[00:26] <whileimhere> hi there. What package do I need to install again to get the Network manager to remember my password?
[00:36] <joakim> Hi, I get "XIO:  fatal IO error 22 (Invalid argument) on X server" when running glxgears and no 3d games seem to work
[00:37] <joakim> glxgears do show right, but playonlinux says I dont have 3d enabled
[00:38] <joakim> Any Ideas? Direct rendering is :YES so how do I enable 3d?
[00:38] <joakim> xubuntu 8.04 nvidia restricted
[00:47] <joakim> need help with nvidia 3d acceleration in xubuntu
[00:54] <marenostrum> I am a user of Xubuntu and what's more a bug assignee. For the reason to see what's going on about the bugs, I'mtrying to find a way/address to download the latest very very unstable relase(nightly lets say) but from Web via ubuntu  > xubuntu etc. I couldn't do it. I'm devoting my "old" machine to this task. I'll install the nightlies. So, where are they?
[00:59] <marenostrum> Isn't here any Xubuntu developer. Come on, you are about to hire a very devoted tester!
[01:01] <Odd-rationale> marenostrum: cody-somerville just joined right after you... He should be in here somewhere... :)
[01:02] <marenostrum> i am waiting
[01:02] <marenostrum> thanks for voice
[01:03] <Odd-rationale> marenostrum: what you are trying to get the latest 4.6 ?
[01:04] <marenostrum> sorry? what is after 8.04... ibety or something like yhat.
[01:04] <marenostrum> 8.10
[01:04] <marenostrum> nightlies of 8.10
[01:04] <Odd-rationale> 8.10 intrepid ibex
[01:04] <marenostrum> yessssss
[01:05] <cody-somerville> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com
[01:05] <Odd-rationale> oh ok. i thought you meant xfce 4.6
[01:07] <marenostrum> lets check. thanks. but coddy-summerville will be still usefull if she/he is in charge of such things because I'm tired of talking about bugs AFTER the release, I want to be a tester.
[01:07]  * cody-somerville is right here.
[01:07] <marenostrum> hello
[01:08] <cody-somerville> Hello :-]
[01:08] <marenostrum> in short: iwant the nightlies...
[01:08] <marenostrum> i want to install them...
[01:08] <cody-somerville> To download the latest daily cd build, see http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu
[01:08] <marenostrum> and tell you about them.
[01:09] <Odd-rationale> hopefully, xfce 4.6 will be ready for 8.10. I'm glad they timed it nicely.. :D
[01:09] <marenostrum> i am sure talking about xubuntu
[01:10] <marenostrum> Iso....
[01:10] <marenostrum> if i download the nightlies....
[01:10]  * NCommander tackles cody
[01:10] <marenostrum> will the way be to assign a bug?
[01:11] <marenostrum> there are many bugs still not handled.
[01:11] <marenostrum> or is therea more direct way?
[01:11]  * cody-somerville flails.
[01:12] <marenostrum> sorry?
[01:12] <cody-somerville> marenostrum, What you'll want to do is make sure to report them against the correct package
[01:12] <cody-somerville> marenostrum, We generally don't assign a bug to someone unless they specifically are working on a fix
[01:12] <NCommander> cody-somerville, we're all packaged
[01:12] <NCommander> :-)
[01:13] <cody-somerville> marenostrum, If the package doesn't automatically subscribed xubuntu-team, subscribe xubuntu-team manually
[01:13] <cody-somerville> marenostrum, If the bug still doesn't get attention from Xubuntu folks, poke us in #xubuntu-devel or mail the xubuntu-devel mailing list.
[01:14] <marenostrum> i can showyou someproblems which are valid and not corrected for the last 2 or 3 releases. I want to test and let you know for 8.10.... forget about the past.
[01:15]  * cody-somerville nods.
[01:15] <cody-somerville> Splendid.
[01:17] <NCommander> cody-somerville, care to test it as soon as I copy all the binaries
[01:27] <marenostrum> cody-somerville, I am trying to think on your replies for about 10-15 minutes. Although tey ate not new ways, Ok, I'll do so. Thanks for your kind replies.
[01:27] <Odd-rationale> hey, thunar can restore from trash and nautilus can't?!
[01:29] <cody-somerville> Correct
[01:30] <marenostrum> good night
[05:10] <dpick> does anyone know a good cli instant messaging program?
[05:15] <Helloworld22> Which MD5 hashes can I trust? I found 2 different hashes on two different mirrors for the same file. When I downloaded the same file (8.4 x86 install cd) from two different mirrors, each file had a different hash
[05:16] <Helloworld22> Maybe just a download error
[05:16]  * Helloworld22 searches for gpg keys
[05:23] <itachi> are u the guys that hack with ubuntu?
[10:17] <nikolam> hi I am using xubuntu with tightvnc server over ssh connection
[10:17] <nikolam> whenever i try to start xfce panel, server crashes
[10:18] <nikolam> I managed to start xfdesktop and termilan and xfwm4
[10:18] <nikolam> terminal
[10:20] <Ben_Cs> hello
[10:22] <nikolam> hi
[10:28] <Ben_Cs> do you know how to set window border like in: http://www.xfce-look.org/content/show.php?content=80431&forumpage=1
[10:28] <Ben_Cs> ?
[12:27] <PsynoKhi0> heya, is there a comprehensive list of changes between gutsy and hardy for xubuntu? more specifically package versions
[12:37] <Myrtti> I don't like this new task list
[12:37] <Myrtti> well, "new"
[12:37] <Myrtti> no matter how tall the panel it is in is, the icons stay the same size
[12:49] <squirrelpimp> i reinstalled 8.04.01 on my notebook and now i get the nm-applet twice in the tray whenever i login. I tried deleting .cache/* without luck
[12:49] <squirrelpimp> where else could it get started?
[12:50] <squirrelpimp> so i can disable one copy of it
[12:50] <squirrelpimp> or could be started twice for me having the wired and the wireless card?
[12:52] <PsynoKhi0> do you have different output if you right click on the icons and check Information?
[12:52] <PsynoKhi0> outputs*
[12:54] <squirrelpimp> i found it
[12:54] <squirrelpimp> it happend to sneak into autostarted apps twice... which were configured from the gui
[12:54] <PsynoKhi0> :)
[12:54] <squirrelpimp> i suck at gui-operations
[12:54] <squirrelpimp> :)
[12:54] <squirrelpimp> except browsing
[16:38] <nubuntu> i just downloaded LAMPserver, and now trying to download magentocommerce from page http://www.magentocommerce.com/download/noregister , could someone help me thru this?
