[00:01] <DayOldPorridge> The X server won't start; when I try to startx it says "xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/user/.Xauthority  Cannot establish any listening sockets - Make sure an X server isn't already running."
[00:02] <DayOldPorridge> I think it has to do with downloading an upgrade to ubuntu-desktop that was held back
[00:02] <nrg_> hello, can anyone help me to make v4l-dvb work on intrepid?
[00:26] <DayOldPorridge> Anyone wanna help me with my x server?
[00:36] <perlluver> hi guys, is Nvidia working in Intrepid?
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[03:41] <EagleScreen> there will be update-manager-kde for Kubuntu Intrepid?
[04:22] <Lunks> What is the simplest way to install kde4? install kubuntu-desktop?
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[05:01] <RAOF> Lunks: Yup.
[05:02] <Lunks> RAOF: This will probably mess with my desktop a lot, won't it? I'm actually interested on just trying it. If I remove kubuntu-desktop later, everything will be fine?
[05:03] <RAOF> Yes.
[05:04] <Lunks> Ok, thanks RAOF! =)
[06:25] <Klick__> Hey all, anyone know why since i upgraded to Intrepid fire fox seems to open a lot of untitled windows, and if i close them all firefox windows close?
[06:52] <siimo> hi anyone experiencing random xorg crashes in intrepid?
[06:54] <Klick__> Hey all, anyone know why since i upgraded to Intrepid fire fox seems to open a lot of untitled windows, and if i close them all firefox windows close?
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[08:07] <DanaG> Stupid NetworkManager... if I boot with my rfkill switch set to 'kill'.... I can't re-enable wireless even if I do press the hotkey.
[08:07] <DanaG> It still shows "Wireless Disabled".
[08:07] <DanaG> I have to uncheck and recheck "Enable Networking" to get wireless back.
[08:07] <DanaG> Lame.
[08:11] <Wellark> DanaG: please, open a bug at https://bugs.launchpad.net/network-manager
[08:11] <estunecle> DanaG: wow, i see you provide valuable feedback for at least half-year probably. i hope someone make notes and taking care...
[08:12] <estunecle> :P
[08:12] <DanaG> Heh, I do need to actually formally report some of the things I've found, rather than just griping about them....
[08:13] <RAOF> And possibly even fix some; you're clearly capable of it :()
[08:13] <DanaG> Yeah.
[08:14] <DanaG> One example: the QuodLibet thing... I don't know Python, but surely I'd be able to dig around in the code to find out why setting a collection root breaks the folder views.
[08:14]  * RAOF notes that your screensaver gripe is trivially fixable by you :P
[08:14] <DanaG> Aah, the xscreensaver thingy... right.
[08:15] <DanaG> The rss-glx one, that is.
[08:15] <RAOF> Indeed.
[08:16] <DanaG> !debdiff
[08:16] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about debdiff
[08:16] <RAOF> !packagingguide
[08:16] <ubottu> The packaging guide is at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages for information on getting a package integrated into Ubuntu - Other developer resources are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment - See also !backports
[08:16] <RAOF> Certainly has a link to what you're after, although is a bit of overkill :)
[08:16]  * DanaG will use google instead, or just search the wiki.
[08:17] <DanaG> Oh yeah, I've now adapted my xorg.conf synaptics options into an fdi file.  Sweet.
[08:17] <RAOF> Nifty.  Anything worth upstreaming to Ubuntu?
[08:17] <DanaG> Another idea: put a comment in xorg.conf pointing users to the right place.
[08:18] <DanaG> Making it an FDI file makes it more robust against psmouse dropouts and such; otherwise, upon device disconnection and reconnection, it loses all settings.
[08:19] <DanaG> Another recent report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/257809
[08:19] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 257809 in kde-guidance "guidance-backends overwrites xorg.conf without confirmation or notification, if video card has changed since last boot" [Undecided,New]
[09:36] <omfgitsashark> hey can anybody help me out
[09:37] <omfgitsashark> can anybody help me
[09:37] <RAOF> Possibly, although not without knowing what the problem is.
