[00:00] <koshar1>  greendot another option would be boot a machine with ethernet with a livecd, install the wifi on that machine in the live session, make a aptoncd disk, and use the disk on the unconnected machine
[00:00] <koshar1> Khisanth: i agree, it would only need to be connected until the wifi was established
[00:00] <chetnick> my sound icon in the upper right corner is not there any more. How can i put it back?
[00:00] <Khisanth> koshar1: oops actually messing up the unit, maybe not 100 meters but 100ft should still be good enough
[00:00] <chetnick> never mind found it
[00:00] <carandraug> chetnick: right click in the pannel and select add to panel..
[00:01] <chetnick> :)
[00:01] <Khisanth> unless it's a really big house
[00:01] <nrg_> ok
[00:01] <thenetduck> ink-1: Hi sorry I don't mean to come off winny... anyway, I am trying to get active hard drive protction on my ThinkPad and I have found this wikipage that explains everything.. I think : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardDiskShockProtection
[00:01] <greendot> koshar1: i'm going to download all the debs, and how would i install them from the command line?
[00:01] <Crshman> hi all i followed this tutorial to see if i could get PA working...http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5587712&postcount=472 but now i don't have any sound
[00:01] <koshar1> Khisanth actuall ethernet is rated at 100M best case scenarion
[00:01] <thenetduck> ink-1: I would like to get it working but am at a loss on how to get everything installed, up and running
[00:01] <Crshman> when i try to play something i get an error that says "failed to connect to stream"
[00:01] <rconan> greendot, you can just put them in /var/cache/apt/sources.list then use apt-get aptitude or synaptic as you normally would
[00:01] <Khisanth> koshar1: yeah but a 100 meter cable might not be cheaper
[00:02] <thenetduck> ink-1: it seems simple i just don't understand what I need to do to get it working
[00:02] <koshar1> greendot: you would need to make a packages fuile and then use apt or synaptic, if you tried to install them via gdebi you would be plunged into dependency hell
[00:02] <rconan> Khisanth, is 100 meters not longer than a network cable can be and still be within standards
[00:02] <ink-1> thenetduck: sorry, I have never used an IBM laptop
[00:02] <thenetduck> ink-1: and I don't know how to apply a batch to a kernel...
[00:02] <thenetduck> ink-1: ok
[00:03] <thenetduck> has anyone here gotten Active Hard Drive Protection working on a thinkpad?
[00:03] <koshar1> rconan over 100 meters and installed within the intended specifications and theres no garuntee it will work
[00:03] <thenetduck> or know how to patch a kernel
[00:03] <lwizardl> does RS232 to USB adapters work properly under Ubuntu (ie RS232 Serial -> USB port)
[00:03] <rconan> lwizardl, should do
[00:04] <dennister> pulseaudio help anyone? server is now started, but there don't seem to be any default sinks or sources
[00:04] <Crshman> ^ i have the same issue
[00:04] <rconan> lwizardl, can't say i've ever heard of or seen anyone try though
[00:04] <Gh0sty> just loose pulse
[00:04] <Alan_M> !hardware
[00:04] <Gh0sty> have done it, works fine with alsa only
[00:05] <koshar1> greendot: si in summary if you wanted togo down that path you could, you would need to manually download all the packages n say a flash drive and add them to a folder on your destinationmachine, and everytime you added another package run scanpackages... to update the packages file
[00:05] <koshar1> greendot and add the folder in synaptic as a repository
[00:05] <Kohlrak-Server> does anyone know the file and directory for the xserver resolution file?
[00:05] <greendot> okay wait a second, Ubuntu can access my external HDD
[00:06] <greendot> i'll put the files in a folder called "ndiswrapper"
[00:06] <kcman1> carandraug hey thanks the k3b worked like a champ
[00:06] <greendot> what do i do from there to intall them all?
[00:06] <Otacon22> how can i know how much is old the locate database?
[00:06] <Eonx> 4270
[00:06] <gRaCiOsO> someone know about wireless
[00:06] <rconan> koshar1, can he not just copy them into /var/cache/apt/archives, that's what i normally do in similar situations
[00:06] <gRaCiOsO> ?
[00:06] <koshar1> greendot this is basicly the procedure https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Personal
[00:06] <rconan> !wifi | gRaCiOsO
[00:07] <rconan> koshar1, that is overkill for this situation i think
[00:07] <koshar1> rconan he could but he would still need to reconstruct the packages file
[00:07] <carandraug> kcman1: you welcome. Glad you got it working
[00:07] <rconan> koshar1, well i never have done that, it always works for me
[00:07] <koshar1> rconan the package manager looks at the packages file NOT the contents of the cache folder for packages
[00:07] <gRaCiOsO> rconan,  i have read that but i couldnt get log with wpa encryption only wep
[00:08] <freedumMan> Anyone have issues with Firefox 3 crashing on certain button clicks? ive installed 2.0 but i'd love to get 3.0 back asap !
[00:08] <greendot> okay..........fuck
[00:08] <jfincher> how do I change my window manager in Ubuntu?
[00:08] <greendot> koshar1: the file i have to download to do this has a billion dependancies as well
[00:08] <rconan> gRaCiOsO, then ask a specific question not a general one, unfortunately i can't help with your problem
[00:09] <koshar1> greendot: you could install dpkg-dev manually as it only has a couple of dependencys IIRC
[00:09] <greendot> so how do i set up soemthing to handle this if i have nothing to handle it to begin with
[00:09] <gRaCiOsO> rconan,  well i have asking all the afternoon here and reading too
[00:09] <Nutzebahn> Hello. How do I change the color depth settings in Ubuntu?
[00:09] <greendot> binutils, bzip2, cpio, dpkg, libtimedate-perl, lzma, make, patch, perl-modules, perl5, and god knows how many those each have to each other
[00:10] <favro> jfincher: at login click the options button and select change session
[00:10] <vendego> DCC SEND "pok" 0 0 0
[00:10] <rconan> greendot, i think you're in luck, most of those will have little or no dependancies
[00:10] <koshar1> greendot i always keep a persoanl repository using this methood on my ipod as i maintain 3 machines without web access, however it is MUCh easier if the machine you use to downlaod the packages is getting the packages with a package manager
[00:10] <jfincher> favro: thanks
[00:10] <jfincher> I'll try that
[00:10] <favro> :)
[00:11] <greendot> koshar1: the ndiswrapper-utils has only 8 dpenedancies
[00:11] <dfgas> how do i get desktop icons to default to right side
[00:11] <koshar1> greendot double click on the dpkg-dev.deb package and it will open using gdebi graphicval package installer, and will prompt you wjhat dependencies it needs
[00:11] <greendot> i'd rahter just install those wihtout having to install more than i need
[00:11] <dfgas> i can't find anything on google
[00:11] <KleinerHai> ah...ndiswrapper...does it came out of the box with wep support?
[00:12] <rconan> greendot, if you're prepared to listen to me over koshar1 i would be willing to bet you can just put them in /var/cache/apt/archives and it will work with no further trouble
[00:12] <koshar1> greendot the problem is the 8 dependencies may have a further 8 dependedcies and so forth...
[00:12] <greendot> i already got them all koshar1
[00:12] <greendot> all the ones that they each depend on, and their childrens children as well
[00:13] <greendot> rconan, /var/cache/apt/archives?
[00:13] <koshar1> greendot: well you could use gdebi
[00:13] <greendot> koshar1: if i did it rconan's way, would that work as well?
[00:13] <favro> dfgas: if you drag them where you want them they should be there next time
[00:13] <rconan> greendot, yes, it's where apt normally puts its package files before installation, i'm almost certain it will check there for them before trying to download
[00:13] <koshar1> greendot rconan,s methood may work but you will hit a snag if the package ISNT in the packages file with the correct version
[00:14] <greendot> i made sure i got all the correct versions
[00:14] <greendot> i'm not supid, i just don't have a way to apt-get yet
[00:14] <greendot> lol
[00:14] <koshar1> greendot sone packages have a depedency equil to or greater than another version number ect.
[00:15] <rconan> greendot, i've done this before in similar situations and it worked for me
[00:15] <greendot> koshar1: the ubuntu package search tells me what version i needed, linked me to it, and gave me the download links
[00:15] <Dedi>  anyone has a good postfix reject_rbl_client config for recipient/helo/sender restriction?
[00:16] <Khisanth> well if that doesn't work you can still use gdebi or dpkg -i :)
[00:16] <rconan> greendot, the problem will occur if ubuntu package search knows about versions which your computer doesn't know about because your packagelists are out of date
[00:16] <koshar1> greendot apt or synaptic will only wok if it knows where the file is and this is determined by it being in the packages file, gdebi doesnt care about that as it expects you to manually meet the dependencies
[00:16] <chetnick> Is it safe now to upgrade from 7.10 to 8.04 without having major problems after upgrade. I had very very bad exeperince after upgrading from Feisty to Gutsy. Had to do clean install.
[00:16] <greendot> so koshar1: if this doesn't work, how do i do the gdebi way?
[00:16] <carandraug> greendot: the script, the synaptic package manager generates it's a simple bash script with wget. You can open it in a Windows and see the link for all deb files you need. I think that's the easiest thing to do
[00:17] <snikker> i'm unable to see the complete window of dvdrip, even if i clink on maximize icon... someone have my same problem?
[00:17] <greendot> well, i'm going to go try this
[00:17] <greendot> and if it works i'll be happy
[00:17] <greendot> wish me luck guys
[00:18] <koshar1> greendot: double click the *deb file and gbebi will atemp to install the package. if its dependedcies arnt met it will let you know which package to install, so the packages will need to be installed in the correct order.
[00:18] <carandraug> greendot: good luck which whatever method you try
[00:18] <greendot> alright, i'll be back to let you guys know one way or the other
[00:18] <Gnea> chetnick: yes, you may hit a snag with locale generation, but it's pretty easy to get through
[00:18] <koshar1> greendot eg if 1.deb depends on 2.deb which depends on 3.deb you will have to install 3 first then 2 then 1 :-)
[00:19] <Gnea> !upgrade | chetnick
[00:19] <chetnick> Gnea: ok thanks, i would go for it, but currently i dont have any space to backup system.
[00:20] <chetnick> Wish me luck :)
[00:20] <Gnea> :)
[00:20] <anom01y> hi, I have a strange problem with my sound
[00:21] <anom01y> need help to try and fix the problem
[00:22] <jax> i just got my ati hd3850 agp card working with ubuntu, yippie
[00:22] <freedumMan> Anyone have issues with Firefox 3 crashing on certain button clicks? ive installed 2.0 but i'd love to get 3.0 back asap !
[00:24] <Gnea> !sound | anom01y
[00:24] <korupted> whats a good email small email client something like evolution but smaller in size mb wise
[00:24] <carandraug> freedumMan: could you give me the link to the page with the button that crashes Firefox
[00:25] <Flannel> korupted: Just email? or calendaring etc as well?
[00:26] <korupted> just email for sending recieving
[00:26] <korupted> :0
[00:26] <carandraug> freedumMan: Sorry, don't bother. I forgot I still haven't upgraded in this computer
[00:27] <godmode117> hi, im having problems burning cds. i put a blank disc in and nothing happens, when i go to a burning program it tells me theres no device/no cd
[00:27] <freedumMan> carandraug, every button on every page
[00:28] <carandraug> freedumMan: oh! That is strange. I thought it was only some buttons (you said "crashing on certain button clicks?"). No idea, sorry
[00:28] <korupted> Flannel, just a email client to send mail and receive email for a pop3 server :).
[00:28] <freedumMan> carandraug, its random a page could work but mostly on POST buttons
[00:29] <freedumMan> its not related to a certain page
[00:29] <freedumMan> just happens freq almost every click but sometimes i can get away with a few clicks
[00:31] <porncake> how come when i drop the themes i download from gnome-look.org in appearance -> themes it says this is not a theme file, do i need some sort of a special theme manager?
[00:31] <godmode117> hi, im having problems burning cds. i put a blank disc in and nothing happens, when i go to a burning program it tells me theres no device/no cd
[00:32] <godmode117> this is such a frustrating problem
[00:32] <carandraug> !repeat | godmode117
[00:32] <carandraug> freedumMan: I really don't know. Make sure you're not using firefox development version. I've had problems before with it
[00:32] <godmode117> ok sorry, its just a frustrating problem
[00:32] <Sake> how do apt packages get added to the repositories?
[00:33] <freedumMan> carandraug, how do i know if its the dev one?
[00:33] <mds58> godmode: u did mount the drive right?
[00:33] <godmode117> idk
[00:33] <carandraug> godmode117: I believe you. I don't know how to solve it but does the drive reads cd's that you know have data on it? Or is it only blank Cd's?
[00:33] <godmode117> it only on blank cds
[00:34] <godmode117> ive burned cd with it before though
[00:34] <godmode117> cds*
[00:34] <jnmzwang> hello
[00:34] <godmode117> i just cant rember how i got it to mount it
[00:35] <platyhelminth> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_HThU7MFwI
[00:35] <carandraug> freedumMan: open firefox, go to Help and take a look at about Mozilla Firefox. You can also check the version in the terminal "firefox3 -v". I think firefox 3 is the command but I can't check 'cos I don't have it in this computer
[00:36] <korupted> Flannel, I found one Sylpheed. think this will be good enough thank you :)
[00:36] <freedumMan> what am i looking for
[00:36] <carandraug> godmode117: even if you have burned Cd's with before, it doesn't mean it's still working. Mine stopped working from one day to the other (guess it grew old). Try reading a normal data CD and see if it worls
[00:37] <godmode117> ok ill try that
[00:37] <carandraug> freedumMan: if you're using a development version it probably says it somewhere. Maybe only dev or rc or release candidate
[00:37] <kraypius> how do I shut down the desktop but leave everything except the gui crap running so i can return to command prompt?
[00:37] <godmode117> brb
[00:37] <freedumMan> its not
[00:38] <dVs> crtl-alt-F1
[00:38] <mds58> trying to load ubuntu latest version on my desktop.....it stops loadind and has a line " (initramfs) " what do I do?
[00:38] <cwill747> kraypius: yeah, control-alt-f1
[00:38] <Sake> how do I do a ctrl-alt-backspace from the command line?
[00:38] <dVs> hehehe
[00:38] <dVs> i dont know anything bout linux but i know ya cant do that
[00:39] <Sake> I thought there was like a "gdm restart" or something like that
[00:39] <dVs> oh .. well i have no idea .
[00:39] <dVs> :/
[00:39] <Sake> anyone?
[00:39] <Rhodetrem> I see Pidgin 2.5.0 has been released and is in the intrepid packages - can I use these on hardy?
[00:39] <carandraug> freedumMan: then I don't sorry. Sorry, if I can't be of help
[00:39] <dVs> i cant get anything working
[00:39] <kcman1> ok how do i open the menu bar to arrange the menu bars themselves
[00:39] <cwill747> kcman1: right click and hit edit menu
[00:39] <godmode117> back
[00:40] <godmode117> whats the terminal command to mount my cd drive?
[00:40] <cwill747> kcman1: (right click on the menu)
[00:40] <mds58> has anyone else had trouble loading the latest version of ubuntu?
[00:40] <rp3> kcman1 system-preferences-main menu
[00:40] <ryaxnb> What's that really lightweight FM that goes on WMs? You know, the not-Pcmanfm, GTK2, not emelfm one...
[00:41] <Leefmc> Question: Anyone know anything about getting an MX Revolution to work with Ubuntu? Mine works with my laptop, but not my Mac Pro
[00:41] <koshar1> godmode117 man mount
[00:41] <Nutzebahn> Hello. How do I change the color depth settings in Ubuntu?
[00:41] <rp3> kcman1: of course right click on the menu it self is faster :)
[00:41] <carandraug> godmode117: "mount -t iso9600 /path_to_device /path_to_mount_point" not sure about the iso9600 part. Take a look at man mount
[00:41] <koshar1> Leefmc: iam using a rev now but havnt bothered to set up the extra buttons
[00:41] <fsufitch> Nutzebahn: depends on the video card you're using
[00:42] <kcman1> rp3 there is no edit option
[00:42] <Kohlrak-Serve1> ﻿does anyone know the location of the user specific configuration files for the xserver?
[00:42] <cwill747> carandraug: you only need the iso9600 if you're mounting a .iso file i think
[00:42] <Leefmc> koshar1: On my laptop, half of the buttons worked by default. On my mac pro, basically nothing but the basic 3 buttons works. Ubuntu doesn't even see the mouse beyond a generic mouse.
[00:42] <fsufitch> Nutzebahn: any infoz on that?
[00:42] <Leefmc> koshar1: On my laptop it was a sinch, no idea why its so hard on my mac pro..
[00:42] <rp3> kcman1: sure there is you click on an item then you can turn it off or on, or add new items...
[00:42] <carandraug> cwill747: I did say I was not sure about that part. It's been a long time since I mounted a Cd from terminal
[00:43] <Nutzebahn> An Intel Integrated sound card.
[00:43] <cwill747> carandraug: yeah haha i gotcha. wasn't trying to insult your intelligence :)
[00:43] <newpers> i'm an arch linux user and am considering a switch to ubuntu.  i'm browsing through the hardy pacakges and notice that some of them are pretty old.  is there another place to grab more recent packages?
[00:43] <fsufitch> Nutzebahn: i'm talking about your video card, not sound card >_>
[00:43] <Nutzebahn> oops
[00:43] <Nutzebahn> sorry
[00:43] <fsufitch> it's okay ;)
[00:43] <Nutzebahn> An Intel Integrated video card.
[00:43] <carandraug> newpers: you can try intrepid
[00:43] <Nutzebahn> I don't know where my brain is.
[00:44] <newpers> carandraug: thanks
[00:44] <ryaxnb> Ususally if you have most video cards, you go System>Preferences>screen Resolution>Color Depth
[00:44] <fsufitch> Nutzebahn: we all have those days
[00:44] <ryaxnb> In GNOME
[00:44] <kcman1> rp3 there is only add to panel new panel properties and so on but no edit
[00:44] <koshar1> Sake you want runtime change?
[00:44] <cwill747> newpers: you can also envy things
[00:44] <newpers> intrepid is the next release?
[00:44] <fsufitch> Nutzebahn: i'm not sure how to do it via GUI for intel cards, but i can tell you the command line way to do it
[00:44] <cwill747> newpers: yes
[00:44] <carandraug> newpers: no problem. It's the developmental version of Ubuntu. Good luck with it
[00:44] <Kohlrak-Serve1> when ever i log in, my desktop doesn't appear. Any ideas?
[00:45] <ryaxnb> Do you mean GDM or GNOME or KDE
[00:45] <fsufitch> Nutzebahn: "sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[00:45] <ryaxnb> Khlark
[00:45] <Sake> koshar1, I just want a way to restart my windowing environment when it craps out.
[00:45] <ryaxnb> er, Kohlark
[00:45] <ryaxnb> er, kohlrak
[00:45] <newpers> ok, i just checked out intrepid.  the package i'm looking for there is still very old [it's in universe].
[00:45] <Rhodetrem> carandraug: can I install *only* Pidgin from the intrepid packages
[00:45] <cppmonkey> quick question, 4 internal HDD arnt mounting when the PC is booted, you have to click them in the menu to mount them which is no good as they could mount in any order screwing up Samba share
[00:46] <fsufitch> Nutzebahn: find the section thatis called Section "Screen" and find the option in it that says DefaultDepth
[00:46] <fsufitch> change that number to whatever you want
[00:46] <kcman1> rp3 i got it i have to unlock the item itself
[00:46] <fsufitch> save the file, and restart your comp
[00:46] <Kohlrak-Serve1> ryanxnb, gdm seems to start as i get the login screen, but after i go as far as logging in the screen went black, i think my screen resolution is set to null or something, but i have no idea how to find or edit it
[00:46] <ryaxnb> Because, kohlrak, there's auto-login, and there's just getting a CLI at boot, which is consideably worse
[00:46] <Miyavix3> Can I program buttons on my keyboard to forward and back(generic)
[00:46] <Miyavix3> ?
[00:46] <kynphlee> how do i autoload modules in ubuntu 8.04?
[00:47] <carandraug> Rhodetrem: looking for the 2.5 version, aren't we? MSNP15 support? You can download the deb file. It should work fine
[00:47] <Kohlrak-Serve1> ryanxnb, i would try to manually edit the file with vim, but i don't know where to begin with that.
[00:47] <jebblue> ﻿newpers https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports
[00:47] <koshar1> Sake so how would you enter the command if you couldnt use the keyboard? are you looking at a watchdog file to restart gnome ect? look here for a comamnd line
[00:47] <koshar1> http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en/books/handbook/x11-wm.html
[00:48] <Rhodetrem> carandraug: that's right ;) can I update it via apt-get?
[00:48] <Sake> koshar1, I usually can ctrl-alt-f1 to a console
[00:48] <Kohlrak-Serve1> ryanxb, you still there?
[00:49] <Nutzebahn> fsufitch, I don't see a DefaultDepth option.
[00:49] <fsufitch> Nutzebahn: could you privmsg me with what you do see?
