| fta | asac, did you make any progress with the plan to run mozilla tests since UDS ? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| asac | no ... except that everyone else wants to do it ;) | 00:01 |
| asac | however, i dont consider that a feature that is bound to feature freeze | 00:02 |
| fta | ok | 00:06 |
| asac | whatever we get up should be doable. i dont think that everything that requires hardware will be realistic to do | 00:07 |
| asac | our test center currently undergoes heavy restructuring | 00:07 |
| asac | and the team was moved to the distro team. so once they have finished that we probably can use their resources | 00:07 |
| asac | yay ... flash detection kit detection works ;) | 00:08 |
| asac | also on youtube ;) | 00:08 |
| asac | no i have hope that all this might really work | 00:08 |
| fta | what was it all about ? | 00:09 |
| asac | fta: making the "missing plugins ..." thing appear when a website tries to be smart and uses flash detection kit to not get the puzzle | 00:13 |
| fta | ok, good | 00:14 |
| fta | could that be used to swap flash plugins at runtime ? (ie gnash -> nonfree) | 00:14 |
| asac | fta: well. what we do at runtime is to display a plugin icon in the status bar. when you selec that you can change the plugin. which hopefully will work at runtime | 00:19 |
| asac | fta: the anti flash-detection-kit is used to trigger the plugin finder so provide users with the best user experience | 00:20 |
| asac | e.g. dont get to adobes website, but to the plugin finder wizard | 00:20 |
| asac | both together make a good proportion of the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashExperienceIntrepid spec | 00:20 |
| asac | hmm ... so how can i dispatch an event globally easily :/ | 00:23 |
| asac | ok globally is wrong ... i have to figure from which document that event comes from | 00:34 |
| asac | err event ... invocation ;) | 00:34 |
| asac | hairy | 00:43 |
| asac | and scary ;) | 00:43 |
| asac | ok letse hope that http://paste.ubuntu.com/40291/ is a good way ;) | 00:53 |
| asac | to get our event target from JSStack | 00:54 |
| fta | i'm too out of this code to be of any help | 00:56 |
| asac | i know .... its just talking to my self ;) | 00:56 |
| asac | not sure why though | 00:56 |
| fta | i'm currently writing unit tests for my stuff, scratching my head to find good tests, and while doing so, i found a nasty bug | 00:57 |
| asac | oh ;) | 00:57 |
| asac | well. usually the bugs you discover are the more interesting ones ,) | 00:57 |
| asac | its always impressive how much code there is in firefox ;) | 00:59 |
| asac | .. code you havent seen before though you were sure you looked at almost everything ;) | 01:00 |
| asac | i thought i always understood how all this JSContext things worked ... but now that I want to rip the guts out of it i dont find the places so i can verify the theory i had in mind | 01:00 |
| asac | i think thats probably because most backports i did that required to guess which scoped called a function were for the 1.7 branch ... and now things have changed considerably | 01:02 |
| asac | more macros :( | 01:02 |
| fta | some parts are awfully complex and not doing much. looks like code piled up for years | 01:05 |
| fta | yeah, i fixed my bug. | 01:06 |
| fta | unit tests are good for me | 01:06 |
| asac | right. actually thats why i signed up for mozilla stuff ... see how a large code base evolves and gets improved over time | 01:08 |
| asac | fta: the craziest refactoring will be the death of nsCOMPtr ;) | 01:08 |
| asac | which benjamin plans to do at some point | 01:08 |
| asac | e.g. making everything garbage collected ... aka no ref counting anymore | 01:09 |
| fta | i thought it was ready, that's why i started the moz2 branches, but it never happened | 01:09 |
| asac | i asked him during summit and he said its likely post moz2 | 01:09 |
| fta | lol | 01:09 |
| asac | far too intrusive ;) | 01:10 |
| fta | that was supposed to be the whole point of moz2 | 01:10 |
| asac | but he managed to get a first pitch done | 01:10 |
| fta | be intrusive | 01:10 |
| asac | with not too much manual tranformation | 01:10 |
| asac | producing 100M diffs ;) | 01:10 |
| asac | fta: there is no moz2 branch anymore, is there? | 01:11 |
