[01:07] <Whiz2> hi. i just recently installed xubuntu on my server, and i'm trying to change the display to something higher than 800X600 (cuz windows are being cut off at the bottom) but in display it doesn't give me any options higher than that. is there a way to force it? (I know the video supports it)
[01:12] <TheSheep> Whiz2: try setting up your card and monitor properly with 'sudo dsiaplyconfig-gtk', you might need to add the sync ranges of your monitor if it's detected wrong
[01:18] <Whiz2> next question is how do I get my computer to allow me to login remotely using a remote viewer such as VNC?
[01:19] <Whiz2> and I will know if that solution works in just a moment
[01:22] <Whiz2> uh oh... the display disabled itself!
[03:59] <NCommander> evening all
[04:00] <pteague> any ideas?  http://pastebin.com/m3782ad39
[06:10] <donthitme> hey, can anybody tell me if it's possible to disable or change the alt-click function
[10:08] <srikar_> how to rename pendrive in xubuntu?????
[10:08] <srikar_> plzz help me/
[10:10] <favro> srikar_: what's it called now?
[10:11] <srikar_> it is names some john , i want to rename my pendrive , the option rename when i r.click doesnt work
[10:13] <srikar_> it is named some john , i want to rename my pendrive , the option rename when i r.click doesnt work in gui
[10:13] <srikar_> ??
[10:14] <favro> srikar_: press alt+F2 then type gksu thunar then try the right click rename thing
[10:15] <srikar_> Failed to rename "RAJSUSB  Device or resource busy.  >> I get this error
[10:16] <favro> srikar_: can you paste the output of  ls /dev  ?
[10:19] <srikar_> srikar@swecha:~$ sudo ls /dev
[10:19] <srikar_> [sudo] password for srikar:
[10:19] <srikar_> adsp	   ptyc1  ptyqf  ptyvd	ram5	    tty52  ttyde  ttys8  ttyx6
[10:19] <srikar_> audio	   ptyc2  ptyr0  ptyve	ram6	    tty53  ttydf  ttys9  ttyx7
[10:19] <srikar_> audio1	   ptyc3  ptyr1  ptyvf	ram7	    tty54  ttye0  ttysa  ttyx8
[10:19] <srikar_> bus	   ptyc4  ptyr2  ptyw0	ram8	    tty55  ttye1  ttysb  ttyx9
[10:19] <srikar_> cdrom	   ptyc5  ptyr3  ptyw1	ram9	    tty56  ttye2  ttysc  ttyxa
[10:19] <srikar_> cdrw	   ptyc6  ptyr4  ptyw2	random	    tty57  ttye3  ttysd  ttyxb
[10:19] <srikar_> console    ptyc7  ptyr5  ptyw3	rtc	    tty58  ttye4  ttyse  ttyxc
[10:19] <srikar_> core	   ptyc8  ptyr6  ptyw4	sda	    tty59  ttye5  ttysf  ttyxd
[10:19] <srikar_> disk	   ptyc9  ptyr7  ptyw5	sda1	    tty6   ttye6  ttyt0  ttyxe
[10:19] <srikar_> dmmidi	   ptyca  ptyr8  ptyw6	sda2	    tty60  ttye7  ttyt1  ttyxf
[10:19] <srikar_> dri	   ptycb  ptyr9  ptyw7	sda3	    tty61  ttye8  ttyt2  ttyy0
[10:19] <srikar_> dsp	   ptycc  ptyra  ptyw8	sda4	    tty62  ttye9  ttyt3  ttyy1
[10:19] <srikar_> dsp1	   ptycd  ptyrb  ptyw9	sda5	    tty63  ttyea  ttyt4  ttyy2
[10:19] <srikar_> dvd	   ptyce  ptyrc  ptywa	sda6	    tty7   ttyeb  ttyt5  ttyy3
[10:19] <srikar_> dvdrw	   ptycf  ptyrd  ptywb	sda7	    tty8   ttyec  ttyt6  ttyy4
[10:19] <srikar_> fd	   ptyd0  ptyre  ptywc	sda8	    tty9   ttyed  ttyt7  ttyy5
[10:19] <srikar_> full	   ptyd1  ptyrf  ptywd	sdb	    ttya0  ttyee  ttyt8  ttyy6
[10:19] <favro> !paste
[10:19] <srikar_> fuse	   ptyd2  ptys0  ptywe	sdb1	    ttya1  ttyef  ttyt9  ttyy7
[10:19] <srikar_> hdb	   ptyd3  ptys1  ptywf	sequencer   ttya2  ttyp0  ttyta  ttyy8
[10:19] <srikar_> hidraw0    ptyd4  ptys2  ptyx0	sequencer2  ttya3  ttyp1  ttytb  ttyy9
[10:19] <srikar_> hpet	   ptyd5  ptys3  ptyx1	sg0	    ttya4  ttyp2  ttytc  ttyya
