anakron | HI all | 00:00 |
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artfwo | Hi! May I ask, what package is currently used for reporting kernel bugs? | 04:50 |
bdmurray | linux | 04:51 |
artfwo | ah, thanks :) | 04:51 |
wishie | i have an issue with hotkey-setup on hardy 64bit, which loosely relates to bug #33045 | 05:19 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 33045 in hotkey-setup "'Special keys' on HP Pavillion DV4000" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33045 | 05:19 |
wishie | some of my 'special' keys are mapped wrong, and 2 of them dont work. id like to know how i can fix this | 05:20 |
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dholbach | good morning | 06:23 |
hggdh | morning dholbach | 07:40 |
dholbach | hi hggdh, hi thekorn | 07:48 |
thekorn | good morning dholbach ! | 07:49 |
persia | pedro: Thank you. | 08:35 |
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hggdh | anyone here running Evolution 2.23.90 (Intrepid)? | 09:55 |
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mouz | Should I as a triager nominate bug 259942 for a release? Should I set a milestone? | 10:01 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 259942 in gnome-control-center ""Help" button in gnome-display-properties does nothing" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259942 | 10:01 |
hggdh | mouz, its a regression... james_w did the previous update, perhaps he can state this | 10:05 |
hggdh | mouz, at least you can tag it 'regression' | 10:07 |
mouz | hggdh: ok i'll do that and wait for james_w 's reply. thanks. | 10:08 |
hggdh | Intrepid had the patch as of 1:2.23.5-0ubuntu1 | 10:09 |
hggdh | it seems to have been dropped on 1:2.23.6-0ubuntu1 | 10:10 |
james_w | mouz, hggdh: we just patched it out for hardy | 10:37 |
james_w | this capplet is now upstream, and we dropped most of the patches to follow them | 10:38 |
james_w | it's ok to forward that bug upstream if there wasn't one already | 10:38 |
james_w | you can milestone it for intrepid as well if you like, as we can always just patch it out again | 10:38 |
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aetern | hidy | 11:47 |
aetern | 8-) | 11:47 |
aetern | so, what is wrong with hardy heron, intrepid ibex ubuntu versions? My laptop freezes sometimes, i can't do anything... earlyer versions of ubuntu hadn't this error... Using asus f5 x50m model, amd turion 64(mobile thechnilogy mk - 36), 1GB of rams, NV geforceGo 6100. | 12:01 |
hggdh | pedro_, ping | 13:24 |
pedro_ | hggdh: hello | 13:24 |
hggdh | hi, good morning... a question: are you running Evolution 2.23.90? | 13:25 |
hggdh | pedro_, ^^ | 13:26 |
pedro_ | hggdh: sadly, yes | 13:26 |
hggdh | :-) | 13:26 |
hggdh | could you please click on Help/Report a Problem? | 13:26 |
pedro_ | It deleted my a big part of my emails :-/ | 13:26 |
pedro_ | s/my/me | 13:26 |
hggdh | same here... | 13:26 |
pedro_ | hggdh: let me try | 13:26 |
hggdh | for me it does not open LP, and I was wondering if it is a screw-up on my side | 13:27 |
pedro_ | blah is not working | 13:28 |
hggdh | AH! | 13:28 |
hggdh | OK, then I did not mess up my system :-) | 13:28 |
hggdh | I think this may have been due to the changes on LP | 13:28 |
pedro_ | I get this on the CLI : | 13:28 |
pedro_ | Usage: apport-gtk [options] | 13:28 |
pedro_ | apport-gtk: error: no such option: --package evolution --pid 7919 | 13:28 |
pedro_ | are you getting the same? | 13:29 |
hggdh | I did not get any output :-( | 13:29 |
hggdh | I will test again (I was prepping a change to 03_lpi.patch to take out bug buddy) | 13:29 |
hggdh | thank you, pedro_ . I will open a bug on this later this evening (now I have to get to my contract) | 13:30 |
pedro_ | hggdh: you're welcome, thanks for let me know about it ;-) | 13:31 |
hggdh | just for grins, I ran apport-gtk --help -- it may be that it is now required to have the equal sign on long options (--package=evolution --pid=xxxx) | 13:32 |
lumn0t | I'm looking for some help with hunting down enough information to report a bug. My issue is described in a LaunchPad question currently (https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+question/38900), but I think the larger issue has gone beyond the question. | 14:20 |
* lumn0t prods the channel. | 14:22 | |
lumn0t | Hello? Hello? | 14:25 |
LaserJock | hmm, maybe everybody is out to lunch :-) | 14:27 |
