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whileimherehi there. What package do I need to install again to get the Network manager to remember my password?00:26
joakimHi, I get "XIO:  fatal IO error 22 (Invalid argument) on X server" when running glxgears and no 3d games seem to work00:36
joakimglxgears do show right, but playonlinux says I dont have 3d enabled00:37
joakimAny Ideas? Direct rendering is :YES so how do I enable 3d?00:38
joakimxubuntu 8.04 nvidia restricted00:38
joakimneed help with nvidia 3d acceleration in xubuntu00:47
marenostrumI am a user of Xubuntu and what's more a bug assignee. For the reason to see what's going on about the bugs, I'mtrying to find a way/address to download the latest very very unstable relase(nightly lets say) but from Web via ubuntu  > xubuntu etc. I couldn't do it. I'm devoting my "old" machine to this task. I'll install the nightlies. So, where are they?00:54
marenostrumIsn't here any Xubuntu developer. Come on, you are about to hire a very devoted tester!00:59
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Odd-rationalemarenostrum: cody-somerville just joined right after you... He should be in here somewhere... :)01:01
marenostrumi am waiting01:02
marenostrumthanks for voice01:02
Odd-rationalemarenostrum: what you are trying to get the latest 4.6 ?01:03
marenostrumsorry? what is after 8.04... ibety or something like yhat.01:04
marenostrum8.1001:04
marenostrumnightlies of 8.1001:04
Odd-rationale8.10 intrepid ibex01:04
marenostrumyessssss01:04
cody-somervillehttp://cdimages.ubuntu.com01:05
Odd-rationaleoh ok. i thought you meant xfce 4.601:05
marenostrumlets check. thanks. but coddy-summerville will be still usefull if she/he is in charge of such things because I'm tired of talking about bugs AFTER the release, I want to be a tester.01:07
* cody-somerville is right here.01:07
marenostrumhello01:07
cody-somervilleHello :-]01:08
marenostrumin short: iwant the nightlies...01:08
marenostrumi want to install them...01:08
cody-somervilleTo download the latest daily cd build, see http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu01:08
marenostrumand tell you about them.01:08
Odd-rationalehopefully, xfce 4.6 will be ready for 8.10. I'm glad they timed it nicely.. :D01:09
marenostrumi am sure talking about xubuntu01:09
marenostrumIso....01:10
marenostrumif i download the nightlies....01:10
* NCommander tackles cody01:10
marenostrumwill the way be to assign a bug?01:10
marenostrumthere are many bugs still not handled.01:11
marenostrumor is therea more direct way?01:11
* cody-somerville flails.01:11
marenostrumsorry?01:12
cody-somervillemarenostrum, What you'll want to do is make sure to report them against the correct package01:12
cody-somervillemarenostrum, We generally don't assign a bug to someone unless they specifically are working on a fix01:12
NCommandercody-somerville, we're all packaged01:12
NCommander:-)01:12
cody-somervillemarenostrum, If the package doesn't automatically subscribed xubuntu-team, subscribe xubuntu-team manually01:13
cody-somervillemarenostrum, If the bug still doesn't get attention from Xubuntu folks, poke us in #xubuntu-devel or mail the xubuntu-devel mailing list.01:13
marenostrumi can showyou someproblems which are valid and not corrected for the last 2 or 3 releases. I want to test and let you know for 8.10.... forget about the past.01:14
* cody-somerville nods.01:15
cody-somervilleSplendid.01:15
NCommandercody-somerville, care to test it as soon as I copy all the binaries01:17
marenostrumcody-somerville, I am trying to think on your replies for about 10-15 minutes. Although tey ate not new ways, Ok, I'll do so. Thanks for your kind replies.01:27
Odd-rationalehey, thunar can restore from trash and nautilus can't?!01:27
cody-somervilleCorrect01:29
marenostrumgood night01:30
dpickdoes anyone know a good cli instant messaging program?05:10
Helloworld22Which MD5 hashes can I trust? I found 2 different hashes on two different mirrors for the same file. When I downloaded the same file (8.4 x86 install cd) from two different mirrors, each file had a different hash05:15
Helloworld22Maybe just a download error05:16
* Helloworld22 searches for gpg keys05:16
itachiare u the guys that hack with ubuntu?05:23
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nikolamhi I am using xubuntu with tightvnc server over ssh connection10:17
nikolamwhenever i try to start xfce panel, server crashes10:17
nikolamI managed to start xfdesktop and termilan and xfwm410:18
nikolamterminal10:18
Ben_Cshello10:20
nikolamhi10:22
Ben_Csdo you know how to set window border like in: http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=80431&forumpage=110:28
Ben_Cs?10:28
PsynoKhi0heya, is there a comprehensive list of changes between gutsy and hardy for xubuntu? more specifically package versions12:27
MyrttiI don't like this new task list12:37
Myrttiwell, "new"12:37
Myrttino matter how tall the panel it is in is, the icons stay the same size12:37
squirrelpimpi reinstalled 8.04.01 on my notebook and now i get the nm-applet twice in the tray whenever i login. I tried deleting .cache/* without luck12:49
squirrelpimpwhere else could it get started?12:49
squirrelpimpso i can disable one copy of it12:50
squirrelpimpor could be started twice for me having the wired and the wireless card?12:50
