[08:29] <davmor2> Morning Everybody
[09:58] <nand> moorning!
[09:59] <davmor2> nand: morning dude
[11:03] <davmor2> Anybody about who can confirm a bug on desktop cd's?
[11:05] <persia> davmor2: Which bug, and which CD?
[11:06] <davmor2> Ubuntu 32 bit iso from this morning 20080825.  bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/261073
[11:11] <persia> davmor2: I've started a download, but cdimages.ubuntu.com can't spare that much bandwidth, so it will be a couploe hours.  Perhaps someone else will get to it first.
[11:13] <davmor2> persia: thanks anyway :)
[11:15] <persia> Oh, I will confirm if nobody gets to it: just wanted to provide warning of the time lag involved :)
[11:15] <persia> (and I'd really like that machine to have more bandwidth: I probably have more at home than the server)
[11:16] <davmor2> persia: try using chromium rather than cdimage
[11:17] <davmor2> I got all the iso's updated this morning in under 20 minutes :)
[11:20] <persia> davmor2: No better for me.  My issue is mostly latency: I'm about a second away from those machines.  There's plenty of bandwidth, but the nature of the TCP ACK window causes me pain.
[11:21] <davmor2> :(
[11:21] <persia> Hmm.  Actually, about a second from chromium, and only about 700ms from cdimage.  Anyway, further away than any part of the internet ought be.
[11:21] <persia> (and I don't understand why, as I'm 10ms from the national hub, which is supposed to be <300ms from anywhere: there's something specifically odd about routing to that datacentre)
[11:24] <jpds> persia: "mtr cdimage.ubuntu.com" give any useful info?
[11:32] <persia> It tells me that despite the statement earlier, chromium is cdimage :)
[11:32] <persia> It also tells me that I need to get a new router, as my own router seems to be adding latency.
[11:34] <jpds> I wonder why beryllium is cdimage here then: http://paste.ubuntu.com/40399/
[11:34] <persia> Other than that, it I've got huge variance.  Most of the pain seems to be that I'm going Tokyo-Osaka-Seattle-New York-London, rather than Tokyo-Kobe-HeathRow-London, but I remember there being problems with some of the Europe-Asia links this spring and nobody wanting to draw more given events in the region, so perhaps I oughtn't be surprised.
[11:35] <persia> load balacing through round-robin DNS maybe?
[11:38] <jpds> Possibly.
[15:36] <persia> Davmor2: My apologies: I became significantly distracted.  I can't reproduce that bug with teh image from the 22nd at all.
[15:59] <ara> ping cr3
[16:00] <cr3> ara: pong
[16:00] <ara> cr3: hey, have you had the opportunity to read my latest emails?
[16:00] <cr3> ara: nope, been swamped
[16:00] <cr3> ara: I need to send one more email and I could have a few minutes
[16:01] <ara> cr3: ok, no prob
[16:01] <ara> take your time
[18:03] <stgraber> cr3: hey, just saw your mail. What about python ? still using 2.4 ?
[18:21] <perex> hello
[18:21] <cr3> stgraber: yep, because Zope3 is still working on moving to 2.5
[18:21] <cr3> stgraber: I'll keep in close contact with the Zope3 folks so that we can move to 2.5 from the trunk when it's ready
[18:22] <cr3> stgraber: that's one of the many advantages of having our own Zope3 tree from which we can merge with the trunk when we want
[19:58] <EagleSn> amsn installed from ubuntu packages cannot change skin