[00:09] <frodo_> is anyone using the x64 version?
[00:13] <burner> nope
[00:13] <frodo_> i figured
[00:13]  * burner rocks intrepid but i'm not bleeding edge enough for x64
[00:13] <frodo_> x64 is doomed
[00:15] <timboy> I am having an issue with shutdown. it doesn't work when I press the button...
[00:15] <cskmax> 250506
[00:16] <frodo_> 250507
[00:16] <timboy> 250508
[00:16] <cskmax> bug #250506
[00:16] <frodo_> lolz
[00:17] <cskmax> hee hee, yes, you can use "sudo shutdown" in a console as a workaround
[00:40] <timboy> I'm getting this on boot? should I be worried? mkdir: cannot create directory '/lib/modules/2.6.26-4-generic/volatile/':read only file system
[00:42] <Jordan_U> timboy: It's a known bug, it should be fixed soon ( if you need madwifi drivers they won't work until it's fixed )
[00:42] <timboy> Jordan_U ok cool just making sure it wasn't just me. :)
[00:43] <timboy> glad to see that the java install now asks for license acceptance in a gui and not in console!
[00:50] <hischild> Greetings channel.
[01:32] <hischild> How's the support of virtualbox?
[01:33] <zniavre> in panic
[01:35] <hischild> zniavre: for real?
[01:36] <zniavre> still kernel panic yes for the last kernel (can't remember number sorry) at least yesterday night
[01:37] <hischild> Hmm.
[01:37] <zniavre> i can start it with old kernel of hardy 2.6.24-x
[01:38] <zniavre> im quite sure it's virtualbox bug
[01:38] <hischild> well i just installed it ... let's hope my box'll stay alive
[01:39] <zniavre> are you ask for virtualbox running intrepid or running virtualbox in intrepid ?   :o)
[01:40] <zniavre> are/do *
[01:40] <hischild> that would be virtualbox in intrepid, not intrepid in virtualbox
[01:42] <hischild> although it's complaining about not having a suitable module for running kernel ... so guess i'm out of luck
[01:43] <zniavre> ok sorry so i do not know  you could try the .deb of sun virtualbox website no?
[01:43] <hischild> Yes i could, but i prefer to try and use the software repo's.
[01:46] <zniavre> if they works ... :o)
[01:46] <hischild> I'll see what it turns out tomorrow. It's time for some sleep. Thank ou for your help. BB
[01:47] <zniavre> see you
[01:49] <DanaG> I can use the non-OSE Virtualbox just fine.
[01:49] <DanaG> Just needs dkms installed.
[01:53] <zniavre> some bodys knows if nautilus wil be 2.24 ? and if it will support rgba ?
[02:16] <cskmax> zniavre:   Candidate: 1:2.23.90-0ubuntu1 is what I see for nautilus currently
[02:17] <cskmax> zniavre: i am not sure what the release will use frankly, but that's what's in the repos right now
[02:30] <Volkodav> Is there wmv 9 codecs out there?
[02:31] <Volkodav> I have wmv hd video but no sound ?
[02:33] <RAOF> wmv is video only; your sound problem isn't to do with VC-1 (wmv3, aka WM9) codec support.
[02:33] <RAOF> Does playing in Totem suggest a plugin to install?
[02:35] <Volkodav> yes it does
[02:36] <Volkodav> but does not find anything though
[02:38] <Volkodav> any solution to it ?
[02:38] <Volkodav> I tried Mac but it won't mount ext3 partition for some reason
[02:38] <Volkodav> it mouns one out of 3 I have
[02:39] <RAOF> Volkodav: I'd need to know what audio codec it's using before being able to help more.  Unless _sound_ isn't working at all for you, of course.
[02:40] <Volkodav> I have sound working in all apps all around
[02:40] <RAOF> And other videos have sound?
[02:40] <RAOF> I don't suppose this video just doesn't have a soundtrack? :)
[02:40] <Volkodav> it does of course
[02:41] <Volkodav> mplayer says 0x162
[02:41] <RAOF> _mplayer_ doesn't play the sound, though+?
[02:41] <Volkodav> nope
[02:42] <Volkodav> xine says unsupported codec Windoze Media Audio v3 (0x16)
[02:42] <RAOF> I'ts possible the file's just broken, but I don't think you'll be able to get it to play.
[02:42] <RAOF> It would appear that nothing supports that codec.
[02:43] <RAOF> Oh.  You could actually buy a gstreamer element that supports it, probably.  From fluendo.
