[00:00] HI all === RAOF_ is now known as RAOF === asac_ is now known as asac === jjesse_ is now known as jjesse === hggdh is now known as hggdh-away [04:50] Hi! May I ask, what package is currently used for reporting kernel bugs? [04:51] linux [04:51] ah, thanks :) [05:19] i have an issue with hotkey-setup on hardy 64bit, which loosely relates to bug #33045 [05:19] Launchpad bug 33045 in hotkey-setup "'Special keys' on HP Pavillion DV4000" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33045 [05:20] some of my 'special' keys are mapped wrong, and 2 of them dont work. id like to know how i can fix this === hggdh-away is now known as hggdh [06:23] good morning [07:40] morning dholbach [07:48] hi hggdh, hi thekorn [07:49] good morning dholbach ! [08:35] pedro: Thank you. === mcas_away is now known as mcs === mcs is now known as mcas [09:55] anyone here running Evolution 2.23.90 (Intrepid)? === ara_ is now known as ara [10:01] Should I as a triager nominate bug 259942 for a release? Should I set a milestone? [10:01] Launchpad bug 259942 in gnome-control-center ""Help" button in gnome-display-properties does nothing" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259942 [10:05] mouz, its a regression... james_w did the previous update, perhaps he can state this [10:07] mouz, at least you can tag it 'regression' [10:08] hggdh: ok i'll do that and wait for james_w 's reply. thanks. [10:09] Intrepid had the patch as of 1:2.23.5-0ubuntu1 [10:10] it seems to have been dropped on 1:2.23.6-0ubuntu1 [10:37] mouz, hggdh: we just patched it out for hardy [10:38] this capplet is now upstream, and we dropped most of the patches to follow them [10:38] it's ok to forward that bug upstream if there wasn't one already [10:38] you can milestone it for intrepid as well if you like, as we can always just patch it out again === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach [11:47] hidy [11:47] 8-) [12:01] so, what is wrong with hardy heron, intrepid ibex ubuntu versions? My laptop freezes sometimes, i can't do anything... earlyer versions of ubuntu hadn't this error... Using asus f5 x50m model, amd turion 64(mobile thechnilogy mk - 36), 1GB of rams, NV geforceGo 6100. [13:24] pedro_, ping [13:24] hggdh: hello [13:25] hi, good morning... a question: are you running Evolution 2.23.90? [13:26] pedro_, ^^ [13:26] hggdh: sadly, yes [13:26] :-) [13:26] could you please click on Help/Report a Problem? [13:26] It deleted my a big part of my emails :-/ [13:26] s/my/me [13:26] same here... [13:26] hggdh: let me try [13:27] for me it does not open LP, and I was wondering if it is a screw-up on my side [13:28] blah is not working [13:28] AH! [13:28] OK, then I did not mess up my system :-) [13:28] I think this may have been due to the changes on LP [13:28] I get this on the CLI : [13:28] Usage: apport-gtk [options] [13:28] apport-gtk: error: no such option: --package evolution --pid 7919 [13:29] are you getting the same? [13:29] I did not get any output :-( [13:29] I will test again (I was prepping a change to 03_lpi.patch to take out bug buddy) [13:30] thank you, pedro_ . I will open a bug on this later this evening (now I have to get to my contract) [13:31] hggdh: you're welcome, thanks for let me know about it ;-) [13:32] just for grins, I ran apport-gtk --help -- it may be that it is now required to have the equal sign on long options (--package=evolution --pid=xxxx) [14:20] I'm looking for some help with hunting down enough information to report a bug. My issue is described in a LaunchPad question currently (https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+question/38900), but I think the larger issue has gone beyond the question. [14:22] * lumn0t prods the channel. [14:25] Hello? Hello? [14:27] hmm, maybe everybody is out to lunch :-) [14:27] I'm trying to file a bug against dhclient, but it's saying "There is no package name 'dhclient' published in Ubuntu" [14:27] Even though when I click "Choose" it lists dhclient as an option [14:27] It says "not uploaded" underneat dhclient [14:27] Anyone know how / where I file the bug? [14:28] dhcp3-client [14:28] dhcp3-client [14:28] * LaserJock ^5s ogra [14:28] :) [14:28] :) [14:29] Responses! Horrah! [14:30] Oh dear, I've just realised, I'm using NetworkManager 0.7, perhaps that's the issue... [14:30] Hmm [14:30] No, it's not, I tested that already I think... [14:31] Problem: GNOME settings seem borked. Two obvious symptoms of this are gnome-power-manager had issues and GNOME themes will not apply. This is being discussed in a LaunchPad question (https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-power-manager/+question/38900). [14:32] yeah, that's pretty funky [14:32] Not sure what package to file a bug against. [14:33] seb128 or pedro_ would probably be good people to ask [14:34] Is privmsg the best way to direct this, then? [14:34] lumn0t: for the GNOME Themes issue is gnome-settings-daemon running? [14:34] is a known issue that it's crashing quite a lot [14:34] Ah. [14:35] that could be why the themes are not being