| fta | correct | 01:11 |
| asac | maybe they will go for 1.9.2 1.9.3 ;) ... who knows | 01:11 |
| asac | so maybe moz2 will indeed have that. its just _far_ away | 01:12 |
| fta | or if there is, it's in ~users | 01:12 |
| asac | my guess is that the shorter release cycle they go for now, will make intrusive changes even less likely | 01:13 |
| asac | too much new features land that constantly would need to be side merged to a long diverged branch | 01:13 |
| asac | except that you can constantly work on a refactoring tool ... and then at some point do the migration all at once | 01:14 |
| asac | without breaking a 9 month release cycle ;) | 01:14 |
| fta | i would like to see CSS3 and SVG1.1 complete, and some HTML5, before they start breaking everything | 01:14 |
| asac | otoh, breaking trunk for ages isnt good for "normal" contributors either | 01:14 |
| asac | true | 01:15 |
| asac | ha | 01:18 |
| asac | i found it ;) | 01:18 |
| asac | nsContentUtils has the "GetDocumentOfCaller" convenience function | 01:18 |
| asac | good that i didnt give up and copy the code i found elsewhere ;) | 01:18 |
| asac | http://paste.ubuntu.com/40295/ | 01:19 |
| asac | ok i need FromCaller i guess ;) | 01:20 |
| asac | err, Context i mean | 01:21 |
| fta | ok, I call it a day. I need some sleep | 01:26 |
| fta | night | 01:26 |
| asac | sleep well | 01:28 |
| XioNoX | Hi ! | 09:01 |
| XioNoX | asac ? | 10:00 |
| asac | XioNoX: oh sorry. didnt look in this window ;) | 10:27 |
| asac | XioNoX: how are you? | 10:27 |
| XioNoX | asac, fine :D | 10:28 |
| XioNoX | asac, and you ? good weekend ? | 10:28 |
| asac | more or less :-D | 10:29 |
| XioNoX | so, what can I do for my last day of internship ? | 10:29 |
| asac | XioNoX: i fixed the xulrunner patch (to select thedefault plugin by pref) | 10:29 |
| asac | ... the backend ... | 10:30 |
| XioNoX | ok | 10:30 |
| XioNoX | so I have to compile it again ? | 10:30 |
| asac | XioNoX: when you want to test it yes. | 10:30 |
| asac | XioNoX: otherwise, just cleanup your wizard thing. | 10:30 |
| asac | let me know when ready ;( | 10:30 |
| asac | ;) | 10:30 |
| XioNoX | it is clean now | 10:30 |
| XioNoX | but there are 2 bugs | 10:31 |
| asac | XioNoX: oh. good | 10:31 |
| XioNoX | :( | 10:31 |
| asac | which ` | 10:31 |
| asac | ? | 10:31 |
| XioNoX | first,the overlay thing don't seem to give all the mimetypes present on the page to the window | 10:32 |
| asac | you sure? | 10:33 |
| XioNoX | secondly, it seam that the overlay save the mimetypes on the same array, but I'm not sure | 10:33 |
| asac | well ... it gives you the mimetypes of those that have a plugin installed ... e.g. if you dont have a plugin for video/avi you wont see it | 10:33 |
| XioNoX | not at 100% but it seam to | 10:33 |
| gnomefreak | good morning | 10:34 |
| asac | hi gnomefreak | 10:34 |
| XioNoX | morning ! | 10:34 |
| asac | XioNoX: i dont understand secondly | 10:34 |
| asac | ;) | 10:34 |
| asac | XioNoX: at best push that thing up so i can test it | 10:35 |
| * gnomefreak really hates when things fix themselves | 10:35 | |
| asac | gnomefreak: why ... thats good ;) | 10:35 |
| * asac would like to see everything getting fixed on their own | 10:35 | |
| gnomefreak | asac: knowing the problem would help | 10:35 |
| gnomefreak | its fixed ;) | 10:36 |
| asac | true. but if its gone, there is no problem anymore ,)+ | 10:36 |
| XioNoX | asac, Pushed up to revision 102. | 10:37 |
| gnomefreak | asac: true now i shoudl run lintain on it before pushing to reve i guess | 10:39 |
| * gnomefreak though lintian is run on *_source.changes | 10:41 | |
| gnomefreak | thought | 10:41 |
| asac | XioNoX: ok. what we want to do is to look at the name of the plugins | 10:48 |
| XioNoX | It is what I've done | 10:48 |
| XioNoX | no ? | 10:48 |
| asac | and if its either "Shockwave Flash" or "Shockwave Flash 2" ... or "Windows Media Player Plug-in 10" | 10:49 |
| asac | (if it starst like that) ... then use the description | 10:49 |
| asac | instead of the name | 10:49 |
| asac | for the other mime-types the name should be fine | 10:49 |
| asac | (ill fix the description of gnash, which is just ridiculous= | 10:49 |
| XioNoX | I don't understand | 10:49 |
| asac | XioNoX: dont use the name, but the description | 10:51 |