chmac | I'm trying to file a bug against dhclient, but it's saying "There is no package name 'dhclient' published in Ubuntu" | 14:27 |
chmac | Even though when I click "Choose" it lists dhclient as an option | 14:27 |
chmac | It says "not uploaded" underneat dhclient | 14:27 |
chmac | Anyone know how / where I file the bug? | 14:27 |
ogra | dhcp3-client | 14:28 |
LaserJock | dhcp3-client | 14:28 |
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ogra | :) | 14:28 |
chmac | :) | 14:28 |
lumn0t | Responses! Horrah! | 14:29 |
chmac | Oh dear, I've just realised, I'm using NetworkManager 0.7, perhaps that's the issue... | 14:30 |
chmac | Hmm | 14:30 |
chmac | No, it's not, I tested that already I think... | 14:30 |
lumn0t | Problem: GNOME settings seem borked. Two obvious symptoms of this are gnome-power-manager had issues and GNOME themes will not apply. This is being discussed in a LaunchPad question (https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+question/38900). | 14:31 |
LaserJock | yeah, that's pretty funky | 14:32 |
lumn0t | Not sure what package to file a bug against. | 14:32 |
LaserJock | seb128 or pedro_ would probably be good people to ask | 14:33 |
lumn0t | Is privmsg the best way to direct this, then? | 14:34 |
pedro_ | lumn0t: for the GNOME Themes issue is gnome-settings-daemon running? | 14:34 |
pedro_ | is a known issue that it's crashing quite a lot | 14:34 |
lumn0t | Ah. | 14:34 |
pedro_ | that could be why the themes are not being applied | 14:35 |
pedro_ | for the gnome-power-manager tedg is the right person since he's the maintainer ;-) | 14:35 |
lumn0t | gnome-settings-daemon is indeed running. | 14:35 |
pedro_ | he should be online shortly | 14:35 |
pedro_ | lumn0t: are you running Intrepid or Hardy? | 14:36 |
lumn0t | Hmm. | 14:46 |
lumn0t | gnome-settings-daemon does seem to be the culprit. Reinstalling the package has brought themes back. | 14:46 |
pedro_ | well reinstalling it shouldn't make any difference, unless your installation was broken | 14:49 |
pedro_ | we don't have any bugs regarding that and the only issues with themes are in Intrepid with some g-s-d crashes | 14:50 |
LaserJock | pedro_: it seems to be a problem in a 8.04-> latest updates | 14:50 |
LaserJock | that question has at least 3-4 Hardy users with the same problem, I'd suspect a bad SRU | 14:50 |
lumn0t | ..er.. Yes. But the installation was *not* broken before some relatively recent update. I was hoping to help find what it was that broke both gnome-power-management and gnome-settings-manager. | 14:51 |
pedro_ | could be but there's no new g-s-d package since april | 14:51 |
pedro_ | s/april/may | 14:52 |
* pedro_ looking at the sru list | 14:52 | |
* lumn0t wonders where the sru list is. | 14:56 | |
pedro_ | lumn0t: http://people.ubuntu.com/~sbeattie/sru_todo.html | 14:56 |
lumn0t | And I'm curious that if there was some common cause to both gnome-power-manager and gnome-settings-daemon getting squirrelly, if something else may have been affected that I have not noticed yet. | 14:57 |
lumn0t | I don't recall when I first saw the symptoms, but the LaunchPad question was opened 7-11, so the update that may have caused the issue dates from before then. | 15:02 |
lumn0t | Would something that affected gnome-settings-daemon have affected the "configuration defaults" for gnome-power-manager that the reinstall of g-p-m resolved? | 15:16 |
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bddebian | Boo | 16:02 |
ogra | bee | 16:04 |
wishie | i have an issue with hotkey-setup on hardy 64bit, which loosely relates to bug #33045 | 16:05 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 33045 in hotkey-setup "'Special keys' on HP Pavillion DV4000" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33045 | 16:05 |
wishie | could i possibly get some help with this issue ? i need to know how to edit /usr/share/hotkey-setup/hp.hk file, so it works on my laptop, and doesnt cause crashes (like it currently does) | 16:06 |
Awsoonn | Hugday is on the wiki! | 16:26 |
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bdmurray | james_w: do you know something about "No handlers could be found for logger 'bzr'"? | 19:16 |
afflux | huh. I just got the notice that bug 259311 was marked as a dup of bug 250506. Why is that? | 20:02 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 259311 in ubuntu "Movie player - no codecs to play DVD(winthout encryption)and mp3 (dup-of: 250506)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259311 | 20:02 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 250506 in consolekit "shutdown and restart act as logout" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250506 | 20:02 |
