pgquiles | Riddell: ping | 00:41 |
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Riddell | hi pgquiles | 00:44 |
pgquiles | Riddell: hi. Is it already too late to sync witty ( http://packages.debian.org/unstable/witty ) with Debian? (an updated version just got in) | 00:46 |
Riddell | nope | 00:47 |
Riddell | ah, it's the Wt stuff | 00:48 |
pgquiles | yes | 00:48 |
Riddell | pgquiles: have you checked it compiles and runs on ubuntu? | 00:48 |
pgquiles | Riddell: yes. In fact, it's always available for Ubuntu from my PPA before being available for Debian :-) | 00:48 |
Riddell | pgquiles: what's your launchpad username? | 00:49 |
pgquiles | Riddell: pgquiles :-) | 00:49 |
pgquiles | Riddell: http://launchpad.net/~pgquiles/+archive | 00:49 |
* Riddell guesses pgquiles | 00:50 | |
Riddell | pgquiles: synced | 00:52 |
pgquiles | Riddell: thanks! | 00:52 |
Riddell | welcome back splitters :) | 00:55 |
Riddell | pgquiles: synced incase you missed that | 00:55 |
pgquiles | Riddell: I got it, thanks. IRC splits are funny to watch :-) | 00:57 |
Riddell | who's still awake? | 02:09 |
Riddell | testers needed for http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/install-package_0.1_all.deb | 02:09 |
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Welcome to the Kubuntu developers channel | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | Meeting Wednesday 27th 23:00UTC | ||
echidnaman | wow | 02:17 |
* echidnaman sees he was pinging out all the time he was away | 02:17 | |
=== echidnaman is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
Riddell | JontheEchidna! | 02:17 |
JontheEchidna | it crashes? | 02:17 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: fancy testing http://www.kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/install-package_0.1_all.deb ? | 02:17 |
* JontheEchidna didn't notice that jockey crashed when he tested | 02:18 | |
JontheEchidna | but ya I can test that too | 02:19 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: we might want to steal the launch-kdesudo code from gdebi for software-properties and install-package | 02:21 |
Riddell | well, it's a command line only app | 02:21 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: well it currently says to launch with kdesudo if you don't use sudo or kdesudo :P | 02:22 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: right, so jockey or whatever should use kdesudo | 02:22 |
JontheEchidna | yeah I've been meaning to give jockey and software-properties gdebi's code... | 02:23 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: code for what? | 02:23 |
JontheEchidna | for re-launching with kdesudo if not run with sudo in the first place | 02:23 |
Riddell | right | 02:24 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: anyway, how's install-package working for you? | 02:24 |
JontheEchidna | It's downloading file 0 of 1 | 02:24 |
JontheEchidna | (amarok-kde4) | 02:24 |
Riddell | good package choice :) | 02:25 |
JontheEchidna | and the details list is empty | 02:25 |
Riddell | it only shows stuff during install | 02:25 |
JontheEchidna | oh, any idea how to make it stop saying my computer needs a reboot? :P | 02:26 |
Riddell | reboot? | 02:26 |
JontheEchidna | earlier when I was testing update-manager | 02:26 |
JontheEchidna | you gave me a command to test the need-reboot functionality | 02:26 |
Riddell | rm /var/run/reboot-required | 02:27 |
JontheEchidna | oh, duh | 02:27 |
JontheEchidna | amarok-kde4 successfully installed | 02:29 |
JontheEchidna | everything looked great aside from the "downloading package 0 out of 1" bug | 02:29 |
Riddell | hmm, that comes from python-apt | 02:30 |
Riddell | so not my fault, uploading :) | 02:30 |
JontheEchidna | ;-) | 02:30 |
JontheEchidna | so should that be a drop-in replacement for adept-batch? | 02:31 |
Riddell | not quite, the command syntax is a bit different | 02:31 |
Riddell | ports of jockey and language-selector welcome | 02:31 |
* JontheEchidna needs to investigate the jockey crash | 02:31 | |
JontheEchidna | So is the week before feature freeze always like this? :P | 02:32 |