[16:39] <ThinkMinus> Hello everyone
[16:41] <ThinkMinus> I am going to start installing Xubuntu in 1 hour and I expect to run internet on it.......and i know that it will need a lot of tweaking..........
[16:41] <ThinkMinus> any help here?'
[16:44] <nubuntu> ThinkMinus: i haven't had a lot of problems with internet on x, what probs do you anticipate?
[16:46] <ThinkMinus> I ran xubuntu live cd and tried running internet.....but ended with failure
[16:46] <nubuntu> i just downloaded LAMPserver, and now trying to download magentocommerce from page http://www.magentocommerce.com/download/noregister , could someone help me thru this?
[16:46] <ThinkMinus> also I'm a newbie to linux
[16:48] <nubuntu> i've installed on a fair amount of boxes and usually no prob with internet configs
[16:48] <nubuntu> at any rate, theres always ppl here to help
[16:48] <nubuntu> just like the government
[16:49] <nubuntu> i'm with the government, and i'm here to help ... kind of thing :)
[16:50] <ThinkMinus> I will try dual booting X wid windows xp just to connect to internet else I will format xp partition:)
[16:51] <ThinkMinus> OK....i am now going to install X and see if everything goes fine
[16:51] <ThinkMinus> Thanks nubuntu........
[16:51] <ThinkMinus> and goodbye
[16:58] <nubuntu> k, you don't have another machine to stay connected during the install?
[16:58] <nubuntu> gotta go, brb
[17:08] <nubuntu> i just downloaded LAMPserver, and now trying to download magentocommerce from page http://www.magentocommerce.com/download/noregister , could someone help me thru this?
[17:09] <nubuntu> need help to know which format to download and then install
[17:17] <nubuntu> three formats available: zip, tar.gz, and tar.bz2
[17:17] <Grrai> I run xubuntu gutsy, have all repos enabled but can't find package module-assistant. any suggestions?
[17:18] <vinnl> nubuntu, it shouldn't matter I suppose
[17:18] <vinnl> nubuntu, they are just different formats for collections of files and Xubuntu can open them all
[17:18] <vinnl> (I haven't worked with Magentocommerce though)
[17:19] <vinnl> Grrai, you can download the package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/gutsy/module-assistant
[17:19] <Grrai> vinnl: thanksalot
[17:20] <nubuntu> vinnl, so ones not easier than another?
[17:20] <vinnl> nubuntu, the tar.bz2 is the smallest and thus quickest to download ;-)
[17:21] <vinnl> nubuntu, wait, I'll check out the page
[17:21] <nubuntu> ya, i'm more worried about how to extract it after the download
[17:21] <vinnl> nubuntu, ah, no, it doesn't matter indeed
[17:21] <vinnl> nubuntu, just double-click, or right-click and select "Extract to"
[17:22] <nubuntu> vinnl, so for purposes of extracting/executing?
[17:22] <nubuntu> vinnl, where will i extract to?
[17:22] <nubuntu> desktop?
[17:23] <vinnl> nubuntu, yeah, I don't know how long you'll need those files, if you just need them temporarily you can also download them to /tmp
[17:24] <nubuntu> vinnl, well i want to have it installed on the machine, do i just delete them after the extraction, or do they need to stay on the desktop?
[17:24] <vinnl> Let me see...
[17:25] <vinnl> nubuntu, you want to install it on your local machine?
[17:26] <nubuntu> yes, want to play around with it before i go to hosting
[17:26] <vinnl> nubuntu, then you'll want to extract it to /var/www
[17:26] <nubuntu> ok, lemme try
[17:27] <vinnl> That's probably not going to work right away
[17:27] <vinnl> nubuntu, can you open a terminal window?
[17:28] <nubuntu> vinnl, ya i can, should i do that before i extract to /var/www?  was just about to press the red button
[17:28] <vinnl> nubuntu, no, you just need to create a folder there and make sure you can extract the files there :)
[17:29] <nubuntu> uhhhh, ok ... how do i create the folder :)  ?
[17:29] <vinnl> nubuntu, have you opened a terminal?
[17:31] <nubuntu> on the extract box it has boxes checked that say 're-create folders' and another says 'overwrite existing files'
[17:31] <nubuntu> ya, i have terminal open also
[17:32] <vinnl> OK, type "sudo mkdir /var/www/magento"
[17:33] <nubuntu> k, should i close the 'extract' box?
[17:33] <vinnl> Then type "sudo chmod -R 777 /var/www/magento"
[17:33] <vinnl> No
[17:34] <nubuntu> k, hold on
[17:34] <vinnl> After you've entered those commands (which create the directory /var/www/magento and sets write permissions for everybody) you can extract the archive to /tmp, make sure re-create folders is checked
[17:36] <nubuntu> hmmmm ....ok, so i'm no longer extracting to /var/www ?
[17:36] <vinnl> No :)
[17:37] <vinnl> Well, in a minute, sort of :P
[17:37] <nubuntu> so, i should close the extract box, and reopen it and extract to /tmp ?
[17:38] <vinnl> Yep, that'll do :)
[17:39]  * nubuntu confused
[17:39] <vinnl> ?
[17:39] <nubuntu> ok, lemme try
[17:40] <nubuntu> k, i guess it is extracting to tmp ... i hope so
[17:40] <vinnl> Is there a dialog box with a throbber?
[17:41] <nubuntu> uhhhh, what's a throbber?  is that appropriate language for the room :)
[17:41] <vinnl> :P
[17:41] <vinnl> A progress bar
[17:41] <nubuntu> sry.   couldn't resist
[17:41] <vinnl> Hehe
[17:42] <nubuntu> ya, there was a progress bar, but i think its done and gone...
[17:42] <nubuntu> ya, its gone
[17:42] <vinnl> OK, then if you look at /tmp, there should be a magento folder, right?
[17:43] <nubuntu> is terminal sposed to be open still?
