[11:35] <apachelogger> 你好
[13:01] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: pleae head over to the debian guys with bug 248792
[13:04] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: what would be the best way to get in contact with them?
[13:04] <apachelogger> irc.debian.org - #debian-qt-kde
[13:32] <\sh> Czessi: ping acer aspire one + kde4.1 on hardy + desktop effects == works out of the box
[13:36] <jjesse> Riddell: new adept updater shows there are updates ready for me even if there aren't any
[13:47] <jjesse> insteresting i restarted my intrepid vm and got a notification through adept? about an apt authentication issue?  any ideas?
[13:47] <jjesse> and when i resolve the authentication issue synaptic is runing instead of adpet?
[14:04] <Czessi> \sh: kool, works wlan and the cardreader?
[14:04] <\sh> Czessi: wlan works with updated drivers..cardreader I can't test right now, but regarding the ubuntuusers wiki report, no...but I'll check it out later tonight
[14:05] <\sh> Czessi: the cam is working too, with selfmade drivers...the only application which can't work with this webcam is adobes flashplayer...
[14:08] <Czessi> \sh: ok, some work to get kubuntu work fine
[14:09] <Czessi> \sh: http://www.czessi.de/en/images/linux-messen/froscon-2008?page=1&img=2 :-D
[14:09] <\sh> Czessi: yes..the fonts are too big for the 8.9" display...I set it to 7 instead of 10, and it looks nice
[14:11] <\sh> Czessi: http://gallery.sourcecode.de/v/Exhibition/album_003/
[14:16] <Czessi> \sh: lol, some crazy photos
[14:18] <Czessi> \sh: downloaded as zip
[14:26] <apachelogger> uhhh
[14:26] <apachelogger> all new kickoff theme in 4.2
[14:32] <waylandbill> This is the first time I fixed a bug. I follow the 'HowToFix' instructions on the ubuntu wiki verifying that the fix worked and submitted a patch via comment attachment on the bug page. Is that there all is too it?
[14:33] <JontheEchidna> waylandbill: subscribe the sponsor to either ubuntu-main-sponsors or ubuntu-universe-sponsors
[14:34] <JontheEchidna> then poke either an motu for universe or Riddell for main to take a look at the bug
[14:36] <waylandbill> JontheEchidna: not quite sure what you mean regarding 'the sponsor'.
[14:36] <ScottK-laptop> waylandbill: What bug?
[14:36] <JontheEchidna> er, subscribe the the bug
[14:36] <waylandbill> 260741
[14:37] <JontheEchidna> bug 260741
[14:37] <waylandbill> yes. that's the one
[14:37] <JontheEchidna> if you say bug then number ubottu will make a link ;-)
[14:39] <waylandbill> okay. so I would subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors to the bug since it is in the universe. Sounds simple enough.
[15:25] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: can you testrun the diff?
[15:25] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: for kubuntu-grub-splashimages?
[15:25] <apachelogger> waylandbill: the series in changelog should be intrepid and the version 2.2 <- because it's a native ubuntu package
[15:25] <apachelogger> JontheEchidna: yesso
[15:25] <JontheEchidna> sure
[15:29] <waylandbill> apachelogger: should I change that and submit a new patch?
[15:29] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: I never really needed to do this so I never learned, so how does one apply a debdiff?
[15:29] <apachelogger> patch -p0 < PATCHFILE
[15:30] <apachelogger> waylandbill: not if the patch itself works properly
[15:30] <apachelogger> then I'll just change that before uploading
[15:30] <JontheEchidna> oh, that easy then
[15:31] <apachelogger> that is one old package :S
[15:31]  * JontheEchidna debuilds
[15:31] <JontheEchidna> whoa, you're right
[15:31] <JontheEchidna> standards version 3.6.2
[15:32] <JontheEchidna> E: kubuntu-grub-splashimages: debian-changelog-file-contains-invalid-email-address waylandbill@waylandbill-laptop
[15:33]  * apachelogger updates
[15:33] <apachelogger> waylandbill what email address are you using on launchpad?