JontheEchidna | dear jesus... | 02:34 |
JontheEchidna | oookay... jockey-backed is ****-ed up | 02:34 |
* JontheEchidna didn't touch it | 02:34 | |
JontheEchidna | seems to be throwing a hissy fit with dbus | 02:35 |
* Riddell still needs to implement dist upgrade wizard into adept | 02:35 | |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: did you get anything like this when testing jockey? http://paste.ubuntu.com/39814/ | 02:36 |
Riddell | nope | 02:39 |
Riddell | looks like a whole new crash | 02:39 |
* JontheEchidna purges his jockey install and reinstalls the most recent official release | 02:40 | |
JontheEchidna | crap, happens with jockey from the repos | 02:41 |
JontheEchidna | meaning it's a problem with my setup :( | 02:41 |
JontheEchidna | this sucks | 02:45 |
seele | whoa.. Riddell is still up? | 02:48 |
Riddell | nobody to tell me to go to bed tonight :) | 02:49 |
seele | hehe | 02:49 |
seele | who wants to sleep alone when they can spend time with their IRC friends! | 02:50 |
Riddell | exactly | 02:50 |
seele | i'm finding some interesting stuff in the data you gave me | 02:52 |
seele | i havent scrubbed the data for outliers yet or anything, but i did run some basic numbers on x and y resolutions | 02:53 |
seele | 54% of the respondents reported runnign 1024 as their X res | 02:53 |
seele | oh wait wait, wrong number | 02:53 |
seele | 54% are running between 1024-1280 | 02:54 |
seele | BUT | 02:54 |
seele | 60% are running y res between 768 and 1024 | 02:54 |
seele | 54% are running at 768 | 02:54 |
seele | so it's possible the values you pulled for laptop/desktop are valid afterall.. even though they seemed a bit high for laptop when you pasted the preview data | 02:55 |
Riddell | 1024x768 is pretty well the norm for low to medium end computers | 02:55 |
seele | right.. but there is a lot of 1280x768 going on too | 02:55 |
seele | which is more common in laptops than monitors | 02:56 |
seele | dell sells widescreen monitors, but i think most of them are larger than 1280x1024 | 02:56 |
seele | the interesting part (for me at least) is that this tells use we have very limited vertical real estate to work with | 02:57 |
seele | screens are getting wider, not taller | 02:57 |
Riddell | widescreen gets sales, resultion less so | 02:58 |
seele | it looked like there were probably a few tablets submitted too because the resolutions reported were x < y | 02:59 |
* claydoh is doing the kde4 fanboi thing on kubuntuforums | 03:00 | |
claydoh | is the msttcorefonts *not* part of kubuntu-restricted-extras? | 03:00 |
Riddell | claydoh: doesn't seem to be | 03:00 |
Hobbsee | claydoh: it's not so far. | 03:00 |
claydoh | was there a reason maybe? | 03:00 |
Hobbsee | hm, i didn't thikn it was in any of them. obviously not | 03:01 |
claydoh | I saw a discussion in the ml archives | 03:01 |
claydoh | u-r-s does depend on msttcorefonts | 03:02 |
claydoh | afaik | 03:02 |
Riddell | patches welcome then :) | 03:02 |
Riddell | although liberty fonts might mean there's no need any more | 03:03 |
Hobbsee | fixed. | 03:03 |
Hobbsee | there was already a patch | 03:03 |
claydoh | heh someone already has | 03:03 |
claydoh | https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-restricted-extras/+bug/231094 | 03:03 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 231094 in ubuntu-restricted-extras "Please add msttcorefonts to kubuntu-restricted-extras" [Undecided,Fix released] | 03:03 |
* Hobbsee doesn't see why ttf-liberation does not suffice, though. | 03:04 | |
Hobbsee | claydoh: the general reason as to why it wasn't (although i'm not sure how they got in for the other bits) was because i didn't see the point of having a package that effectively depends on everything in multiverse, with it's varying degrees of usefulness. | 03:06 |
Hobbsee | and, y'know, fonts aren't generally extra functionality, per se. | 03:06 |
JontheEchidna | holy crap, jockey works now | 03:08 |
* JontheEchidna has no clue what he did wrong | 03:08 | |
claydoh | Hobbsee: I do agree with that | 03:08 |
* Riddell snoozes | 03:08 | |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: so from my branch jockey crashes? | 03:09 |