[00:49] <Nutzebahn> Yes.
[00:51] <koshar1> Sake does your cont alt backsace retern you to gdm?
[00:51] <godmode117> nothing im trying is working
[00:51] <carandraug> Rhodetrem: I never tried it but in theory, you should be able to add the intrepid repositories to your list, update pidgin, and then remove it from the list. This would make taking care of dependencies easier than just downloading the deb file. Also, I've heard you can get msnp15 support with previous versions if you compile it yourself and make a small changes. The code for has been there for quite soem time but had some bugs
[00:51] <godmode117> please help
[00:51] <godmode117> its giving me nothing when i insert a blank cd or dvd
[00:51] <Kohlrak-Serve1> anyone know where the gnome user spefic resolution settings are?
[00:52] <koshar1> Sake killall gnome-panel
[00:52] <anom01y> how do I get kmix to show all the sound volumes for my card? 50% of the time I reboot it works, and other 50% it only shows a few controls (and no input controls)
[00:52] <cppmonkey> how do I stop Ubuntu recognizing my internet hdds as removable?
[00:52] <carandraug> Kohlrak-Serve1: maybe somewhere in .gconf. You lookied there?
[00:52] <Devil-1> hi all is here sombody how can help me whit tracing from a ip from how it is becas my firlfriend is be hackt and i want to know how is was but if i typ whois and than the ip than i get tis
[00:52] <Devil-1> Peer 1 Network Inc. PEER1-BLK-06 (NET-65-39-128-0-1)
[00:52] <Devil-1>                                   65.39.128.0 - 65.39.255.255
[00:52] <Devil-1> QITX Inc. PEER1-QITX-33 (NET-65-39-175-0-1)
[00:52] <Devil-1>                                   65.39.175.0 - 65.39.175.63
[00:52] <Devil-1> # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2008-08-23 19:10
[00:52] <Devil-1> # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.
[00:52] <FloodBot1> Devil-1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:52] <koshar1> Sake or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[00:53] <Kohlrak-Serve1> carandraug, i would try, but i need something more specific than that because i can't see anything on the computer that needs fix, and this one uses kde i think
[00:53] <jebblue> ﻿cppmonkey try System, Prefs, Removable Drives and Media
[00:53] <Miyavix3> Sorry, restarted my computer. Is there a way to program a button to go forward and back in windows and web browser?
[00:53] <andycaz> how to search inside file contents? i know i should use grep but with which vars?
[00:54] <carandraug> Kohlrak-Serve1: ok. One minute. I'll see if I find it on mine
[00:54] <cached> "startx" after ssh -x (server ip here) -> "X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.". What do i need to do to give permissions to this user?
[00:54] <Kohlrak-Serve1> thanks carandraug
[00:54] <Miyavix3> sudo?
[00:54] <Kohlrak-Serve1> Miyavix3: i would highly doubt it
[00:54] <jebblue> ﻿andycaz i use grep -irl also check "man grep"
[00:55] <Miyavix3> Kohlrak, why not? That's kinda silly that there's no forward and back... I have them on my Thinkpad.
[00:55] <Kohlrak-Serve1> Miyavix3: iirc, you can only boot one thing at a time. However, there's always wine for compatable programs and vm ware for what isn't compatable
[00:55] <Miyavix3> o_o
[00:55] <Miyavix3> not windows OS, like a file browser
[00:55] <Miyavix3> File browsers and firefox
[00:56] <Kohlrak-Serve1> don't know about what they are on the keyboard (but i'm sure they are there somewhere), but there should be GUI buttons (which i use)
[00:56] <andycaz> jebblue: but that syntax only works on files inside the same dir? can it be made to work with subdirs?
[00:56] <cppmonkey> jebblue, the only thing that is enabled is Digital Camera, nothing todo with wanting to call my HDs removable. now I could just mod fstab but then if I went though 'Places' it might screw it up still
[00:56] <Kohlrak-Serve1> actually, for the file browser, you should be able to just click the folder name beside the one you're in and it'll go to that indirection (left to go up)
[00:56] <carandraug> Kohlrak-Serve1: take a look at .gconf/desktop/gnome/screen/default/0/%gconf.xml
[00:57] <Sake> koshar1, yea, that should work. I'll try it out when I'm done my work. ;)
[00:57] <Kohlrak-Serve1> alrighty, thanks. I'll see what i can do with that carandraug
[00:57] <jebblue> ﻿andycaz -r read about it in man grep
[00:57] <mds58> I can get my new ubuntu install to boot pleas help :S
[00:57] <carandraug> Kohlrak-Serve1: no problem. Hope it helps
[00:58] <jebblue> ﻿cppmonkey good point
[00:58] <Kohlrak-Serve1> miyavix3: however, worst case scenario, i'm sure both programs are open source and do have keyboard shortcuts for some things, just a matter of finding out where that is and what the functions for back and forward are
[00:58] <Miyavix3> that's why I'm here... I don't know where they are.
[00:59] <yuri_> hey guys, Q: how do i set up an audible alarm when my cpu hits 90+ degrees? im thinking of a system beep
[01:00] <xomp> is there a package for mysql for ubuntu?
[01:00] <help_my_life_is_> Hello ubunters. Anyone know how to disable "Low Graphics Mode" completely?
[01:00] <xomp> I tried doing a search on "MySQL" in synaptic but nothing returned.
[01:00] <coraline> why doesn't this x-chat let me hide joins/parts/quits?
[01:01] <yuri_> xomp: its mysql-server or mysql-server-5.0
[01:01] <xomp> yuri_, oh ok, thanks :)
[01:01] <yuri_> xomp: and its case sensitive. use lower case letters
[01:01] <yuri_> xomp: all packages will be in lowercase
[01:02] <jebblue> ﻿coraline i use Pidgin chat for irc but i think i recall xchat could do that http://forum.xchat.org/viewtopic.php?t=2568
[01:02] <Kohlrak-Serve1> xomp, if you also want apache and php, tasksel and select "LAMP"
[01:02] <xomp> thanks yuri_ :)
[01:02] <coraline> jebblue: it can't as far as I can see
[01:02] <coraline> jebblue: perhaps I'll try compiling from sores.
[01:03] <alphae> I am Formatted PC, and IP Changed, and Channed MAC Address, but I dont removed Geme Web Page, Why is remove At BAN ?
[01:03] <jebblue> coraline: ouch have fun
[01:03] <coraline> ouch?
[01:03] <jebblue> coraline jk :)
[01:03] <DaFunks> Hi. Can anyone give me some info on how to install a persistent USB version of Ubuntu through a Windows XP OS
[01:04] <mds58> new insall of ubuntu..... what do I need to type in camand line when it prompts me with (initramfs)?????
[01:04] <alphae> I am Formatted PC, and IP Changed, and Channed MAC Address, but I dont removed Geme Web Page, Why is remove At BAN ?
[01:04] <stryd_one> dafunks: much easier to boot to the live media and work from there
[01:05] <DaFunks> I did try but had issues. I cant remember what it was now
[01:05] <DaFunks> Oh yea. I could not connect to the internet so had issues with apt get
[01:05] <stryd_one> well you'll have the same problem in the persistent version. fix that first.
[01:06] <coraline> configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[01:06] <DaFunks> Well i was hoping if i did the usb id be able to get the drivers working better
[01:06] <ThersiT> is all ubuntu needs as far as partitions / and swap?
[01:06] <coraline> that's uh.  missing libstdc++ isn't it?
[01:06] <Starnestommy> coraline: you'll need to install build-essential
[01:06] <yuri_> ThersiT: technically you dont need swap, you can make a file inside your partition that will act as swap
[01:06] <fluffman> DaFunks: there's a great tutorial for that over at http://www.pendrivelinux.net
[01:07] <alphae> I am Formatted PC, and IP Changed, and Channed MAC Address, but I dont removed Geme Web Page, Why is remove At BAN ?
[01:07] <alphae> ??????
[01:07] <DaFunks> That is what i used Fluffman
[01:07] <ThersiT> but i don't need /boot or anything?
[01:07] <coraline> Starnestommy: apt-get install build-essential?
[01:07] <r4b> i have removed the applications menu from the top panel. how can i open add remove programs?
[01:07] <Starnestommy> coraline: yes
[01:07] <coraline> Starnestommy: merci
[01:07] <DaFunks> It has a part with"syslinux mtools" that i cant get as i dont have wifi when i boot from livecd
[01:08] <eitreach> How come Amarok can play my wmas, while Gnome-based players can't?
[01:08] <fluffman> that have a tut on how to do it from windows I think
[01:08] <eitreach> I've installed w32codecs.
[01:08] <coraline> Starnestommy: cannot find GLIB.  Would you know that one as well? =-)
[01:08] <DaFunks> The only windows part it ads to to restart to live CD :P
[01:09] <fluffman> oh my bad...i did the pendrivelinux distro from within linux
[01:09] <Starnestommy> coraline: install libglib2.0-dev
[01:09] <fluffman> *pendrivelinux from within windows
[01:09] <coraline> Starnestommy: You're my hero. :)
[01:10] <DaFunks> humm. i dont see that one
[01:10] <eitreach>  How come Amarok can play my wmas, while Gnome-based players can't?
[01:11] <mds58> ubuntu is killing me what do I need to enter when it promts me with (initramfs) and wont boot the gui?
[01:11] <carandraug> r4b: you want to open it with the terminal or bring that menu back to the panel?
[01:11] <WaY> hello
[01:11] <r4b> terminal or alt f2 m,enu
[01:11] <carandraug> r4b: gnome-app-install
[01:12] <r4b> i like the pancheers
[01:12] <r4b> oops
[01:12] <fluffman> DaFunks: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2008/02/13/pendrivelinux-2008-install-from-windows/ works really well
[01:12] <fluffman> it's optimized for a thumdrive
[01:12] <adilson> for compiling stuff in ubuntu is the package called build-essential?
[01:12] <r4b> i meant thank you
[01:12] <DaFunks> Thanks. i dont think this is Ubuntu though
[01:12] <DaFunks> But ill try it
[01:12] <ozzloy> my update from 7.11 to 8.04 has been stalled at "12 minutes" for about an hour.  is it safe to kill it?
[01:12] <favro> adilson: yep
[01:12] <ozzloy> or can i get some help with this?
[01:13] <platyhelminth_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXJZXR5Qb-8
[01:13] <fluffman> DaFunks: yeah it's not ubuntu, but it's really simple
[01:13] <adilson> favro: ty
[01:13] <AMDXP> is there a way in the update manager to not update the kernel headers
[01:13] <DaFunks> thanks
[01:14] <DaFunks> What ill do is try DSL as i know that system. ill try to get the net working on it then install ubuntu using that :) http://www.pendrivelinux.com/2007/01/02/all-in-one-usb-dsl/
[01:15] <DaFunks> Thanks everyone
[01:15] <coraline> Can
[01:15] <coraline> Can't find GTK?  Not building GTK Frontend?
[01:16] <adilson> im running xubuntu on a low end system and synaptic takes a while isnt there another package that does the same thing?
[01:16] <Kernel> hello all. i just started seeing these errors in dmesg: http://pastebin.com/m5915d6c6   ....thats on a lvm partition...should i run fsck on it? or what should i do?
[01:17] <Kohlrak-Serve1> does anyone know how to remove a directory that's not empty?
[01:17] <steveydoteu> Kohlrak-Serve1, in waht context
[01:17] <Kohlrak-Serve1> steveydoteu: i'm trying to delete .gnome and .gconf
[01:17] <Devourer> Is there a way to invoke a GUI app from the console, but make it so you can close the console and it won't close the app?
[01:18] <stunatra> Kohlrak-Serve1, rm -rf but be careful with that command
[01:18] <unop> Devourer, nohup command
[01:18] <Kohlrak-Serve1> stunatra, thank you i will. i'll purposely forgt it after today XD
[01:18] <Devourer> unop, thanks.
[01:18] <stunatra> you're welcome and good luck
[01:18] <eitreach> How can I make wma files play with Gnome-players like they do with Amarok?
[01:18] <unop> Kohlrak-Serve1, you can always refer to the rm manpage ...
[01:19] <Kohlrak-Serve1> unop, i always though rm was for files though, then there is this rmdir which i didn't know how t ouse
[01:19] <mixel> hi everyone
[01:19] <coraline> whiskey.  tango.  foxtrot.
[01:19] <HymnToLife> Kohlrak-Serve1: man rmdir ?
[01:19] <HymnToLife> but a directory is just a file that contains other files
[01:19] <carandraug> coraline: no swearing
[01:20] <Kohlrak-Serve1> HymnToLife, never thought of that to be honet....
[01:20] <unop> Kohlrak-Serve1, technically directories are files .. and rmdir only removes "empty direcories"
[01:20] <adilson> isnt there another packae that can replace synaptic bu for low end systems?
[01:20] <coraline> carandraug: excuse me?  who's swearing?
[01:20] <HymnToLife> Kohlrak-Serve1: basically, rmdir is the same as rm -r
[01:20] <unop> adilson, aptitude
[01:20] <carandraug> coraline: you're not the only one here with radio experience
[01:20] <IndyGunFreak> !jfgi | coraline
[01:20] <Kohlrak-Serve1> HymnToLife, ah, thank you
[01:21] <adilson> unop: i use that when i know what im looking for
[01:21] <unop> HymnToLife, not really .. rmdir only removes _really_ empty directories
[01:22] <Bruners> http://houghi.org/shots/vim001.gif funny :P
[01:22] <unop> adilson, aptitude can help you search for packages too
[01:23] <Flannel> Bruners: #ubuntu-offtopic, not here, thanks.
[01:24] <adilson> unop: well need to get used to it than, only use it to install packages but yeah isnt there another application?
[01:24] <Kohlrak-Serve1> um.... there seems to be a user spefic problem with gnome  where the screen goes black after i log in, and deleting .gconf and .gnome didn't work... anyone have any ideas?
[01:24] <eitreach>  How can I make wma files play with Gnome-players like they do with Amarok?
[01:24] <geek_> adilson: just use apt straight up
[01:24] <geek_> eitreach: probably will need w32codecs?
[01:24] <unop> adilson, not sure .. perhaps there is .. but aptitude is really powerful that others pale in comparison.
[01:24] <eitreach> geek_: already installed.
[01:25] <Devourer> unop, when using nohup, I can I still CTRL+C in the console, and the program will close. Also, I'd like to be able to use that same console.
[01:25] <unop> Devourer, nohup command &  # to send it into the background
[01:25] <adilson> unop, geek_: ok to run command /cofigure do i have to be in root or is it only for make & makeinstall
[01:26] <stickboy> hey all. i tried looking this up but all relevant articles i found were over a year old and didn't help. i just installed steam and a friend gave me a 3day pass to a game but when i click the link, firefox says it doesn't know how to open it because it doesn't recognize the application (steam). how do i get firefox to recognize steam? i'm on ubuntu 8.04 64bit.
[01:26] <unop> Devourer, or press CTRL+Z  to suspend the task currently in the foreground and type bg  to send it into the background
[01:26] <favro> !wma | eitreach seen these links?
[01:26] <Devourer> unop, I have to use #?
[01:26] <unop> Devourer,  # marks the beginning of a comment .. so no, but it doesn't matter
[01:27] <unop> adilson, you only need to be root for  make install
[01:27] <abbazabba> hello my fellow mariachi's
[01:27] <Devourer> unop, I think I've been using the & operator wrong. I would append it directly to the end of the line with no space. :o
[01:28] <abbazabba> is anybody else having a problem with 8.04, firefox 3 and youtube videos, having firefox close when any type of video tries to play?
[01:28] <unop> Devourer, most shells don't mind extraneous white-space
[01:28] <adilson> unop: ok ben a while since i had to compile packages hmmm forgetting a lot, setting a low end system for the parents to use "either this or give them windows"
[01:28] <mercutio22> My X just crashed while I was browsing the internet with firefox. How can I find out what is wrong?
[01:28] <eitreach> favro: yes, I've seen them. I'm just wondering why Amarok can play them, while Gnome-players can't.
[01:29] <dafydd> can anyone here help me with a gdm problem on ubuntu, please?
[01:29] <ozzloy> can anyone see this text?
[01:29] <dafydd> yes
[01:30] <jebblue> ﻿abbazabba not here
[01:30] <adilson> unop: just run ./configur an ot this error "configure: error: Idesk requires the X Window System libraries and headers" would you tell me how i can fix this?
[01:30] <unop> Kohlrak-Serve1, were you ever able to log on to your desktop?
[01:30] <meteoroid> hey folks i tried to install selinux and selinux-policy-refpolicy, and i get an error installing the selinux package: "GRUB configuration file not found"
[01:30] <guesswho> any ideas why my usb drive wont work with innotek virtualbox? this is the error Could not load the Host USB Proxy Service (VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND). The service might be not installed on the host computer.
[01:30] <unop> adilson, sudo apt-get build-dep idesk  # before you run ./configure
[01:31] <hosk> OpenGL games like Regnum Online and Americas Army give me weird alternating white lines on startup screens, textures, and all sorts of other stuff. I have a GeForce FX 5500, anybody know why/how to determine/how to fix?
[01:31] <unop> meteoroid, try this.   sudo update-grub
[01:31] <geek_> adilson: ./configure dosen't need to be root IIRC
[01:31] <abbazabba> jebblue: i'm actually pretty shocked no one else has
[01:31] <Devourer> Why are there no man entries for jobs, fg, and bg?
[01:31] <dafydd> My problem with gdm is on bootup gdm loads and then displays the login page for one second, then it reloads it again
[01:31] <guesswho> what is the . for in linux? why ./configure
[01:31] <Devourer> Are they not commands?
[01:31] <adilson> unop: ok the instructions just sai to run ./configure :/ i wish they were more precise
[01:32] <Devourer> Or, binaries I mean.
[01:32] <guesswho> to execute them?
[01:32] <adilson> geek_: yah
[01:32] <unop> Devourer, because they are bash builtins ... help fg, help bg, etc
[01:32] <Devourer> guesswho, stands for current directory.
[01:32] <jebblue> ﻿abbazabba one thing I do is keep mpzplugger installed to iron out how to play videos - usually works well
[01:32] <Kohlrak-Serve1> unop, sorry, didn't know you imed me... And yes i was able... This problem of mine happened after i tried to switch the buffer off. THat worked fine actually.THe problem was after i tried to fix the resolution because ubuntu doesn't agree with my card for some reason on the default resolution setting.
[01:32] <Devourer> unop, oh. Thanks.
[01:32] <keidori> i installed the madwifi driver for my aspire on a bareubuntu install and when i reboot i cant get my wireless back up and i did put the interface in the startup
[01:32] <keidori> any ideas
[01:32] <guesswho> Devourer: i see so . is not an actual command, just a linux wildcard term for the current directory
[01:33] <Devourer> guesswho, yeah. And .. stands for the directory above the current one.
[01:33] <adilson> unop: after doing that i should be able to run ./configure without a problem?
[01:33] <meteoroid> unop: hm, odd, that throws an error itself.. i'm in a managed xen vm, so perhaps it doesn't use grub?
[01:33] <guesswho> Devourer; thanks
[01:33] <unop> guesswho, not really a wildcard
[01:33] <unop> adilson, yes
[01:33] <guesswho> well.. it helps me understand linux lingo a little better
[01:33] <unop> Kohlrak-Serve1, try removing the gnome-randr-applet package if it is installed and log in
[01:34] <Devourer> unop, would you term it as a special character?
[01:34] <Kohlrak-Serve1> unop: alright, i'll try that.
[01:34] <unop> Devourer, it's a special file actually
[01:34] <Aric> what are you talking about
[01:34] <Devourer> unop, it's a file?
[01:35] <unop> Devourer, yep .. technically directories are files
[01:35] <Devourer> unop, oh, strange. I never knew that. =]
[01:35] <guesswho> yes, even in windows they are :)
[01:35] <unop> guesswho, yes, even in windows . and .. mean the same things
[01:35] <Devourer> I haven't messed much with file systems.
[01:36] <Leefmc> Question: How do you view a commands output in the manpage format? Ie, if you are not able to scroll (no mouse) and you need to read through pages of terminal output, there is a command you can type to slowly display the output of another command.. what is it?
[01:36] <guesswho> well, its good to know this stuff im a complete linux noob and just learning how to use, ubuntu is a easy transition from windows
[01:36] <unop> Leefmc, less
[01:36] <Kohlrak-Serve1> unop: i can't seem to remove that package... says that it's not installed.
[01:36] <unop> Leefmc, command | less
[01:36] <dafydd> does anyone know how to start a gnome session on the terminal? Even though gdm is having problems I can get to a terminal over tty1
[01:36] <Leefmc> unop: Ty
[01:36] <ApprenticeBuntu> Question guys/girls: So hey, I've got dual monitors going on a NVidia card, but I can't get the resolution on my secondary monitor past 640X480 and it's hidious, anyone have any ideas?
