=== maco_ is now known as maco [01:35] crimsun and i can't get launchpad to display bugs where field.importance=Unknown always no matches on the search (he says 1 result if he tells it to show duplicates)...anyone else seeing that? [01:58] maco,can you paste your URL lhere? [01:59] (maco and I are being kicked out of a cafe, but we'll be back shortly) [01:59] https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?search=Search&field.status=New&field.importance=Unknown <-- manually [02:00] from "advanced search" --> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=&orderby=-importance&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.importance%3Alist=UNKNOWN&assignee_option=any&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.bug_supervisor=&field.bug_commenter=&field.subscriber=&field.component-empty-marker=1&field.status_upstream-empty-marker=1&field.omit_dupes.used=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch.used=&field.has_cve.used=&field.tag=&field.t [02:00] brb [02:00] maco, you are running edge.launchpad.net [02:01] but same thing on launchpad.net === maco_ is now known as maco [02:09] back [02:09] maco, I cannot find any bug with Importance "Unknown" [02:10] but they should exist...right? [02:11] not really... [02:11] when a bug is opened, it comes in as Undecided [02:11] doh [02:11] Unkown would have to be explicitly set [02:11] wait but what about the thing from the advanced search? [02:12] i clicked the OH [02:12] sorry, i'm being dumb [02:12] the find from advanced search allows you to select some specific thingies you want to search on [02:13] s/find/thing/ [02:13] ther may, or may not, be bugs with the selected values [02:13] right i didnt read well enough and i clicked the first capital U... importance in the advanced search, which was the problem [02:13] im sorry [02:22] no problem [02:23] guess i need not to think of it as the "capital U importance" :P [02:31] can someone with bug-control rights please mark this wishlist? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/synaptic/+bug/71314 [02:31] Launchpad bug 71314 in synaptic "GUI useability might benefit from a horizontal design rather than vertical" [Undecided,New] [02:34] maco: done [02:34] Hobbsee: thanks [02:35] Hobbsee, I guess we collided. I also marked it triaged [02:36] hggdh: probably === bcurtis is now known as bcurtiswx === ConnorImes is now known as Rocket2DMn [02:58] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.15/+bug/19749 [02:58] Launchpad bug 19749 in ubiquity "SATA HDD not recognized during Breezy Colony 4 install or Dapper Flight 3 or Edgy Eft or Feisty Fawn" [High,Confirmed] [02:59] that one is fixed in Hardy, but i can't change its status because i'm not on bug control [02:59] can someone please get it? [02:59] maco: You can always change the status? [02:59] RAOF: nope [03:00] it says im not the maintainer or bug owner and that i am thus not allowed [03:00] ive seen crimsun do it on ones where i couldn't do it though, and i think the only difference is that he's on bug control [03:00] To change the priority, but you should be able to change the status. [03:00] nope [03:01] You are not the bug assignee nor the maintainer of initramfs-tools (Ubuntu), and therefore cannot edit this bug's status. [03:01] maco: are you logged in? [03:01] maco, you *are* logged in to LP, right? [03:01] :-/ i *was* [03:01] LOL [03:02] doh [03:02] im blaming that thing where edge and not-edge dont share cookies and then you sometimes have to login twice [03:02] yes, probable [03:37] i wish people were a bit less clueless about triaging bugs. when someone reports a kernel team member's ppa fixes a suspend problem, that is not information we want to discard! [03:43] i certainly wouldn't have any idea that someone was a kernel team member, though i might recognize a name as someone who is important to the project [03:49] deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/stefan-bader-canonical/ubuntu hardy main [03:50] there's a keyword in there that suggests maybe this ppa isn't quite unofficial [03:51] it is unofficial. [03:51] the definitive, authoritative archive is not a PPA. [03:51] All PPAs are inherently unofficial. Even PPAs by well known developers, as otherwise they wouldn't have put it in a PPA. [03:52] its also common to place kernel fixes in a ppa specifically to deploy proposed fixes [03:53] pwnguin: Possibly, but that in no way makes it official. Often the patches prepared as such are not fit for the official kernel for various reasons. [03:54] pwnguin: that does require clue, and bug traigers for the most part, arent' getting trained in it. [03:55] persia: the question is why official matters when fixing bugs [03:56] pwnguin: A bug is not fixed until the fix is released officially. Separately, it hardly matters where a patch can be found when finding a solution, but patches from PPAs tend to be frustrating to extract due to the variety of ways they can be applied. [03:56] In most cases, a patch to the bug is preferred, and in the specific case of the Ubuntu kernel, a pointer to a git tree is preferred (and the named developer has such a tree) [03:57] this is all much better information to provide than what I saw =( [03:58] i