| ompaul | PriceChild, next visitor for you | 00:10 |
|---|---|---|
| ompaul | not mine | 00:10 |
| ompaul | kojv with channel ctcp ping | 00:10 |
| PriceChild | hmm k | 00:10 |
| KOJV | I'm sorry, didn't know that channel ping ain't allowed. Will you please unban me? Thank you. | 00:17 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, ^^ | 00:20 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, look at the ip before you pass judgement | 00:20 |
| * ompaul hands off | 00:21 | |
| KOJV | ompaul, what's with my ip? :S | 00:21 |
| ompaul | you changed ip | 00:22 |
| KOJV | ompaul, oh. Yeah, that's because I had the wrong cable inserted so that my identd wouldn't work. | 00:22 |
| KOJV | ompaul, I have to get the ban lifted anyway though, else I'll be banned for evading. | 00:22 |
| ompaul | wrong attitude | 00:23 |
| ompaul | or right attitude | 00:23 |
| ompaul | maybe | 00:23 |
| ompaul | I give up, please don't e3ngage me | 00:23 |
| KOJV | ompaul, it's the wrong attitude to ask for my ban to be lifted before I rejoin the channel?? :-o | 00:23 |
| PriceChild | KOJV: why did you want to ping the channel? | 00:23 |
| KOJV | PriceChild, because there was no answer, I needed to see if I was caught in a bad lag. | 00:23 |
| ompaul | in conversation | 00:23 |
| PriceChild | KOJV: So you decided the best way to do that was ping 1000 people at once? | 00:24 |
| KOJV | PriceChild, I didn't realize there were so many users in the channel. | 00:24 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, I have to crash catch you later | 00:25 |
| PriceChild | KOJV: I think you should be much more careful with commands which you don't understand when connected to large networks. | 00:25 |
| PriceChild | ompaul: have fun | 00:25 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, cheers | 00:25 |
| nickrud | PriceChild, thanks for the email :) | 00:25 |
| KOJV | PriceChild, well, I'm usually on large networks but seldomly in such huge channels. Again, I'm sorry and it won't happen again. | 00:26 |
| nickrud | I pity the council, having to choose only 2 of those 4 | 00:26 |
| PriceChild | nickrud: we don't choose | 00:26 |
| nickrud | PriceChild, cc I meant | 00:26 |
| PriceChild | nickrud: they don't really choose either | 00:26 |
| nickrud | ? Thought they did, but whomever is going to have some real juggling on their hands | 00:27 |
| PriceChild | nickrud: the ircc and cc can both take candidates off the list, and technically the cc could nominate someone outright, but they will probably do a vote and whoever wins gets the seats | 00:27 |
| PriceChild | KOJV: one mo | 00:28 |
| KOJV | ompaul, btw, why not engage you? Since you were the one to set the ban.... | 00:28 |
| PriceChild | KOJV: he's had to leave | 00:28 |
| KOJV | PriceChild, okay. | 00:28 |
| PriceChild | @btlogin | 00:28 |
| Pici | KOJV: our channel bots are the one who set the ban actually, ompaul just removed you from the channel. | 00:28 |
| Pici | Hrm.. gmail seems to be doing weird things with the link to my wiki... /me checks in another browser | 00:28 |
| KOJV | Pici, okay, this "remove" feature, how does it work? Does other networks have it? | 00:28 |
| Pici | KOJV: Many just use a standard kick, freenode's ircd is a bit different though | 00:29 |
| * KOJV has never been removed before... only kicked. | 00:29 | |
| KOJV | Pici, ok. | 00:29 |
| PriceChild | KOJV: operators can force users to part effectively, rather than kick them. It is preferable for several reasons, more help about it can be found in #freenode. | 00:29 |
| KOJV | PriceChild, okay, thanks. | 00:30 |
| KOJV | PriceChild, will you remove the ban though? | 00:30 |
| PriceChild | KOJV: as a formality, could you just read the guidelines for #ubuntu please, then I'll remove the ban | 00:30 |
| PriceChild | !guidelines | 00:30 |
| ubottu | The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines | 00:30 |
| KOJV | PriceChild, sure thing. | 00:31 |
| KOJV | PriceChild, okay, done. | 00:33 |
| PriceChild | KOJV: you're free to join #ubuntu. | 00:33 |
| KOJV | Thank you PriceChild. | 00:35 |
| Pici | PriceChild: I always thought of you as Joseph, not Joe... /me needs to fix his brain or something now. | 00:39 |
| PriceChild | Pici: I go by many names. | 00:39 |
| Pici | I go as Ben or Benjamin, but never Benji. | 00:40 |
| PriceChild | Some call me... Shatoon, bringer of corn. | 00:40 |
