[00:02]  * ompaul_ saunters off for a few hours
[00:18] <Myrtti> gnite folks
[03:57] <elkbuntu> cute, charsets is asking me in pm why he was banned
[03:57] <elkbuntu> i've forgotten the 'dont have to start firefox to check' commands
[03:58] <elkbuntu> !bans charsets
[03:58] <elkbuntu> :(
[04:07] <stdin> elkbuntu: @bansearch
[05:12] <nalioth> i see z3wb is back
[05:15] <nalioth> sorted
[06:43] <elkbuntu> @bansearch charsets
[06:44] <elkbuntu> hrm
[06:44] <elkbuntu> @btlogin
[06:44] <elkbuntu> stoopid mibbit
[06:45] <elkbuntu> hah, he's on mibbit because he's trying to ban evade
[06:47] <elkbuntu> and, it seems ompaul forgot to lift eleaf's autoban
[06:59] <bazhang>  Eleaf has quit (Remote closed the connection) just now
[07:02] <elkbuntu> search him in the bt, last two entries
[07:04] <bazhang> from chanserv?
[07:04] <elkbuntu> ya
[07:04] <bazhang> that is odd
[07:05] <elkbuntu> not really. ompaul got quite protective when eleaf was actioning consuming various products of an elk's demise for the intent of pinging me constantly
[07:06] <bazhang> oh.
[07:06] <bazhang> never knew the back story on that one.
[07:06] <elkbuntu> it was rather creepy
[07:06] <bazhang> sorry to hear he did that to you.
[07:06] <elkbuntu> he was 13 at the time
[07:06] <nalioth> no excuse
[07:06] <elkbuntu> of course not
[07:06] <bazhang> then you can understand my concern about z_/patchpockets/etc
[07:06] <elkbuntu> but, he's not 13 now
[07:07] <Myrtti> Good morning
[07:07] <elkbuntu> bazhang, i already understand. it's worrying Myrtti and lyn
[07:07] <bazhang> Myrtti, hi
[07:07] <elkbuntu> he's driving girls from the channel at an exponential rate that not even yipe achieved
[07:07] <bazhang> Myrtti, how is your elasticity this morning :)
[07:07] <Myrtti> Should I get my laptop to get backlog?
[07:07] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, nah
[07:07] <bazhang> nothing of late
[07:08] <Myrtti> Bazhang better than most days
[07:09] <Myrtti> Whats going on at ot
[07:09] <Myrtti> Looks worrying
[07:10] <bazhang> very quiet as of ten minutes ago; been busy in #u
[07:10]  * elkbuntu laughs as she sees that the kid's deviantart pic hasnt changed
[07:10] <elkbuntu> seems he wasnt actually 13 when it was reporting so, but still
[07:11] <elkbuntu> one assumes he's grown up a bit
[07:11]  * Myrtti gets her laptop
[07:20] <bazhang> thats the 2nd time he has stalked in there.
[07:21] <stdin> I'm going to "handle" it
[07:21] <stdin> or try to
[07:21] <bazhang> sorry for the quick trigger stdin , but the last time was something I didnt want to see again
[07:21] <elkbuntu> stalked?
[07:22] <Flannel> elkbuntu: battered with celery
[07:22] <elkbuntu> ha.   ha
[07:22] <Flannel> and broccoli
[07:22] <stdin> bazhang: he's been pushing it for a few days, and I (and others) have tried explaining the rules to him
[07:23] <stdin> he just refuses to accept/stick to them
[07:23] <bazhang> he makes z_ look like a boyscout in comparison
[07:23] <elkbuntu> delightful
[07:29] <Flannel> elkbuntu: Its ok, since its for ubunto... should we tell him?
[07:29] <elkbuntu> heh
[07:29]  * stdin just had a lovely conversation with mernil and has decided not to release any bans
[07:30] <elkbuntu> haha
[07:30] <elkbuntu> should we be on the lookout for him elsewhere?
[07:30] <stdin> definitely
[07:31]  * Myrtti sighs
[07:31]  * Myrtti looks at her wiki-page and decides to go get chocolate milk
[07:31] <elkbuntu> did he go offline. i cant find him with /wii or /who
[07:31] <stdin> afaik he was only in #k and #k-offtopic, but he's apparently upset at me and may seek revenge
[07:32] <nalioth> welcome to the big leagues, stdin
[07:32] <Flannel> whoissit?
