=== kiko is now known as kiko-zzz === ursula_ is now known as Ursinha === salgado-afk is now known as salgado === ursula_ is now known as Ursinha === kiko-zzz is now known as kiko === salgado is now known as salgado-lunch === kiko is now known as kiko-fud === salgado-lunch is now known as salgado === kiko-fud is now known as kiko [19:00] #startmeeting [19:00] Welcome to this week's Launchpad development meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating Launchpad development. [19:00] hmm [19:00] * Rinchen pokes MootBot [19:00] mootbot is dead [19:00] long live mootbot [19:00] me [19:00] oops [19:00] Well, Welcome to this week's Launchpad development meeting. For the next 45 minutes or so, we'll be coordinating Launchpad development. [19:00] or MootBot is very drunk again [19:01] [TOPIC] Roll Call [19:01] Not on the Launchpad Dev team? Welcome! Come "me" with the rest of us! [19:01] haha [19:01] me! [19:01] me [19:01] me [19:01] me (what timing!) 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[19:04] [TOPIC] Agenda [19:04] * Next meeting [19:04] * Actions from last meeting [19:04] * Oops report & Critical Bugs (matsubara/ursinha) [19:04] * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm) [19:04] * DBA report (stub) [19:04] * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) [19:04] * New packages required (salgado [19:04] * Next meeting [19:04] hm [19:04] Next meeting [19:05] kiko, will we have a mtg next week? [19:05] Rinchen: I'm away next Thursday. [19:05] I think we should if there's somebody that would like to run it [19:05] herb will be away next Thursday [19:05] So will I. [19:05] The team leads will be sprinting [19:05] I may not be here next week [19:06] Maybe it would be better to ask who will be here? [19:06] Rinchen: Foundations is complete (apart barry which is excused) [19:06] I propose skipping next week and starting on the 4th [19:06] rockstar, +1 :) [19:06] Ursinha, matsubara: why don't you guys run the meeting? [19:06] (i am unlikely to be here but then you don't expect me anyway) [19:06] Ursinha, i can try that, matsubara, what do you think? [19:06] kiko, you mean next week's meeting or all meetings from now on? [19:06] matsubara, well volunteered! [19:06] talking to myself is not good [19:07] next week? :) [19:07] kiko, sure thing [19:07] cool [19:07] cool [19:07] ok, then, thanks. [19:08] we will have a meeting next with with several apologies [19:08] Actions from last meeting [19:08] We had two [19:08] * mwhudson to get with mthaddon to see if we can super-charge gdb to give us better diagnostic info on the staging [19:08] * Joey to review RT ticket Priorities in RT to ensure they are accurate. [19:08] so we set some stuff up, but didn't collect any data aiui [19:08] I think the first one ended up being herb, but I know there was some work done on that [19:09] I did a once through on the RTs so they are in order as far as I can see for those who gave priorities. I did do some cleanup [19:09] (because now we're looking at it staging so closely it's resolutely refusing to crash) [19:09] herb_, mwhudson: really? I am a bit surprised because I think linkchecker didn't finish running and I thought that was the cause [19:09] staging has crashed numerous times over the past week [19:10] although to be fair, the last time seems to have been on the 18th [19:10] mthaddon: oh, did my gdb voodoo work then? [19:10] mwhudson, not sure - as I say, it's herb that's been working on this [19:10] because the last time i got spm to look, my stuff had gone walkabout and it was the SIGPIPE thing again [19:11] (which might have been on the 18th, indeed) [19:12] mthaddon, herb_: we /really/ need to be able to run staging interactively. [19:12] kiko, we've had this discussion before - I'm still getting you an answer on that one [19:12] mthaddon, not me as in we. we as in OSAs :) [19:13] mthaddon, herb_, spm - can you please maintain vigilance on staging and when gdb kicks in to contact one of the LP devs? [19:13] oh okay :) [19:13] mthaddon, or is that the same problem? [19:13] no, I don't think that's the same problem [19:13] I mean, I consider myself an OSA. just a particurly underprivileged one. :) [19:13] I'll check with herb about the gdb issue when he's back [19:14] mthaddon, sanks [19:14] ok, so we'll keep this action