=== Sergeant_Pony is now known as Pony_kb1ohy === echidnaman is now known as JontheEchidna === marko_ is now known as marko-_- [02:50] so.. [02:50] what kind of breakage is there in intrepid right now? [02:53] jscinoz: Aside from a few minor breakages (the fglrx driver, being the most notable), its pretty usable [02:53] alright thanks, might upgrade one of my boxes to give it a go :P [02:53] btw when is the freeze for new packages? [02:54] because i have a few of mine waiting for a sponsor in debian, so it'd be nice if i can get them into intrepid in themean time. [02:54] jscinoz: hmm... not sure [02:55] It's either the 27th or 28th [03:10] Does somebody know what the different artwork deadlines mean? [03:32] can't login after upgrade [03:32] any ideas how kubuntu fares in intrepid? I'm not sure if I should download the alpha 4 image, since I know kubuntu hardy had problems that ubuntu didn't... [03:40] JontheEchidna, of august or sept? [03:49] jscinoz: this month [04:26] oh darn [04:26] probably not gonna make it in then :P [04:26] oh well it can live on my ppa until intrepid+1 [04:29] jscinoz: There's always the option if FFe's, or you could ask for sponsorship directly. [04:35] RAOF, FFe? [04:35] Feature-freeze exception. [04:36] ah [04:36] who would i ask for sponsorship directly? [04:36] or do i just go through the normal upload to revu and wait process :P [04:36] Right. [04:36] >_< [04:36] We haven't been very good with revu this cycle. Sorry. [04:37] :P not a problem, just gonna go set up an intrepid vm to make sure it works fine on it [04:38] only been tested on sid. === gondim_ is now known as Andre_Gondim === Daisuke_Laptop is now known as Daisuke_Ido [08:47] How stable is Intrepid right now? i've been using ubuntu for years and I am comfortable with recovering from big problems.. Last I tried Alpha 2 and it was not very stable - is it worth me downloading alpha 4? has there been many improvements? [09:10] BonezAU: I'd say try it out in a virtual machine if you're that concerned but last I checked, it had a couple of problems that cramped it there too :/ [09:12] does anyone know if the nvidia drivers have been updated? I have a 9600GT that won't work with hardy [09:14] Yes [09:47] BonezAU: depends whether you run into particular bugs or not. [09:47] BonezAU: nvidia ---> may be a problem. try and see, if you like [09:48] I've read Ibex will offer an encrypted private directory for users. Is that only for new users or will upgrading to Ibex also create it to existing users? [09:48] good question [09:50] Hobbsee: I hope there will be a good answer, too :) [09:50] Lynoure: probably. i'd guess you want to ask that in #ubuntu-server, on a weekday. [09:51] kirkland should know. [09:51] as i think he's done the work on it [09:51] Hobbsee: The people who know about it are mostly only there, or is it a server-only feature? (more useful for laptops, I'd think) [09:52] the former [09:52] so, i'm not sure why the server guys did it. but i'm fairly sure tehy did. [09:54] Lynoure: I think there's a script which you just run and it sets it up. [09:54] Hobbsee: ok, thanks, I'll try to remember to ask them on Monday. [09:54] Lynoure: you're welcome [09:55] jpds: please tell me that the script does not start with a, and end in x, or something. [09:56] Hobbsee, Lynoure: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory [09:56] Hobbsee: "ecryptfs-setup-private" [09:57] jpds: so not automatically? [09:58] Lynoure: Planned is: "Hook PAM to use login password to unwrap an ecryptfs mount passphrase and automatically mount on login" according to the page. [09:58] jpds: that's mounting, not creating. [09:59] Lynoure: Yeah, and "ecyptfs-setup-private" does the creating. [09:59] jpds: I'd actually prefer it not to get mounted automatically, nor to use my login password [10:00] I'd feel security of it to be less if it uses the password people dutifully tend to enter to anything calling itself sudo, but I'm cynical in these things. =) [10:01] There'd probably be a way to tweak it; but kirkland would know best. [10:02] ok, thanks. [10:05] sweet [10:59] I want to try out intrepid in a VM but Vista takes up all my RAM.. I have a brand new PC with 4gb of ram.. sigh [10:59] * BonezAU pwned [10:59] If Vista is taking up all your RAM and you have 4GB then something is seriously wrong and it's not Vista. [11:00] well ok, I have 1.63gb left [11:00] I have a feeling if I was running XP on this machine i'd have 3gb left [11:02] No, you'd have 1.63GB left [11:09] I just upgraded my (freshly installed) virtualbox ubuntu hardy to intrepid. I get to the login (gdm), there's a mouse pointer but neither mouse nor keyboard input works.... Anyone got any ideas what to do? === DreamThi1f is now known as DreamThief === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [12:38] anyone tried out interpid on an Intel G45 board yet? [12:43] fatal_ i have the same problem try to do fresh install in vb [14:13] is the Net Installer for Alpha 4 completely broken? [14:14] is the Net Installer for Alpha 4 completely broken? [14:14] I can't "select / install" software [14:16] ok -- the problem was the mythtv-frontend package [14:16] doesn't eixst [14:19] is there anyway to test a CDROM drive in Linux? [14:20] The reason for my question is my ubuntu 8.04 box has stopped detecting media in the cdrom [14:20] cdrom drive [14:21] if I type "mount /media/cdrom" it says no media found [14:21] medium found, sorry [14:21] it's the only CD drive in the system [14:21] sorry -- I should be asking this in #ubuntu... wrong channel :D [14:43] hey [14:43] i was wondering if its possible to make libnotify not overlay my gnome-panel [14:44] but be position a bit more upwards [15:06] If I switch over to another keyboard layout (phisically, from an ABNT2 to US-Intl) how can I change it on Intrepid? [15:23] Lunks: system > preferences > keyboard? [15:24] im fairly sure it under preferences === LSD|Ninj1 is now known as LSD|Ninja [16:35] C-x [16:35] C-x [16:37] Hi. I'm testing Intrepid and my wireless connection doesn't work anymore. I have no clue on what I have to do to fix this. I already installed the relevant driver via the Restricted Drivers Manager and I also checked that the restricted modules for the kernel were installed. Why doesn't it work? [16:38] The WiFi LED on my laptop is on, but according to knetworkmanager "wireless is disabled" and I can't see anything in the list of available conections [17:07] How are these two specs going? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/ubiquity-visual-refresh and https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/usb-installation-images ? I noticed they have the same Assignee and Drafter [19:35] * penguin42 could do with some help and suggestions about debugging something to the point where I can file a useful set of bugs on Alpha 4 [19:36] has anyone else seen a boot end up with a red screen? (after the language selection) [19:54] ok, lets try a different one - hangs on heavy disc IO? [20:28] can someone help me. I'm getting ""/var/tmp/kdecache-tony" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0" when i try to install synaptic because adept won't work right either [20:28] is your uid 1000 ? [20:28] penguin42: i'm not sure how i set that [20:29] it's probably the default for the first user? [20:29] ok, yes it is [20:29] it shows 1000 in kde user manager [20:29] so do i just set the uid of kdecache-tony to uid 0 to make it work? [20:30] it seems anything requiring root permissions gives me probs. adept, nvidia driver install, etc [20:31] * penguin42 would have thought that directory should be owned by your user, not root [20:31] yes, it says it's owned by me [20:39] hey...that's open Untitled window in firefox ever [20:39] test in hackint0sh.org webpage [20:58] The manual install partitioner seems very very very basic === Sergeant_Pony is now known as Pony_KB1OHY [22:09] Howdy folks. [22:13] is there an easy way to dualboot intrepid with hardy? [22:15] install it on a separate partition [22:16] I am trying to just get intrepid to boot on a laptop, and with noapic in the boot options, it gets to the ubuntu logo and then takes forever to boot. [22:16] actually... how big is the install? I might have a spare disk [22:16] I've been waiting for probably... 10 minutes? [22:30] what's the likelyhood that upgrading to intrepid will completely mess up my computer? I like the idea of testing things and maybe contributing but would like a semi-usable environment [22:33] imo try the live cd if you want to test [22:33] theres a strong chance things will be broken, and trying to get work done will be a pain [22:38] If Networkmanager is running i cannot connect to wireless networks. (Worked before) [22:38] I have to disable Networkmanager (sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManger stop) and start wpa_supplicant manually to get a connection. [22:48] rbrunhuber: So you see the networks but can't connect, right ? [22:52] yes [22:52] Teisei: yes. [22:53] Have you tried NetworkManager alternatives like wicd ? [22:54] Wicd works well on my laptop :) [22:54] Teisei: No i haven't because up to now everything worked fine with NM [22:55] Did it occur after an update ? [22:55] Teisei: I think so but I'm not 100% sure. === araneina is now known as hibana [22:56] If it broke after an update ... well the best thing I think is to just wait for the next update that hopefully will fix the problem [22:56] What OS are your running ? [22:57] Version of Ubuntu [22:57] Teisei: Kubuntu Intrepid [22:58] I'm running Ubuntu Intrepid [22:59] I wonder if it's just KDE [22:59] Teisei: I think I'm lucky I still have a old version of nm in /var/cache/apt/archives/. Maybe i should try to downgrade. [22:59] You can also downgrade from Synaptic [22:59] Yes [23:00] Teisei: I do a downgrade now. I will be back in a few minutes. [23:00] Ok [23:01] kavon: I tried the live cd.. I can't get it to boot the livecd. [23:08] Teisei: back again. [23:08] did not work downgrading. [23:08] Hmm [23:08] I wonder if it's the wpa-supplicant that's causing the problems ... [23:09] If it for some reason is unable to work correctly when NM is active [23:10] Teisei: I think it is networkmanager [23:10] Teisei: I see a lot of these in the logs: Invalid connection: 'NMSettingIP4Config' / 'method' invalid: 1 [23:10] In dmesg or ? [23:12] no /var/log/messages [23:13] Starting NM creates lines in /var/log/messages ? [23:13] tail -f /var/log/messages [23:14] Teisei: no but trying to associate. [23:16] I'll retry tomorrow. [23:16] I searched Google for the error message ... nothing useful there :/ [23:17] Programmers will sort it out I think :] [23:17] The mess [23:17] Teisei: I tried google to ;-) [23:18] Maybe programmers are trying to solve the problem as we talk ... [23:19] Since it's already addressed [23:21] can anyone help me getting my nvidia card to work? [23:21] nvidia-glx-177 is isntalled, but i only get the console [23:22] I have 173 installed [23:22] It works better than 177 imo [23:24] both don't work for me [23:24] i updatet from hardy [23:37] wow, lotsa bugs... what's the beta timeline?