[07:32] <elkbuntu> stdin, if the pm involved threats, it's often wise to share those threats now, rather than later
[07:32] <elkbuntu> Flannel, mernil
[07:32] <stdin> no threats, just a name-calling session
[07:32] <elkbuntu> his brother, i bet ;)
[07:33] <elkbuntu> or housemate
[07:33]  * stdin goes to comment on the tracker
[07:33] <bazhang> his cousin's cat
[07:33] <elkbuntu> indeed
[07:33] <Flannel> man, I run off to a bluegrass festival for the day, and miss all the excitement.
[07:34] <elkbuntu> the bantracker has him threatening ompaul, heh
[07:40] <Myrtti> ohmy
[07:40] <Myrtti> he IS scary
[07:52] <jussi01> Morning all
[08:10] <Myrtti> wheee! scmpd is going to be packaged!
[08:11] <Myrtti> bug 260754
[08:11] <Myrtti> ♥
[08:12] <nalioth> Myrtti: what is that?
[08:12] <Myrtti> a mpd client that actually does nothing else than submits your songs to last.fm
[08:12] <Myrtti> mpdscribble isn't the best possible app for that
[08:13] <nalioth> google was useless over 'scmpd'  :(
[08:15] <hischild> Hello. Gaurav is continuing to PM without asking and after i've asked him kindly not to do so.
[08:16] <hischild> Myrtti, tnx
[08:16] <Myrtti> rrrrrrrr
[08:17] <Myrtti> I'm an awful person when I feel annoyed someone dearing me
[08:18] <hischild> he's been spamming the chat for the past 15 min now. Gave him the guide a couple times to reinstall grub but won't listen.
[08:23] <ompaul> Myrtti, the use of the term dear, is in my mind, at least 74.63% condescending
[08:23] <jussi01> ompaul: that figure changes if the person is older than 60...
[08:24] <ompaul> jussi01, ack
[08:24] <ompaul> jussi01, by 0.2 more
[08:24] <jussi01> rofl
[08:24] <elkbuntu> i dont use it condescendingly though
[08:25] <elkbuntu> i use it as a less creepy form of 'hon'
[08:30] <Myrtti> hischild: anything else we can help you with?
[08:31] <hischild> Myrtti, I'm sorry, i forgot i didn't leave yet. Other then a few intrepid troubles i'm fine. Thanks.
[08:45] <Myrtti> what an original idea, BREAKFAST!
[09:15] <ikonia> well, I'm totally dissapointed and gutted, just been spoken to like a hunk of crap by an #fedora operator and given a load of attitude by another one
[09:19] <Myrtti> ho-hum.
[09:20] <Myrtti> I'm going to send an email to the mailing list soon.
[09:20] <Myrtti> hm.
[09:21] <Myrtti> now actually, if it goes through
[09:21] <ompaul> rpm -i ubuntu ?
[09:21]  * ompaul points to the last line for ikonia 
[09:22]  * Myrtti goes to make that chocolate milk
[09:26] <ikonia> ompaul: ubuntu can't run on everything, but I take your point
[09:27] <ikonia> I've never had a problem with any of those guys, in fact I've found some really positive projects/gems/irc-friends through them, just really taken back
[09:27] <ikonia> not to worry, back to work
[09:36] <elkbuntu> ikonia, tall poppy syndrome sucks
[09:37] <ikonia> poppy ?
[09:37] <elkbuntu> flowers
[09:38] <ompaul> ikonia, the big one gets picked
[09:38] <ompaul> putting your head over the parapet etc
[09:38] <ikonia> ahhh
[09:38] <elkbuntu> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tall_Poppy_Syndrome
[09:39] <Myrtti> omnomnom, chocolate milk from *real* cocoa powder
[09:39] <elkbuntu> nom
[09:40] <elkbuntu> ikonia, the one group of fanatics that hate us more than debian fanatics, is fedora fanatics.