bdmurray | afflux: its in the activity log | 20:07 |
afflux | oh, well. I didn't see that it actually wasn't marked anymore. Woops :) | 20:08 |
bdmurray | it was quick! 10 seconds | 20:08 |
afflux | isn't that minutes? | 20:09 |
bdmurray | minutes / seconds - whatever ;) | 20:09 |
afflux | yup, quick anyway ;) | 20:09 |
nullack | Im not an IRC guru - how do I snipe what chans hes on? | 20:17 |
jpds | nullack: /whois should be enough, assuming he doesn't have the +i (invisible) usermode on. | 20:19 |
nullack | Ping Ampelbein : Thanks for your email I got mixed up with bugs Im sorting it out. The particular bug is a wontfix, its by design a non issue | 20:19 |
persia | Note that even +i people can be found if they share channels in common with the person running /whois | 20:24 |
Ampelbein | nullack: oh, ok. just saw the mail and thought i'd quickly set duplicate status, haven't checked anymore. will do that next time. | 20:24 |
nullack | Its not duplicate - I was suffering from multiple bug syndrome and made an error Im fixing it | 20:24 |
Ampelbein | got that. happens sometimes. | 20:27 |
james_w | bdmurray: your ~/.bzr.log is probably not writeable for your user | 20:44 |
james_w | it's a pain to try and give a better message for though, as it's a library that gives the warning, and doesn't give much indication when it has. | 20:45 |
bdmurray | james_w: but it is! unless cron needs different permissions | 20:46 |
james_w | bdmurray: it may be something else then, but that's the usual reason for the message | 20:48 |
james_w | this is your users crontab, and you're not sudoing? | 20:48 |
james_w | i.e. the process is run as your user? | 20:48 |
bdmurray | james_w: it's weird because I'm not even using bzr | 20:48 |
james_w | oh, what are you using? | 20:48 |
bdmurray | its, just a bash script and python script | 20:49 |
sbeattie | bdmurray: but python-launchpad-bugs tries to determine what version it is via bzrlib | 20:49 |
bdmurray | I'll pastebinit | 20:49 |
bdmurray | sbeattie: ah, winner! | 20:49 |
bdmurray | sbeattie: did you fix it? | 20:50 |
james_w | does it exec() bzr for that? | 20:50 |
bdmurray | looks like it import bzrlib.branch | 20:52 |
sbeattie | bdmurray: no, that's as far as I got in digging into the problem. | 20:52 |
james_w | I wouldn't have thought that this triggered that message, but I may well be wrong | 20:52 |
bdmurray | james_w: Do you have any ideas then? | 20:55 |
sbeattie | bdmurray: did you look in your .bzr.log file on rookery? | 20:56 |
james_w | bdmurray: no, sorry, I'm a bit stumped | 20:56 |
james_w | I've only ever seen this be a permission error | 20:57 |
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bdmurray | There is a message about using 'bzr upgrade' for bughelper | 21:00 |
sbeattie | james_w: I get it the same message, even though it successfully wrote to to my .bzr.log | 21:01 |
sbeattie | bdmurray: mine contains nice tracebacks from each run because it's trying to do bzr operations on the cwd, which for me was $HOME and thus contains no bzr metadata. | 21:02 |
sbeattie | Odd: 0.089 Plugin name __init__ already loaded | 21:04 |
james_w | that's odd | 21:05 |
james_w | well, the last message happens on every run, but the rest is odd | 21:06 |
sbeattie | james_w: note that this is showing up on rookery, which is a dapper install. | 21:12 |
bdmurray | but it now has bzr 1.6 I think | 21:12 |
bdmurray | sbeattie: I noticed the same thing on cranberry though | 21:14 |
bdmurray | which is hardy | 21:14 |
chrisccoulson | bug 131846 from the hug day list is an intersting one | 21:14 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 131846 in gnome-panel "run as doesn't include all folders used in $PATH" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131846 | 21:14 |
bdmurray | I've seen a duplicate of that | 21:15 |
chrisccoulson | the reporter says that gnome-panel ignores their $PATH env variable when it is defined in ~/.bashrc | 21:15 |
chrisccoulson | i have a customised $PATH defined in /etc/environment, and it uses that | 21:15 |
sbeattie | bdmurray: curious. I don't see it on my hardy machine. | 21:15 |
chrisccoulson | so i'm wondering if it's actually a bug in gnome-panel | 21:15 |