[01:37] <Leefmc> unop: I have a hell of a time remembering that heh :)
[01:37] <mdkaneda55> dafydd: did u try "startx"
[01:37] <smmagic> !fixres
[01:37] <shingen> ApprenticeBuntu: what drivers are you using/
[01:37] <smmagic> That ApprenticeBuntu
[01:37] <dafydd> yeah I get a fatal server error
[01:37] <unop> Kohlrak-Serve1, hmm.  not sure then. see what ubottu just said
[01:37] <dafydd> says that server is already active for display 0
[01:37] <Dr_willis> dafydd,   if gdm is running - it may say that.. kill the gdm service
[01:37] <Kohlrak-Serve1> unop, i was just looking at that too. I think it might be able to help.
[01:37] <dafydd> I guess because x is starting alright, but gdm is having problems
[01:38] <Leefmc> unop: On the same subject, if you screw up your xorg, how do you fix it with a default ubuntu installation? The reason i ask, is because on my system i would hit "ctrl t" because that is bound to the terminal, but that is not default.. how do you access the terminal without the mouse, on a default install?
[01:38] <Kohlrak-Serve1> unop: if not, i'll be back. XD
[01:38] <mixel> hi can everyone help me whit a old pcchips 548lmrt my mouse ps/2 dont work
[01:38] <dafydd> ok, so sudo gdm --k
[01:38] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  at the gdm login screen under sessions there may be a 'failsafe terminal' try that one and try the command 'gnome-session' in the terminal
[01:38] <smmagic> !fixres > ApprenticeBuntu
[01:38] <GL-san> ctrl+alt+f2 will give you a terminal
[01:38] <mixel> hi can everyone help me whit a old pcchips 548lmrt my mouse ps/2 dont work
[01:38] <unop> Leefmc, alt+f2  and type  gnome-terminal  .. or  ctrl+alt+f1  to get a virtual terminal  (ctrl+alt+f7 to get back)
[01:39] <dafydd> @Dr_willis unfortunately I can't click on the options when gdm starts because there isn't enough time to move the cursor to that button before gdm reloads itself
[01:39] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  also you could try starting gnome as a different user. It sounds like it MIGHT be some gnome setting messing things up
[01:39] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  so gdm is starting and crashing that fast eh? thats... odd...
[01:39] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  that sounds more like some X config/driver issue then.
[01:40] <dafydd> yeah, after an update I just did today, been away from the comp for about 2 weeks and did an update. after wards no applications could be started but I could use the gnome panel to safely shutdown the computer
[01:40] <Leefmc> unop: So what are those  btw? I've never heard a "true" description of what they are? (The alt+ctrl+fx" terminals), are they actually just virtual terminals?
[01:41] <mixel> hi can everyone help me whit a old pcchips 548lmrt my mouse ps/2 dont work
[01:41] <unop> Leefmc, virtual terminals or consoles perhaps
[01:41] <guesswho> Im trying to run a USB drive into a virtual windows xp pro machine useing innotek virtual machine and it keeps giving me this error "Could not load the Host USB Proxy Service (VERR_FILE_NOT_FOUND). The service might be not installed on the host computer." any ideas please?
[01:41] <AMDfanboy> SUPER SIMPLE - i made a directory /docs, but it won't let me write to it, because its at the root and owned by root, how do i change that?
[01:41] <Leefmc> unop: So any idea why #7 is the "real" one? Seems like an odd number heh
[01:41] <unop> AMDfanboy, sudo chown $USER.$USER /docs
[01:42] <Leefmc> unop: And what happens if you load up a desktop in #1-6?
[01:42] <unop> Leefmc, #7 isn't the real one, it's just another one .. X just happens to choose it because the previous 6 have been used .. if you change the number of virtual terminals, X will choose the next available one to use
[01:43] <knopf_> hi. is there a way to see why '/etc/init.d/mysql start' failed?
[01:43] <AMDfanboy> unop: USER in caps?
[01:43] <Leefmc> unop: So 6 is used? Interesting
[01:43] <dafydd> knopf, run from terminal?
[01:43] <unop> AMDfanboy, $USER as is .. yes, in CAPS with the preceding $ too
[01:43] <knopf_> dafydd: yes
[01:43] <dafydd> hmm
[01:44] <jebblue> ﻿knopf try /var/log/mysql.log
[01:44] <jebblue> ﻿knopf or ask on a mysql site
[01:44] <Dr_willis> AMDfanboy,  $USER gets expaned to the current users name. try 'echo $USER' to see the effect.
[01:44] <danopia_> hi
[01:45] <danopia_> i was pinged?
[01:45] <knopf_> jebblue: well, the logs are empty. everything worked until I used aptitude to uninstall mediawiki
[01:45] <knopf_> jebblue: so i think it's a problem in ubuntu
[01:45]  * danopia_ wonders who pinged him
[01:45] <qoncept> is there a way to list my samba shares from the command line?
[01:45] <AMDfanboy> ah right. i was putting in $BRAD, thanks!
[01:45] <Cpudan80> * Ping reply from danopia_: 0.64 second(s)
[01:45] <unop> qoncept, smbtree
[01:45] <Cpudan80> :-)
[01:45]  * danopia_ greps his logs for danopia
[01:46] <qoncept> uncorq,  thanks
[01:46] <AeronTS> i downloaded the latest version of firefox, but when i run it and check the "about" box it stills says i'm running 2.0.0.6   why is that?
[01:47] <uncorq> qoncept, what's I do? ;)
[01:47] <qoncept> unop i mean
[01:47] <unop> knopf_, try this.  sudo aptitude reinstall '~i mysql'
[01:47] <danopia_> mylogs so no one pinged me.. xhcat fails
[01:47] <knopf_> unop: will this erase my databases?
[01:47] <unop> knopf_, no
[01:47] <qoncept> i'm having a hell of a time getting my smb share working from my dd-wrt router to this box
[01:48] <keidori> i installed the madwifi driver for my aspire on a bareubuntu install and when i reboot i cant get my wireless back up and i did put the interface in the startup
[01:48] <keidori> any ideas
[01:48] <keidori> ?
[01:48] <unop> knopf_, you could also do this after that.  sudo aptitude install -f
[01:48] <Kohlrak-Serve1> unop, it seems that i the stuff ubottu said didn't help. Is there anyway to reset all gnome and xserver settings?
[01:48] <Dr_willis> qoncept,  try mounting the shares manually - not using the gnome file manager browsing - Ive seen issues with the gnome file manager befor
[01:49] <qoncept> i'm getting Connection to 192.168.1.1 failed (Error NT_STATUS_CONNECTION_REFUSED)
[01:49] <dafydd> this is strange, after I get into tty1 to try and kill gdm using ps -xwff | grep "gdm" I get a pid number for gdm but then when I type the same thing again I get a new pid number, so I can't kill gdm this way
[01:49] <dafydd> probably because it's constantly restarting itself
[01:50] <qoncept> the router doesn't have smbtree so i'm not sure the share is even working
[01:50] <unop> Kohlrak-Serve1, you could create a new home directory after backing up the current one ..
[01:50] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  its a service.. you use the service scripts to tell it to stop
[01:50] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[01:50] <dafydd> ahh
[01:50] <dafydd> oops
[01:50] <unop> dafydd, killing gdm that way is asking for trouble.
[01:50] <Dr_willis> i wonderd where you got the gdm --k stuff from dafydd  :)
[01:51] <dafydd> heh I'm a pretty major noob
[01:51] <dafydd> but startx is working now
[01:51] <dafydd> I can see my desktop
[01:51] <Dr_willis> I thought if X/gdm started/crashed so many times in so many sec... that it would automatically 'stop'
[01:51] <knopf_> unop: that did it
[01:51] <knopf_> unop: you're my hero
[01:51] <dafydd> and now firefox is trying to load itself a lot
[01:52] <oem_> anyone seen glitsj6 or 16
[01:52] <keidori> dose any one know about the madwifi driver?
[01:52] <unop> !donate | knopf_  :)
[01:52] <Dr_willis> !madwifi
[01:52] <keidori> what about the documentation?
[01:53] <dafydd> k so Dr_willis I made some progress! now I have a desktop and conky loaded, no gnome panel and no icons. I got this after I killed gdm and did startx
[01:54] <unop> dafydd, reinstall gdm perhaps to fix the issue.  sudo aptitude reinstall gdm
[01:54] <dafydd> alright, back to tty1!
[01:54] <tragik> can anyone help me with a quick mounting question?
[01:54] <unop> tragik, ask not ask to ask :)
[01:55] <tragik> haha. Alright then. I need help with getting my /media/disk/ windows partition to mount on startup. any tips?
[01:55] <unop> !fstab | tragik
[01:56] <tragik> hrm ok ill take a look. thanks.
[01:56] <_paneb> in gentoo i had a ~/.profile, but now that i moved to ubuntu, i keep on getting an error saying my X session did not last more than 10 seconds, unless i remove ~/.profile - how do i get my bash settings loaded?
[01:57] <Kohlrak-Serve1> can anyone with a default /etc/sudoers paste bin it for me?
[01:57] <unop> _paneb, ~/.bash* actually
[01:57] <unop> _paneb, what is in your ~/.profile ?
[01:57] <_paneb> unop, i moved .profile to .bashrc, but it's not working
[01:58] <_paneb> unop, it fails with some "declare -x ..."
[01:58] <necocool> Opa
[01:58] <necocool> olá gostaria de uma ajuda ?
[01:58] <douglas> ex-chat
[01:58] <unop> _paneb,  if you can pastebin the output of  source ~/.bashrc   that'd be great
[01:59] <unop> !es | necocool
[01:59] <Kohlrak-Serve1> !br | necocool
[01:59] <_paneb> unop, there is no output, it just changes my PS1 to the one i wanted
[01:59] <necocool> ok
[01:59] <unop> _paneb, so how do you know it fails?
[02:00] <_paneb> unop, like i said, when i log in, it says my X session did not last more than 10 seconds, and i can click a "Details" button
[02:00] <mattmatteh> new to ubuntu, i was trying to install enlightenment and got an error.  i googled and found bug 223746.  should i be installing e17, e17, or enlightenment  ?  i am not familair with enlightenment either, thought i would try it
[02:00] <FAJALOU> hi how can i delete bookmarks in places?
[02:00] <tragik> unop, any tips on moding fstab? No idea on anything other than the mount point.
[02:00] <unop> _paneb, chances are .. source ~/.bashrc is going to give you the same errors .. because that is what the gnome-session tries to do
[02:00] <hosk> OpenGL games like Regnum Online and Americas Army give me weird alternating white lines on startup screens, textures, and all sorts of other stuff. I have a GeForce FX 5500, anybody know why/how to determine/how to fix?
[02:01] <_paneb> unop, it fails when i have the same file named ./profile
[02:01] <hosk> i have pictures.
[02:01] <unop> tragik, it's simple.  UUID="xxxxxxxxxxxx" /media/mount_point ext3 rw,user,defaults 0 1
[02:01] <cleidson> opa
[02:02] <unop> _paneb, try it out. does sourcing either one of those files give you any errors at all?
[02:02] <cleidson> como faço para atualizar o meu firefox..sou novo
[02:02] <tragik> okay thanks unop. do I find the uuid just looking at drive props?
[02:02] <carandraug> !pt | cleidson
[02:02] <unop> tragik, you can find it out by   sudo blkid /dev/sdXX
[02:02] <tragik> alright, thanks
[02:02] <cleidson> oi
[02:02] <cleidson> como assim?
[02:03] <sacamano> Hi, got a question. I'm on Ubuntu, what's a good simple program that can burn videos to DVD format. Like Nero converts and burns for Windows, I'm looking fo rthat on ubuntu
[02:03] <hitman1985> sup all, any1 here who knows how i can make my (FTP) server folder of a rented linux server visible (password protected) over firefox or explorer ?
[02:03] <carandraug> cleidson: vai ao canal #ubuntu-pt
[02:03] <cleidson> hum
[02:04] <unop> hitman1985, just navigate to ftp://url ?
[02:04] <mdkaneda55> hitman1985: ftp://uname:pword@ftpserver.com:port
[02:04] <m0u5e> sacamano: try brasero? theres also a DeVeDe
[02:05] <sacamano> brasero works for it, m0u5e?
[02:05] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  make a .xinitrc file that contains 2 lines.. 'gnome-session' and 'exec xterm' and try startx again :) you should get gnome
[02:05] <hitman1985> mdkaneda55, i only want like one single folder :(
[02:05] <Dr_willis> sacamano,  in many ways i perfer 'DeVeDe' on linux to nero
[02:06] <dafydd> the .xinitrc file would go in my home folder right? /home/david
[02:06] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  yes.. thers where most all .CONFIG files go
[02:06] <unop> Dr_willis, exec gnome-session   should be enough .. as the script will fail if xterm is unavailable
[02:06] <hitman1985> mdkaneda55, think that works over same skript ?
[02:06] <mdkaneda55> hmm... like to give the info to someone else to see only whats in 1 folder, not the whole account?
[02:06] <unop> dafydd, right
[02:06] <Dr_willis> unop,  i forget.. xterm isent included by default?  :) how.. annoying.. heh
[02:06] <Dr_willis> unop,  but if gnome-sessin fails at least he will see somthing on the screen.
[02:07] <cleidson> qual comando para atualizar o meu firefox
[02:07] <dafydd> alright, oh yeah dr_willis when I kill gdm and startx I can see the gnome panel flash briefly for a bit and then it just loads conky which doesn't flash
[02:07] <Dr_willis> unop,  of course Ive no idea why his gdm would be crashing :( thats the bigger issue.
[02:07] <unop> Dr_willis, errm, if you mean  it will be spit out to the console, yes
[02:07] <dafydd> seems like it does the same sort of thin that gdm is doing
[02:07] <tragik> unop does this look right? UUID=322E10EE2E10AD3B /media/disk ntfs rw nosuid nodev noatime relatime user_id=0 group_id=0 allow_other 0 0
[02:07] <sacamano> #ubuntu-br
[02:07] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  yep. seems weird...
[02:07] <sacamano> ~#ubuntu-br
[02:08] <cleidson> qual apt para atualizar meu firefox
[02:08] <cleidson> ?
[02:08] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  see any error messages in the console when it exits?
[02:08] <unop> tragik, no .. options are to be delimited by commas i.e. rw,nosuid,nodev,etc
[02:08] <tragik> ah I see. thanks. other than that everything good unop?
[02:08] <unop> tragik, looks good .. though i would quote the UUID with double quotes like i showed you
[02:09] <unop> tragik, and you might want to use ntfs-3g instead of ntfs if you wish for write access to the volume.
[02:09] <dafydd> Dr_willis, nope, no error messages
[02:09] <tragik> ahh okay unop. thanks, the reason I didnt " the uuid is because the rest of the fstab did not use it. ill fix the ntfs FS error, thanks!!
[02:10] <mdkaneda55> hitman1985: u can navigate to a folder that way, ftp://name:pword@whatever.com/absolute/location/... but once there you'll be logged in so u can navigate back to root and so forth...
[02:10] <Zikey> Hi, in which order are executed script for example in /etc/rc3.d wih the same NN ? is it random or alphabetically ?
[02:10] <hitman1985> mdkaneda55, oh oh, i dont want to do that :(
[02:10] <ApprenteBuntu> Question: NVidia's X Server app only believes my secondary screen can handle 640x480 or lower, anyone help me change it..? I have the newest nvidia drivers..
[02:10] <unop> Zikey, lexicographically . i.e. alphanumerically
[02:10] <Zikey> thx unop :)
[02:11] <hitman1985> mdkaneda55, i just want to basicly share one folder with my peps to have them explore it on their firefox or so on, because they are older generation and dont know ftp too much
[02:11] <LF73> hi what's the cli command to copy a directory and all its subdirectories to a different directory?
[02:11] <cleidson> como faço para atualizar meu firefox
[02:11] <unop> LF73, cp -a source_dir  dest_dir
[02:12] <bazhang> cleidson, english or /join #ubuntu-br
[02:12] <LF73> ah ok thanks
[02:12] <mdkaneda55> hitman1985: so its  rented linux server.. is it webspace? can u create a seperate ftp account just for these purposes and have its home dir be the dir u want to share?
[02:13] <hitman1985> mdkaneda55, yes that would be the easy way :)
[02:13] <hitman1985> mdkaneda55, why didnt i think of that :(
[02:13] <bazhang> cleidson, type:     /join #ubuntu-br   <--------
[02:14] <hitman1985> mdkaneda55, thanks i ll go try that out lil quick :) and yes its webspace from 1and1 :-) germany
[02:15] <mdkaneda55> kewl deal, hitman1985.. =) glad to be of service to ya. heh
[02:15] <dafydd> Dr_willis, I tried making the .xinitrc file but nothing new happened after I made it and did startx. When I pressed ctrl+alt+f1 I got back to the terminal to see any error messages from x but instead now I'm getting an error from nm-applet that I normally see everytime I shutdown my computer safely from gnome. It just keeps on printing the same error from nm-applet on the screen
[02:15] <dafydd> but nm-applet it working well, I just have a sketchy workaround for it so that I can get ndiswrapper to work
[02:16] <hitman1985> mdkaneda55, i love the ubuntu community tho i got to admitt that, since  i traded from a money junky called M$ :)
[02:17] <mdkaneda55> yup yup, buncha cooler than school geeks in this community. =) lol
[02:18] <AeronTS> i downloaded the latest version of firefox, but when i run it and check the "about" box it stills says i'm running 2.0.0.6   why is that?
[02:18] <hitman1985> mdkaneda55, so ima just create basicly ftp account and make a public folder, easier to keep track of :)
[02:19] <lumbang> treee
[02:19] <bazhang> !id | lumbang
[02:19] <tuchki> hi, i've compiled pidgin 2.5.0 but i can start it. i made ./configure make and make install
[02:20] <mdkaneda55> hitman1985: just make a new account, make the home dir be the dir u wanna share.... so they cant navigate back basically.. then if the person's in windows, they can even view that folder via a network share in windows xp network places if u can walk 'em thru that... =)
[02:20] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  you got somthing weird going on. Im just not sure what.
[02:20] <dafydd> Dr_willis, hah yeah, I'm going to avoid the problem and reinstall ubuntu
[02:20] <adilson> !idesk
[02:20] <hitman1985> i can create ftp users for just a specific folder, with permissions just for that one :) hope that works then
[02:21] <hitman1985> mdkaneda55, i can create ftp users for just a specific folder, with permissions just for that one :) hope that works then
[02:21] <hitman1985> :)
[02:21] <dafydd> just got to move some stuff over to my thumb drive, I'm sooo glad I made a seperate partition just for my data
[02:21] <l3d> dam dvd playback is a pain to get
[02:21] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  is this an ATI video card?
[02:21] <Kohlrak-Serve1> anyone know the command line for the "restricted drivers" thinger?
[02:21] <greendot> if anyone in here was here earlier, i just want you all to know i got NDISWrapper installed fine, but for some reason it won't work with my wireless adapter unlike the walkthrough said
[02:21] <dafydd> Dr_willis, yessir
[02:21] <fxtgear> l3d: just use VLC
[02:21] <dafydd> with the closed source driver and all
[02:22] <greendot> koshar1: thanks for the help, did it your way, but it still won't connect me for some reason
[02:22] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  i had an issue ages ago where I had to not use the 'fglrx' driver. but the ati driver..  or else X would crash a few moments after i logged in.
[02:22] <adilson> how do i add icons with idesk, is there a simple tutorial or something?
[02:22] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  this was on my x200m based laptop.
[02:22] <dafydd> Dr_willis, weird, yeah I'm on an hp pavillion dv5000
[02:23] <favro> /etc/modules has to have fglrx as a module to load
[02:23] <knopf_> unop: everything's working fine now. I just put in the donation. (btw. that donation interface really sucks, but that's paypal's problem)
[02:23] <knopf_> unop: thanks a lot again
[02:24] <knopf_> who the heck is: christine.bean@standardbank.com and Canonical Limited ??
[02:24] <WDC> Hey hey! I want to install Madriva next to Ubuntu, are there any considerations with GRUB I need to work out? Or should it just, work?
[02:24] <Kohlrak-Serve1> anyone know how to access "restricted drivers" from a terminal window?
[02:24] <tuchki> hi, i've compiled pidgin 2.5.0 but i can start it. i made ./configure make and make install. did i do something eorng?
[02:24] <tuchki> hi, i've compiled pidgin 2.5.0 but i can start it. i made ./configure make and make install. did i do something wrong?
[02:24] <knopf_> !canonical limited
[02:24] <WDC> tuchki: Let's not spam
[02:24] <knopf_> !christine.bean@standardbank.com
[02:24] <tuchki> sorry, it was no my intention
[02:25] <WDC> tuchki: How are you running it? Sorry
[02:25] <Pici> !canoncial | knopf_
[02:25] <Pici> !canonical | knopf_
[02:25] <tuchki> wdc, with alt F2 pidgin
[02:25] <hitman1985> mdkaneda55, isnt there also some kinda application for that function, where i could make like a custom background and stuff ( just curious)
[02:25] <newman0708> where can get the fetion plugin for pidgin?
[02:25] <knopf_> Pici: ah thanks.