[17:43] <nubuntu> lemme go look in filesys
[17:43] <vinnl> Yeah, I forgot something just now so keep it open a bit
[17:44] <nubuntu> yes, there is a magento in /tmp
[17:44] <vinnl> Great, copy the contents of that directory to /var/www/magento
[17:44] <nubuntu> uhhhhh, ok .... how :P ?
[17:45] <vinnl> Press Ctrl+A to select all, then Ctrl+C to copy, then move to /var/www/magento and press Ctrl+V to paste
[17:45] <nubuntu> k, so first i click on the magento file ?
[17:46] <vinnl> Oh sorry, you first move to /tmp/magento
[17:46] <vinnl> Then do the above
[17:47] <nubuntu> omg, lemme see if i can
[17:48] <vinnl> I believe in you ;-)
[17:48] <vinnl> (We have to hurry though, dinner's ready)
[17:49] <nubuntu> ok, its copying to var www mag
[17:49] <nubuntu> k,
[17:49] <vinnl> Done?
[17:49] <nubuntu> ya, seems to be
[17:50] <vinnl> Cool, then you run "sudo chmod -R 777 /var/www/magento" in the terminal window again
[17:51] <vinnl> After that you should be able to visit localhost/magento in a browser and start the installation
[17:51] <nubuntu> k, done
[17:51] <vinnl> I really gotta go now, though
[17:51] <vinnl> Good luck :)
[17:51] <nubuntu> k, thx
[17:51] <nubuntu> :)
[17:52] <vinnl> Bye :)
[17:53] <nubuntu> k, bye
[17:53] <nubuntu> i report later
[18:00] <nubuntu> uhhh, vinnl just helped me download magento, and we placed it into var www magento, but when i point my browser to localhost/magento , i get a box axing me to to  'open with' (browse), or 'save file', but the file is already saved isn't it???
[18:01] <nubuntu> do i have to spell out more than localhost/magento ???
[18:10] <nubuntu> i had someone in xubuntu room help me load magento into a file called var/www/magento , but he/she had to go to dinner on way out said i had to put 'localhost/magento' into a browser to start install process, but when i put that in i get a box with choice to 'open with' or save ... can anyone help me?
[18:34] <vinnl> nubuntu, and? Did it work? :)
[18:37] <nubuntu> hi vinn1, having trouble
[18:37] <nubuntu> nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ ls index.html  magento nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ sudo chmod 777 -R /magento chmod: cannot access `/magento': No such file or directory nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$
[18:38] <vinnl> nubuntu, try "sudo chmod 777 -R ./magento" :)
[18:38] <japherwocky> what do I use to check balance settings for my audio?
[18:39] <nubuntu> when i entered 'localhost/magento' got a box to 'open with' or save
[18:39] <vinnl> japherwocky, I know nothing about audio, but do you mean xfce4-mixer?
[18:39] <vinnl> nubuntu, and what do you get if you do ls in /var/www/magento?
[18:40] <japherwocky> the xfce4-mixer doesn't seem to have a left/right balance adjuster
[18:40] <steven_> hello
[18:41] <nubuntu> don't know here is what the term looks like right now: nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ ls index.html  magento nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ sudo chmod 777 -R /magento chmod: cannot access `/magento': No such file or directory nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ sudo chmod 777 -R ./magento nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$
[18:41] <vinnl> Hey steven_
[18:41] <steven_> hye
[18:41] <s_Even> how are you vinnl
[18:42] <nubuntu> vinn1, that last time it din't say no such file
[18:43] <s_Even> hello vidd
[18:43] <nubuntu> vinnl: could it be that 'extra'  dot . in there?
[18:43] <vidd> hell s_Even
[18:43] <vinnl> I'm fine s_Even  :)
[18:43] <vinnl> nubuntu, yeah
[18:43] <vidd> *hello
[18:44] <vinnl> That dot says "look in the current folder"
[18:44] <nubuntu> vinn1, still can't get anything in the browser
[18:45] <vidd> my issue is that the live cd of 8.04.1 is locking up at "detecting file systems"
[18:46] <vidd> 4.9GB hd, 256MB ram
[18:46] <s_Even> hmm....
[18:46] <s_Even> did you try a 2nd time?
[18:46] <s_Even> sometimes live-CD really s*cks
[18:46] <vidd> im in the middle of my 6th time
[18:46] <vinnl> nubuntu, that sounds like a Magento issue, I'd recommend you to look at their support
[18:46] <vidd> im doing maunual disk partition now
[18:47] <nubuntu> k, thx
[18:47] <s_Even> hmm...
[18:47] <s_Even> are you making a dual boot?
[18:47] <vidd> wasnt the intention
[18:47] <s_Even> and now windows 's on it?
[18:48] <vidd> nothing loads anymore
[18:48] <vidd> the strange thing is, when i just went into the manual,
[18:49] <vidd> partition, it said the bulk of the drive wqs ntfs...not ext3
[18:49] <s_Even> i'm sorry, but i really don't know how to help you
[18:49] <vidd> i just set it to ext3....see what happens
[18:50] <vidd> well....i am dl'ing the alt cd
[18:50] <vidd> heh....i should have done that 3 hours ago!
[18:50] <s_Even> :p
[18:50] <s_Even> true
[18:51] <s_Even> you can also order an official disk
[18:51] <s_Even> those also work correctly
[18:51] <vidd> changing the file system to ext3 instad of leaving it ntfs solved it
[18:51] <vidd> there is no "official" disk for xubuntu to order
[18:52] <vidd> only ubuntu and kubuntu, and edubuntu
[18:53] <s_Even> damned, true
[18:53] <s_Even> forgotten :$
[18:53] <vidd> we're to "new age" for them =]
[18:53] <s_Even> :p
[18:53] <s_Even> but i should go, i'm sorry
[19:08] <vidd> nubuntu, still having your issue?
[19:09] <nubuntu> yes, yes,vidd
[19:09] <nubuntu> cannot get app running
[19:09] <vidd> i came in the room late...can you restate the issue for me?
[19:10] <nubuntu> i had someone in xubuntu room help me load magento into a file called var/www/magento , but he/she had to go to dinner on way out said i had to put 'localhost/magento' into a browser to start install process, but when i put that in i get a box with choice to 'open with' or save ... can anyone help me?
[19:10] <nubuntu> vidd, so really haven't progressed from here
[19:10] <vidd> nubuntu, do you have a web server installed? like apache2?
