[02:50] <jscinoz> so..
[02:50] <jscinoz> what kind of breakage is there in intrepid right now?
[02:53] <xnevermore> jscinoz: Aside from a few minor breakages (the fglrx driver, being the most notable), its pretty usable
[02:53] <jscinoz> alright thanks, might upgrade one of my boxes to give it a go :P
[02:53] <jscinoz> btw when is the freeze for new packages?
[02:54] <jscinoz> because i have a few of mine waiting for a sponsor in debian, so it'd be nice if i can get them into intrepid in themean time.
[02:54] <xnevermore> jscinoz: hmm... not sure
[02:55] <JontheEchidna> It's either the 27th or 28th
[03:10] <zerwas> Does somebody know what the different artwork deadlines mean?
[03:32] <cecil44> can't login after upgrade
[03:32] <dbglt> any ideas how kubuntu fares in intrepid? I'm not sure if I should download the alpha 4 image, since I know kubuntu hardy had problems that ubuntu didn't...
[03:40] <jscinoz> JontheEchidna, of august or sept?
[03:49] <JontheEchidna> jscinoz: this month
[04:26] <jscinoz> oh darn
[04:26] <jscinoz> probably not gonna make it in then :P
[04:26] <jscinoz> oh well it can live on my ppa until intrepid+1
[04:29] <RAOF> jscinoz: There's always the option if FFe's, or you could ask for sponsorship directly.
[04:35] <jscinoz> RAOF, FFe?
[04:35] <RAOF> Feature-freeze exception.
[04:36] <jscinoz> ah
[04:36] <jscinoz> who would i ask for sponsorship directly?
[04:36] <jscinoz> or do i just go through the normal upload to revu and wait process :P
[04:36] <RAOF> Right.
[04:36] <jscinoz> >_<
[04:36] <RAOF> We haven't been very good with revu this cycle.  Sorry.
[04:37] <jscinoz> :P not a problem, just gonna go set up an intrepid vm to make sure it works fine on it
[04:38] <jscinoz> only been tested on sid.
[08:47] <BonezAU> How stable is Intrepid right now? i've been using ubuntu for years and I am comfortable with recovering from big problems.. Last I tried Alpha 2 and it was not very stable - is it worth me downloading alpha 4? has there been many improvements?
[09:10] <LSD|Ninja> BonezAU: I'd say try it out in a virtual machine if you're that concerned but last I checked, it had a couple of problems that cramped it there too :/
[09:12] <BonezAU> does anyone know if the nvidia drivers have been updated? I have a 9600GT that won't work with hardy
[09:14] <RAOF> Yes
[09:47] <Hobbsee> BonezAU: depends whether you run into particular bugs or not.
[09:47] <Hobbsee> BonezAU: nvidia ---> may be a problem.  try and see, if you like
[09:48] <Lynoure> I've read Ibex will offer an encrypted private directory for users. Is that only for new users or will upgrading to Ibex also create it to existing users?
[09:48] <Hobbsee> good question
[09:50] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: I hope there will be a good answer, too :)
[09:50] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: probably.  i'd guess you want to ask that in #ubuntu-server, on a weekday.
[09:51] <Hobbsee> kirkland should know.
[09:51] <Hobbsee> as i think he's done the work on it
[09:51] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: The people who know about it are mostly only there, or is it a server-only feature? (more useful for laptops, I'd think)
[09:52] <Hobbsee> the former
[09:52] <Hobbsee> so, i'm not sure why the server guys did it.  but i'm fairly sure tehy did.
[09:54] <jpds> Lynoure: I think there's a script which you just run and it sets it up.
[09:54] <Lynoure> Hobbsee: ok, thanks, I'll try to remember to ask them on Monday.
[09:54] <Hobbsee> Lynoure: you're welcome
[09:55] <Hobbsee> jpds: please tell me that the script does not start with a, and end in x, or something.
[09:56] <jpds> Hobbsee, Lynoure: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[09:56] <jpds> Hobbsee: "ecryptfs-setup-private"
[09:57] <Lynoure> jpds: so not automatically?
[09:58] <jpds> Lynoure: Planned is: "Hook PAM to use login password to unwrap an ecryptfs mount passphrase and automatically mount on login" according to the page.
[09:58] <Lynoure> jpds: that's mounting, not creating.
[09:59] <jpds> Lynoure: Yeah, and "ecyptfs-setup-private" does the creating.
