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[01:07] <calc> 16GB DDR3 dimms, drool :)
[01:07] <calc> http://www.engadget.com/2008/08/22/16gb-hynix-ddr3-ram-modules-demonstrated-at-idf/
[01:09] <ion_> Heh
[01:09] <bryce> calc, almost enough to run open office!!
[01:10] <calc> lol
[01:11] <calc> a few 16GB dimms and a large SSD, with a 8 core cpu, and i could build OOo in under 1hr :)
[01:11] <Nafallo> dual octacore
[01:12] <calc> Nafallo: yea that would be nice :)
[01:12] <calc> aiui the intel chips for 2011(?) should have 8 core
[01:13] <calc> nehalem will have up to 6 core but not on desktops aiui
[01:16] <slangasek> you know, when I lived in Iowa I loved Intel's naming scheme
[01:17] <slangasek> now I live in Oregon and I hate it, because I keep thinking people are talking about local stuff, not chips
[01:22] <calc> yea the Core 2 Duo was named after my hometown in Texas
[01:26] <cathyal> is there a channel for storage discussion
[01:26] <cathyal> doubts
[02:27] <slangasek> bigon: in bug #255307, Cody left a conditional at the end of his SRU ack... :)  do you agree to his terms, or do I need to check with him later to confirm whether he was joking? :)
[02:27] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 255307 in pymsn "Can't connect to msn accounts" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/255307
[02:34] <wgrant> It's specified as part of the SRU process.
[02:34] <wgrant> One cannot not agree to it.
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[02:59] <bigon> slangasek: yeah I will keep a look a this package, but It cannot be worst, changes to the msn server completely broke pymsn
[03:01] <albertito> hi! the sauerbraten package is broken (aptitude says so, it seems a dumb dependency issue)
[03:01] <albertito> I was about to write a bug for it, but I thought I should ask on irc first, just in case
[03:02] <albertito> is this the right channel?
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[04:27] <pwnguin> is there anything left of an apparmor upstream?
[05:34] <saivann> Hi, I'd like to ask ubuntu developers to consider the removal of the compiz blacklist on ati driver. This could be discussed as according to compiz official blacklist and launchpad users comments, a few graphic cards really have problems.
[05:35] <saivann> I also suggest this since there is not proprietary driver for ATI so far in intrepid (at least for the machines that I tested), so that means that a high proportion of computers are currently not able to use compiz without a tweak
[05:37] <saivann> Removing the blacklist on ati driver would also help to identify which graphic cards are really problematic.
[05:38] <saivann> So I wanted to suggest discussion on this, and if it's not the appropriate place, to ask when and where this can be discussed (if you want it)
[05:38] <saivann> (or if this is possible)
[05:42] <saivann> bug 197135
[05:42] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 197135 in compiz "need to blacklist xpress200m when using ati driver" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/197135
[09:52] <Hobbsee> saivann: if you actually wanted discussion with ubuntu developers on something, you'd do *much* better to actually ask at a time where they're likely to be here.
[09:52] <Hobbsee> saivann: like, during the european working week, or something.
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[13:19] <emgent> moin
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[14:17] <bazaar> hi. how do i get a newer version of SCons into the ubuntu package repositories? should i post a request (where?) ??
[14:17] <bazaar> i the hardy repos there's 0.97 and the most recent stable is 1.0
[14:20] <GyrosGeier> hi
[14:20] <GyrosGeier> I'm looking for Geir Helland
[14:21] <devfil> DktrKranz: you are the last uploader of scons package, can you merge the new 1.0.0-1 version from Debian?
[14:22] <devfil> you are also the Debian maintainer :D
[14:22] <DktrKranz> really? :)
[14:22] <devfil> DktrKranz: I haven't seen lol
[14:24] <bazaar> come again?
[14:25] <DktrKranz> bazaar, if you wan to merge it, go ahead
[14:26] <bazaar> don't i need some permissions?