[19:11] <vinnl> vidd, yes
[19:11] <vinnl> vidd, otherwise he'd get a directory listing
[19:11] <vinnl> (Right?)
[19:11] <nubuntu> i am also plugged into the magento room, but nobody there really able to help me either ... yes, well, i think i do, i followed install in community docs for lamp server
[19:11] <vinnl> Yep
[19:12] <vinnl> nubuntu, what do you get if you visit just "localhost"?
[19:12] <vidd> just for S&G...run sudo apt-get apache2
[19:12] <zoredache> does magento need php or something?
[19:13] <nubuntu> vinn1, din't try that, lemme go see
[19:14] <vidd> nubuntu, what FILE is it asking you to download?
[19:14] <vinnl> You should get "It works!"
[19:14] <Prikolchik> hi everyone! Could someone please help me configure Atheros AR5700EG wireless card?
[19:14] <nubuntu> get a page that says: IT Works!  what's that mean?
[19:14] <vidd> nubuntu, that means your apache is configured correctly
[19:14] <vinnl> nubuntu, that your webserver works properly :)
[19:15] <vidd> try this nubuntu
[19:15] <nubuntu> zoredache, i think it does need php, but isn't that part of the server?
[19:15] <zoredache> no... you need to install it
[19:15] <vidd> sudo chown 33:33 -Rf /var/www/magento
[19:15] <nubuntu> vidd, i is all ears
[19:16] <zoredache> well you may need to install it... it kinda depends on what you have done so far... anyway try 'sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5'
[19:16] <zoredache> you'll probably need to restart apache after php is installed
[19:16] <vidd> then follow it up with sudo chmod -Rf 777 /var/www/magento
 i just downloaded LAMPserver, and now trying to download magentocommerce from page http://www.magentocommerce.com/download/noregister , could someone help me thru this?
[19:17] <vinnl> So PHP is supposed to be installed
[19:19] <nubuntu> nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ sudo chown 33:33 -Rf /var/www/magento nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$
[19:19] <vidd> nubuntu, now sudo chmod -Rf 777 /var/www/magento
[19:19] <Prikolchik> hi everyone! Could someone please help me configure Atheros AR5700EG wireless card?
[19:19] <nubuntu> so doesn't that mean that php was already in?
[19:20] <vidd> nubuntu, yes
[19:20] <vidd> Prikolchik, what does lspci tell you the chipset for thast card is?
[19:20] <nubuntu> k, i did   sudo chmod -Rf 777 /var/www/magento   just comes back to command prompt
[19:21] <Prikolchik> 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter (rev 01)
[19:21] <vidd> nubuntu, now go to the page http://localhost/magento
[19:21] <nubuntu> k, lemme try
[19:22] <vidd> Prikolchik, you have mad wifi installed?
[19:23] <nubuntu> anybody remember the imagebin address offhand?  to show you screenshot
[19:24] <vidd> Prikolchik, you have mad wifi installed?
[19:24] <vinnl> nubuntu, imageshack.us?
[19:27] <Prikolchik1> vidd, srry i got disconnected. did u say anything?
[19:27] <vidd> nubuntu, your magento working?
[19:27] <vidd> Prikolchik, you have mad wifi installed?
[19:27] <Prikolchik1> i have tried that but it seems to be using ath5k_pci instead of ath_pci (madwifi) driver
[19:28] <Prikolchik1> if i install madwifi i get same result as i have now
[19:28] <vidd> and that is?
[19:28] <Prikolchik1> doesnt see any networks
[19:28] <nubuntu> vidd, no .... http://imagebin.org/24866
[19:29] <Prikolchik1> vidd, when asked to can for networks it doesnt find any
[19:29] <Prikolchik1> vidd, even if i configure manual connect it fails to connect
[19:29] <vidd> is there a stupid power button for your wifi card?
[19:30] <Prikolchik1> there is. but it seems me be on by default (it is software controlled, im on Aspire One)
[19:30] <vidd> Prikolchik1, push the power button
[19:30] <vidd> do you connect now?
[19:30] <Prikolchik1> 1 sec
[19:31] <vinnl> nubuntu, what if you go to localhost/magento/index.php?
[19:31] <nubuntu> lemme try
[19:31] <vidd> nubuntu, please pastebin ls -al for the directory /var/www/magento
[19:31] <Prikolchik1> vidd, still same. No scan results. Doesnt see any networks
[19:32] <nubuntu> vidd, what is complete command?
[19:32] <Prikolchik1> also lshw says:
[19:32] <Prikolchik1>   *-network
[19:32] <Prikolchik1>        description: Wireless interface
[19:32] <Prikolchik1>        product: AR242x 802.11abg Wireless PCI Express Adapter
[19:32] <Prikolchik1> so it mustbe on
[19:32] <vidd> what does /etc/network/interfaces list it as? (or pastebin /etc/network/interfaces
[19:33] <vidd> nubuntu, cd /var/www/magento
[19:33] <vidd> then ls -al
[19:33] <nubuntu> k, lemme try ... vinn1, no that index.php din't work either
[19:34] <vinnl> OK, too bad
[19:34] <Prikolchik1> vidd, that is what that file says: auto lo [[new line here]] iface lo inet loopback
[19:35] <nubuntu> shoot, whats the dang pastebin address agin?
[19:35] <vidd> so network interfaces does not show your eth0 or your wifi card
[19:35] <vidd> !pastebin
[19:37] <vidd> do you have an icon for "manual network configuation"?
[19:37] <Prikolchik1> vidd, http://paste.ubuntu.com/40226/
[19:38] <Prikolchik1> vidd, i have network manager? is that what u ask?
[19:38] <vidd> yes
[19:39] <Prikolchik1> well, if i enter a network SSID "Dlink1" that i know is broadcasting and it has no encryption, it fails to connect
[19:39] <vidd> set a static IP
[19:39] <nubuntu> http://imagebin.org/24867
[19:40] <vidd> preferably outside the DHCP range of the network you are connecting to
[19:40] <nubuntu> vidd, and vinn1, http://imagebin.org/24867
[19:41] <vinnl> nubuntu, ah
[19:41] <vinnl> nubuntu, try visiting localhost/magento/install.php
[19:41] <vidd> vinnl, you type too fast =]
[19:41] <nubuntu> k, lemme try
[19:41] <vinnl> vidd, ^.^
[19:41] <Prikolchik1> vidd, same result. dosnt connect
[19:41] <nubuntu> ??? :P
[19:42] <vinnl> nubuntu, try visiting that in your browser
[19:42] <vidd> Prikolchik1, do you have physical access to this router your trying to access?