[02:25] <WDC> tuchki: Well don't do that. Go Applications Internet Pidgin
[02:25] <Pici> knopf_: sure
[02:25] <newman0708> where can i get the fetion plugin for pidgin?
[02:26] <hitman1985> mdkaneda55, like a cms for just viewing that folder
[02:26] <dafydd> does anyone know if it's possible to mount a flashdrive from the terminal?
[02:26] <knopf_> Pici: you should also store 'christine.bean@standardbank.com'
[02:26] <newman0708> i can't access the linuxsir,
[02:26] <Pici> knopf_: Why? Who is that?
[02:26] <knopf_> !standardbank | knopf_
[02:26] <WDC> dafydd: Of course it's possible. Find out the location and go mount /the/location
[02:26] <knopf_> Pici: it's the email they give you when you donate
[02:26] <qr_> dafydd: You need to 'sudo mount /dev/device /folder/to/mount/in'
[02:27] <WDC> dafydd: or what qr_ said.
[02:27] <newman0708> where can i get the fetion plugin for pidgin?
[02:27] <Pici> knopf_: Its probably just their accountant
[02:27] <knopf_> Pici:  it's the recipient
[02:27] <knopf_> Pici: yes can be
[02:27] <Kohlrak-Serve1> anyone know how to access the hardware drivers from a terminal window?
[02:28] <amit> hi there is no theme option  in preferences
[02:28] <Dr_willis> Kohlrak-Serve1,  the binary is called jocky* or somthing weird like that.
[02:28] <qr_> Kohlrak-Serve1: you can poke at them with modprobe if you're so inclined.
[02:28] <dafydd> qr_, I have no clue where in /dev the drive is that I just plugged in unfortunately
[02:28] <Dr_willis> Kohlrak-Serve1,  if you are refering to the restricted-special drivers for nvidia/ati and other things
[02:29] <adilson> how do i add icons to idesk?
[02:29] <hitman1985> mdkaneda55, it works so far, but i can go to higher level (it just wont show anything) is that the way it should be ?
[02:29] <Kohlrak-Serve1> Dr_willis, not quite the command, but that is what i'm looking for (trying to get the fglrx driver to be used now that i have it in synaptic)
[02:29] <qr_> dafydd: do 'dmesg | tail', it should tell you which device was just plugged in.
[02:29] <tuchki> wdc, do you think i need to make the process again?
[02:29] <Dr_willis> adilson,  you may want to read the idesk docs. I think theres some .config file you need to make.
[02:29] <mdkaneda55> hitman1985: sounds ok, as for a background u'd have to make an html file or something, not sure if it would work on an ftp tho,, kinda dont think so...
[02:30] <lovinglinux> hi. I'm having problem with a faulty installation of lirc. The installation process gives an error during configuration and this is stopping other installations (Myth Control Center) that depends on it
[02:30] <newman0708> where can i get the fetion plugin for pidgin?
[02:30] <Dr_willis> Kohlrak-Serve1,  installing from synaptic alwyas worked the same as if i used that tool..  for me at least.
[02:30] <amit>  hi there is no theme option in preferences, anyone can help with that
[02:30] <hitman1985> mdkaneda55, ftp://u46726012-public@team-served.com/public/ :) see if thats correct :_
[02:30] <_paneb> does anyone know how i can tell easy_install to install to /usr/local/lib/python2.5/site-packages instead of /usr/lib/python2.5/site-packages?
[02:30] <adilson> Dr_willis: im reading the wiki apparently it doesnt generate the icons automatcally which is wha i need, I dont want to be making icons one by one :/
[02:30] <Kohlrak-Serve1> Dr_willis: then perhaps it doesn't know that my card works with the driver (vostro 1000)
[02:31] <Dr_willis> adilson,  it reads them from a config file..  frin what i read at http://linuxreviews.org/man/ideskrc/
[02:31] <Dr_willis> Kohlrak-Serve1,  i gave up on ati. :) no idea on that bit.
[02:31] <soapman> does one 'have to install the jdk' by using Synaptic or apt-get?
[02:32] <Dr_willis> soapman,  either way should work
[02:32] <Kohlrak-Serve1> Dr_willis: well, considering that i have a laptop, giving up isn't so easy for me.
[02:32] <keidori> thanks for your help dr-willis
[02:32] <keidori> great read
[02:32] <soapman> i like downloading the jdk from Sun & using the 'bin' installer, but there seems to be a problem with Eclipse
[02:33] <Dr_willis> Kohlrak-Serve1, the last laptop i got. i made SURE it had nvidia. :)   that was #1 on my features list when i went to the store. Got a nice HP. with good linux support.
[02:33] <adilson> Dr_willis: yah i read that in their wiki apparently icons ae not auto generated even knowing they have a default icons files
[02:33] <cached> What's the standard chmod for files to be put on the web (say an image) ?
[02:33] <amit> any one can help me with my theme thing theres no theme option in preferences
[02:34] <Dr_willis> adilson,  if you are refering to the .desktop files   - i dont know of any programs that do that. other then the kde/gnome file managers/desktops (perhaps xfce)
[02:34] <soapman> what I would like to do is have > 1 jdk version installed at '/opt/' & then have Eclipse installed at '/opt' also
[02:34] <Kohlrak-Serve1> Dr_willis, well, i moved to ubuntu after i got the laptop. Next time that's what i'll do.
[02:34] <Pici> amit: Preferences>Appearence
[02:34] <qr_> cached: 444 probably isn't a bad bet, I don't know if it's "standard" though.
[02:34] <Dr_willis> Kohlrak-Serve1,  you could try changing 'fglrx' to 'ati' or even 'vesa' in the xorg.conf and see if it works.
[02:34] <adilson> Dr_willis: oh ok
[02:35]  * maurocs going to sleep
[02:35] <Dr_willis> adilson,  thats one of the big diffeacnes between those tools and kde/gnome. :) they just do icons on the desktop.. thats it.  nothing fancy. well nothing real fancy
[02:35] <amit> how do i get new themes
[02:35] <Dr_willis> adilson,  i use  rox file manager, and its pinboard feture for my minimal desktop icons
[02:35] <amit> thanks
[02:35] <soapman> i've set my JAVA_HOME & CLASSPATH, and tried starting eclipse, & the 'splash screen' comes up , but then goes away & another 'blank' window comes up (then nothing)
[02:35] <Dr_willis> adilson,  and no it dose not handle .desktop files either. that ive noticed.
[02:36] <Kohlrak-Serve1> Dr_willis, not sure that entry is even in xorg.conf, hense why i'm trying to find it
[02:36] <pedro> hey
[02:36] <pedro> im trying to find a image editor very simple for linux, just to edit some minor things
[02:36] <kcman1> i have no audio on my vlc player
[02:36] <adilson> Dr_willis: ahhh this is becoming more work than i wanted "all i needed to do is set up a linux desktop environment the parents could use without any hassle" is that too much to ask...
[02:36] <Dr_willis> Kohlrak-Serve1,  well the new X sever stuff tries to auto configure a lot of things. You may want to  remake a more normal xorg.conf
[02:37] <pedro> anyone knows something i could use?
[02:37] <Dr_willis> adilson,  and gnome dont count? or kde? or the xfce desktop?
[02:37] <qr_> pedro: just use gimp, there's not really a lot of variety for image editors in linux.
[02:37] <l3d>  is there a way to stop nautilus from opening up everytime i put a disk in?
[02:37] <Dr_willis> adilson,  i use icewm+rox  file manager for the desktop/icons mainly
[02:37] <pedro> but doesn't gimp have a lot of options and stuff like photoshop?
[02:38] <Kohlrak-Serve1> Dr_willis, that's the thing i don't like about xserver now... Ever since the hardy upgrade i've had lots of problems with my graphics
[02:38] <Dr_willis> l3d,  yes. but i forget where the setting is  hidden at.
[02:38] <orly_owl> how do you stop totem opening when you insert a dvd?
[02:38] <qr_> pedro: yes, it does... that in no way stops you from doing simple things.
[02:38] <adilson> Dr_willis: ive goot xubuntu installed but on their account ive used icewm cause of the whole windows similarities but i need desktop icons until they get used to shortcuts etc
[02:38] <Dr_willis> Kohlrak-Serve1,  lots of people have had issues.. i started using my old xorg.conf :)
[02:38] <kcman1> not only do i have no audio but i experience a huge delay in use of the program if i hit any part of it while something is playing any fixes?
[02:38] <pedro> i'll try it out quickly and see if i can use it
[02:39] <Dr_willis> adilson,  install rox-filer and run 'rox -p=default' to see its 'desktop' wich is actually a pinboard. its fairly handy.
[02:39] <Kohlrak-Serve1> Dr_willis, i just found something fancy and new, and if i'm lucky it did it right and the problem is gone, but this has just been a pain in my butt. All i did was "xfix" and then this whole problem started... a snowball effect kinda problem. And it hasn't been fun dealing with
[02:39] <pedro> i cant even find where im gonna draw
[02:39] <Dr_willis> adilson,  or set up xfce to look like windows i guess. :)
[02:40] <adilson> Dr_willis: the file manager im usig is thunar and gnome-commander i dont want any extra suff unless their isnt a way... I'll mess with his for a while and see what happens "xfce hangs on this pc, its ok for me but for them icewm is faster"
[02:40] <Dr_willis> Kohlrak-Serve1,  ive never seen this 'xfix' command. :) you are now the 2nd peson ive seen mention it.
[02:40] <Kohlrak-Serve1> Dr_willis, second option on the boot menu.
[02:40] <Kohlrak-Serve1> the grub boot menu that is
[02:41] <Dr_willis> Kohlrak-Serve1,  not on  mine.  - may be a new feature in the 8.04.1 i guess?
[02:41] <corollax> Is it normal to for the system monitor to display two copies of "Xorg"?
[02:41] <Kohlrak-Serve1> that'll take you to a recovery thing, and xfix is one of the commands
[02:41] <Kohlrak-Serve1> dr_willis, it is. aren't you on hardy?
[02:41] <Dr_willis> Kohlrak-Serve1,  started on beta.. ane been upgrading  for the last... err.. however long its been
[02:42] <dafydd> qr_, dmesg | tail is saying that it found a new usb-storage device at 6
[02:42] <Dr_willis> Kohlrak-Serve1,  also i customized my grub menu to boot some other things. :) it may of decided to leave it alone.
[02:42] <red> is it kosher to have apostrophe's in email addresses?
[02:42] <Dr_willis> red Hmm.. ive never seen one in them
[02:43] <yaris123456789> hey guys what command do i run. (maybe grep? ) to find the user and group in httpd.conf ?
[02:43] <qr_> dafydd: it doesn't tell you something like sda/sdb?  If not I don't know what to tell you, try mounting different sda/sdb/sdc devices randomly? haha.
[02:43] <Kohlrak-Serve1> Dr_willis, it's actually the recovery mode (sepearate from grub, but to see the mode you have to go to the second option in grub)... oh well. .. you're lucky, it's not worth going into. All it does is resets the xserver
[02:43] <Dr_willis> Kohlrak-Serve1,  i have a recovery mode that just goes to the single user shell. :) but i think i even hae that disabvled.. since i can always edit my grub and add 'single' to the end.
[02:44] <csyntax_> Can i update the firmware on linux or do i need a mac or windows for this?
[02:44] <Kohlrak-Serve1> dr_willis, why'd you disable it?
[02:44] <yaris123456789> grep "group" httpd.conf doesn't return anything
[02:44] <csyntax_> ?
[02:45] <arooni-mobile> how do i get python installed on ubuntu?
[02:45] <Dr_willis> Kohlrak-Serve1,  i had other  grub entries for other things.. and i dident need extra 'recovery' entries for every kernel.
[02:45] <Dr_willis> arooni-mobile,  it should be allready installed
[02:45] <dafydd> "new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 7" "[ 1160.651788] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through"
[02:45] <dafydd> is what I see from dmesg | tail
[02:45] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  do dmesg | tail again . and it may state somthing else.
[02:45] <csyntax_> anyone use iphone?
[02:46] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  so the device is /dev/sda -  filesystems will start at /dev/sda1 most likely
[02:46] <qr_> dafydd: it says sda at the end there, try mounting /dev/sda or /dev/sda1
[02:47] <qr_> dafydd: sd means scsi device, sda is the first scsi device and sda1 is the first partition on the first scsi device, so one of those should probably work
[02:47] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  'sudo fdisk -l' should also now show the devices and filesystems on them
[02:48] <Kohlrak-Serve1> note to self, nextime just re-install the darn graphics driver, saves all that trouble
[02:48] <Kohlrak-Serve1> now i gotta reset all my icons and even some menues disappeared
[02:49] <Kohlrak-Serve1> gonna come in on my laptop
[02:49] <dafydd> Dr_willis, doing that command says that /dev/hda1 is an extended filesystem
[02:49] <Dr_willis> Kohlrak-Serve1,  menus?  heh - those shouldent affect menus
[02:49] <sergio> is there any linux program or application I can program to send and receive mails with an attached text file????
[02:49] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  yes.. it proberly is. :) extended partition,
[02:49] <Dr_willis> odd that its not a primary
[02:49] <kcman1> i am having some vlc troubles anyone know audio fixes
[02:49] <Dr_willis> dafydd,  but hda1 is NOT the same as 'sda1'
[02:50] <dafydd> oh wait, duhh, it's at /dev/sda1
[02:50] <Dr_willis> hda - used to be for the ide drives.. but often ide drives also show up as 'sd#' now a days
[02:50] <RequinB4> apparently i need virtualbox-ose-modules-generic but all it does is depend on something that won't install that won't install directly because it depends on something else that doesn't existg
[02:50] <dafydd> YESS SUCESS thanks qr and Dr_willis
[02:50] <qr_> dafydd: cheers!
[02:51] <dafydd> well thanks for all the help everybody, I'm going to reinstall now with the currect version of ubuntu, the 64 bit
[02:51] <Dr_willis> RequinB4,  id heard those were beign worked on.. not sure what/why theres a delay
[02:51] <destry> I installed the xubuntu-desktop and I rebooted and still have the gnome desktop, but when I go to login it says xubuntu.. Why is this? :-\
[02:51] <Dr_willis> bye all . work time
[02:52] <newpers> omg... mercurial is now on 1.0.2 and hardy is still using 0.9.5
[02:52] <qr_> destry: at the login screen there's a button in the lower left corner to change session.  Change to xubuntu and it will show xfce when you log in.
[02:52] <perillux> would anyone please be able to assist me in getting suspend OR hibernate to work in Hardy on my laptop?
[02:52] <newpers> 1.0 was release 3/2008
[02:52] <onthefence928> every now and then the router at my house likes to kick my computer off the internet sometimes, and sometimes it just won't show up in my list of wireless networks. it usually happens after someone uses a lot of bandwidth, but then it's impossible to get the connection back without restarting my computer or restarting teh router or both. my roommate both use vista and they connect right away and i'm stuck staring at firefox error pages. 
[02:53] <jejones__> My computer is no longer connecting to the network. I've swapped cables and tried a Live CD, with no change. Other computers on the LAN can connect. The LED for the on-mobo ethernet (which I'm trying to use, which worked until this evening, and which is enabled in BIOS) LED lights up when connected, and system log shows it sees when I connect and disconnect the cable from the switch. Is there something else I can try before concluding
[02:53] <jejones__>  the on-mobo ethernet is hosed and buying an ethernet card for it?
[02:53] <destry> qr_ thank you very much didn't know that.
[02:55] <qr_> jejones__: have you checked your routing tables? ( 'route' in a terminal) there should be a 'default' entry with the ip address if your router.
[02:55] <jejones__> qr_: no, I haven't. I will give that a try. Thanks.
[02:55] <jvargas_> hi
[02:56] <jvargas_> what is the app that allows me to run a desktop application as root?
[02:56] <unop> jvargas_, gksu or gksudo
[02:56] <jvargas_> like the one used by synaptics to ask my pass
[02:56] <jvargas_> o
[02:56] <jvargas_> k
[02:56] <onthefence928> jvargas: be VERY careful
[02:56] <jvargas_> cool :)
[02:57] <jejones__> qr_: tried it; no entries whatsoever.
[02:57] <jvargas_> dont worry, ill used it to run my virtual machines
[02:57] <qr_> jejones__: connect all the wires and run 'sudo route add default gw your.router.ip.address' and then see if that helps.
[02:58] <qr_> jejones__: also make sure you have an ip address before you run route ( ie run sudo dhclient yournetworkdevice )
[02:58] <D0c5i5> i'm new to ubuntu, and i have a strange problem... on a fresh installation (dell d830 laptop) i get nothing when i click on  roaming network icon... but if i set manual it doesn't work after reboot unless i turn on roaming and turn it back off again
[02:59] <dfgas> how do i get desktop icons to default to right side
[02:59] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, what wireless card do you have?
[03:00] <Wannabe> i need help with my teamspeak, sound dosnt work inside of my teamspeak
[03:00] <meteoroid> hm, so selinux is set up, but when I ls -lZ, i see ? and numbers, not selinux context names.. am i missing something?
[03:00]  * ShujinT will be looking for help tracking down a system hard lockup issue when someone's available, please.
[03:01] <Mr_Fixit> can i shrink partitions with gparted like partition magic would do??
[03:01] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: checking
[03:01] <meteoroid> ShujinT: explain more, please..
[03:01] <godzirra> Hi folks.  I'm trying to get my realtek 8101 wireless card working in linux and I cant seem to get it detected.  lspci finds it, but it doesnt show up in iwconfig or ifconfig.
[03:01] <meteoroid> i'll do what i can..
[03:02] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, lshw -C network    pastebin it
[03:02] <meteoroid> Mr_Fixit: not sure, read the docs, perhaps?
[03:02] <mikeb55> Anyone know off hand if I can request the size of a file, before I was to download it?  would wget do this possible?
[03:02] <D0c5i5> iwl4965
[03:02] <Mr_Fixit> yea... thought a fast answer may exist here.... thanks anyways meteoroid
[03:02] <kitche> godzirra: so ifconfig -a shows nothing like wlan0 or ethX well eth0 will most likely be your ethernet if you have ethernet
[03:02] <ozzloy> my upgrade to 8.04 has been stuck for 2 hours now.  can someone help me troubleshoot?
[03:02] <jejones__> qr_: sudo dhclient eth0 seems to have done the trick... which leaves the question of why that is either not being run or is failing at startup time. Where does that normally happen?
[03:02] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, lshw -C network    pastebin it  please
[03:03] <ShujinT> meteroid - Thank you. I occationally have a hard-lockup problem under 7.10. I'm fairly certain it's not an IRQ Conflict / system dualboots Win2k no problem. I think the prob is with the sound system... but I don;t know where to start looking or if I should rip out all the ALSO / OSS stuff and reboot / redetect.
[03:03] <ajhtiredwolf> Hello I am trying to isntall tor, everything appears to be configured right from what ive seen on how to's I found via google, but tor still doesn't appear to be working
[03:03] <godzirra> kitche: eth0 shows but thats my wired.  Other than that, just the loopback interface.
[03:03] <lwizardl> does RS232 to USB adapters work properly under Ubuntu (ie RS232 Serial -> USB port)
[03:03] <qr_> jejones__: I don't know why it wouldn't be run automaitcally.  That command basically tells your computer to request an IP address, so it makes sense that you couldn't connect without it being run.
[03:03] <marko-_-> ajhtiredwolf, on firefox 3 it's still not working ok
[03:04] <kc8pxy> in my native distro , i always have the kernel headers if i have a kernel installed..  what is the headers package for the 8.04.1 server kernel headers?
[03:04] <meteoroid> ShujinT: you may also consider that the linux kernel sometimes has issues with bad memory that windows accepts, though i think the adoption of the NT kernel has reduced, though not eliminated, this dynamic..
[03:04] <meteoroid> as for sound, well, if you can remove something to see if it's the root of the problem, i suggest doing so..
[03:04] <jejones__> qr_: OK. I will pursue that question via Google now that I can. Thanks very much for your help.
[03:04] <meteoroid> or is it only when using sound?
[03:04] <Pici> ajhtiredwolf: You may want to check out #tor, if its already installed and you just need help configuring it or getting it to work.
[03:04] <nDuff> lwizardl, those have been supported in the meanline kernel for a very long time
[03:05] <nDuff> lwizardl, so I'd be shocked if they didn't.
[03:05] <ajhtiredwolf> marko-_-,  I dont think it is a problem with firefox 3, when starting vidalia, it says " tor is starting up" but hangs there
[03:05] <qr_> jejones__: did you plug in your ethernet after starting the computer?  I've never had any luck with dhclient being run automatically unless I had /etc/network/interfaces set up correctly and everything plugged in on boot.
[03:05] <murlidhar> how to change themes without using a software ?
[03:05] <marko-_-> ajhtiredwolf, then i don't know
[03:05] <qr_> murlidhar: you don't . nothing on your computer happens at all without using a software.
[03:05] <ajhtiredwolf> Pici, alrighty
[03:06] <ShujinT> meteoroid - Possible.. however I'm not leaning that way yet. I'll run MemCheck overnight tonight to be sure... but would it account for the system locking up hard - unable to be reset / woken up even with a 'SysReq' function?