item open but replace mwhudson with "LP devs" [19:14] yah [19:14] Rinchen, meaning nobody's responsible? [19:14] kiko, meaning the OSAs are responsible [19:14] I want somebody to own this problem and to actually want to fix it [19:15] and to find whomever they can when it happens [19:15] regardless of the hour [19:15] is that the right direction for this vector, mthaddon? [19:15] sure [19:16] thanks... moving on then... [19:16] * Oops report & Critical Bugs (matsubara/ursinha) [19:16] alright [19:16] two new bugs, one question for thumper [19:16] for translations, bug 259433, who can take a look at it, jtv or danilos? A candidate to RC, i think [19:16] Launchpad bug 259433 in rosetta "Oops error when translating one string to Serbian" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259433 [19:16] Ursinha: shoot [19:17] thumper, about that two items in the test plan that were hanging (stacked branches, i guess), what was the solution to them in the end? [19:17] Ursinha: I'll have a look, thanks [19:17] that one is quite weird, I initially thought was a hacked url, but it OOPSes even with no parameters [19:17] jtv, thanks [19:17] Ursinha: it's bad, very bad === herb_ is now known as herb [19:18] * thumper is unhappy about the first bad item [19:18] thumper, go ahead :) [19:18] Ursinha: bad as in broken, not working, fubared [19:18] holy cow [19:18] thumper, hmm did you disabled the feature for now? [19:18] no, that was something else [19:18] as much as we can, yes [19:19] no stacking will happen by default, which limits the carnage [19:19] thumper, mwhudson: cool. can we expect a fix ready for the second rollout? [19:19] thumper, too bad that it will take forever to fix? [19:20] matsubara: when is the second rollout? [19:20] I'm not sure that we know exactly what the problem is yet [19:20] mwhudson, when would you like it? [19:20] when kiko/joey says so [19:20] matsubara: but i guess the answer is going to be "maybe", the problems aren't well understood yet :/ [19:20] (too many moving parts) [19:21] all right. keep us posted on that one. I'll add that to the CurrentRolloutBlockers page [19:21] so we can't really expect them as items to be RC [19:21] thanks matsubara [19:21] that sucks [19:21] ok, moving on [19:21] i guess it's what we'll be working on today [19:21] kiko: yep [19:22] mwhudson, can I help somehow? [19:22] kiko: if we can think of a way, we'll let you know, but i guess it's a me, thumper, spm job mostly [19:23] mwhudson, okay, I'm your man if you need some effort and energy to hack away with it [19:23] cool [19:23] may i move on? [19:23] go ahead [19:24] for foundations, i guess, bug 260140 - an annoying timeout. Who can take that? [19:24] go4it [19:24] Launchpad bug 260140 in launchpad-bazaar "revisions' rss feed timing out for some projects" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/260140 [19:24] bac or EdwinGrubbs ^? [19:24] Ursinha: that's for thumper's team, i reassigned [19:24] that is probably me [19:24] * mwhudson points at thumper [19:24] flacoste, thanks [19:24] 'retargeted' is the proper term, thumper will assign [19:24] although it is purely DB query optimisation [19:25] thumper, i thought so [19:25] is that hard to fix? [19:25] so stub is probably most able to understand it [19:25] thumper, i'll assign him the bug [19:25] thumper, maybe somebody on your team could have a call with him later today? [19:26] and then you could talk to him about it [19:26] kiko: sure, I'll try to get hold of him later [19:26] ok, fine [19:26] i'm done here [19:26] for the critical bugs session [19:26] thanks guys [19:26] thanks Ursinha [19:27] kiko, thumper: after this meeting is usually not the best time to speak to stub, it's pretty late for him [19:27] we have 5 critical bugs, all of them Fix Committed. [19:27] matsubara, the same last week [19:27] so, good job guys! [19:27] thanks Ursinha and matsubara [19:27] that's all from me. thanks [19:27] flacoste, I meant tomorrow morning? [19:27] kiko: right, that's better [19:27] * Operations report (mthaddon/herb/spm) [19:28] 2.1.8 rollout: [19:28] • default LPCONFIG has mailman build - now fixed by explicitly calling LPCONFIG for all make builds [19:28] • vostok connecting to internal xmlrpc server - temp fix in place, will be figuring out infrastructure issues later [19:28] Continuing