[15:33] <waylandbill> oh. I should've set that to waylandbill@gmail.com. :-/
[15:33] <apachelogger> technically it could be anything in form of x@y.tld, but with a proper email address launchpad can associate the changelog entry :)
[15:34] <JontheEchidna> brb, rebooting to test
[15:35]  * apachelogger is wondering whether we can incorporate these images into kgrubeditor somehow
[15:38] <apachelogger> uh
[15:38] <apachelogger> nice
[15:38] <apachelogger> kgrubeditor crashes on the new menu.lst
[15:39] <waylandbill> I've never used kgrubeditor. perhaps it doesn't know about the foreground and background commands.
[15:40] <apachelogger> hm
[15:40] <apachelogger> -rw------- 1 root root   4965 2008-08-25 16:37 menu.lst
[15:40] <apachelogger> that isn't all that correct
[15:40] <apachelogger> waylandbill: I am not sure it is related to that
[15:42] <waylandbill> what should the correct permissions be? 644?
[15:43] <JontheEchidna> Works from what I can see
[15:43] <JontheEchidna> I had to reboot again since on the first reboot /var was mounted as read-only for some reason >.>
[15:44] <asfak> i am very happy about present state of Kubuntu Intrepid alpha4. Updated regularly. Hardly any crash. Huge boot and shutdown improvement.
[15:45] <jjesse> yay glad to hear asfak
[15:45] <apachelogger> +1
[15:45] <waylandbill> I could've set the background to value in the menu.lst to kubuntu style blue say 0x0cccfc, but it made the grub menu text harder to read I thought.
[15:45] <JontheEchidna> what was the bug number again?
[15:46] <waylandbill> bug 260741
[15:46] <JontheEchidna> thanks
[15:46] <apachelogger> we really should get that crash fixed
[15:48] <waylandbill> I'm installing kgrubeditor, but my connection is a little slow and it need needs 65MB to download
[15:48] <asfak> But some features need to be improved. I will list them. First, bootsplash image shows 2 progress line. One broken small line below actual boot progress line . is it known problem or it's problem with my old Nvidia Geforce2 Int GPU ?
[15:49] <nixternal> hrmm, running ipmitool with strace and receiving this error:
[15:49] <nixternal> open("/usr/lib/kde4/lib/tls/i686/sse2/cmov/libm.so.6", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[15:49] <nixternal> my question is, why is it looking at /usr/lib/kde4 instead of /lib?
[15:50] <apachelogger> asfak: report a bug against usplash
[15:50] <JontheEchidna> asfak: I get that too
[15:50] <apachelogger> nixternal: ipmitool?
[15:50] <apachelogger> !info ipmitool intrepid
[15:52] <apachelogger> nixternal: maybe LD_LIBRARY_PATH is set?
[15:53] <apachelogger> waylandbill: KUBUNTU_splashscreen_real_colors_0* is causing the crash apparently
[15:53] <apachelogger> still getting strange errors though
[16:02] <nixternal> apachelogger: yup, that's it
[16:02] <nixternal> wth is that about?
[16:03] <apachelogger> .bashrc?
[16:03] <apachelogger> leftover in startkde?
[16:03] <nixternal> shouldn't be, but I will look
[16:03] <apachelogger> well, it's not the latter apparently
[16:04] <apachelogger> kgrubeditor just nuked my system
[16:04] <apachelogger> -.-
[16:09] <waylandbill> hopefully you had a menu.lst backup
[16:09] <apachelogger> nope
[16:09] <JontheEchidna> it automatically backed up mine
[16:09] <apachelogger> but it's much worse that kgrubeditor is now causing waitload
[16:09] <waylandbill> the installation of kubuntu-grub-splashimages should've made one.