[02:43] <Volkodav> I am copying it to windoze partiton and check it there
[02:43] <Volkodav> cuz it is rather large file and there is a chance it is borked
[02:43] <Volkodav> 7.8 gb
[02:44] <Volkodav> HD 720p
[02:44] <RAOF> They have the patent licenses etc needed to write and distribute a variety of nice codecs legally.
[02:44] <Volkodav> well if I boot in windoze I should be able to dl all them codecs though /
[02:49] <mneptok> Volkodav: did you install the ubuntu-restricted-extras metapackage?
[02:50] <Volkodav> I believe so
[02:50] <mneptok> if you try installing it again you'll know for sure
[02:50] <Volkodav> o
[02:50] <Volkodav> ok
[02:56] <Volkodav> well all -restricted-extras  are installed and still no sound
[02:56] <Volkodav> I guess it is just winblows crap
[02:59] <DanaG> argh, durn iscsitarget keeps oops'ing.
[03:37] <Lunks> What do you see? http://www.frappr.com/
[03:37] <Lunks> It says 'Please install flash 8' for me
[03:37] <DanaG> I get the same thing on many sites.
[03:43] <Lunks> Really weird. Looks like some flash testing javascript is broken for flash 10. :P
[03:45] <Lunks> Hmm not javascript, probably a actionscript or something, as it is indeed a flash file which outputs it.
[03:48]  * DanaG laughs at how some sites can't do math.
[03:48] <DanaG> 10 < 8, apparently.
[04:31] <bytor4232> So, is the immediate problem of PAM out of the way?
[04:34] <RAOF> Yes
[05:02] <voidmage> so an interesting bug
[05:02] <voidmage> if i logout with a tomboy note open
[05:02] <voidmage> it gets deleted
[07:29] <DanaG> !find phonon.desktop
[07:30] <DanaG> What's up with that Wikipedia thing in amarok-kde4?
[07:30] <DanaG> I don't want it.
[07:30] <DanaG> ANd there's no "play folder" feature anymore.
[07:30] <DanaG> !find kcm_style
[08:03] <estunecle> how to upgrade to 8.10? cuz sudo apt-get dist-upgrade found nothing to upgrade
[08:05] <estunecle> ah i forgot to enable 8.10 repo
[08:08] <mvo> estunecle: you can run "do-release-upgrade -d"
[08:09] <estunecle> and dont need to even enable 8.10 repo with this command?
[08:12] <estunecle> downloaded daily build and it failed to boot hanging at busybox prompt. this busybox hangs are in ubuntu since like 7.04 version :(
[08:12] <estunecle> it seems 8.10 will not be different
[08:21] <verwilst> another satisfied customer
[08:36] <hischild> Hello. I'd like to know if there's a pre-built wine version available or that the one in the repo's is the latest one.
[09:04] <s0u][ight> hi guys
[09:21] <DanaG> Yo, I want to have a script do this: for every line in some file, call some command:
[09:22] <DanaG> command arg1 $THAT_LINE (as in, THAT_LINE is the name of the variable I want to pass, without dollar sign.)
[09:23] <DanaG> Anybody know how to do that?
[09:23] <Xemanth> does Catalyst 8.8 work in Intrepid ?
[09:23] <Xemanth> any patches to fix issues?
[09:25] <DanaG> oh, I see... I can use 'for X in Y' instead of xargs.
[09:25] <RAOF> Xemanth: No, and no.
[09:26] <RAOF> Catalyst doesn't work, because it doesn't support the X video driver ABI v2.1.  And we can't patch the driver, so there's no fixing it.
[09:26] <Xemanth> ok nice
[09:26] <Xemanth> :|
[09:26] <Xemanth> just bought 780G board with Radeon HD 3200 :D
[09:26] <RAOF> The open-source driver should do 2D reasonably well for that.
[09:27] <s0u][ight> ati just sucks
[09:27] <RAOF> Xemanth: That's r500?  Or r600?.
[09:27] <Xemanth> r600
[09:28] <RAOF> Hm.  If you want to play the git-mesa fandango I believe there's open-source 3d kinda-support in mesa :)
[09:28] <RAOF> But new(ish) hardware sucks, yes.
[09:29] <Xemanth> ok then I'll install 64-bit Hardy.
[09:30] <RAOF> That's your winner!
[09:31] <DanaG> I'm going to be getting an ATI HD3650 some time in September.
[09:31] <RAOF> That's r700, right?  There's work in a gallium tree to support them, IIRC.
