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| persia | So, I'm working on a new ubuntu-mid-default-settings package that will replace ume-config-* for intrepid. | 10:10 |
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| persia | Basically, I'm presuming that xinput hotplug should be doing the right thing for intrepid, so we really only need the startup and shutdown stuff. | 10:11 |
| persia | Some of the environment creation stuff will become the responsibility of the installer. | 10:11 |
| persia | Also, looking at the moblin-applets package, it seems to do very policy-incompliant with gconf: if anyone can sort that out to work for arbitratily named users, it would be great. | 10:12 |
| lool | persia: The gconf defaults mechanism in dh_gconf is not user specific, that would be a good option | 10:12 |
| persia | lool: Sounds good. Is that something you have time to chase? | 10:13 |
| lool | Depends for when it's due :-) | 10:13 |
| lool | Another thing I noticed is that moblin-applets is using the /desktop/gnome namespace | 10:13 |
| lool | There might be a good reason for that such as relying on the real GNOME applets to change the keys | 10:14 |
| persia | I wouldn't think that changes to the postinst to be policy compliant would violate FeatureFreeze, so we ought be safe there. | 10:17 |
| persia | That said, I'd only extremely limited understanding of why it's doing what it's doing. | 10:17 |
| lool | persia: I poked dev@moblin.org on this stuff; I fear we're putting the finger in "cleaning up GConf key usage" across moblin | 10:26 |
| lool | persia: What I fear is that we approach feature freeze and hildon related changes to Ubuntu main packages end up being considered feature additions | 10:26 |
| persia | That makes sense. I don't think we can clean everything for intrepid, but I don't think anyone else uses moblin-applets, so it ought be OK. | 10:27 |
| persia | In other words, as long as the chances of breaking anything for anyone else are nil, and we're dealing with something so incredibly messy in one of our packages, I think it will make our lives easier to fix it. | 10:28 |
| lool | persia: I'll try to remember to move these to dh_gconf | 10:33 |
| lool | persia: Did you rename ume-config-common already? Are you aware it's an upstream module? | 10:33 |
| persia | I wasn't renaming, so much as dropping it entirely in favour of something else. I wasn't aware it was an upstream module. | 10:36 |
| persia | My specific rationale is that I don't think that we get any useful benefits from hardcoding each config: it essentially means that we can't create images that work properly on arbitrary hardware, | 10:37 |
| lool | persia: Anyway, I agree it should die; I just mention it FYI | 10:38 |
| persia | lool: OK. I was afraid you had some reason to keep it. | 10:39 |
| ogra | you guys want global gconf changes ? why dont you do them in /usr/share/gconf/defaults/ ? | 10:44 |
| ogra | (thats why my gnome MID desktop will do at least, i think we use it stadardized in the main distro as well) | 10:45 |
| persia | ogra: I thought you were working on ubuntu-mobile, not ubuntu-mid. Am I mistaken? | 10:55 |
| ogra | no, i still get the wording wrong :) | 10:56 |
| ogra | though what i understood from davidm was that he wants me to do http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/ume/ | 10:57 |
| ogra | which is definately closer to -mid atm | 10:57 |
| persia | Hrm. I thought we were using hildon again for -mid, and using that for -mobile. We definitely need to block out and document the featureset better next cycle. | 10:58 |
| ogra | definately | 10:58 |
| ogra | but next cycle we wont be busy with merges and PPA moving for 2/3 of the development time | 10:59 |
| ogra | and we will be able to write proper specs in advance | 10:59 |
| persia | Well, there's that. Also, next cycle we'll get to start at the beginning, rather than having our release be well after UDS. | 11:00 |
| ogra | right | 11:00 |
| lool | ogra: That's where we intend to have them | 11:16 |
| persia | OK. I lose. I wanted to make the system not depend on the username, but without depending on the username, we can't autologin. | 11:16 |
| persia | That said, I'd like to change the username from "ume" to "ubuntu". Any objections? | 11:16 |
| lool | ogra: dh_gconf is the best way to put them in /usr/share/gconf/defaults | 11:16 |
| ogra | ah, i usually just put the file with keys/values in there and run update-gconf-defauls :) | 11:18 |
| ogra | i bet thats what dh_gconf does in postinst then | 11:18 |
| ogra | persia, since ubuntu is what we use on the liveCD that sounds fine | 11:18 |
| lool | ogra: Putting the files and running update-gconf-defaults is what dh_gconf does! | 11:18 |
| lool | But then you must have missed its introduction as both tools were written at the same time | 11:19 |
| ogra | heh | 11:19 |
| ogra | i didnt do that from packages since ages :) | 11:19 |
| ogra | (its about a year ago that i touched edubuntu-artwork last, which does these settings for edubuntu ... in the classmate the installer puts the file in place and calls the command) | 11:20 |
| * ogra-Q1 hates daily disconnects | 11:54 | |
| ogra-Q1 | wow, cellwriter really makes a good kbd | 11:54 |
| persia | ogra-Q1: screenshot? | 11:56 |
| davmor2 | ogra-Q1: isn't it cellwriter that is predictive or is that something else? | 11:56 |
| * ogra-Q1 is in "eat your own dogfood" mode today | 11:56 | |
| ogra-Q1 | davmor2, cw is actually writing recognition... but comes with an internationalized kbd as well | 11:58 |
| davmor2 | ogra-Q1: okay cool :) | 11:58 |
| ogra-Q1 | the o ly drawback is that it sts on top with metacity | 11:59 |
| ogra-Q1 | persia, http://people.ubuntu.com/~ogra/cellwriter.png | 12:04 |
| persia | ogra-Q1: Looking very nice indeed :) | 12:05 |
| ogra-Q1 | with a bitmore trainig and better screen calibration i could rellally type like with any other kbd | 12:06 |
| ogra-Q1 | i got relly fast within 10 mins of usage | 12:06 |
| lool | Meeting in 5 mns in #ubuntu-meeting | 12:54 |
| lool | Meeting starting soon in #ubuntu-meeting | 12:59 |
| emgent | lool: ok thanks | 13:04 |
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| nxvl | good afternoon | 22:56 |
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