[09:37] <RAOF> !ask
[09:37] <ubottu> Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)
[09:37] <omfgitsashark> hahaha
[09:37] <omfgitsashark> sorry
[09:38] <LSD|Ninja> omfgitsashark: It's not your fault
[09:38] <omfgitsashark> i just downloaded this gnome app it like a redo of the log in screen
[09:38] <omfgitsashark> i have no idea how to install this i have had ubuntu for about 3 days now and i still have no clue what to do
[09:38] <omfgitsashark> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Intrepid+Ibex+GDM+(list)?content=87580
[09:39] <RAOF> You're probably after #ubuntu, although that's often busy and noisy.
[09:39] <omfgitsashark> yeah someone there said i would be better off comming here
[09:39] <RAOF> Hm.  that looks quite nice, though.
[09:39] <omfgitsashark> yeah i know
[09:39] <omfgitsashark> i just need to learn how to install stuff like this into ubuntu
[09:39] <RAOF> Sadly, they were lying, although that does have "Intrepid" in the thingy :)
[09:39] <omfgitsashark> yeah i know
[09:39] <omfgitsashark> i just want the look
[09:39] <omfgitsashark> haha
[09:40] <RAOF> I suggest that you need to unpack the tarball to /usr/share/gdm/themes
[09:41] <omfgitsashark> see you lost me there i got the file path but what is the tarball
[09:42] <omfgitsashark> ooo ok
[09:42] <omfgitsashark> so the .tar
[09:43] <RAOF> So, in a terminal it would be "cd /usr/share/gdm/themes", followed by "sudo tar xjvf ~/Downloads/87580-IntrepidList.tar.bz2"
[09:44] <omfgitsashark> so i  would type the first one in hit enter followed by the second
[09:44] <RAOF> Correct.
[09:44] <omfgitsashark> with or without ¨
[09:44] <RAOF> Without.
[09:45] <omfgitsashark> ooo man oo man oo man
[09:46] <omfgitsashark> i dont think anything happened
[09:46] <RAOF> After running the tar line there should be some output as it unpacks the files.
[09:47] <omfgitsashark> i copy and pasted what you wrote into the terminal
[09:47] <omfgitsashark> first the fist one hit eneter
[09:47] <omfgitsashark> then the second hit enter
[09:48] <RAOF> Right.  The second should ask for your password, and then print out a bunch of filenames as it's unpacking the files.
[09:48] <omfgitsashark> no
[09:48] <RAOF> (There may well be an easier way to do this; this is just the first thing that popped into my head).
[09:48] <omfgitsashark> when i hit enter it just drops down a line
[09:49] <RAOF> You're acutally in a termainal?
[09:49] <RAOF> Terminal, sorry.
[09:49] <omfgitsashark> apps/acc/terminal
[09:49] <RAOF> Right.
[09:50] <omfgitsashark> yeah
[09:50] <RAOF> So, typing "cd /usr/share/gdm/themes" without the " should move you to the appropriate directory.  What's in the terminal now?
[09:51] <omfgitsashark> rob@Rob-Laptop:~$ cd /usr/share/gdm/themes"
[09:51] <omfgitsashark> > sudo tar xjvf ~/Downloads/87580-IntrepidList.tar.bz2
[09:51] <omfgitsashark> >
[09:51] <omfgitsashark> >
[09:51] <omfgitsashark> > cd /usr/share/gdm/themes
[09:51] <omfgitsashark> > sudo tar xjvf ~/Downloads/87580-IntrepidList.tar.bz2
[09:51] <omfgitsashark> >
[09:51] <omfgitsashark> >
[09:52] <RAOF> Um.  You shouldn't have the " there
[09:52] <RAOF> It's waiting for you to finish the string between the " "s.
[09:52] <omfgitsashark> rofl
[09:52] <omfgitsashark> wow
[09:52] <omfgitsashark> at me
[09:58] <omfgitsashark> ok
[09:58] <omfgitsashark> so that worked let me see
[09:58] <RAOF> You should now be able to select it in System->Administration->Login Window
[10:00] <omfgitsashark> ok let me check this o0ut
[10:02] <omfgitsashark> it didnt work
[10:04] <omfgitsashark> ok i got it to work
[10:04] <omfgitsashark> thank you so so so so so so so much
[10:15] <RAOF> omfgitsashark: Much better to ask a channel than privmsg.