[09:34] <Xemanth> 3650 is r600 too
[09:34] <Xemanth> r700 is 4850 an 4870
[09:34] <Xemanth> right ?
[09:35] <DanaG> Yeah.
[09:36] <DanaG> argh, tlsup doesn't give hotkey events on the old laptop I have around here.
[09:37] <DanaG> Or rather, maybe it does...
[09:37] <DanaG> but HAL doesn't give the device to Xorg.
[09:37] <DanaG> I think I'll file a bug on that, but not right now.
[09:56] <DanaG> Odd, that tlsup is buggy....
[09:56] <DanaG> it registers only a 'button' capability, and no hal rules use just 'button'.
[10:16] <XVampireX> Is it just me or the new theme is really shitty?
[10:17] <XVampireX> from screenshots
[10:18] <LSD|Ninja> XVampireX: the dark brown one? Don't worry, it's not permanent
[10:18] <XVampireX> Yeah, the dark brown...
[10:19] <XVampireX> when 8.10 comes it will have a better theme?
[10:23] <LSD|Ninja> XVampireX: They're taking submissions as we IRC
[10:24] <XVampireX> Wait, it's a theme competition now?
[10:37] <DanaG> (WW) tlsup: Toshiba Fn Hotkeys: Don't know how to use device
[10:37] <DanaG> argh!
[10:55] <vistakiller> ibex will switch to 2.6.27 Kernel?
[10:55] <vistakiller> i have just read this
[10:55] <vistakiller> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjY2Nw
[10:57] <RAOF> Man, that's a totally awesome bug.  gnome-power-manager crashes each time the percentage battery charge changes.
[10:59] <DanaG> Another random feature:
[10:59] <DanaG> the toshbia_acpi module that relied on the broken-but-relatively-easily-fixable acpi_fakekey... has been removed.
[10:59] <DanaG> Now there's a plain input driver, tlsup... which Xorg refuses to use.
[11:19] <DanaG> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/+bug/137247
[11:19] <DanaG> argh!
[11:31] <DanaG> wtf... dvd drive can't read dvd+rw?
[11:31] <DanaG> Grrr.
[11:32] <doggymenz> i want aquarium water in my compiz cube
[11:33] <doggymenz> and i want rotate window in 3d
[11:33] <doggymenz> sometimes my computer goes crazy scrolling mouse, anyone know why?
[11:48] <yao_ziyuan> does anyone really burn intrepiad alpha4?
[11:50] <doggymenz> no, i use update
[11:50] <doggymenz> dist-upgrade
[12:08] <Xemanth> i burned kubuntu alpha 4 desktop 64-bit
[12:08] <Xemanth> and installation was full or errors
[12:08] <Xemanth> couldn't install it at all
[12:09] <Xemanth> cd files chows no errors at all and iso image's md5sum was ok
[12:12] <PolitikerALT> hmm ... IMHO kubuntu doesn't work quite well yet - use ubuntu
[12:13] <Xemanth> yes i noticed
[12:13] <Xemanth> ^^
[13:52] <Bodsda> regel, hey :)
[13:52] <regel> hey :)
[13:52] <Bodsda> is there a way to do it?
[13:52] <regel> so, u want to try the Intrepid ?
[13:53] <regel> you cant reinstall and keep the apps
[13:53] <Bodsda> ive got the intrepid cd, and want to install it, overwriting my 8.04 but keeping my installed aps
[13:53] <Bodsda> oh
[13:54] <regel> you could upgrade hardy (not sure if it works, though)
[13:54] <Bodsda> ive tried, my machine freezes
[13:54] <regel> but fresh install is always recommended when upgrading
[13:54] <Bodsda> yeah
[13:55] <regel> u could tho backup your $HOME -folder, so all the settings would be safe
[13:55] <Bodsda> ive got a seperate /home partition
[13:55] <regel> but not all config-files are compatible with newer versions
[13:55] <regel> ok
[13:55] <regel> then you just dont format it
[13:55] <Bodsda> yeah
[13:55] <Bodsda> but thats not where my installed applications are
[13:56] <regel> have you installed them via ubuntu-repository?
[13:56] <Bodsda> yes
[13:56] <regel> and you have an internet connection?
[13:57] <Bodsda> yes
[13:58] <regel> you might be able to get a list of installed apps (some sort of command) and then just reinstall them
[13:58] <regel> but it takes a while to download the,
[13:58] <regel> *them
[13:58] <Bodsda> its the (some sort of command) that i'm after :)
[13:58] <regel> okay, let me see
[13:59] <regel> dpkg -l \*
[13:59] <regel> does hat print some sort of list?