wish it was easier to follow the trail from ppa to source [03:59] That's inherently tricky based on the implementation of PPAs (and perhaps based on the very nature of PPAs). [05:33] good morning === mcas_away is now known as mcas === dholbach_ is now known as dholbach === mcas is now known as mcas_away [13:14] How come I'm seeing Bug Buddy? I thought we killed that in favour of Apport === asac_ is now known as asac === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak === bcurtis is now known as bcurtiswx === ara_ is now known as ara === mcas_away is now known as mcas [14:23] hello folks [14:26] sbeattie: somebody told me they wanted to run a session with you at Ubuntu Developer Week - is that still planned? [14:34] Boo [14:46] bug 260739 , since im new to bug traige. im j/w since the bug is confirmed is there anything else as a triager that I need to do? [14:46] Launchpad bug 260739 in synaptic "[8.10] synaptic eats CPU when i use quick search" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/260739 [14:47] and apparently i can't type triage correctly twice :-X [14:53] bcurtiswx: do you have permissions to set the importance? [14:53] bcurtiswx: i can reproduce it here [14:53] bcurtiswx: which version of synaptic do you use? [14:53] pedro_ I do not, I am semi-new to triage and am waiting for a while until i apply to the ubuntu community [14:54] bcurtiswx: alright, can you assign it to mvo then? I'll set the importance for you [14:54] pedro_ 0.62.1ubuntu8 [14:54] mvo? sorry if thats a dumb question [14:55] bcurtiswx: michael vogt, the maintainer [14:55] yeah i use the same version here [14:56] before setting to triaged, why cannot you, bcurtiswx, reproduce this bug? [14:56] 8.10 does not restart [14:56] i can, i just didn't have the necessary steps to reproduce.. should i make note of this in there? [14:56] iqson716: its a know bug [14:57] with 1000 of duplicates [14:57] bcurtiswx: yes [14:57] bdrung: solved? [14:58] iqson716: not yet. have a look at bug #250506 [14:58] Launchpad bug 250506 in consolekit "shutdown and restart act as logout" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/250506 [14:59] pedro_ i've assigned to mvo. [14:59] pedro_ thank you for your help [14:59] bcurtiswx: thanks you [15:24] im presuming theres a bug number for firefox 3.0.1 crashing repeatedly because of flash? [15:24] i dont know much about this subject other than its only really just started to irritate me, and im sure this is a non unique problem [15:26] snadge: do you have libflashsupport installed? (and hvea i asked you that before?) [15:26] i have heard that this is apparently a problem in firefox, and that it has been fixed in their svn [15:26] i will check [15:26] how do i show which version is installed? [15:27] apt-cache policy [15:27] 1.9-0ubuntu2~hardy1+really0ubuntu1 [15:27] remove it - it causes crashes. [15:27] (among other things) [15:27] that blows.. does flash still work afterwards or not? [15:28] yeah [15:29] ok this must be the same for my hardy system at work then [15:36] Hobbsee: it was installed on my work pc as well.. why? :P [15:37] no idea [15:37] where does it come from.. looks like from hardy-backports [15:37] was probably a dep of something [15:37] yeah, i'd say so [15:37] i dont' think it's been a problem prior to hardy / intrepid. [15:38] * Hobbsee --> bed [15:38] nasty.. thanks for that, what an ass saver.. cheers :P [15:40] Could someone take a quick look at this valgrind log and let me know if it's any good (so I can mark the bug triaged)? http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17060867/valgrind.log [15:44] I can't lunck to tty# [15:44] **launch [15:45] lunch** :-p [15:46] Anyone able to look at http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17060867/valgrind.log ? Just to make sure debug symbols are there, and that it actually caught an error. It looks ok to me, but I'm not too sure what I'm looking for. [15:59] hi i need some help with bug 261155 [15:59] Launchpad bug 261155 in ubuntu "it doesn't intall in any way's" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/261155 [15:59] and bug 261154 [15:59] Launchpad bug 261154 in ubuntu "it doesn't intall in any (dup-of: 261155)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/261154 [15:59] ah ok someone was faster :-) [16:19] Hew, you can look for unresolved symbols -- they will be shown as at 0x....... ??? [16:20] if you see the ???, then this points to an unresolved symbol. It may, or may not, be important. [16:22] hggdh: Yes, there are some pairs of ???, but it doesn't have the (in *.so/*.c) that the rest do. Does this mean these are unresolvable? [16:46] bdrung: available? [16:48] LaserJock: yes [16:48] bdrung: aweseom [16:48] I'm wanting to get matplotlib finished off [16:49] bdrung: have you heard anything from Debian about getting the changes uploaded? [16:49] no [16:50] the mails are waiting in my incoming mail box. i will answer them this week. [16:51] I was a tad confused by the changelog where it looked like you were using tkagg for the frontend, but then put python-gtk first in the Depends [16:52] hm [16:53] pedro_: ping [16:53] the emails I got from Sandro seem to indicate that maybe we should just use gtkagg as default add