[00:10] PriceChild, next visitor for you [00:10] not mine [00:10] kojv with channel ctcp ping [00:10] hmm k [00:17] I'm sorry, didn't know that channel ping ain't allowed. Will you please unban me? Thank you. [00:20] PriceChild, ^^ [00:20] PriceChild, look at the ip before you pass judgement [00:21] * ompaul hands off [00:21] ompaul, what's with my ip? :S [00:22] you changed ip [00:22] ompaul, oh. Yeah, that's because I had the wrong cable inserted so that my identd wouldn't work. [00:22] ompaul, I have to get the ban lifted anyway though, else I'll be banned for evading. [00:23] wrong attitude [00:23] or right attitude [00:23] maybe [00:23] I give up, please don't e3ngage me [00:23] ompaul, it's the wrong attitude to ask for my ban to be lifted before I rejoin the channel?? :-o [00:23] KOJV: why did you want to ping the channel? [00:23] PriceChild, because there was no answer, I needed to see if I was caught in a bad lag. [00:23] in conversation [00:24] KOJV: So you decided the best way to do that was ping 1000 people at once? [00:24] PriceChild, I didn't realize there were so many users in the channel. [00:25] PriceChild, I have to crash catch you later [00:25] KOJV: I think you should be much more careful with commands which you don't understand when connected to large networks. [00:25] ompaul: have fun [00:25] PriceChild, cheers [00:25] PriceChild, thanks for the email :) [00:26] PriceChild, well, I'm usually on large networks but seldomly in such huge channels. Again, I'm sorry and it won't happen again. [00:26] I pity the council, having to choose only 2 of those 4 [00:26] nickrud: we don't choose [00:26] PriceChild, cc I meant [00:26] nickrud: they don't really choose either [00:27] ? Thought they did, but whomever is going to have some real juggling on their hands [00:27] nickrud: the ircc and cc can both take candidates off the list, and technically the cc could nominate someone outright, but they will probably do a vote and whoever wins gets the seats [00:28] KOJV: one mo [00:28] ompaul, btw, why not engage you? Since you were the one to set the ban.... [00:28] KOJV: he's had to leave [00:28] PriceChild, okay. [00:28] @btlogin [00:28] KOJV: our channel bots are the one who set the ban actually, ompaul just removed you from the channel. [00:28] Hrm.. gmail seems to be doing weird things with the link to my wiki... /me checks in another browser [00:28] Pici, okay, this "remove" feature, how does it work? Does other networks have it? [00:29] KOJV: Many just use a standard kick, freenode's ircd is a bit different though [00:29] * KOJV has never been removed before... only kicked. [00:29] Pici, ok. [00:29] KOJV: operators can force users to part effectively, rather than kick them. It is preferable for several reasons, more help about it can be found in #freenode. [00:30] PriceChild, okay, thanks. [00:30] PriceChild, will you remove the ban though? [00:30] KOJV: as a formality, could you just read the guidelines for #ubuntu please, then I'll remove the ban [00:30] !guidelines [00:30] The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcGuidelines [00:31] PriceChild, sure thing. [00:33] PriceChild, okay, done. [00:33] KOJV: you're free to join #ubuntu. [00:35] Thank you PriceChild. [00:39] PriceChild: I always thought of you as Joseph, not Joe... /me needs to fix his brain or something now. [00:39] Pici: I go by many names. [00:40] I go as Ben or Benjamin, but never Benji. [00:40] Some call me... Shatoon, bringer of corn. [00:41] Well... thats just odd. [00:41] Anyway, food time. [00:41] Others call me Mickey Nine, the dream weaver. [00:52] if idimmu returns and i'm not here, tell him i saw his apology in scrollback and thanked him [07:21] please note that I left a certain ip from in.comcast [07:22] heh [07:22] jpds did you really want to do this one %*!*@cpc1-cmbg9-0-0-cust648.cmbg.cable.ntl.com [07:23] it was also bfed to here [07:24] ompaul: Hmm, no. I was just removing bans from my list at @btlogin. [07:24] jpds, I remove stuff that is older than one week unless you have something like that netsplit midweek [07:25] *!*@cpc1-cmbg9-0-0-cust648.cmbg.cable.ntl.com!