| asac | if they have one of the names abover | 10:51 |
| asac | (to be exact, if the names start with the names above)= | 10:51 |
| asac | install gnash and you will see | 10:52 |
| asac | it has the same name and we cannot change it | 10:52 |
| asac | thus we need to display the description | 10:52 |
| gnomefreak | maybe dpatch wanted me to patch rules insteaad of make changes to it :( | 10:53 |
| asac | XioNoX: if you dont have gnash in about:plugins do: | 10:58 |
| asac | sudo ln -s /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/ | 10:59 |
| asac | once you see both flashs there you will see what i mean in the wizard | 10:59 |
| asac | XioNoX: once you have that we can get to the second bug ;).... if you select a drop down it appears to always use the first menu entry | 11:00 |
| asac | once that is fixed, it should be usable ;) | 11:00 |
| asac | XioNoX: and third, for the "not all mime-types displayed", we have http://paste.ubuntu.com/40389/ | 11:10 |
| asac | which basically resets the array on each and every event | 11:10 |
| asac | XioNoX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/40390/ (<- patch for "third" issue) | 11:12 |
| gnomefreak | we should really add a search for revu | 11:16 |
| asac | XioNoX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | 11:22 |
| asac | thats the fix including the 2nd issue | 11:22 |
| asac | the rest is for you ;) | 11:22 |
| asac | also when i first click on the first of the two content types, somehow the order of the table flips | 11:23 |
| asac | causing confusion | 11:23 |
| gnomefreak | asac: someone in -motu is looking for you | 11:37 |
| asac | yeah | 11:37 |
| gnomefreak | ok just making sur eyou knew | 11:38 |
| asac | i didnt ;) | 11:38 |
| asac | but the red flash light was flashing here ... so i probably could have found out ;) | 11:38 |
| XioNoX | asac, sorry, some appartement problems | 11:41 |
| XioNoX | ok, I see, Gnash sucks | 11:42 |
| XioNoX | the best isn't to report a bug to gnash directly ? | 11:42 |
| asac | XioNoX: hey ;) | 11:43 |
| asac | thats currently not the topc | 11:43 |
| XioNoX | but the name of the gnash plugin don't have to be "shokwave flash".... | 11:43 |
| asac | XioNoX: it has to | 11:44 |
| asac | XioNoX: there is not choice | 11:44 |
| asac | XioNoX: we need to use the description for flash and the microsoft mime-type above | 11:44 |
| XioNoX | why ? | 11:44 |
| asac | XioNoX: because the flash detection kit uses it | 11:44 |
| asac | its used by websites to detect on whether to try to display flash at all | 11:44 |
| asac | this sucks, but thats how it is | 11:44 |
| asac | so gnash has to use exactly the same name as adobe flash | 11:45 |
| XioNoX | but the plugin's name is not the same as the description of the mimetype | 11:45 |
| asac | XioNoX: no ... not the description of the mime type -> the description of the plugin | 11:45 |
| asac | on the left side you display the description of the mime-type ... thats find | 11:45 |
| XioNoX | t has bo be like that ? | 11:45 |
| asac | fine | 11:45 |
| asac | yes. | 11:45 |
| asac | XioNoX: special case the two mime types above for now | 11:46 |
| XioNoX | ok | 11:46 |
| asac | the otherse can use the plugiun name | 11:46 |
| asac | XioNoX: i will make flash folks use a saner description that can be displayed there | 11:46 |
| asac | XioNoX: hmm ... maybe just do it for Flash | 11:46 |
| asac | dont do the microsoft thing | 11:46 |
| XioNoX | but for exemple, the video/avi can have different plugins who manage it | 11:47 |
| asac | its not worth it and the totem name at least has totem in the name | 11:47 |
| XioNoX | and with différent names... | 11:47 |
| asac | sure | 11:47 |
| asac | all fine. just use name everywhere except for flash | 11:47 |
| asac | where we have to use the description somewhat | 11:47 |
| asac | XioNoX: the following idea: | 11:48 |
| asac | display the name and in a second line the filename | 11:48 |
| asac | that would be a good compromise | 11:48 |
| asac | ;) | 11:48 |
| asac | at best even three lines: | 11:48 |
| asac | 1. name | 11:48 |
| asac | 2. filename | 11:48 |
| asac | 3. description ;) | 11:48 |
| asac | is that possible? | 11:48 |
| XioNoX | I don't know, it depend of the xbl... | 11:49 |
