[00:00] <apachelogger> yuriy: that is the wrong attitude
[00:00] <apachelogger> yuriy: kubuntu is not yet as popular as that other thing
[00:00] <JontheEchidna> hehe
[00:01] <JontheEchidna> Somebody should implement a Kubuntu Mobile Edition with a plasmoid as the cool launcher instead of whatever ubuntu is using for it's mobile edition
[00:04] <tyfon> i think the popularity diffrence is just the name, most people say they run ubuntu even if its kubuntu and when someone new wants to try the easy linux they search for ubuntu on google
[00:06] <JontheEchidna> yuriy: I hope you don't mind that I'm making the whole gui from ui files
[00:06] <JontheEchidna> it might get a bit confusing if we used .py in some places then randomly used uic in other places, imo
[00:09] <yuriy> JontheEchidna: don't mind, whatever works
[00:09] <yuriy> I still need to learn how to actually use them
[00:10] <yuriy> oh looks like I forgot to push last time
[00:16] <seele> Riddell: ping
[00:29]  * apachelogger pokes smarter
[00:30] <yuriy> dammit push created a new branch
[00:33] <JontheEchidna> lol
[00:33] <JontheEchidna> If you specify where to push it should change it, I think
[00:34] <yuriy> yeah, I was just hoping that "moving" to kubuntu-members didn't actually MOVE it and pushing to my branch would still work
[00:34] <yuriy> fixed now
[00:35] <JontheEchidna> bzr is stupid like that
[00:36] <yuriy> don't think I'll have a chance to work on this before feature freeze :-\
[00:36] <JontheEchidna> what needs to be done?
[00:37] <yuriy> actually use the UI files, port to model/view
[00:38] <yuriy> the latter is not strictly necessary but would make the code a lot cleaner
[00:38] <JontheEchidna> Jockey is still using a treewidget
[00:38]  * JontheEchidna cowers
[00:38] <yuriy> functionally, I think it's all working since I didn't touch any backend stuff
[00:39] <yuriy> just a few bugs with the signals/slots on the lists
[00:43] <JontheEchidna> Eww, language selector looks like it's using tango icons
[00:44] <JontheEchidna> er, well, a tango icon for it's main window icon
[00:53] <apachelogger> Riddell: please sponsor https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-users/guidance/desktop-effects-kde
[00:57] <vorian> evening
[00:58] <JontheEchidna> evening
[01:05] <yuriy> apachelogger: that's still used in Intrepid?
[01:05]  * yuriy wonders why someone would want compiz in kde4
[01:07] <apachelogger> missing cube
[01:10] <vorian> or tube or blob
[01:10] <vorian> or mouse fancy
[01:10] <vorian> all the crazy stuff compiz does :)
[01:11] <JontheEchidna> you mean like suck at actually managing windows?
[01:11] <JontheEchidna> and kde-window-decorator crashing every day?
[01:11] <JontheEchidna> :P
[01:11] <JontheEchidna> It has some neat effects to it's credit, though.
[01:11] <JontheEchidna> It's like the testbed of desktop effects
[01:14] <JontheEchidna> or it was until distros decided it should be the default wm
[01:27] <yuriy> yeah those strange distros that do that... :P
[01:27] <vorian> hehe
[01:33] <jtechidna> yuriy: http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Woremar/userprop1.png http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Woremar/userprop2.png http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c355/Woremar/userprop3.png
[01:59] <vorian> bug 260168
[02:05] <ScottK-laptop> vorian: I think someone was working on packaging Krusader 2.
[02:06] <vorian> jtechidna: do you know anything about krusader 2?
[02:06] <vorian> thanks ScottK-laptop
[02:06] <jtechidna> vorian: well, it works from what I see
[02:06] <jtechidna> It's not exactly pretty
[02:06] <jtechidna> Testing it was the first time I ever used it
[02:06] <vorian> ah
[02:07] <vorian> i don't see why you would need an epoch then
[02:43] <jtechidna> does grep work with filenames?
[02:44] <Hobbsee> locate?
[02:45] <Hobbsee> jtechidna: no, it doesn't.  use locate.
[02:45]  * jtechidna man locate's
[02:50] <ScottK-laptop> jtechidna: You'll likely want to run updatedb first since IIRC that's no longer on by default.
[03:13] <jtechidna> yuriy: omg, almost have userconfig starting up while using .ui files
[03:14] <jtechidna> just running into a pesky traceback...
[03:15] <jtechidna> http://paste.ubuntu.com/40062/
[03:15] <jtechidna> should I commit/push what I have so far?