[10:19] <srikar_> initctl    ptyd6  ptys4  ptyx2	sg1	    ttya5  ttyp3  ttytd  ttyyb
[10:19] <srikar_> input	   ptyd7  ptys5  ptyx3	shm	    ttya6  ttyp4  ttyte  ttyyc
[10:19] <srikar_> kmem	   ptyd8  ptys6  ptyx4	snapshot    ttya7  ttyp5  ttytf  ttyyd
[10:19] <srikar_> kmsg	   ptyd9  ptys7  ptyx5	snd	    ttya8  ttyp6  ttyu0  ttyye
[10:19] <srikar_> log	   ptyda  ptys8  ptyx6	sndstat     ttya9  ttyp7  ttyu1  ttyyf
[10:19] <srikar_> loop0	   ptydb  ptys9  ptyx7	stderr	    ttyaa  ttyp8  ttyu2  ttyz0
[10:20] <srikar_> lp0	   ptydc  ptysa  ptyx8	stdin	    ttyab  ttyp9  ttyu3  ttyz1
[10:20] <srikar_> MAKEDEV    ptydd  ptysb  ptyx9	stdout	    ttyac  ttypa  ttyu4  ttyz2
[10:20] <srikar_> mapper	   ptyde  ptysc  ptyxa	tty	    ttyad  ttypb  ttyu5  ttyz3
[10:20] <srikar_> mem	   ptydf  ptysd  ptyxb	tty0	    ttyae  t
[10:20] <srikar_> ops sorry, I dint know that.I'm new to irc , sorry again
[10:20] <favro> :)
[10:21] <srikar_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/39863/
[10:21] <srikar_> :)
[10:22] <favro> srikar_: and   ls /media  - should only be 6 or so folders
[10:23] <srikar_> yup cdrom  cdrom0  RAJSUSB  sda4  sda6  sda7  sda8
[10:25] <favro> srikar_: now  sudo mkdir -v /media/"new name"      then   sudo umount -v /dev/sdb1  then   sudo mount -v /dev/sdb1 /media "new name"
[10:25] <favro> */media/"new name"
[10:29] <favro> srikar_: sudo mount -t -v /dev/sdb1 /media/"new name"  if you get an error
[10:29] <srikar_> k
[11:05] <MrNaz> surely epiphany would be a better default browser choice for xubuntu than firefox? by comparison epiphany is lightweight and uber fast
[11:06] <MrNaz> firefox on xubuntu stands out like a cod in a tank full of goldfish
[11:53] <TheSheep> MrNaz: epiphany has several problems, including missing people's favorite plugins
[11:53] <TheSheep> MrNaz: it also misses spellchecking in textareas
[12:03] <MrNaz> TheSheep missing plugins i dont think is a showstopper... xubuntu seems to favor lightweightness over featurefullness
[12:03] <MrNaz> thunar vs azureus, abi word vs openoffice etc
[12:03] <MrNaz> transmission vs azureus i should say
[12:04] <TheSheep> there are more lightweight torrent clients than transmission
[12:05] <MrNaz> yea but you get my point
[12:05] <TheSheep> MrNaz: epiphany is my browser of choice, I use it everyday, still I have to have firefox installed
[12:05] <MrNaz> personally, i use epiphany now over FF, which i've thought was bloated since 1.0
[12:05] <TheSheep> MrNaz: sure it is, but that's what people want
[12:06] <MrNaz> yea i guess
[12:06] <TheSheep> MrNaz: web browser is the #1 application on lightweight installations
[12:07] <MrNaz> true
[12:07] <TheSheep> plus, epiphany is not that light
[12:07] <MrNaz> i guess my gripe is just with wanting to punish FF for being so bloody stupid
[12:08] <MrNaz> firefox is atrophying away all the benefits of open source apps
[12:08] <TheSheep> ahaha
[12:08] <MrNaz> that lightweight feel, the elegant functional perfection that it used to have in its pre-1.0 days
[12:09] <MrNaz> epiphany is what ff should have become... if you want multiple profiles and a zillion configs? get the suite
[12:10] <TheSheep> epiphany and firefox have pretty different goals. and Epiphany has been in limbo since quite a time
[12:10] <MrNaz> yea i didnt know it was galleon until recently
[12:11] <TheSheep> they could at least *copy* some well tested solutions from ff -- asking to save password *after* you have successfully logged, spellchecking, user control over adblock, etc.
