | 19:28 |
| mthaddon | • vostok connecting to internal xmlrpc server - temp fix in place, will be figuring out infrastructure issues later | 19:28 |
| mthaddon | Continuing issues with app servers dying and leaving a stale pidfile(average 2-3 per day) - gdb testing on staging since 19th, hasn't yet crashed since then | 19:28 |
| mthaddon | Codebrowse has needed a few restarts over the past week | 19:28 |
| mthaddon | Codehosting needed a restart too (31 lp-serve processes of 32MB each, some up to 19 days old) | 19:28 |
| mthaddon | Rollout time should be 22:00 UTC, not 00:00 UTC, right? If so, the blog will need updating | 19:28 |
| mthaddon | That's it from herb, spm and me unless there are any questions | 19:28 |
| thumper | flacoste: I'll talk when I see him turn up later | 19:28 |
| mwhudson | mthaddon: any movement on the internal xml-rpc thing yet? | 19:28 |
| Rinchen | mthaddon, do we have logs for the codehosting restart? | 19:28 |
| mthaddon | mwhudson, not yet - will be following up post-meeting | 19:28 |
| mwhudson | mthaddon: ok | 19:29 |
| mthaddon | Rinchen, same as usual logs, yeah | 19:29 |
| Rinchen | Do we have a bug for it? That seems rather...unusual. | 19:29 |
| Rinchen | (the event) | 19:29 |
| mthaddon | Rinchen, no bug as yet - can create one | 19:29 |
| Rinchen | mthaddon, please and pass it to Ursinha, matsubara, and thumper for investigation | 19:30 |
| mthaddon | will do | 19:30 |
| Rinchen | thank you sir | 19:30 |
| mthaddon | Rinchen, can you confirm on the rollout time question as well? | 19:30 |
| Rinchen | kiko, 2nd code update tomorrow at 22? | 19:31 |
| Rinchen | er | 19:31 |
| mthaddon | Rinchen, I was meaning for future rollouts (2.1.9, etc.) | 19:31 |
| Rinchen | that won't work will it | 19:31 |
| kiko | Rinchen, or tonight? | 19:31 |
| Rinchen | yeah, should be tonight | 19:31 |
| Rinchen | mthaddon, yeah, let's set them for 22:00 and we'll try to be aggressive for getting PQM's last job on by 20:00 | 19:32 |
| Rinchen | mrevell, ^^ | 19:32 |
| mrevell | noted, thanks Rinchen | 19:32 |
| mthaddon | Rinchen, that'd be great | 19:32 |
| Rinchen | 22:00 seems to be working better for us than 00:00 .... just seems to go smoother with less stress | 19:32 |
| Rinchen | and I get to go home before 9pm :-) | 19:32 |
| mthaddon | Rinchen, absolutely - esp if we need SA help | 19:32 |
| mrevell | mthaddon: Still want to allow a two hour window in announcements? | 19:32 |
| mthaddon | mrevell, I think it's best to leave it as that - gives us padding - maybe "up to 2 hours"? | 19:33 |
| Rinchen | +1 on "up to 2 hours" | 19:33 |
| mrevell | mthaddon: Yes, makes sense. Great, thanks. | 19:33 |
| Rinchen | Anything else for the LOSAs? | 19:33 |
| Rinchen | ok, | 19:33 |
| Rinchen | * DBA report (stub) | 19:33 |
| stub | Nothing thrilling happening I can think of. | 19:33 |
| Rinchen | yay! you're still awake | 19:34 |
| stub | Not for long... | 19:34 |
| Rinchen | I don't have anything for stub today. Does anyone else? | 19:34 |
| Ursinha | Rinchen, only the bug we've just talked about | 19:35 |
| Rinchen | right. | 19:35 |
| Ursinha | assigned to him already | 19:35 |
| Rinchen | And that'll be taken care of after stub rises from the dead tomorrow | 19:35 |
| Rinchen | ok, thanks stub. nighty night | 19:35 |
| Rinchen | * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) | 19:35 |
| Rinchen | Is anyone blocked on an RT or have any that are becoming urgent? | 19:35 |
| Rinchen | I've made some progress with IS this week | 19:35 |
| Rinchen | on some higher priority tickets | 19:36 |
| Rinchen | The two tickets I'm currently still tracking are | 19:36 |
| allenap | I can't merge until RT 31486 is in, but it's not urgent. | 19:36 |
| Rinchen | #31131 AutoReply: Jackass needs to access the Launchpad restricted librarian | 19:36 |
| Rinchen | #31296: convert staging code import machine for production use, set up VMs on remaining staging box | 19:36 |
| Rinchen | ok allenap, I'll have a look at that and set a priority and date for it | 19:37 |
| Rinchen | anyone else? | 19:37 |
| mwhudson | Rinchen: the codeimport one is partially in my court at the moment | 19:37 |
| allenap | Rinchen: Thanks :) | 19:37 |
| Rinchen | k, I'll keep it on my radar mwhudson | 19:38 |
| mwhudson | (we need to make some code changes to reduce disk space usage) | 19:38 |
| Rinchen | ok, thanks | 19:38 |
| Rinchen | * New packages required (salgado) | 19:38 |
| salgado | anything for me? | 19:38 |
| Rinchen | salgado, Jamesh's request? | 19:39 |
| salgado | copying psycopg2 to lpdebs? | 19:39 |
| salgado | (already did that one) | 19:39 |
| salgado | is there another? | 19:39 |
| Rinchen | no but I needed that one to remove deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/jamesh/ubuntu hardy main from the newlaunchpadder start up list | 19:40 |
| Rinchen | I'll go remove that and email everyone to remove that from apt | 19:40 |
| Rinchen | thanks salgado | 19:40 |
| Rinchen | and with that, I come to the end of the agenda! | 19:41 |
| Ursinha | yay | 19:41 |
| Rinchen | Anything anyone wants to add before I close? | 19:41 |
| Rinchen | ok then! | 19:41 |
| Rinchen | Thank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Developer Meeting. See the channel topic for the location of the logs. | 19:41 |
| Rinchen | except there won't be any logs for today from mootbot :-( | 19:42 |
| mwhudson | thanks Rinchen | 19:42 |
| mrevell | thanks rinchen, everyone | 19:42 |
| al-maisan | bye! | 19:42 |
| * Ursinha waves goodbye | 19:43 | |
| mohbana_ | hi | 19:46 |
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| === kiko-afk is now known as kiko | ||
| === salgado is now known as salgado-afk | ||
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