| XioNoX | 1 thing, you sayd : | 11:49 |
| XioNoX | <asac> at best even three lines: | 11:49 |
| XioNoX | <asac> 1. name | 11:49 |
| XioNoX | <asac> 2. filename | 11:49 |
| XioNoX | <asac> 3. description ;) | 11:49 |
| XioNoX | <asac> is that possible? | 11:49 |
| asac | XioNoX: yeah. | 11:49 |
| XioNoX | sorry | 11:49 |
| XioNoX | <asac> XioNoX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | 11:49 |
| XioNoX | <asac> thats the fix including the 2nd issue | 11:49 |
| asac | XioNoX: right. apply that patch first | 11:49 |
| asac | commit that (after removing the alerts) | 11:50 |
| asac | and then lets fix the appearence: | 11:50 |
| XioNoX | which patch ? | 11:50 |
| asac | http://paste.ubuntu.com/40394/ | 11:50 |
| XioNoX | thanks | 11:50 |
| asac | XioNoX: remove the alerts before committing | 11:50 |
| gandi | re | 11:50 |
| asac | hey | 11:50 |
| verwilst | guys | 11:55 |
| verwilst | www.tempomusic.be | 11:55 |
| verwilst | could you try this? | 11:55 |
| verwilst | it should crash when you enter the site | 11:55 |
| asac | what will happen there? | 11:55 |
| asac | verwilst: flash | 11:55 |
| verwilst | drives my girlfriend crazy | 11:55 |
| verwilst | yeah | 11:55 |
| asac | (without looking) | 11:55 |
| verwilst | could you try too? | 11:55 |
| asac | why? | 11:55 |
| verwilst | the first page works | 11:55 |
| asac | i dont even have flash installed ;) | 11:55 |
| verwilst | to see wether it's reproducible | 11:55 |
| asac | (at the moment) | 11:55 |
| verwilst | well then, a reason more to try ;) | 11:55 |
| asac | verwilst: as i said: install nspluginwrapper | 11:55 |
| verwilst | myeah.. i guess ill have to | 11:56 |
| asac | https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive | 11:56 |
| verwilst | then only nspluginwrapper will crash eh | 11:56 |
| asac | yes | 11:56 |
| asac | only the flash video that causes the pain will go down | 11:56 |
| asac | verwilst: another idea is to consider to use flashblock | 11:56 |
| asac | so your girlfriend can enable individual files she actually wants to see | 11:56 |
| asac | but most likely nspluginwrapper should be good enough | 11:57 |
| verwilst | asac: so nspluginwrapper | 11:57 |
| asac | verwilst: so 1. install nspluginwrapper 2. sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree | 11:57 |
| verwilst | that's it? | 11:57 |
| verwilst | do i need the ppa? | 11:57 |
| asac | yes | 11:57 |
| verwilst | or is it in the normal distro as well? | 11:58 |
| asac | verwilst: you can just download the nspluginwrapper deb | 11:58 |
| verwilst | what's changed there? | 11:58 |
| asac | and sudo dpkg -i it | 11:58 |
| verwilst | 1.0.0 i guess | 11:58 |
| asac | verwilst: the change is that its now avaialble for i386 as well | 11:58 |
| asac | verwilst: no ... for hardy there is 0.9.x | 11:58 |
| verwilst | ( it's flash 10.0 rc btw, but that shouldnt matter? ) | 11:58 |
| verwilst | and she will still have full sound? :) | 11:58 |
| asac | not sure. in worst case you can downgradne and install libflashsupport | 11:58 |
| asac | to get sound | 11:58 |
| verwilst | hm | 11:59 |
| asac | that should work because the flash crashes only come when you leave a website containing flash | 11:59 |
| verwilst | this whole flash situation sucks so bad :P | 11:59 |
| asac | verwilst: yeah. | 11:59 |
| verwilst | when i leave? | 11:59 |
| asac | yes. so it doesnt matter anymore that flash crashes everytime with libflashsupport with nspluginwarpper ;) | 11:59 |
| verwilst | is the libflashcrap crashing when it cleans up? | 11:59 |
| asac | you can still see the video ... when you leave the page flash will crash silently, without taking firefox down | 12:00 |
| verwilst | heh | 12:00 |
| verwilst | good stuffs.. :| | 12:00 |
| asac | give it a try | 12:00 |
| verwilst | i hope the situation is improved with intrepid? :) | 12:00 |
| asac | maybe nspluginwrapper works with 10 rc1 | 12:00 |
| asac | yes | 12:00 |
| verwilst | we'll soon find out | 12:00 |
| asac | sound will work | 12:00 |
| asac | at least thats the promise ;) | 12:00 |
| asac | if that doesnt happen i will work as hard as possible to get someones head squashed for that | 12:01 |
| XioNoX | asac, going to eat, the patch works perfectly | 12:01 |