[12:11] <MrNaz> yes, i do miss those
[12:12] <MrNaz> esp spellchecking... i'm trying to force myself to touch type properly which leads to lots of typos that i often miss
[12:13] <TheSheep> I also miss closing tabs with middle click, but that probably conflicts with its gui philosophy
[12:13] <MrNaz> its kinda embarrassing when your post in a forum is a rant about someone else's bad grammar and then you mistype some simple word heh
[12:14] <TheSheep> that's why you don't rant about bad grammar
[12:25] <MrNaz> i do, when its bad enough
[12:26] <MrNaz> mypet peeve is when people get multiple there/their/they're instances mixed
[12:26] <MrNaz> i dont mind one, but when something like "There having they're lunch over their" i just cant handle it
[14:05] <NCommander> If your interested in the Xubuntu meeting, please join #ubuntu-meeting ;-)
[14:07] <Myrtti> oooh
[14:07] <NCommander> All is welcome, if your interested in xubuntu-development!
[15:14] <Myrtti> NCommander: *poke*
[15:14]  * NCommander explodes
[15:15] <Myrtti> eep
[15:15]  * Myrtti rolls gaffer tape on NCommander 
[15:17] <NCommander> gaffer?
[15:17] <Myrtti> duct tape
[15:18] <Myrtti> also known as Saviour tape in Finland
[15:18] <NCommander> Ah
[15:41] <Nutzebahn> Hello. Three of the partitions listed in blkid are not in fstab, could some one please help me?: http://pastebin.com/d1b1b723a
[15:45] <slow-motion> hi
[15:52] <Odd-rationale> Nutzebahn: are you dualbooting?
[16:01] <Nutzebahn> No.
[16:01] <Odd-rationale> Nutzebahn: so those extra partitions are just for data storage?
[16:01] <Nutzebahn> Yes.
[16:03] <Odd-rationale> Nutzebahn: well here's some instrucions on adding entries to your /etc/fstab file
[16:03] <Odd-rationale> !fstab | Nutzebahn
[17:28] <okouro> hello
[17:39] <NCommander> hi
[17:40]  * Myrtti stabs networkmanager 0.7 and screams
[19:04] <dizzyd87> hello fellow xubuntuers!
[19:06] <Odd-rationale> hi
[19:17] <nikolam> hi! :)
[19:17] <Odd-rationale> !hi | nikolam
[19:18] <nikolam> I ma running xtightvnc server on localhost and I established ssh port-forwarding and i am running vncviewer on other machine
[19:18] <nikolam> but if I start xfce4 inside that session, my vnc viewer disconnects
[20:54] <whileimhere>  Hi I am having some issues with a locale in apt-get,  synaptic, or aptitude. It just freezes when it attempts to install the AF local. Apparently it was an auto selected package when I opted to install Openoffice.org to my XFCE setup.
[21:10] <NCommander> I need some advice from a long time xubuntu user
[21:12] <David-A> !ask | NCommander
[21:13] <NCommander> :-P, I didn't ask to ask a question
[21:13] <NCommander> I just forgot ot hit enter
[21:13] <David-A> Is about two years long enough?
[21:13] <NCommander> I'm debating converting my mom over to (x)ubuntu, but I'm not sure if I should give her regular ubuntu, or xubuntu
[21:14] <NCommander> there is no tech savyness w/ her
[21:15] <David-A> If you can set things up, xubuntu is nice. But if they would install things, or use compiz, or have 512MB or more, I think ubuntu is better for newbe.