| Pici | Well... thats just odd. | 00:41 |
| Pici | Anyway, food time. | 00:41 |
| PriceChild | Others call me Mickey Nine, the dream weaver. | 00:41 |
| elkbuntu | if idimmu returns and i'm not here, tell him i saw his apology in scrollback and thanked him | 00:52 |
| ompaul | please note that I left a certain ip from in.comcast | 07:21 |
| Flannel | heh | 07:22 |
| ompaul | jpds did you really want to do this one %*!*@cpc1-cmbg9-0-0-cust648.cmbg.cable.ntl.com | 07:22 |
| ompaul | it was also bfed to here | 07:23 |
| jpds | ompaul: Hmm, no. I was just removing bans from my list at @btlogin. | 07:24 |
| ompaul | jpds, I remove stuff that is older than one week unless you have something like that netsplit midweek | 07:24 |
| jpds | *!*@cpc1-cmbg9-0-0-cust648.cmbg.cable.ntl.com!#ubuntu-ops jpds Aug 06 2008 18:16:29 | 07:25 |
| ompaul | ;-) | 07:26 |
| jpds | z_ back in #u-ot. | 08:43 |
| ompaul | jpds, keep an eye on #ubuntu I have to run | 08:54 |
| Myrtti | ho -hum | 09:24 |
| Myrtti | PriceChild: ping | 09:29 |
| * Myrtti sighs | 09:30 | |
| * Myrtti curses | 09:30 | |
| Myrtti | I'll go and have a bath before I strangle someone over ethernet. | 09:31 |
| Myrtti | or make a long-distance phone call and cry my eyes out. | 09:32 |
| Gary | whats up Myrtti :'( | 09:42 |
| Myrtti | lets just say although IRC is a big part of my life, I still never thought IRC should be more important than not fainting with stress induced high blood pressure. | 09:43 |
| Gary | point to point punching over ethernet so needs to be invented | 09:43 |
| Myrtti | sorry folks. | 09:43 |
| Myrtti | somehow it strikes me also odd that Pricey signs his emails with "Joe". somehow I've always felt he's too young to be "Joe" | 09:45 |
| bazhang | Myrtti, IRC is so not worth that level of stress. | 09:45 |
| Gary | maybe it should be master Joe | 09:45 |
| nalioth | Gary: it's FSOIP you need to be working on | 09:46 |
| Myrtti | It's not IRC that makes my blood pressure high | 09:46 |
| bazhang | cant be helping though | 09:46 |
| Gary | fs? | 09:46 |
| Myrtti | well that's sort of the point | 09:46 |
| Myrtti | Face Stab | 09:46 |
| Gary | ahhh | 09:46 |
| bazhang | over ip haha | 09:46 |
| bazhang | I started taking garlic daily about a year ago and significantly reduced my BP | 09:47 |
| Gary | Myrtti: if it is that bad, take a short break? | 09:47 |
| Myrtti | for my own selfesteem and mental health I have to think IRC is a stress factor that I can cut out of my life | 09:47 |
| Gary | :'( | 09:47 |
| Myrtti | so if I /part irc channels, it's usually a sign I've got more acute and stressful things going on | 09:47 |
| bazhang | or just completely clean out the problem elements in -ot | 09:48 |
| Myrtti | ie. work, relationships, health | 09:48 |
| nalioth | where are your furry animals, Myrtti ? | 09:48 |
| bazhang | for a while at least. | 09:48 |
| Myrtti | but anyway... | 09:48 |
| * Myrtti sighs at her w.u.c -page | 09:48 | |
| Myrtti | I need a warm an lovely papaya smelling bath. | 09:48 |
| * elkbuntu cuddles Myrtti | 09:48 | |
| bazhang | there are even tablets that are odorless (ie garlic) | 09:49 |
| Myrtti | bazhang: omega fatty acids and vitamin D for me | 09:49 |
| * Myrtti pops her vegan capsules | 09:49 | |
| Myrtti | ridiculously more expensive than non-vegan ones, but they make me happy | 09:49 |
| Myrtti | nalioth: fighting in their cage | 09:50 |
| Gary | Myrtti: furry animals, what make and model? | 09:50 |
| Myrtti | http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2729982644/ guinea pigs | 09:51 |
| Gary | awww | 09:53 |
| nalioth | i recently got a cat, and it thinks that love bites and appreciative flesh clawings are acceptable forms of affection | 09:53 |
| Gary | sure are | 09:54 |
| Gary | and bringing home slightly dead wildlife, as presents | 09:55 |
| nalioth | nah, it never goes outside ( probably why it bites and claws me at random moments ) | 09:55 |
| Gary | maybe it thinks it's a tiger | 09:56 |
| nalioth | and i can't repeat its name here ( or in proper company ) | 09:56 |
| Myrtti | nalioth: most of the time a cat claws you when it's in your lap, it reminisces being a kitten and suckling to a teat. pushing your thig resembles trying to push more milk to it's mouth. | 09:56 |
| nalioth | the cat doesn't like laps. it's just insane. | 09:56 |
| Myrtti | pink moka pot coffee and french fries! | 09:57 |
