[07:37] <tjaalton> joysticks didn't "just work" before, since the driver is not installed by default, and it needed special attention to xorg.conf..
[12:27] <Ng> tjaalton: sooo, got the new motherboard. today's daily live CD boots up, but I'm not seeing any X love ;)
[12:31] <Ng> the live cd is a bit useless for debugging though, so I'm gonna dist-upgrade the hardy install so I can at least ssh in and have persistent logs and stuff
[14:34] <Ng> hmm
[14:35] <Ng> it kinda works a bit
[14:35] <Ng> but it seems rather fragile
[14:43] <Ng> and when X does start, I'm getting no input from my usb kb/mouse
[14:43]  * Ng hmms
[14:43] <Ng> X clearly hasn't crashed though, I can see the cursor blinking in the gdm username box, and numlock works
[14:45] <Ng> gar, why isn't sshd running
[14:47] <Ng> maybe this is bug 254840, but xserver-xorg-input-all is installed
[14:49] <Ng> oh, haha, it's something to do with booting into recovery and starting gdm directly. normal boot seems to make input work \o/
[14:49] <jcristau> hal not started, then?
[14:49] <Ng> probably something like that, yeah ;)
[14:50] <Ng> ok, next up, no Xv
[14:50] <jcristau> X gets the list of input devices from hal, so if that's not running you lose
[14:50] <jcristau> Ng: chipset is intel g4x?
[14:50] <Ng> yep, brand new board, G45, so X4000HD
[14:50] <jcristau> ok, so no xv is a bug in an ubuntu patch for xserver-xorg-video-intel
[14:51] <Ng> I wasn't at all expecting this to be easy/smooth, and I'm very happy to work through these issues :)
[14:51] <jcristau> it disables the textured video adapter by default
[14:51] <Ng> aha
[14:51] <jcristau> which is kind of a bad idea when there's no other adapter
[14:51] <Ng> yes :)
[14:51] <Ng> is that something I can re-enable by config, or do I need to wait for an updated package?
[14:52] <jcristau> Option "TexturedVideo" iirc
[14:52] <jcristau> in the device section
[14:52] <Ng> hmm, that means I have to make an xorg.conf! ;)
[14:53] <jcristau> printf 'Section "Device"\n\tOption "TexturedVideo"\nEndSection\n' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf should be all you need
[14:53] <Ng> ok
[14:54] <Ng> also, for some reason the display is dropping out every 30s or so
[14:54] <Ng> I'll check the DVI connection and stuff, probably need to duck out for a few hours, but then I'll be back on this :)
[14:57] <Ng> jcristau: thanks, btw :)
[14:59] <jcristau> np
[20:30]  * Ng boggles, something isn't working now, X isn't coming up at all
[20:34] <Ng> jcristau: is there some way I can dial up the debugging on what the driver is doing?
[20:34] <Ng> the Xorg.0.log looks fine, but my TV is showing nothing :/
[20:35] <Ng> I did poke the bios settings to give it 128MB of shared RAM, maybe that was a mistake
[21:52] <pwnguin> anyone feel like helping dig out a stupid xorg crasher?
[21:53] <pwnguin> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/wacom-tools/+bug/259035
[23:56]  * Ng tries git drm and intel
[23:59] <Ng> hmm, that's not working particularly well, but I don't know much about how this works without gem (which I assume isn't available in intrepid)