[21:15] <NCommander> its 512MB
[21:15] <NCommander> XP crawls on the machine; it needs a reinstall since '02 ;-)
[21:17] <TheSheep> NCommander: what does your mother do with it?
[21:17] <NCommander> Web browsing, book writing
[21:17] <NCommander> Email in firefox
[21:17] <TheSheep> NCommander: writing using what?
[21:17] <NCommander> OpenOffice.org
[21:17] <NCommander> (I already did a lot of the switch the apps stuff ;-))
[21:17] <TheSheep> :)
[21:18] <NCommander> SHe does need one win32 program, but it works in Wine
[21:18] <David-A> I have xubuntu on a 933MHz / 384MB. I built an Ubuntu on a 944MHz / 512MB for my dad, 70 something years old.
[21:18] <NCommander> so you both recommend classic Ubuntu?
[21:18] <TheSheep> NCommander: pendrives? any other devices?
[21:18] <NCommander> Nope
[21:18] <TheSheep> NCommander: windows network?
[21:18] <NCommander> Maybe watching a DVD, but she only does that when I'm around
[21:18] <NCommander> Just wifi to the internet
[21:18] <TheSheep> NCommander: printers?
[21:18] <NCommander> nope
[21:18] <NCommander> I'm installing wubi so she can go back without me
[21:19] <NCommander> (this machine never seen a Linux installation, I'm not even sure the onboard video is supported)
[21:19] <corey> can anyone help me get the sound to work?
[21:19] <NCommander> corey, in flash/firefox?
[21:19] <TheSheep> you don't need wubi to have double boot
[21:19] <David-A> NCommander: Brother dcp350c inkjet/scanner works on both ubuntu/xubuntu, just a little hassle during install.
[21:19] <corey> the sound for my acer laptop
[21:19] <NCommander> It's an NTFS file system
[21:19] <NCommander> Resizing one of those things is a pain
[21:19] <NCommander> and I want her to be able to remove it if I'm not around
[21:20] <corey> I'm completely new to ubuntu
[21:20] <NCommander> corey, what are you trying to use your sound in?
[21:20] <corey> play music/ video
[21:20] <NCommander> Are you running xubuntu or ubuntu
[21:20] <NCommander> (are things blue or brown ;-))
[21:20] <corey> ubuntu
[21:21] <corey> brown
[21:21] <NCommander> Ok, #ubuntu is more approate, but I can do some basic troubleshooting with you
[21:21] <corey> ok
[21:21] <NCommander> Do you have a sound icon (speaker) in the menubar on the right hand side?
[21:21] <corey> yeah
[21:21] <NCommander> Double click it to bring up the sound mixer
[21:22] <NCommander> ANd make sure none of the bars are at the bottom
[21:23] <NCommander> David-A TheSheep, either one of you interested in beta testing the new xfce?
[21:24] <corey> what is that
[21:24] <David-A> "the new"?
[21:24] <NCommander> Well, beta 4.6 ;-)
[21:24] <corey> sure
[21:24] <NCommander> Its packaged
[21:24] <NCommander> corey, I don't recommend you beta test it, just because your not running xubuntu
[21:24] <NCommander> (did you check the sound mixer?)
[21:25] <corey> yeah, everything is at max and nothing is muted
[21:25] <corey> is xubuntu easier to use?
[21:26] <NCommander> THat's a pretty relative question ;-)
[21:26] <NCommander> corey, what program are you trying to play music out of
[21:26] <David-A> NCommander: should i go to a website or just check "pre-released" in synaptic?
[21:26] <NCommander> It's neither, its in the xubuntu-dev PPA
[21:26] <NCommander> (usual warning labels apply, this may break your system, eat your first born, etc. ;-))
[21:27] <NCommander> Its only available if your running intrepid, I haven't backported it to hardy yet
[21:27] <corey> amarok or rythm box
[21:27] <NCommander> Hrm
[21:27] <NCommander> Well, the fact that you have the sound sliders means your laptops sound card is detected
[21:27] <NCommander> Is there a physical sound dial on the machine?
[21:28] <David-A> NCommander: ah, sorry, I just upgraded to 4.08
[21:28] <NCommander> dapper?