issues with app servers dying and leaving a stale pidfile(average 2-3 per day) - gdb testing on staging since 19th, hasn't yet crashed since then [19:28] Codebrowse has needed a few restarts over the past week [19:28] Codehosting needed a restart too (31 lp-serve processes of 32MB each, some up to 19 days old) [19:28] Rollout time should be 22:00 UTC, not 00:00 UTC, right? If so, the blog will need updating [19:28] That's it from herb, spm and me unless there are any questions [19:28] flacoste: I'll talk when I see him turn up later [19:28] mthaddon: any movement on the internal xml-rpc thing yet? [19:28] mthaddon, do we have logs for the codehosting restart? [19:28] mwhudson, not yet - will be following up post-meeting [19:29] mthaddon: ok [19:29] Rinchen, same as usual logs, yeah [19:29] Do we have a bug for it? That seems rather...unusual. [19:29] (the event) [19:29] Rinchen, no bug as yet - can create one [19:30] mthaddon, please and pass it to Ursinha, matsubara, and thumper for investigation [19:30] will do [19:30] thank you sir [19:30] Rinchen, can you confirm on the rollout time question as well? [19:31] kiko, 2nd code update tomorrow at 22? [19:31] er [19:31] Rinchen, I was meaning for future rollouts (2.1.9, etc.) [19:31] that won't work will it [19:31] Rinchen, or tonight? [19:31] yeah, should be tonight [19:32] mthaddon, yeah, let's set them for 22:00 and we'll try to be aggressive for getting PQM's last job on by 20:00 [19:32] mrevell, ^^ [19:32] noted, thanks Rinchen [19:32] Rinchen, that'd be great [19:32] 22:00 seems to be working better for us than 00:00 .... just seems to go smoother with less stress [19:32] and I get to go home before 9pm :-) [19:32] Rinchen, absolutely - esp if we need SA help [19:32] mthaddon: Still want to allow a two hour window in announcements? [19:33] mrevell, I think it's best to leave it as that - gives us padding - maybe "up to 2 hours"? [19:33] +1 on "up to 2 hours" [19:33] mthaddon: Yes, makes sense. Great, thanks. [19:33] Anything else for the LOSAs? [19:33] ok, [19:33] * DBA report (stub) [19:33] Nothing thrilling happening I can think of. [19:34] yay! you're still awake [19:34] Not for long... [19:34] I don't have anything for stub today. Does anyone else? [19:35] Rinchen, only the bug we've just talked about [19:35] right. [19:35] assigned to him already [19:35] And that'll be taken care of after stub rises from the dead tomorrow [19:35] ok, thanks stub. nighty night [19:35] * Sysadmin requests (Rinchen) [19:35] Is anyone blocked on an RT or have any that are becoming urgent? [19:35] I've made some progress with IS this week [19:36] on some higher priority tickets [19:36] The two tickets I'm currently still tracking are [19:36] I can't merge until RT 31486 is in, but it's not urgent. [19:36] #31131 AutoReply: Jackass needs to access the Launchpad restricted librarian [19:36] #31296: convert staging code import machine for production use, set up VMs on remaining staging box [19:37] ok allenap, I'll have a look at that and set a priority and date for it [19:37] anyone else? [19:37] Rinchen: the codeimport one is partially in my court at the moment [19:37] Rinchen: Thanks :) [19:38] k, I'll keep it on my radar mwhudson [19:38] (we need to make some code changes to reduce disk space usage) [19:38] ok, thanks [19:38] * New packages required (salgado) [19:38] anything for me? [19:39] salgado, Jamesh's request? [19:39] copying psycopg2 to lpdebs? [19:39] (already did that one) [19:39] is there another? [19:40] no but I needed that one to remove deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/jamesh/ubuntu hardy main from the newlaunchpadder start up list [19:40] I'll go remove that and email everyone to remove that from apt [19:40] thanks salgado [19:41] and with that, I come to the end of the agenda! [19:41] yay [19:41] Anything anyone wants to add before I close? [19:41] ok then! [19:41] Thank you all for attending this week's Launchpad Developer Meeting. See the channel topic for the location of the logs. [19:42] except there won't be any logs for today from mootbot :-( [19:42] thanks Rinchen [19:42] thanks rinchen, everyone [19:42] bye! [19:43] * Ursinha waves goodbye [19:46] hi === kiko is now known as kiko-afk === kiko-afk is now known as kiko === salgado is now known as salgado-afk