#ubuntu-ops jpds Aug 06 2008 18:16:29 [07:26] ;-) [08:43] z_ back in #u-ot. [08:54] jpds, keep an eye on #ubuntu I have to run [09:24] ho -hum [09:29] PriceChild: ping [09:30] * Myrtti sighs [09:30] * Myrtti curses [09:31] I'll go and have a bath before I strangle someone over ethernet. [09:32] or make a long-distance phone call and cry my eyes out. [09:42] whats up Myrtti :'( [09:43] lets just say although IRC is a big part of my life, I still never thought IRC should be more important than not fainting with stress induced high blood pressure. [09:43] point to point punching over ethernet so needs to be invented [09:43] sorry folks. [09:45] somehow it strikes me also odd that Pricey signs his emails with "Joe". somehow I've always felt he's too young to be "Joe" [09:45] Myrtti, IRC is so not worth that level of stress. [09:45] maybe it should be master Joe [09:46] Gary: it's FSOIP you need to be working on [09:46] It's not IRC that makes my blood pressure high [09:46] cant be helping though [09:46] fs? [09:46] well that's sort of the point [09:46] Face Stab [09:46] ahhh [09:46] over ip haha [09:47] I started taking garlic daily about a year ago and significantly reduced my BP [09:47] Myrtti: if it is that bad, take a short break? [09:47] for my own selfesteem and mental health I have to think IRC is a stress factor that I can cut out of my life [09:47] :'( [09:47] so if I /part irc channels, it's usually a sign I've got more acute and stressful things going on [09:48] or just completely clean out the problem elements in -ot [09:48] ie. work, relationships, health [09:48] where are your furry animals, Myrtti ? [09:48] for a while at least. [09:48] but anyway... [09:48] * Myrtti sighs at her w.u.c -page [09:48] I need a warm an lovely papaya smelling bath. [09:48] * elkbuntu cuddles Myrtti [09:49] there are even tablets that are odorless (ie garlic) [09:49] bazhang: omega fatty acids and vitamin D for me [09:49] * Myrtti pops her vegan capsules [09:49] ridiculously more expensive than non-vegan ones, but they make me happy [09:50] nalioth: fighting in their cage [09:50] Myrtti: furry animals, what make and model? [09:51] http://www.flickr.com/photos/myrtti/2729982644/ guinea pigs [09:53] awww [09:53] i recently got a cat, and it thinks that love bites and appreciative flesh clawings are acceptable forms of affection [09:54] sure are [09:55] and bringing home slightly dead wildlife, as presents [09:55] nah, it never goes outside ( probably why it bites and claws me at random moments ) [09:56] maybe it thinks it's a tiger [09:56] and i can't repeat its name here ( or in proper company ) [09:56] nalioth: most of the time a cat claws you when it's in your lap, it reminisces being a kitten and suckling to a teat. pushing your thig resembles trying to push more milk to it's mouth. [09:56] the cat doesn't like laps. it's just insane. [09:57] pink moka pot coffee and french fries! [09:57] nalioth, did you get a cat, or did the cat get a human? [09:57] it was palmed off on me instead of going to the pound, elkbuntu [09:57] aha [09:58] no, i'm not a cat person [09:58] i didnt pick you as one [09:58] mind you, the cat probably has too [09:59] hence the claws and teeth [09:59] but so long as it stays out of my way (and doesn't bite or claw too much) we'll get along just fine [09:59] I'm sure it will [09:59] cats are like that [10:01] well, off to have another go at old insomnia ( it's 4:00am here ) [10:02] * Myrtti sighs again and tries to decide what to do [10:04] Myrtti: go out for walkies [10:09] perhaps after breakfast and that bath [10:25] moar coffee? [10:28] please [10:29] * Myrtti pours [10:32] yay coffee === SWAT__ is now known as SWAT === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [11:42] having a bath with my blood pressure wasn't a good idea [11:43] * elkbuntu huggles Myrtti [11:45] I think I'll go lie down on the floor. At least I can't drop any lower from there. [11:46] :( [11:47] feeling all droopy and sleepy now? [11:47] go sleep then [11:48] Droopy yeah, sleepy no [11:48] aww [11:48] coffee? [11:48] I am a problem solver [11:48] tired = sleep [11:48] 15 mins should do [11:49] Will dress and get some ice lollies when I feel better [11:51] Will someone smack lsdninja at ot [11:51] Thanks [12:01] Myrtti: for when you get back, PONG!!! [12:12] uuuu