[16:09] <apachelogger> a lot of it actuall
[16:09] <apachelogger> y
[16:10] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: software-properties-kde used "/usr/bin/adept-batch update" to reload the sources.list
[16:11] <JontheEchidna> and it doesn't look like install-package has that functionality
[16:11] <JontheEchidna> any idea what to use instead?
[16:13] <JontheEchidna> I suppose if it comes to it we could call apt-get update, lol
[16:18] <JontheEchidna> actually doing that causes software-properties to freeze until apt-get is done, lol
[16:25] <asfak> apachelogger, sorry i was disconnected. How do i report a bug against usplash. ? I am non-technical person but willing to help for kubuntu
[16:26] <waylandbill> two-thirds of the download to install kgrubeditor is kde-icons-oxygen. ;-)
[16:26] <asfak_> apachelogger, sorry i was disconnected. How do i report a bug against usplash. ? I am non-technical person but willing to help for kubuntu
[16:35] <asfak> I have installed Lancelot on Kub-int A4. It's very very sexy. I am in favour of adding it as optional menu in final release.
[16:35] <jtechidna> asfak: packages should be available for that soon actually
[16:38] <asfak> no it's already available on http://ppa.launchpad.net/samrog131/ubuntu
[16:38] <jtechidna> that's not official
[16:39] <asfak> yes, it should be included in off repo
[16:39] <jtechidna> it will be, soon
[16:39] <jtechidna> ;-)
[16:41] <asfak> anyway, others packages in above mention launchpad makes dolphins life very easy.
[16:43] <asfak> e.g servicemenu-rootaction, extractandcompress etc
[16:46] <waylandbill> apachelogger: find anything else out about the kgrubeditor issue? I still have 20 minutes wait for installation before I can try.
[16:55] <asfak> waylandbill, kgrubeditor is fine, but the only issue which i have faced is when getting new bootsplash images from internet. Clicking add new opens the new stuff in back of kgrub screen and you are unable to select the splash image
[16:59] <waylandbill> asfak: when testing a patch I made for kubuntu-grub-splashimages, kgrubeditor was crashing for apachelogger.
[17:09] <apachelogger> bah
[17:09]  * apachelogger made his hole grub explode
[17:10] <waylandbill> apachelogger: how does run kgrubeditor?
[17:11] <apachelogger> didn't find the problem
[17:11] <apachelogger> although I found another problem :P
[17:11] <apachelogger> *reboot*
[17:12] <waylandbill> I meant how does one run it?
[17:13] <apachelogger> oh
[17:14] <apachelogger> waylandbill: kcmshell4 kgrubeditor
[17:15] <apachelogger> jtechidna: please add a comment to the bug report
[17:17] <waylandbill> don't have kcmshell4. is that because I have kde 3.x?
[17:17] <apachelogger> waylandbill: /usr/lib/kde4/kcmshell4 kgrubeditor
[17:19] <waylandbill> found it in /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kcmshell4. thanks.
[17:21] <waylandbill> well that didn't get me far. it's complaining that it can't find kgrubeditor.desktop
[17:26] <apachelogger> oh
[17:26] <apachelogger> waylandbill: run /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kbuildsycoca4  before
[20:36]  * jpds wonders where nosrednaekim went.
[20:37] <Riddell> jtechidna: hmm, I guess I should look at adding apt-get update to install-package then
[20:52] <jtechidna> Riddell: Have you seen papabean's work here? https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~papabean/language-selector/kdeport
[20:53] <jtechidna> It's a bit more pykde than language-selector-qt is at the moment
[20:53] <jtechidna> I think all it needs is to be converted to use install-package and then it'd be good for merging
[20:54] <Riddell> jtechidna: I merged that into the main branch
[20:54] <Riddell> devfil_: got packages?
[20:55] <devfil_> Riddell: there are all in my ppa
[20:55] <Riddell> devfil_: good to upload?