PsynoKhi0do you have different output if you right click on the icons and check Information?12:52
PsynoKhi0outputs*12:52
squirrelpimpi found it12:54
squirrelpimpit happend to sneak into autostarted apps twice... which were configured from the gui12:54
PsynoKhi0:)12:54
squirrelpimpi suck at gui-operations12:54
squirrelpimp:)12:54
squirrelpimpexcept browsing12:54
nubuntui just downloaded LAMPserver, and now trying to download magentocommerce from page http://www.magentocommerce.com/download/noregister , could someone help me thru this?16:38
ThinkMinusHello everyone16:39
ThinkMinusI am going to start installing Xubuntu in 1 hour and I expect to run internet on it.......and i know that it will need a lot of tweaking..........16:41
ThinkMinusany help here?'16:41
nubuntuThinkMinus: i haven't had a lot of problems with internet on x, what probs do you anticipate?16:44
ThinkMinusI ran xubuntu live cd and tried running internet.....but ended with failure16:46
nubuntui just downloaded LAMPserver, and now trying to download magentocommerce from page http://www.magentocommerce.com/download/noregister , could someone help me thru this?16:46
ThinkMinusalso I'm a newbie to linux16:46
nubuntui've installed on a fair amount of boxes and usually no prob with internet configs16:48
nubuntuat any rate, theres always ppl here to help16:48
nubuntujust like the government16:48
nubuntui'm with the government, and i'm here to help ... kind of thing :)16:49
ThinkMinusI will try dual booting X wid windows xp just to connect to internet else I will format xp partition:)16:50
ThinkMinusOK....i am now going to install X and see if everything goes fine16:51
ThinkMinusThanks nubuntu........16:51
ThinkMinusand goodbye16:51
nubuntuk, you don't have another machine to stay connected during the install?16:58
nubuntugotta go, brb16:58
nubuntui just downloaded LAMPserver, and now trying to download magentocommerce from page http://www.magentocommerce.com/download/noregister , could someone help me thru this?17:08
nubuntuneed help to know which format to download and then install17:09
nubuntuthree formats available: zip, tar.gz, and tar.bz217:17
GrraiI run xubuntu gutsy, have all repos enabled but can't find package module-assistant. any suggestions?17:17
vinnlnubuntu, it shouldn't matter I suppose17:18
vinnlnubuntu, they are just different formats for collections of files and Xubuntu can open them all17:18
vinnl(I haven't worked with Magentocommerce though)17:18
vinnlGrrai, you can download the package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/module-assistant17:19
Grraivinnl: thanksalot17:19
nubuntuvinnl, so ones not easier than another?17:20
vinnlnubuntu, the tar.bz2 is the smallest and thus quickest to download ;-)17:20
vinnlnubuntu, wait, I'll check out the page17:21
nubuntuya, i'm more worried about how to extract it after the download17:21
vinnlnubuntu, ah, no, it doesn't matter indeed17:21
vinnlnubuntu, just double-click, or right-click and select "Extract to"17:21
nubuntuvinnl, so for purposes of extracting/executing?17:22
nubuntuvinnl, where will i extract to?17:22
nubuntudesktop?17:22
vinnlnubuntu, yeah, I don't know how long you'll need those files, if you just need them temporarily you can also download them to /tmp17:23
nubuntuvinnl, well i want to have it installed on the machine, do i just delete them after the extraction, or do they need to stay on the desktop?17:24
vinnlLet me see...17:24
vinnlnubuntu, you want to install it on your local machine?17:25
nubuntuyes, want to play around with it before i go to hosting17:26
vinnlnubuntu, then you'll want to extract it to /var/www17:26
nubuntuok, lemme try17:26
vinnlThat's probably not going to work right away17:27
vinnlnubuntu, can you open a terminal window?17:27
nubuntuvinnl, ya i can, should i do that before i extract to /var/www?  was just about to press the red button17:28
vinnlnubuntu, no, you just need to create a folder there and make sure you can extract the files there :)17:28
nubuntuuhhhh, ok ... how do i create the folder :)  ?17:29
vinnlnubuntu, have you opened a terminal?17:29
nubuntuon the extract box it has boxes checked that say 're-create folders' and another says 'overwrite existing files'17:31
nubuntuya, i have terminal open also17:31
vinnlOK, type "sudo mkdir /var/www/magento"17:32
nubuntuk, should i close the 'extract' box?17:33
vinnlThen type "sudo chmod -R 777 /var/www/magento"17:33
vinnlNo17:33
nubuntuk, hold on17:34
vinnlAfter you've entered those commands (which create the directory /var/www/magento and sets write permissions for everybody) you can extract the archive to /tmp, make sure re-create folders is checked17:34
nubuntuhmmmm ....ok, so i'm no longer extracting to /var/www ?17:36
vinnlNo :)17:36
vinnlWell, in a minute, sort of :P17:37
nubuntuso, i should close the extract box, and reopen it and extract to /tmp ?17:37
vinnlYep, that'll do :)17:38
* nubuntu confused17:39
vinnl?17:39
nubuntuok, lemme try17:39
nubuntuk, i guess it is extracting to tmp ... i hope so17:40
vinnlIs there a dialog box with a throbber?17:40
nubuntuuhhhh, what's a throbber?  is that appropriate language for the room :)17:41
vinnl:P17:41
vinnlA progress bar17:41
nubuntusry.   couldn't resist17:41
vinnlHehe17:41
