/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2008/08/24/#ubuntu-ops.txt

* ompaul_ saunters off for a few hours00:02
Myrttignite folks00:18
ubottustdin called the ops in #ubuntu (dfjioej)03:33
elkbuntucute, charsets is asking me in pm why he was banned03:57
elkbuntui've forgotten the 'dont have to start firefox to check' commands03:57
elkbuntu!bans charsets03:58
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about bans charsets03:58
elkbuntu:(03:58
stdinelkbuntu: @bansearch04:07
ubottudanbhfive called the ops in #ubuntu (z3wb)05:10
naliothi see z3wb is back05:12
ubottudjhash called the ops in #ubuntu ()05:13
naliothsorted05:15
elkbuntu@bansearch charsets06:43
ubottuMatch *!*@gateway/web/*!#ubuntu-proxy-users by ballard.freenode.net on Mon Jun 16 00:09:08 2008 in #ubuntu06:43
ubottuMatch *!*@gateway/web/*!#ubuntu-proxy-users by douglas.freenode.net on Wed Jun 25 01:31:48 2008 in #kubuntu06:43
elkbuntuhrm06:44
elkbuntu@btlogin06:44
elkbuntustoopid mibbit06:44
elkbuntuhah, he's on mibbit because he's trying to ban evade06:45
elkbuntuand, it seems ompaul forgot to lift eleaf's autoban06:47
bazhang Eleaf has quit (Remote closed the connection) just now06:59
elkbuntusearch him in the bt, last two entries07:02
bazhangfrom chanserv?07:04
elkbuntuya07:04
bazhangthat is odd07:04
elkbuntunot really. ompaul got quite protective when eleaf was actioning consuming various products of an elk's demise for the intent of pinging me constantly07:05
bazhangoh.07:06
bazhangnever knew the back story on that one.07:06
elkbuntuit was rather creepy07:06
bazhangsorry to hear he did that to you.07:06
elkbuntuhe was 13 at the time07:06
naliothno excuse07:06
elkbuntuof course not07:06
bazhangthen you can understand my concern about z_/patchpockets/etc07:06
elkbuntubut, he's not 13 now07:06
MyrttiGood morning07:07
elkbuntubazhang, i already understand. it's worrying Myrtti and lyn07:07
bazhangMyrtti, hi07:07
elkbuntuhe's driving girls from the channel at an exponential rate that not even yipe achieved07:07
bazhangMyrtti, how is your elasticity this morning :)07:07
MyrttiShould I get my laptop to get backlog?07:07
elkbuntuMyrtti, nah07:07
bazhangnothing of late07:07
MyrttiBazhang better than most days07:08
MyrttiWhats going on at ot07:09
MyrttiLooks worrying07:09
bazhangvery quiet as of ten minutes ago; been busy in #u07:10
* elkbuntu laughs as she sees that the kid's deviantart pic hasnt changed07:10
elkbuntuseems he wasnt actually 13 when it was reporting so, but still07:10
elkbuntuone assumes he's grown up a bit07:11
* Myrtti gets her laptop07:11
ubottubazhang called the ops in #kubuntu-offtopic (mernil)07:20
bazhangthats the 2nd time he has stalked in there.07:20
stdinI'm going to "handle" it07:21
stdinor try to07:21
bazhangsorry for the quick trigger stdin , but the last time was something I didnt want to see again07:21
elkbuntustalked?07:21
Flannelelkbuntu: battered with celery07:22
elkbuntuha.   ha07:22
Flanneland broccoli07:22
stdinbazhang: he's been pushing it for a few days, and I (and others) have tried explaining the rules to him07:22
stdinhe just refuses to accept/stick to them07:23
bazhanghe makes z_ look like a boyscout in comparison07:23
elkbuntudelightful07:23
Flannelelkbuntu: Its ok, since its for ubunto... should we tell him?07:29
elkbuntuheh07:29
* stdin just had a lovely conversation with mernil and has decided not to release any bans07:29
elkbuntuhaha07:30
elkbuntushould we be on the lookout for him elsewhere?07:30
stdindefinitely07:30
* Myrtti sighs07:31
* Myrtti looks at her wiki-page and decides to go get chocolate milk07:31
