[00:00] asac, did you make any progress with the plan to run mozilla tests since UDS ? [00:01] no ... except that everyone else wants to do it ;) [00:02] however, i dont consider that a feature that is bound to feature freeze [00:06] ok [00:07] whatever we get up should be doable. i dont think that everything that requires hardware will be realistic to do [00:07] our test center currently undergoes heavy restructuring [00:07] and the team was moved to the distro team. so once they have finished that we probably can use their resources [00:08] yay ... flash detection kit detection works ;) [00:08] also on youtube ;) [00:08] no i have hope that all this might really work [00:09] what was it all about ? [00:13] fta: making the "missing plugins ..." thing appear when a website tries to be smart and uses flash detection kit to not get the puzzle [00:14] ok, good [00:14] could that be used to swap flash plugins at runtime ? (ie gnash -> nonfree) [00:19] fta: well. what we do at runtime is to display a plugin icon in the status bar. when you selec that you can change the plugin. which hopefully will work at runtime [00:20] fta: the anti flash-detection-kit is used to trigger the plugin finder so provide users with the best user experience [00:20] e.g. dont get to adobes website, but to the plugin finder wizard [00:20] both together make a good proportion of the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FlashExperienceIntrepid spec [00:23] hmm ... so how can i dispatch an event globally easily :/ [00:34] ok globally is wrong ... i have to figure from which document that event comes from [00:34] err event ... invocation ;) [00:43] hairy [00:43] and scary ;) [00:53] ok letse hope that http://paste.ubuntu.com/40291/ is a good way ;) [00:54] to get our event target from JSStack [00:56] i'm too out of this code to be of any help [00:56] i know .... its just talking to my self ;) [00:56] not sure why though [00:57] i'm currently writing unit tests for my stuff, scratching my head to find good tests, and while doing so, i found a nasty bug [00:57] oh ;) [00:57] well. usually the bugs you discover are the more interesting ones ,) [00:59] its always impressive how much code there is in firefox ;) [01:00] .. code you havent seen before though you were sure you looked at almost everything ;) [01:00] i thought i always understood how all this JSContext things worked ... but now that I want to rip the guts out of it i dont find the places so i can verify the theory i had in mind [01:02] i think thats probably because most backports i did that required to guess which scoped called a function were for the 1.7 branch ... and now things have changed considerably [01:02] more macros :( [01:05] some parts are awfully complex and not doing much. looks like code piled up for years [01:06] yeah, i fixed my bug. [01:06] unit tests are good for me [01:08] right. actually thats why i signed up for mozilla stuff ... see how a large code base evolves and gets improved over time [01:08] fta: the craziest refactoring will be the death of nsCOMPtr ;) [01:08] which benjamin plans to do at some point [01:09] e.g. making everything garbage collected ... aka no ref counting anymore [01:09] i thought it was ready, that's why i started the moz2 branches, but it never happened [01:09] i asked him during summit and he said its likely post moz2 [01:09] lol [01:10] far too intrusive ;) [01:10] that was supposed to be the whole point of moz2 [01:10] but he managed to get a first pitch done [01:10] be intrusive [01:10] with not too much manual tranformation [01:10] producing 100M diffs ;) [01:11] fta: there is no moz2 branch anymore, is there? [01:11] correct [01:11] maybe they will go for 1.9.2 1.9.3 ;) ... who knows [01:12] so maybe moz2 will indeed have that. its just _far_ away [01:12] or if there is, it's in ~users [01:13] my guess is that the shorter release cycle they go for now, will make intrusive changes even less likely [01:13] too much new features land that constantly would need to be side merged to a long diverged branch [01:14] except that you can constantly work on a refactoring tool ... and then at some point do the migration all at once [01:14] without breaking a 9 month release cycle ;) [01:14] i would like to see CSS3 and SVG1.1 complete, and some HTML5, before they start breaking everything [01:14] otoh, breaking trunk for ages isnt good for "normal" contributors either [01:15] true [01:18] ha [01:18] i found it ;) [01:18] nsContentUtils has the "GetDocumentOfCaller" convenience function [01:18] good that i didnt give up and copy the code i found elsewhere ;) [01:19] http://paste.ubuntu.com/40295/ [01:20] ok i need FromCaller i guess ;) [01:21] err, Context i mean [01:26] ok, I call it a day. I need some sleep [01:26] night [01:28] sleep well [09:01] Hi ! [10:00] asac ? [10:27] XioNoX: oh sorry. didnt look in this window ;) [10:27] XioNoX: how are you? [10:28] asac, fine :D [10:28] asac, and you ? good weekend ? [10:29] more or less :-D [10:29] so, what can I do for my last day of internship ? [10:29] XioNoX: i fixed the xulrunner patch (to select thedefault plugin by pref) [10:30] ... the backend ... [10:30] ok [10:30] so I have to compile it again ? [10:30] XioNoX: when you want to test it yes. [10:30] XioNoX: otherwise, just cleanup your wizard thing. [10:30] let me know when ready ;( [10:30] ;) [10:30] it is clean now [10:31] but there are 2 bugs [10:31] XioNoX: oh. good [10:31] :( [10:31] which ` [10:31] ? [10:32] first,the overlay thing don't seem to give all the mimetypes present on the page to the window [10:33] you sure? [10:33] secondly, it seam that the overlay save the mimetypes on the same array, but I'm not sure [10:33] well ... it gives you the mimetypes of those that have a plugin installed ... e.g. if you dont have a plugin for video/avi you wont see it [10:33] not at 100% but it seam to [10:34] good morning [10:34] hi gnomefreak [10:34] morning ! [10:34] XioNoX: i dont understand secondly [10:34] ;) [10:35] XioNoX: at best push that thing up so i can test it [10:35] * gnomefreak really hates when things fix themselves [10:35] gnomefreak: why ... thats good ;) [10:35] * asac would like to see everything getting fixed on their own [10:35] asac: knowing the problem would help [10:36] its fixed ;) [10:36] true. but if its gone, there is no problem anymore ,)+ [10:37] asac, Pushed up to revision 102. [10:39] asac: true now i shoudl run lintain on it before pushing to reve i guess [10:41] * gnomefreak though lintian is run on *_source.changes [10:41] thought [10:48] XioNoX: ok. what we want to do is to look at the name of the plugins [10:48] It is what I've done [10:48] no ? [10:49] and if its either "Shockwave Flash" or "Shockwave Flash 2" ... or "Windows Media Player Plug-in 10" [10:49] (if it starst like that) ... then use the description [10:49] instead of the name [10:49] for the other mime-types the name should be fine [10:49] (ill fix the description of gnash, which is just ridiculous= [10:49] I don't understand [10:51] XioNoX: dont use the name, but the description [10:51] if they have one of the names abover [10:51] (to be exact, if the names start with the names above)= [10:52] install gnash and you will see [10:52] it has the same name and we cannot change it [10:52] thus we need to display the description [10:53] maybe dpatch wanted me to patch rules insteaad of make changes to it :( [10:58] XioNoX: if you dont have gnash in about:plugins do: [10:59] sudo ln -s /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins/ [10:59] once you see both flashs there you will see what i mean in the wizard [11:00] XioNoX: once you have that we can get to the second bug ;).... if you select a drop down it appears to always use the first menu entry [11:00] once that is fixed, it should be usable ;) [11:10] XioNoX: and third, for the "not all mime-types displayed", we have http://paste.ubuntu.com/40389/ [11:10] which basically resets the array on each and every event [11:12] XioNoX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/40390/ (<- patch for "third" issue) [11:16] we should really add a search for revu [11:22] XioNoX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [11:22] thats the fix including the 2nd issue [11:22] the rest is for you ;) [11:23] also when i first click on the first of the two content types, somehow the order of the table flips [11:23] causing confusion [11:37] asac: someone in -motu is looking for you [11:37] yeah [11:38] ok just making sur eyou knew [11:38] i didnt ;) [11:38] but the red flash light was flashing here ... so i probably could have found out ;) [11:41] asac, sorry, some appartement problems [11:42] ok, I see, Gnash sucks [11:42] the best isn't to report a bug to gnash directly ? [11:43] XioNoX: hey ;) [11:43] thats currently not the topc [11:43] but the name of the gnash plugin don't have to be "shokwave flash".... [11:44] XioNoX: it has to [11:44] XioNoX: there is not choice [11:44] XioNoX: we need to use the description for flash and the microsoft mime-type above [11:44] why ? [11:44] XioNoX: because the flash detection kit uses it [11:44] its used by websites to detect on whether to try to display flash at all [11:44] this sucks, but thats how it is [11:45] so gnash has to use exactly the same name as adobe flash [11:45] but the plugin's name is not the same as the description of the mimetype [11:45] XioNoX: no ... not the description of the mime type -> the description of the plugin [11:45] on the left side you display the description of the mime-type ... thats find [11:45] t has bo be like that ? [11:45] fine [11:45] yes. [11:46] XioNoX: special case the two mime types above for now [11:46] ok [11:46] the otherse can use the plugiun name [11:46] XioNoX: i will make flash folks use a saner description that can be displayed there [11:46] XioNoX: hmm ... maybe just do it for Flash [11:46] dont do the microsoft thing [11:47] but for exemple, the video/avi can have different plugins who manage it [11:47] its not worth it and the totem name at least has totem in the name [11:47] and with différent names... [11:47] sure [11:47] all fine. just use name everywhere except for flash [11:47] where we have to use the description somewhat [11:48] XioNoX: the following idea: [11:48] display the name and in a second line the filename [11:48] that would be a good compromise [11:48] ;) [11:48] at best even three lines: [11:48] 1. name [11:48] 2. filename [11:48] 3. description ;) [11:48] is that possible? [11:49] I don't know, it depend of the xbl... [11:49] 1 thing, you sayd : [11:49] at best even three lines: [11:49] 1. name [11:49] 2. filename [11:49] 3. description ;) [11:49] is that possible? [11:49] XioNoX: yeah. [11:49] sorry [11:49] XioNoX: http://paste.ubuntu.com/ [11:49] thats the fix including the 2nd issue [11:49] XioNoX: right. apply that patch first [11:50] commit that (after removing the alerts) [11:50] and then lets fix the appearence: [11:50] which patch ? [11:50] http://paste.ubuntu.com/40394/ [11:50] thanks [11:50] XioNoX: remove the alerts before committing [11:50] re [11:50] hey [11:55] guys [11:55] www.tempomusic.be [11:55] could you try this? [11:55] it should crash when you enter the site [11:55] what will happen there? [11:55] verwilst: flash [11:55] drives my girlfriend crazy [11:55] yeah [11:55] (without looking) [11:55] could you try too? [11:55] why? [11:55] the first page works [11:55] i dont even have flash installed ;) [11:55] to see wether it's reproducible [11:55] (at the moment) [11:55] well then, a reason more to try ;) [11:55] verwilst: as i said: install nspluginwrapper [11:56] myeah.. i guess ill have to [11:56] https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive [11:56] then only nspluginwrapper will crash eh [11:56] yes [11:56] only the flash video that causes the pain will go down [11:56] verwilst: another idea is to consider to use flashblock [11:56] so your girlfriend can enable individual files she actually wants to see [11:57] but most likely nspluginwrapper should be good enough [11:57] asac: so nspluginwrapper [11:57] verwilst: so 1. install nspluginwrapper 2. sudo apt-get install --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree [11:57] that's it? [11:57] do i need the ppa? [11:57] yes [11:58] or is it in the normal distro as well? [11:58] verwilst: you can just download the nspluginwrapper deb [11:58] what's changed there? [11:58] and sudo dpkg -i it [11:58] 1.0.0 i guess [11:58] verwilst: the change is that its now avaialble for i386 as well [11:58] verwilst: no ... for hardy there is 0.9.x [11:58] ( it's flash 10.0 rc btw, but that shouldnt matter? ) [11:58] and she will still have full sound? :) [11:58] not sure. in worst case you can downgradne and install libflashsupport [11:58] to get sound [11:59] hm [11:59] that should work because the flash crashes only come when you leave a website containing flash [11:59] this whole flash situation sucks so bad :P [11:59] verwilst: yeah. [11:59] when i leave? [11:59] yes. so it doesnt matter anymore that flash crashes everytime with libflashsupport with nspluginwarpper ;) [11:59] is the libflashcrap crashing when it cleans up? [12:00] you can still see the video ... when you leave the page flash will crash silently, without taking firefox down [12:00] heh [12:00] good stuffs.. :| [12:00] give it a try [12:00] i hope the situation is improved with intrepid? :) [12:00] maybe nspluginwrapper works with 10 rc1 [12:00] yes [12:00] we'll soon find out [12:00] sound will work [12:00] at least thats the promise ;) [12:01] if that doesnt happen i will work as hard as possible to get someones head squashed for that [12:01] asac, going to eat, the patch works perfectly [12:01] XioNoX: right. now fix the appearence like discussed [12:01] ;) [12:01] enjoy your lunch [12:01] yep [12:02] thx ;) [12:02] hm [12:02] there is only one pool [12:02] so which one is the hardy deb? :) [12:03] http://ppa.launchpad.net/mozillateam/ubuntu/pool/main/n/nspluginwrapper/nspluginwrapper_1.0.0-0ubuntu1~mt1_i386.deb this one isnt? [12:03] nspluginwrapper depends on libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.13.3); however: blabalbal [12:05] verwilst: you can download the right pacikage from the launchpad page [12:05] no need to browser the pool [12:05] there are links [12:05] hm [12:05] directly on that page [12:05] but i added the repo to my