applied [14:35] for the gnome-power-manager tedg is the right person since he's the maintainer ;-) [14:35] gnome-settings-daemon is indeed running. [14:35] he should be online shortly [14:36] lumn0t: are you running Intrepid or Hardy? [14:46] Hmm. [14:46] gnome-settings-daemon does seem to be the culprit. Reinstalling the package has brought themes back. [14:49] well reinstalling it shouldn't make any difference, unless your installation was broken [14:50] we don't have any bugs regarding that and the only issues with themes are in Intrepid with some g-s-d crashes [14:50] pedro_: it seems to be a problem in a 8.04-> latest updates [14:50] that question has at least 3-4 Hardy users with the same problem, I'd suspect a bad SRU [14:51] ..er.. Yes. But the installation was *not* broken before some relatively recent update. I was hoping to help find what it was that broke both gnome-power-management and gnome-settings-manager. [14:51] could be but there's no new g-s-d package since april [14:52] s/april/may [14:52] * pedro_ looking at the sru list [14:56] * lumn0t wonders where the sru list is. [14:56] lumn0t: http://people.ubuntu.com/~sbeattie/sru_todo.html [14:57] And I'm curious that if there was some common cause to both gnome-power-manager and gnome-settings-daemon getting squirrelly, if something else may have been affected that I have not noticed yet. [15:02] I don't recall when I first saw the symptoms, but the LaunchPad question was opened 7-11, so the update that may have caused the issue dates from before then. [15:16] Would something that affected gnome-settings-daemon have affected the "configuration defaults" for gnome-power-manager that the reinstall of g-p-m resolved? === lumn0t is now known as lumn0t_ === lumn0t_ is now known as lumn0t [16:02] Boo [16:04] bee [16:05] i have an issue with hotkey-setup on hardy 64bit, which loosely relates to bug #33045 [16:05] Launchpad bug 33045 in hotkey-setup "'Special keys' on HP Pavillion DV4000" [Medium,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/33045 [16:06] could i possibly get some help with this issue ? i need to know how to edit /usr/share/hotkey-setup/hp.hk file, so it works on my laptop, and doesnt cause crashes (like it currently does) [16:26] Hugday is on the wiki! [16:27] * Awsoonn runs before the tomatoes are thrown === mvo_ is now known as mvo === mcas is now known as mcas_away [19:16] james_w: do you know something about "No handlers could be found for logger 'bzr'"? [20:02] huh. I just got the notice that bug 259311 was marked as a dup of bug 250506. Why is that? [20:02] Launchpad bug 259311 in ubuntu "Movie player - no codecs to play DVD(winthout encryption)and mp3 (dup-of: 250506)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/259311 [20:02] Launchpad bug 250506 in consolekit "shutdown and restart act as logout" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250506 [20:07] afflux: its in the activity log [20:08] oh, well. I didn't see that it actually wasn't marked anymore. Woops :) [20:08] it was quick! 10 seconds [20:09] isn't that minutes? [20:09] minutes / seconds - whatever ;) [20:09] yup, quick anyway ;) [20:17] Im not an IRC guru - how do I snipe what chans hes on? [20:19] nullack: /whois should be enough, assuming he doesn't have the +i (invisible) usermode on. [20:19] Ping Ampelbein : Thanks for your email I got mixed up with bugs Im sorting it out. The particular bug is a wontfix, its by design a non issue [20:24] Note that even +i people can be found if they share channels in common with the person running /whois [20:24] nullack: oh, ok. just saw the mail and thought i'd quickly set duplicate status, haven't checked anymore. will do that next time. [20:24] Its not duplicate - I was suffering from multiple bug syndrome and made an error Im fixing it [20:27] got that. happens sometimes. [20:44] bdmurray: your ~/.bzr.log is probably not writeable for your user [20:45] it's a pain to try and give a better message for though, as it's a library that gives the warning, and doesn't give much indication when it has. [20:46] james_w: but it is! unless cron needs different permissions [20:48] bdmurray: it may be something else then, but that's the usual reason for the message [20:48] this is your users crontab, and you're not sudoing? [20:48] i.e. the process is run as your user? [20:48] james_w: it's weird because I'm not even using bzr [20:48] oh, what are you using? [20:49] its, just a bash script and python script [20:49] bdmurray: but python-launchpad-bugs tries to determine what version it is via bzrlib [20:49] I'll pastebinit [20:49] sbeattie: ah, winner! [20:50] sbeattie: did you fix it? [20:50] does it exec() bzr for that? [20:52] looks like it import bzrlib.branch [20:52] bdmurray: no, that's as far as I got in digging into the problem. [20:52] I wouldn't have thought that this triggered that message, but I may well be wrong [20:55] james_w: Do you have any ideas then? [20:56] bdmurray: did you look in your .bzr.log file on rookery? [20:56] bdmurray: no, sorry, I'm a