| elkbuntu | nalioth, did you get a cat, or did the cat get a human? | 09:57 |
| nalioth | it was palmed off on me instead of going to the pound, elkbuntu | 09:57 |
| elkbuntu | aha | 09:57 |
| nalioth | no, i'm not a cat person | 09:58 |
| elkbuntu | i didnt pick you as one | 09:58 |
| elkbuntu | mind you, the cat probably has too | 09:58 |
| elkbuntu | hence the claws and teeth | 09:59 |
| nalioth | but so long as it stays out of my way (and doesn't bite or claw too much) we'll get along just fine | 09:59 |
| Myrtti | I'm sure it will | 09:59 |
| Myrtti | cats are like that | 09:59 |
| nalioth | well, off to have another go at old insomnia ( it's 4:00am here ) | 10:01 |
| * Myrtti sighs again and tries to decide what to do | 10:02 | |
| Gary | Myrtti: go out for walkies | 10:04 |
| Myrtti | perhaps after breakfast and that bath | 10:09 |
| Myrtti | moar coffee? | 10:25 |
| Gary | please | 10:28 |
| * Myrtti pours | 10:29 | |
| Gary | yay coffee | 10:32 |
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| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| Myrtti | having a bath with my blood pressure wasn't a good idea | 11:42 |
| * elkbuntu huggles Myrtti | 11:43 | |
| Myrtti | I think I'll go lie down on the floor. At least I can't drop any lower from there. | 11:45 |
| elkbuntu | :( | 11:46 |
| elkbuntu | feeling all droopy and sleepy now? | 11:47 |
| ikonia | go sleep then | 11:47 |
| Myrtti | Droopy yeah, sleepy no | 11:48 |
| elkbuntu | aww | 11:48 |
| elkbuntu | coffee? | 11:48 |
| ikonia | I am a problem solver | 11:48 |
| ikonia | tired = sleep | 11:48 |
| Myrtti | 15 mins should do | 11:48 |
| Myrtti | Will dress and get some ice lollies when I feel better | 11:49 |
| Myrtti | Will someone smack lsdninja at ot | 11:51 |
| Myrtti | Thanks | 11:51 |
| PriceChild | Myrtti: for when you get back, PONG!!! | 12:01 |
| PriceChild | uuuu amarok2 is nice | 12:12 |
| ikonia | PriceChild: anything specific stands out ? | 12:13 |
| PriceChild | well i'm using it under gnome and it feels shiny | 12:13 |
| PriceChild | its also a lot less cluttered, lots less options | 12:15 |
| PriceChild | where are my micde | 12:16 |
| PriceChild | mice | 12:16 |
| ikonia | I may give it a go | 12:16 |
| PriceChild | makes me tempted to just switch to kde4.1 | 12:18 |
| PriceChild | just to make it look even shinier | 12:18 |
| elkbuntu | heh | 12:19 |
| ikonia | kde is never that shiny that it's worth it | 12:23 |
| elkbuntu | ikonia, it's worth a vm | 12:24 |
| elkbuntu | when i get my vm setup going | 12:24 |
| PriceChild | vm setup? you mean you don't just randomly put virtualbox ones all over the place? | 12:24 |
| ikonia | elkbuntu: maybe...... | 12:25 |
| elkbuntu | ikonia, e17 is worth a vm too... but im not going to run a system with it | 12:25 |
| ikonia | ahh E17 is old news, never worth effort | 12:25 |
| elkbuntu | well, offtopic is decidedly sane at the moment | 12:28 |
| ikonia | good | 12:28 |
| elkbuntu | now, if only debian would install on this box | 12:28 |
| elkbuntu | maybe unplugging the usb mouse wasnt such a smart idea | 12:29 |
| elkbuntu | once i get this box up to monitor the network, i can get this pc up with vmware or some such | 12:31 |
| elkbuntu | this stupid ralink chip needs to diaf too | 12:34 |
| PriceChild | I liked my ralink chips, which one have you got | 12:35 |
| Myrtti | I want to stomp my atheros to pieces | 12:37 |
| Myrtti | I've compiled madwifi-hal so many times yesterday I'm planning to install Ibex on my laptop | 12:37 |
| PriceChild | I also like the atheros that I'm using atm. You're both mad. | 12:38 |
| elkbuntu | PriceChild, whatever one is inside a DWL-G122 B1 | 12:38 |
| Myrtti | i've got AR242* | 12:38 |
| Myrtti | it sucks. | 12:38 |
| Myrtti | http://madwifi.org/ticket/1192 does nothing for me | 12:38 |
| elkbuntu | PriceChild, 2500 i believe | 12:38 |
| PriceChild | elkbuntu: that's a nice old one that works nicely? | 12:39 |
| PriceChild | install module-assistant, and install the driver for it there | 12:39 |
| elkbuntu | PriceChild, sure, i can get debian and hardy to see the device... just not associate | 12:39 |
| elkbuntu | PriceChild, funnily enough, i need to get on the network to do that | 12:39 |
| PriceChild | pfft no you don't | 12:39 |
| PriceChild | just copy packages onto a usb pen | 12:40 |
| elkbuntu | PriceChild, deps? | 12:40 |
| PriceChild | there's only half a dozen | 12:40 |