[21:28] <NCommander> O_O;
[21:28] <corey> yeah, that is a max voluje
[21:28] <David-A> 8.04
[21:28] <NCommander> Oh
[21:28] <NCommander> *phew*
[21:28] <NCommander> DOn't scare me like that
[21:28] <NCommander> corey, make sure its not muted
[21:28] <David-A> Its not the first time I mixed the numbers...
[21:29] <NCommander> I'll be backporting the release soon
[21:29] <NCommander> so watch this spot ;-)
[21:29] <corey> that is not muted either
[21:30] <NCommander> are you dual booting, or just plain ubuntu?
[21:31] <corey> only ubuntu, when I installed it I didn't set the dual boot
[21:32] <NCommander> oh
[21:32] <NCommander> did it work in XP?
[21:32] <corey> is that a problem
[21:33] <NCommander> (or Vista)
[21:33] <corey> yeah
[21:33] <NCommander> Ok
[21:33] <NCommander> corey, I assume this is your first time running Ubuntu, right?
[21:33] <corey> yeah
[21:34] <NCommander> corey, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[21:34] <NCommander> Try running through that
[21:34] <NCommander> That should help isolate the specific issue
[21:35] <corey> how do you open a shell
[21:35] <NCommander> Applications -> Accessory -> Terimal
[21:36] <corey> what if it says permission denied
[21:37] <NCommander> prefix the command with sudo *command*
[21:37] <NCommander> Type your password when prompted
[21:42] <NCommander> wooo, xfwm4 packaged
[21:43] <David-A> NCommander: what is xubuntu-dev PPA
[21:46] <NCommander> @c-e4e972d5.013-56-73746f5.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) has joined #xubuntu
[21:46] <NCommander> ...
[21:46] <NCommander> I'm really sucking on the copy and paste today
[21:46] <NCommander> https://edge.launchpad.net/~xubuntu-dev/+archive
[21:50]  * Myrtti grunts at webkit
[21:50] <Myrtti> why does it suck so bad?
[21:50] <Myrtti> no, don't answer
[21:51] <NCommander> I've seen webkits code
[21:51] <NCommander> Gecko may suck even more, but at least its code is cleanish
[21:51] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[21:52] <Myrtti> apparently the version of webkit that is used in intrepid has a teenyweeny bug
[21:52] <Myrtti> which makes using sites using self-signed ssl-sertificates impossible.
[21:53] <Myrtti> including the page that my employer uses to give employees a tool to pierce the firewall with their username and password.
[21:54] <NCommander> Usually people complain about gecko having issues with self-signed certs ;-)
[21:54] <NCommander> What's the bug?
[21:55] <Myrtti> https://bugs.webkit.org/show_bug.cgi?id=19146
[21:55] <Myrtti> if I bypass it, the server starts to whine about browser not handling the certs correctly.
[21:55] <Myrtti> wohoo.
[21:56] <David-A> NCommander: I added the 1st line of that url into sources.list and now I have updates for some xfce4-* packages (4.5.80), is that right? will it work in hardy?
[21:56] <NCommander> That's pretty
[21:56] <Myrtti> I'm really starting to wonder why I installed intrepid in the first place
[21:56] <NCommander> I only upgraded to help fix issues in it :-/
[21:56] <NCommander> David-A, No, wait until we formally release hardy binaries
[21:56] <David-A> ok
[21:56] <NCommander> (if you install intrepid ones, you may break your system. OR WORSE!)
[21:57] <NCommander> You need to change the line to say hardy main
[21:57] <NCommander> Not intrepid main
[21:57] <NCommander> Myrtti, intrepid freezes in less than a week :-P
[21:57] <NCommander> What web browser are you using?
[21:57] <Myrtti> epiphany
[21:57] <David-A> done, i wait till it finds something there then
[21:57] <NCommander> epiphany is gecko O_O;
[21:57] <Myrtti> nope
[21:58] <Myrtti> haven't you heard?
[21:58] <NCommander> The one in Ubuntu is
[21:58] <NCommander> Its' been on the packaging teams todo list for almost three months
[21:58] <Myrtti> well, from what I see in my intrepid...