[20:56] <devfil_> Riddell: yes
[20:58] <waylandbill> I submitted a patch earlier today. The email notification from LP said that the state went from Confirmed to Fix Released. Does this mean that the bug is now closed and the patch is done or do I need to do anything else?
[21:00] <Riddell> waylandbill: bug number?
[21:00] <jtechidna> Riddell: bug 260741
[21:00] <jtechidna> apachelogger set it to fix released 5 mins ago
[21:01] <Riddell> did someone upload?
[21:02] <apachelogger> <-- did
[21:02] <Riddell> sorted :)
[21:02] <Riddell> waylandbill: there you go
[21:03] <waylandbill> Riddell: so the fix is all set?
[21:03] <Riddell> although it should have put the changelog in a bug comment
[21:04] <Riddell> waylandbill: looking at https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-grub-splashimages it is in, thanks for the fix
[21:04] <jtechidna> Riddell: any reason the QMessageBox -> KMessageBox changes in lanugage-selector didn't get merged?
[21:05] <Riddell> jtechidna: not too sure
[21:05] <Riddell> maybe I didn't do the merge properly
[21:06] <waylandbill> Riddell: great. I just wanted to make sure. I don't want to work on another bug before that one was done.
[21:07] <waylandbill> I picked an easy one with low priority since it was the first bug I attempted to fix.
[21:08] <apachelogger> waylandbill: very good fix though :)
[21:10] <waylandbill> I set up an RSS feed for ubuntu bugs. Is there a feed that would just give me kubuntu bugs since I'm not interested in gnome based ones?
[21:12] <Riddell> kubuntu-bugs mailing list should
[21:12] <Riddell> although it was set up ages ago and the selection of packages it's subscribed to might be out of date somewhat
[21:14] <apachelogger> Riddell: is this list associated to the 'kubuntu team' lp team?
[21:16] <Riddell> apachelogger: could be
[21:17] <apachelogger> Email:
[21:17] <apachelogger>   kubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com
[21:17] <apachelogger> seems so
[21:18] <waylandbill> okay. I will subscribe to that mailing list. I don't mind seeing the ubuntu bugs. It is just that my connection gives me 30kb/s and it would be much easier to work with binaries and sources based on kde.
[21:19] <Riddell> devfil_: let's upload these babies
[21:19] <apachelogger> Riddell: I certainly can't add bug subscriptions for this team though :|
[21:20]  * Riddell wonders how to fix that
[21:28] <waylandbill> Riddell: you have probably heard this before but kubuntu rocks. Happy to help out.
[21:29]  * Riddell rocks waylandbill 
[21:30] <smarter> hey folks
[21:30] <smarter> Kvkbd is almost ready
[21:30] <Riddell> smarter: ooh
[21:30] <smarter> I will probably release a rc tomorrow, so that it can get in before feature freeze
[21:30] <Riddell> smarter: great
[21:30] <smarter> I still need to polish some things
[21:31] <smarter> and I'd like to do some other works before FF too ;)
[21:31] <smarter> I also need to contact the original author
[21:31] <Riddell> devfil_: please e-mail Debian maintainer Jeremy Lainé <jeremy.laine@m4x. org> about the new kdevelop release being out and no packaging changes needed
[21:32] <coreymon77> oh boy, these people are unbearable in the ##kubuntu channel
[21:32] <Riddell> double hash?
[21:32] <devfil_> Riddell: ok
[21:32] <coreymon77> im going nuts
[21:32] <coreymon77> whoops
[21:32] <coreymon77> #kubuntu
[21:32] <coreymon77> sorry
[21:33] <coreymon77> i meant single hash
[21:33] <coreymon77> either way this guy is driving me crazy
[21:34] <apachelogger> coreymon77: who?
[21:35] <coreymon77> this tangirehv, he comes in asking for our help, then refuses it and says our suggestions are stupid and linux is inconvenient etc
[21:35] <apachelogger> coreymon77: just ignore him then
[21:35] <apachelogger> we don't force him to use linux :P
[21:36] <coreymon77> we've tried
[21:36] <apachelogger> there is no point in arguing about that kind of stuff
[21:36] <ScottK-laptop> Some of us don't even care if he uses it.