elkbuntudid he go offline. i cant find him with /wii or /who07:31
stdinafaik he was only in #k and #k-offtopic, but he's apparently upset at me and may seek revenge07:31
naliothwelcome to the big leagues, stdin07:32
Flannelwhoissit?07:32
elkbuntustdin, if the pm involved threats, it's often wise to share those threats now, rather than later07:32
elkbuntuFlannel, mernil07:32
stdinno threats, just a name-calling session07:32
elkbuntuhis brother, i bet ;)07:32
elkbuntuor housemate07:33
* stdin goes to comment on the tracker07:33
bazhanghis cousin's cat07:33
elkbuntuindeed07:33
Flannelman, I run off to a bluegrass festival for the day, and miss all the excitement.07:33
elkbuntuthe bantracker has him threatening ompaul, heh07:34
Myrttiohmy07:40
Myrttihe IS scary07:40
jussi01Morning all07:52
Myrttiwheee! scmpd is going to be packaged!08:10
Myrttibug 26075408:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 260754 in ubuntu "[needs-packaging] scmpd" [Wishlist,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26075408:11
Myrtti08:11
naliothMyrtti: what is that?08:12
Myrttia mpd client that actually does nothing else than submits your songs to last.fm08:12
Myrttimpdscribble isn't the best possible app for that08:12
naliothgoogle was useless over 'scmpd'  :(08:13
hischildHello. Gaurav is continuing to PM without asking and after i've asked him kindly not to do so.08:15
hischildMyrtti, tnx08:16
Myrttirrrrrrrr08:16
MyrttiI'm an awful person when I feel annoyed someone dearing me08:17
hischildhe's been spamming the chat for the past 15 min now. Gave him the guide a couple times to reinstall grub but won't listen.08:18
ompaulMyrtti, the use of the term dear, is in my mind, at least 74.63% condescending08:23
jussi01ompaul: that figure changes if the person is older than 60...08:23
ompauljussi01, ack08:24
ompauljussi01, by 0.2 more08:24
jussi01rofl08:24
elkbuntui dont use it condescendingly though08:24
elkbuntui use it as a less creepy form of 'hon'08:25
Myrttihischild: anything else we can help you with?08:30
hischildMyrtti, I'm sorry, i forgot i didn't leave yet. Other then a few intrepid troubles i'm fine. Thanks.08:31
Myrttiwhat an original idea, BREAKFAST!08:45
ikoniawell, I'm totally dissapointed and gutted, just been spoken to like a hunk of crap by an #fedora operator and given a load of attitude by another one09:15
Myrttiho-hum.09:19
MyrttiI'm going to send an email to the mailing list soon.09:20
Myrttihm.09:20
Myrttinow actually, if it goes through09:21
ompaulrpm -i ubuntu ?09:21
* ompaul points to the last line for ikonia 09:21
* Myrtti goes to make that chocolate milk09:22
ikoniaompaul: ubuntu can't run on everything, but I take your point09:26
ikoniaI've never had a problem with any of those guys, in fact I've found some really positive projects/gems/irc-friends through them, just really taken back09:27
ikonianot to worry, back to work09:27
elkbuntuikonia, tall poppy syndrome sucks09:36
ikoniapoppy ?09:37
elkbuntuflowers09:37
ompaulikonia, the big one gets picked09:38
ompaulputting your head over the parapet etc09:38
ikoniaahhh09:38
elkbuntuhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_Poppy_Syndrome09:38
Myrttiomnomnom, chocolate milk from *real* cocoa powder09:39
elkbuntunom09:39
elkbuntuikonia, the one group of fanatics that hate us more than debian fanatics, is fedora fanatics.09:40
Myrttiproverb of the day: "But I only wanted to be friends and help"09:41
elkbuntuheh09:41
elkbuntusmashmouth: why cant we be friends09:41
ikoniaI get on well with them normally though, I think the guy in question was enraged by the fact I'd disabled SELinux09:41