| PriceChild | use packages.ubuntu to work out deps, and its pretty obvious which ones aren't installed by default | 12:40 |
| PriceChild | well i guess its not pretty obvious | 12:40 |
| elkbuntu | i want debian on the box | 12:40 |
| Myrtti | woo, I found spray-on leave-in conditioner \o/ | 12:40 |
| elkbuntu | so packages.debian instead | 12:40 |
| PriceChild | no idea about that then | 12:40 |
| elkbuntu | PriceChild, as i said. it recognises, and can see access points... just not be nice enough to attach | 12:41 |
| Myrtti | yeah | 12:43 |
| Myrtti | the latest madwifi with my ar242* does see the access points and can connect to the unencrypted ones, but not wpa2? | 12:43 |
| Myrtti | it sucks badly | 12:43 |
| elkbuntu | Myrtti, this one wont even touch unencrypted atm | 12:44 |
| PriceChild | I have an ar2413 <3 | 12:44 |
| * Myrtti shows her tongue to PriceChild | 12:44 | |
| elkbuntu | i did actually get it on once... but it could only see in the lan, but not google... then i broke that | 12:44 |
| elkbuntu | so reinstalling debian yet again | 12:44 |
| elkbuntu | i suspect that was when i tried wep | 12:45 |
| Myrtti | I'm on fail train | 12:46 |
| Myrtti | I've lost my best hair brush | 12:46 |
| elkbuntu | aww | 12:46 |
| PriceChild | elkbuntu: have you disabled all encryption on the ap and started off trying to associate to that? | 12:47 |
| elkbuntu | PriceChild, yes | 12:47 |
| elkbuntu | about to do it again, since i try not to leave it in said state | 12:48 |
| * elkbuntu dares the install to die again | 12:55 | |
| Myrtti | there's something wrong with my xubuntu-ibex-alternate-amd64 torrend | 12:55 |
| Myrtti | torrent | 12:55 |
| Myrtti | no peers. | 12:56 |
| Myrtti | :-< | 12:56 |
| elkbuntu | yay, didnt die this time | 13:01 |
| Myrtti | I hereby challenge the users of Intrepid Ibex and owners of data cable and a phone to participate: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kaijanmaki/+archive | 13:05 |
| elkbuntu | ooh, is this the thing to integrate the vodafone thing into NM? | 13:08 |
| Myrtti | partly yes | 13:08 |
| elkbuntu | ooooh | 13:08 |
| Myrtti | he's one of my this summers "Kids" | 13:08 |
| PriceChild | I guess because you're doing that on an n95, that it should work perfectly for me. | 13:08 |
| Myrtti | also my latest and first recruitment to Nomovok | 13:09 |
| Myrtti | PriceChild: even if you test if you get the settings right, would be nice | 13:09 |
| Myrtti | comments can be /msg Wellark | 13:10 |
| PriceChild | I'm only on Hardy :( | 13:10 |
| Myrtti | I tried that on hardy | 13:10 |
| Myrtti | works on it too | 13:10 |
| Myrtti | but I'm not sure if it's the new network manager that broke my wlan | 13:10 |
| Myrtti | or the new kernel | 13:10 |
| PriceChild | uuu launchpad can do dependent ppas now | 13:11 |
| PriceChild | i'm out oftouch | 13:11 |
| * Myrtti goes to get those ice lollies | 13:19 | |
| elkbuntu | PriceChild, wanna know something stupid? | 13:32 |
| PriceChild | sure | 13:33 |
| elkbuntu | i only downloaded the first debian cd, right, because i only want a simple install. | 13:33 |
| elkbuntu | everything including module-assistant was on there | 13:33 |
| elkbuntu | except: html2text and debhelper | 13:33 |
| elkbuntu | i cant understand why neither are on that disk | 13:33 |
| elkbuntu | if they're like so important for installing a freaking kernel module | 13:34 |
| elkbuntu | and this still doesnt work :( | 13:41 |
| elkbuntu | in fact, it changed absolutely nothing | 13:41 |
| * elkbuntu tries a reboot | 13:42 | |
| elkbuntu | Ienorand, can we help? | 13:51 |
| Ienorand | Hi, I'm having trouble joining #ubuntu from #ubuntu-proxy, it says I have access and should try to join but I just get back to #*u-proxy | 13:52 |
| elkbuntu | aha, the floodbots must have gotten tangled in the last netsplits | 13:53 |
| elkbuntu | sec | 13:53 |
| elkbuntu | Ienorand, try leaving -proxy and joining it again please | 13:53 |
| Ienorand | cheers | 13:54 |
| Ienorand | nice, works fine now, thanks! | 13:55 |
| elkbuntu | floodbot1 is the only one who exempts, else they all fight over who gets to and it gets messy ;) | 13:55 |
| elkbuntu | floodbot3 somehow stole power of #ubuntu | 13:55 |
| elkbuntu | oh, btw, this is an idle-free zone for non-ops. | 13:56 |
| Ienorand | oh right, bye | 13:57 |
| elkbuntu | enjoy | 13:57 |
| Myrtti | question of the day | 14:09 |
| Myrtti | did I remember the milk | 14:09 |