[21:36] <coreymon77> we know
[21:36] <apachelogger> coreymon77: well, if he disturbs supporting others you might poke one of the irc dudes
[21:37] <coreymon77> im thinking of invoking the ops command
[21:37] <ScottK-laptop> coreymon77: Is he being anoying or actually disruptive?
[21:37] <coreymon77> im waiting until he starts actually being disruptive
[21:37] <coreymon77> before i do it
[21:38] <ScottK-laptop> OK.
[21:42] <coreymon77> finally, this guy has shut his trap
[21:44] <Riddell> devfil_: uploaded!
[21:45] <devfil_> Riddell: thanks, now I working to gtk-kde4 package with should provide a good integration between gtk and kde4
[21:45] <devfil_> s/with/witch/
[21:47] <Riddell> devfil_: better than gtk-qt-engine you think?
[21:47] <devfil_> Riddell: yes
[21:47] <Riddell> s/witch/which/ :)
[21:48]  * devfil_ go to kill "t"
[21:48] <devfil_> :D
[21:48] <devfil_> Riddell: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/gtk-kde4?content=74689
[21:49] <coreymon77> you mean integration between kde and, for example, the gimp?
[21:49] <devfil_> coreymon77: yes
[21:49] <coreymon77> cool
[21:49] <devfil_> gtk-kde4 is a gtk theme that looks like kde4 default theme
[21:49] <Riddell> we need to make gtk apps looks nice, since gtk comes with a horrible default theme
[21:50]  * coreymon77 is still waiting for stable kde4/mac
[21:50]  * devfil_ too
[21:50] <devfil_> Riddell: also should exists a sort of integration between kde3 and kde4
[21:50]  * coreymon77 is still using a macported konversation over x11.app that cant copy and paste from aqua firefox and crashes randomly
[21:51]  * apachelogger rofls
[21:51] <coreymon77> its true
[21:51] <coreymon77> thats what im on now
[21:51] <apachelogger> coreymon77: pretty good stuff that is :D
[21:51] <coreymon77> i cant copy for example, a url from mac firefox and paste it in konv
[21:51] <apachelogger> coreymon77: next time poke me, I am good at trolling ^_^
[21:52] <coreymon77> will do
[21:52] <coreymon77> maybe you guys will know this
[21:52] <devfil_> coreymon77: gimp: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/preview.php?preview=3&id=74689&file1=74689-1.jpeg&file2=74689-2.jpeg&file3=74689-3.jpeg&name=gtk-kde4
[21:52] <coreymon77> in the custom browser string of konv, any idea how to make it use my aqua firefox when i click on links
[21:52] <coreymon77> it worked before
[21:53] <apachelogger> devfil_: about kde3 + kde4... feel free to find a theme making KDE 3 oxygenish :)
[21:53] <coreymon77> but my hd died and i lost everything, forget how i did it
[21:54] <apachelogger> Riddell: maybe we should go with that gtk-kde4 thingy, it seems more reliable than gtk-engine-qt
[21:54] <apachelogger> I think suse is also using it
[21:55] <coreymon77> firefox '%u' is in the custom browser box and thats not working
[21:55] <apachelogger> PATHTO/firefox '%u'
[21:55] <apachelogger> would be my guess
[21:56] <coreymon77> should i include the .app after firefox
[21:56] <apachelogger> probably
[21:57] <coreymon77> so /Applications/firefox.app '%u'
[21:57] <Riddell> apachelogger: I've not had a chance to look at either yet.  was hoping someone else would sort it out :)
[21:58] <apachelogger> coreymon77: looks reasonable, give it a try
[22:00] <apachelogger> Riddell: well, looking at the bug reports for gtk-engine-qt-kde4 it's pretty buggy and that gtk-kde4 thing is using pixmap/pixbuffer, so the latter should be less bug hunted
[22:00] <coreymon77> did it
[22:00]  * apachelogger remembers that the implementation wasn't all that great last time he checked
[22:01] <coreymon77> got some help from the macports channel
[22:01] <coreymon77> open -a Firefox 'u%'
[22:02] <apachelogger> ah, xdg-open for mac
[22:02] <apachelogger> makes sense :)
[22:07] <smarter> Riddell: I don't know if it's Printer Applet or CUPS fault, but I had to remove my configured printer from system-config-printer-kde and readd it to be able to print
[22:07] <coreymon77> meh, i just use hp printers
[22:07] <coreymon77> they work easy
[22:08] <smarter> it's an hp printer
[22:08] <coreymon77> hp-lip ftw
[22:08] <smarter> and it works fine
[22:08] <smarter> didn't like hardy->intrepid transition
[22:09] <smarter> Riddell: by the way, system-config-printer-kde doesn't popup a message when it configure a newly plugged printer?