JontheEchidna | it doesn't here | 03:09 |
JontheEchidna | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~echidnaman/jockey/jockey-pykde4 , to be sure ;) | 03:10 |
=== bobesponjita is now known as bobesponja | ||
seele | 'night Riddell | 03:13 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: how do you run it? | 03:14 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: jonathan@jonathan-desktop:~/Documents/python/jockey-kde4/jockey-pykde4/kde$ sudo python jockey-kde | 03:15 |
Riddell | http://paste.ubuntu.com/39816/ | 03:16 |
* Riddell snoozes | 03:17 | |
JontheEchidna | that rings a bell, actually | 03:17 |
* JontheEchidna remembers something similar | 03:17 | |
JontheEchidna | but I thought I fixed that in bzr | 03:18 |
JontheEchidna | Yeah, I did fix it in bzr, but that was after I made debs | 03:19 |
* JontheEchidna remembers he screwed up the .ui file something awful | 03:19 | |
Hobbsee | claydoh: i see why it would suck to be the head of artwork, after doing u-r-e for a while... | 03:27 |
vorian | JontheEchidna: kio-bookmarks uploaded | 03:37 |
vorian | thanks again for your contributions :) | 03:37 |
JontheEchidna | vorian: cooliosis | 03:49 |
JontheEchidna | Did you try it? It's quite neat | 03:49 |
JontheEchidna | I found it because commit-digest did a mini-article about it | 03:50 |
JontheEchidna | oh lol, I forgot to push up my last to jockey commits to bzr | 03:50 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: When you wake up, update jockey and try it again. ;-) | 03:52 |
* JontheEchidna goes to bed | 04:25 | |
Jucato | night JontheEchidna | 04:25 |
vorian | nn | 04:29 |
Czessi-m | morning | 09:27 |
Czessi-m | Riddell: we found the kubuntu poll-up post in the kde booth box :-) | 09:28 |
=== thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
devfil | Riddell: there? | 15:29 |
Riddell | hi devfil | 15:49 |
devfil | Riddell: in kdebindings there are two files not installed usr/lib/kde3/libjsconsoleplugin.{la,so}, where should I put them? libkde3-java package? | 15:50 |
Riddell | devfil: leave them out | 15:50 |
Riddell | we took that out ages ago because it was broken | 15:50 |
devfil | Riddell: ok, just to know ;) | 15:51 |
=== d-miller2 is now known as d-miller | ||
taupter | Riddell: ping | 17:16 |
Riddell | hi taupter | 17:34 |
taupter | Riddell: Hi. :) | 17:35 |
taupter | Riddell: Did you see thiago's rant? | 17:35 |
Riddell | nope | 17:35 |
Riddell | about nvidia? | 17:36 |
taupter | Riddell: About the glib-in-Qt event stack making kwin spend 20% of processor time while idle? | 17:36 |
Riddell | nope | 17:36 |
taupter | Riddell: http://labs.trolltech.com/blogs/2008/08/22/rant-desktop-effects-never-more/ | 17:37 |
taupter | Riddell: I believe it's the same rant about nvidia. My machines suffer the same problem, | 17:38 |
Riddell | and does it help to run kwin with QT_NO_GLIB=1? | 17:39 |
taupter | Riddell: and I'm not aware of any Qt program using Glib's event stack anyway, | 17:39 |
taupter | Riddell: Yes, QT_NO_GLIB=1 helps greatly. | 17:39 |
taupter | Riddell: I'd like to suggest disabling glib support in Kubuntu's Qt packages, or at least disabling it with QT_NO_GLIB=1. | 17:41 |
Riddell | taupter: does QT_NO_GLIB=1 for kwin only help? | 17:41 |
taupter | Riddell: I'm not sure. | 17:42 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna: jockey seems to work now | 17:42 |
Riddell | taupter: if it's only a problem for kwin then we can easily enough turn it off for that | 17:42 |
taupter | Riddell: I restarted kwin from a konsole here after export QT_NO_GLIB=1 | 17:44 |
Riddell | taupter: and your problem goes away? | 17:45 |
taupter | Riddell: It seems quieter, but plasma and kwin still throw processor spikes regularly. :) | 17:46 |
Riddell | would be easy enough to turn off, I'll talk to thiago first though and see what he recommends | 17:47 |
taupter | Riddell: Just for the record, here I'm using an Nvidia 7500LE with 1920x1440, and when I disable glib it flies. | 17:48 |
taupter | Riddell: Sorry. Nvidia 5700le | 17:49 |