bit stumped [20:57] I've only ever seen this be a permission error === Hurtz_ is now known as Hurtz === Hurtz is now known as Hurtz_ [21:00] There is a message about using 'bzr upgrade' for bughelper [21:01] james_w: I get it the same message, even though it successfully wrote to to my .bzr.log [21:02] bdmurray: mine contains nice tracebacks from each run because it's trying to do bzr operations on the cwd, which for me was $HOME and thus contains no bzr metadata. [21:04] Odd: 0.089 Plugin name __init__ already loaded [21:05] that's odd [21:06] well, the last message happens on every run, but the rest is odd [21:12] james_w: note that this is showing up on rookery, which is a dapper install. [21:12] but it now has bzr 1.6 I think [21:14] sbeattie: I noticed the same thing on cranberry though [21:14] which is hardy [21:14] bug 131846 from the hug day list is an intersting one [21:14] Launchpad bug 131846 in gnome-panel "run as doesn't include all folders used in $PATH" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131846 [21:15] I've seen a duplicate of that [21:15] the reporter says that gnome-panel ignores their $PATH env variable when it is defined in ~/.bashrc [21:15] i have a customised $PATH defined in /etc/environment, and it uses that [21:15] bdmurray: curious. I don't see it on my hardy machine. [21:15] so i'm wondering if it's actually a bug in gnome-panel [21:15] sbeattie: are you up to bzr 1.6 though? [21:16] nope [21:17] I'm eating distro dogfood not bzr dogfood. [21:18] chrisccoulson: oh, that's the bug I'm thinking of ;) [21:18] I can recreate it [21:19] how do you set your $PATH environment? Do you define it in ~/.bashrc too? [21:19] oh, my .zshrc [21:19] :) [21:19] but it's in my ~/.bashrc too fwiw [21:19] zsh FTW. [21:21] i'll try modifying another users .bashrc on my machine in a bit and see if i can recreate it too. but gnome-panel searches all of the folders in my $PATH environment, which is defined in /etc/environment (so I've done it a bit different to you) [21:21] that might mean it isn't a bug in gnome-panel [21:22] for example, i have a load of apps installed in /opt/bin. i can run them no problem by pressing ALT+F2 and typing the program name, so I'm not seeing this issue [21:37] bdmurray: referrring to bug 131846 again - i think the issue because /bin/sh (symlinked to /bin/dash) is the shell used when the session loads. Dash appears to ignore ~/.bashrc when it loads, which would explain why gnome-panel doesn't search the full $PATH on your machine, but does search it on mine (because I have $PATH defined elsewhere). [21:37] Launchpad bug 131846 in gnome-panel "run as doesn't include all folders used in $PATH" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131846 [21:37] i'#ve just tried it here by modifying my bashrc. after i've modified $PATH and launch a new bash shell, the new $PATH takes effect. if i then exit and launch dash, it doesn't take effect [21:39] If I start dash and echo $PATH I see /home/brian/bin there [21:39] hmmmm, that's strange [21:39] do you start dash from within a bash session which already has the environment set correctly? [21:40] yeah, I guess that isn't right [21:41] what you could do is launch a terminal (bash), then clear your $PATH environment by typing (PATH=""). once you've done this, launch dash using '/bin/dash' and then inspect the environment [21:42] actually, that doesn't behave as expected. $PATH is still empty after loading dash [21:42] a better way of verifying it might be to temporarily set the /bin/sh sym-link back to /bin/bash. i'll try that on my intrepid VM in a bit === mcas_away is now known as mcas [21:45] chrisccoulson: you probably want /bin/dash -l [21:47] though that's not reading /etc/environment here. [21:49] thanks for the clarification sbeattie [21:53] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/260208 [21:53] there :p [21:53] Launchpad bug 260208 in ubuntu "Numlock not working at gdm login (Intrepid)" [Undecided,New] [21:53] a fresh bug :p [21:56] sbeattie / bdmurray - i can confirm on intrepid that dash ignores the ~/.bashrc file. i set my users shell to /bin/dash, and when I open gnome-terminal, by customised entries are not there. however, if I launch a bash shell, they all appear there [21:56] i'll re-assign that bug from gnome-panel to dash, if we want dash to look at ~/.bashrc [21:56] I don't think that is right [21:57] which bit? [21:57] reassinging it [21:57] I'd ask seb128 about as he is probably most familiar with the package and our diff from upstream [21:58] no problem. i had a quick look in the source for gnome-panel, and it does appear to correctly search $PATH when it launches an application. the problem is that it's environment isn't correct as it is spawned from dash [22:00] i'll catch seb128 when he's on here next and speak to him about it. === mcas is now known as mcas_away [22:48] hi there, need support if possible for my crash for compiz,real after a few seconds on boot on desktop- have 8800gt, 8.10 alpha4 [22:48] nvidia official driver ver 177