| asac | XioNoX: right. now fix the appearence like discussed | 12:01 |
| asac | ;) | 12:01 |
| asac | enjoy your lunch | 12:01 |
| XioNoX | yep | 12:01 |
| XioNoX | thx ;) | 12:02 |
| verwilst | hm | 12:02 |
| verwilst | there is only one pool | 12:02 |
| verwilst | so which one is the hardy deb? :) | 12:02 |
| verwilst | http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nspluginwrapper/nspluginwrapper_1.0.0-0ubuntu1~mt1_i386.deb this one isnt? | 12:03 |
| verwilst | nspluginwrapper depends on libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.13.3); however: blabalbal | 12:03 |
| asac | verwilst: you can download the right pacikage from the launchpad page | 12:05 |
| asac | no need to browser the pool | 12:05 |
| asac | there are links | 12:05 |
| verwilst | hm | 12:05 |
| asac | directly on that page | 12:05 |
| verwilst | but i added the repo to my sources | 12:05 |
| verwilst | and it still errors out | 12:05 |
| asac | verwilst: thats not a good idea | 12:05 |
| asac | download the deb | 12:05 |
| verwilst | oh? :) | 12:05 |
| asac | install it | 12:05 |
| asac | i never said you should enable that repo | 12:06 |
| verwilst | it's just for the nspluginwrapper | 12:06 |
| asac | yeah | 12:06 |
| verwilst | there only is an intrepid version.. | 12:06 |
| verwilst | of 1.0.0 | 12:07 |
| verwilst | or am i blind? :) | 12:07 |
| asac | verwilst: yes you are ;) | 12:07 |
| asac | verwilst: just look at the launchpad page | 12:07 |
| asac | https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive | 12:07 |
| verwilst | i am! | 12:07 |
| verwilst | :P | 12:07 |
| asac | there are two lines | 12:07 |
| asac | ;) | 12:07 |
| verwilst | nspluginwrapper - 0.9.91.5-2ubuntu2.8.04.1~mt1 for hardy | 12:08 |
| verwilst | not 1.0.0 | 12:08 |
| asac | yeah ;) | 12:08 |
| verwilst | you said 1.0.0! :P | 12:08 |
| asac | i never said that you are looking for 1.0 | 12:08 |
| asac | no | 12:08 |
| verwilst | aaah | 12:08 |
| verwilst | i misread you | 12:08 |
| asac | 12:58 < asac> verwilst: the change is that its now avaialble for i386 as well | 12:08 |
| asac | 12:58 < asac> verwilst: no ... for hardy there is 0.9.x | 12:08 |
| asac | thats what i said | 12:08 |
| asac | no idea how you can read 1.0.0 out of that ;) | 12:08 |
| verwilst | i thought initial hardy was 0.9 :) | 12:08 |
| asac | ah, i remember ... your eyes are bad ;) | 12:08 |
| verwilst | and the ppa had 1.0.0 instead ;) | 12:09 |
| asac | yeah ... you thought :) | 12:09 |
| asac | i didnt say that ;) | 12:09 |
| asac | anyway | 12:09 |
| verwilst | hm | 12:10 |
| verwilst | how do i enable nspluginwrapper @ firefox? | 12:11 |
| verwilst | since it still crashes the browser | 12:11 |
| verwilst | dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree good as well? | 12:11 |
| asac | verwilst: --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree | 12:11 |
| verwilst | ( since i manually copied the 10.0 so | 12:12 |
| verwilst | ok ok :P | 12:12 |
| asac | verwilst: manually copied -> remove that | 12:12 |
| asac | only packages are easy to do | 12:12 |
| asac | with nspluginwrapper | 12:12 |
| asac | well you can do it manually, but i wont you support in that direction (too much work) | 12:12 |
| verwilst | it loads! | 12:13 |
| verwilst | hm, there is a nsplugin.libflashplayer.so in about:config | 12:13 |
| asac | good ;) | 12:13 |
| asac | thats right | 12:13 |
| verwilst | maybe if i find this and replace it with the 10.0 one? ;) | 12:14 |
| asac | about:plugins | 12:14 |
| asac | no | 12:14 |
| asac | that doesnt work | 12:14 |
| verwilst | yeah plugins | 12:14 |
| asac | just stick to flash 9 | 12:14 |
| verwilst | :P | 12:14 |
| asac | no reason for 10 yet | 12:14 |
| verwilst | but i dont wanna! *puppy face* | 12:14 |
| verwilst | ok :) ill install libcrapsupport again too | 12:14 |
| asac | yeah ... load your system full with shit ;) | 12:15 |
| verwilst | what's the fix in intrepid? | 12:15 |
| asac | put crap beneath a load of shit to make it worse, but then make it better by providing a wrapper :) | 12:15 |
| verwilst | hehe | 12:16 |
| asac | verwilst: no time to go into details today. ask me after feature freeze ;) | 12:16 |
| verwilst | ok | 12:16 |
| verwilst | in 4 words then? | 12:16 |
| verwilst | :D | 12:16 |
| asac | as armin76 would say: "bumb!" ;) | 12:16 |