devfil | Riddell: dh_shlibdeps -pkommander -l :debian/kommander/usr/lib | 18:26 |
devfil | dh_shlibdeps: command returned error code 11 | 18:26 |
devfil | make: *** [binary-predeb-IMPL/kommander] Error 1 | 18:26 |
Riddell | wibble | 18:27 |
devfil | Riddell: do you know why I get this error? | 18:28 |
Riddell | never seen it before | 18:29 |
nixternal | howdy all | 18:32 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: cool | 18:36 |
taupter | Riddell: ping | 18:37 |
JontheEchidna | Riddell: Once I get it working with the new package-installer it should be good to go | 18:37 |
Riddell | hi taupter | 18:38 |
taupter | Riddell: Heh. :) Disabling the Glib thing just to kwin does the trick, I confirm here, and | 18:38 |
taupter | Riddell: thiago sent me a patch: http://pastebin.ca/1182538 | 18:39 |
taupter | Riddell: It will disable Glib just to kwin, but he doesn't want to commit it to kde's repos, | 18:40 |
nixternal | hrmm, nobody can say hi....jeesh, see if I ever say hi again! | 18:40 |
taupter | Riddell: as if he does so nobody will ever try to fix Glib in Qt. :D | 18:40 |
taupter | Riddell: And he's right. :D. afaict the patch can be appliet to both 4.1 branch and trunk. | 18:41 |
Riddell | taupter: great | 18:42 |
Riddell | hi nixternal! | 18:42 |
nixternal | hi Riddell :) | 18:42 |
nixternal | now I feel some love again | 18:42 |
taupter | Riddell: Can I bug you again? :) kmldonkey-kde4 doesn't install, as it depends on libplasma1 but only libplasma2 is installed. | 18:43 |
taupter | Riddell: I made a .deb for my own comsumption, and maybe I could help to package some bits of kde4 for kubuntu. | 18:44 |
yuriy | ok I've really gotta get designer running to get working on userconfig.. | 18:45 |
JontheEchidna | yuriy: so it's segfaulting trying to load pykde plugins? | 18:49 |
JontheEchidna | oh hey, I don't have python-kde4-dev installed | 18:51 |
JontheEchidna | maybe that's why it works | 18:51 |
JontheEchidna | still works | 18:52 |
* yuriy checks | 18:53 | |
yuriy | I don't have python-kde4-dev either | 18:54 |
JontheEchidna | It worked before and after installing that for me | 18:54 |
yuriy | JontheEchidna: where did you get that that's what it was segfaulting on? | 18:54 |
JontheEchidna | running it in konsole | 18:54 |
JontheEchidna | oh | 18:55 |
JontheEchidna | actually I just deleted stuff from /usr/lib/qt4/plugins/designer until it worked | 18:55 |
yuriy | this is what I get: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/39957/ | 18:55 |
yuriy | yeah you told me that, but it didn't work for me | 18:55 |
JontheEchidna | :( | 18:56 |
yuriy | and this is last thing from valgrind: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/39702/ | 18:56 |
JontheEchidna | would you happen to have the bespin qt4 widget theme installed? | 18:56 |
yuriy | no | 18:57 |
JontheEchidna | cuz that causes designer to segfault too | 18:57 |
yuriy | JontheEchidna: probably should report that if you know specific things | 18:58 |
JontheEchidna | bespin is unmaintained | 18:59 |
JontheEchidna | it was the original oxygen theme iirc | 18:59 |
yuriy | but designer shouldn't segfault on random things | 18:59 |
JontheEchidna | ok so taking a random stab here, maybe pyqt3 is conflicting with pyqt4? | 19:00 |
yuriy | removed python-qt3 and python-kde3, no luck | 19:02 |
JontheEchidna | python-kde3-dev would probably be the offender if pyqt3 was conflicting | 19:02 |
yuriy | nope :( | 19:03 |
JontheEchidna | damn, this sucks | 19:04 |
JontheEchidna | any way I could create the ui file for you? | 19:04 |
yuriy | I think I'll need several | 19:04 |
JontheEchidna | using userconfig from kde-guidance as a reference? | 19:05 |
yuriy | yeah | 19:05 |
yuriy | I guess that's doable | 19:05 |
yuriy | and bzr branch for the ported one is available | 19:05 |
JontheEchidna | what's your LP id? | 19:06 |
yuriy | yuriy-kozlov | 19:07 |
JontheEchidna | so how have you been doing work without ui files? | 19:08 |
yuriy | the original didn't use them | 19:08 |
yuriy | I actually prefer to write out GUIs | 19:09 |
yuriy | but I don't want to debug what's there, and I figured I'd be nice to the next person who touches it | 19:09 |