[09:59] <Lynoure> jpds: I'd actually prefer it not to get mounted automatically, nor to use my login password
[10:00] <Lynoure> I'd feel security of it to be less if it uses the password people dutifully tend to enter to anything calling itself sudo, but I'm cynical in these things. =)
[10:01] <jpds> There'd probably be a way to tweak it; but kirkland would know best.
[10:02] <Lynoure> ok, thanks.
[10:05] <BonezAU> sweet
[10:59] <BonezAU> I want to try out intrepid in a VM but Vista takes up all my RAM.. I have a brand new PC with 4gb of ram.. sigh
[10:59]  * BonezAU pwned
[10:59] <LSD|Ninja> If Vista is taking up all your RAM and you have 4GB then something is seriously wrong and it's not Vista.
[11:00] <BonezAU> well ok, I have 1.63gb left
[11:00] <BonezAU> I have a feeling if I was running XP on this machine i'd have 3gb left
[11:02] <LSD|Ninja> No, you'd have 1.63GB left
[11:09] <fatal_> I just upgraded my (freshly installed) virtualbox ubuntu hardy to intrepid. I get to the login (gdm), there's a mouse pointer but neither mouse nor keyboard input works.... Anyone got any ideas what to do?
[12:38] <Ng> anyone tried out interpid on an Intel G45 board yet?
[12:43] <vistakiller> fatal_ i have the same problem try to do fresh install in vb
[14:13] <Raspberry> is the Net Installer for Alpha 4 completely broken?
[14:14] <Raspberry> is the Net Installer for Alpha 4 completely broken?
[14:14] <Raspberry> I can't "select / install" software
[14:16] <Raspberry> ok -- the problem was the mythtv-frontend package
[14:16] <Raspberry> doesn't eixst
[14:19] <Raspberry> is there anyway to test a CDROM drive in Linux?
[14:20] <Raspberry> The reason for my question is my ubuntu 8.04 box has stopped detecting media in the cdrom
[14:20] <Raspberry> cdrom drive
[14:21] <Raspberry> if I type "mount /media/cdrom" it says no media found
[14:21] <Raspberry> medium found, sorry
[14:21] <Raspberry> it's the only CD drive in the system
[14:21] <Raspberry> sorry -- I should be asking this in #ubuntu... wrong channel :D
[14:43] <DrHalan1> hey
[14:43] <DrHalan1> i was wondering if its possible to make libnotify not overlay my gnome-panel
[14:44] <DrHalan1> but be position a bit more upwards
[15:06] <Lunks> If I switch over to another keyboard layout (phisically, from an ABNT2 to US-Intl) how can I change it on Intrepid?
[15:23] <gnomefreak> Lunks: system > preferences > keyboard?
[15:24] <gnomefreak> im fairly sure it under preferences
[16:35] <alfons> C-x
[16:35] <alfons> C-x
[16:37] <gustavo> Hi. I'm testing Intrepid and my wireless connection doesn't work anymore. I have no clue on what I have to do to fix this. I already installed the relevant driver via the Restricted Drivers Manager and I also checked that the restricted modules for the kernel were installed. Why doesn't it work?
[16:38] <gustavo> The WiFi LED on my laptop is on, but according to knetworkmanager "wireless is disabled" and I can't see anything in the list of available conections
[17:07] <askand> How are these two specs going? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubiquity-visual-refresh and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/usb-installation-images ? I noticed they have the same Assignee and Drafter
[19:35]  * penguin42 could do with some help and suggestions about debugging something to the point where I can file a useful set of bugs on Alpha 4
[19:36] <penguin42> has anyone else seen a boot end up with a red screen? (after the language selection)
[19:54] <penguin42> ok, lets try a different one - hangs on heavy disc IO?
[20:28] <tony_> can someone help me. I'm getting ""/var/tmp/kdecache-tony" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0" when i try to install synaptic because adept won't work right either
[20:28] <penguin42> is your uid 1000 ?
[20:28] <tony_> penguin42: i'm not sure how i set that
[20:29] <penguin42> it's probably the default for the first user?
[20:29] <tony_> ok, yes it is
[20:29] <tony_> it shows 1000 in kde user manager
[20:29] <tony_> so do i just set the uid of kdecache-tony to uid 0 to make it work?
[20:30] <tony_> it seems anything requiring root permissions gives me probs. adept, nvidia driver install, etc
[20:31]  * penguin42 would have thought that directory should be owned by your user, not root
[20:31] <tony_> yes, it says it's owned by me
[20:39] <slipttees> hey...that's open Untitled window in firefox ever
[20:39] <slipttees> test in hackint0sh.org webpage
[20:58] <penguin42> The manual install partitioner seems very very very basic
[22:09] <godzirra> Howdy folks.