[10:17] <omfgitsashark> raof
[10:17] <omfgitsashark> you there
[10:17] <omfgitsashark> i need help installing theme
[10:17] <omfgitsashark> i thought it would go the same way as the last one
[10:17] <omfgitsashark> but it isnt work ing
[10:18] <RAOF> Which theme?
[10:18] <RAOF> Most themes you can simply drag to the Appearance applet.
[10:19] <omfgitsashark> let me link you
[10:19] <omfgitsashark> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=86844&vote=good&tan=31951600
[10:19] <RAOF> Yup.  You just drag the download to the Appearance applet.
[10:19] <RAOF> System->Preferences->Appearance
[10:20] <RAOF> Alternatively, you can click on the "Install" button in System->Preferences->Appearance
[10:20] <RAOF> Both work.
[10:21] <omfgitsashark> i installed it and am now running it but it doersnt look right
[10:21] <omfgitsashark> like the background is still the same and i dont think it is right
[10:21] <omfgitsashark> do i need anything else installed to make that work
[10:21] <omfgitsashark> because i just have regular ubuntu
[10:22] <RAOF> The desktop background?  It's entirely possible that the background isn't included in the theme.
[10:22] <omfgitsashark> well the opacity isnt dropping as well
[10:22] <omfgitsashark> it just doesnt look right at all
[10:27] <omfgitsashark> i really dont get this
[10:28] <omfgitsashark> i am trying a diffrent start menu screen
[10:43] <omfgitsashark> would anybody happen to know what the addon is to make it look like the mac os with the dock on the bbottom
[10:44] <grumpymole> omfgitsashark: it looks like awn (avant-window-manager)
[10:45] <grumpymole> it's in the repos
[10:45] <grumpymole> as avant-window-manager
[10:45] <omfgitsashark> where would i be able to find that at... and would it work on a crap lap?
[10:45] <grumpymole> also install awn-manager, iirc
[10:46] <grumpymole> you need visual effects
[10:46] <grumpymole> depends on the crap lap viceo card
[10:46] <grumpymole>                                ^^^video
[10:46] <omfgitsashark> hahahaha
[10:47] <omfgitsashark> i cant turn on the visual effects
[10:47] <omfgitsashark> so that is a no go
[10:47] <grumpymole> i believe so.  apparently, they are working on a version that doesn't require the same level of graphics card
[10:48] <grumpymole> there are other docks, but i haven't used them
[10:48] <omfgitsashark> i have really fallen in love with ubuntu
[10:48] <omfgitsashark> since i got it 3 days ago
[10:48] <grumpymole> they may not require the same level of graphis support
[10:48] <omfgitsashark> i am thinking about buying a new lappy
[10:48] <omfgitsashark> just for this
[10:49] <grumpymole> when the 3d effects came around, i thought it was just a waste of time
[10:49] <grumpymole> but as you start using them, you'll find some really useful stuff
[10:50] <omfgitsashark> hahahaha
[10:50] <omfgitsashark> i cant run that either
[10:50] <grumpymole> the FIRST thing I do on a new ubuntu install is install awn and ditch the bottom panel
[10:52] <omfgitsashark> i wish i could but i will have to wait till i get something that can handel hahahah
[10:53] <omfgitsashark> does awn work like the mac doc
[10:53] <omfgitsashark> were it would replace the bottom panel
[10:53] <omfgitsashark> and the apps would minimize to that
[10:53] <grumpymole> yes
[10:53] <grumpymole> yes
[10:53] <grumpymole> and when app is minimized, it gets a little arrow/triangle to show that it is a 'live' app minimized
[10:54] <grumpymole> also has effects when app wants to notify you of activity.  like bouncing icon etc
[10:55] <omfgitsashark> god i need new lappy \
[10:55] <grumpymole> search for awn on youtube for some vids
[10:55] <omfgitsashark> i dont know if i will be able to use this theme i have right now because my lappy doesnt seem to be able to hande olit
[10:57] <LSD|Ninja> O_o
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[13:45] <Raspberry> Is there any documentation anywhere on how to use KVM with Ubuntu 8.10?
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[14:23] <Laney> Can someone try something for me? System->Preferences->Preferred Applications. Change the default browser and see if you get a crash, please :>
[14:25] <IdleOne> Laney: what kind of crash? browser or system?