[21:58] <Myrtti> there it is, epiphany-webkit
[21:59] <Myrtti> of course, I could have installed epiphany-gecko
[21:59] <Myrtti> and I guess I'm forced to do so
[21:59] <Myrtti> http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/epiphany-webkit
[21:59] <NCommander> Just install firefox :-P
[22:00] <Myrtti> firefox is awful :-<
[22:00] <lunartic> Why, what is wrong with it according to you?
[22:01] <NCommander> Well, its bloated, thats my big arguement
[22:01] <NCommander> I'd perfer a nice webkit based browser, but I don't like epiphany
[22:01] <lunartic> That's true
[22:01] <Myrtti> NCommander: midori, kazehakase
[22:01] <Myrtti> though I've managed to crash kazehakase twice already
[22:02] <NCommander> Woo, my upload of xfwm crash and burned!
[22:02]  * NCommander fixes it
[22:02] <Myrtti> and midori has exactly the same problems with webkit as epiphany
[22:04] <NCommander> ah
[22:04] <NCommander> Your lucky, you get to use Xubuntu at work ;-)
[22:05] <Myrtti> I'm lucky, I work in a FLOSS development/deployment company ;-)
[22:05] <lunartic> Can we install safari on unbuntu?
[22:05] <NCommander> Very luck Myrtti
[22:05] <NCommander> lunartic, well, you can use webkit ;-)
[22:05] <NCommander> But I thought Safari itself was closed
[22:06] <Myrtti> and work from home
[22:06] <Myrtti> or where ever my laptop is
[22:06] <lunartic> safari is the frontend for webkit, so I would think it can handle it for the best
[22:06] <Myrtti> ho-hum. well atleast claws-mail is as good in intrepid as it is in hardy
[22:06] <NCommander> I meant the actual source to Safari
[22:06] <NCommander> Myrtti, why'd you upgrade to intrepid?
[22:06] <NCommander> I didn't make the jump until just before the freeze
[22:06] <Myrtti> NCommander: just to see if it would fix my network-manager issues
[22:07] <lunartic> interpid on a laptop?
[22:07] <Myrtti> and I already had heaps of bleeding-edge stuff on it
[22:07] <NCommander> I run Intrepid on my laptop
[22:07] <Myrtti> and my backup system never fails
[22:07] <lunartic> PRoblems with the wireless then I guess?
[22:07] <NCommander> intrepid fixed my sleep suspend issues :-)
[22:07] <Myrtti> yeah, one could say that
[22:08] <lunartic> lol
[22:08] <Myrtti> the wireless problems got worse
[22:08] <NCommander> (I still needed to blacklist a module, but beside that)
[22:08] <NCommander> Myrtti, you do know wireless drivers are backported to hardy, right?
[22:08] <lunartic> what wireless you have there running?
[22:08] <lunartic> or nut running :-S
[22:09] <Myrtti> Atheros AR242*
[22:09]  * NCommander has an Intel 4965
[22:09] <NCommander> Evil card :-)
[22:09] <NCommander> On both our counts
[22:09] <NCommander> *cards
[22:09] <Myrtti> the kernel in intrepid doesn't support it at all
[22:10] <NCommander> atheros cards are closed
[22:10] <lunartic> Try the latest kernel
[22:10] <Myrtti> reading the forums I can't even compile the madwifi for it
[22:10] <NCommander> you have tomanually install the madwifi driver
[22:10] <NCommander> Use the package
[22:10] <NCommander> USE THE PACKAGE LUKE
[22:10] <NCommander> Oh, d'oh
[22:10] <NCommander> linux-restricted-modules hasn't been ported yet
[22:17] <lunartic> I got my wireless almost running with the latest linux kernel.  (As good as running I should say, IT guys from the univ still have to tell me correctely which protocol they use)
[22:18] <lunartic> It is the linksys WMP300N with an atheros chipset
[22:19] <lunartic> NCommander: atheros has it latest series open sourced by now
[22:19] <lunartic> That is why I bought it:
[22:19] <NCommander> you mean ath5k?
[22:19] <lunartic> ath9k
[22:19] <NCommander> only a handful of cards support that
[22:19] <lunartic> the N series
[22:20] <lunartic> They want to sell their latest of course :-)
[22:27] <NCommander> I would like to see coreboot work on laptops