elkbuntuikonia, yeah, they are a little protective of that nuisance09:42
ikoniahe toned it down when I explained it09:43
elkbuntuheh09:43
ikoniaI was having an apache issue and the first thing everyone always asks is "is SELinux blocking it", as this is a test machine it was disabled, so I mentioned it to provide "info" and save the obvious "is SELinux blocking it" comments09:44
ikoniahe seems to have become quite friendly all of a sudden09:44
elkbuntuthat's always eerie09:44
ikoniamore so now the other guy in question realises that looks like a bug in their default re-write rules that ship with fedora09:44
ikoniaI think they must get fed up of the more new users blaming SELinux for everything, or SELinux rightly doing someting and the newer guys not checking it09:45
elkbuntusame as we get tired of repeating the sudo explanation09:45
ikoniaI only mentioned it to stop some of the other guys flooding me with SELinux is your problem comments when it's pretty obvious its not09:46
ikoniaelkbuntu: exactly09:46
ikoniaok, I'll log this bug then and avoid serving up humble pie :)09:46
elkbuntuheh09:47
* Myrtti does a magic trick09:52
=== myrtti is now known as Myrtti
Myrttita-dah!10:00
* wgrant jumps back in surprise.10:00
elkbuntuMyrtti, you're seeming much chirpier today10:01
Myrttiwhen in reality I'm not10:01
* ompaul waits10:01
Myrttibut I think things might go better from now on10:01
bazhangMyrtti, they will10:02
elkbuntuMyrtti, thinking like that helps :)10:02
Myrttimore chocolate milk and rye bread, methinks.10:03
ompaulmore rye bread less chocolate*10:04
wgrants/ milk/10:04
ompaulsudo apt-get remove --purge sugary-things10:04
Myrttiompaul: my chocolate milk has no added sugar10:05
Myrttithe cocoa powder has none10:05
* ompaul declares #world_is_strange10:05
MyrttiI've used sugarless cocoa powder for three years already...10:07
Myrttibaking cocoa powder or like...10:07
* ompaul declares #world_is_stranger10:08
* ompaul declares #world_is_strangest10:08
ompaulwho knows10:08
MyrttiI should clean pigseh cage :-<10:20
ompaulbegone ohh cleaner of cages and give the creatures some comfort10:22
ompaulthen and only then the universe will be at balance with itself10:23
Myrttior then I could just release them on the balcony again10:25
ompauldo both?10:27
Myrttiyea10:27
ompaulmake positive bold steps in the direction of the balcony with cleaning kit in hand10:27
Myrtti*sigh*11:27
Myrttiyou still haven't invented teleportation, I see.11:27
MyrttiI'm disappointed.11:27
* Myrtti sighs11:47
Myrttidespite all the hardships in life... it's nice to have love.11:47
Myrttiand a pink moka pot.12:15
BashItOutI've been told to go here as i'm banned from the channel #ubuntu14:09
BashItOutBut i've never been on that channel14:09
MyrttiI suspect the reason you are banned it related to your nick, ident and cloak.14:11
Myrttis/it/is/14:11
BashItOutBut14:11
BashItOutIs there anyway to be unbanned?14:11
PriceChildMyrtti: hmm?14:13
PriceChildBashItOut: one mo14:13
PriceChild@btlogin14:13
MyrttiPriceChild: I believe it's baSHITout ;-)14:15
Myrttior I suspect it is14:15
BashItOutNO!14:15
BashItOutBash <-- Linux Shell14:15
BashItOutBash - It - Out14:15
Myrttiyes14:15
PriceChildi don't think it is.. lastlog of shit doesn't pull up one of those bans... which makes me think i'm broken14:16
Myrttibut the bans don't diffrentiate caps and normal letters14:16
Myrttiyou're broken?14:16
Myrtti@btlogin14:16
PriceChildaha found it14:16
PriceChildBashItOut: try now.14:16
BashItOutthats better14:17
Myrttitold you14:17
BashItOutThanks14:17