| elkbuntu | ugh, of course it made no difference, 2500 is pci/pcmcia, 2570 is usb | 14:12 |
| elkbuntu | i have usb | 14:12 |
| elkbuntu | hrm... watch wols. he's being his usual rude self today | 14:15 |
| elkbuntu | YAY! | 14:18 |
| elkbuntu | I HAS WIFI | 14:18 |
| elkbuntu | hell yeah | 14:18 |
| elkbuntu | stupid thing telling me i had rt2500 when i had rt2570 | 14:18 |
| PriceChild | is it usb? | 14:19 |
| elkbuntu | yeah | 14:19 |
| PriceChild | ah yes, usb then | 14:19 |
| elkbuntu | i was misreading stuff | 14:19 |
| PriceChild | didn't realise it made a difference though | 14:19 |
| elkbuntu | clearly | 14:19 |
| PriceChild | :D | 14:19 |
| elkbuntu | ya | 14:19 |
| * elkbuntu has debian! :D | 14:19 | |
| elkbuntu | pretty crap reception | 14:20 |
| elkbuntu | ah, no, router just messes with pings to it | 14:21 |
| elkbuntu | now, encryption kthx | 14:22 |
| Myrtti | perhaps I should see my doctor about this blood pressure, it's really not normal at all | 14:25 |
| elkbuntu | Myrtti, it is probably wise | 14:26 |
| elkbuntu | it's only making you miserable | 14:26 |
| Myrtti | yup | 14:27 |
| * Myrtti sighs | 14:55 | |
| elkbuntu | hrm, it's not working now :( | 15:16 |
| Myrtti | is it possible to indent in moinmoin? | 15:25 |
| pleia2 | Myrtti: http://moinmo.in/HelpOnLists | 15:28 |
| * Myrtti is a MediaWiki brat | 15:29 | |
| ompaul | Myrtti, what is that about mediawiki :) | 15:36 |
| * ompaul runs | 15:36 | |
| ompaul | I gotta do stuff l8r | 15:37 |
| Myrtti | ta-tah | 15:37 |
| * Myrtti looks at her w.u.c page more content | 15:53 | |
| Myrtti | hm. that ibex disk doesn't seem to be going anywhere in the burn | 15:54 |
| * elkbuntu is hunting for a terminal emulator that isnt tied to a DE and isnt as horrid as xterm or eterm | 16:18 | |
| * Myrtti points at terminator | 16:18 | |
| elkbuntu | that wants to pull half of gnome in | 16:19 |
| * Myrtti shrugs | 16:19 | |
| elkbuntu | i dont want half of gnome | 16:20 |
| Myrtti | I've used it happily with xfce | 16:20 |
| elkbuntu | i'mm sure you have, but i dont want half of gnome :P | 16:20 |
| ompaul | aterm | 16:31 |
| ompaul | tbh they are all nuts | 16:32 |
| elkbuntu | ugh, no tabbing | 16:35 |
| elkbuntu | ooh, roxterm, i think i'll try that one | 16:43 |
| ompaul | konsole | 16:48 |
| * ompaul rusn | 16:48 | |
| * ompaul runs | 16:48 | |
| * elkbuntu trips ompaul over and kicks him in the kidneys | 16:48 | |
| ompaul | I see you appeal to the spirit of ubuntu there ;-) | 16:48 |
| ompaul | wterm | 16:49 |
| elkbuntu | :) | 16:49 |
| elkbuntu | no, roxterm is good | 16:49 |
| ompaul | mrxvt | 16:49 |
| elkbuntu | no | 16:49 |
| ompaul | now there is a cookie | 16:49 |
| elkbuntu | <3 openbox | 17:02 |
| bazhang | oh gosh | 17:42 |
| bazhang | asking others to vnc into their systems for help | 17:43 |
| Myrtti | oh dear lord | 17:57 |
| Myrtti | remind me why I'm at IRCnet's #ubuntu.fi again | 17:58 |
| PriceChild | I want more ops again. | 17:58 |
| ompaul | PriceChild, that enough? | 18:01 |
| PriceChild | very good | 18:01 |
| * ompaul hides behind Nafallo | 18:01 | |
| * ompaul admits it is not very good someone my size hiding behind him, but maybe someone will say this is not the beard you are looking for and I will escape | 18:02 | |
| ompaul | MUHAHAHAHAHAHA | 18:02 |
| Myrtti | oh dear god | 18:05 |
| Myrtti | I'm *NOT* going to say how I read the line * ompaul hides behind Nafallo | 18:06 |
| * Myrtti blushes | 18:06 | |
| Myrtti | nevermind, carry on | 18:06 |
| ompaul | we did already | 18:06 |
| Myrtti | jolly good. | 18:06 |
| bazhang | ops for where PriceChild | 18:07 |
| * jussi01 walks in | 18:10 | |
| * Myrtti huggles jussio1 | 18:10 | |
| Myrtti | damned tabcomplete | 18:10 |
| jussi01 | hehe | 18:10 |
| * jussio1 hugs Myrtti | 18:11 | |
| jussi01 | :D | 18:11 |
| * Myrtti has xubuntu intrepid alpha on her laptop and she regrets it already | 18:12 | |
| PriceChild | Myrtti: how come? | 18:13 |
| PriceChild | bazhang: just in general. | 18:13 |
| Myrtti | PriceChild: networkmanager is poop. | 18:13 |
| bazhang | ok thanks PriceChild | 18:13 |
| PriceChild | Myrtti: is it the gnome one? | 18:13 |
| Myrtti | yup | 18:14 |
| Myrtti | I've also forgotten how ugly this is before tweaking | 18:16 |
| Myrtti | oh dear | 18:30 |
| Myrtti | meatballs gone crazy | 18:30 |
| * Myrtti curses loudly | 19:03 | |
| PriceChild | Hey zenwhen, whats up? | 19:05 |