[09:41] <Myrtti> proverb of the day: "But I only wanted to be friends and help"
[09:41] <elkbuntu> heh
[09:41] <elkbuntu> smashmouth: why cant we be friends
[09:41] <ikonia> I get on well with them normally though, I think the guy in question was enraged by the fact I'd disabled SELinux
[09:42] <elkbuntu> ikonia, yeah, they are a little protective of that nuisance
[09:43] <ikonia> he toned it down when I explained it
[09:43] <elkbuntu> heh
[09:44] <ikonia> I was having an apache issue and the first thing everyone always asks is "is SELinux blocking it", as this is a test machine it was disabled, so I mentioned it to provide "info" and save the obvious "is SELinux blocking it" comments
[09:44] <ikonia> he seems to have become quite friendly all of a sudden
[09:44] <elkbuntu> that's always eerie
[09:44] <ikonia> more so now the other guy in question realises that looks like a bug in their default re-write rules that ship with fedora
[09:45] <ikonia> I think they must get fed up of the more new users blaming SELinux for everything, or SELinux rightly doing someting and the newer guys not checking it
[09:45] <elkbuntu> same as we get tired of repeating the sudo explanation
[09:46] <ikonia> I only mentioned it to stop some of the other guys flooding me with SELinux is your problem comments when it's pretty obvious its not
[09:46] <ikonia> elkbuntu: exactly
[09:46] <ikonia> ok, I'll log this bug then and avoid serving up humble pie :)
[09:47] <elkbuntu> heh
[09:52]  * Myrtti does a magic trick
[10:00] <Myrtti> ta-dah!
[10:00]  * wgrant jumps back in surprise.
[10:01] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, you're seeming much chirpier today
[10:01] <Myrtti> when in reality I'm not
[10:01]  * ompaul waits
[10:01] <Myrtti> but I think things might go better from now on
[10:02] <bazhang> Myrtti, they will
[10:02] <elkbuntu> Myrtti, thinking like that helps :)
[10:03] <Myrtti> more chocolate milk and rye bread, methinks.
[10:04] <ompaul> more rye bread less chocolate*
[10:04] <wgrant> s/ milk/
[10:04] <ompaul> sudo apt-get remove --purge sugary-things
[10:05] <Myrtti> ompaul: my chocolate milk has no added sugar
[10:05] <Myrtti> the cocoa powder has none
[10:05]  * ompaul declares #world_is_strange
[10:07] <Myrtti> I've used sugarless cocoa powder for three years already...
[10:07] <Myrtti> baking cocoa powder or like...
[10:08]  * ompaul declares #world_is_stranger
[10:08]  * ompaul declares #world_is_strangest
[10:08] <ompaul> who knows
[10:20] <Myrtti> I should clean pigseh cage :-<
[10:22] <ompaul> begone ohh cleaner of cages and give the creatures some comfort
[10:23] <ompaul> then and only then the universe will be at balance with itself
[10:25] <Myrtti> or then I could just release them on the balcony again
[10:27] <ompaul> do both?
[10:27] <Myrtti> yea
[10:27] <ompaul> make positive bold steps in the direction of the balcony with cleaning kit in hand
[11:27] <Myrtti> *sigh*
[11:27] <Myrtti> you still haven't invented teleportation, I see.
[11:27] <Myrtti> I'm disappointed.
[11:47]  * Myrtti sighs
[11:47] <Myrtti> despite all the hardships in life... it's nice to have love.
[12:15] <Myrtti> and a pink moka pot.
[14:09] <BashItOut> I've been told to go here as i'm banned from the channel #ubuntu
[14:09] <BashItOut> But i've never been on that channel
[14:11] <Myrtti> I suspect the reason you are banned it related to your nick, ident and cloak.
[14:11] <Myrtti> s/it/is/
[14:11] <BashItOut> But
[14:11] <BashItOut> Is there anyway to be unbanned?
[14:13] <PriceChild> Myrtti: hmm?
[14:13] <PriceChild> BashItOut: one mo
[14:13] <PriceChild> @btlogin
[14:15] <Myrtti> PriceChild: I believe it's baSHITout ;-)
[14:15] <Myrtti> or I suspect it is
[14:15] <BashItOut> NO!
[14:15] <BashItOut> Bash <-- Linux Shell
[14:15] <BashItOut> Bash - It - Out
[14:15] <Myrtti> yes
[14:16] <PriceChild> i don't think it is.. lastlog of shit doesn't pull up one of those bans... which makes me think i'm broken
[14:16] <Myrtti> but the bans don't diffrentiate caps and normal letters
[14:16] <Myrtti> you're broken?
[14:16] <Myrtti> @btlogin
[14:16] <PriceChild> aha found it
[14:16] <PriceChild> BashItOut: try now.
