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jscinozso..02:50
jscinozwhat kind of breakage is there in intrepid right now?02:50
xnevermorejscinoz: Aside from a few minor breakages (the fglrx driver, being the most notable), its pretty usable02:53
jscinozalright thanks, might upgrade one of my boxes to give it a go :P02:53
jscinozbtw when is the freeze for new packages?02:53
jscinozbecause i have a few of mine waiting for a sponsor in debian, so it'd be nice if i can get them into intrepid in themean time.02:54
xnevermorejscinoz: hmm... not sure02:54
JontheEchidnaIt's either the 27th or 28th02:55
zerwasDoes somebody know what the different artwork deadlines mean?03:10
cecil44can't login after upgrade03:32
dbgltany ideas how kubuntu fares in intrepid? I'm not sure if I should download the alpha 4 image, since I know kubuntu hardy had problems that ubuntu didn't...03:32
jscinozJontheEchidna, of august or sept?03:40
JontheEchidnajscinoz: this month03:49
jscinozoh darn04:26
jscinozprobably not gonna make it in then :P04:26
jscinozoh well it can live on my ppa until intrepid+104:26
RAOFjscinoz: There's always the option if FFe's, or you could ask for sponsorship directly.04:29
jscinozRAOF, FFe?04:35
RAOFFeature-freeze exception.04:35
jscinozah04:36
jscinozwho would i ask for sponsorship directly?04:36
jscinozor do i just go through the normal upload to revu and wait process :P04:36
RAOFRight.04:36
jscinoz>_<04:36
RAOFWe haven't been very good with revu this cycle.  Sorry.04:36
jscinoz:P not a problem, just gonna go set up an intrepid vm to make sure it works fine on it04:37
jscinozonly been tested on sid.04:38
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BonezAUHow stable is Intrepid right now? i've been using ubuntu for years and I am comfortable with recovering from big problems.. Last I tried Alpha 2 and it was not very stable - is it worth me downloading alpha 4? has there been many improvements?08:47
LSD|NinjaBonezAU: I'd say try it out in a virtual machine if you're that concerned but last I checked, it had a couple of problems that cramped it there too :/09:10
BonezAUdoes anyone know if the nvidia drivers have been updated? I have a 9600GT that won't work with hardy09:12
RAOFYes09:14
HobbseeBonezAU: depends whether you run into particular bugs or not.09:47
HobbseeBonezAU: nvidia ---> may be a problem.  try and see, if you like09:47
LynoureI've read Ibex will offer an encrypted private directory for users. Is that only for new users or will upgrading to Ibex also create it to existing users?09:48
Hobbseegood question09:48
LynoureHobbsee: I hope there will be a good answer, too :)09:50
HobbseeLynoure: probably.  i'd guess you want to ask that in #ubuntu-server, on a weekday.09:50
Hobbseekirkland should know.09:51
Hobbseeas i think he's done the work on it09:51
LynoureHobbsee: The people who know about it are mostly only there, or is it a server-only feature? (more useful for laptops, I'd think)09:51
Hobbseethe former09:52
Hobbseeso, i'm not sure why the server guys did it.  but i'm fairly sure tehy did.09:52
jpdsLynoure: I think there's a script which you just run and it sets it up.09:54
LynoureHobbsee: ok, thanks, I'll try to remember to ask them on Monday.09:54
HobbseeLynoure: you're welcome09:54
Hobbseejpds: please tell me that the script does not start with a, and end in x, or something.09:55
jpdsHobbsee, Lynoure: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory09:56
jpdsHobbsee: "ecryptfs-setup-private"09:56
Lynourejpds: so not automatically?09:57
jpdsLynoure: Planned is: "Hook PAM to use login password to unwrap an ecryptfs mount passphrase and automatically mount on login" according to the page.09:58
Lynourejpds: that's mounting, not creating.09:58
jpdsLynoure: Yeah, and "ecyptfs-setup-private" does the creating.09:59
Lynourejpds: I'd actually prefer it not to get mounted automatically, nor to use my login password09:59