nubuntuya, there was a progress bar, but i think its done and gone...17:42
nubuntuya, its gone17:42
vinnlOK, then if you look at /tmp, there should be a magento folder, right?17:42
nubuntuis terminal sposed to be open still?17:43
nubuntulemme go look in filesys17:43
vinnlYeah, I forgot something just now so keep it open a bit17:43
nubuntuyes, there is a magento in /tmp17:44
vinnlGreat, copy the contents of that directory to /var/www/magento17:44
nubuntuuhhhhh, ok .... how :P ?17:44
vinnlPress Ctrl+A to select all, then Ctrl+C to copy, then move to /var/www/magento and press Ctrl+V to paste17:45
nubuntuk, so first i click on the magento file ?17:45
vinnlOh sorry, you first move to /tmp/magento17:46
vinnlThen do the above17:46
nubuntuomg, lemme see if i can17:47
vinnlI believe in you ;-)17:48
vinnl(We have to hurry though, dinner's ready)17:48
nubuntuok, its copying to var www mag17:49
nubuntuk,17:49
vinnlDone?17:49
nubuntuya, seems to be17:49
vinnlCool, then you run "sudo chmod -R 777 /var/www/magento" in the terminal window again17:50
vinnlAfter that you should be able to visit localhost/magento in a browser and start the installation17:51
nubuntuk, done17:51
vinnlI really gotta go now, though17:51
vinnlGood luck :)17:51
nubuntuk, thx17:51
nubuntu:)17:51
vinnlBye :)17:52
nubuntuk, bye17:53
nubuntui report later17:53
nubuntuuhhh, vinnl just helped me download magento, and we placed it into var www magento, but when i point my browser to localhost/magento , i get a box axing me to to  'open with' (browse), or 'save file', but the file is already saved isn't it???18:00
nubuntudo i have to spell out more than localhost/magento ???18:01
nubuntui had someone in xubuntu room help me load magento into a file called var/www/magento , but he/she had to go to dinner on way out said i had to put 'localhost/magento' into a browser to start install process, but when i put that in i get a box with choice to 'open with' or save ... can anyone help me?18:10
vinnlnubuntu, and? Did it work? :)18:34
nubuntuhi vinn1, having trouble18:37
nubuntunubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ ls index.html  magento nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ sudo chmod 777 -R /magento chmod: cannot access `/magento': No such file or directory nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$18:37
vinnlnubuntu, try "sudo chmod 777 -R ./magento" :)18:38
japherwockywhat do I use to check balance settings for my audio?18:38
nubuntuwhen i entered 'localhost/magento' got a box to 'open with' or save18:39
vinnljapherwocky, I know nothing about audio, but do you mean xfce4-mixer?18:39
vinnlnubuntu, and what do you get if you do ls in /var/www/magento?18:39
japherwockythe xfce4-mixer doesn't seem to have a left/right balance adjuster18:40
steven_hello18:40
nubuntudon't know here is what the term looks like right now: nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ ls index.html  magento nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ sudo chmod 777 -R /magento chmod: cannot access `/magento': No such file or directory nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ sudo chmod 777 -R ./magento nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$18:41
vinnlHey steven_18:41
steven_hye18:41
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s_Evenhow are you vinnl18:41
nubuntuvinn1, that last time it din't say no such file18:42
s_Evenhello vidd18:43
nubuntuvinnl: could it be that 'extra'  dot . in there?18:43
viddhell s_Even18:43
vinnlI'm fine s_Even  :)18:43
vinnlnubuntu, yeah18:43
vidd*hello18:43
vinnlThat dot says "look in the current folder"18:44
nubuntuvinn1, still can't get anything in the browser18:44
viddmy issue is that the live cd of 8.04.1 is locking up at "detecting file systems"18:45
vidd4.9GB hd, 256MB ram18:46
s_Evenhmm....18:46
s_Evendid you try a 2nd time?18:46
s_Evensometimes live-CD really s*cks18:46
viddim in the middle of my 6th time18:46
vinnlnubuntu, that sounds like a Magento issue, I'd recommend you to look at their support18:46
viddim doing maunual disk partition now18:46
nubuntuk, thx18:47
s_Evenhmm...18:47
s_Evenare you making a dual boot?18:47
viddwasnt the intention18:47
s_Evenand now windows 's on it?18:47
viddnothing loads anymore18:48
viddthe strange thing is, when i just went into the manual,18:48
viddpartition, it said the bulk of the drive wqs ntfs...not ext318:49
s_Eveni'm sorry, but i really don't know how to help you18:49
viddi just set it to ext3....see what happens18:49
viddwell....i am dl'ing the alt cd18:50
viddheh....i should have done that 3 hours ago!18:50
s_Even:p18:50
s_Eventrue18:50
s_Evenyou can also order an official disk18:51
s_Eventhose also work correctly18:51
viddchanging the file system to ext3 instad of leaving it ntfs solved it18:51
viddthere is no "official" disk for xubuntu to order18:51
viddonly ubuntu and kubuntu, and edubuntu18:52
s_Evendamned, true18:53
s_Evenforgotten :$18:53
viddwe're to "new age" for them =]18:53
s_Even:p18:53
s_Evenbut i should go, i'm sorry18:53
viddnubuntu, still having your issue?19:08
nubuntuyes, yes,vidd19:09
nubuntucannot get app running19:09
viddi came in the room late...can you restate the issue for me?19:09