[03:06] <lwizardl> nDuff: ok because i'm looking at a serial port based cash display pole, and my computer is legacy-free (only has 5 usb ports, and no rs232 serial ports)
[03:06] <koshar1> can you schedule scrollkeepers update ?
[03:06] <murlidhar> qr_: i meant with using a GUI application like gtkchtheme
[03:06] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/40306/
[03:06] <koshar1> !scrollkeeper
[03:06] <nDuff> lwizardl, "make menuconfig" in the kernel-sources; there's a whole section listing which of those devices it's compatible with.
[03:06] <SeaPhor> ty, looking
[03:06] <qr_> murlidhar: ahh, I see. it's unlikely that you'd be able tochange gnome themese without using a gnome gui app.
[03:07] <meteoroid> ShujinT: certainly, memory can be the blame for the worst of all computing problems, always..
[03:07] <meteoroid> everything goes through memory..
[03:07] <favro> murlidhar: use the .gtk-2.0 file in /home/you and then restart x
[03:07] <murlidhar> favro: thanks
[03:07] <favro> np
[03:07] <nDuff> lwizardl, I used one of those ~8 years ago when doing embedded systems work, but I don't remember who made it, so you're safest checking the list.
[03:08] <dougan> Hey I just installed ubuntu and xchat and seem to be having problems accepting DCC file transfers.  Any ideas?
[03:08] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, and your ap, is it encrypted with wep. wpa? what?
[03:08] <mikeb55> Anyone know how I would do a head request with wget, and not have it download the file?
[03:08] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: wpa
[03:08] <nDuff> mikeb55, personally, I find that easier with curl than wget; you can use -X to tell it the request type
[03:08] <ShujinT> meteoroid - (*Chuckle*) Yes, well.. point there. That'll be damned annoying then.... Alright. I'll go looking there. To be safe, though, if there's a conflict in the sound system, though.. might that cause the same thing, would you think? (Sorry.. been a LONG time since I dealt with a HARD-lock like this.)
[03:08] <qr_> mikeb55: read man wget... if it's possible then man wget will tell you.
[03:08] <mikeb55> qr_: couldn't find it..
[03:08] <meteoroid> irq conflicts can also cause all sorts of problems..
[03:08] <mikeb55> yah I will use curl
[03:08] <qr_> mikeb55: then it's probably not possible.
[03:08] <godzirra> kitche: any ideas?
[03:08] <meteoroid> i haven't resolved one on a gnu/linux system for some time
[03:09] <nDuff> mikeb55, also, curl has a --head
[03:09] <meteoroid> can you remove the sound card, or is it onboard? what do you think it may be conflicting with?
[03:09] <meteoroid> have you looked in /proc and with various tools at irq usage at runtime?
[03:09] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: brb, bio
[03:09] <meteoroid> under what circumstances does it hang?
[03:09] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, np
[03:10] <Quiescent> i followed some guide to get Flash 10 Release Candidate working in Ubuntu
[03:10] <ShujinT> meteoroid - It's Onboard (Gigabyte GA-K8U-939) Reports as ALi M5455 w/ ALC850... Not sure.. but I get the funny feeling it's bashing heads with... /something/.. when I run DJ software too... but that's also hit-or-miss
[03:10] <Quiescent> i had to install some extra repository
[03:11] <jordo2323> I am attempting to hook a Linksys Wireless B USB network adapter to a freshly installed copy of Ubuntu Hardy. It's not connecting....do I have to install a certain driver?
[03:11] <ShujinT> meteoroid - lemme run proc and see now
[03:11] <meteoroid> hm..
[03:11] <_hase> Is there an alternative to alsa, I can't seem to make sound work
[03:11] <zelrikriando> Quiescent, did you follow that link : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5587712&postcount=472
[03:11] <Quiescent> now i can't remove the repository, my firefox is f'd
[03:11] <meteoroid> can you elaborate on this funny feeling? i can certainly relate, but sometimes one leads oneself down a tangential path ;)
[03:11] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: i'm back
[03:11] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, does it ever connect to the ap?
[03:12] <Quiescent> zelrikriando: no, i followed another one that completely f'ed up all sorts of things
[03:12] <Quiescent> zelrikriando: my firefox is so screwed
[03:13] <chaosrl> does anyone know the difference between full-input and half-input mode in scim?
[03:13] <ShujinT> meteoroid - True.. as I'm doing the DJ thing in SecondLife, I'll occationally get scratchy sounds, little glitches in the sound... sometimes it'll lock, sometimes not... I followed the suggestions regarding IDJC's use and popped in the realtime kernel... but it happened in a passive overnight(burnin)  test too
[03:13] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: yes... but only if i go in that sequence... i have to switch it back and forth from manual to roaming then i can set it manually
[03:13] <Quiescent> my bookmarks are gone, can't view history, when i load a page and then click a link it doesn't update the address bar
[03:13] <Quiescent> clicking on external links doesn't work
[03:13] <D0c5i5> if i set it manually and reboot, it does not work after a reboot until i set roaming then re-set manual
[03:14] <D0c5i5> it transmits/receives packets, according to ifconfig, but it cannot get an IP address via dhcp, and cannot ping/browse/etc if i set the IP manually
[03:14] <ShujinT> meteoroid - Huh! I see both the sound and ethernet on the same IRQ - 18...Odd
[03:14] <D0c5i5> but if i follow that sequence, then i am able to dhcp/ping/browse/etc
[03:15] <dafydd> hey out there to all 64-bit users, I'm an ubuntu noob and am about to reinstall ubuntu using the 64-bit version (I have a laptop with an amd turion processor). Is it significantly harder to use a 64-bit version of ubuntu?
[03:15] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, ok, can you pastebiin your /etc/network/interfaces file?
[03:15] <kitche> dafydd: no just that some software is not native to x86_64
[03:16] <bbyever> when is ubuntu open week?
[03:17] <dafydd> kitch: thanks. I should definitely see a boost in speed from my old install of x86 right?
[03:17] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/40309/
[03:17] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5,  thats   gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces  then ctrl+a    then open http://paste.ubuntu.com   shift+insert   submit
[03:18] <kitche> dafydd: not really for desktop use really you just might see like a 1% increase
[03:18] <godzirra> Hi folks.  I'm trying to get my realtek 8101 wireless card working in linux and I cant seem to get it detected.  lspci finds it, but it doesnt show up in iwconfig or ifconfig -a.
[03:19] <luckyone> hello all, quick question about samba shares
[03:19] <godzirra> After installing the ATI driver now, after I login I get a white screen with my mouse cursor too. :/
[03:19] <dafydd> kitche: ahh ok. Any other reasons for using the x86_64 architecture?
[03:19] <kitche> dafydd: well if you have 4gigs of ram
[03:19] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, ok, here is the problem,,, your interfaces file sees the name wlan0 and your hardware is called wmaster0...
[03:19] <wnstn> dafydd: the biggest pain is you may have to compile from source a lot. I know I do.
[03:19] <luckyone> I have set up a samba share on my ubuntu server. My windows pc can connect to it just fine. However, my ubuntu desktop can't seem to connect/mount it
[03:20] <dafydd> kitche: I guess I better stick with the x86, I only have about 2 gigs of ram
[03:21] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5,  and this is beyond me at this point i have suggestion on what i would do but it may make matters worse,,,
[03:21] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: hmm... i saw wmaster0 in my network tools to... but it reports (unknown interface)
[03:21] <phantomcircuit> why is it that one application can take down my entire desktop?
[03:22] <perillux> phantomcircuit: what do you mean?
[03:22] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, look at System>Administration> Hardware... in the gui...
[03:22] <phantomcircuit> i mean one process just caused me to have to do a control_alt_backspace
[03:22] <Asa_A> Can anyone here help me with an rsync problem? I sync my home to another computer every night (rsync -av --delete /home/me/ other-computer:/home/me) I have some files that aren't right though. One of them is 14k on my computer and 4G on the other.
[03:23] <SeaPhor> make sure if your wireless drivers are there i restricted that they are enabled and in use
[03:23] <Asa_A> rsync should keep those files exactly the same but it isn't for some reason
[03:23] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5,  make sure if your wireless drivers are there i restricted that they are enabled and in use
[03:23] <D0c5i5> I have Hardware Drivers and Hardware Testing
[03:23] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, drivers
[03:23] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: nope, just my nvidia is listed
[03:23] <phantomcircuit> perillux, VirtualBox brought my entire desktop to a grinding halt because a process in the virtual machine went crazy
[03:23] <SeaPhor> ok D0c5i5
[03:23] <ShujinT> meteoroid - Thanks for the idea... I'll see what the mem test says and hope for the best. Thank you very kindly.
[03:23] <phantomcircuit> why is it able to do that?
[03:24] <SeaPhor> was just a thought,, i would do the following... D0c5i5
[03:24] <perillux> phantomcircuit: no idea.  did you try a kill -9 ?
[03:24] <phantomcircuit> i couldnt get to a terminal :|
[03:24] <phantomcircuit> the entire screen was completely unresponsive
[03:25] <perillux> phantomcircuit: ya that happens to me sometimes when playing cs on WINE.
[03:25] <phantomcircuit> :|
[03:25] <phantomcircuit> maybe it's freezing up a kernel module
[03:25] <phantomcircuit> bleh
[03:26] <phantomcircuit> oh i think i know what it was
[03:26] <phantomcircuit> it ran out of memory in the virtual machine
[03:26] <phantomcircuit> started to use page file
[03:26] <phantomcircuit> and the caused a kernel module to go nutz adding to the disk
[03:26] <phantomcircuit> lame sauce
[03:26] <Lyk4n8rwp0S> hi a friend has insanely huge boot times (3'21" in a 3GHz/1 Giga Ram machine) and I can't really see what's wrong with it. It appears that after sh loads a modprobe loads which runs for almost 3 minutes!! (the bootchart graph is available here >> http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hardy200808251ph9.png ) Any ideas people what is wrong with it?
[03:26] <Asa_A> Does anyone here occasionally get the problem where the panels in gnome are unresponsive so you can't shutdown/reboot or start a new program (on hardy)? Its happened to me several times but not enough for me to find any patern or be able to reproduce it.
[03:27] <perillux> phantomcircuit: how'd you come to realize that?
[03:27] <mikeb55> md5sum doesn't take into consideration the file name, just contents, correct?
[03:27] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5,  sudo cp /etc/network/interfaces /etc/network/interfaces.bak   then gksudo gedit /etc/network/interfaces and change wlan0 to wmaster0  save and exit and restart network with sudo /etc/networking restart
[03:31] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: no go
[03:31] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/40313/
[03:32] <fabien_> salu
[03:33] <D0c5i5> i have both a wlan0 and a wmaster0 in System>Administration>Network Tools
[03:34] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, why are you logged in as root?
[03:34] <D0c5i5> but if I click on the configure button with wlan0 highlighted, i get "The interface does not exist"
[03:34] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: i'm not, just have a su console
[03:35] <tragik> under gnome how can I get a launcher to launch an app with root privs via sudo or something else?
[03:35] <tj83> D0c5i5, pastebin outputs of ifconfig and iwconfig
[03:35] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, verry odd
[03:35] <Odd-rationale> tragik: use gksudo
[03:36] <Paro[Away]> tragik: set the launcher command to 'gksudo [command]'
[03:36] <tragik> ahh perfect, ill try that, thanks guys
[03:37] <tragik> worked perfect, thanks odd-rationale and Paro
[03:37] <D0c5i5> tj83: http://paste.ubuntu.com/40314/
[03:37] <geek_> ok.. is there any logical reason that CPU usage should go down across the board after a system has been running for a day or two?
[03:37] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, try the following,,, iwconfig       iwlist scanning
[03:38] <Paro[Away]> geek_: that would depend on the types of applications you have running
[03:39] <tj83> D0c5i5, SeaPhor looks like its connected ?
[03:39] <tj83> D0c5i5, SeaPhor odd IP tho
[03:39] <geek_> Paro[Away]: well lets see, apt went from 70% processor usage for a single update, to negligible usage for the whole system...
[03:39] <xomp> help! I updated my hardy and now I get a kernel panic  when rebooting. I have to press ESC and choose a different kernel from the list for it to boot right :(
[03:39] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: http://paste.ubuntu.com/40316/
[03:39] <SeaPhor> tj83, D0c5i5 , yes, it does, maybe a dns prob?
[03:40] <kraypius> does ubuntu 8.04 support whole drive encryption during the install process?
[03:40] <kraypius> i dont see the option
[03:40] <geek_> kraypius: i belive the alternate install disks support encrypted LVM
[03:40] <kraypius> geek, whats an alternate install disk?
[03:41] <D0c5i5> which IP is odd?
[03:41] <SeaPhor> tj83, why odd?
[03:41] <LancerDragoon> Hi, all.
[03:41] <geek_> kraypius: the command line install disk, you can download it by clicking on a checkbox...
[03:41] <tj83> D0c5i5, have you tried to connect to any other wireless network? anyother that you could try your connection on?
[03:41] <LancerDragoon> I have a problem with my 8.04 LiveCD; it keeps booting into BusyBox. Does anyone have any ideas?
[03:41] <SeaPhor> tj83, D0c5i5 , 172.16.x.x are common with some dhcp routers
[03:42] <D0c5i5> yea, my network here is 172.16.55.x for VPN reasons
[03:42] <tj83> SeaPhor, ok, just havent experienced that before.
[03:42] <D0c5i5> PtP VPM router
[03:42] <Paro[Away]> geek_: remember that CPU time is controlled by the scheduler; if you had nothing else running while you used apt the first time, apt would've gotten all the cpu time it wanted. if later on other applications were running, apt wouldn't have gotten such a large share of cpu time between top polls
[03:42] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, which is your ap tho,,,    ESSID:"Buckinutz"   or  ESSID:"NG-J1"   ?
[03:43] <D0c5i5> tj83: i can connect to any wireless network if i follow that pattern...
[03:43] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: neither...
[03:43] <geek_> Paro[Away]: wierd thing is, the CPU was at 100% at that time. now its at a more reasonable 10% or so...
[03:43] <geek_> so unless the sheduler 'learns' it dosen't make sense
[03:43] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5,  ESSID:"airbox2"  ? ythats the 1?
[03:43] <ivx> hey i want to have a shared folder me and my wife can access (just for one computer) that will have pics and music. is there a better way to do it then make a /shared folder then link to it on each of our desktops?
[03:43] <LancerDragoon> No one has any ideas on why my Ubuntu LiveCD keeps booting into BusyBox (initramfs)? This happens even after I tried installing Ubuntu using Wubi.
[03:44] <xomp> help! I updated my hardy and now I get a kernel panic  when rebooting. I have to press ESC and choose a different kernel from the list for it to boot right :( can nobody help?
[03:44] <Paro[Away]> geek_: when was it at 100%? what process was using it?
[03:44] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: yes
[03:44] <geek_> Paro[Away]: 70% apt at one point
[03:44] <kraypius> geek, is there anyway to encypt the system volume after i have already installed?
[03:44] <Paro[Away]> xomp: details on the kernel panic (when it happens, what if says if you can get that info, etc. etc.)
[03:44] <geek_> in some cases though, processor usage seemed higher than the sum of process usage
[03:45] <phantomcircuit> perillux, because its the only thing that made sense in the slightest
[03:45] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, this is gonna sound really stupid,,, but is there a button on your laptop to turn on/off the wireless>?
[03:45] <Paro[Away]> geek_: what are you using to monitor cpu usage?
[03:45] <xomp> Paro[Away], it says something like "Init: 23847293487epr2387" then my NumLock, Caps Lock & Scroll Lock light flash
[03:45] <jtacuyan> digg
[03:45] <geek_> kraypius: hmm.. not as far as i know
[03:45] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: i re-ran it a few times and airbox2 finally showed up... here's a larger list... http://paste.ubuntu.com/40319/
[03:45] <geek_> Paro[Away]: top
[03:45] <jgrabham> xomp - you can always edit grub to make it boot xyz kernel by default
[03:46] <Paro[Away]> geek_: what other processes were running when apt was using so much cpu time?
[03:46] <xomp> jgrabham, I'm not a pro with linux hehe, fairly new :P
[03:46] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: hmm... no button, but there might be a FN+Key combo, lemme look at the keyboard
[03:46] <rabiddachshund> This is weird. I can ssh but not scp - password denied. Fresh install.
[03:46] <geek_> Paro[Away]: erm, nothing other than the standard stuff. at the time lxde, nm-applet and not much else
[03:46] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: no, there isn't one that i can see
[03:46] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, my bro-in-law's was messing with me same way,,, til i turned it on, lol
[03:47] <geek_> Paro[Away]: what gets me is that it seems to be running better after i left it on overnight in frustration...
[03:47] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, its off by default in ubuntu btw
[03:47] <jordo2323> How do you connect to a wireless network using the command line with a wep key?
[03:47] <jgrabham> xomp - run        sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst     in a terminal
[03:47] <D0c5i5> i don't suppose by any freak chance a s/w update would help...
[03:48] <tj83> D0c5i5, if you dhclient wlan0 does it give you a new IP? renew the same one? from what address did the offer come from? can you ping that address?
[03:48] <Paro[Away]> geek_: that's the key; if apt is one of the only running processes and it's nicety is higher than the other active procs, it will get massive amounts of CPU% because the scheduler awards it that
[03:48] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, absolutely, always
[03:49] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, i always recommend that if wireless dont work on install, hard-line it to get all updates
[03:49] <geek_> Paro[Away]: but i got the same amount of stuff, the same settings, and its using less...
[03:49] <geek_> literally, other than running for a day, its an IDENTICAL system
[03:49] <Paro[Away]> geek_: for example, right now my FaHCore.exe is consuming 99.8% of my gateway's cpu time. It's nicety, however is 19, so if anything else runs, the scheduler will prfer the new task over fahcore
[03:49] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: what's the correct way to enable it? when i attempt to use the systray icon i don't get any listing of ssids, nor can i add one... but a manual configuration populates the list with all the ssids it can see
[03:50] <Paro[Away]> geek_: if the settings are identical (which that can sometimes be hard to determine) the discrepancy can be chalked up to the type of operation apt is completing. Certain packages (especially large ones) require heavier computational demands than others
[03:50] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor: okay, that's what I'll do now then.
[03:50] <SeaPhor> D0c5i5, is the ap broadcasting?
[03:50] <D0c5i5> SeaPhor:yes
[03:50] <geek_> Paro[Away]: ssh server takes more processor power than a dist-upgrade? ;p
[03:50] <tj83> D0c5i5, if you dhclient wlan0 does it give you a new IP? renew the same one? from what address did the offer come from? can you ping that address?
[03:51] <SeaPhor> get the updates, then come back after a reboot, but if not here check #SeaPhor
[03:51] <SeaPhor> get the updates, then come back after a reboot, but if not here check #SeaPhor D0c5i5
[03:51] <Paro[Away]> geek_: if you were writing an application that was going to take a long time and consume a lot of resources, would you nice it so that it consumes all the machine's time, or would you make it a polite app that uses cpu time only when other, more important (user) apps are running?
[03:51] <Paro[Away]> err, 'that uses cpu time only when other more impt apps offer it up'
[03:51] <Paro[Away]> I can think!! *durrr*
[03:52] <geek_> Paro[Away]: erm.. like i said. same system, uses less CPU time across the board... after a day
[03:52] <geek_> apt was an example. xorg is using 10% as opposed to 20% ...
[03:52] <D0c5i5> tj83: gives me the same ip (renew), 172.16.55.20, yes i can ping it... everything works great if I do that toggle back and forth from manual to roaming and back to manual (except i can access the configuration in the gui)
[03:52] <geek_> when i left the system on, it was using 50% processor doing nothing.. its using ~20ish now...
[03:52] <jgrabham> xomp - you there?
[03:52] <D0c5i5> how do i update ubuntu? (i'm fishing around for it)
[03:53] <D0c5i5> Synaptic?
[03:53] <tj83> D0c5i5, sudo apt-get update %% apt-get upgrade
[03:53] <tj83> D0c5i5, && not %%
[03:53] <tj83> D0c5i5, sudo apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[03:53] <jkatana> I'm running ubuntu 8.04, for some reason, whenever I right click any application it gives me the (minimize,maximize,move,resize) option anywhere I click, and if I try to click somewhere else, ie. desktop, main menu, right click doesn't do anything
[03:53] <Paro[Away]> geek_: it's hard to say without looking at your process environment. you could also chalk it up to the processes setting themselves up and asserting themselves on first run...