[13:59] <regel> *that
[13:59] <Bodsda> yes
[13:59] <Bodsda> the second column is the app name
[13:59] <regel> oh, but that list unistalled too
[13:59] <regel> dpkg -l
[14:00] <regel> that list installed apps
[14:00] <regel> and packages
[14:00] <Sharpie> flash content makes firefox either slow down (sometimes to a halt) or crash immediately (with flashplugin-nonfree). is this common or is it only me?
[14:01] <Bodsda> that issue is experienced with hardy aswell
[14:01] <Bodsda> not to such extremes though
[14:01] <Sharpie> it's not nearly as bad though
[14:01] <Sharpie> yeah lol
[14:02] <Bodsda> Sharpie, try running FF from the terminal to get error messages
[14:02] <regel> dpkg --get-selections
[14:02] <regel> that's the one
[14:02] <regel> dpkg --get-selections >> installed_packages.txt
[14:02] <regel> hmm
[14:03] <Bodsda> regel, that would also print a column of the word 'install'
[14:03] <regel> then you need to replace the "install" word with ""
[14:03] <regel> with gedit
[14:03] <regel> i did this once, let mee think
[14:04] <regel> ok, open with gedit
[14:04] <regel> and Ctrl+H
[14:04] <Bodsda> yah i can do the replace
[14:04] <regel> search for word  install      and replace it with nothing
[14:04] <Bodsda> but how can i then use this list to install apps on the new install?
[14:05] <regel> "replace all"
[14:05] <regel> sudo apt-get install *pastes the list here*
[14:05] <regel> :)
[14:05] <Bodsda> thats nasty :)
[14:05] <regel> there will be some packages whick dont exist
[14:05] <regel> and they have to be removed from the list
[14:05] <regel> but otherwise it worked with gutsy->hardy
[14:05] <Bodsda> ok cheers
[14:06] <Sharpie> does anybody know when virtualbox kernel modules will be released?
[14:06] <Sharpie> having to go back to hardy every time i need windows is annoying
[14:07] <regel> Bodsda, you need to get then to same line though
[14:08] <Bodsda> regel, yeah, i can use python and regex to do everything i think, cheers
[14:10] <regel> Bodsda, nope
[14:10] <regel> Bodsda, theen replace in gedit "\n"
[14:10] <Bodsda> regel, id prefer to use python, its moire fun :)
[14:11] <Bodsda> more*
[14:11] <regel> yea :)
[14:24] <Skiessi> hey, after this recent libpam upgrade I haven't been able to login on my main pc
[14:25] <Skiessi> and in recovery root shell, ifconfig looks ok but apt-get update kinda fails to connect to anywhere
[14:27] <Skiessi> any suggestions for fixing this? or is this channel atm. just for watching people ask stupid questions?
[14:27] <Bodsda> Skiessi, can you ping your router? can you ping a sites ip? can you ping www.google.com?
[14:27] <Skiessi> unknown host
[14:27] <Bodsda> when you did what?
[14:27] <Skiessi> ping www.google.com
[14:27] <Skiessi> now I check the others
[14:28] <Skiessi> and btw, ctrl-c doesn't work
[14:28] <Bodsda> its not registering keyboard interupts... hhmm
[14:29] <Skiessi> it does write ^C but it's not what I'm expecting
[14:29] <Bodsda> can you ping 64.233.169.103           <-- googles ip
[14:30] <Skiessi> nope, it's still pinging 127.0.0.1... I had to try that
[14:30] <Skiessi> so I have to reboot?
[14:30] <Bodsda> ctrl+z ctrl+d ??
[14:30] <Bodsda> drop to a different tty
[14:31] <Skiessi> there's just the ctrl-alt-1 one
[14:31] <Skiessi> others are black
[14:31] <Bodsda> sounds extremely borked to me, sorry i dont know what to suggest (im not an alpha tester)
[14:31] <Skiessi> ctrl-z does ^Z
[14:31] <Skiessi> okay
[14:32] <Skiessi> but these recovery shell bugs are not new ones
[14:33]  * Skiessi reboots
[14:35] <Skiessi> after reboot pinging that google ip works
[14:35]  * Skiessi reboots again
[14:36] <Sharpie> when i first installed 8.20 it booted in about 19-20 seconds
[14:36] <Sharpie> now it takes about 40
[14:36] <Skiessi> ping probably has an option for choosing the amount of pinging attempts
[14:37] <Bodsda> ping -n 10 xxx.xxx.x.xx
[14:37] <Skiessi> ok thanks
[14:37] <Bodsda> ping --help  for more info
[14:41] <Skiessi> looks like it's ping -c 10 xxx.xxx.x.xx
[14:41] <Bodsda> oops sorry yeah
[14:41] <Bodsda> -n is winbugs
[14:41] <Skiessi> pinging google works, apt-get update still doesn't
[14:42] <Bodsda> you can ping goolgles ip or its domain?