nubuntui had someone in xubuntu room help me load magento into a file called var/www/magento , but he/she had to go to dinner on way out said i had to put 'localhost/magento' into a browser to start install process, but when i put that in i get a box with choice to 'open with' or save ... can anyone help me?19:10
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nubuntuvidd, so really haven't progressed from here19:10
viddnubuntu, do you have a web server installed? like apache2?19:10
vinnlvidd, yes19:11
vinnlvidd, otherwise he'd get a directory listing19:11
vinnl(Right?)19:11
nubuntui am also plugged into the magento room, but nobody there really able to help me either ... yes, well, i think i do, i followed install in community docs for lamp server19:11
vinnlYep19:11
vinnlnubuntu, what do you get if you visit just "localhost"?19:12
viddjust for S&G...run sudo apt-get apache219:12
zoredachedoes magento need php or something?19:12
nubuntuvinn1, din't try that, lemme go see19:13
viddnubuntu, what FILE is it asking you to download?19:14
vinnlYou should get "It works!"19:14
Prikolchikhi everyone! Could someone please help me configure Atheros AR5700EG wireless card?19:14
nubuntuget a page that says: IT Works!  what's that mean?19:14
viddnubuntu, that means your apache is configured correctly19:14
vinnlnubuntu, that your webserver works properly :)19:14
viddtry this nubuntu19:15
nubuntuzoredache, i think it does need php, but isn't that part of the server?19:15
zoredacheno... you need to install it19:15
viddsudo chown 33:33 -Rf /var/www/magento19:15
nubuntuvidd, i is all ears19:15
zoredachewell you may need to install it... it kinda depends on what you have done so far... anyway try 'sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5'19:16
zoredacheyou'll probably need to restart apache after php is installed19:16
viddthen follow it up with sudo chmod -Rf 777 /var/www/magento19:16
vinnl<nubuntu> i just downloaded LAMPserver, and now trying to download magentocommerce from page http://www.magentocommerce.com/download/noregister , could someone help me thru this?19:17
vinnlSo PHP is supposed to be installed19:17
nubuntunubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ sudo chown 33:33 -Rf /var/www/magento nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$19:19
viddnubuntu, now sudo chmod -Rf 777 /var/www/magento19:19
Prikolchikhi everyone! Could someone please help me configure Atheros AR5700EG wireless card?19:19
nubuntuso doesn't that mean that php was already in?19:19
viddnubuntu, yes19:20
viddPrikolchik, what does lspci tell you the chipset for thast card is?19:20
nubuntuk, i did   sudo chmod -Rf 777 /var/www/magento   just comes back to command prompt19:20
Prikolchik03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)19:21
viddnubuntu, now go to the page http://localhost/magento19:21
nubuntuk, lemme try19:21
viddPrikolchik, you have mad wifi installed?19:22
nubuntuanybody remember the imagebin address offhand?  to show you screenshot19:23
viddPrikolchik, you have mad wifi installed?19:24
vinnlnubuntu, imageshack.us?19:24
Prikolchik1vidd, srry i got disconnected. did u say anything?19:27
viddnubuntu, your magento working?19:27
viddPrikolchik, you have mad wifi installed?19:27
Prikolchik1i have tried that but it seems to be using ath5k_pci instead of ath_pci (madwifi) driver19:27
Prikolchik1if i install madwifi i get same result as i have now19:28
viddand that is?19:28
Prikolchik1doesnt see any networks19:28
nubuntuvidd, no .... http://imagebin.org/2486619:28
Prikolchik1vidd, when asked to can for networks it doesnt find any19:29
Prikolchik1vidd, even if i configure manual connect it fails to connect19:29
viddis there a stupid power button for your wifi card?19:29
Prikolchik1there is. but it seems me be on by default (it is software controlled, im on Aspire One)19:30
viddPrikolchik1, push the power button19:30
vidddo you connect now?19:30
Prikolchik11 sec19:30
vinnlnubuntu, what if you go to localhost/magento/index.php?19:31
nubuntulemme try19:31
viddnubuntu, please pastebin ls -al for the directory /var/www/magento19:31
Prikolchik1vidd, still same. No scan results. Doesnt see any networks19:31
nubuntuvidd, what is complete command?19:32
Prikolchik1also lshw says:19:32
Prikolchik1  *-network19:32
Prikolchik1       description: Wireless interface19:32
Prikolchik1       product: AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter19:32
Prikolchik1so it mustbe on19:32
viddwhat does /etc/network/interfaces list it as? (or pastebin /etc/network/interfaces19:32
viddnubuntu, cd /var/www/magento19:33
viddthen ls -al19:33
nubuntuk, lemme try ... vinn1, no that index.php din't work either19:33
vinnlOK, too bad19:34
Prikolchik1vidd, that is what that file says: auto lo [[new line here]] iface lo inet loopback19:34
nubuntushoot, whats the dang pastebin address agin?19:35
viddso network interfaces does not show your eth0 or your wifi card19:35
vidd!pastebin19:35
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)19:36
vidddo you have an icon for "manual network configuation"?19:37
Prikolchik1vidd, http://paste.ubuntu.com/40226/19:37
Prikolchik1vidd, i have network manager? is that what u ask?19:38
viddyes19:38
Prikolchik1well, if i enter a network SSID "Dlink1" that i know is broadcasting and it has no encryption, it fails to connect19:39
viddset a static IP19:39
nubuntuhttp://imagebin.org/2486719:39
