=== asac_ is now known as asac === gondim_ is now known as Andre_Gondim === tuxmaniac is now known as slytherin === slytherin is now known as tuxmaniac === Mamarok is now known as markey === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === Mamarok_ is now known as Mamarok [13:13] morning cody-somerville [13:16] Morning === asac_ is now known as asac [13:48] @schedule [13:48] Schedule for Etc/UTC: 25 Aug 04:00: Arizona LoCo IRC | 26 Aug 15:00: Server Team | 27 Aug 17:00: QA Team | 27 Aug 22:00: Platform Team | 28 Aug 12:00: Ubuntu Mobile Team | 28 Aug 13:00: Desktop Team [13:48] Waz happen to Xubuntu meeting? :-( [13:53] No love [13:55] Argh [13:55] Package 'dbus-1', required by 'xfconf', not found [13:55] Finally [13:55] :-] [13:56] * NCommander uploads beta7 [13:56] :-/ [14:02] I dunno how long I can stay for the meeting so lets get started as soon as possible :-] [14:03] Well [14:03] Give it another minute [14:03] Then we'll start [14:04] Is it worth having a meeting with what, two people? [14:07] cody-somerville, I'll chair if you feel the meeting is worth it [14:07] that's three [14:07] hi there [14:08] * Myrtti gets her glasses and microwaves some coffee [14:08] sweet [14:08] that's enough for me [14:08] #startmeeting [14:08] #startmeeting [14:08] :] [14:08] MootBot seems broken [14:08] #startmeeting [14:08] * cody-somerville nods. [14:09] So, lets go over the follow up items [14:10] * NCommander makes sure mr_pouit and Myrtti are still with us [14:10] not that I can contribute much, but yes [14:10] One of us should log the chat [14:10] Since the bot is broken [14:10] I guess we should start with recent events [14:10] I'm logging [14:10] hold on, checking [14:11] yes, it's logging [14:11] We have a new Xubuntu-developer who shall remain nameless for his own safety [14:11] ;-) [14:12] Anyway, the first note here on the list is the Team Updates section (Packaging/etc.) [14:12] xfce4.6-beta is mostly packaged, but beyond that, I got nothing [14:12] * Myrtti gets her laptop to burn ibex alt xubuntu installation disc to install on the laptop [14:13] I've been working with upstream [14:13] Ah, so I have you to thank for all the patches going upstream [14:13] (I was able to remove almost 10-20 patches across the board since they rolled upstream) [14:13] qdj [14:13] *ack, netsplit [14:13] I think this 4.6 alpha is the result of my prodding [14:13] \o/ [14:13] We lost of mr_prouit [14:14] And now they are back [14:14] \o/ [14:14] mr_pouit, wb from the otherside of the split ;-) [14:14] https://edge.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive - current packaged xfce 4.6 beta is in the xubuntu-dev PPA [14:14] In the artwork department, jmakz has an updated gdm theme that has yet to be updated [14:15] Everything is packaged and works (ignore the xfprint failure, I just fixed that), [14:15] Also, the xubuntu meta package needs uploading from and our branch needs merging with core-devs [14:15] Come again? [14:15] NCommander, xubuntu-meta needs uploading [14:16] That's the meta packages that allows for easy updating if memory serves, right? [14:16] Its xubuntu-desktop binary package [14:16] Oh [14:16] I'm not too familar with that part of the packaging, I'm still new here [14:17] what's the hold up on that? [14:17] I just need to get it done [14:18] If you shove the sources somewhere, I can roll one for xfce4.6 [14:18] (its on my todo list once the last modules roll) [14:18] It needs to be uploaded to the release achive :-] [14:18] *archive [14:18] and it is a script [14:18] We need to work out the xfce 4.4 rdpepends when we roll 4.6 [14:18] A lot of the internal libraries got shuffled around [14:18] So that's going to be nasty [14:18] Okay. [14:19] *-mcs is history, we have THREE new packages (xfconf, menu, and xfsettings) [14:19] Okay. [14:19] Once everything is confirmed and packaged, I'm going to drop xubuntu-devel/xubuntu-tester emails inviting them to beta test 4.6 beta [14:19] Splendid. [14:20] The only outstanding issue is a few man pages need to be authored [14:20] I'll offer mentoring on the task, but I have no real interest in writing them [14:20] * cody-somerville nods. [14:20] hmmm [14:20] Good idea [14:20] O [14:20] That's all I got for team updates [14:20] I'm a fairly newb, would this be something that I could do as a starters? [14:21] Myrtti, if you are good at writing, it should be fairly straight forward [14:21] documenting and such is one of my few fortes [14:21] Wait until Xfce 4.6 rolls though [14:21] make sure your an xubuntu-tester on LP [14:21] I know about nothing but I might want to give it a try if there is someone to mentor me through the process [14:21] I'll enroll right away [14:21] Catch me after the meeting [14:22] Ok, so thats the basis of Team Updates [14:22] Now we have two outstandings from the last meeting [14:22] * cody-somerville nods. [14:22] goffice without the -gtk variant [14:22] I know nothing on this, any ideas? [14:22] Thats done [14:22] * NCommander scratchs it [14:22] How about possibly removing xfve4-session [14:22] I don't think we should do that anymore [14:23] (I should note I already updated and merged patches for 4.6 ;-)) [14:23] but we should consider making session saving disabled by default [14:23] What was the motivation behind that [14:23] That I will agree to [14:23] The motivation is that upstream plans to deprecate it anyhow in the future because of problems with it [14:23] It means we'll need a new logout panel [14:23] Since xfce-session supplies that [14:24] Right [14:24] We'll put it to a vote on the list (although I guess we need an Xubuntu/Voting/Policy ;-)) over it [14:25] Ok, goals for Xubuntu 8.10 [14:26] Standard disclaimer: Freeze date is in a week [14:26] I have a patch to make starting Xfce4 faster [14:27] I'm going to play with it today or tomorrow [14:27] Can we get it rolled upstream, or should we shove it in our packaging? [14:27] It'll probably make it for 4.6 [14:27] but 4.4 is frozen [14:27] so we'll shove it in our packaging [14:27] Do you want me to roll it and drop it in -testers for beta testing, or shall you? [14:30] Are we going to roll 4.6 for 8.10? [14:30] (it doesn't look like a final will be available in time though) [14:32] * cody-somerville nods. [14:32] I have to run for breakfast [14:32] I guess concludes that [14:32] We can compare notes when you return === nizarus_ is now known as nizarus