[22:13] <rconan> is there an easy way to dualboot intrepid with hardy?
[22:15] <JontheEchidna> install it on a separate partition
[22:16] <godzirra> I am trying to just get intrepid to boot on a laptop, and with noapic in the boot options, it gets to the ubuntu logo and then takes forever to boot.
[22:16] <rconan> actually... how big is the install? I might have a spare disk
[22:16] <godzirra> I've been waiting for probably... 10 minutes?
[22:30] <rconan> what's the likelyhood that upgrading to intrepid will completely mess up my computer? I like the idea of testing things and maybe contributing but would like a semi-usable environment
[22:33] <kavon> imo try the live cd if you want to test
[22:33] <kavon> theres a strong chance things will be broken, and trying to get work done will be a pain
[22:38] <rbrunhuber> If Networkmanager is running i cannot connect to wireless networks. (Worked before)
[22:38] <rbrunhuber> I have to disable Networkmanager (sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManger stop) and start wpa_supplicant manually to get a connection.
[22:48] <Teisei> rbrunhuber: So you see the networks but can't connect, right ?
[22:52] <rbrunhuber> yes
[22:52] <rbrunhuber> Teisei: yes.
[22:53] <Teisei> Have you tried NetworkManager alternatives like wicd ?
[22:54] <Teisei> Wicd works well on my laptop :)
[22:54] <rbrunhuber> Teisei: No i haven't because up to now everything worked fine with NM
[22:55] <Teisei> Did it occur after an update ?
[22:55] <rbrunhuber> Teisei: I think so but I'm not 100% sure.
[22:56] <Teisei> If it broke after an update ... well the best thing I think is to just wait for the next update that hopefully will fix the problem
[22:56] <Teisei> What OS are your running ?
[22:57] <Teisei> Version of Ubuntu
[22:57] <rbrunhuber> Teisei: Kubuntu Intrepid
[22:58] <Teisei> I'm running Ubuntu Intrepid
[22:59] <Teisei> I wonder if it's just KDE
[22:59] <rbrunhuber> Teisei: I think I'm lucky I still have a old version of nm in /var/cache/apt/archives/. Maybe i should try to downgrade.
[22:59] <Teisei> You can also downgrade from Synaptic
[22:59] <Teisei> Yes
[23:00] <rbrunhuber> Teisei: I do a downgrade now. I will be back in a few minutes.
[23:00] <Teisei> Ok
[23:01] <godzirra> kavon:  I tried the live cd.. I can't get it to boot the livecd.
[23:08] <rbrunhuber_> Teisei: back again.
[23:08] <rbrunhuber_> did not work downgrading.
[23:08] <Teisei> Hmm
[23:08] <Teisei> I wonder if it's the wpa-supplicant that's causing the problems ...
[23:09] <Teisei> If it for some reason is unable to work correctly when NM is active
[23:10] <rbrunhuber_> Teisei: I think it is networkmanager
[23:10] <rbrunhuber_> Teisei:  I see a lot of these in the logs: Invalid connection: 'NMSettingIP4Config' / 'method' invalid: 1
[23:10] <Teisei> In dmesg or ?
[23:12] <rbrunhuber_> no /var/log/messages
[23:13] <Teisei> Starting NM creates lines in /var/log/messages ?
[23:13] <Teisei> tail -f /var/log/messages
[23:14] <rbrunhuber_> Teisei: no but trying to associate.
[23:16] <rbrunhuber_> I'll retry tomorrow.
[23:16] <Teisei> I searched Google for the error message ... nothing useful there :/
[23:17] <Teisei> Programmers will sort it out I think :]
[23:17] <Teisei> The mess
[23:17] <rbrunhuber_> Teisei: I tried google to ;-)
[23:18] <Teisei> Maybe programmers are trying to solve the problem as we talk ...
[23:19] <Teisei> Since it's already addressed
[23:21] <sodoku> can anyone help me getting my nvidia card to work?
[23:21] <sodoku> nvidia-glx-177 is isntalled, but i only get the console
[23:22] <Teisei> I have 173 installed
[23:22] <Teisei> It works better than 177 imo
[23:24] <sodoku> both don't work for me
[23:24] <sodoku> i updatet from hardy
[23:37] <shingen> wow, lotsa bugs... what's the beta timeline?