viddpreferably outside the DHCP range of the network you are connecting to19:40
nubuntuvidd, and vinn1, http://imagebin.org/2486719:40
vinnlnubuntu, ah19:41
vinnlnubuntu, try visiting localhost/magento/install.php19:41
viddvinnl, you type too fast =]19:41
nubuntuk, lemme try19:41
vinnlvidd, ^.^19:41
Prikolchik1vidd, same result. dosnt connect19:41
nubuntu??? :P19:41
vinnlnubuntu, try visiting that in your browser19:42
viddPrikolchik1, do you have physical access to this router your trying to access?19:42
Prikolchik1like 192.168.0.1?19:42
viddcan you lay hands on the device you are attempting to access?19:43
Prikolchik1vidd, what do u mean by that?19:44
vidd????19:44
viddcan you TOUCH it19:44
Prikolchik1vidd, yup19:44
viddcan you pick it up and move it across the room?19:44
nubuntui din't know this was a religious channel .. isn't laying hands a little desperate??? :)19:44
viddthat is physical access19:44
nubuntuhttp://imagebin.org/2486919:44
viddnubuntu, lol19:44
viddPrikolchik1, can you19:45
Prikolchik1vidd, ok =P. yes i have physical access. And i've also added the MAC address to the whitelist\19:45
Prikolchik1i can connect to router with windows no problem (im dual boot) but fail to in Xubuntu19:45
vinnlOK now that's just annoying19:45
nubuntutell me about it19:46
viddnubuntu, ive had this issue......19:46
viddrestart apache19:46
vinnlHmm, nubuntu, I'm not sure how outdated this is but some of the things listed at http://www.magentocommerce.com/wiki/general/installing-magento-on-slicehost-with-ubuntu might help if vidd runs out of useful advice ;-)19:47
viddsudo /etc/ini.d/apache2 restart19:47
vinnl*init.d19:47
nubuntuuhhhhh, ok .....u type too fast19:47
vinnlsudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart19:47
* vidd needs a new keyboard19:48
viddPrikolchik1, im drawing a blank now....19:48
nubunturestarting webserver apache219:48
nubuntucommand prompt19:48
viddtry access again19:49
viddPrikolchik1, ive never had that card myself19:49
* nubuntu has a garage full of keyboards; wonders where vidd be19:49
viddits eather that or i need to put my fingers on a diet!19:50
Prikolchik1vidd, well, i've had my friend's same laptop with this card and i somehow made the wireless work for him. But i failed to recreate thesuccess on my laptop19:50
* nubuntu needs a new piano19:50
Prikolchik1vidd, i tried ndiswrapper and windows drivers, but it just crashes Network Manager and doesnt help... also I've read somewhere that ath5k_pci (that is the driver that is currently active for wireless) automatically disables ath_pci (madwifi) if it is installed19:52
Prikolchik1vidd, so to get madwifi to work it seems like i need to remove ath5k driver... and how do i do this?19:52
Prikolchik1vidd, it comes in some sort of a package, i believe19:52
viddadd it to your blacklist19:53
hajhousei would like to use dnsmasq to cache dns requests on my notebook, which moves around to different networks and so uses different automatically configured dns servers at different times (/etc/resolv.conf is updated by dhclient i would assume). i think the logical way to do this is to configure dhclient to write the configured dns server addresses to some other file than /etc/resolv.conf, then set /etc/resolv.conf to localhost, and co19:53
nubuntuso after apache restart, ive tried in the browser 'localhost', and localhost/magento ... nothin doin19:53
Prikolchik1i've tried that before with no luck19:53
viddhave you REMOVED it from the blacklist?19:54
nubuntugotta run out 4 mins ... brb19:54
Prikolchik1i have installed madwifi, didnt work. Added ath5k to blacklist, desnt work, then i removed it from blacklist.19:55
viddPrikolchik1, i need to go smoke now...bb in a bit19:55
Prikolchik1ok19:55
Prikolchik1i'll try again for now19:55
Prikolchik1brb in 5mins19:55
Prikolchikdoes anybody know if there is any way i can reset the configuration of the wireless card?20:00
Prikolchikeven if i add drivers to the blacklist it still recognizes it at AR270x, whereas it is AR5007EG20:00
nubuntuvidd, and vinn1, i is baaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaccccccccccccck20:04
vinnlwb :)20:04
nubuntuany suggestions?20:06
vinnlnothin doin, does that mean that it's still trying to download the file?20:07
nubuntuwell, the file is already downloaded right?20:07
nubuntui get the box offering to open with or save file, but the file is aready saved20:08
viddyes...but its asking ya to download it20:08
viddim thinking its an apache config issue'20:08
nubuntuso am i sposed to 'save file' again??20:08
nubuntugod, i am going crosseyed20:09
vinnlnubuntu, no20:09
nubuntuover the last year i have convinced many friends to switch to linux.  some of them still speak to me.20:10
vinnlnubuntu, the file you have locally is "on the webserver", when you visit a webbrowser you're asked to download it to the visiting client, which in this case (since you're using localhost) happens to be the same as the webserver20:10
viddnubuntu, it is not a linux issue...it is an apache issue20:10
vinnlvidd, or a Magento issue I suppose20:10
viddno....apache does not know how to properly serve that php file20:11
nubuntuvinn1, wait a minute; so you mean i AM sposed to 'download' it?20:11
viddnubuntu, no20:11
vinnlnubuntu, no20:11
* nubuntu is confused20:11