LynoureI'd feel security of it to be less if it uses the password people dutifully tend to enter to anything calling itself sudo, but I'm cynical in these things. =)10:00
jpdsThere'd probably be a way to tweak it; but kirkland would know best.10:01
Lynoureok, thanks.10:02
BonezAUsweet10:05
BonezAUI want to try out intrepid in a VM but Vista takes up all my RAM.. I have a brand new PC with 4gb of ram.. sigh10:59
* BonezAU pwned10:59
LSD|NinjaIf Vista is taking up all your RAM and you have 4GB then something is seriously wrong and it's not Vista.10:59
BonezAUwell ok, I have 1.63gb left11:00
BonezAUI have a feeling if I was running XP on this machine i'd have 3gb left11:00
LSD|NinjaNo, you'd have 1.63GB left11:02
fatal_I just upgraded my (freshly installed) virtualbox ubuntu hardy to intrepid. I get to the login (gdm), there's a mouse pointer but neither mouse nor keyboard input works.... Anyone got any ideas what to do?11:09
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Nganyone tried out interpid on an Intel G45 board yet?12:38
vistakillerfatal_ i have the same problem try to do fresh install in vb12:43
Raspberryis the Net Installer for Alpha 4 completely broken?14:13
Raspberryis the Net Installer for Alpha 4 completely broken?14:14
RaspberryI can't "select / install" software14:14
Raspberryok -- the problem was the mythtv-frontend package14:16
Raspberrydoesn't eixst14:16
Raspberryis there anyway to test a CDROM drive in Linux?14:19
RaspberryThe reason for my question is my ubuntu 8.04 box has stopped detecting media in the cdrom14:20
Raspberrycdrom drive14:20
Raspberryif I type "mount /media/cdrom" it says no media found14:21
Raspberrymedium found, sorry14:21
Raspberryit's the only CD drive in the system14:21
Raspberrysorry -- I should be asking this in #ubuntu... wrong channel :D14:21
DrHalan1hey14:43
DrHalan1i was wondering if its possible to make libnotify not overlay my gnome-panel14:43
DrHalan1but be position a bit more upwards14:44
LunksIf I switch over to another keyboard layout (phisically, from an ABNT2 to US-Intl) how can I change it on Intrepid?15:06
gnomefreakLunks: system > preferences > keyboard?15:23
gnomefreakim fairly sure it under preferences15:24
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alfonsC-x16:35
alfonsC-x16:35
gustavoHi. I'm testing Intrepid and my wireless connection doesn't work anymore. I have no clue on what I have to do to fix this. I already installed the relevant driver via the Restricted Drivers Manager and I also checked that the restricted modules for the kernel were installed. Why doesn't it work?16:37
gustavoThe WiFi LED on my laptop is on, but according to knetworkmanager "wireless is disabled" and I can't see anything in the list of available conections16:38
askandHow are these two specs going? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubiquity-visual-refresh and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/usb-installation-images ? I noticed they have the same Assignee and Drafter17:07
* penguin42 could do with some help and suggestions about debugging something to the point where I can file a useful set of bugs on Alpha 419:35
penguin42has anyone else seen a boot end up with a red screen? (after the language selection)19:36
penguin42ok, lets try a different one - hangs on heavy disc IO?19:54
tony_can someone help me. I'm getting ""/var/tmp/kdecache-tony" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0" when i try to install synaptic because adept won't work right either20:28
penguin42is your uid 1000 ?20:28
tony_penguin42: i'm not sure how i set that20:28
penguin42it's probably the default for the first user?20:29
tony_ok, yes it is20:29
tony_it shows 1000 in kde user manager20:29
tony_so do i just set the uid of kdecache-tony to uid 0 to make it work?20:29
tony_it seems anything requiring root permissions gives me probs. adept, nvidia driver install, etc20:30
