[10:47]  * gnomefreak wonders *thinks*
[12:16] <gnomefreak> YAY i might have lucked out with smuxi ;)
[12:16] <gnomefreak> ill be back later to check on it
[13:05] <gnomefreak> anyone here?
[13:16] <bdrung> gnomefreak: yes
[13:44] <gnomefreak> is it possbile to add 1 file to be cleaned in rules?
[13:44] <gnomefreak> outside of normal clean command it has
[13:44] <gnomefreak> bdrung: asac ^^
[13:45] <bdrung> gnomefreak: example?
[13:45] <gnomefreak> smartirc4net-0.4.5.1/bin/Meebey.SmartIrc4net.dll.mdb
[13:46] <gnomefreak> for some reason its not removing that file during clean
[13:46] <gnomefreak> during build nor with fakeroot debian/rules clean
[13:47] <gnomefreak> im sure nobinonly would be best way but its only one file
[13:48] <gnomefreak> give me a minute and ill post the clean section of rules
[13:49] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/523476 is full rules file
[13:49] <bdrung> add something like "rm -rf bin/Meebey.SmartIrc4net.dll.mdb"?
[13:49] <gnomefreak> will rules take a command like that?
[13:49] <bdrung> yes
[13:50] <bdrung> or "-rf bin/Meebey.SmartIrc4net.dll.mdb" should also work
[13:50] <gnomefreak> bdrung: before or after the clean section?
[13:51] <gnomefreak> i guess after would work since ther is no close to clean
[13:51] <bdrung> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/523488
[13:51] <gnomefreak> ah thanks
[13:51] <bdrung> dropped the -r, because recursive is only useful for directories
[13:52] <bdrung> if this does not work, add "rm"
[13:52] <gnomefreak> ok ill try it
[13:53] <gnomefreak> rm -f *-stamp
[13:53] <gnomefreak> f bin/Meebey.SmartIrc4net.dll.mdb
[13:53] <gnomefreak> make: f: Command not found
[13:53] <gnomefreak> so i might have to it didnt fail yet
[13:54] <gnomefreak> althought its not there
[13:55] <gnomefreak> seems to have worked thanks bdrung
[13:55] <gnomefreak> nope it didnt
[13:56] <bdrung> gnomefreak: the - is missing
[13:56] <bdrung> -f bin/Meebey.SmartIrc4net.dll.mdb
[13:56] <gnomefreak> using rm worked
[13:57] <gnomefreak> i added it with -f
[13:57] <gnomefreak> rm -f *-stamp
[13:57] <gnomefreak> rm -f bin/Meebey.SmartIrc4net.dll.mdb
[14:06] <gnomefreak> for some reason dpkg-build* isnt signing the .dsc
[14:08] <gnomefreak> clean chroot or normal system it fails to sign them so i cant upload them :(
[14:12] <bdrung> gnomefreak: are your email-adress in debian/changelog?
[14:13] <gnomefreak> yep
[14:13] <gnomefreak> it only asks for password once
[14:13] <gnomefreak> for tar
[14:14] <gnomefreak> than just fails and never asks for second passowrd
[14:15] <gnomefreak> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/523521 bdrung here is end of build
[14:15] <gnomefreak> seems agent issue but doesnt give any help towards it
[14:17] <bdrung> hardy or intrepid?
[14:17] <gnomefreak> intrepid
[14:17] <gnomefreak> hardy works fine
[14:17] <bdrung> probably a bug
[14:18] <gnomefreak> im trying killing gpg-agent
[14:18] <gnomefreak> nope
[14:19] <gnomefreak> Unable to locate package gpg-agent
[14:20] <gnomefreak> gnupg-agent is there
[14:26] <bdrung> if you give me a debdiff i can test it on my machine
[14:29] <gnomefreak> gonna be hard since its not in our repos
[14:30] <gnomefreak> i have to push to bzr anyway
[14:44] <gnomefreak> hmmmm this is gonna take a while
[14:57] <bdrung> gnomefreak: ping me when you have pushed it
[14:58] <gnomefreak> bdrung: it will be tomorrow most likely
[14:58] <gnomefreak> waiting on LP to do something for me with it
[14:58] <bdrung> gnomefreak: PPA?
[14:59] <gnomefreak> bdrung: no. projects i cant push to PPA without a signed .dsc .diff
[14:59] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmmm
[14:59] <bdrung> a right
[15:00] <gnomefreak> mayb ei can push
[15:00] <bdrung> for what are you waiting then?