[03:18] <jtechidna> I know why it's throwing the traceback to
[03:18] <jtechidna> the ui file isn't a KPageDialog
[03:24] <jtechidna> either that or I horribly screwed up the _init_ function
[03:24] <jtechidna> probably the latter
[03:37] <jtechidna> :o
[03:37] <jtechidna> userconfig with ui files lives!
[03:37] <jtechidna> muwahahahhaha
[03:39] <jtechidna> well, actually it still uses the .py files for the modify, new, and delete dialogs...
[04:09] <jtechidna> yuriy: I can do the dialogs tomorrow morning
[08:54] <mornfall> Re.
[09:07] <yuriy> jtechidna: sweet!
[09:52] <Jucato> jtechidna is sweet.. never tasted yet..
[11:28] <smarter> apachelogger: pong
[11:29] <smarter> apachelogger: poking me at 1 AM is pretty useless most of the time :p
[12:09] <jtechidna> good morning
[12:10] <smarter> is mplayer not installable for you in Intrepid?
[12:11] <jtechidna> I have it installed
[12:17] <Xand3r> hey ho folks, from now i am a firefighter
[16:17] <vorian> gah my keyboard keeps crapping out on me
[16:17] <vorian> no tap< no commas< to type in lowercase< i have to have caplocks on!
[16:43] <JontheEchidna> yuriy: modify/new users dialog is running with only minor kinks
[16:44] <JontheEchidna> -Setting the primary group combobox while you type the username doesn't work due to KComboBox changes
[16:45] <JontheEchidna> -The KDateEdit in the Password & Security tab doesn't become un-read only when the corresponding radio button is checked
[16:47] <JontheEchidna> Oh, and pressing the browse button for selecting your homedir doesn't actually work...
[18:15] <apachelogger> smarter: my clocks are all messed up
[18:17] <smarter> howdy ho apachelogger
[18:17] <smarter> so, why did you poke me?
[18:17] <apachelogger> I forgot
[18:17] <apachelogger> probably the compiz thingy
[18:24] <jpds> apachelogger: Don't use "ntp"?
[18:24] <apachelogger> jpds: I use different timezones all over the place
[18:25] <jpds> apachelogger: Why?
[18:25] <apachelogger> fun +  lazyness
[18:26]  * jpds has: 'export TZ="Europe/London"' in his shell configuration.
[18:28] <jpds> ..so I have the same time everywhere.
[18:28] <apachelogger> that wouldn't help much :P
[18:28] <apachelogger> my wrist watch is UTC
[18:28] <apachelogger> the one on my wall is CET I think
[18:28] <apachelogger> yeah, CET
[18:29] <jpds> export TZ="UTC" then.
[18:29] <apachelogger> the ony in my car is some unknown timezone I still didn't lookup yet ;-)
[22:17] <totopalma> hi Riddell , can you take a look at bug #39383 please? :)
[22:17] <Riddell> totopalma: ok (in a bit, busy openstreetmapping right now)
[22:18] <devfil_> Riddell: I've just finished kdevelop, I'm going to upload it to my PPA, you will find all package there
[22:19] <devfil_> s/package/packages/
[22:21] <devfil_> Riddell: I've done buildprep to build the package
[22:26] <devfil_> Riddell: I've done buildprep after have done the orig.tar.gz, is this ok? in the previous kdevelop seems that orig.tar.gz was done after buildprep
[22:27] <NthDegree> Question guys:  If Debian ditched the Mozilla Firefox(R) name because of extra patches they'd made in the end what does Ubuntu drop patch-wise to allow it to have the Firefox name?
[22:48] <Riddell> devfil_: buildprep after .orig is right
[22:49] <devfil_> Riddell: great!
[22:49] <Riddell> NthDegree: this isn't a mozilla channel.  I suspect it involves business people talking to each other more than code changes, the main code change will be adding the icon back (which is non-free)
[22:58] <apachelogger> totopalma, Riddell: that bug is only partly valid for intrepid... the new kdebluetooth doesn't ship an icon at all
[22:59] <apachelogger> totopalma: how does that debdiff fix the bug?
[23:02] <totopalma> apachelogger, i will fix it for the new version :)
[23:02] <apachelogger> there is nothing to be fixed for the new version
[23:02] <apachelogger> there is simply no icon
[23:03] <apachelogger> upstream didn't include one
[23:03] <totopalma> apachelogger, ok :)
[23:03] <apachelogger> anyway
[23:04] <apachelogger> totopalma: are you sure you attached the debdiff to the right bug?
[23:04] <totopalma> apachelogger, please invalid that bug