bdmurray | sbeattie: are you up to bzr 1.6 though? | 21:15 |
sbeattie | nope | 21:16 |
sbeattie | I'm eating distro dogfood not bzr dogfood. | 21:17 |
bdmurray | chrisccoulson: oh, that's the bug I'm thinking of ;) | 21:18 |
bdmurray | I can recreate it | 21:18 |
chrisccoulson | how do you set your $PATH environment? Do you define it in ~/.bashrc too? | 21:19 |
bdmurray | oh, my .zshrc | 21:19 |
bdmurray | :) | 21:19 |
bdmurray | but it's in my ~/.bashrc too fwiw | 21:19 |
jpds | zsh FTW. | 21:19 |
chrisccoulson | i'll try modifying another users .bashrc on my machine in a bit and see if i can recreate it too. but gnome-panel searches all of the folders in my $PATH environment, which is defined in /etc/environment (so I've done it a bit different to you) | 21:21 |
chrisccoulson | that might mean it isn't a bug in gnome-panel | 21:21 |
chrisccoulson | for example, i have a load of apps installed in /opt/bin. i can run them no problem by pressing ALT+F2 and typing the program name, so I'm not seeing this issue | 21:22 |
chrisccoulson | bdmurray: referrring to bug 131846 again - i think the issue because /bin/sh (symlinked to /bin/dash) is the shell used when the session loads. Dash appears to ignore ~/.bashrc when it loads, which would explain why gnome-panel doesn't search the full $PATH on your machine, but does search it on mine (because I have $PATH defined elsewhere). | 21:37 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 131846 in gnome-panel "run as doesn't include all folders used in $PATH" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131846 | 21:37 |
chrisccoulson | i'#ve just tried it here by modifying my bashrc. after i've modified $PATH and launch a new bash shell, the new $PATH takes effect. if i then exit and launch dash, it doesn't take effect | 21:37 |
bdmurray | If I start dash and echo $PATH I see /home/brian/bin there | 21:39 |
chrisccoulson | hmmmm, that's strange | 21:39 |
chrisccoulson | do you start dash from within a bash session which already has the environment set correctly? | 21:39 |
bdmurray | yeah, I guess that isn't right | 21:40 |
chrisccoulson | what you could do is launch a terminal (bash), then clear your $PATH environment by typing (PATH=""). once you've done this, launch dash using '/bin/dash' and then inspect the environment | 21:41 |
chrisccoulson | actually, that doesn't behave as expected. $PATH is still empty after loading dash | 21:42 |
chrisccoulson | a better way of verifying it might be to temporarily set the /bin/sh sym-link back to /bin/bash. i'll try that on my intrepid VM in a bit | 21:42 |
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sbeattie | chrisccoulson: you probably want /bin/dash -l | 21:45 |
sbeattie | though that's not reading /etc/environment here. | 21:47 |
chrisccoulson | thanks for the clarification sbeattie | 21:49 |
dupondje | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/260208 | 21:53 |
dupondje | there :p | 21:53 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 260208 in ubuntu "Numlock not working at gdm login (Intrepid)" [Undecided,New] | 21:53 |
dupondje | a fresh bug :p | 21:53 |
chrisccoulson | sbeattie / bdmurray - i can confirm on intrepid that dash ignores the ~/.bashrc file. i set my users shell to /bin/dash, and when I open gnome-terminal, by customised entries are not there. however, if I launch a bash shell, they all appear there | 21:56 |
chrisccoulson | i'll re-assign that bug from gnome-panel to dash, if we want dash to look at ~/.bashrc | 21:56 |
bdmurray | I don't think that is right | 21:56 |
chrisccoulson | which bit? | 21:57 |
bdmurray | reassinging it | 21:57 |
bdmurray | I'd ask seb128 about as he is probably most familiar with the package and our diff from upstream | 21:57 |
chrisccoulson | no problem. i had a quick look in the source for gnome-panel, and it does appear to correctly search $PATH when it launches an application. the problem is that it's environment isn't correct as it is spawned from dash | 21:58 |
chrisccoulson | i'll catch seb128 when he's on here next and speak to him about it. | 22:00 |
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Pimpy | hi there, need support if possible for my crash for compiz,real after a few seconds on boot on desktop- have 8800gt, 8.10 alpha4 | 22:48 |
Pimpy | nvidia official driver ver 177 | 22:48 |
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