[06:29] <tjaalton> pwnguin: duh, you're right
[06:49] <tjaalton> pwnguin: actually, seems that those lines were just missing from the latest upload, for whatever the reason
[09:11] <tjaalton> bryce: my rumblepad works right with the joystick driver. the problem is that the fdi file needs a lot of "quirks" because every device that evdev can't handle needs to be listed
[09:11] <tjaalton> but since that is done upstream it just takes some time to get all the devices in there
[09:12] <tjaalton> (gather the information from distros etc)
[09:12] <bryce> hmm
[09:12] <bryce> yeah I was playing with mnemtok's controller tonight trying to get it working
[09:12] <tjaalton> like the synaptics fdi file is in upstream master
[09:14] <soren> tjaalton: Don't worry any more about the evdev+kvm tragedy. It's 80% fixed, and the remaining 20% is on the way.
[09:14] <mvo> what happend?
[09:15] <tjaalton> soren: *phew*
[09:15] <soren> mvo: Was that a question for me?
[09:17] <mvo> soren: yes, I was curious what happend so that its fixed now (well, almost)
[09:18] <soren> mvo: We came up with a way to detect if evdev was used on the host and added an entirely new translation mechanism for that.
[09:19] <tjaalton> bryce: btw, joystick isn't installed by default
[09:19] <tjaalton> dunno if it should be or not
[09:19] <tjaalton> probably
[09:19] <bryce> yeah I think it should
[09:19] <tjaalton> Installed-Size: 24
[09:19] <soren> mvo: In gtk-vnc, that is.
[09:20] <tjaalton> probably won't fit on the cd :)
[09:20] <mvo> soren: aha, ok. so I should finally abandon the old xvncviewer :) ?
[09:20] <soren> mvo: Which accounts for all the frontends we really care about (virt-manager, vinagre, virt-viewer, etc). SDL (i.e. the frontend you get if you run kvm from the command line) is still lacking, but that's on its way.
[09:21] <soren> mvo: There's gvncviewer, which uses gtk-vnc.
[09:21] <mvo> excellent news, I like that
[09:21] <soren> mvo: I don't think it has a "-via" option, though.
[09:21] <soren> I use that all the time.
[11:16] <tseliot> tjaalton: can you upload these drivers for me, please? http://albertomilone.com/ubuntu/newlrm/pitti/lista_ia.txt
[11:43] <tjaalton> tseliot: ok, will do
[11:44] <tseliot> tjaalton: thanks
[11:52] <tjaalton> tseliot: uploaded
[11:52]  * mvo waves to tseliot
[11:53] <tseliot> mvo: hi ;)
[11:54] <tseliot> tjaalton: great, thanks again
[13:40] <pwnguin> well
[13:41] <pwnguin> the marketing copy on ubuntu.com says it just works"
[13:44] <pwnguin> I'm sure one or two people would say that joysticks are part of just working =/
[14:24] <tseliot> pwnguin: "it just works" != "anything piece of hardware will work" ;)
[14:24] <tseliot> any
[14:24] <tseliot> not anything
[14:24] <pwnguin> im sure people will deliberately misconstrue it anyways
[14:25] <tseliot> of course
[14:25] <pwnguin> especially if it previously worked