| verwilst | euh :P | 12:17 |
| asac | bumb everything everywhere + make nspluginwrapper the default (not because of the sound crashes) | 12:17 |
| asac | armin76 can surely explain how to do the mega-bumb :) | 12:17 |
| verwilst | wth is bumb :P | 12:18 |
| verwilst | anyways, the site loads, and i have sound everywhere! | 12:18 |
| verwilst | jaj! | 12:18 |
| asac | congrats | 12:18 |
| asac | welcome to the brave new world of flash-remangled ;) | 12:19 |
| verwilst | so intrepid has flash + sound + crashlessness out of the box ? :) | 12:19 |
| asac | verwilst: at least the crashes wont be in firefox i hope ;) | 12:19 |
| asac | and sound might just be broken on the alsa/kernel level :) | 12:20 |
| asac | crimsun is working on fixing all the nice sound bugs :) | 12:20 |
| asac | well ... not from the packaging perspective ;) | 12:20 |
| verwilst | go crimsun! | 12:20 |
| verwilst | anyways, thanks for the nspluginwrapper tip asac | 12:21 |
| asac | np ... keep it tested ;) | 12:21 |
| verwilst | it will have made my gf's day ;) | 12:21 |
| armin76 | lol | 12:23 |
| armin76 | buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumb | 12:23 |
| asac | here we go ;) armin76 woke up | 12:23 |
| verwilst | armin76: care to explain bumb? :) | 12:47 |
| armin76 | lol | 12:48 |
| armin76 | verwilst: ppl always request "version bump", sometimes ppl misspell it with dump, bumb, dumb | 12:48 |
| verwilst | heh :P | 12:51 |
| verwilst | and what exactly was changed wrt flash sound/crash issues in intrepid? asac doesnt have time to explain | 12:51 |
| verwilst | ;) | 12:51 |
| asac_ | fta: i think sispoty asked you something on motu-council about your vision of motu vs. mozillateam | 13:28 |
| asac_ | did you get that mail? if so please ask him to forward it to you so you can reply | 13:29 |
| asac_ | sispoty == Stefan Potyra | 13:29 |
| === asac_ is now known as asac | ||
| thunderstruck | asac: how would i go about getting rid of the native package warning/error? | 13:50 |
| === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak | ||
| asac | gnomefreak: you need to be sure that you have an orig.tar.gz and a diff.gz | 14:08 |
| gnomefreak | asac: i dont think i did since i used svn but thanks ill look at it later i have to meet up with my lawyer soon | 14:16 |
| gnomefreak | yep just upstream dir. and the packages that i built and .diff isnt one of them for some reason i guess since there was no upstream tarball that could be why. maybe i should tar up the upstream dir that way i have atleast a tarball and dpkg should build a diff with that. ill work on it later today. | 14:21 |
| gnomefreak | looks like a mix of clients | 14:23 |
| gnomefreak | ok play with that later maybe make it easy to stradle servers, later guys/gals | 14:24 |
| XioNoX | back ;) | 14:35 |
| XioNoX | asac, I've pushed you patch | 14:50 |
| asac | XioNoX: good | 14:51 |
| asac | XioNoX: ok. now fix the description thing ... try to make the menu items "multi-line" | 14:53 |
| XioNoX | ok an fix the "director" bug | 14:54 |
| XioNoX | which show an empty label for missing plugins | 14:55 |
| XioNoX | and whow at least the mimetype | 14:55 |
| XioNoX | asac, I was trying to fix an non exixting bug... | 15:08 |
| XioNoX | asac, in this page : http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/welcome/ | 15:08 |
| XioNoX | the window get an empty mimetype | 15:08 |
| XioNoX | ,application/x-shockwave-flash : see the "," | 15:09 |
| XioNoX | asac, I dont think that we can easily new lines :/ | 15:18 |
| asac | XioNoX: cant we filter mime-types that are emtpy? | 15:34 |
| asac | and just forget about them? | 15:34 |
| asac | jdstrand: welcome back ;) | 15:34 |
| asac | jdstrand: uploads to -security that get pocket copied apparently dont have -dbgsym packages ... is that known? | 15:35 |
| asac | jdstrand: quite unfortunate as we now dont have any dbg package sfor the current ones at all ;) | 15:35 |
| asac | (not your fault ... just curious if that is known) | 15:37 |
| jdstrand | asac: hi! thanks | 15:38 |
| jdstrand | asac: it is not known to me | 15:38 |
| jdstrand | asac: I'll look into it | 15:38 |
| asac | hmm. ok we probably need to wait for pitti to come back, or? | 15:38 |