[14:25] <Laney> IdleOne: Just a Bug Buddy crash report from Deskbar
[14:25] <Laney> I just want to see if other people can repro it
[14:25] <IdleOne> Laney: nothing happened
[14:26] <Laney> IdleOne: Interesting
[14:26] <IdleOne> Laney: although fifrefox is sucking big time lately
[14:26] <Laney> 'tis a deskbar problem, not FF
[14:26] <IdleOne> but no bug buddy reports on browser change
[14:28] <Laney> http://orangesquash.org.uk/~laney/bb.png is what I get
[14:32] <Laney> Apparently it's fixed in deskbar svn
[14:32] <Laney> \o/
[14:57] <Turski> i have a problem
[14:57] <Turski> just updated to intrepid, and now X doesnt recognise my mouse and keyboard before i reset kdm
[14:57] <Turski> any ideas how to fix that?
[14:59] <Turski> also alt gr funtions as enter
[15:03] <Hobbsee> install -evdev?
[15:03] <Hobbsee> xserver-xorg-input-evdev
[15:05] <Turski> i have it already
[15:06] <Hobbsee> strange.
[15:06] <Hobbsee> you presumably have -kbd and -mouse too?
[15:06] <shadowhywind> by anychance did xorg.conf get changed around in intrepid from hardy?
[15:06] <Hobbsee> shadowhywind: well, xorg itself got upgraded...
[15:07] <Turski> yep
[15:07] <Turski> it's almos empty ;)
[15:08] <shadowhywind> I did a fresh install of intrepid(kubuntu) copied my old settings since i had my dual screening working. And now i am having some issues, not sure if its due to xorg or plasma
[15:08] <Turski> shift and arrow keys arent recognised too
[15:08] <Hobbsee> Turski: no idea, then.
[15:08] <Hobbsee> Turski: i presume if you give logs, people might be able to help
[15:09] <Turski> shift doesn't work as part of hotkey
[15:10] <Turski> which logs?
[15:11] <Turski> kdm?
[15:12] <Turski> that's kdm.log http://pastebin.com/d31423876
[15:13] <Turski> ah, looks like it has something to do with btnx...
[15:14] <Hobbsee> Xorg log, probably
[15:16] <Hobbsee> strange errors there.
[15:18] <Turski> http://pastebin.com/d3cca4dcc xorg.0.log
[15:21] <Turski> i'll try rebooting since i removed btnx
[15:21] <Hobbsee> good idea
[15:25] <Turski> nope...
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[15:41] <Turski> wtf... up arrow is recognised as print screen
[15:41] <s0u][ight> Turski: lay-out)
[15:41] <s0u][ight> ?
[15:44] <Turski> i have right layout set
[15:53] <Turski> should firefox look uhly or pretty in intrepid?
[15:53] <Turski> i have ugly look
[15:57] <IdleOne> Turski: you have the default look
[15:57] <IdleOne> but I don't think it is the "final" look
[15:57] <IdleOne> we will wait and see
[15:59] <Turski> default?
[15:59] <Turski> i mean, shouldn't it look like kde-themed in kubuntu
[15:59] <IdleOne> default: what the devs decided it would look like for now
[16:00] <Turski> forgot to mention that i have kubuntu
[16:01] <IdleOne> same rule applies the kubuntu devs decided it looks like it does until they decide to make it look different
[16:01] <JontheEchidna> Turski: install gtk-qt-engine & configure it in systemsettings
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[16:12] <Turski> JontheEchidna: there's no settings for it?
[16:12] <heroxbd> Hello. I've met with a wired problem. When I am using Ubuntu 8.04
[16:12] <heroxbd> 	  with linux 2.6.24, my ethernet adapter was running very good. But
[16:12] <heroxbd> 	  just after I download a 2.6.26 kernel from intrepid and installed
[16:12] <heroxbd> 	  it, the 2.6.24 kernel does not function with my ethernet.
[16:12] <JontheEchidna> Turski: in the appearance section of systemsettings?
[16:13] <Turski> that "Use my KDE theme on GTK applivations"?