amarok2 is nice [12:13] PriceChild: anything specific stands out ? [12:13] well i'm using it under gnome and it feels shiny [12:15] its also a lot less cluttered, lots less options [12:16] where are my micde [12:16] mice [12:16] I may give it a go [12:18] makes me tempted to just switch to kde4.1 [12:18] just to make it look even shinier [12:19] heh [12:23] kde is never that shiny that it's worth it [12:24] ikonia, it's worth a vm [12:24] when i get my vm setup going [12:24] vm setup? you mean you don't just randomly put virtualbox ones all over the place? [12:25] elkbuntu: maybe...... [12:25] ikonia, e17 is worth a vm too... but im not going to run a system with it [12:25] ahh E17 is old news, never worth effort [12:28] well, offtopic is decidedly sane at the moment [12:28] good [12:28] now, if only debian would install on this box [12:29] maybe unplugging the usb mouse wasnt such a smart idea [12:31] once i get this box up to monitor the network, i can get this pc up with vmware or some such [12:34] this stupid ralink chip needs to diaf too [12:35] I liked my ralink chips, which one have you got [12:37] I want to stomp my atheros to pieces [12:37] I've compiled madwifi-hal so many times yesterday I'm planning to install Ibex on my laptop [12:38] I also like the atheros that I'm using atm. You're both mad. [12:38] PriceChild, whatever one is inside a DWL-G122 B1 [12:38] i've got AR242* [12:38] it sucks. [12:38] http://madwifi.org/ticket/1192 does nothing for me [12:38] PriceChild, 2500 i believe [12:39] elkbuntu: that's a nice old one that works nicely? [12:39] install module-assistant, and install the driver for it there [12:39] PriceChild, sure, i can get debian and hardy to see the device... just not associate [12:39] PriceChild, funnily enough, i need to get on the network to do that [12:39] pfft no you don't [12:40] just copy packages onto a usb pen [12:40] PriceChild, deps? [12:40] there's only half a dozen [12:40] use packages.ubuntu to work out deps, and its pretty obvious which ones aren't installed by default [12:40] well i guess its not pretty obvious [12:40] i want debian on the box [12:40] woo, I found spray-on leave-in conditioner \o/ [12:40] so packages.debian instead [12:40] no idea about that then [12:41] PriceChild, as i said. it recognises, and can see access points... just not be nice enough to attach [12:43] yeah [12:43] the latest madwifi with my ar242* does see the access points and can connect to the unencrypted ones, but not wpa2? [12:43] it sucks badly [12:44] Myrtti, this one wont even touch unencrypted atm [12:44] I have an ar2413 <3 [12:44] * Myrtti shows her tongue to PriceChild [12:44] i did actually get it on once... but it could only see in the lan, but not google... then i broke that [12:44] so reinstalling debian yet again [12:45] i suspect that was when i tried wep [12:46] I'm on fail train [12:46] I've lost my best hair brush [12:46] aww [12:47] elkbuntu: have you disabled all encryption on the ap and started off trying to associate to that? [12:47] PriceChild, yes [12:48] about to do it again, since i try not to leave it in said state [12:55] * elkbuntu dares the install to die again [12:55] there's something wrong with my xubuntu-ibex-alternate-amd64 torrend [12:55] torrent [12:56] no peers. [12:56] :-< [13:01] yay, didnt die this time [13:05] I hereby challenge the users of Intrepid Ibex and owners of data cable and a phone to participate: https://edge.launchpad.net/~kaijanmaki/+archive [13:08] ooh, is this the thing to integrate the vodafone thing into NM? [13:08] partly yes [13:08] ooooh [13:08] he's one of my this summers "Kids" [13:08] I guess because you're doing that on an n95, that it should work perfectly for me. [13:09] also my latest and first recruitment to Nomovok [13:09] PriceChild: even if you test if you get the settings right, would be nice [13:10] comments can be /msg Wellark [13:10] I'm only on Hardy :( [13:10] I tried that on hardy [13:10] works on it too [13:10] but I'm not sure if it's the new network manager that broke my wlan [13:10] or the new kernel [13:11] uuu launchpad can do dependent ppas now [13:11] i'm out oftouch [13:19] * Myrtti goes to get those ice lollies [13:32] PriceChild, wanna know