[15:02] <gnomefreak> metaproject but im pushing anyway
[15:02] <gnomefreak> https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~gnomefreak/smartirc4net/ubuntu-0.x
[15:02] <gnomefreak> thats branch
[15:04] <bdrung> ok, i will test it
[15:04] <gnomefreak> thanks
[15:06] <gnomefreak> and pushing smuxi so i can grab them after cleaning $HOME
[15:07] <bdrung> will need some time. i fight with kvm
[15:07] <gnomefreak> take your time if i leave befor eyou get a chance just catch up with me tomorrow
[15:08]  * gnomefreak might make a lenny chroot while im at it
[20:29] <XioNoX> Hey!
[20:49] <asac> hey
[21:10] <asac> hmm ... how could i listen for all GObject instance creations?
[21:19] <[reed]> asac: so, I use network-manager-openvpn for connecting to Mozilla's various VPNs... it works great, except that after a little while, I lose the ability to resolve any hosts from the VPN due to my local DHCP server causing /etc/resolv.conf to be overwritten... I just discovered resolvconf today, but I don't know if it will help or hurt. Thoughts? I see multiple bugs filed on this not working right, and frankly, it's kinda sad that th
[21:19] <[reed]> is doesn't, as it's pretty important. bug 247257, bug 229912, etc.
[21:19] <asac> [reed]: 0.6?
[21:20] <[reed]> I have Hardy
[21:20] <[reed]> whatever Hardy has
[21:20] <asac> I lose the ability to resolve any hosts from the VPN due to my local DHCP server
[21:20] <asac> ^^ what does that mean? local DHCP server?
[21:21] <asac> [reed]:
[21:21] <[reed]> means I only use the VPN for certain IP ranges (I don't redirect-gateway)
[21:21] <[reed]> most of my traffic goes through my normal connection and uses my normal nameservers
[21:22] <asac> [reed]: ok. how that "normal" connection setup? using NM as well?
[21:22] <[reed]> yes
[21:22] <[reed]> just wired connection
[21:22] <[reed]> DHCP
[21:22] <[reed]> nothing special
[21:23] <asac> [reed]: so when you initially connect to VPN is overwrites your resolv.conf with the DNS servers you got from VPN, right? ... and those are ok. then a bit later you end up having your "normal" DNS entries again?
[21:23] <[reed]> yes
[21:23] <asac> is that because of lease update?
[21:24] <[reed]> not sure... probably?
[21:24] <[reed]> I haven't tracked down exactly when it happens
[21:24] <[reed]> just that it works for a while, and then stops working, which means I have to disconnect VPN and reconnect
[21:24] <[reed]> for it to work again
[21:24] <asac> NM 0.6 DNS handling isnt really sophisticated and cannot be tuned. only thing i find strange is that you suddenly get your "normal" DNS entries back
[21:25] <Nafallo> ♥ NM0.7
[21:25] <asac> let me check how resolvconf support is implemented in 0.6 ... havent used that for a while
[21:25] <asac> Nafallo: does openvpn work? ... i got mixed feedback on that VPN type
[21:25] <Nafallo> no idea.
[21:25] <[reed]> resolvconf makes stuff worse, apparently
[21:25] <[reed]> I just removed it
[21:25] <Nafallo> but it works great on my EeePC as well ;-)
[21:26] <Nafallo> I just tweaked the setup a bit :-)
[21:26] <asac> [reed]: I'd say that if 0.7 works for you it will fix this issue for sure
[21:26] <asac> i mean if openvpn works.
[21:27] <Nafallo> normal hardy in the bottom, three PPAs on top (Terminator, NM0.7, UNR), BenC's next kernel rc3 running below everything.
[21:27] <[reed]> asac: does Intrepid have 0.7?
[21:27] <asac> [reed]: intrepid + hardy PPA
[21:27] <asac> its default in intrepid
[21:27] <asac> http://launchpad.net/~network-manager/+archive
[21:28] <Nafallo> asac: also. plz to bump gimp-python to Recommends in ubuntu-desktop, kthxbai ;-)
[21:28] <asac> Nafallo: why do you say that to me ;)?
[21:28] <Nafallo> asac: core and stuff :-P
[21:29] <Nafallo> asac: and opinion...
[21:29] <[reed]> asac: how easy will I be able to revert if this doesn't work?
[21:29] <[reed]> easily*
[21:30] <asac> [reed]: downgrading all packages that get updated through that PPA should be enough
[21:30] <[reed]> how do I downgrade?