Myrttistdin: it would be cool if one could set the default timezone to ubottu14:18
Myrttistdin: is that possible?14:18
Myrttiso that when I login, the bantracker would automatically give the logs in EEST14:18
PriceChildi 'believe' if you maintain the same session it will maintain the timezone14:19
* Myrtti gives PriceChild a stinking guinea pig14:20
PriceChildhow rude14:25
Myrttisneezing guinea pig!14:46
Myrttithey always stink14:46
Myrttithey're warm and fuzzy and loving little creatures14:47
Myrttiand they squeal15:12
Myrttia lot.15:12
Myrttianyone used pastebinit more?16:27
Myrttieverytime someone uses ntfs on linux, a baby whale cries16:35
mernili was banned from kubuntu today. I want that op to be removed from his privileges. It was stdin.16:38
mernilhe banned me because i used the word "shit", and he said it was a swear word??16:39
Myrttiyou really think that was the reason you were banned?16:39
Myrttiwe've got logs.16:39
mernilMyrtti: be my guest to read them!16:40
MyrttiI have16:40
merniland?16:40
MyrttiI don't think I've felt as much repulsed by someones actions in IRC for a long time.16:40
mernilMyrtti: i know, stdin behavior is simply repulsive!16:41
Myrttiby your behaviour.16:42
mernilokay, i got angry in the end talking to him. But that should not cause me a ban16:42
mernilMyrtti: just give me one example why i got banned?16:42
merniljust one!!!16:43
mernilnow Myrtti goes though the logs trying to find something.. fucking lamer!16:44
MyrttiI could have used some backups16:45
Myrttithanks anyway for participating16:45
Nafalloas usual... I don't comment on stuff I haven't seen.16:46
* Myrtti pokes Daviey 16:46
Myrttier16:46
MyrttiDave2:16:46
MyrttiI need to pastebin some stuff from compile time and I've got no idea how I can pipe them all to a file or pastebinit16:55
Myrttimerh.16:55
ubottuSlart called the ops in #ubuntu (charsets)17:03
jussi01oh fun...17:05
Myrttioh17:05
Myrttididn't know the floodbots could do that17:05
jussi01me neither...17:07
Dave2Myrtti, hm?17:12
Myrttinevermind17:12
Myrttihe's gone17:12
Dave2ah, didn't notice how long ago it was17:13
* Dave2 has been cleaning his room17:13
Myrttiyou was on irc just then...17:14
* Myrtti slaps Dave2 17:14
Dave2I was?17:14
Myrttiyou was.17:14
Myrtti18:39 <@Dave2> :o17:14
Myrtti18:39 < Nafallo> ah good. I was actually hungry.17:14
Myrtti18:39 -'@: oh for crying out loud...17:14
Dave2I wasn't on IRC when I was poked though!17:14
Myrttinope17:14
PriceChildMyrtti: jussi01: that was one of the prerequisites for allowing mibbit users in.17:43
jussi01PriceChild: ahhh17:43
jussi01makes sense17:43
PriceChildelse ban management on them wouldn't have been fun at all17:44
jussi01yeah. I can see that would be horrible17:45
PriceChildthere's no way to override exempts17:46
* ompaul swats swat17:52
ompaulPriceChild, I was watching coverage of Munster vs American Eagles - they kept saying the rules were strange, the pitch is turf,  and I could not take it any more when they said that one player played for the "U20" team17:53
ompaulactually sorry17:54
ompaulMunster U20 like it was a specific team17:54
ompaulI just cracked up and had to walk17:54
ompaulfor those who don't know that would be the Munster under 20s17:54
ompaulas in age17:54
PriceChildriiiiight :)17:56
ompaulPriceChild, it is called - your commentary turned the game into comedy17:58
PriceChildlol ok17:59
ompaulohh and for some crazy reason two players from Munster are on the pitch with no numbers on their backs17:59
ompauland this is a pro game argh17:59
ubottuerUSUL called the ops in #ubuntu (am_arsch)18:00
* Myrtti yawns18:33