something stupid? [13:33] sure [13:33] i only downloaded the first debian cd, right, because i only want a simple install. [13:33] everything including module-assistant was on there [13:33] except: html2text and debhelper [13:33] i cant understand why neither are on that disk [13:34] if they're like so important for installing a freaking kernel module [13:41] and this still doesnt work :( [13:41] in fact, it changed absolutely nothing [13:42] * elkbuntu tries a reboot [13:51] Ienorand, can we help? [13:52] Hi, I'm having trouble joining #ubuntu from #ubuntu-proxy, it says I have access and should try to join but I just get back to #*u-proxy [13:53] aha, the floodbots must have gotten tangled in the last netsplits [13:53] sec [13:53] Ienorand, try leaving -proxy and joining it again please [13:54] cheers [13:55] nice, works fine now, thanks! [13:55] floodbot1 is the only one who exempts, else they all fight over who gets to and it gets messy ;) [13:55] floodbot3 somehow stole power of #ubuntu [13:56] oh, btw, this is an idle-free zone for non-ops. [13:57] oh right, bye [13:57] enjoy [14:09] question of the day [14:09] did I remember the milk [14:12] ugh, of course it made no difference, 2500 is pci/pcmcia, 2570 is usb [14:12] i have usb [14:15] hrm... watch wols. he's being his usual rude self today [14:18] YAY! [14:18] I HAS WIFI [14:18] hell yeah [14:18] stupid thing telling me i had rt2500 when i had rt2570 [14:19] is it usb? [14:19] yeah [14:19] ah yes, usb then [14:19] i was misreading stuff [14:19] didn't realise it made a difference though [14:19] clearly [14:19] :D [14:19] ya [14:19] * elkbuntu has debian! :D [14:20] pretty crap reception [14:21] ah, no, router just messes with pings to it [14:22] now, encryption kthx [14:25] perhaps I should see my doctor about this blood pressure, it's really not normal at all [14:26] Myrtti, it is probably wise [14:26] it's only making you miserable [14:27] yup [14:55] * Myrtti sighs [15:16] hrm, it's not working now :( [15:25] is it possible to indent in moinmoin? [15:28] Myrtti: http://moinmo.in/HelpOnLists [15:29] * Myrtti is a MediaWiki brat [15:36] Myrtti, what is that about mediawiki :) [15:36] * ompaul runs [15:37] I gotta do stuff l8r [15:37] ta-tah [15:53] * Myrtti looks at her w.u.c page more content [15:54] hm. that ibex disk doesn't seem to be going anywhere in the burn [16:18] * elkbuntu is hunting for a terminal emulator that isnt tied to a DE and isnt as horrid as xterm or eterm [16:18] * Myrtti points at terminator [16:19] that wants to pull half of gnome in [16:19] * Myrtti shrugs [16:20] i dont want half of gnome [16:20] I've used it happily with xfce [16:20] i'mm sure you have, but i dont want half of gnome :P [16:31] aterm [16:32] tbh they are all nuts [16:35] ugh, no tabbing [16:43] ooh, roxterm, i think i'll try that one [16:48] konsole [16:48] * ompaul rusn [16:48] * ompaul runs [16:48] * elkbuntu trips ompaul over and kicks him in the kidneys [16:48] I see you appeal to the spirit of ubuntu there ;-) [16:49] wterm [16:49] :) [16:49] no, roxterm is good [16:49] mrxvt [16:49] no [16:49] now there is a cookie [17:02] <3 openbox [17:42] oh gosh [17:43] asking others to vnc into their systems for help [17:57] oh dear lord [17:58] remind me why I'm at IRCnet's #ubuntu.fi again [17:58] I want more ops again. [18:01] PriceChild, that enough? [18:01] very good [18:01] * ompaul hides behind Nafallo [18:02] * ompaul admits it is not very good someone my size hiding behind him, but maybe someone will say this is not the beard you are looking for and I will escape [18:02] MUHAHAHAHAHAHA [18:05] oh dear god [18:06] I'm *NOT* going to say how I read the line * ompaul hides behind Nafallo [18:06] * Myrtti blushes [18:06] nevermind, carry on [18:06] we did already [18:06] jolly good. [18:07] ops for where PriceChild [18:10] * jussi01 walks in [18:10] * Myrtti huggles jussio1 [18:10] damned tabcomplete [18:10] hehe [18:11] * jussio1 hugs Myrtti [18:11] :D [18:12] * Myrtti has xubuntu intrepid alpha on her laptop and she regrets it already [18:13] Myrtti: how come? [18:13] bazhang: just in general. [18:13] PriceChild: networkmanager is poop. [18:13] ok thanks PriceChild [18:13] Myrtti: is it the gnome one? [18:14] yup [18:16] I've also forgotten how ugly this is before tweaking [18:30] oh dear [18:30] meatballs gone crazy [19:03] * Myrtti curses loudly [19:05] Hey zenwhen, whats up? [19:06] * tritium consoles Myrtti [19:06] Hi PriceChild [19:07] How have you been [19:07] I'm good. [19:23] rand0m: by which he means #ubuntu-cafe [19:23] new offtopic chan or trolls spamming? [19:25] please tell me again why I installed Ibex on the laptop? [19:27] hm, he apparently misremembered the name [19:27] perhaps that channel could be dropped or forwarded to -offtopic? [19:27] if it's not already [19:27] there's only him there [19:27] PriceChild, nalioth? [19:28] you're right, he corrected himself a few lines later [19:28] nothing to see here, please walk on :) [19:36] * Myrtti grunts [19:40] Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu (TheMaxzilla away messages) [19:40] * Flannel sees an argument approaching in #u between Sev and Gnea [19:41] heh [19:41] * bazhang puts his money on Seveas [19:47] * Myrtti just almost passed out with pain [19:47] Myrtti, oh no. [19:48] I was sitting on the floor on a pillow and apparently managed to sit on the pillow in a way that really hit the piriformis muscle [19:48] that was fun [19:48] please take a break Myrtti [19:48] well I'm not sitting on the floor again [19:48] :-D [19:48] we always miss you when you are away, but nothing is more important than your health [19:49] I should stretch more [19:49] those eggshell deals are great for back problems [19:50] too bad I'm living on oatmeal gruel this month [19:50] oh well. [19:50] what was I doing again [19:52] I'm starting to believe intrepid is as useful at this stage as a barrel full of hammers. [19:54] Myrtti: actually, I could use a barrel of hammers for quite a few things [19:55] well, my friend does know how to cheer me up [19:55] he has been using gentoo for a while now [19:55] tried to install the new X server [19:56] after almost everything was compiled, he realized he's been doing i486 stage3, not i686 [19:56] and now he has to compile everything all over again [19:58] Go! Gentoo! [19:58] i've never understood the need to compile for a home OS [19:58] if you're building a render farm, go for it [19:59] I want to jump and kill my laptop [20:01] go pet a guinea pig instead [20:05] on the other hand, I really do love rsync [20:19] rsync rocks [20:28] Seveas called the ops in #ubuntu (beam) [20:29] Gnea called the ops in #ubuntu (beam) [20:29] sigh [20:30] indeed [20:30] Gnea is always a bit heavy with the factoids [20:31] he'll throw repeat and then patience at you. [21:43] hm [21:44] apparently webkit is broken. [22:00] ff3 has been in there since June :) [22:00] topic change [22:16] hmm tell me that nick is not taking the proverbial [22:16] #u [22:45] In ubottu, erUSUL said: pulseflash is If you use puseaudio (you should be using it on hardy) you can make flash play sounds at the same time that other aps doing «sudo apt-get install libflashsupport» [22:47] hm [23:03] ompaul_: was that needed? [23:03] the first warning was the bot [23:03] the second one was remove [23:04] the next one is ban [23:04] now he's on -ot :-< [23:04] I don't like the ultimatix factoid. [23:04] !ultimatix [23:04] ultamatix is not supported by Ubuntu. It can cause system damage and should not be used, if you need support with it please go to http://forumubuntusoftware.info/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=1365 for support. If you refer or suggest users install Ultamatix you are subject to a warning the first time, a removal from channel for second time and a ban for the third time. [23:04] !-ultamatix [23:04] ultamatix aliases: ultramatix - added by Flannel on 2008-07-29 20:03:09 - last edited by gnomefreak on 2008-07-30 13:06:12 [23:04] hrm. [23:05] neither do I. [23:05] !automatix [23:05] Automatix is no longer developed or supported by its creators and is not recommended, supported, or needed by Ubuntu. See http://mjg59.livejournal.com/77440.html and « /msg ubottu WorksForMe » [23:06] Pici, the problem is the running battles that you will have if you try to do the logical thing with that software [23:06] you will be trolled [23:06] the removal should cause exactly the response needed [23:07]