[19:42] <Prikolchik1> like 192.168.0.1?
[19:43] <vidd> can you lay hands on the device you are attempting to access?
[19:44] <Prikolchik1> vidd, what do u mean by that?
[19:44] <vidd> ????
[19:44] <vidd> can you TOUCH it
[19:44] <Prikolchik1> vidd, yup
[19:44] <vidd> can you pick it up and move it across the room?
[19:44] <nubuntu> i din't know this was a religious channel .. isn't laying hands a little desperate??? :)
[19:44] <vidd> that is physical access
[19:44] <nubuntu> http://imagebin.org/24869
[19:44] <vidd> nubuntu, lol
[19:45] <vidd> Prikolchik1, can you
[19:45] <Prikolchik1> vidd, ok =P. yes i have physical access. And i've also added the MAC address to the whitelist\
[19:45] <Prikolchik1> i can connect to router with windows no problem (im dual boot) but fail to in Xubuntu
[19:45] <vinnl> OK now that's just annoying
[19:46] <nubuntu> tell me about it
[19:46] <vidd> nubuntu, ive had this issue......
[19:46] <vidd> restart apache
[19:47] <vinnl> Hmm, nubuntu, I'm not sure how outdated this is but some of the things listed at http://www.magentocommerce.com/wiki/general/installing-magento-on-slicehost-with-ubuntu might help if vidd runs out of useful advice ;-)
[19:47] <vidd> sudo /etc/ini.d/apache2 restart
[19:47] <vinnl> *init.d
[19:47] <nubuntu> uhhhhh, ok .....u type too fast
[19:47] <vinnl> sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[19:48]  * vidd needs a new keyboard
[19:48] <vidd> Prikolchik1, im drawing a blank now....
[19:48] <nubuntu> restarting webserver apache2
[19:48] <nubuntu> command prompt
[19:49] <vidd> try access again
[19:49] <vidd> Prikolchik1, ive never had that card myself
[19:49]  * nubuntu has a garage full of keyboards; wonders where vidd be
[19:50] <vidd> its eather that or i need to put my fingers on a diet!
[19:50] <Prikolchik1> vidd, well, i've had my friend's same laptop with this card and i somehow made the wireless work for him. But i failed to recreate thesuccess on my laptop
[19:50]  * nubuntu needs a new piano
[19:52] <Prikolchik1> vidd, i tried ndiswrapper and windows drivers, but it just crashes Network Manager and doesnt help... also I've read somewhere that ath5k_pci (that is the driver that is currently active for wireless) automatically disables ath_pci (madwifi) if it is installed
[19:52] <Prikolchik1> vidd, so to get madwifi to work it seems like i need to remove ath5k driver... and how do i do this?
[19:52] <Prikolchik1> vidd, it comes in some sort of a package, i believe
[19:53] <vidd> add it to your blacklist
[19:53] <hajhouse> i would like to use dnsmasq to cache dns requests on my notebook, which moves around to different networks and so uses different automatically configured dns servers at different times (/etc/resolv.conf is updated by dhclient i would assume). i think the logical way to do this is to configure dhclient to write the configured dns server addresses to some other file than /etc/resolv.conf, then set /etc/resolv.conf to localhost, and co
[19:53] <nubuntu> so after apache restart, ive tried in the browser 'localhost', and localhost/magento ... nothin doin
[19:53] <Prikolchik1> i've tried that before with no luck
[19:54] <vidd> have you REMOVED it from the blacklist?
[19:54] <nubuntu> gotta run out 4 mins ... brb
[19:55] <Prikolchik1> i have installed madwifi, didnt work. Added ath5k to blacklist, desnt work, then i removed it from blacklist.
[19:55] <vidd> Prikolchik1, i need to go smoke now...bb in a bit
[19:55] <Prikolchik1> ok
[19:55] <Prikolchik1> i'll try again for now
[19:55] <Prikolchik1> brb in 5mins
[20:00] <Prikolchik> does anybody know if there is any way i can reset the configuration of the wireless card?
[20:00] <Prikolchik> even if i add drivers to the blacklist it still recognizes it at AR270x, whereas it is AR5007EG
[20:04] <nubuntu> vidd, and vinn1, i is baaaaaAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaccccccccccccck
[20:04] <vinnl> wb :)
[20:06] <nubuntu> any suggestions?
[20:07] <vinnl> nothin doin, does that mean that it's still trying to download the file?
[20:07] <nubuntu> well, the file is already downloaded right?
[20:08] <nubuntu> i get the box offering to open with or save file, but the file is aready saved
[20:08] <vidd> yes...but its asking ya to download it
[20:08] <vidd> im thinking its an apache config issue'
[20:08] <nubuntu> so am i sposed to 'save file' again??
[20:09] <nubuntu> god, i am going crosseyed
[20:09] <vinnl> nubuntu, no
[20:10] <nubuntu> over the last year i have convinced many friends to switch to linux.  some of them still speak to me.
[20:10] <vinnl> nubuntu, the file you have locally is "on the webserver", when you visit a webbrowser you're asked to download it to the visiting client, which in this case (since you're using localhost) happens to be the same as the webserver
[20:10] <vidd> nubuntu, it is not a linux issue...it is an apache issue
[20:10] <vinnl> vidd, or a Magento issue I suppose
[20:11] <vidd> no....apache does not know how to properly serve that php file
[20:11] <nubuntu> vinn1, wait a minute; so you mean i AM sposed to 'download' it?
[20:11] <vidd> nubuntu, no
[20:11] <vinnl> nubuntu, no
[20:11]  * nubuntu is confused
[20:11] <vinnl> nubuntu, what you're seeing is what a visitor of your website would see
[20:12] <vinnl> If it were on a public server
[20:12] <nubuntu> over the last year i have convinced many friends to switch to linux. some of them still speak to me.  <---- was just a joke
[20:13] <vinnl> ^.^
[20:13] <nubuntu> ahhhhh, in other words, they would prolly not hang around long ...