[14:17] <BashItOut> thats better
[14:17] <Myrtti> told you
[14:17] <BashItOut> Thanks
[14:18] <Myrtti> stdin: it would be cool if one could set the default timezone to ubottu
[14:18] <Myrtti> stdin: is that possible?
[14:18] <Myrtti> so that when I login, the bantracker would automatically give the logs in EEST
[14:19] <PriceChild> i 'believe' if you maintain the same session it will maintain the timezone
[14:20]  * Myrtti gives PriceChild a stinking guinea pig
[14:25] <PriceChild> how rude
[14:46] <Myrtti> sneezing guinea pig!
[14:46] <Myrtti> they always stink
[14:47] <Myrtti> they're warm and fuzzy and loving little creatures
[15:12] <Myrtti> and they squeal
[15:12] <Myrtti> a lot.
[16:27] <Myrtti> anyone used pastebinit more?
[16:35] <Myrtti> everytime someone uses ntfs on linux, a baby whale cries
[16:38] <mernil> i was banned from kubuntu today. I want that op to be removed from his privileges. It was stdin.
[16:39] <mernil> he banned me because i used the word "shit", and he said it was a swear word??
[16:39] <Myrtti> you really think that was the reason you were banned?
[16:39] <Myrtti> we've got logs.
[16:40] <mernil> Myrtti: be my guest to read them!
[16:40] <Myrtti> I have
[16:40] <mernil> and?
[16:40] <Myrtti> I don't think I've felt as much repulsed by someones actions in IRC for a long time.
[16:41] <mernil> Myrtti: i know, stdin behavior is simply repulsive!
[16:42] <Myrtti> by your behaviour.
[16:42] <mernil> okay, i got angry in the end talking to him. But that should not cause me a ban
[16:42] <mernil> Myrtti: just give me one example why i got banned?
[16:43] <mernil> just one!!!
[16:44] <mernil> now Myrtti goes though the logs trying to find something.. fucking lamer!
[16:45] <Myrtti> I could have used some backups
[16:45] <Myrtti> thanks anyway for participating
[16:46] <Nafallo> as usual... I don't comment on stuff I haven't seen.
[16:46]  * Myrtti pokes Daviey 
[16:46] <Myrtti> er
[16:46] <Myrtti> Dave2:
[16:55] <Myrtti> I need to pastebin some stuff from compile time and I've got no idea how I can pipe them all to a file or pastebinit
[16:55] <Myrtti> merh.
[17:05] <jussi01> oh fun...
[17:05] <Myrtti> oh
[17:05] <Myrtti> didn't know the floodbots could do that
[17:07] <jussi01> me neither...
[17:12] <Dave2> Myrtti, hm?
[17:12] <Myrtti> nevermind
[17:12] <Myrtti> he's gone
[17:13] <Dave2> ah, didn't notice how long ago it was
[17:13]  * Dave2 has been cleaning his room
[17:14] <Myrtti> you was on irc just then...
[17:14]  * Myrtti slaps Dave2 
[17:14] <Dave2> I was?
[17:14] <Myrtti> you was.
[17:14] <Myrtti> 18:39 <@Dave2> :o
[17:14] <Myrtti> 18:39 < Nafallo> ah good. I was actually hungry.
[17:14] <Myrtti> 18:39 -'@: oh for crying out loud...
[17:14] <Dave2> I wasn't on IRC when I was poked though!
[17:14] <Myrtti> nope
[17:43] <PriceChild> Myrtti: jussi01: that was one of the prerequisites for allowing mibbit users in.
[17:43] <jussi01> PriceChild: ahhh
[17:43] <jussi01> makes sense
[17:44] <PriceChild> else ban management on them wouldn't have been fun at all
[17:45] <jussi01> yeah. I can see that would be horrible
[17:46] <PriceChild> there's no way to override exempts
[17:52]  * ompaul swats swat
[17:53] <ompaul> PriceChild, I was watching coverage of Munster vs American Eagles - they kept saying the rules were strange, the pitch is turf,  and I could not take it any more when they said that one player played for the "U20" team
[17:54] <ompaul> actually sorry
[17:54] <ompaul> Munster U20 like it was a specific team
[17:54] <ompaul> I just cracked up and had to walk
[17:54] <ompaul> for those who don't know that would be the Munster under 20s
[17:54] <ompaul> as in age
[17:56] <PriceChild> riiiiight :)
[17:58] <ompaul> PriceChild, it is called - your commentary turned the game into comedy
[17:59] <PriceChild> lol ok
[17:59] <ompaul> ohh and for some crazy reason two players from Munster are on the pitch with no numbers on their backs
[17:59] <ompaul> and this is a pro game argh
[18:33]  * Myrtti yawns
[18:52]  * SWAT swats ompaul 
[19:00] <Myrtti> 20:58  mentor> Myrtti: You're the first person in aeons that knows how to ask questions.