[14:42] <Bodsda> googles*
[14:43] <Skiessi> ip
[14:43] <Bodsda> ok, you cant ping the domain?
[14:43] <Skiessi> just the ip
[14:43] <Bodsda> have you got any dns's assigned?
[14:44] <Skiessi> how do I check that?
[14:46] <Bodsda> Skiessi, i have no idea
[14:46] <Bodsda> not from cli anyway
[14:48] <Skiessi> nslookup possibly
[14:48] <Skiessi> or resolvconf
[14:52] <Skiessi> I can't use them :|
[14:57] <Skiessi> _o_O/ I can apt-get update by replacing archive.ubuntu.com with 91.189.88.45 in sources.list
[14:58] <Skiessi> !info tasksel
[15:02] <Skiessi> "dpkg: 2 expected program(s) not found on PATH"
[15:03] <Skiessi> "NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin."
[15:04] <Skiessi> this looks like a bit easier problem
[15:05] <Skiessi> :o
[15:05] <Skiessi> :| I have the whole weekend to wait for an answer
[15:12] <XVampireX> Uhm, is intrepid rather stable enough to try?
[15:32] <IdleOne> XVampireX, only if you feel comfortable with total system failure ( as a possibility )
[15:39] <Skiessi> but you get many new FEATURES
[15:42] <regel> it would time for me to start translating and testing Intrepid, but I need to know what kind of major bugs there are.
[15:43] <regel> system freezes, gui not working or something like that.
[15:45] <Pici> IdleOne: I usually use apt-get to update/upgrade, but I do notice that I get the 'new upgrades available' icon after I apt-get update, I never wait for it to trigger automatically though.
[15:46] <IdleOne> Pici, I have been using the update-manager GUI and I have not been getting the icon for atleast a week now
[15:46] <IdleOne> I was getting the same behavior as you with the icon but not anymore
[15:47] <IdleOne> also can not seem to boot into the latest kernel -25 is it
[15:47] <IdleOne> get a black screen after login window
[15:48] <Pici> I have not had that issue
[15:48] <Pici> With Gnome..
[15:48] <IdleOne> strange because I normally don't have any major problems with +1
[15:49] <IdleOne> but that was with my old desktop this laptop is a little more headaches for me
[15:49] <IdleOne> running Gnome also
[15:50] <IdleOne> wish we could get support for  Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[15:50] <IdleOne> there is a work around out there but it's a pain
[15:57] <IdleOne> you think I would be able to find that howto for my wireless ;/
[16:23] <Carroarmato0> I'm getting an error when updating Alpha 4, "Could not download all repository indexes"  I use a Belgian repo mirror and get a Hash Sum mismatch for main and universe.
[16:24] <Carroarmato0> Something to worry about or should I select another mirror?
[16:24] <IdleOne> Carroarmato0, use a diff mirror or weait for yours to be updated
[16:24] <IdleOne> wait*
[16:24] <Carroarmato0> IdleOne: kk I'll select a different one
[16:25] <Carroarmato0> IdleOne: thx
[16:25] <IdleOne> don't forget to sudo apt-get update the sources.list
[16:25] <IdleOne> np
[16:25] <Carroarmato0> IdleOne: sure thing
[16:26] <ramvi> ﻿[CALL FOR HELP] Can someone help me with customizing a livecd / making Ubuntu Eee 8.04.1. If you know what these words mean, please msg me! busybox, initrd.gz, casper
[16:28] <bazhang> ramvi, this should be in #ubuntu
[16:31] <Carroarmato0> Just a quick question, how the hell does Synaptic sort the packages when searching for something? The normal behavior in Hardy was to list alphabeticaly.