[22:09] <smarter> *anymore
[22:11] <Riddell> smarter: printer-applet shoulDigital Downloadsd
[22:12] <Riddell> ?
[22:12] <Riddell> smarter: printer-applet should
[22:14] <smarter> Riddell: printer-appled should what? (:
[22:15] <Riddell> smarter: should popup a message
[22:15] <smarter> but it doesn't
[22:25] <apachelogger> Riddell: I'll talk to the opensuse guys about GTK tomorrow ... fedora uses their nodoka theme anyway
[22:42] <devfil_> apachelogger: I think this night I will upload gtk-kde4 to REVU
[22:42] <apachelogger> ok, cool
[22:42] <apachelogger> poke for a revu
[22:42] <echidnaman> I think it's already in revu
[22:42] <devfil_> d'oh really?
[22:42] <devfil_> I've already finished it
[22:43] <echidnaman> pretty sure
[22:43] <devfil_> echidnaman: Archiving per uploader request.
[22:43] <apachelogger> http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=gtk-kde4
[22:44] <devfil_> apachelogger: yes, but it is archived
[22:44] <apachelogger> yes
[22:45] <apachelogger> I think vorian uploade by accident
[22:45] <apachelogger> *uploaded
[22:48] <apachelogger> echidnaman: anything else we should get in before FF?
[22:48] <ScottK-laptop> apachelogger: Everything.
[22:48] <apachelogger> hehe
[22:48] <ScottK-laptop> ;-)
[22:49] <JontheEchidna> uh
[22:49] <JontheEchidna> Riddell: did you ever get around to jockey?
[22:50] <JontheEchidna> apachelogger: jockey, and language-selector-qt needs to be fixed to work with package-installer
[22:50] <JontheEchidna> or install-package
[22:50] <JontheEchidna> whatever
[22:53] <Riddell> JontheEchidna: it seemed to work, I'll look at uploading it tomorrow
[22:53] <JontheEchidna> Cool, thanks
[23:04] <devfil> Riddell: CMake Error at cmake_install.cmake:36 (FILE):
[23:04] <devfil>   file INSTALL cannot find file "/root/gtk-kde4-0.8~beta/lib/kcm_gk4.so" to
[23:04] <devfil>   install.
[23:04] <devfil> the file is in obj-i486-linux-gnu/lib/kcm_gk4.so
[23:04] <devfil> an error of the cmake?
[23:06] <ScottK-laptop> devfil: Did you see http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=74689&forumpage=8&PHPSESSID=e5af
[23:08] <devfil> ScottK-laptop: so I need to use CMAKE_INSTALL_PREFIX, thanks
[23:31] <apachelogger> haha
[23:32] <apachelogger> kopete is the best
[23:32] <apachelogger> "There was a negotiation error: It appears we have been redirected to another server; I do not know how to handle this."