[14:27] <DktrKranz> I need too, scons is in main :)
[14:27] <DktrKranz> you need sponsoring, as usual :)
[14:30] <GyrosGeier> well
[14:31] <GyrosGeier> if anyone sees Geir Helland, please tell him that his email is bouncing
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[16:43] <Chipzz> bazaar: not going to happen
[16:44] <Chipzz> bazaar: a release, once shipped, doesn't do arbitrary upgrades of packages "just because a newer version is available"
[16:45] <bazaar> so the only way to get an update for scons is from their website?
[16:45] <persia> Chipzz: Right, but we could certainly get the newer version in intrepid, no?
[16:45] <Chipzz> that would be a really bad idea
[16:46] <Chipzz> persia: he wanted it in hardy
[16:46] <Chipzz> or at least I got that impression
[16:46] <bazaar> there is a newer version in hardy (0.98) but not the latest, as the latest is 1.0
[16:46] <bazaar> sry: meant intrepid.
[16:46] <Chipzz> !release
[16:46] <ubottu> Ubuntu releases a new version every 6 months. Each version is supported for 18 months to 5 years. More info at http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/releases & http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TimeBasedReleases
[16:47] <persia> bazaar: Right.  As mentioned before, if you're up for the merge, and submit a debdiff, we'll try to review it.
[16:47] <persia> Anyway, hardy should only be 0.97.0d20071203-1ubuntu1, not 0.98
[16:48] <bazaar> so i'll have to stick for example to the MOTU vids on youtube, get that debdiff up, submit it, and w8?
[16:48] <persia> bazaar: Essentially, yes.
[16:49] <persia> bazaar: Also, if you need help, you'll want to ask in #ubuntu-motu
[16:49] <bazaar> ok. cool. if i'll merge scons for hardy, does it go to hardy oder hardy-updates?
[16:50] <pwnguin> probably hardy-backports?
[16:51] <persia> bazaar: You want to merge for intrepid.  Once complete, and if accepted, you can request a backport.  Personally, I doubt it will be backported because of the number of build-dependencies.
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[20:42] <sistpoty> bryce: I'm just about to merge libxfont, but I'm not exactly sure about the speedo/type1 thingy. do we want that in? (http://packages.debian.org/changelogs/pool/main/libx/libxfont/libxfont_1.3.3-1/changelog)
[20:44] <sistpoty> (it's basically --disable-type1 --disable-speedo passed to configure)
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[21:02] <bryce> sistpoty: is there a bug report or mailing list discussion associated with that change?  sounds curious to me too
[21:03]  * sistpoty looks
[21:06] <sistpoty> bryce: none that I can find in dbts/debian-x ml...
[21:06] <sistpoty> bryce: I guess jcristau might know more
[21:14] <bryce> sistpoty: yeah, it'd be nice to know the rationale on that; are they being deprecated or is it a space issue, or...?
[21:16] <sistpoty> bryce: well, apart from the changelog entry, I don't know anything about it... esp. I'm not too sure if this is not causing regressions (cf. thread at http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2008/08/msg00307.html)
[21:16] <Nafallo> why are gimp-python in ubuntu-desktop's depends?
[21:17] <Nafallo> should be recommends if something...
[21:23] <bryce> sistpoty: I notice jcristau says in that thread, "Because you don't want to use the type1 module anyway." so sounds like it's deprecated
[21:23] <bryce> I wonder why
[21:23] <sistpoty> bryce: yeah, so do I
[21:23] <bryce> sistpoty: anyway, I think you're good to merge in that change.  We can always revert it easily if needed.
[21:24] <sistpoty> bryce: ok, then I'll upload it (heh, I just filed a bug with my debdiff, since I'm sure I won't be able to make an upload during next week *g*)
[21:24]  * sistpoty just tests restarting X... brb
[21:26] <sistpoty> works like a charm for me :)
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