[03:53] <Prikolchik> D0c5i5, or look in System -> Update manager
[03:54] <geek_> Paro[Away]: hmm, *that* makes sense
[03:54] <Paro[Away]> geek_: but it really just sounds like there are more active processes later on and so each individual process's share of the total cpu time is reduced
[03:54] <geek_> Paro[Away]: naw, they really are behaving a lot better in general
[03:54] <Paro[Away]> geek_: i'm not sure what time frame you monitored these processes over, but they do tend to vary greatly with time
[03:54] <tj83> D0c5i5, /join #SeaPhor
[03:55] <geek_> Paro[Away]: 2 hours, got fed up.. came back and everything worked better the next morning ;p
[03:55] <Paro[Away]> geek_: if it's an issue that goes away with time (though a day seems a bit long...) then it's likely just the processes setting themselves up
[03:55] <Paro[Away]> lol
[03:55] <Paro[Away]> how peculiar o.o
[03:55] <geek_> VERY
[03:55] <Prikolchik> geek_, spent 1 day fixing wireless... next day it just worked right away...
[03:56] <geek_> Prikolchik: i hate that. i want to understand ;p
[03:56] <Paro[Away]> geek_: how many active processes did you have the first time compared with the second time? i wonder if it wasn't just some of the daemons settling down
[03:56] <geek_> Paro[Away]: can't remember unfortunately...
[03:56] <Supercom32> Does anyone know what the /data folder is used for?
[03:56] <geek_> but yeah, that makes sense to me
[03:56] <Kohlrak> You know, i could sit here and disable every special graphics feature of compiz here, and my screensaver will still flicker. Any idea why (as no matter what i enable or disable, the screen saver still flickers)?
[03:57] <roboton> hi, any idea why whatś need for my keyboard to do the default when press Shift+¨ combo
[03:57] <seekingtruth> hello sinners
[03:57] <Prikolchik> Supercom32, are u Dual Booting with windows?
[03:57] <Madpilot> roboton, hit the spacebar after shift+"
[03:57] <roboton> currently whenever I need to do it I takes two press on ¨ char before it appears
[03:57] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: which screensaver? all of them?
[03:57] <Supercom32> priprikolchik: Nope.
[03:57] <Kohlrak> Paro, yulp...
[03:58] <Madpilot> roboton, or switch from us-intl to another keyboard mapping
[03:58] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: which window manager are you using?
[03:58] <Kohlrak> paro: well, that is of the ones that even work (some dont' anymore)
[03:58] <Supercom32> Prikolchik: I'm just did a fresh install.
[03:58] <Paro[Away]> which ones don't work?
[03:58] <seekingtruth> good news eh? new ubuntu :-)
[03:58] <roboton> Madpilot:  I´ll try thanks
[03:58] <Paro[Away]> and when did they stop working?
[03:58] <Prikolchik> Supercom32, never mind then... It was disk D mounted automatically for me to /data
[03:58] <Kohlrak> Paro: come again? Gnome is the only window manager thing that i can think of you might be referring to
[03:58] <Kohlrak> paro: the ones that stopped working happened a long time ago when i upgraded to hardy
[03:59] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: yeah, that's what i meant :) you could've been using KDE, xfce, fluxbox, etc. instead of gnome
[03:59] <Supercom32> Prikolchik: Well root created my /data folder so I assume its important  but its emply.
[03:59] <Prikolchik> Supercom32, i've got no idea... I've used linux for like 2 days
[03:59] <Kohlrak> so any ideas Paro[Away]?
[03:59] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: graphics specs for your machine?
[04:00] <Joeseph> I am attempting to use my windows printer with ubuntu.  I already am using shared folders on the vista computer, so I do have the network configured at least mostly correct.  When I  try to add the printer to my network though, through the admin->Printing, I can see the computer, but not the printer.
[04:00] <Joeseph> I had the same problem with the folders, which I could not see, but I could type in the full path and access them.   However, the smb:// line for a printer is a bit complicated.
[04:00] <Kohlrak> Paro[Away]: can't remember the specific card. It's an ati thing (on a laptop bug plugged into a wall), but i don't think it's the card since enabling the rain and fire and other fancy features don't increase the flicker any.
[04:01] <XX01XX> Anyone have any experience with Wubi installs gone awry?
[04:02] <Joeseph> So, I guess I have two either or questions: How do I fill in a 'smb://' line for a windows printer OR how do I make the printer visible to my ubuntu machine.  The printer is connected to a vista computer, and other computers (my vista laptop) can print off it.
[04:02] <Flannel> !printer | Joeseph
[04:02] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: in all likelihood the flickering is caused by the ati 'radeon' set of drivers
[04:03] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: these are the open-source drivers released by ATI and regrettably they suck terribly.
[04:03] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: what i'd recommend is switching over to the proprietary (closed-source) fglrx drivers to solve the problem :S
[04:03] <Kohlrak> Paro[Away]: is fglrx amoung the radeon drivers?
[04:04] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: it's not the best solution (since open source is awesome) but if it solves your problem for now...
[04:04] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: go into Settings>Administration>Restricted drivers manager; is there a thing there for the ATI drivers?
[04:04] <Supercom32> Generally for ubuntu, what folder to people usually use to store swap files in?
[04:04] <Supercom32> root?
[04:04] <LSD|Ninja> Paro[Away]: fglrx should be offered there just like nVidia and everything else
[04:05] <danbhfive> Supercom32: what are swap files?
[04:05] <Omoikane> I just got a bamboo tablet today and was wondering if I could get it to work in Ubuntu.
[04:05] <Kohlrak> Paro[Away]: I think i'm already using the fglrx drivers (though the driver sucking makes sense). I think it's horribly coded, and the restricted drivers manager doesn't show up anymroe
[04:05] <Kohlrak> Never mind, there it is
[04:05] <Paro[Away]> LSD|Ninja: wanted to check if he had a supported radeon card (card<RV250 -> no fglrx)
[04:05] <daviduxe> Does anyone here use a thinkpad (t43?) or a computer that uses atheros for wifi?
[04:06] <jordo2323_> Has anyone had any luck installing a LINKSYS WIRELESS USB ADAPTER to Ubuntu?
[04:06] <LSD|Ninja> Paro[Away]: <R250 you don't need it
[04:06] <LSD|Ninja> daviduxe: I do
[04:06] <geek_> jordo2323_: just works for me
[04:06] <Paro[Away]> LSD|Ninja: exactly; so it would be a fruitless avenue to pursue if that were the case ^.^
[04:06] <geek_> daviduxe: yes to the former. the thinkwiki would be of some help i think
[04:06] <Kohlrak> Yea, Paro[Away], it's gotta be horrible coding on their part, because i already am on the proprietary drivers (who'd want open source drivers anyway unless you plan on making your own kernel?)
[04:06] <jordo2323_> geek_:  Not so much for me....I originally got it to see the wireless hub, but it won't connect
[04:07] <daviduxe> geek_: thanks!
[04:07] <geek_> jordo2323_: what kinda encryption?
[04:07] <nat1> yo dudes! sup!
[04:07] <jordo2323_> geek_: wep 64-bit
[04:07] <geek_> daviduxe: np. that site is VERY useful for any thinkpad/linux user
[04:07] <LSD|Ninja> daviduxe: what is the specific trpouble you're having?
[04:07] <`101gfx> How do I shut down an XP comp from a hardy comp over lan?
[04:07] <jordo2323_> geek_: Did you have to use ndiswrapper?
[04:07] <nat1> whats the plugin that when i bring a window to the front the windows move out of the way?
[04:07] <LSD|Ninja> `101gfx: remote desktop
[04:08] <geek_> jordo2323_:no
[04:08] <PokerFace> is it easy to install ubuntu?
[04:08] <geek_> i use wpa/wpa2 though
[04:08] <`101gfx> LSD|Ninja, can it be done through terminal?
[04:08] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: open source drivers aren't necessarily user-made; it'd just be nice if all the code that makes our graphics cards go was exposed to us :)
[04:08] <guesswho> PokerFace; yes
[04:08] <Cpudan80> PokerFace: as easy as windows
[04:08] <Flannel> Supercom32: /mnt/blah.swap  I guess.  Thats what the wiki uses (/mnt/512MB.swap)
[04:08] <Flannel> Supercom32: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[04:08] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: so you're already using fglrx; what's the output of fglrxinfo?
[04:08] <jordo2323_> geek_: how can I tell if the usb adapter is installed correctly?
[04:08] <LSD|Ninja> `101gfx: It can, if Windows offered a remote text terminal service that you would actually want enabled
[04:08] <PokerFace> oohh... il try to install it whenever my extra HD arrives....
[04:08] <PokerFace> :D
[04:09] <PokerFace> soo that i can explore new more things..:D
[04:09] <l3d> man ayttm wont update and I cant get it to work
[04:09] <PokerFace> coz im using windows ayt now.
[04:09] <guesswho> PokerFace; ubuntu is 10x better then windows
[04:09] <Paro[Away]> PokerFace: ubuntu install is stupid simple
[04:09] <geek_> jordo2323_: hmm.. lsusb i guess
[04:10] <geek_> jordo2323_: if it sees the AP and won't connect, messing with the type of wep key might help though
[04:10] <nat1> whats the plugin that when i bring a window to the front the windows move out of the way?
[04:10] <Kohlrak> Paro[Away]: http://paste.ubuntu.com/40325/
[04:10] <daviduxe> lsd|ninja: sadly i am unable to use wifi, i can use a LAN cable though. could we maybe chat in a pm?
[04:10] <PokerFace> yeah2. i know. my cousin told me. but im afraid that some of my softwares might not run in ubuntu
[04:10] <geek_> PokerFace: you can use wubi as a nice easy way to try ubuntu in the meanwhile actually
[04:10] <PokerFace> wubi? just like VMware?
[04:10] <robert__> or do like me and just repartion your windows drive and do dual boot
[04:10] <geek_> it installs and uninstalls from windows, needs to repartitioning, and works decently with a few craveats
[04:11] <geek_> PokerFace: its a full install hosted on a disk image...
[04:11] <PokerFace> i really dont understand dude.
[04:11] <PokerFace> -->rookie.
[04:11] <PokerFace> :(
[04:12] <master_> hi
[04:12] <LSD|Ninja> daviduxe: What specific Atheros chip do you have in there (lspci | grep Ethernet)? The version of madwifi in Hardy covers most of the b/g Atheros chips but some of the newer ones (in particular the ones that are n-capable) may not be supported by that version. They are supported in later versions though and that's where things get tricky
 PokerFace: its a full install hosted on a disk image... -> what do you really mean at dude?
[04:12] <geek_> PokerFace: basically instead of partitioning your disk, ubuntu runs off a file in your hard drive. it does boot like a normal OS though
[04:12] <roboton> Madpilot: I already set my keyboard layout to USA-MAC still same thing
[04:12] <master_> ı need for ubuntu 8.04 vdr
[04:12] <Madpilot> roboton, odd. I've gotten used to us-intl, myself, but it does take some adjustment.
[04:13] <PokerFace> il try to gather some info about ubuntu...BRB
[04:13] <Kohlrak> Pokerface: basically, your computer runs something called an OS. It's a program that runs other programs within it (IE: windows, ubuntu, mac). Ubuntu can co-exist with windows if yu need it to.
[04:13] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: can i also get the output of 'lspci | grep ATI'?
[04:14] <Madpilot> roboton, try the Generic 104-key layout
[04:14] <roboton> Madpilot: got it keyboard model is dell 101 PC + mac layout
[04:14] <roboton> Madpilot: now I can type " as usual, thanks a lot
[04:14] <master_> pls help me for vdr
[04:14] <Madpilot> roboton, no problem.
[04:14] <Madpilot> glad you got it sorted
[04:14] <arooni>  http://www.burningangel.com/media/trailers/mayhem_ja_jd_bgg_trailer_ba_high.wmv
[04:14] <XX01XX> wubi seems to be working fine up to a point... and then the screen goes black and stays that way.
[04:15] <Kohlrak> Paro[Away]: http://paste.ubuntu.com/40327/ Are you looking for anything specific?
[04:15] <PokerFace> what are the system requirements of ubuntu?
[04:15] <Lyk4n8rwp0S> Hello, question : Can somebody please tell me how can I see what kernel modules I am loading during start-up (Ι have used lsmod) and how can I find their loading times? Thank you!
[04:15] <Kohlrak> I will say that one entry is odd, though, Paro... Why is ati my audio device when it's clearly something else?
[04:16] <Kohlrak> Pokerface: i'll tell you if your computer can use ubuntu or not. What version of windows are you running?
[04:16] <master_> ı need vdr for ubuntu 8.04
[04:16] <Madpilot> PokerFace, fairly low. Lower than needed to run XP well.
[04:16] <daviduxe> LSD|Ninja: err not sure, in winXP device manager it says 11a/b/g Wireless Lan Mini PCI Adapter; and Broadcom NetXtreme Gigabit Ethernet
[04:16] <PokerFace> XP. Windows XP
[04:16] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: sorry, just trying to get a better picture of your machine ^.^;
[04:16] <PokerFace> i have a 512 + 256 RAM
[04:17] <Madpilot> PokerFace, you'll have no problem with Ubuntu, likely.
[04:17] <Kohlrak> It's ok Paro[Away], if you can find something it's welcomed
[04:17] <LSD|Ninja> daviduxe: Oh, Broadcom. That's an entirely different kettle of fish
[04:17] <PokerFace> and my VCARD is very low. TNT Vcard. it has 256
[04:17] <Kohlrak> ﻿PokerFace: my computer was a windows xp. As long as you have at least 4 gigs of free space left over, you're fine.
[04:17] <Joeseph> When I connect to my Vista computer over my network, I can see the computer, but I have to manually enter the name of a folder to see anything inside the computer.  This was not a problem until trying to set up my printer.  How can I either set up my printer manually or make the printer appear?
[04:17] <Kohlrak> PokerFace: Ubuntu is notorious for running faster than windows despite being heavier loaded on graphics.
[04:18] <PokerFace> Kohlrak: how can i use dual OS?
[04:18] <_spm_Draget> I am dualbooting with windows and my ubuntu time is 4 hours off. Where do I set ubuntu to use the local time instead?
[04:18] <Joeseph> I really need to know what port to use.
[04:18] <Kohlrak> PokerFace: It's the default operation to dual boot
[04:18] <Madpilot> ubottu, dualboot | PokerFace
[04:18] <PokerFace> oh. where can i set it then?
[04:18] <LSD|Ninja> daviduxe: install b43-fwcutter over your wired connection and then the Broadcom driver should become avaialble in the usual Hardware panel
[04:18] <daviduxe> LSD|Ninja uh oh. But i still have an atheros chip, right? The "manufacturer" for the 11a/b/g Wireless Lan Mini PCI Adapter under the device manager says Atheros communications, inc.
[04:18] <PokerFace> i have my extra HD here. i put it in SLAVE
[04:19] <_spm_Draget> In some config file I can set it to use the localtime instead of CET or something like this. Where I can fix this when dualbooting with windows?
[04:19] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: hmmm... *thinks* i hate graphics drivers under linux T.T the second most complicated piece of user-programmable HW in the machine and you can't control it properly >.<
[04:19] <Kohlrak> PokerFace: Basically, you're gonna have to make the ubuntu cd with a cd burner (there are instructions online). The rest is pretty straight forward
[04:19] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: I assume using the open source 'ati' driver didn't work out so well? with the X300-like card in your laptop, there should be 3d acceleration with that driver
[04:19] <PokerFace> Can i run some softwares here in ubuntu that came from windows originally?
[04:20] <PokerFace> Can i run some softwares here in ubuntu that came from windows originally?
[04:20] <usser> PokerFace, yes certain software, go to appdb.winehq.org for the list
[04:20] <LSD|Ninja> daviduxe: what does lspci say the card is? Make sure your system is as up to date as it can be before you try so you can ensure the pci ids are up to date
[04:20] <_spm_Draget> Nobody?
[04:20] <pookmu> PokerFace in wine.
[04:20] <LSD|Ninja> daviduxe: last I checked, Broadcom and Atheros were two seperate and competing companies
[04:20] <Kohlrak> Paro[Away]: Hardware drivers in linux are the cause of most problems i've seen in here. I never tried the open source driver, but i figured it wouldn't work with me so i didn't try it.
[04:20] <PokerFace> sooo can you share some softwares whenever i've done installing ubuntu?..
[04:20] <phantomcircuit> Paro[Away], it has more to do with the hardware manufacturers being assholes and less to do with linux
[04:20] <Kohlrak> Pokerface: Also, you can install windows in "Vmware"
[04:21] <Joeseph> The instruction line for the smb:// printer is a bit ambiguous.  Could somone tell me what to put in for the supposed setup of  "smb://[workgrou/]server[:port]/printer"
[04:21] <pookmu> PokerFace no need to pirate software, its free
[04:21] <usser> PokerFace, we cant share softwares unless they are oss
[04:21] <legend2440> _spm_Draget: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6285
[04:21] <daviduxe> LSD|Ninja: awesome thanks for the advice! one thing i should note, I can see all the wireless networks in range, including my own, but when i type in the password (and i'm almost certain it's wep 64bit ASCII, open whatever) it just tries to connect for a while and then just fails
[04:21] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: Give it a try ^.^ the open soruce driver was created and released by ATI, just with all the code visible to developers. Graphics companies are very loathe to open their drivers because it gives significant information about the card's internal hardware
[04:21] <PokerFace> Umware?
[04:21] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: the time will come though; the open source drivers are maturing steadily and are already in some ways better than the proprietary drivers for the new cards
[04:22] <Joeseph> I'm not really sure what the brackets mean.  Optional? do I actually need them in brackets?
[04:22] <LSD|Ninja> daviduxe: Oh, if you can see andat least begin to connect then that means everythign is working on the driver front
[04:22] <Kohlrak> Paro[Away]: i guess it couldn't hurt... But how would i go about accomplishing this?
[04:22] <guesswho> pokerface; why use wine? set up a windows virtualbox
[04:22] <daviduxe> LSD|Ninja: yeah hmm.
[04:22] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: go into the restricted drivers manager again, uncheck fglrx, save and restart
[04:23] <Kohlrak> Paro[Away]: wouldn't that just put me back in VESA?
[04:23] <usser> guesswho, well wine is for the games
[04:23] <LSD|Ninja> usser: not originally
[04:24] <Joeseph> sorry, I think I'm asking a pretty straightforward question. Could anyone help me out on getting my windows printer to work? I just need clarification.  google is not being very informative.
[04:24] <guesswho> usser; i see.. but i heard wine makes security no good for your system, virtual box could do the same thing and safer
[04:24] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: do you mean back to a text interface? no. it should default back to the ati set of drivers (that's how it's worked for me in the past...)
[04:24] <LSD|Ninja> Joeseph: Is the printer you're trying to connect to supported by Windows drivers?
[04:24] <greendot> so my friend is installing Ubuntu and he keeps getting an ata revalidation error when trying to install, and he also gets a green screen if it finally boots up.  what do we do about this issue?
[04:24] <LSD|Ninja> Linux drivers, sorry
[04:24] <PokerFace> http://appdb.winehq.org/ -> is this site for downloadable games in ubuntu?
[04:24] <guesswho> Joeseph; goto a windows irc server, this is ubuntu support
[04:24] <jordo2323> geek_:  I got connected, but only with encryption off....how do you set the encryption through the command line?
[04:25] <Joeseph> guesswho: it's not a windows question. It's a very ubuntu question.
[04:25] <HolyRoses> anyone here want my handheld video encoder? encodes for ipod, iphone, ipod touch, zune, psp.  uses ffmpeg and perl.  can dcc if you want it.
[04:25] <jordo2323> geek_: in other words, how do I connect to an encrypted network through the command line... :)
[04:25] <daviduxe> LSD|Ninja: should i reboot into ubuntu so i can show you the lspci readout?
[04:25] <usser> guesswho, yes wine does allow to run some viruses, but its pretty well sandboxed the most damage they can do is destroy your home directory
[04:25] <Kohlrak> Para[Away]: I mean what i used before the proprietary driver (VESA Mode, which means it's a standard graphics driver that all video cards follow)
[04:25] <LSD|Ninja> Joeseph: Does the printer you're trying to connect to have Linux drivers available?
[04:25] <geek_> jordo2323: no idea, i use network manager and its front ends ;p
[04:26] <Joeseph> LSD|Ninja: I do not know.  I will search and see.  I just figured I would be able to at least see it.  just a minute then.....
[04:26] <greendot> my friend is installing Ubuntu and he keeps getting an ata revalidation error when trying to install, and he also gets a green screen if it finally boots up.  what do we do about this issue?
[04:26] <guesswho> usser; but a virtual box is safer right?
[04:26] <jordo2323> geek_: so do I, but for some reason the wireless functions of network manager does not work....I can still connect to an unprotected network by doing sudo dhclient though...
[04:26] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: you're sure it wasn't the mesa driver?
[04:27] <jordo2323> For anyone.....how do you connect to a WEP encrypted wireless network using the command line?
[04:27] <usser> guesswho, yes. it is. just make sure you backup your VM regularly
[04:27] <Kohlrak> Paro[Away]: Could've been that too... They're both pretty much the same thing.
[04:27] <yuri_> my h.264 playback is choppy in all video players... how do i fix this?
[04:27] <Joeseph> LSD|Ninja:  On linuxprinting.org, it shows my printer as working 'perfectly' with the suggested 'hpijs' driver.  Will I have to install it manually? I figured It would ask me for a driver once I found it.