[16:32] <Carroarmato0> Besides that, Synaptic seems faster at looking up packages
[16:34] <asfak> adept manager does not work on kub alpha4
[16:35] <asfak> when i start adept manager from Konsole i get "
[16:35] <asfak> adept_manager
[16:35] <asfak> kapture::PkgSystem::PkgSystem()
[16:35] <asfak> adduser
[16:35] <asfak> debconf
[16:35] <asfak> sysklogd
[16:35] <asfak> snort-mysql
[16:35] <asfak> oinkmaster
[16:35] <asfak> adduser
[16:35] <asfak> debconf
[16:35] <asfak> sysklogd
[16:35] <asfak> snort-mysql
[16:35] <asfak> oinkmaster
[16:35] <asfak> KCrash: Application 'adept_manager' crashing...
[16:35] <asfak> KCrash cannot reach kdeinit, launching directly.
[16:36] <Pici> !paste
[16:37] <Carroarmato0> Anyone know if PPTP VPN works in Alpha 4?
[16:37] <asfak> sorry
[16:38] <JontheEchidna> asfak: update, there is a new version of adept that works
[16:39] <asfak> adept 3 is no user friendly. It's GUI is very confusing. Though that works, adept 2.1.3 is default in kubuntu Intrepid uptil now. I updated before few hours and no change
[16:41] <asfak> i had no choice but to use synaptic in Kubuntu. That's the best package manager i have seen. Adept 3 be better like this.
[16:42] <asfak> Booting and shutdown speed has improved
[16:47] <asfak> what version of amarok be default in Kubuntu Intrepid
[16:50] <Carroarmato0> asfak: not the answer to your question but Beta 1 of Amarok 2 has been released
[16:51] <Carroarmato0> asfak: so I guess when Kubuntu Intrepid will be released, Amarok 2 will be included
[16:57] <asfak> beta1 of amarok is installed
[16:58] <asfak> Carroarmato0, are u Kubuntu user ? If yes, could you access windows partition from dolphin as user ?
[16:59] <Carroarmato0> asfak: sorry I'm not. But if you can't access it, you should check the permissions.
[17:01] <Carroarmato0> asfak: you'll have to add your account name to what ever group controls access to your Windows partition, I think in my case I have to be part of the Fuse group
[17:03] <asfak> ubuntu user don't need to go aroung this fuss. Then why kubuntu user ? I am not power user. But this has happened in all kubuntu earlier version.
[17:04] <Carroarmato0> asfak: actually I too had to go through the fuss, but I think this depends on how you've selected the window partition during an install in the partitioning section
[17:04] <Carroarmato0> *windows
[17:05] <Carroarmato0> asfak: if during install you set the mount point /windows to your windows partition, you'll go through the fuss.
[17:09] <asfak> no, that's no matter. I have been using ubuntu since 4.10 and i don't make such mistake. In ubuntu live or install system, i can access all filesystem without all this permission stuff. But in Kubuntu, though i can see the partition in Dolphin as user, i cannot access them. I can do that as root. Kubuntu developers must change this permission making compulsion.
[17:09] <asfak> btw, amarok2 B1 rocks
[17:11] <Carroarmato0> asfak: did'nt the introduction of Fuse change these things? (btw gonna try amarok b1 cuz I finally want something more stable than the nightly builds I've been running :D)
[17:12] <asfak> i don't think... :(
[17:13] <Carroarmato0> asfak: anyway that has been my experience with Ubuntu for the last 3 years...
[17:16] <asfak> i hate Vistaism. i want system, install and ready to use. Ubuntu is perfect in that regards. But my preference for pure Kde system drives me to Kubuntu. Now if i installed kde desktop upon Ubuntu, i had no such filesystem problem, nor do my friends whom i gift linux CDs.
[17:19] <Carroarmato0> asfak: you should point that out to #kubuntu-devel
[17:20] <asfak> anyway one more problem with kubuntu. I hope developers are listening to me. Why don't system setting have administrative priviledge ? How do i make changes in login manager in system setting ?
[17:20] <asfak> thanks
[17:21] <Carroarmato0> asfak: noprob
[17:27] <emet> !info xchat
[17:32] <Carroarmato0> Does anyone know if the evaluation of Vmware Workstation is a fully functional version?
[18:03] <exco> atm is 1280x1024      61.0* the only supported mode with ati? (only available mode with xrandr on my machine)
[20:12] <cskmax> carroarmoato0: vmware workstation is free now
[23:28] <aidy> hi
[23:29] <aidy> i'm still suffering from this bughttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/255861
[23:30] <aidy> makes everything kind of unuseable
[23:40] <aidy> aha
[23:41] <aidy> selecting evdev managed keyboard as keyboard model works