[16:13] <Turski> i have it enabled but firefox still looks like just qt
[16:14] <JontheEchidna> there should be a whole section
[16:14] <JontheEchidna> GTK Styles and fonts
[16:14] <JontheEchidna> oh, I see
[16:15] <JontheEchidna> uh, you might need to restart KDE
[16:16] <Turski> hmm.. i thought that i did it already -_-
[16:16] <Turski> well, now it works
[16:16] <Turski> but i have still those other problems
[16:17] <Turski> as keyboard and mouse doesn't work after boot and i have to restart kdm before they do
[16:17] <Turski> and arrow keys and some others dont work properly
[16:18] <Turski> actually looks like their functions are changing all the time O_o
[16:49] <kev_> hey
[16:49] <kev_> do you guys think its safe to install 8.10?
[16:50] <pwnguin> well its unlikely to get you killed
[16:50] <kev_> lol
[16:51] <kev_> is it secure enough to install a head of time?
[17:00] <bytor4232> kev_:  Alpha 5 works fine.  There is a few issues for me, like with the splash screen and the alpha nvidia cards.  Otherwise, I've had little difficulty with Xubuntu 8.10
[17:02] <ssam> kev_, there is still a fair chance that one day between now and release you will not be able to boot into intrepid because some update has broken something
[17:02] <kev_> i see ssam, thanks.
[17:03] <ssam> ssam, and a small chance that it will eat your data
[17:03] <ssam> oops, i am ssam :-)
[17:04] <ssam> kev_, testing it on a spare partition is a better idea. (though you should still have a back up)
[17:31] <Klick__> Hey all, has anyone noticed that the brightness goes up and down automatialy with ibex, my screen keeps fading dark to bright and I was wondering if there is a way to turn this off
[17:41] <minimec> hi. I just installed a new 64bit alpha4 without formatting the old /home partition. When I login I get a black screen and nothing happens.
[18:44] <doggymenz> if i start xorg without a config file, then compiz dont work
[18:45] <Turski> maybe you should use config file then?
[18:47] <doggymenz> i dont want
[18:47] <doggymenz> config file is for 1980 computer
[18:47] <doggymenz> my computer have plug-n-play
[18:48] <Turski> :)
[18:48] <doggymenz> i thought ubuntu was a modern operating system, that you didnt have to dick around in config files, i know i didnt have to with windows 95, it just auto-detected stuff
[18:48] <Turski> and then you had to install 50 defferent drivers? is that plug-n-play?
[18:49] <doggymenz> idk
[19:04] <Klick__> Hey all, has anyone noticed that the brightness goes up and down automatialy with ibex, my screen keeps fading dark to bright and I was wondering if there is a way to turn this off
[19:42] <keanu> wow, quiet
[19:43] <keanu> i just tested 8.10, and the 2.6.26 kernels seem to cause no display to appear on my dell inspiron 1525 laptop
[19:43] <Pici> Well.. we're going to be moving to 2.6.27 shortly, so you may want to hold your breath on submitting the bug
[19:43] <keanu> k
[19:45] <keanu> I heard the startup "drums", but nothing appeared. ctrl+alt+1 caused the display to turn off for a second (normal) but no login prompt appeared
[19:52] <keanu> Another thing I noticed - I have the top nav bar (with Applications, Places, System, etc) set to autohide, and it's manually set to hide down to 1px. Whenever I hover over it, all my windows and desktop items move down with it
[19:56] <keanu> Kinda hard to explain - let me get a screenshot
[20:12] <keanu> before - http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6396/screenshotqe9.png
[20:12] <keanu> after - http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/3217/screenshot1zh1.png
[20:15] <Pici> keanu: I'd concider that a bug
[20:16] <keanu> Pici, Should I report it?
[20:27] <Pici> keanu: I would
[20:27] <keanu> Pici, Ok, thanks
[21:08] <drunkenkilla> moin
[21:08] <drunkenkilla> mache ich mit sudo apititude dist-upgrade -d nen upgrade auf die alpha?
[21:22] <dupondje> Mysql got fucked ?
[21:37] <Turski> what name i should use for alt gr in xmodmap?
[21:41] <hardy> Hi, what's the tool to change my keyboard layout in intrepid?
[21:47] <hardy_> Hi, any one answered my question how can I edit kde keyboard layout in Intrepid?
[21:48] <ikonia> hardy_: is it not the same as hardy ?
[21:48] <hardy_> ikonia: I got disconnected
[21:48] <ikonia> ?