vinnlnubuntu, what you're seeing is what a visitor of your website would see20:11
vinnlIf it were on a public server20:12
nubuntuover the last year i have convinced many friends to switch to linux. some of them still speak to me.  <---- was just a joke20:12
vinnl^.^20:13
nubuntuahhhhh, in other words, they would prolly not hang around long ...20:13
nubuntu:(20:13
vinnl"Linux" is a broad term ;-)20:13
nubuntuyup20:14
viddnubuntu, basically, you need to get your web server to properly display php20:16
nubuntuapparently, from what i am reading, i still havent really 'installed' magento; just downloaded it to a homefile huh...20:16
viddthat is correct20:16
nubuntuaaaaarrrrrrrrgggggghhhhh20:17
nubuntuyou guys have been so patient, i appreciate it, sorry to be such the pain20:17
vinnlnubuntu, can you execute the following command in a terminal:20:17
vinnlecho "<?php echo \"Yay\";" > /var/www/magento/t.php20:17
viddid be interested in seeing your /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file20:17
vinnlnubuntu, and then visit localhost/magento/t.php20:18
nubuntuno output from:  echo "<?php echo \"Yay\";" > /var/www/magento/t.php20:19
vinnlnubuntu, that's correct20:19
vinnlnubuntu, but if you visit localhost/magento/t.php?20:19
vinnl(In your browser)20:19
nubuntuget 'Yay' on blank page20:20
vinnlOK, so PHP is working correctly and can be served20:20
vinnl(You can delete /var/www/magento/t.php now)20:20
nubuntu??? what u mean, delete???20:21
viddvinnl, nice work.....(let me write that trick down....)20:21
vinnlnubuntu, that command before created the file /var/www/magento/t.php to test20:21
viddnubuntu, he had you create a file named t.php20:21
vinnlvidd, hehe, first time ever I used that ;-)20:22
nubuntuummmm, ok ... so i go to /var/www/ .... and just delete?20:22
viddthis tested that your web server DOES know how to properly display20:22
vinnlnubuntu, you have to go to /var/www/magento and delete the file t.php20:23
vinnl(Check the contents of that file if you like)20:23
viddsudo rm /var/www/magento/t.php20:23
vinnl(And then read the command above)20:23
Prikolchikoes anybody know if there is any way i can reset the configuration of the wireless card? so it uses the new drivers and recognizes it as right type or something?20:23
vinnlThat'll do too :)20:23
vinnlPrikolchik, how have you configured it?20:23
nubuntuk, so : >sudo rm /var/www/magento/t.php  will do the trick then?20:24
vinnlnubuntu, sudo isn't needed, but yes :)20:24
Prikolchikvinnl, by configuration i mean that xubuntu recognizes it as the wrong card. it says it is AR242x, but it is AR5700EG20:25
vinnlPrikolchik, oh, sorry, wouldn't know then :(20:25
nubuntuk, done20:25
vinnlPrikolchik, though it sounds like something people in #ubuntu will know20:25
Prikolchikvinnl, im there too atm, and they dont20:25
vinnlOK, now we just wait for vidd to think of a clever solution because I'm out of options nubuntu :(20:26
vinnlPrikolchik, :(20:26
nubuntuk, i was out long time now20:26
* vidd is on the phone with a customer20:26
vinnlSay hi to him :P20:26
nubuntuthat reminds me, i gotta get an email off to a client.  later.20:27
nubuntui mean that i'll email him later.  always have to make sure you speak precisely on these channels, huh20:29
nubuntugonna run throw some frozen drumsticks in a pot to sweat a while20:30
viddok....im back20:44
viddnubuntu, you back?20:44
nubuntuyup.20:45
viddtry this :20:45
nubuntudid you have an epiphany?  whats an epiphany?  is it cathartic?20:46
viddsudo chmod -Rf 755 /var/www/magento20:46
viddcross your fingers, pray....=]20:46
viddepiphany is a web browser i think20:47
nubuntui will do anything to get obama elected20:47
vinnlThat's #xubuntu-offtopic talk :)20:48
nubuntu  including sudo chmod -Rf 755 /var/www/magento   if i have to ... now what20:48
viddsaying things like that to die-hard-republicans trying to help you ia a BAD thing!20:48
vinnlxD20:48
nubuntuomg.20:48
nubuntui sorry :)20:48
viddnow that you changed permissions, try to run the install.php file again20:49
nubuntuummmm, ... ok. lemme try (and find it)20:50
viddnubuntu, dont worry...im not going to walk you thru formating your hard drive =]20:50
vinnlxD20:51
nubuntuwhen you say 'run' the install.php , do you mean goto browser localhost/magento/install.php ?20:51
vinnlYep20:52
viddyes20:52
viddsurvey says?20:52
Flanneldon't chmod 755.... chmod +rX20:53
viddFlannel, we are working on things that are already 77720:54
nubuntuno dice.20:54
Flannelvidd: They shouldn't be 777 to begin wih, but alright.  I agree that 755 is better than 777.20:54
vinnlFlannel, that's what the Magento documentation said20:54
viddFlannel, any input on how to make this guy's apache properly display php pages?20:55
nubuntui'm sure its WAY over my head20:55
vinnlSpecifically Magento20:55
Flannelvidd: That documentation is horrible then.20:55
Flannelvinnl: Do you have libapache2-mod-php5 installed?20:55
vinnlFlannel, I do, but it's nubuntu's problem ;-)20:55
viddFlannel, nubuntu is the one in need20:55
vinnlAnd he has, I believe20:55
viddhehe20:56
nubuntui believe that's the one that installed ...20:56
vinnl<nubuntu> nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ sudo chown 33:33 -Rf /var/www/magento nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$20:56
vinnlSo yes20:56
viddso....20:56