| asac | jdstrand: you can look into it? wow. that would be fantastic | 15:38 |
| jdstrand | asac: well, I am not saying I am going to fix it, just get information on the situation ;) | 15:39 |
| asac | jdstrand: rock | 15:40 |
| asac | fta_: i bounced the question from sispoty to you | 15:45 |
| asac | maybe answer to that ;) | 15:45 |
| XioNoX | asac, done | 15:47 |
| asac | XioNoX: good. | 15:48 |
| asac | XioNoX: so description for Shockwave done too? | 15:48 |
| XioNoX | using description whereas plugin name ? | 15:49 |
| asac | yes | 15:49 |
| XioNoX | only for flash ? | 15:49 |
| asac | yes ... only if the Name starts with "Shockwave Flash" | 15:49 |
| XioNoX | in the "content" part or the "plugin" dropbox ? | 15:51 |
| asac | XioNoX: he? | 15:51 |
| asac | in the right column ... both in the cell as well as the menu I would say | 15:52 |
| * asac reboots | 15:53 | |
| XioNoX | ok | 15:53 |
| XioNoX | asac, done | 16:02 |
| asac | XioNoX: the order still flips if you click on the first item in list | 16:05 |
| asac | XioNoX: further, i still had an empty type in the list | 16:05 |
| asac | what is the revision you committed/pushed? | 16:05 |
| XioNoX | sorry, nothing pushed | 16:05 |
| asac | ah | 16:06 |
| asac | ok | 16:06 |
| XioNoX | but what can I do for the flips ? | 16:06 |
| asac | XioNoX: not sure. i think its because you remove and insert all | 16:06 |
| asac | look at the code. there must be a reason | 16:06 |
| asac | ok out for 20 minutes or so | 16:07 |
| asac | running some errands | 16:07 |
| XioNoX | ok ok no problem ;) | 16:09 |
| asac | back | 16:23 |
| XioNoX | just pushed | 16:28 |
| XioNoX | but can't fix the bug about switch elements | 16:29 |
| * asac looks | 16:32 | |
| asac | XioNoX: i think the flip is because the columns are not sorted | 16:43 |
| asac | look at the applications tab | 16:43 |
| asac | both columns are sortable and by default the first is sorted | 16:43 |
| XioNoX | asac, well done ;) | 16:54 |
| XioNoX | sortDirection="ascending" | 16:54 |
| XioNoX | and it work ! | 16:54 |
| asac | rock ;) | 16:54 |
| XioNoX | push ? | 16:55 |
| asac | why not ;) | 16:55 |
| XioNoX | bandwich preservation ? :) | 16:55 |
| asac | on your side? | 16:55 |
| asac | ;) | 16:55 |
| XioNoX | on the poor lanchpad servers :) | 16:56 |
| asac | yeah ;) | 16:56 |
| asac | those have to suffer | 16:56 |
| asac | thats what they are there for | 16:56 |
| XioNoX | Pushed up to revision 106 | 16:58 |
| jcastro | [reed]: around? | 16:59 |
| XioNoX | asac, I've got to go | 17:02 |
| XioNoX | still some problems to solve with the appartement | 17:02 |
| XioNoX | see you later | 17:02 |
| asac | hmm quite broken still | 17:34 |
| [reed] | jcastro: yep | 18:12 |
| jcastro | [reed]: see fosscamp.org, if you could spread the word internally I would appreciate it. | 18:15 |
| jcastro | [reed]: moco is like across the street from google, I would like a big invasion! | 18:15 |
| [reed] | ok, I'll mention it to Evangelism and Marketing... they handle those types of things | 18:16 |
| jcastro | <3 thanks | 18:16 |
| * asac heads for the dealer (hardware) | 18:18 | |
| XioNoX | back ;) | 18:49 |
| XioNoX | asac, what's up ? | 18:49 |
| fta_ | asac, I will answer to sispoty. | 18:55 |
| fta_ | i never got his email as i'm not in the council (remember we discussed that ?) | 18:56 |
| fta_ | never heard of him btw | 18:57 |
| === fta_ is now known as fta | ||
| mojo_ | can someone help me in thunderbird? | 19:07 |
| asac | fta: sure. i know that you are not on that list ;) ... thats why i told you. i am not subscribed either. just polled the list archive and then asked someone on the list to forward | 19:14 |
| fta | ok | 19:15 |
| fta | thanks | 19:15 |
| fta | bzr is not very handy for development between 2+ computers (3 in my case) :( | 19:18 |
| asac | fta: why? | 19:19 |
| asac | ok off for a few hours | 19:21 |
| fta | i meant, when you have uncommitted code to pass from computer to computer (home, work, laptop, server, ...) | 19:21 |
| fta | well, obviously not server as it's unfinished work | 19:22 |
| fta | wip | 19:22 |
| huats | if somebody has some time to advocate a package : python bindings for webkitgtk : http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=pywebkitgtk | 22:04 |