* SWAT swats ompaul 18:52
Myrtti20:58  mentor> Myrtti: You're the first person in aeons that knows how to ask questions.19:00
Myrttiwoo.19:00
* Myrtti sighs19:12
SWATit's an important quality19:20
PriceChildIs it me... or did floodbot 1 unban but not ban?19:24
PriceChildAnyone around?19:27
Myrttisure19:28
Myrttithey're supposed to do fine since they're not hanging...19:28
PriceChildpardon?19:28
Myrttinot in emergency mode19:29
Myrttisorry, had both verbal and physical brain freeze19:29
PriceChildso why did it not ban, and suddenly decide to unban only after i banned?19:30
* PriceChild scratches his head19:30
Myrttiwhy did I respond in #ubuntu-irc...19:54
NafalloI wondered the same thing :-)19:54
Myrttiperhaps its my public service attitude...19:56
MyrttiTallken: hello19:56
Tallkendamn19:57
Tallkensorry19:57
Tallkenlol19:57
Tallkencopied autojoin config from older file19:57
Tallkenwhich had this on autojoin19:57
Tallken;)19:57
Tallkencya19:57
Myrttifcol20:03
MyrttiI'm too nice.20:03
Myrtti"All 1500 conversations in "Launchpad-Answers" are selected." [Delete]20:06
ubottuTiredWolf called the ops in #ubuntu (skittles)21:32
Flannelsigh21:32
TiredWolfFlannel, if "fucking assholes" is not language that deserve an immediate kick, i don't know what is.21:35
PriceChildTiredWolf: We try to abide by https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines21:36
naliothTiredWolf: everyone gets to the end of their rope every once in a while21:36
TiredWolfi know what you try to abide to21:36
TiredWolfjust, next time someone scolds me off when i call !ops, when the call is actually VERY well deserved, i'm going to be pissed.21:36
Myrttiwe give them enough rope for them to hang themselves into that21:36
TiredWolfah sure21:37
TiredWolfgive rope in the main public support channel21:37
TiredWolfthat's very helpful to the other users in there21:37
FlannelTiredWolf: the difference between a warning and a kick wouldn't have removed the language from the channel.21:38
TiredWolfFlannel, it would have made it clear it's a pretty serious issue. besides, if "you're there", you'd have warned already, as i *waited* before calling !ops.21:40
TiredWolfof course, you can be busy and that's fine, but then you don't scold me off for calling !ops.21:40
FlannelTiredWolf: I told you, I was in the middle of another message.21:40
PriceChildPerhaps telling you ops were watching instead of doing something wasn't the best thing to do, perhaps not. However I don't see anything I would describe as 'scolding' tbh.21:42
TiredWolfwell, the lack of action and instead telling me ops were watching sounded like implicit scolding to me, though then again i might possibly have read too much into it.21:43
TiredWolfwhich might be helped by it being the second time this sort of thing happens...21:44
TiredWolfwell, have a good day or night folks21:44
ajmitchjoy, an abusive user in #ubuntu-devel22:27
PriceChildvidd?22:27
ajmitchmartinwm22:27
Nafallomartinwm22:28
naliothnot good22:28
Nafallohe seems less bright :-)22:29
Nafallo"debian-project"+"Patrick Frank" on google22:29
PriceChildI was looking at the wrong channel.22:30
PriceChildand was confused, looking at the most active in the channel at the time *fails*22:30
stdinRe: mernil, to make things more clear, mernil is banned from #kubuntu because it's clear he can't be trusted in there. Being constantly offtopic, despite being told to use -offtopic, and the abusive behaviour in /msg with me, makes me think he will not behave in #k22:50
ompaulstdin, reading the logs I more than concur22:55

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