nubuntuhow do i verify ... nvr mind ... u type too fast20:56
Flannelnubuntu: Alright, and `ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled | grep php` returns two files, right?20:58
nubuntusry, mom called. i don't unnrstand the question ...21:01
viddtype ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled | grep php21:01
viddit should return 2 files....yes or no?21:02
nubuntudo you mean for me to :   ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled | grep php   into the term?21:02
vinnlYep21:02
vinnlShould look like this:21:02
vinnl$ ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled | grep php21:02
vinnllrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2008-06-19 12:45 php5.conf -> ../mods-available/php5.conf21:02
vinnllrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2008-06-19 12:45 php5.load -> ../mods-available/php5.load21:02
nubuntulrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2008-08-24 11:27 php5.conf -> ../mods-available/php5.conf21:03
nubuntulrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2008-08-24 11:27 php5.load -> ../mods-available/php5.load21:03
nubuntunubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www/magento$21:03
nubuntuok, so yes, two files21:04
viddnubuntu, is this box your working on world facing?21:04
nubuntuyou mean live?? no.21:05
viddno...not live...world facuing21:05
viddcan you access it from outside your network?21:05
nubuntuhmmmm ...not that i know of, do you want to access it?21:05
nubuntui have no prob with that.21:06
viddno...i wasnt YOU to access it21:06
viddthe issue may be that you are too close to the app21:06
nubuntu??? i don't unnrstand ???21:06
viddyou have another machine on your network?21:07
nubuntutheres another computer in the room, if thats what you mean?21:07
nubuntubut they're not really 'networkd', just on the same router21:08
nubuntui'm guessing that's *not* what u meant21:10
viddon that other machine ... go to [server ip address]/magento/install.php21:11
viddnubuntu, actually, that was EXACTLY what i meant21:11
nubuntuwait, so i need to determine my server ip?21:12
nubuntulike, numerically?21:12
viddyes21:12
viddusually something like 192.168.1.10121:12
viddin a terminal type ifconfig21:13
viddit would be the inet address21:13
nubuntusome website just told me its 76.109.0.8321:14
Ben_Csgood evening21:14
nubuntudoes that sound right21:14
viddnubuntu, that is your world-facing ip address21:14
nubuntuso that's the one?21:15
viddno...your INTERNAL ip address21:15
viddifconfig21:16
viddthat will tell you21:16
nubuntuk, 192.168.0.107/magento/install.php    <---- like that, in the other machine?21:17
viddyes21:17
vidddo you get the same "download" message?21:18
nubuntuk, should i open the chat from there?21:18
viddno need21:18
nubuntuok, gimme couple mins not sure if she left it on21:18
viddunless you are going to ssh into that machine21:19
viddhehe21:19
nubuntuOHHHHHH  MYYYYY   GOOOOOOOD.  Welcome to Magento's Installation Wizard ... So I did, I did taw a puddy tat!21:24
vinnl\0/21:24
viddtold ya you were too close to it21:25
nubuntuHow come it's showing up on THAT machine??21:25
viddcuzz its a different machine21:25
vidduse the ip and not localhost on yours21:25
nubuntuwhat do u mean too close to it???  so you mean input the same way on this one now?21:26
viddyes21:26
nubuntuso does that mean that all 3000 people in the room can now hack into my computer????21:26
nubuntulol21:27
nubuntuor not lol :(21:27
LoCaLMaChIn1anyone know why the ubuntu channel screwed up?21:27
nubuntuwhat about the state secrets?21:27
nubuntuim pluggd into ubuntu, seems to be working fine21:28
LoCaLMaChIn1hmmm everytime I try to switch it freezes big time21:29
nubuntuvidd, and vinn1 ... question ... so if i downloaded the lampserver to that other machine i could access from either one??21:31
vinnlnubuntu, they'd be different installations21:31
vinnlnubuntu, btw, the last letter of my name is an "l" ;-) (You can also type "vin" then press <tab> :)21:32
nubuntuso as i save pages onto this machine, they would not be accessible on that one?21:32
vinnlSave pages?21:33
viddnubuntu, on the acual machine, go to  192.168.0.107/magento/install.php21:33
nubuntuthen how come the install wizard shows up there?21:33
viddinstead of  localhost/magento/install.php21:33
nubuntuya, i am on it21:33
nubuntuhaven't started anything with it yet cuz i'm still dumbfounded.  dumb, anyways.21:34
Ben_Csbtw guys why use nubuntu and not backtrack?21:34
LoCaLMaChIn1anyone else having problems with the Ubuntu channel21:34
viddBen_Cs, what do you mean?21:35
Ben_Csvidd: you're discussing nubuntu scripts no?21:35
viddno, we are talking to the user nubuntu21:36
Ben_Csvidd: oh i see :)21:36
nubuntuvidd, and vinnl, can i access the page from anywhere?  do i need to password protect it?21:36
nubuntui mean like, i'm my own live server now?21:37
LoCaLMaChIn1is glitsj6 here or has anyone seen him21:37
nubuntuBen_Cs: what are nubuntu scripts?21:37
viddas long as you are not forwarding http traffic via your router to that specific machine, you should be good21:38
Ben_Csnubuntu: scripts in "nubuntu" linux for phishing info and hacking +security21:39
nubuntuguys  gonna run have a smoke (and check on the drumsticks) don't leave (unless you gotta :)21:39
vinnlBen_Cs, ah, I've actually heard of that :)21:40