| * tritium consoles Myrtti | 19:06 | |
| zenwhen | Hi PriceChild | 19:06 |
| zenwhen | How have you been | 19:07 |
| PriceChild | I'm good. | 19:07 |
| Seveas | <level1> rand0m: by which he means #ubuntu-cafe | 19:23 |
| Seveas | new offtopic chan or trolls spamming? | 19:23 |
| Myrtti | please tell me again why I installed Ibex on the laptop? | 19:25 |
| Myrtti | hm, he apparently misremembered the name | 19:27 |
| Myrtti | perhaps that channel could be dropped or forwarded to -offtopic? | 19:27 |
| Myrtti | if it's not already | 19:27 |
| Myrtti | there's only him there | 19:27 |
| Myrtti | PriceChild, nalioth? | 19:27 |
| Seveas | you're right, he corrected himself a few lines later | 19:28 |
| Seveas | nothing to see here, please walk on :) | 19:28 |
| * Myrtti grunts | 19:36 | |
| ubottu | Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu (TheMaxzilla away messages) | 19:40 |
| * Flannel sees an argument approaching in #u between Sev and Gnea | 19:40 | |
| bazhang | heh | 19:41 |
| * bazhang puts his money on Seveas | 19:41 | |
| * Myrtti just almost passed out with pain | 19:47 | |
| bazhang | Myrtti, oh no. | 19:47 |
| Myrtti | I was sitting on the floor on a pillow and apparently managed to sit on the pillow in a way that really hit the piriformis muscle | 19:48 |
| Myrtti | that was fun | 19:48 |
| bazhang | please take a break Myrtti | 19:48 |
| Myrtti | well I'm not sitting on the floor again | 19:48 |
| Myrtti | :-D | 19:48 |
| bazhang | we always miss you when you are away, but nothing is more important than your health | 19:48 |
| Myrtti | I should stretch more | 19:49 |
| bazhang | those eggshell deals are great for back problems | 19:49 |
| Myrtti | too bad I'm living on oatmeal gruel this month | 19:50 |
| Myrtti | oh well. | 19:50 |
| Myrtti | what was I doing again | 19:50 |
| Myrtti | I'm starting to believe intrepid is as useful at this stage as a barrel full of hammers. | 19:52 |
| Flannel | Myrtti: actually, I could use a barrel of hammers for quite a few things | 19:54 |
| Myrtti | well, my friend does know how to cheer me up | 19:55 |
| Myrtti | he has been using gentoo for a while now | 19:55 |
| Myrtti | tried to install the new X server | 19:55 |
| Myrtti | after almost everything was compiled, he realized he's been doing i486 stage3, not i686 | 19:56 |
| Myrtti | and now he has to compile everything all over again | 19:56 |
| nalioth | Go! Gentoo! | 19:58 |
| nalioth | i've never understood the need to compile for a home OS | 19:58 |
| nalioth | if you're building a render farm, go for it | 19:58 |
| Myrtti | I want to jump and kill my laptop | 19:59 |
| nalioth | go pet a guinea pig instead | 20:01 |
| Myrtti | on the other hand, I really do love rsync | 20:05 |
| nalioth | rsync rocks | 20:19 |
| ubottu | Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu (beam) | 20:28 |
| ubottu | Gnea called the ops in #ubuntu (beam) | 20:29 |
| Flannel | sigh | 20:29 |
| Myrtti | indeed | 20:30 |
| Flannel | Gnea is always a bit heavy with the factoids | 20:30 |
| Flannel | he'll throw repeat and then patience at you. | 20:31 |
| Myrtti | hm | 21:43 |
| Myrtti | apparently webkit is broken. | 21:44 |
| ompaul_ | ff3 has been in there since June :) | 22:00 |
| ompaul_ | topic change | 22:00 |
| ompaul_ | hmm tell me that nick is not taking the proverbial | 22:16 |
| ompaul_ | #u | 22:16 |
| ubottu | In ubottu, erUSUL said: pulseflash is <reply>If you use puseaudio (you should be using it on hardy) you can make flash play sounds at the same time that other aps doing «sudo apt-get install libflashsupport» | 22:45 |
| Pici | hm | 22:47 |
| Pici | ompaul_: was that needed? | 23:03 |
| ompaul_ | the first warning was the bot | 23:03 |
| ompaul_ | the second one was remove | 23:03 |
| ompaul_ | the next one is ban | 23:04 |
| Myrtti | now he's on -ot :-< | 23:04 |
| PriceChild | I don't like the ultimatix factoid. | 23:04 |
| Myrtti | !ultimatix | 23:04 |
| ubottu | ultamatix is not supported by Ubuntu. It can cause system damage and should not be used, if you need support with it please go to http://forumubuntusoftware.info/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1365 for support. If you refer or suggest users install Ultamatix you are subject to a warning the first time, a removal from channel for second time and a ban for the third time. | 23:04 |
| Pici | !-ultamatix | 23:04 |