something in the Readme about some issues it has [16:54] good idea. [16:54] bdrung: do you mind if handle the merge? [16:55] i or you? [16:55] I, sorry [16:55] youre welcome [16:55] bdmurray: hello [16:55] bdrung: k, thanks [16:56] pedro_: Could you look at bug 257450 - the reporter has narrowed it down to a gnome package not allowing him to have a usable desktop anymore [16:56] Launchpad bug 257450 in linux "Intrepid Ibex Alpha 3 20080812 updates freeze Thinkpad R31" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/257450 [16:57] LaserJock: the debdiff i appended to bug #246408 does not change anything that is related to the ubuntu default backend change. [16:57] Launchpad bug 246408 in matplotlib "Please merge matplotlib 0.98.3-3 from Debian/unstable" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/246408 [16:57] bdmurray: ok, I'll take a look to it [16:58] bdrung: ok [16:58] pedro_: great, thanks! [17:11] pedro_, bdmurray: are we confirmed to be immune to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=496125 ? [17:11] Debian bug 496125 in libxml2 "libxml2: security fix does double free / segfaults (breaks Gnome apps)" [Grave,Open] [17:11] I was having a look yesterday, but I couldn't prove it [17:12] I was assuming that as we hadn't had a huge problem with it we weren't affected though [17:14] james_w: looking [17:15] bdmurray: what about some bug-related sessions at Ubuntu Developer Week? ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDeveloperWeek/Prep ) - "Ask Our Bugmaster" or something like that? :-) [17:16] dholbach: oh, I didn't realize it was so soon. [17:16] I mailed everybody weeks ago :) [17:16] dholbach: I'll make sure we, the qa team, have some stuff there [17:16] "Ask Brian" or "Greasemonkey'ing Launchpad" or "pylpbugs hacks in 5 minutes"? [17:17] dholbach: Yeah, I was thinking there are enough gm scripts that might be worth covering some [17:17] bdmurray: if you like to have a slot on the schedule just take it - if you'd prefer another one I'm sure we can find a way to swap one [17:18] james_w: seems so , i cannot reproduce the crash with the files pointed at the report [17:18] the gorillas and wasp ones [17:19] thanks a lot bdmurray - maybe one of your teammates has another great idea what they'd like to talk about :) [17:19] I'll clear out now - have a nice day and see you tomorrow [17:19] james_w: I was thinking about querying the db for the part of the stack trace [17:19] pedro_: good to know. [17:23] Any ideas what to query for though? [17:25] bdmurray: I'm not sure, sorry. [17:26] xmlParseEntityDecl might catch something [17:26] but I don't think it would catch all symptoms of this problem [18:18] Hew, sorry for the delay -- they may not be critical. You can add the valgrind run in, ,and wait for what a maintainer will say [18:19] hggdh: Yea, I've triaged the issue, so no doubt someone will tell me off if it's not what they're looking for :P. Thanks for your response. [20:11] james_w: still around? [20:19] bdmurray: yup [20:20] james_w: so I've a patch for that bzr logger issue in bug 260515, I was wondering what you think of it. I've tested it and know it works, just curious if what I did seems best. [20:20] Launchpad bug 260515 in python-launchpad-bugs "odd message when running py-lp-b with bzr version 1.6rc3" [Low,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/260515 [20:24] bdmurray: I'm not sure, sorry. [20:24] I don't really understand the problem [20:24] the patch won't break anything, but I don't really get why it works [20:26] ah, I guess the file is opened on demand, so that should work as long as you never cause any warnings [20:26] As I understand it bzrlib.trace tries to go to ~/.bzr.log, so by using be_quiet() messages will be surpressed unless it is something important [20:26] s/go to/log to/ [20:27] yeah [20:27] you might still want the enable_default_logging call, so that if something causes a warning it will be logged so you can see it [20:27] That makes sense I'll do that too then, thanks! [20:51] pedro_: did you get my mail about that forums thread? [20:58] jcastro: the one that said Brian? :-P [21:01] pedro_: hah yeah. :D [21:02] pedro_: at the last minute I thought I might send it to you instead of him. It was early in the morning. [21:02] well hmph [21:02] jcastro: hah ok I'll have a look and let you know ;-) [21:02] bdmurray: if I would have written you you would have said "I wrote a script for that last weekend" and that wouldn't be fun [21:03] heh [21:03] lol [21:05] bdmurray: why would a bugwatch be a mailto: address? https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/258543/+watch/45668 [21:05] Launchpad bug 258543 in xfce4 "[8.04.1 i18n] bad translation in xubuntu menu ("eines" instead of "ferramentes")" [Low,Triaged] [21:05] sbeattie: because they don't have a bts? [21:06] does that do anything useful? [21:06] Nope [21:07] sbeattie: because I forwarded the bug to an upstream translator [21:07] It is a way of recording work done but Launchpad doesn't do anything special with it [21:09] bdmurray: okay. then you might want to filter that out of your unlinked bug watches list. [21:09] sbeattie: that'll be interesting thanks [21:25] mysql is broken in intrepid ? [21:27] how is the latest RC of intrepid in terms of bugs and what not? [21:27] really bugged :P [21:27] I'm having no issues with it [21:28] well that's two contradictory statements :P [21:28] i'm running the latest w/ complete uupdates in vm w/ no problems [21:28] use it every day [21:28] sweet [21:29] from what i've read the improvements they're gonna implement are quite nice [21:30] I wasn't aware we had an RC yet? :-) [21:31] ah my bad [21:31] alpha [21:31] or whatever the terminology is [21:33] I'm using Intrepid for every-day use but have a backup install "just in case" :-) [21:34] mysql got fucked here :s [21:34] for some reason :s [21:35] Starting mysqld daemon with databases from /var/lib/mysql [21:35] mysqld_safe[11053]: started [21:35] STOPPING server from pid file /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid [21:35] mysqld_safe[11059]: ended [21:35] shutdowns directly :s [21:36] and has anyone tried the installation from usb? [21:37] i did it in hardy heron, but the fstab got messed up somehow because of it, so the computer wouldn't mount cdroms once i got the system up and running [21:38] really, who uses cdroms nowadays? if you have a computer without usb it's too old to use anyway :P [21:39] pfft [21:40] * LaserJock is still using floppies [21:42] LaserJock: me too. 5-1/4 ones make a cool decoration. [21:42] heh [21:42] mine are used for data collection [21:43] had to get an external floppy drive though because the newer machines don't have internal drives [21:47] not to mention the fact that the floppies manufactured today suck quality-wise since nobody buys them anyway === mcas is now known as mcas_away [22:07] can't even use mythtv anymore now mysql is fucked :( [22:09] 6 bug reports :s [22:10] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.0/+bug/260703 [22:10] Launchpad bug 260703 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "Problem upgrading to mysql-server_5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1" [Undecided,Confirmed] [22:10] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.0/+bug/260298 [22:10] Launchpad bug 260298 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "mysql-dfsg-5.0 fail to install" [Undecided,New] [22:10] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.0/+bug/260264 [22:10] Launchpad bug 260264 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "install of mysql-server and mysql-server-5.0 did not complete properly" [Undecided,New] [22:10] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.0/+bug/210813 [22:10] Launchpad bug 210813 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "package mysql-server-5.0 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,New] [22:10] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.0/+bug/237630 [22:11] Launchpad bug 237630 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "package mysql-server-5.0 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 - fails due to AppArmor" [Undecided,Incomplete] [22:11] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.0/+bug/239144 [22:11] Launchpad bug 239144 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "package mysql-server-5.0 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Undecided,Incomplete] [22:11] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.0/+bug/247795 [22:11] Launchpad bug 247795 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "package mysql-server 5.0.51a-3ubuntu5.2 failed to install/upgrade: Abhängigkeitsprobleme - lasse es unkonfiguriert" [Undecided,Incomplete] [22:11] lol :D [22:11] something bugged [22:11] dupondje: you can just do bug # [22:12] dupondje: So why don't you go mark them all as duplicates (if they are, of course)? :) [22:12] because atm i'm searching how to fix it :) [22:12] cause its quite crap :s [22:19] marked duplicates :) [22:20] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.0/+bug/187442 [22:20] Launchpad bug 187442 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "package mysql-server-5.0 5.0.45-1ubuntu3.1 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Low,Triaged] [22:23] is there a ppa for mysql ? [22:25] mysql is on launchpad [22:27] mmm [22:27] seems there is a newer version for mysql in repo's [22:27] but not for amd64 [22:27] :s [22:43] ping tseliot [22:46] Ampelbein: yes? [22:46] tseliot: Regarding bug #260867, you set it to triaged for the nvidia-task. what should i do now about the xorg-task? don't we need more information? [22:46] Launchpad bug 260867 in xorg "Bad video signal after upgrading to Interpid" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/260867 [22:47] Ampelbein: no, sorry, it's something we have to deal with but we haven't decided how yet [22:48] Ampelbein: you can mark it as invalid for xorg [22:48] tseliot: ok, thanks for the info. [22:50] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.0/+bug/261066 [22:50] check ... [22:50] Launchpad bug 261066 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "mysql-server 5.0.67-0ubuntu1 not starts" [Undecided,Confirmed] [22:50] solution @ end [23:08] dupondje, I have mysql and mysql-common at 5.0.67 [23:09] hum, but just the meta [ackage [23:10] indeed [23:10] ftbfs? === _neversfelde is now known as neversfelde