[20:13] <nubuntu> :(
[20:13] <vinnl> "Linux" is a broad term ;-)
[20:14] <nubuntu> yup
[20:16] <vidd> nubuntu, basically, you need to get your web server to properly display php
[20:16] <nubuntu> apparently, from what i am reading, i still havent really 'installed' magento; just downloaded it to a homefile huh...
[20:16] <vidd> that is correct
[20:17] <nubuntu> aaaaarrrrrrrrgggggghhhhh
[20:17] <nubuntu> you guys have been so patient, i appreciate it, sorry to be such the pain
[20:17] <vinnl> nubuntu, can you execute the following command in a terminal:
[20:17] <vinnl> echo "<?php echo \"Yay\";" > /var/www/magento/t.php
[20:17] <vidd> id be interested in seeing your /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file
[20:18] <vinnl> nubuntu, and then visit localhost/magento/t.php
[20:19] <nubuntu> no output from:  echo "<?php echo \"Yay\";" > /var/www/magento/t.php
[20:19] <vinnl> nubuntu, that's correct
[20:19] <vinnl> nubuntu, but if you visit localhost/magento/t.php?
[20:19] <vinnl> (In your browser)
[20:20] <nubuntu> get 'Yay' on blank page
[20:20] <vinnl> OK, so PHP is working correctly and can be served
[20:20] <vinnl> (You can delete /var/www/magento/t.php now)
[20:21] <nubuntu> ??? what u mean, delete???
[20:21] <vidd> vinnl, nice work.....(let me write that trick down....)
[20:21] <vinnl> nubuntu, that command before created the file /var/www/magento/t.php to test
[20:21] <vidd> nubuntu, he had you create a file named t.php
[20:22] <vinnl> vidd, hehe, first time ever I used that ;-)
[20:22] <nubuntu> ummmm, ok ... so i go to /var/www/ .... and just delete?
[20:22] <vidd> this tested that your web server DOES know how to properly display
[20:23] <vinnl> nubuntu, you have to go to /var/www/magento and delete the file t.php
[20:23] <vinnl> (Check the contents of that file if you like)
[20:23] <vidd> sudo rm /var/www/magento/t.php
[20:23] <vinnl> (And then read the command above)
[20:23] <Prikolchik> oes anybody know if there is any way i can reset the configuration of the wireless card? so it uses the new drivers and recognizes it as right type or something?
[20:23] <vinnl> That'll do too :)
[20:23] <vinnl> Prikolchik, how have you configured it?
[20:24] <nubuntu> k, so : >	sudo rm /var/www/magento/t.php  will do the trick then?
[20:24] <vinnl> nubuntu, sudo isn't needed, but yes :)
[20:25] <Prikolchik> vinnl, by configuration i mean that xubuntu recognizes it as the wrong card. it says it is AR242x, but it is AR5700EG
[20:25] <vinnl> Prikolchik, oh, sorry, wouldn't know then :(
[20:25] <nubuntu> k, done
[20:25] <vinnl> Prikolchik, though it sounds like something people in #ubuntu will know
[20:25] <Prikolchik> vinnl, im there too atm, and they dont
[20:26] <vinnl> OK, now we just wait for vidd to think of a clever solution because I'm out of options nubuntu :(
[20:26] <vinnl> Prikolchik, :(
[20:26] <nubuntu> k, i was out long time now
[20:26]  * vidd is on the phone with a customer
[20:26] <vinnl> Say hi to him :P
[20:27] <nubuntu> that reminds me, i gotta get an email off to a client.  later.
[20:29] <nubuntu> i mean that i'll email him later.  always have to make sure you speak precisely on these channels, huh
[20:30] <nubuntu> gonna run throw some frozen drumsticks in a pot to sweat a while
[20:44] <vidd> ok....im back
[20:44] <vidd> nubuntu, you back?
[20:45] <nubuntu> yup.
[20:45] <vidd> try this :
[20:46] <nubuntu> did you have an epiphany?  whats an epiphany?  is it cathartic?
[20:46] <vidd> sudo chmod -Rf 755 /var/www/magento
[20:46] <vidd> cross your fingers, pray....=]
[20:47] <vidd> epiphany is a web browser i think
[20:47] <nubuntu> i will do anything to get obama elected
[20:48] <vinnl> That's #xubuntu-offtopic talk :)
[20:48] <nubuntu>   including sudo chmod -Rf 755 /var/www/magento   if i have to ... now what
[20:48] <vidd> saying things like that to die-hard-republicans trying to help you ia a BAD thing!
[20:48] <vinnl> xD
[20:48] <nubuntu> omg.
[20:48] <nubuntu> i sorry :)
[20:49] <vidd> now that you changed permissions, try to run the install.php file again
[20:50] <nubuntu> ummmm, ... ok. lemme try (and find it)
[20:50] <vidd> nubuntu, dont worry...im not going to walk you thru formating your hard drive =]
[20:51] <vinnl> xD
[20:51] <nubuntu> when you say 'run' the install.php , do you mean goto browser localhost/magento/install.php ?
[20:52] <vinnl> Yep
[20:52] <vidd> yes
[20:52] <vidd> survey says?
[20:53] <Flannel> don't chmod 755.... chmod +rX
[20:54] <vidd> Flannel, we are working on things that are already 777
[20:54] <nubuntu> no dice.
[20:54] <Flannel> vidd: They shouldn't be 777 to begin wih, but alright.  I agree that 755 is better than 777.
[20:54] <vinnl> Flannel, that's what the Magento documentation said
[20:55] <vidd> Flannel, any input on how to make this guy's apache properly display php pages?
[20:55] <nubuntu> i'm sure its WAY over my head
[20:55] <vinnl> Specifically Magento
[20:55] <Flannel> vidd: That documentation is horrible then.
[20:55] <Flannel> vinnl: Do you have libapache2-mod-php5 installed?
[20:55] <vinnl> Flannel, I do, but it's nubuntu's problem ;-)
[20:55] <vidd> Flannel, nubuntu is the one in need
[20:55] <vinnl> And he has, I believe
[20:56] <vidd> hehe
[20:56] <nubuntu> i believe that's the one that installed ...
 nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ sudo chown 33:33 -Rf /var/www/magento nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$ sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done libapache2-mod-php5 is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www$
[20:56] <vinnl> So yes
[20:56] <vidd> so....