| ubottu | ultamatix aliases: ultramatix - added by Flannel on 2008-07-29 20:03:09 - last edited by gnomefreak on 2008-07-30 13:06:12 | 23:04 |
| Pici | hrm. | 23:04 |
| Pici | neither do I. | 23:05 |
| Pici | !automatix | 23:05 |
| ubottu | Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported, or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubottu WorksForMe » | 23:05 |
| ompaul_ | Pici, the problem is the running battles that you will have if you try to do the logical thing with that software | 23:06 |
| ompaul_ | you will be trolled | 23:06 |
| ompaul_ | the removal should cause exactly the response needed | 23:06 |
| Pici | I respectfully disagree. We should be informing people, not punishing them when they ask about using that. | 23:07 |
| ompaul_ | Pici, who wrote the factoid? | 23:08 |
| * ompaul_ is a bit clumsy | 23:08 | |
| Pici | ompaul_: see above | 23:08 |
| Myrtti | since when has stupidity been bannable offence? and I mean plain stupidity, not stubborness as it usually is the case with troublemakers | 23:08 |
| ompaul_ | ack | 23:08 |
| ompaul_ | ok so then make it a mute | 23:09 |
| ompaul_ | and we chat with them | 23:09 |
| ompaul_ | as in no remove, however it will be implied | 23:09 |
| PriceChild | I don't think factoids should be the place for threats/operator guidelines. | 23:09 |
| Pici | no ultamatix is <reply> Ultamatix is not recommended, supported, or needed by Ubuntu. Please do not suggest its use in this channel. See !automatix for more information? | 23:09 |
| Pici | Does that sound good? | 23:09 |
| Pici | PriceChild: Agreed. | 23:09 |
| * ompaul_ must be getting old and cynical | 23:11 | |
| ompaul_ | ok the first is a given | 23:11 |
| ompaul_ | Ultamatix is not recommended, it is not supported, or for that matter needed by Ubuntu. Please Do Not suggest its use in this channel. | 23:12 |
| ompaul_ | if you are going to point to !automatix remember that mjg now works for RH | 23:13 |
| ompaul_ | it might be embarrassing at some level at some time | 23:13 |
| nalioth | link !automatix to it | 23:14 |
| ompaul_ | I feel you are asking to be trolled | 23:14 |
| erUSUL | inbitado34 banned from #ubuntu for asking about ultimatix ? | 23:14 |
| ompaul_ | no | 23:14 |
| Pici | !ultamatix | 23:14 |
| ompaul_ | muted | 23:14 |
| ubottu | Ultamatix is not recommended, supported, or needed by Ubuntu. Use of this software may cause damage to your Ubuntu install. Do not suggest its use in this channel. | 23:15 |
| erUSUL | was * | 23:15 |
| ompaul_ | sorry removed | 23:15 |
| Pici | nalioth: will do. | 23:15 |
| erUSUL | ompaul_: ok | 23:15 |
| erUSUL | may i ask why ? | 23:15 |
| ompaul_ | erUSUL, see what the bot said | 23:16 |
| ompaul_ | ubottu> ultamatix is not supported by Ubuntu. It can cause system damage and should not be used, if you need support with it please go to http://forumubuntusoftware.info/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1365 for support. If you refer or suggest users install Ultamatix you are subject to a warning the first time, a removal from channel for second time and a ban for the third time. | 23:16 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu-ops, ompaul_ said: ubottu> ultamatix is not supported by Ubuntu. It can cause system damage and should not be used, if you need support with it please go to http://forumubuntusoftware.info/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1365 for support. If you refer or suggest users install Ultamatix you are subject to a warning the first time, a removal from channel for second time and a ban for the third time. | 23:16 |
| ompaul_ | ubottu, botsnack | 23:16 |
| ubottu | Yum! Err, I mean, APT! | 23:16 |
| ompaul_ | exactly mr garrett works for Red Hat these days ;-) | 23:16 |
| Pici | So? | 23:16 |
| ompaul_ | I found it funny | 23:17 |
| PriceChild | forumubuntusoftware.info? | 23:17 |
| ompaul_ | no | 23:17 |
| ompaul_ | they got it or can get it | 23:17 |
| ompaul_ | you would not point to getautomatix | 23:17 |
| Pici | PriceChild: requires you to login to even see that page... | 23:17 |
| Pici | !automatix | 23:18 |
| ubottu | Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported, or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubottu WorksForMe » | 23:18 |
| Pici | er | 23:18 |
| Pici | !ultamatix | 23:18 |