vinnlWasn't Backtrack nubuntu with a new name?21:40
LoCaLMaChIn1whats going with the ubuntu channel21:41
Ben_Csvinnl: backtrack is slax based and supposed to be better than nubuntu21:41
vinnlAh21:41
viddvinnl, any idea why his thing will display by ip addy and not with localhost?21:42
vinnlvidd, nope, but I'll be sure to remember it since I've had that problem with my own PHP scripts sometimes21:42
Prikolchikvidd, are u here?21:55
Prikolchikvidd, just want to let u know that i got the wireless card to work, lol. Once again, im not 100% sure how i've done it =D21:56
totalwormage:D21:56
viddPrikolchik, glad to here it21:57
Prikolchikyea, it is funny. In Windows u have no idea how u broke something and in Linux u have no idea how u fixed something...21:57
vinnlxD21:57
viddPrikolchik, did you reboot?21:57
Prikolchiknope21:57
viddthat is the ultimite test21:58
Prikolchikuh oh21:58
Prikolchiki added it to /etc/modules/ so it should work... lemem restart and i brb21:58
liquidmetalhello22:01
vinnlHey liquidmetal22:02
liquidmetalI have a problem that i have been trying to fix for 2 days now22:02
liquidmetalI had windows xp media center edition 2005 on a sata drive which is now not working. I have a backup ata drive which has xubuntu on it22:03
liquidmetali have no cd drive on this computer, i know you can install windows straight from the hard drive from within windows (i have done it before)22:04
liquidmetali am a programmer and i need windows to test my programs on it. Is there any way i can install windows from within linux?22:04
vinnlI don't think so22:05
liquidmetali have tried partitioning and using wine, but the windows install program runs into a error with wine22:05
cody-somervilleYes22:05
Ben_Csvmware22:05
viddliquidmetal, yes....but only to a virtual image22:05
vinnlAh of course22:05
* cody-somerville nods at Ben_Cs 22:05
liquidmetalvmware?22:05
vinnl!vmware22:06
ubottuVMWare Player is in Ubuntu's !Multiverse repository (package "vmware-player", only for Feisty and Edgy), and http://www.easyvmx.com/easyvmx.shtml can create VMs for it. Instructions can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VMware - See also !virtualizers22:06
Ben_Csvirtual pc inside linux22:06
liquidmetalah, ok.22:06
liquidmetalnow if its a virtual pc, will i be able to save to it? or will my data be lost everytime i reboot?22:07
viddliquidmetal, you should be able to save to it22:07
liquidmetalok, one last question22:09
viddyes?22:10
liquidmetalis there any way i can have my comp boot to a executible? or have grub point to a file and run it?22:11
viddlike auto-launch an app?22:12
liquidmetalyeah22:12
viddthat is set by the OS, not the bootloader22:12
viddthe only thing your computer can boot is a bootloader....22:13
viddgrub is a bootloader22:13
viddwindows has their own bootloader22:13
Prikolchikhey, it all works great! I even make the led blink + off/on switch work22:14
liquidmetalok, thankx22:14
adakoshey folks. I just did an apt-get install xubuntu-desktop from my server -- how do i start the graphics now?22:14
Prikolchiksrry it took so long, i had to do a victory dance =D22:14
viddadakos, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart22:15
adakosthanks.. let me try22:15
adakosoh snap.22:15
adakosthanks vidd.22:15
viddPrikolchik, sweet...victory dance required to be recorded and posted to youtube!22:15
adakoshow do i get back to my beloved console though?22:15
adakosnevermind22:16
adakosi figured it out22:16
viddlol22:16
adakoshahaha thanks so much!22:16
viddadakos, you could propably just said start instead of restrat....but what is two letters between freinds!22:17
vidd=]22:17
Prikolchiki dont want to flood youtube with my phat guy dances22:18
vinnlEverybody loves phat guy dances22:18
Prikolchikcy all thanks forall help!22:18
vinnlBye22:18
viddi think im done helping for the day22:19
vinnl^.^22:19
vidd10 minutes till the end of my shift22:19
viddhey vinnl did thta guy ever gain access to his installer on the server machine?22:23
nubuntuvidd, i am here:     *           o PHP Extension "mcrypt" must be loaded           o PHP Extension "curl" must be loaded           o PHP Extension "gd" must be loaded22:24
viddhappy, happy....joy, joy22:24
viddso are you able to access on the machine its running from?22:25
viddso install curl, gd, and mcrypt22:26
viddmake sure you chose the correct version22:27
viddim out...have fun!22:29
cody-somervillehttp://cody.zapto.org/?p=4122:33
coreycan someone help me get my sound to work, I am running ubuntu but noone on that channel seems to be helping me22:39
coreycan someone help me22:42
dslHello?23:02
vinnlHey dsl23:02
dslI have a quick question23:02
dslOn the xubuntu website there is mention on the download page of minimum RAM23:03
dslWhat is minimum processor?23:03
dsl(I speak of version &#590;x)23:03
dsl(I speak of version 8)23:03
Ben_Cs300nhz23:03
Ben_Csbut 450 is recommended23:04
dslBen_Cs, in your experience would 500MHz PIII with 384 MB RAM provide a responsive system?23:05
Flannelhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements23:06
Ben_Csdsl: yes23:06
dslThanks23:07
Ben_Csdsl: but you should prefer apps that don't need much ram and cpu. ie: don't use k3b. use brasero instead , etc.23:08

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