[21:49] <ikonia> hardy_: I meant is it not the same tool/method as in hardy ?
[21:49] <hardy_> ikonia: I used to do it with kcontrol but now its not available
[21:49] <ikonia> hardy_: as in not available because the package is not available/there/broke or not there as in the method has changed
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[21:51] <hardy_> ikonia: yes both kcontrol and kde-ystemsettings are not installable, I guess broke
[21:51] <ikonia> hardy_: ok - so thats fine
[21:51] <ikonia> hardy_: does it say "package broke" ?
[21:52] <hardy_> kde-systemsettings: Depends: kcontrol but it is not installable
[21:52] <hardy_> E: Broken packages
[21:52] <ikonia> ok, so it' currently broke in intrepid
[21:52] <ikonia> thats no big deal, it's still in development
[21:54] <hardy_> ikonia: yes but I need to know how to edit the configuration file manually so I can use Intrepid
[21:55] <ikonia> doesn't kde use something like a registry ?
[21:55] <ikonia> you could always change the layout at the Xserver layout
[21:55] <ikonia> hardy_: or you could accept that tool is broke as your using a development release thats not stable
[21:57] <hardy_> ikonia: no kde uses configuration files not a registry AFAIK so it's somewhere in .kde almost. I thought I may find some one here who knows
[21:58] <ikonia> hardy_: I'm sure either #kubuntu or #kde would know
[21:58] <ikonia> hardy_: or do it in your xorg config file
[22:00] <hardy_> ikonia: the problem is it seems the kde settings override the xorg settings so I need to remove the current one first
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[22:06] <ikonia> hardy: can you not use setxkbmap to set them
[22:09] <hardy> ikonia: setxkbmap -print already displays the correct layout
[22:30] <TFrog> anyone here try the Kubuntu 8.10 alpha on a laptop?
[22:34] <RAOF> Yeah.  It worked, kinda.
[22:35] <TFrog> it's been working fair here till i got the updates in the last two days.  have had to reload and still the wireless is broke.  the broadcom i have shows the network but fails to connect
[22:35] <RAOF> Alphas, eh?
[22:35] <TFrog> i'm hoping the next alpha due to be released next week fixes it
[22:36] <RAOF> And then the 2.6.27 kernel will likely either fix it or break it again.
[22:36] <TFrog> the ubuntu 8.10 alpha wireless doesn't fail though
[22:36] <TFrog> odd
[22:36] <RAOF> Ah.  That'd be a knetworkmanager bug then, presumably.
[22:37] <RAOF> Filing bugs is of course more useful than idling on IRC :)
[22:37] <TFrog> that's what i'm suspecting.  the new knetworkmanager is having issues
[22:38] <TFrog> yeah.  but when you can't exactly trace the issue to one specific package it's not so easy.  was just curious if someone else was experiencing the same issue
[22:38] <TFrog> ty anyway RAOF
[22:39] <RAOF> TFrog: It seems you _have_ traced it to a package; knetworkmanager.
[22:40] <TFrog> could be.  i'll check on it again with some CLI investigation to narrow it down.  more than likely it is an issue with the new version of knetworkmanager.
[22:40] <TFrog> thanks again.
[22:40] <TFrog> i'm out now
[22:43] <sleepster> anyone know if ubuntu's repositories have xen 3.3
[22:44] <RAOF> Yes.
[22:44] <sleepster> do you know which repositories?
[22:44] <sleepster> I have ubuntu server 8.04
[22:45] <RAOF> Intrepid repositories.
[22:45] <sleepster> I did apt-get update
[22:45] <RAOF> The versions that you've got in Hardy (8.04) are the versions that will remain.
[22:45] <RAOF> If 3.3 isn't in there now, it won't be in there at any point.
[22:45] <RAOF> Exception: backports.
[22:46] <RAOF> That's what we mean by "stable release".  It (idealy) doesn't change.
[22:48] <sleepster> okay thanks
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[22:50] <Laney> Ooer, my numpad appears to not be functioning correctly
[22:55] <Teiseii> Anybody else experiencing problems with shutdown and reboot buttons in Intrepid ?