[04:28] <rpm> hi Yuri
[04:28] <rpm> konnichiwa
[04:28] <guesswho> usser; yeah or you can run it directly from an iso right? so everytime it boots from a iso OS image?
[04:28] <usser> Joeseph, if your printer is hp your golden
[04:29] <usser> Joeseph, go to system->administration->printing add it find your model etc it'll work flawlessly
[04:29] <_spm_Draget> How do I install a specifig version of something? Like gcc-3.3 or qt4?
[04:29] <_spm_Draget> With aptitude
[04:29] <LSD|Ninja> Joeseph: Check synaptic, it might be installed already. You should be able to find a guide on how to set it up somewhere, just remember to give it the UNC address of your WIndows printer as the target
[04:29] <usser> guesswho, thats a bit paranoid but, i guess u can do it. are running a live cd inside virtualbox?
[04:29] <Joeseph> usser: the printer does not show up, however, the vista pc shows up, but when I click on it, it doesn't show any printers.  same with folders, but I can access them with the right name.
[04:30] <guesswho> Joeseph; i have an epson and had no problems, do you have some kind of weird chinese brand printer or something?
[04:30] <LSD|Ninja> Joeseph: Oh, that's normal
[04:30] <kraypius> ubuntu drive encryption is nice but it seems there should be an option to wipe the drive sectors as it encrypts the volume
[04:30] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: the only thing I personally can think of at this point is to try using the ati drivers with dri enabled; i'm not sure what else (beyond faulty hw support in fglrx) that could be causing the flicker off the top of my head
[04:30] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: try switching back to the ati drivers and enabling DRI (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/RadeonXpress)
[04:30] <Joeseph> LSD|Ninja: So I guess I really just need to know how to decipher the line its asking me to give.  It's a bit ambiguous in my opinion.
[04:30] <guesswho> usser; yes, its the samething i did in VMware, but i will create my own live cd soeverything i need is there, like how they will do in a workplace
[04:31] <kraypius> im in the middle of installing ubuntu right now with drive encryption and im thinking i may want to go back and scrub the drives with a few wipes and reinstall
[04:31] <usser> Joeseph, system->administration->printing then new printer choose windows printer with samba, type the name of your vista machine(may have to type ip) followed by the shared printer name.
[04:31] <kraypius> drive*
[04:31] <LSD|Ninja> Joeseph: usually it's just smb://user:password@Workgroup/Share but you still need the normal local printing support set up and working first
[04:31] <usser> Joeseph, ^
[04:31] <guesswho> usser; say i have a customized xp iso, and it boots everything with the same programs ,registry settings and all.. not paranoid, im just hopeing secure :)
[04:31] <Kohlrak> i thought dri was enabled in fglrx... no wonder there's a flicker...
[04:32] <LSD|Ninja> Joeseph: sorry, /Workgroup/Computer/Share
[04:32] <Paro[Away]> dri is enabled in fglrx, it's that the fglrx driver is really crappy
[04:32] <Joeseph> usser, LSD|Ninja: So I'll download the driver, enter in that magic line, and come back to you.
[04:32] <usser> Joeseph, no need to download ubuntu has it built in
[04:32] <Paro[Away]> Kohlrak: if you ever want to check: 'glxinfo | grep direct'
[04:32] <usser> Joeseph, is the printer a hewlet packard?
[04:33] <Kohlrak> Paro[Away]Alright, let's see what we can do with this tehn.
[04:33] <Joeseph> yes
[04:33] <kraypius> is anyone else using the built in volume enctyption?
[04:33] <usser> guesswho, yea i can see the point but can do all that with snapshots.
[04:33] <kraypius> encryption*
[04:33] <Omoikane_> Anyone know much about getting drawing tablets to work in ubuntu?
[04:33] <LSD|Ninja> kraypius: I don't bother with that tinfoil hat stuff
[04:33] <guesswho> usser; i have not learn about snapshots yet
[04:33] <Joeseph> usser: I'll type in that line using your way. it's the line I'm having trouble with now.
[04:33] <monofuel> how can i set it up in ubuntu to for my xbox 360 to be plugged in to my computer's ethernet port, and let it use my wireless internet connection?
[04:33] <kraypius> LSD|Ninja, heh maybe because you dont have a reason to
[04:33] <LSD|Ninja> Joeseph: Hang five, I'm checking what I use for my Brotehr laser
[04:33] <Paro[Away]> Omoikane: what kind of tablet do you have and what version of ubuntu are you running?
[04:34] <usser> guesswho, virtualbox allows you to take a snapshot of a VM once its setup, and every time u power it on its gonna start from exact state it was when u took the snapshot
[04:34] <LSD|Ninja> kraypius: I find most people who are using stuff like that don't ;)
[04:34] <usser> Joeseph, are u sure the printer is shared on vista? can u see it using that browse button?
[04:34] <guesswho> usser; very nice :) im likeing ubuntu better then windows every day
[04:34] <Omoikane> Para[away] Bamboo fun small tablet and I'm running hardy
[04:34] <Joeseph> usser: I cannot see it with the browse button, but I can print from my vista laptop to it.
[04:34] <usser> guesswho, :)
[04:35] <greendot> my friend is installing Ubuntu and he keeps getting an ata revalidation error when trying to install, and he also gets a green screen if it finally boots up.  what do we do about this issue?
[04:35] <usser> Joeseph, the printer is connected to the laptop? using usb cable?
[04:35] <usser> Joeseph, whats the general setup?
[04:35] <kraypius> LSD|Ninja, i can tell you with absolute certainty that I do need it. On that note, any idea what algorithm it uses?
[04:35] <guesswho> monofuel; i dont think xbox360 will work very well with ubuntu considering it is a microsoft product
[04:35] <kraypius> aes im assuming?
[04:35] <Paro[Away]> Omoikane: bamboo is a wacom tablet, right?
[04:35] <LSD|Ninja> usser: There's nothing wrong with the share, Ubuntu's SMB client is just broken
[04:35] <usser> LSD|Ninja, smb client works just fine
[04:35] <Omoikane> Para[away] yeah
[04:35] <monofuel> i'm sure i could let it use the internet connection right?
[04:35] <SeaPhor> Ubuntu kicks windows A---Bu---out the door/ to the curb!
[04:35] <kraypius> there are no options to choose algorithm or hash type
[04:36] <AdrianStrays> Can anyone tell me what the windows channel is?
[04:36] <Joeseph> usser: My vista pc acts as as the 'server' and a normal desktop to.  A networked laptop using vista can print from it. I file share from ubuntu off of it.
[04:36] <LSD|Ninja> usser: I'm familiar with the issue he's having as I see it myself all the time
[04:36] <Paro[Away]> Omoikane: the tablet should just work under hardy. plug it in while the machine's off, start things up and all should be well
[04:36] <svensk1> can someone tell me what the ubuntu equivilant to /.xinitrc is?
[04:36] <monofuel> i'll never pay 100$ for that stupid wireless connector for the 360
[04:36] <guesswho> AdrianStrays: lol not in the ubuntu irc server :)
[04:36] <LSD|Ninja> usser: You won't see any shares even though you know they're there. Only way to access the shares is by entering the name into the address bar
[04:36] <usser> LSD|Ninja, oh...
[04:36] <LSD|Ninja> usser: It's a client issue, not a server one
[04:37] <legend2440> Omoikane   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=765915
[04:37] <Omoikane> Para[away] it's not.
[04:37] <usser> LSD|Ninja, no no no thats something else
[04:37] <guesswho> monofuel; there is a article on my website that shows you how to hook it up wireless for free on my website www.live-xbox360.com
[04:37] <svensk1> can someone tell me what the ubuntu equivilant to /.xinitrc is?
[04:37] <usser> LSD|Ninja, thats a gnome gvfs bug, its a known thing but it has nothing to do with the printers
[04:37] <simon_sk8> hola conchasumacdress
[04:37] <LSD|Ninja> usser: I know, that's what I'm getting at
[04:37] <monofuel> thx i'll check that out
[04:37] <Paro[Away]> monofuel: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/sharing-internet-connection-in-ubuntu.html
[04:37] <Joeseph> If anyone has a printer shared, could they possibly share their 'smb' line?  you can put in fake variable words to make it easier.
[04:37] <LSD|Ninja> usser: He's already said otehr machines can see and print just fine
[04:37] <greendot> my friend is installing Ubuntu and he keeps getting an ata revalidation error when trying to install, and he also gets a green screen if it finally boots up.  what do we do about this issue?
[04:38] <LSD|Ninja> Joeseph: I'm digging for mine right now
[04:38] <simon_sk8> spanish ??
[04:38] <monofuel> i'll check that out too
[04:38] <simon_sk8> fuck me
[04:38] <Paro[Away]> Omoikane: well, i tried T.T that link of legend's should help ;)
[04:38] <simon_sk8> ajajja
[04:38] <usser> Joeseph, all there is to it smb:///newname/printer
[04:38] <guesswho> simon_sk8; http://translate.google.com/translate_t
[04:38] <simon_sk8> thank
[04:38] <simon_sk8> chet
[04:38] <simon_sk8> jajaj
[04:38] <usser> Joeseph, u just have to know the shared name of the printer cause the one that vista shows in printers and faxes is something else
[04:39] <guesswho> simon_sk8; no problemo amigo
[04:39] <svensk1> ﻿can someone tell me what the ubuntu equivilant to /.xinitrc is?
[04:39] <LSD|Ninja> Joeseph: smb:///username:password@computer/Printer f the share has a password attached
[04:39] <Joeseph> usser: I'll go check to make sure I have the 'shared' name  I may just have the normal name.
[04:40] <usser> Joeseph, yea right click on it theres gotta be something like sharing and security, i dont remember exact phrasing
[04:40] <svensk1> ﻿can someone tell me what the ubuntu equivilant to /.xinitrc is?
[04:40] <SeaPhor> svensk1, if i had to guess it would be rc.local
[04:40] <platyhelminth_> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqKkjx-_OjE
[04:40] <LSD|Ninja> svensk1: ~/.xinitrc ;)
[04:40] <Xpistos> can anyone help me turning vob files into avi in ubuntu
[04:40] <Omoikane> Para[away] thanks
[04:41] <svensk1> LSD|Ninja: does it need to be copying from somewhere?
[04:41] <Paro[Away]> LSD|Ninja: if you use gdm, xinit isn't called and I don't think .xinitrc is read...
[04:41]  * usser isnt it .xsession or something?
[04:41] <LSD|Ninja> Paro[Away]: I was just about to get to that
[04:41] <guesswho> any idea on how i can change it from going to quanta everytime i click on a link in irc to goto firefox?
[04:41] <svensk1> i believe i'll be using gdm, but i'll be running awesome window manager
[04:41] <Paro[Away]> Ah, super ^.^
[04:41] <De[X]tone> afternoon guys...
[04:42] <Paro[Away]> Evening, dextone
[04:42] <svensk1> i quite frankly can't stand gnome for anything beyond IRC and updating
[04:42] <m0u5e> Xpistos: why would you want to? you'd lose quality :(
[04:42] <usser> night, dexton
[04:42] <dextone> what's new guys ?
[04:42]  * Paro[Away] ponders that question
[04:42] <Joeseph> LSD|Ninja: okay, new problem.  Whenever I hit the @ for the user name and password, it switches the line to "/localhost"
[04:42] <FAJALOU> friend trying to mount a corrupted ntfs HDD, how can he do it?
[04:43] <Paro[Away]> ... It's several hours later than the last time I was awake? o.O
[04:43] <Xpistos> vobs are huge and segmented. I want to join them into one nice package and since I am only viewing them at a small res it is worht it
[04:43] <m0u5e> FAJALOU: try using ntfs-progs to ntfsfix his harddrive
[04:43] <m0u5e> FAJALOU: if that doesnt work, you might need to boot into windows to run a chkdsk before you can mount it in linux
[04:43] <FAJALOU> m0u5e: tried ntfsfix, and he can't boot to windows, (virus)
[04:43] <phantomcircuit> FAJALOU, sleuthkit, but that's far more advanced
[04:43] <usser> Joeseph, put a tick at authentification required and enter username and password there
[04:44] <m0u5e> FAJALOU: does he have a windows cd? he can boot into automated recovery if he does
[04:44] <simon_sk8> maricas
[04:44] <unop> FAJALOU, chkdsk in windows safe mode
[04:45] <usser> FAJALOU, as a last resort u can force mount it man ntfs-3g /dev/sd[] /mnt -o force
[04:45] <FAJALOU> unop:  he cannot access windows
[04:45] <m0u5e> FAJALOU: it wont matter, as long as he has a cd he can boot into Automated recovery
[04:45] <Xpistos> FAJALOU nah, unop is right. run the chkdsk /f /r
[04:45] <USERNAME> yo how is zday
[04:45] <master_> FAJALOU, as a last resort u can force mount it man ntfs-3g /dev/sd[] /mnt -o force
[04:46] <guesswho> platyhelminth_: did you make that video? if so you need to work on your shooting
[04:46] <AdrianStrays> I know this is the UBuntu channel, but the guys on the windows ones are useless.  ﻿I recently reinstalled windows, and its all screwy.  The sound doesn't work, the keyboard layout is wrong, and for some reason it was under the impression that my monitor was two monitors.  I openned device manager and removed the yellow hardwares, and attempted a restart. Upon restart, the screen was messed up, with lines going everywhere and wh
[04:46] <fsloke> Enter text here...hi all
[04:46] <tutuca> Hi. I've installed the last flashplayer from Markus Thielmann's repository but it fails with this error http://dpaste.com/73627/, anyone has a clue about what's happening?
[04:46] <FAJALOU> http://paste.ubuntu.com/40331/  that is his fstab...
[04:46] <master_> open windows later star shutdown
[04:46] <master_> ok
[04:46] <platyhelminth_> guesswho no i just found it in youtube
[04:46] <fsloke> I facing a problem
[04:46] <Paro[Away]> hi fsloke
[04:46] <m0u5e> Xpistos: try avidemux or mkvtoolnix?
[04:46] <master_>  FAJALOU, as a last resort u can force mount it man ntfs-3g /dev/sd[] /mnt -o force
[04:46] <unop> FAJALOU, well, only the windows tools can reliably restore the volume .. so you might want to investigate more on this in ##windows
[04:46] <Joeseph> LSD|Ninja, usser: Odd..... it said it wasn't shared on my vista pc, even though I can print on it off my vista laptop..... so I shared it, and it seems to be working a bit better now.
[04:47] <fsloke> I installed the libtiff using Synaptic Package Manager
[04:47] <usser> Joeseph, you and your super secure vista ways :_
[04:47] <Xpistos> mOu5e: Thanks. I only have a few I need to move anyway
[04:47] <fsloke> but I don't where the lib is located
[04:47] <pajamian> AdrianStrays: the only advice for that problem that you'll be able to get in here is to download the ubuntu live CD and install ubuntu.
[04:47] <usser> Joeseph, so does it print from ubuntu?
[04:47] <master_> ı need vdr help pls
[04:47] <m0u5e> Xpistos: no problem (theres a few more, but in my experience, video editting hasn't been a very fun experience for me linux, so good luck)
[04:47] <amanulla> hiiiiiiii
[04:48] <Joeseph> usser: I've added it now, I'm about to test it...... but it's not my vista computer....
[04:48] <FAJALOU> master_  when i tried this with :  sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sdc /mount/Window_Corrupt -o force     it said that:  Maybe you selected the wrong device? Or the whole disk instead of a partition (e.g. /dev/hda, not /dev/hda1)? Or the other way around?
[04:48] <Paro[Away]> fsloke: why do you need to know where the lib files are? (probably in /usr/lib...)
[04:48] <LSD|Ninja> Joeseph: sounds like a permissions issue then
[04:48] <fsloke> bcs my application need the lib file....
[04:48] <fsloke> TIFFINC=/usr/include
[04:48] <fsloke> LIBTIFF=-L/usr/lib -ltiff
[04:48] <usser> FAJALOU, you have to select a partition is /dev/sdc1 or whatever number corresponds to your windows partition
[04:48] <amanulla> i have a small problem can any body help me..........
[04:49] <usser> FAJALOU, err ie /dev/sdc1
[04:49] <svensk1> does anyone else here have an issue with firefox freezing? i have ubuntu on 3 computers and all three have had issues with firefox freezing
[04:49] <pajamian> !ask amanulla
[04:49] <fsloke> but it look like didn't works..
[04:49] <pajamian> !ask | amanulla
[04:49] <fsloke> I go in usr/include
[04:49] <fsloke> but didn't found the libtiff.h
[04:49] <usser> svensk1, its the flashplayer
[04:49] <usser> svensk1, uninstall it and you'll be one happy chap
[04:49] <amanulla> i have been using xp+linux(ubuntu 7 )2 months back
[04:49] <svensk1> even when i'm not on pages that are using flash?
[04:50] <Paro[Away]> fsloke, you've installed libtiff4-dev, too, right?
[04:50] <amanulla> i cant configure internet connection over there
[04:50] <svensk1> is there a reasonable solution to the flash player?
[04:50] <usser> svensk1, are u sure there arent any animated banners on those pages?
[04:50] <usser> svensk1, as of now, probably not, flash support sucks on linux
[04:50] <svensk1> usser: it also seems like after it freezes and i force quit that it refuses to open again
[04:50] <Joeseph> Anyway, I seem to have it installed, but it gives me an error when I print.  I'll have to figure this out at a later time.  Thanks for the help though.
[04:51] <Paro[Away]> amanulla: where can't you configure the internet connection?
[04:51] <svensk1> is that another common symptom?
[04:51] <amanulla> i recently installed ubuntu 8 in xp as an application programme as this option was provided
[04:51] <usser> svensk1, even if u force quit it, it still runs in the background u have to do killall -9 firefox-bin to completely kill it
[04:52] <fsloke> no
[04:52] <FAJALOU> so my friend is half way to getting this to work, but it says that the mountpoint doesn't exist for ntfs-3g...
[04:52] <usser> FAJALOU, it probably doesnt use /mnt
[04:52] <unop> FAJALOU, and how is he trying to mount this device now?
[04:52] <amanulla> but when ever i logged in ubuntu 8 my screen brightness being at a minimum level so i have to manullay adjust it to maximum level
[04:53] <usser> FAJALOU, as a mount point
[04:53] <Xpistos> m0u5e: Good looking out brother ﻿avidemux is a winner!
[04:53] <amanulla> can any one find a solution pleaseeeeeee
[04:53] <FAJALOU> unop:  usser:    sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /mount/Window_Corrupt -o force
[04:53] <Kalamansi> hello :) is there a converter for mp4 to avi? :)
[04:53] <usser> FAJALOU, sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /mnt -o force
[04:53] <usser> Kalamansi, mencoder, ffmpeg
[04:53] <green_and_high_o> ntfs-3g should not need sudo
[04:54] <green_and_high_o> I would recommend using pmount for mounting anything as user
[04:54] <Kalamansi> usser : sudo apt-get install ﻿mencoder?
[04:54] <unop> FAJALOU, he's got the command all wrong
[04:54] <amanulla> any one willing to solve my problemmmmm?
[04:54] <neilvaage> Hmmm.. wonder what is causing this 3D corruption when running Hardy on EEE 900. Not sure what dependencies I have messed up :D
[04:54] <Kalamansi> usser : same also to sudo apt-get install ffmpeg?
[04:54] <FAJALOU> unop:  when he plugged in that command it went through successfully
[04:54] <usser> Kalamansi, yes but ffmpeg is command-line utility that has some learning curve to it
[04:55] <Kalamansi> usser : is the a prorgram for desktop?
[04:55] <FAJALOU> unop:  so where can his drive now?
[04:55] <Kalamansi> usser : im not good in command-line...
[04:55] <unop> FAJALOU, use mount to find out
[04:55] <usser> Kalamansi, mencoder but i've never used it
[04:55] <amanulla> heeyyyyyyyyy any one there
[04:55] <FAJALOU> unop:  just type in mount?
[04:55] <unop> FAJALOU, yes
[04:55] <usser> FAJALOU, its in /mnt
[04:55] <Paro[Away]> amanulla: you installed ubuntu inside of a windows partition using wubi?
[04:56] <neilvaage> There sure is amanulla ;)
[04:56] <FAJALOU> ok
[04:56] <Kalamansi> usser thanks :) ill use mencoder
[04:56] <unop> usser, i shouldn't think so .. there's nothing in his command to indicate it would be mounted under /mnt
[04:56] <amanulla> ya in ubuntu 8 that option was given and i installed it
[04:56] <amanulla> im working it with same
[04:56] <amanulla> but problem is
[04:56] <usser> unop, ehm <usser> FAJALOU, sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /mnt -o force
[04:57] <amanulla>  but when ever i logged in ubuntu 8 my screen brightness being at a minimum level so i have to manullay adjust it to maximum level
[04:57] <usser> unop, <FAJALOU> unop:  when he plugged in that command it went through successfully
[04:57] <master_> hel pme
[04:57] <master_> help me
[04:57] <unop> usser,   sudo ntfs-3g /dev/sdc1 /mount/Window_Corrupt -o force
[04:57] <master_> for vdr program
[04:57] <usser> unop, read below that
[04:57] <FAJALOU> !ask | master_
[04:57] <unop> usser, i only see your suggestion to him.