sources [12:05] and it still errors out [12:05] verwilst: thats not a good idea [12:05] download the deb [12:05] oh? :) [12:05] install it [12:06] i never said you should enable that repo [12:06] it's just for the nspluginwrapper [12:06] yeah [12:06] there only is an intrepid version.. [12:07] of 1.0.0 [12:07] or am i blind? :) [12:07] verwilst: yes you are ;) [12:07] verwilst: just look at the launchpad page [12:07] https://edge.launchpad.net/~mozillateam/+archive [12:07] i am! [12:07] :P [12:07] there are two lines [12:07] ;) [12:08] nspluginwrapper - 0.9.91.5-2ubuntu2.8.04.1~mt1 for hardy [12:08] not 1.0.0 [12:08] yeah ;) [12:08] you said 1.0.0! :P [12:08] i never said that you are looking for 1.0 [12:08] no [12:08] aaah [12:08] i misread you [12:08] 12:58 < asac> verwilst: the change is that its now avaialble for i386 as well [12:08] 12:58 < asac> verwilst: no ... for hardy there is 0.9.x [12:08] thats what i said [12:08] no idea how you can read 1.0.0 out of that ;) [12:08] i thought initial hardy was 0.9 :) [12:08] ah, i remember ... your eyes are bad ;) [12:09] and the ppa had 1.0.0 instead ;) [12:09] yeah ... you thought :) [12:09] i didnt say that ;) [12:09] anyway [12:10] hm [12:11] how do i enable nspluginwrapper @ firefox? [12:11] since it still crashes the browser [12:11] dpkg-reconfigure flashplugin-nonfree good as well? [12:11] verwilst: --reinstall flashplugin-nonfree [12:12] ( since i manually copied the 10.0 so [12:12] ok ok :P [12:12] verwilst: manually copied -> remove that [12:12] only packages are easy to do [12:12] with nspluginwrapper [12:12] well you can do it manually, but i wont you support in that direction (too much work) [12:13] it loads! [12:13] hm, there is a nsplugin.libflashplayer.so in about:config [12:13] good ;) [12:13] thats right [12:14] maybe if i find this and replace it with the 10.0 one? ;) [12:14] about:plugins [12:14] no [12:14] that doesnt work [12:14] yeah plugins [12:14] just stick to flash 9 [12:14] :P [12:14] no reason for 10 yet [12:14] but i dont wanna! *puppy face* [12:14] ok :) ill install libcrapsupport again too [12:15] yeah ... load your system full with shit ;) [12:15] what's the fix in intrepid? [12:15] put crap beneath a load of shit to make it worse, but then make it better by providing a wrapper :) [12:16] hehe [12:16] verwilst: no time to go into details today. ask me after feature freeze ;) [12:16] ok [12:16] in 4 words then? [12:16] :D [12:16] as armin76 would say: "bumb!" ;) [12:17] euh :P [12:17] bumb everything everywhere + make nspluginwrapper the default (not because of the sound crashes) [12:17] armin76 can surely explain how to do the mega-bumb :) [12:18] wth is bumb :P [12:18] anyways, the site loads, and i have sound everywhere! [12:18] jaj! [12:18] congrats [12:19] welcome to the brave new world of flash-remangled ;) [12:19] so intrepid has flash + sound + crashlessness out of the box ? :) [12:19] verwilst: at least the crashes wont be in firefox i hope ;) [12:20] and sound might just be broken on the alsa/kernel level :) [12:20] crimsun is working on fixing all the nice sound bugs :) [12:20] well ... not from the packaging perspective ;) [12:20] go crimsun! [12:21] anyways, thanks for the nspluginwrapper tip asac [12:21] np ... keep it tested ;) [12:21] it will have made my gf's day ;) [12:23] lol [12:23] buuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuumb [12:23] here we go ;) armin76 woke up [12:47] armin76: care to explain bumb? :) [12:48] lol [12:48] verwilst: ppl always request "version bump", sometimes ppl misspell it with dump, bumb, dumb [12:51] heh :P [12:51] and what exactly was changed wrt flash sound/crash issues in intrepid? asac doesnt have time to explain [12:51] ;) [13:28] fta: i think sispoty asked you something on motu-council about your vision of motu vs. mozillateam [13:29] did you get that mail? if so please ask him to forward it to you so you can reply [13:29] sispoty == Stefan Potyra === asac_ is now known as asac [13:50] asac: how would i go about getting rid of the native package warning/error? === thunderstruck is now known as gnomefreak [14:08] gnomefreak: you need to be sure that you have an orig.tar.gz and a diff.gz [14:16] asac: i dont think i did since i used svn but thanks ill look at it later i have to meet up with my lawyer soon [14:21] yep just upstream dir. and the packages that i built and .diff isnt one of them for some reason i guess since there was no upstream tarball that could be why. maybe i should tar up the upstream dir that way i have atleast a tarball and dpkg should build a diff with that. ill work on it later today. [14:23] looks like a mix of clients [14:24] ok play with that later maybe make it easy to stradle servers, later guys/gals [14:35] back ;) [14:50] asac, I've pushed you patch [14:51]