[22:55] <Teiseii> When I click shutdown or reboot, nothing happens
[22:56] <Teiseii> I need to use "sudo reboot" and "sudo poweroff" to get the job done
[22:56] <Teiseii> On both computers
[22:57] <sleepster> in intrepid, what's the package name for xen-3.3?
[22:57] <sleepster> I cannot find it
[22:58] <Pici> sleepster: it is not in Hardy
[22:58] <dupondje> xen-hypervisor-3.3
[22:59] <sleepster> Pici: yeah I tried intrepid, but I cannot find it :(
[23:00] <Pici> sleepster: I see xen-hypervisor-3.3, xen-utils-3.3, and xen-docs-3.3 here
[23:00] <Laney> Teiseii: Yes, everyone
[23:01] <sleepster> thanks
[23:01] <sleepster> actually I forgot to append 'universe' to my repository entry
[23:01] <Teiseii> Laney: Thanks for the info :)
[23:02] <Laney> Teiseii: In return, can you see if your number pad works for me please?
[23:03] <Teiseii> When I activate numlock and press J I get number 1, K for 2 etc.
[23:03] <Teiseii> Let me see if it works on regular keyboard
[23:03] <Laney> Hang on, I've just seen something that might be related in the release notes
[23:04] <Laney> let me restart my session
[23:04] <Pici> Numlock works for me if I enable it on my thinkpad here
[23:04] <Teiseii> I have ThinkPad too
[23:04] <Teiseii> T60
[23:05] <Teiseii> 798465410
[23:05] <Teiseii> Yes, numpad on external keyboard works as well
[23:05] <hardy> Pici, Teiseii, for me the arrow keys don't work in kubuntu ;)
[23:06] <Pici> Teiseii: T60 here too
[23:06] <Teiseii> Arrow keys don't work huh ? I had similar problem but I changed some stuff in keyboard options and got them work again
[23:07] <Teiseii> Or do you mean those arrow keys in numpad ?
[23:07] <Laney> xev sees 1-4,7-9 correctly but not 0 or 5 which both send a FocusOut event apparently
[23:07] <Teiseii> hardy: Which arrow keys do you mean ?
[23:07] <Laney> but none of the numbers come up when I type them
[23:07] <Teiseii> Laney do you have numlock on ?
[23:08] <Laney> Yes
[23:08] <Laney> (as xev sees them right)
[23:08] <hardy> Teiseii: the UP-DOWN arrows in the keyboard, does it work for you?
[23:09] <UnNaturalHigh> if I just wanted to use the kernel from intrepid and I have added the repository and pinned it, would 'sudo apt-get install -t intrepid linux-image-2.6.26-5-generic' work or do I need additional packages?
[23:09] <Teiseii> hardy: Yes
[23:09] <Pici> Is the mouse moving when you press the arrow keys?
[23:09] <hardy> Pici: no
[23:09] <Pici> hm
[23:10] <hardy> Pici: I am not in gnome, which works properly but if I launced kvm from gnome, the arrow keys don't work either in the quest OS
[23:10] <hardy> s/not/now
[23:10] <Teiseii> My Keyboard model is "Evdev-managed keyboard" ... according to System -> Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layouts
[23:10] <Teiseii> Other options don't work well
[23:10] <hardy> Teiseii: what's that Evdev-managed?
[23:11] <Teiseii> hardy: No idea, but it works the best
[23:11] <Teiseii> All buttons work
[23:11] <Teiseii> hardy: If you see that option there, try it :)
[23:12] <hardy> Teiseii: it's already set to that
[23:12] <Teiseii> Hmm
[23:12] <hardy> Teiseii: did you use kvm before?
[23:12] <hardy> or qemu
[23:12] <Teiseii> I'm not sure because I don't know what they are
[23:13] <Laney> Haha, I'd accidently turned on mouse keys somehow
[23:13]  * Laney is an idiot
[23:13] <Teiseii> Hehe
[23:14] <Teiseii> But the poweroff/reboot button issue is a real thing :)
[23:21] <hardy> Teiseii: yes I am also facing poweroff issues
[23:24] <sw> hi, just installed intrepid alpha 4.. my intel iwl3945 doesn't see my WPA AP.. is this a known problem ?
[23:47] <bluesmoke> anyone noticing a massive regression in performance and stability with the intel driver in intrepid? I'm using an X3100
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[23:56] <Ro1> hey everyone
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