yuriy | all I've done so far is get it to run and all the dialogs to show up | 19:12 |
* smarter <3 amarok2 | 19:15 | |
yuriy | broken for me last I checked | 19:15 |
smarter | yuriy: I had to remove my ~/.kde/share/apps/amarok and ~/.kde/share/config/amarok* to make it work | 19:16 |
smarter | the only thing I miss is a working lyric applet | 19:16 |
JontheEchidna | yuriy: so you want to change the current GUI into .ui files? | 19:18 |
yuriy | JontheEchidna: rather than fix it, yeah | 19:19 |
JontheEchidna | okie | 19:19 |
yuriy | need: | 19:19 |
yuriy | 1. details grid for user | 19:19 |
yuriy | 2. details page for modify user | 19:20 |
nixternal | apachelogger: you aren't telling people to replace KHC with a Wiki are you? or you aren't behind that movement? | 19:20 |
yuriy | 3. password page for modify user | 19:20 |
yuriy | 4. page for modify/new group | 19:21 |
yuriy | I think that's it | 19:21 |
Riddell | taupter: do fix up the package, that would be great | 20:23 |
Riddell | it can probably drop hte -kde4 name | 20:23 |
=== jjesse_ is now known as jjesse | ||
Tonio_ | hi there | 20:52 |
Tonio_ | is knetworkmanager still working for you ? | 20:52 |
Tonio_ | I can seem to connect to any wireless network.... I can configure a connection, but nothing happens when I'm trying to connect... | 20:52 |
Tonio_ | works with wired connections btw | 20:52 |
JontheEchidna | yuriy: http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Woremar/maindialogui.png | 20:58 |
JontheEchidna | http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Woremar/maindialogui2.png | 20:58 |
yuriy | Tonio_: wasn't working for me last I tried.. installed gnome-network-manager and forgot about it | 20:58 |
yuriy | JontheEchidna: thanks!! I'll look at it later, working on my roof | 20:58 |
JontheEchidna | hehe | 20:58 |
JontheEchidna | have fun | 20:58 |
Tonio_ | yuriy: oki | 21:11 |
yuriy | JontheEchidna: not quite what I was asking for, but cool! | 21:18 |
JontheEchidna | would you like to use it? | 21:23 |
yuriy | JontheEchidna: at least -- can you make the top level a widget and not a dialog, so it can be embedded in a kcm easily? | 21:24 |
yuriy | other than that, great, I'll use it | 21:24 |
JontheEchidna | yeah | 21:24 |
JontheEchidna | I was having trouble making it a dialog anyway | 21:24 |
JontheEchidna | I still need to make .ui files for the modify, new, and delete dialogs | 21:28 |
seele | JontheEchidna: right align your labels! | 21:29 |
seele | JontheEchidna: and is that going to be a kcm module as well? | 21:29 |
JontheEchidna | seele: That's the dream | 21:30 |
seele | oh, i missed yuriy's comment, hehe | 21:30 |
* JontheEchidna just threw all the things in the details box in a grid layout | 21:30 | |
JontheEchidna | after I took the screenshot | 21:30 |
* JontheEchidna needs web hosting space where he can throw up junk | 21:32 | |
yuriy | JontheEchidna: you can push the .ui files to the bzr branch | 21:34 |
JontheEchidna | yuriy: isn't the branch owned by you? | 21:34 |
Riddell | yuriy: you can embed it in a kcm? | 21:35 |
yuriy | haven't tried yet, actually | 21:35 |
yuriy | but I mean, how guidance utils pick a base class based on if it's run standalone | 21:36 |
yuriy | so an ui based on a dialog or main window wouldn't work | 21:36 |
yuriy | Riddell: do you know if libpythonize works for kde4? | 21:37 |
Riddell | it doesn't | 21:37 |
* yuriy -> back to the roof | 21:38 | |
yuriy | oh :-\ | 21:38 |
Riddell | it's on sime's todo I think but he's a busy chap | 21:39 |
JontheEchidna | http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Woremar/mainwindowui3.png | 21:42 |
JontheEchidna | ^That's with all the layouting, etc | 21:43 |
JontheEchidna | and no dialog buttons | 21:43 |
* JontheEchidna copied the tabwidget onto a pure qwidget | 21:43 | |
apachelogger | nixternal: I am telling people to replace most docbooks with a wiki and make KHC arrive in 2008 by making it access online content | 22:31 |
JontheEchidna | QWebview ftw | 22:31 |
apachelogger | KHTML ftw | 22:32 |
JontheEchidna | Gecko ftw | 22:32 |