[20:56] <nubuntu> how do i verify ... nvr mind ... u type too fast
[20:58] <Flannel> nubuntu: Alright, and `ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled | grep php` returns two files, right?
[21:01] <nubuntu> sry, mom called. i don't unnrstand the question ...
[21:01] <vidd> type ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled | grep php
[21:02] <vidd> it should return 2 files....yes or no?
[21:02] <nubuntu> do you mean for me to :   ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled | grep php   into the term?
[21:02] <vinnl> Yep
[21:02] <vinnl> Should look like this:
[21:02] <vinnl> $ ls -l /etc/apache2/mods-enabled | grep php
[21:02] <vinnl> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2008-06-19 12:45 php5.conf -> ../mods-available/php5.conf
[21:02] <vinnl> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2008-06-19 12:45 php5.load -> ../mods-available/php5.load
[21:03] <nubuntu> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2008-08-24 11:27 php5.conf -> ../mods-available/php5.conf
[21:03] <nubuntu> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 27 2008-08-24 11:27 php5.load -> ../mods-available/php5.load
[21:03] <nubuntu> nubuntu@ubuntu:/var/www/magento$
[21:04] <nubuntu> ok, so yes, two files
[21:04] <vidd> nubuntu, is this box your working on world facing?
[21:05] <nubuntu> you mean live?? no.
[21:05] <vidd> no...not live...world facuing
[21:05] <vidd> can you access it from outside your network?
[21:05] <nubuntu> hmmmm ...not that i know of, do you want to access it?
[21:06] <nubuntu> i have no prob with that.
[21:06] <vidd> no...i wasnt YOU to access it
[21:06] <vidd> the issue may be that you are too close to the app
[21:06] <nubuntu> ??? i don't unnrstand ???
[21:07] <vidd> you have another machine on your network?
[21:07] <nubuntu> theres another computer in the room, if thats what you mean?
[21:08] <nubuntu> but they're not really 'networkd', just on the same router
[21:10] <nubuntu> i'm guessing that's *not* what u meant
[21:11] <vidd> on that other machine ... go to [server ip address]/magento/install.php
[21:11] <vidd> nubuntu, actually, that was EXACTLY what i meant
[21:12] <nubuntu> wait, so i need to determine my server ip?
[21:12] <nubuntu> like, numerically?
[21:12] <vidd> yes
[21:12] <vidd> usually something like 192.168.1.101
[21:13] <vidd> in a terminal type ifconfig
[21:13] <vidd> it would be the inet address
[21:14] <nubuntu> some website just told me its 76.109.0.83
[21:14] <Ben_Cs> good evening
[21:14] <nubuntu> does that sound right
[21:14] <vidd> nubuntu, that is your world-facing ip address
[21:15] <nubuntu> so that's the one?
[21:15] <vidd> no...your INTERNAL ip address
[21:16] <vidd> ifconfig
[21:16] <vidd> that will tell you
[21:17] <nubuntu> k, 192.168.0.107/magento/install.php    <---- like that, in the other machine?
[21:17] <vidd> yes
[21:18] <vidd> do you get the same "download" message?
[21:18] <nubuntu> k, should i open the chat from there?
[21:18] <vidd> no need
[21:18] <nubuntu> ok, gimme couple mins not sure if she left it on
[21:19] <vidd> unless you are going to ssh into that machine
[21:19] <vidd> hehe
[21:24] <nubuntu> OHHHHHH  MYYYYY   GOOOOOOOD.  Welcome to Magento's Installation Wizard ... So I did, I did taw a puddy tat!
[21:24] <vinnl> \0/
[21:25] <vidd> told ya you were too close to it
[21:25] <nubuntu> How come it's showing up on THAT machine??
[21:25] <vidd> cuzz its a different machine
[21:25] <vidd> use the ip and not localhost on yours
[21:26] <nubuntu> what do u mean too close to it???  so you mean input the same way on this one now?
[21:26] <vidd> yes
[21:26] <nubuntu> so does that mean that all 3000 people in the room can now hack into my computer????
[21:27] <nubuntu> lol
[21:27] <nubuntu> or not lol :(
[21:27] <LoCaLMaChIn1> anyone know why the ubuntu channel screwed up?
[21:27] <nubuntu> what about the state secrets?
[21:28] <nubuntu> im pluggd into ubuntu, seems to be working fine
[21:29] <LoCaLMaChIn1> hmmm everytime I try to switch it freezes big time
[21:31] <nubuntu> vidd, and vinn1 ... question ... so if i downloaded the lampserver to that other machine i could access from either one??
[21:31] <vinnl> nubuntu, they'd be different installations
[21:32] <vinnl> nubuntu, btw, the last letter of my name is an "l" ;-) (You can also type "vin" then press <tab> :)
[21:32] <nubuntu> so as i save pages onto this machine, they would not be accessible on that one?
[21:33] <vinnl> Save pages?
[21:33] <vidd> nubuntu, on the acual machine, go to  192.168.0.107/magento/install.php
[21:33] <nubuntu> then how come the install wizard shows up there?
[21:33] <vidd> instead of  localhost/magento/install.php
[21:33] <nubuntu> ya, i am on it
[21:34] <nubuntu> haven't started anything with it yet cuz i'm still dumbfounded.  dumb, anyways.
[21:34] <Ben_Cs> btw guys why use nubuntu and not backtrack?
[21:34] <LoCaLMaChIn1> anyone else having problems with the Ubuntu channel
[21:35] <vidd> Ben_Cs, what do you mean?
[21:35] <Ben_Cs> vidd: you're discussing nubuntu scripts no?
[21:36] <vidd> no, we are talking to the user nubuntu
[21:36] <Ben_Cs> vidd: oh i see :)
[21:36] <nubuntu> vidd, and vinnl, can i access the page from anywhere?  do i need to password protect it?
[21:37] <nubuntu> i mean like, i'm my own live server now?
[21:37] <LoCaLMaChIn1> is glitsj6 here or has anyone seen him
[21:37] <nubuntu> Ben_Cs: what are nubuntu scripts?
[21:38] <vidd> as long as you are not forwarding http traffic via your router to that specific machine, you should be good
[21:39] <Ben_Cs> nubuntu: scripts in "nubuntu" linux for phishing info and hacking +security
[21:39] <nubuntu> guys  gonna run have a smoke (and check on the drumsticks) don't leave (unless you gotta :)
[21:40] <vinnl> Ben_Cs, ah, I've actually heard of that :)
[21:40] <vinnl> Wasn't Backtrack nubuntu with a new name?