* penguin42 would have thought that directory should be owned by your user, not root20:31
tony_yes, it says it's owned by me20:31
sliptteeshey...that's open Untitled window in firefox ever20:39
sliptteestest in hackint0sh.org webpage20:39
penguin42The manual install partitioner seems very very very basic20:58
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godzirraHowdy folks.22:09
rconanis there an easy way to dualboot intrepid with hardy?22:13
JontheEchidnainstall it on a separate partition22:15
godzirraI am trying to just get intrepid to boot on a laptop, and with noapic in the boot options, it gets to the ubuntu logo and then takes forever to boot.22:16
rconanactually... how big is the install? I might have a spare disk22:16
godzirraI've been waiting for probably... 10 minutes?22:16
rconanwhat's the likelyhood that upgrading to intrepid will completely mess up my computer? I like the idea of testing things and maybe contributing but would like a semi-usable environment22:30
kavonimo try the live cd if you want to test22:33
kavontheres a strong chance things will be broken, and trying to get work done will be a pain22:33
rbrunhuberIf Networkmanager is running i cannot connect to wireless networks. (Worked before)22:38
rbrunhuberI have to disable Networkmanager (sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManger stop) and start wpa_supplicant manually to get a connection.22:38
Teiseirbrunhuber: So you see the networks but can't connect, right ?22:48
rbrunhuberyes22:52
rbrunhuberTeisei: yes.22:52
TeiseiHave you tried NetworkManager alternatives like wicd ?22:53
TeiseiWicd works well on my laptop :)22:54
rbrunhuberTeisei: No i haven't because up to now everything worked fine with NM22:54
TeiseiDid it occur after an update ?22:55
rbrunhuberTeisei: I think so but I'm not 100% sure.22:55
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TeiseiIf it broke after an update ... well the best thing I think is to just wait for the next update that hopefully will fix the problem22:56
TeiseiWhat OS are your running ?22:56
TeiseiVersion of Ubuntu22:57
rbrunhuberTeisei: Kubuntu Intrepid22:57
TeiseiI'm running Ubuntu Intrepid22:58
TeiseiI wonder if it's just KDE22:59
rbrunhuberTeisei: I think I'm lucky I still have a old version of nm in /var/cache/apt/archives/. Maybe i should try to downgrade.22:59
TeiseiYou can also downgrade from Synaptic22:59
TeiseiYes22:59
rbrunhuberTeisei: I do a downgrade now. I will be back in a few minutes.23:00
TeiseiOk23:00
godzirrakavon:  I tried the live cd.. I can't get it to boot the livecd.23:01
rbrunhuber_Teisei: back again.23:08
rbrunhuber_did not work downgrading.23:08
TeiseiHmm23:08
TeiseiI wonder if it's the wpa-supplicant that's causing the problems ...23:08
TeiseiIf it for some reason is unable to work correctly when NM is active23:09
rbrunhuber_Teisei: I think it is networkmanager23:10
rbrunhuber_Teisei:  I see a lot of these in the logs: Invalid connection: 'NMSettingIP4Config' / 'method' invalid: 123:10
TeiseiIn dmesg or ?23:10
rbrunhuber_no /var/log/messages23:12
TeiseiStarting NM creates lines in /var/log/messages ?23:13
Teiseitail -f /var/log/messages23:13
rbrunhuber_Teisei: no but trying to associate.23:14
rbrunhuber_I'll retry tomorrow.23:16
TeiseiI searched Google for the error message ... nothing useful there :/23:16
TeiseiProgrammers will sort it out I think :]23:17
TeiseiThe mess23:17
rbrunhuber_Teisei: I tried google to ;-)23:17
TeiseiMaybe programmers are trying to solve the problem as we talk ...23:18
TeiseiSince it's already addressed23:19
sodokucan anyone help me getting my nvidia card to work?23:21
sodokunvidia-glx-177 is isntalled, but i only get the console23:21
TeiseiI have 173 installed23:22
TeiseiIt works better than 177 imo23:22
sodokuboth don't work for me23:24
sodokui updatet from hardy23:24
shingenwow, lotsa bugs... what's the beta timeline?23:37

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