[19:00] <Myrtti> woo.
[19:12]  * Myrtti sighs
[19:20] <SWAT> it's an important quality
[19:24] <PriceChild> Is it me... or did floodbot 1 unban but not ban?
[19:27] <PriceChild> Anyone around?
[19:28] <Myrtti> sure
[19:28] <Myrtti> they're supposed to do fine since they're not hanging...
[19:28] <PriceChild> pardon?
[19:29] <Myrtti> not in emergency mode
[19:29] <Myrtti> sorry, had both verbal and physical brain freeze
[19:30] <PriceChild> so why did it not ban, and suddenly decide to unban only after i banned?
[19:30]  * PriceChild scratches his head
[19:54] <Myrtti> why did I respond in #ubuntu-irc...
[19:54] <Nafallo> I wondered the same thing :-)
[19:56] <Myrtti> perhaps its my public service attitude...
[19:56] <Myrtti> Tallken: hello
[19:57] <Tallken> damn
[19:57] <Tallken> sorry
[19:57] <Tallken> lol
[19:57] <Tallken> copied autojoin config from older file
[19:57] <Tallken> which had this on autojoin
[19:57] <Tallken> ;)
[19:57] <Tallken> cya
[20:03] <Myrtti> fcol
[20:03] <Myrtti> I'm too nice.
[20:06] <Myrtti> "All 1500 conversations in "Launchpad-Answers" are selected." [Delete]
[21:32] <Flannel> sigh
[21:35] <TiredWolf> Flannel, if "fucking assholes" is not language that deserve an immediate kick, i don't know what is.
[21:36] <PriceChild> TiredWolf: We try to abide by https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/OperatorGuidelines
[21:36] <nalioth> TiredWolf: everyone gets to the end of their rope every once in a while
[21:36] <TiredWolf> i know what you try to abide to
[21:36] <TiredWolf> just, next time someone scolds me off when i call !ops, when the call is actually VERY well deserved, i'm going to be pissed.
[21:36] <Myrtti> we give them enough rope for them to hang themselves into that
[21:37] <TiredWolf> ah sure
[21:37] <TiredWolf> give rope in the main public support channel
[21:37] <TiredWolf> that's very helpful to the other users in there
[21:38] <Flannel> TiredWolf: the difference between a warning and a kick wouldn't have removed the language from the channel.
[21:40] <TiredWolf> Flannel, it would have made it clear it's a pretty serious issue. besides, if "you're there", you'd have warned already, as i *waited* before calling !ops.
[21:40] <TiredWolf> of course, you can be busy and that's fine, but then you don't scold me off for calling !ops.
[21:40] <Flannel> TiredWolf: I told you, I was in the middle of another message.
[21:42] <PriceChild> Perhaps telling you ops were watching instead of doing something wasn't the best thing to do, perhaps not. However I don't see anything I would describe as 'scolding' tbh.
[21:43] <TiredWolf> well, the lack of action and instead telling me ops were watching sounded like implicit scolding to me, though then again i might possibly have read too much into it.
[21:44] <TiredWolf> which might be helped by it being the second time this sort of thing happens...
[21:44] <TiredWolf> well, have a good day or night folks
[22:27] <ajmitch> joy, an abusive user in #ubuntu-devel
[22:27] <PriceChild> vidd?
[22:27] <ajmitch> martinwm
[22:28] <Nafallo> martinwm
[22:28] <nalioth> not good
[22:29] <Nafallo> he seems less bright :-)
[22:29] <Nafallo> "debian-project"+"Patrick Frank" on google
[22:30] <PriceChild> I was looking at the wrong channel.
[22:30] <PriceChild> and was confused, looking at the most active in the channel at the time *fails*
[22:50] <stdin> Re: mernil, to make things more clear, mernil is banned from #kubuntu because it's clear he can't be trusted in there. Being constantly offtopic, despite being told to use -offtopic, and the abusive behaviour in /msg with me, makes me think he will not behave in #k
[22:55] <ompaul> stdin, reading the logs I more than concur