| asac | huats: dholbach did all the review | 22:28 |
| asac | huats: did he say that you need advocacy on top? | 22:28 |
| huats | asac: hello | 22:29 |
| huats | asac: he was pretty happy with it | 22:29 |
| huats | I just told him today that I was moving to use a follow closely the policy with python-support | 22:30 |
| huats | asac: and anyway any package need 2 ACK to be included | 22:30 |
| huats | so even with daniel one, there is one missing | 22:30 |
| asac | it needs? | 22:30 |
| asac | in the bug or where? | 22:30 |
| huats | (note that daniel has not give his yet) | 22:30 |
| huats | in the revu interface | 22:31 |
| asac | where is the policy that it requires two acks? | 22:31 |
| huats | asac: let me find it | 22:32 |
| fta | asac, yep, revu requests 2 ACKs | 22:32 |
| asac | where is that written? | 22:33 |
| asac | ok i found it | 22:35 |
| asac | ok ... thats two for new apckages then | 22:35 |
| asac | makes sense to have a higher bar there ... though admins are still on top of that | 22:36 |
| huats | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDevelopment/NewPackages?action=show&redirect=MOTU%2FPackages%2FNew%2FPolicy | 22:36 |
| huats | oups | 22:36 |
| huats | you already have it | 22:36 |
| asac | huats: why dont you use cdbs? | 22:36 |
| asac | huats: i found it on the REVU wiki (first paragraph) | 22:37 |
| asac | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/Packages/REVU?action=show&redirect=REVU | 22:37 |
| huats | asac: I haven't used cdbs because I am planning to use it on maemo too and cdbs is not available there | 22:37 |
| asac | wow | 22:37 |
| asac | so why are MOTUs only encouraged to get a review on their own NEW packages, while there need to be two acks if it comes from a contributor | 22:38 |
| asac | strange | 22:38 |
| asac | huats: cdbs is not available on maemo? | 22:38 |
| asac | what does that mean? on the "maemo" distribution? | 22:38 |
| fta | asac, from my (limited) experience with REVU, it's quite easy to get the 1st ack, then no one steps up for a 2nd review | 22:38 |
| huats | when I checked (during the UDS) it was not | 22:39 |
| huats | I was meaning on the maemo platform | 22:39 |
| asac | fta: thats true | 22:39 |
| asac | fta: and most likely the reason is that nobody knows that there are two required ;) | 22:39 |
| asac | huats: what is "the" maemo platform?= | 22:40 |
| asac | why isnt cdbs available there? is that a package archive or what? | 22:40 |
| huats | the platform that runs on n810 | 22:40 |
| asac | anyway. if you says that you need it its ok ;) | 22:40 |
| fta | i think everyone in #u-motu knows, and most likely, contributors *are* in this channel | 22:40 |
| huats | it is based on debian (arm chip) | 22:41 |
| asac | huats: i have no clue about python, but why is , python-gtk2 in depends needed when you have ${python:Depends} | 22:41 |
| asac | ? | 22:41 |
| asac | or the other way around, what does ${python:Depends} expand to? | 22:42 |
| asac | fta: in *this* or in *-motu* channeL? | 22:42 |
| fta | this = *-motu | 22:43 |
| fta | sorry | 22:43 |
| asac | ok | 22:43 |
| huats | asac: let me understand why I did that (some time ago) | 22:45 |
| asac | huats: what is $(confflags) ? | 22:45 |
| huats | oh | 22:45 |
| huats | that is something that I have removed | 22:46 |
| huats | :( | 22:46 |
| huats | I think it should not appear now :( | 22:46 |
| asac | ok | 22:48 |
| asac | ill comment with those two changes (and ask for clarification) | 22:49 |
| huats | sure | 22:49 |
| huats | asac: don't mind the confflag | 22:49 |
| huats | it is not in the next upload | 22:49 |
| huats | (I have removed it already) | 22:49 |
| asac | well. i need to comment something. you can show reponsiveniss | 22:50 |
| asac | by naming that | 22:50 |
| huats | ok | 22:50 |
| huats | no pb | 22:50 |
| huats | I understand | 22:50 |
| huats | thanks asac | 22:50 |
| asac | huats: ok done | 22:52 |
| huats | asac: thanks | 22:56 |
| huats | I am testing the python-gtk2 depends | 22:56 |
| huats | and then I'll answer and post the new one | 22:56 |
| huats | asac: I have uploaded a new version, that integrates my answers to your comments :) | 23:56 |
| asac | dont see the upload on REV yet | 23:57 |
Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!