[21:41] <LoCaLMaChIn1> whats going with the ubuntu channel
[21:41] <Ben_Cs> vinnl: backtrack is slax based and supposed to be better than nubuntu
[21:41] <vinnl> Ah
[21:42] <vidd> vinnl, any idea why his thing will display by ip addy and not with localhost?
[21:42] <vinnl> vidd, nope, but I'll be sure to remember it since I've had that problem with my own PHP scripts sometimes
[21:55] <Prikolchik> vidd, are u here?
[21:56] <Prikolchik> vidd, just want to let u know that i got the wireless card to work, lol. Once again, im not 100% sure how i've done it =D
[21:56] <totalwormage> :D
[21:57] <vidd> Prikolchik, glad to here it
[21:57] <Prikolchik> yea, it is funny. In Windows u have no idea how u broke something and in Linux u have no idea how u fixed something...
[21:57] <vinnl> xD
[21:57] <vidd> Prikolchik, did you reboot?
[21:57] <Prikolchik> nope
[21:58] <vidd> that is the ultimite test
[21:58] <Prikolchik> uh oh
[21:58] <Prikolchik> i added it to /etc/modules/ so it should work... lemem restart and i brb
[22:01] <liquidmetal> hello
[22:02] <vinnl> Hey liquidmetal
[22:02] <liquidmetal> I have a problem that i have been trying to fix for 2 days now
[22:03] <liquidmetal> I had windows xp media center edition 2005 on a sata drive which is now not working. I have a backup ata drive which has xubuntu on it
[22:04] <liquidmetal> i have no cd drive on this computer, i know you can install windows straight from the hard drive from within windows (i have done it before)
[22:04] <liquidmetal> i am a programmer and i need windows to test my programs on it. Is there any way i can install windows from within linux?
[22:05] <vinnl> I don't think so
[22:05] <liquidmetal> i have tried partitioning and using wine, but the windows install program runs into a error with wine
[22:05] <cody-somerville> Yes
[22:05] <Ben_Cs> vmware
[22:05] <vidd> liquidmetal, yes....but only to a virtual image
[22:05] <vinnl> Ah of course
[22:05]  * cody-somerville nods at Ben_Cs 
[22:05] <liquidmetal> vmware?
[22:06] <vinnl> !vmware
[22:06] <Ben_Cs> virtual pc inside linux
[22:06] <liquidmetal> ah, ok.
[22:07] <liquidmetal> now if its a virtual pc, will i be able to save to it? or will my data be lost everytime i reboot?
[22:07] <vidd> liquidmetal, you should be able to save to it
[22:09] <liquidmetal> ok, one last question
[22:10] <vidd> yes?
[22:11] <liquidmetal> is there any way i can have my comp boot to a executible? or have grub point to a file and run it?
[22:12] <vidd> like auto-launch an app?
[22:12] <liquidmetal> yeah
[22:12] <vidd> that is set by the OS, not the bootloader
[22:13] <vidd> the only thing your computer can boot is a bootloader....
[22:13] <vidd> grub is a bootloader
[22:13] <vidd> windows has their own bootloader
[22:14] <Prikolchik> hey, it all works great! I even make the led blink + off/on switch work
[22:14] <liquidmetal> ok, thankx
[22:14] <adakos> hey folks. I just did an apt-get install xubuntu-desktop from my server -- how do i start the graphics now?
[22:14] <Prikolchik> srry it took so long, i had to do a victory dance =D
[22:15] <vidd> adakos, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[22:15] <adakos> thanks.. let me try
[22:15] <adakos> oh snap.
[22:15] <adakos> thanks vidd.
[22:15] <vidd> Prikolchik, sweet...victory dance required to be recorded and posted to youtube!
[22:15] <adakos> how do i get back to my beloved console though?
[22:16] <adakos> nevermind
[22:16] <adakos> i figured it out
[22:16] <vidd> lol
[22:16] <adakos> hahaha thanks so much!
[22:17] <vidd> adakos, you could propably just said start instead of restrat....but what is two letters between freinds!
[22:17] <vidd> =]
[22:18] <Prikolchik> i dont want to flood youtube with my phat guy dances
[22:18] <vinnl> Everybody loves phat guy dances
[22:18] <Prikolchik> cy all thanks forall help!
[22:18] <vinnl> Bye
[22:19] <vidd> i think im done helping for the day
[22:19] <vinnl> ^.^
[22:19] <vidd> 10 minutes till the end of my shift
[22:23] <vidd> hey vinnl did thta guy ever gain access to his installer on the server machine?
[22:24] <nubuntu> vidd, i am here:     *           o PHP Extension "mcrypt" must be loaded           o PHP Extension "curl" must be loaded           o PHP Extension "gd" must be loaded
[22:24] <vidd> happy, happy....joy, joy
[22:25] <vidd> so are you able to access on the machine its running from?
[22:26] <vidd> so install curl, gd, and mcrypt
[22:27] <vidd> make sure you chose the correct version
[22:29] <vidd> im out...have fun!
[22:33] <cody-somerville> http://cody.zapto.org/?p=41
[22:39] <corey> can someone help me get my sound to work, I am running ubuntu but noone on that channel seems to be helping me
[22:42] <corey> can someone help me
[23:02] <dsl> Hello?
[23:02] <vinnl> Hey dsl
[23:02] <dsl> I have a quick question
[23:03] <dsl> On the xubuntu website there is mention on the download page of minimum RAM
[23:03] <dsl> What is minimum processor?
[23:03] <dsl> (I speak of version &#590;x)
[23:03] <dsl> (I speak of version 8)
[23:03] <Ben_Cs> 300nhz
[23:04] <Ben_Cs> but 450 is recommended
[23:05] <dsl> Ben_Cs, in your experience would 500MHz PIII with 384 MB RAM provide a responsive system?
[23:06] <Flannel> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[23:06] <Ben_Cs> dsl: yes
[23:07] <dsl> Thanks
[23:08] <Ben_Cs> dsl: but you should prefer apps that don't need much ram and cpu. ie: don't use k3b. use brasero instead , etc.