[21:30] <asac> most likely downgrading all NM packages will be enough
[21:31] <asac> [reed]: sudo apt-get install network-manager=<old-version> libnm-util0=<old-version> libnm-glib0=<old-version> network-manager-gnome=<old-version> network-manager-openvpn=<old-version>
[21:31] <asac> and maybe wpasupplicant=<old-version>
[21:31] <asac> [reed]: at best dont add the PPA lines and run:
[21:32] <asac> sudo apt-get install --reinstall network-manager libnm-util0 libnm-glib0 network-manager-gnome network-manager-openvpn wpasupplicant
[21:32] <asac> that should download all current packages and you will have them in cache for the worst-case-scenario (that you dont have any net)
[21:32] <asac> but its unlikely that you dont have any network due to this
[21:33] <asac> highest risk is that you end up having no vpn (chances are 50/50 that it works)
[21:33] <[reed]> ok, I'll try it tomorrow maybe
[21:33] <asac> hehe
[21:34] <[reed]> maybe on my other laptop
[21:34] <[reed]> hmm
[21:34] <asac> [reed]: ok resolvconf should make NM not change your resolv.conf at all
[21:34] <asac> (in 0.6)
[21:34] <[reed]> ah
[21:34] <[reed]> yes, that's what it did
[21:34] <[reed]> which was annoying
[21:35] <asac> [reed]: can you send me a syslog that captures the time when you revert back to "local" dns only
[21:35] <asac> that sounds a bit wierd imo.
[21:35] <asac> most complains i received were about the opposite: e.g. nm shouldnt overwrite the local dns when connected to VPN
[21:36] <[reed]> it just happened
[21:36] <asac> [reed]: yes. i think it probably happens from outside of NM
[21:36] <[reed]> Aug 23 15:35:43 jarodplus dhclient: DHCPREQUEST of <null address> on eth0 to 1.2.3.4 port 67
[21:36] <[reed]> Aug 23 15:35:43 jarodplus dhclient: DHCPACK of 5.6.7.8 from 1.2.3.4
[21:36] <[reed]> Aug 23 15:35:43 jarodplus NetworkManager: <info>  DHCP daemon state is now 3 (renew) for interface eth0
[21:36] <[reed]> Aug 23 15:35:43 jarodplus dhclient: bound to 5.6.7.8 -- renewal in 3513 seconds.
[21:36] <asac> [reed]: do you have anything in your interfaces ?
[21:37] <[reed]> and that's when it rewrote /etc/resolv.conf back to my local nameservers
[21:37] <asac> yeah
[21:38] <[reed]> reed@jarodplus:~$ cat /etc/network/interfaces
[21:38] <[reed]> auto lo
[21:38] <[reed]> iface lo inet loopback
[21:38] <[reed]> #iface eth0 inet dhcp
[21:38] <[reed]> auto eth0
[21:39] <asac> [reed]: hmm. ok i think that should be fine
[21:39] <asac> [reed]: what is in /etc/dhcp3 ?
[21:39] <[reed]> reed@jarodplus:/etc/dhcp3$ ls
[21:39] <[reed]> dhclient.conf  dhclient-enter-hooks.d  dhclient-exit-hooks.d  dhcpd.conf
[21:40] <[reed]> don't think I've personally touched any of these files
[21:40] <asac> true. what is in the hooks directories? is there resolvconf?
[21:41] <[reed]> in enter, yes
[21:41] <[reed]> but then again, I just installed resolvconf for the first time today
[21:41] <asac> [reed]: move that away. probably thats what is overwriting your thing
[21:41] <[reed]> and then I removed it
[21:41] <asac> [reed]: yeah
[21:41] <asac> [reed]: sudo apt-get remove --purge resolvconf
[21:41] <asac> [reed]: try to purge it
[21:41] <asac> then that file should go away
[21:42] <[reed]> yep
[21:42] <asac> [reed]: gone?
[21:42] <[reed]> yes, but that wouldn't be causing my problem, as obviously, it wasn't installed until today
[21:42] <[reed]> and I've had this problem for over a year
[21:43] <asac> [reed]: you sure you never had resolvconf installed at some point in the past?
[21:43] <asac> that file is a hook that overwrites your resolv.conf when dhclient gets a lease
[21:43] <[reed]> unknown, but I doubt it
[21:45] <[reed]> anyway, we'll see
[21:45] <[reed]> I'll let you know if it happens again
[21:45] <asac> [reed]: yes. for me it makes sense that that script causes exactly the behaviour you described
[21:46] <asac> if that doesnt fix it, trying NM 0.7 might be worth it.
[21:46] <[reed]> k
[23:43] <IdleOne> how come when I right click on a url in xchat it opens the link in epiphany browser? ( ubuntu 8.10 )
[23:53] <Nafallo> 8.10?
[23:53] <Nafallo> I want to use software from the future too! :-)