| ubottu | Ultamatix is not recommended, supported, or needed by Ubuntu. Use of this software may cause damage to your Ubuntu install. Do not suggest its use in this channel. See !automatix for more info. | 23:18 |
| * ompaul_ sees that as wrong but anyways | 23:18 | |
| Pici | Why? | 23:19 |
| * Myrtti gives boys a cookie | 23:19 | |
| Myrtti | you too, ompaul | 23:19 |
| * ompaul_ munches | 23:19 | |
| Pici | Myrtti: ty :) | 23:19 |
| ompaul_ | ta | 23:19 |
| ompaul_ | Pici, the guy no longer works for canonical | 23:19 |
| Pici | So we can't link to the analysis that he made of Automatix? | 23:19 |
| Myrtti | ompaul_: I don't see it as a problem | 23:19 |
| Myrtti | I don't understand why it would be a problem | 23:20 |
| Myrtti | he made the analysis before starting to work for RH | 23:20 |
| ompaul_ | I know that | 23:20 |
| Myrtti | I don't mind people referencing to my work I've done on COSS | 23:20 |
| Myrtti | I'm fairly sure that if he'd see referencing to that as a problem, he would've taken the entry down | 23:21 |
| Myrtti | of course, someone could ask | 23:21 |
| ompaul_ | now then, I am almost happy ;-) | 23:21 |
| Myrtti | ompaul_: since you are so worried, why don't *you* ask him :-P | 23:22 |
| * Myrtti hides | 23:22 | |
| ompaul_ | I am not worried, I considered it bad form to assume | 23:22 |
| ompaul_ | that was all | 23:23 |
| ompaul_ | he is part of the community, he did that job as part of his day to day work - he may feel the need to move on and it might be a legacy thing he no longer wants to be hanging around, automatix is dead so why keep its memory alive with that | 23:24 |
| * ompaul_ chooses to shut up now | 23:25 | |
| Pici | If we don't remember the past, we are doomed to repeat it., | 23:25 |
| ompaul_ | Pici, now if I was to reply to that I would have to say "happy trolldom with the gentle factoid", we had this with automatix it was a clock cycle consumer | 23:26 |
| ompaul_ | but that was only if I was to reply | 23:26 |
| ompaul_ | so given I didn't ;-) | 23:26 |
| ompaul_ | /nick angry_clueless_op | 23:28 |
| ompaul_ | Pici, which is by the way me agreeing with, "if we don't remember the past" | 23:32 |
| ompaul_ | automatix took so much energy it was sad | 23:32 |
| ompaul_ | and given who is involved, we really have to think the same energy is required to deal with them again | 23:33 |
| ompaul_ | so therein lies my "logic" for supporting the initial factoid | 23:34 |
| Myrtti | ompaul_: if the damned thing had had the decency to stay dead and buried, I'd agree with you | 23:34 |
| Myrtti | but since it's risen from the ashes like the black crow of doom... | 23:34 |
| ompaul_ | Myrtti, and the gentle factoid will only encourage people to push barriers | 23:34 |
| Myrtti | it still not be encouraged or supported | 23:35 |
| ompaul_ | the first one is plain and simple - if you say this you are being a .... -therefore we will sanction you | 23:35 |
| Myrtti | ompaul_: we never had that kind of factoid for automatix | 23:35 |
| Myrtti | why should we have one now for ultamatix? | 23:35 |
| Myrtti | we all and many others sure made it clear automatix wasn't supported in #ubuntu | 23:36 |
| ompaul_ | to prevent the impact that the softly softly approach that automatix encouraged | 23:36 |
| ompaul_ | we had running battles for a while | 23:36 |
| ompaul_ | yes indeed folks the hazy summer of 06 and the battles royal for channel control | 23:37 |
| ompaul_ | being called Seveas's lackeys ;-) | 23:37 |
| ompaul_ | actually it was 05 | 23:38 |
| ompaul_ | but whatever | 23:38 |
| nalioth | i don't think we should treat it like an exploit, but it is close | 23:40 |
| ompaul_ | nalioth, broken boxes are not exploited? | 23:41 |
| ompaul_ | that sounds like a company I know of where if no data is lost then it is not an outage ;-) | 23:41 |
| ompaul_ | and you know some kinds of data loss are not data loss | 23:41 |
| ompaul_ | :) | 23:41 |
| ompaul_ | I know of such a company | 23:41 |
| ompaul_ | and it is not where I work | 23:41 |
| nalioth | ompaul_: well, if i treated it like an exploit, i'd have to have a few more cars for the train | 23:42 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntuforums, nathangrubb said: !srcopq is <reply> starts resolution center thread on p_quarles | 23:42 |
| ompaul_ | well done nathan distracting me like that ;-) | 23:42 |
| ompaul_ | so we can agree to disagree on that one item | 23:50 |
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