apachelogger | or for that matter | 22:32 |
apachelogger | KParts ftw! | 22:32 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: ok, now that was seriously out of place | 22:32 |
apachelogger | that is like IE ftw | 22:32 |
yuriy | JontheEchidna: awesome! | 22:32 |
yuriy | JontheEchidna: does it let you push to my branch? | 22:33 |
JontheEchidna | yuriy: haven't tried | 22:33 |
JontheEchidna | but the LP page says only you can | 22:33 |
JontheEchidna | https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~yuriy-kozlov/guidance/userconfig-kde4 | 22:33 |
apachelogger | yuriy: he can push to his and you can merge | 22:33 |
apachelogger | or you move the branch to kde-members | 22:33 |
yuriy | moved to kubuntu-members | 22:35 |
JontheEchidna | cool beans | 22:35 |
yuriy | apachelogger: now now, Gecko is still FOSS | 22:35 |
apachelogger | that doesn't mean it's good software though | 22:35 |
JontheEchidna | has less rendering errors than KHTML too | 22:35 |
yuriy | JontheEchidna: can you add focus buddies? | 22:35 |
JontheEchidna | yuriy: focus buddies? | 22:36 |
yuriy | so when you click on a label, it focuses its corresponding line edit | 22:36 |
* apachelogger is wondering what to work on | 22:36 | |
yuriy | iirc this is denoted by a blue arrow in designer | 22:36 |
* JontheEchidna didn't know you could do that | 22:36 | |
apachelogger | hm | 22:36 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: you should get yourself a Qt book | 22:37 |
apachelogger | focus buddies is one of the essential features ;-) | 22:37 |
JontheEchidna | that was easy | 22:37 |
JontheEchidna | ok, so I made a ui/ folder | 22:38 |
JontheEchidna | which has all of 1 ui file in it right now :P | 22:40 |
JontheEchidna | anyway, just pushed it up | 22:41 |
JontheEchidna | you can edit the widget names with kate or whatever | 22:41 |
JontheEchidna | I guess | 22:41 |
JontheEchidna | Ok, for the delete user dialog we should just hard code in a KMessageBox | 22:45 |
JontheEchidna | no need to make a ui file for that | 22:45 |
JontheEchidna | Hmm, well actually I have no clue how you'd get checkboxes in there | 22:46 |
JontheEchidna | so maybe not | 22:46 |
yuriy | i'll code it if need be | 22:52 |
yuriy | i had a list of stuff earliery^ | 22:52 |
JontheEchidna | yuriy: so do the modify and new dialogs use the same dialog and just populate it differently? | 23:12 |
apachelogger | now I have more karma from bzr commits than bug triage | 23:33 |
apachelogger | that algo is completely pointless | 23:33 |
apachelogger | the most time consuming work creates the least karma | 23:33 |
apachelogger | :S | 23:33 |
JontheEchidna | just go and close a couple hundred bugs that are set to expire 10 years ago | 23:36 |
JontheEchidna | Is it wrong if I laugh inside when I see window management bugs in compiz at launchpad? | 23:39 |
apachelogger | JontheEchidna: it just seems wrong that closing expired bugs gives karma at all, how does that move anything forward? ... and the compiz thing is just normal | 23:50 |
JontheEchidna | btw, this page is quite handy: http://people.ubuntu.com/~brian/reports/since-yesterday/ | 23:50 |
apachelogger | yeah, it shows how broken gnome is compared to KDE :P | 23:52 |
JontheEchidna | :P | 23:52 |
JontheEchidna | that's why I've been laughing at compiz so much lately | 23:53 |
tyfon | the desktop effects in kde4 is working pretty nice here.. but i sort of miss an exposé effect :) | 23:56 |
JontheEchidna | throw the mouse to the top left corner | 23:57 |
yuriy | JontheEchidna: yes | 23:57 |
yuriy | they do use the same dialog | 23:57 |
JontheEchidna | thought so | 23:58 |
tyfon | hmm | 23:58 |
yuriy | apachelogger: I think it shows more the popularity of Ubuntu compared to Kubuntu, but we can keep thinking that :P | 23:59 |
tyfon | i didnt see it in the settings list so i asumed it was not there ;) | 23:59 |
tyfon | thats nice | 23:59 |
JontheEchidna | tyfon: it's called something else | 23:59 |
tyfon | yeah it works hehe | 23:59 |
JontheEchidna | I think crtl + F10 also does it | 23:59 |
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