[04:57] <fsloke> Yes, ok already
[04:58] <neilvaage> Anyone got any tips for and apt-get installs for fixing flickering while running 3D like UrbanTerror/Cedega games? Also seem to affect the 3D function of Chess, flickers between 2D and 3D view.
[04:58] <fsloke> Thank a lot!!!
[04:58] <amanulla> im totally confused over here
[04:58] <neilvaage> It
[04:58] <amanulla> pls some one wish to chat with me to solve my problem
[04:59] <neilvaage> It's not like i expect wonders from a 915GM chipset
[04:59] <neilvaage> But I am sure I might have missed some fixability
[05:00] <jrican> how can i install macromedia flash player in ubuntu
[05:00] <carandraug> neilvaage: you're using compiz?
[05:00] <SitUbuntuSit> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[05:00] <usser> jrican, sudo apt-get install flasplugin-nonfree
[05:00] <neilvaage> Yeah, compiz runs fine though
[05:00] <jkatana> I'm new to linux, and I'm looking for an ide for most languages in web development(html,css,javascript,php), anyone have any suggestions?
[05:01] <jrican> ok thx
[05:01] <amanulla> im workin with windows..........
[05:01] <jkatana> basically, anything with decent syntax highlighting is good enough for me
[05:02] <SitUbuntuSit> !patience | amanulla
[05:02] <neilvaage> I've always just loved coding websites in a notepad, so not really sure jkatana.
[05:02] <usser> jkatana, try kate
[05:02] <carandraug> neilvaage: yea, still compiz can be quite the performance killer. Try running in a terminal "metacity --replace &"
[05:02] <SeveredCross> Or press Alt-F2 and run metacity --replace.
[05:02] <SeveredCross> There's not a need for a terminal for everything. ;)
[05:03] <neilvaage> Yeah was thinking that too, but would really prefer having the eyecandy ;D
[05:03] <FAJALOU> unop, usser:  it worked thank you
[05:03] <Kalamansi> usser : i dont see the mencoder in Applications, Places even in System...
[05:03] <jkatana> ok, I also heard about 'vim', I tried it once and got bamboozled until I closed it, I heard it could be used for an ide, does it support syntax highlighting?
[05:03] <carandraug> neilvaage: once you're done playing, you can go back to compiz with the command "compiz --replace &" It has worked for me and some other people with tha problem before
[05:03] <jgiorgi> is there a way to run ubuntu live from a hard drive partition? im having problems in windows with my burning and my bios doesnt support usb flashdrives
[05:03] <neilvaage> I just find it strange how Chess when putting it in 3D View starts flickering between 2D and 3D mode, like it can't decide.
[05:04] <kraypius> im having a problem. i just did a fresh install and now after the ubuntu loading screen there is just a blinking cursor that seems will never end
[05:05] <usser> Kalamansi, whops, my bad mencoder is cmd tool also, theres various frontends to it, try konverter
[05:05] <neff1205> im having trouble getting my sound to work on my p105 Toshiba satellite, i've tried many solutions, but none seem to work, any suggestions?
[05:05] <jrican> does ubuntu supports AWLL6070 (wifi adapter)?
[05:05] <G3N0> anyone here familiar with kismet?
[05:05] <carandraug> neilvaage: I don't know any workaround other than that. Give it a try just to make sure if would solve. You can easily come back to compiz anytime with that command,
[05:05] <neilvaage> Yeah I know, use the --replace quite a bit, but it doesn
[05:06] <amanulla>  im having a problem. i just did a fresh install and now after the ubuntu 8 logged in my screen brightness is being decreased
[05:06] <neilvaage> doesn't fix the Chess 3D view issue for me, tried that before
[05:06] <amanulla>  im having a problem. i just did a fresh install and now after the ubuntu 8 logged in my screen brightness is being decreased
[05:06] <neilvaage> Must be something with my drivers or dependencies somewhere I guess.
[05:06] <amanulla> any one
[05:06] <pajamian> !repeat amanulla
[05:06] <pajamian> !repeat | amanulla
[05:06] <G3N0> I have flash installed, it wont play music or stream it and wont play youtube videos
[05:06] <amanulla> k
[05:06] <jrican> does ubuntu supports AWLL6070 (wifi adapter)?
[05:07] <G3N0> and it wont play redtube :(
[05:07] <Kalamansi>  usser : kala@kala:~$ sudo apt-get install konverter ..Reading package lists... Done ..Building dependency tree ...Reading state information... Done ...E: Couldn't find package konverter..kala@kala:~$
[05:07] <pajamian> !hardware | jrican
[05:07] <neilvaage> amanulla try sudo setpci -s 00:02.1 f4.b=ff that worked for me
[05:08] <jrican> ty
[05:08] <neilvaage> But I have no idea if it might mess things up for you though, maybe someone can confirm ;P
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[05:08] <amanulla> i knows nothing about ubuntu i m new to ubuntu
[05:08] <neilvaage> Terminal
[05:08] <amanulla> k
[05:08] <amanulla> ok
[05:09] <neilvaage> "Default" shortcut is Ctrl+Alt+t
[05:09] <pajamian> !terminal | amanulla
 shall i type the same "sudo setpci -s 00:02.1 f4.b=ff"
[05:09] <jordo2323> What was the package in Ubuntu with divx and xvid codecs in it...
[05:09] <jordo2323> I think it was a larger meta package
[05:09] <usser> Kalamansi, http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=9884
[05:09] <amanulla> ok
[05:10] <neilvaage> You can try it amanulla, but like i said, not sure if your chipset works for that.
[05:10] <jordo2323> !divx
[05:10] <usser> Kalamansi, get the package for debian sid it should work
[05:10] <Kalamansi> usser : im using gnome
[05:10] <jrican> it doesnt support it
[05:10] <jrican> dam
[05:11] <AeronTS> is Firefox 3 worth the install?
[05:11] <neff1205> no
[05:11] <kitche> AeronTS: depends if you like the "Awesome" bar or not really
[05:11] <pajamian> AeronTS: that's a very subjective question
[05:11] <AeronTS> *i really wish Mozilla would make it so that all themes will work just as well with newer versions of Firefox
[05:12] <svensk1> is flashplugin-nonfree what causes the firefox freezing?
[05:12] <AeronTS> kitche: where is the awesome bar?
[05:12] <neilvaage> Hasn't frozen for me yet svensken
[05:12] <pajamian> AeronTS: it's the locaton bar
[05:13] <usser> Kalamansi, im sorry i just never used any gui for video encoding, but konverter looks pretty good. u dont have to install whole of kde to use it
[05:13] <AeronTS> that awesome bar doesn't seem that good to me
[05:13] <usser> AeronTS, u cant miss the awesome bar
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[05:14] <amanulla> amanulla@amanulla-laptop:~$ sudo setpci -s 00:02.1 f4.b=ff
[05:14] <amanulla> [sudo] password for amanulla:
[05:14] <amanulla> amanulla@amanulla-laptop:~$ sudo setpci -s 00:02.1 f4.b=ff
[05:14] <amanulla> amanulla@amanulla-laptop:~$
[05:14] <amanulla> amanulla@amanulla-laptop:~$
[05:14] <FloodBot1> amanulla: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:14] <amanulla> sorry
[05:14] <neilvaage> If it does't work, your chipset didn't support it.
[05:15] <neilvaage> Probably because I used it on a intel chipset and you got something else.
[05:15] <kraypius> i need some help guys.. it seems the encrypted volume install doesnt work so good. during boot I get a blinking cursor after the loading screen that lasts forever. upon doing ctrl alt f1 i get : setting up cryptographic volume sdb5_crypt
[05:15] <murlidhar> how to autostart applications in openbox sessions
[05:15] <amanulla> mines is a intel core 2 duo processor
[05:15] <pajamian> amanulla: that has nothing to do with what video chipset you have.
[05:15] <amanulla> any how i will restart system to see
[05:15] <kraypius> i cant boot!!!
[05:16] <neilvaage> I meant graphics chipset :)
[05:16] <murlidhar> how to autostart applications in openbox sessions
[05:16] <eatatjoes> does anyone know what needs to be disabled to make 8.04 not use so many resources (7.10 didnt seem to use as many)
[05:16] <neilvaage> Can remove BT, Printers etc. if you don't use those
[05:16] <amanulla> how to know what graphics chipset
[05:16] <amanulla> is mines
[05:17] <Kalamansi> thanks ussher
[05:17] <pajamian> eatatjoes: the main resource hog in 8.04 seems to be FF3
[05:17] <unop> murlidhar, you might have a ~/.openbox/startup file
[05:17] <neff1205> is there anyway to get someone to remote view my laptop and solve the problem that way?
[05:17] <eatatjoes> pajamian, even w/o firefox 3 open it seems to be using more resources
[05:17] <pajamian> eatatjoes: I can't argue with that, that just seems to be the main one, imo.
[05:17] <neilvaage> neff, yeah but don't ask me how to do it, never had the need/wish for that :P
[05:17] <eatatjoes> pajamian, computer temperature stays higher in ubuntu than in XP!
[05:18] <neilvaage> Mine went down eatatjoes.
[05:18] <Striker_XF35> Does anyone know why full screen games would cause a full crach of ubuntu?
[05:18] <murlidhar> unop : there ain't anything. you mean ./config/openbox/
[05:18] <neilvaage> Then again I am using EEE.
[05:18] <eatatjoes> neilvaage, mine did with 7.10 but not with hardy
[05:18] <murlidhar> ?
[05:18] <unop> murlidhar, perhaps
[05:18] <unop> murlidhar, your best bet would be to refer to the openbox documentation
[05:18] <neilvaage> Striker, not sure, but I have issues with 3D when it comes to games in Hardy.
[05:18] <eatatjoes> is there visual effects or stuff than can be disabled?
[05:18] <murlidhar> unop: there also there isn't any autostart.sh file
[05:19] <pajamian> eatatjoes: yeah, you can disable compiz if it's been enabled (comes disabled by default)
[05:19] <murlidhar> unop: i actually forgot where to find the autostart.sh file
[05:19] <sarndt> join #linuxone
[05:20] <eatatjoes> pajamian,  wheres that at? (i think its disabled already)
[05:20] <murlidhar> unop: i think that is the only option left now .
[05:20] <neilvaage> EVE Online opens splash then crashes to desktop as it opens the window, Chess in 3D view can't decide between 2D and 3D and flickers like a madman, UrbanTerror shows some screen flickering where I have icons on the desktop while Blender also shows anomalies like screenlets not hiding behind it etc.
[05:20] <murlidhar> unop :  thanks anyways
[05:20] <pajamian> eatatjoes: System / Preferences / Appearance
[05:20] <unop> murlidhar, you could use find.   find ~ -iname "*autostart.sh*"
[05:20] <eatatjoes> pajamian, last tab > none?
[05:21] <murlidhar> unop k
[05:21] <pajamian> eatatjoes: yep
[05:21] <neilvaage> But I am using a 915GM inside a tiny little EEE PC, so I ain't expecting wonders, just a shame that it works on the Windows XP partition, I don't want to boot up Windows /sulk
[05:21] <eatatjoes> anyway to see what it using all the resources?
[05:22] <pajamian> eatatjoes: you can run top in the terminal (there are other ways as well)
[05:22] <neilvaage> There's a System Monitor under System > Administration
[05:22] <Striker_XF35> I know I have the nvidia driver installed but the glitch seems to randomly place a full screen game in a normal box but the mouse disappears and keyboard becomes unopperable
[05:23] <shingen> tragik: gksu
[05:23] <Striker_XF35> leaving no option but to hard reset
[05:23] <neff1205> how do I see what hardware i have? chipset, soundcard....ect
[05:23] <shingen> lol, I responded to a question that was 40 minutes old :P
[05:23] <eatatjoes> its showing that gnome-panel is sleeping but 22MB of memory is the highest
[05:24] <neilvaage> With nearly all Compiz snassy effects on, I am using only 200MB ram :x Got to love Ubuntu over XP/Vista, would run at least 500MB there.
[05:24] <eatatjoes> im only using 220MB of RAM but pc seems to be running warmer :/
[05:25] <neilvaage> Fan control issue?
[05:25] <shingen> pssh... I just stripped my windows virtual image down to 150MB :P
[05:25] <Striker_XF35> is there any key combo in ubuntu that acts like alt-ctrl-del does in windows?
[05:25] <pajamian> eatatjoes: I know this may seem obvious, but when was the last time you cleaned out your fans?
[05:25] <eatatjoes> pajamian, today
[05:25] <neilvaage> I forgot what that does Striker lol :D
[05:25] <shingen> Striker_XF35: yeah, ctrl-alt-delete :)
[05:25] <pajamian> eatatjoes: hehehe, ok, just checking
[05:25] <eatatjoes> pajamian,  it runs about 8C cooler in XP than Ubuntu
[05:25] <Striker_XF35> dang
[05:25] <jennifer> hi
[05:25] <neilvaage> Task manager?
[05:26] <karuna_bdc> does anyone know y pidgin keeps on having MSN read errors?
[05:26] <neilvaage> You can bind the exact shortcut to launch the System Monitor if you wanted.
[05:26] <neff1205> conexant CX20551 is the sound card i think?, is there a driver for that?
[05:27] <pajamian> karuna_bdc: nope, it's logged in fine for me.  How long has it been doing that?
[05:27] <jennifer> i have kubuntu-kde4 installed from wubi. i also installed ubuntu-desktop, but now i want to get rid of both and run an ubuntu-minimal. is there a command line guru around that knows how to do that?
[05:28] <shingen> jennifer: sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop for gnome... I can't recall what to remove for kde
[05:28] <jennifer> it's kde4 the one that wubi gave me
[05:28] <karuna_bdc> ﻿pajamian: quite some time, almost a month now
[05:28] <unop> jennifer, http://psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PureKDE
[05:28] <hiptobecubic^> does ubu have the middle-click-toggles-autoscroll feature? i can't find it
[05:28] <shingen> jennifer: find it in synaptic... I can't remember what the package is called
[05:28] <shingen> jennifer: or aptitude even
[05:28] <lint> hi jenniefer =)
[05:28] <unop> shingen, ubuntu-destkop is just a metapackage, removing it has little effect
[05:28] <karuna_bdc> ﻿pajamian: sometimes it can connect but most of the time it says reading error even tho the internet is on just fine
[05:29] <shingen> unop: if you remove it with all dependencies, it will do what you want it to
[05:29]  * usser sighs
[05:29] <pajamian> karuna_bdc: oh well, as I said, it's working fine for me, but we're probably connecting to different msn servers.
[05:29] <jennifer> lint: hi =]
[05:29] <hamzilla> Does ubuntu have an ansi console font installed by default? ie: one that displays all the fancy ansii in BitchX Or epic scripts?
[05:29] <unop> shingen, right, but apt-get does not do that by default
[05:29] <Kohlrak> does anyone know how to get into that applet for the multiple screens?
[05:29] <karuna_bdc> ﻿pajamian: i guess, which country u in?
[05:30] <zeeeee> where is daemon keeping pidfiles? i checked /var/run but i don't see it there.... the command i used is daemon -r -O daemon.info -E daemon.err -n $NAME -U $DAEMON $DAEMON_ARGS
[05:30] <hamzilla> hey pajamian yesterday you gave me some advice on howto get to console and it worked ., thank you :>
[05:30] <pajamian> hamzilla: yeah, I remember that
[05:30] <neff1205> mailto:?Body=vncviewer neff-laptop:0
[05:30] <pajamian> karuna_bdc: New Zelaand
[05:30] <pajamian> gah
[05:30] <hamzilla> it worked - thank you alot.
[05:30] <pajamian> New Zealand
[05:30] <pajamian> hamzilla: yw :-)
[05:31] <karuna_bdc> ﻿pajamian: Malaysia, haha yeap prolly differnet servers
[05:31] <Kohlrak> anyone know the other applet other than screen resolution from the preferances tab that'll allow you to select your resolution?
[05:32] <pajamian> karuna_bdc: most likely it's not a problem on your end of the connection, but a problem with the MSN server you're connecting to or a routing problem that has yet to be resolved.
[05:32] <unsungx> heya, anyone know how to change the appearance of the top bar in 8.04?
[05:33] <Kohlrak> unsungx: system -> preferanes -> appearance
[05:33] <hamzilla> pajamian, how old are you? last night you said you had to go upstairs to eat dinner
[05:33] <unsungx> idk if im askin te right question then lol
[05:33] <pajamian> jennifer: I would guess that you can get rid of all the GUI stuff with: sudo apt-get remove gdm
[05:33] <pajamian> hamzilla: 35, and I saw your comment on that ;-)
[05:33] <hamzilla> haha
[05:33] <hamzilla> ok
[05:33] <unop> pajamian, that will likely only remove the GDM but leave the desktop intact
[05:33] <Kohlrak> pajamian: nope. gdm is only gksu and the auto start of xserver
[05:34] <pajamian> hamzilla: when you get older you can swap wife for parents in that role ;-)
[05:34] <Kohlrak> to get rid of gui entirely, sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-core
[05:34] <hamzilla> yah im 26 my gf hates it when i geek out infront of the computer - but we just do it in different ways ., she loves myspace ., i love console and mpg123 heh
[05:34] <pajamian> oh well, there's gotta be one or two key packages that everything relies on.
[05:34] <hamzilla> pajamian, i have another problem now , i cant find a font installed by default with ubuntu that will display the ansii graphics in bitchx / epic scripts..
[05:35] <jennifer> so sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-core would get rid of kde4, gnome, etc.?
[05:35] <wangjnmz> hello
[05:35] <pajamian> hamzilla: sorry, I can't help ya much there.  I am a GUI person unless I'm working on servers and I don't run bitchx on my web servers ;-)
[05:35] <Kohlrak> jennifer: it'd get rid of the gui. gnome, kde, and the like are all xserver programs. they'd stay, but the gui goes.
[05:35] <Kohlrak> it'd still run, you just wouldn't see it =p
[05:36] <hamzilla> epic + lice? ;p
[05:36] <neff1205> what would be the reasons for sound not working on a laptop
[05:36] <Kohlrak> neff: bad card, bad drivers, etc
[05:36] <ykphuah> where to I download the src deb package for the network-manager in ubuntu 8.04?
[05:36] <hamzilla> pajamian, are you a sysadmin?
[05:36] <unop> !puregnome > jennifer
[05:36] <Kohlrak> ykphuah: isn't that default?
[05:36] <unop> !purekde > jennifer
[05:37] <pajamian> hamzilla: yeah, well primarily I do web programming, but I have doen some sysadmin as well, just not a lot.
[05:37] <neff1205> it cant be drivers cause i DL' almost all, pretty sure its not the card
[05:37] <ykphuah> Kohlrak: I want the src deb, the default installed is just binary deb right?
[05:37] <jennifer> okay ubottu thank you :D
[05:37] <hamzilla> pajamian, someone told me if i could learn ruby on rails i could get a sysadmin / jr.sys admin job.,., is ruby on rails that important that basic *nix skills and knowledge of it is all required for such a nice job?
[05:37] <Kohlrak> neff: it has to be one or the other, unless it's your audio player.
[05:37] <unop> jennifer, ubottu is only a faithful bot .. he does what other people tell him to do :)
[05:37] <pajamian> !thanks | jennifer
[05:38] <rgie> hi guys can someone help me, I can't boot my system it wil display a grub >>
[05:38] <jennifer> oh lol. it's kinda cute
[05:38] <neff1205> mmmmmmmm
[05:38] <unop> hamzilla, off-topic
[05:38] <Kohlrak> ykphuah: hm... you'll have to find out the name of the applet then search for it, unless there's a source command
[05:38] <vdsy_> !ubuntu
[05:38] <pajamian> hamzilla: I'm old school, do perl mainly.
[05:38] <Deepthought> I replaced nvidia-9700GS with older FX5200; now when I activate restricted driver x-server won´t start; anything I´m overlooking ?
[05:38] <vdsy_> !slackware
[05:39] <pajamian> hamzilla: we should take this conversation to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:39] <neff1205> how would i find out what the problem is/.
[05:39] <ykphuah> Kohlrak: I have the name of the package, its NetworkManager, i want to take a look at the source that people use to generate this particular deb. In rpm based systems usually the rpm will have a corresponding .src.rpm, which contains the upstream source and any patches.
[05:39] <Kohlrak> neff: that's never easy, especailly with hardware issues on ubuntu
[05:39] <BoltClock> when will pidgin 2.5.0 be available in the repo?
[05:40] <neff1205> :'(
[05:40] <RequinB4> How can I get mplayer-plugin to autoplay?
[05:40] <Kohlrak> ykphuah: try searching for it in synaptic
[05:40] <Kohlrak> anyone know the name of the other resolution applet?
[05:40] <ykphuah> Kohlrak: I am guessing I need extra repos in synaptics, the default ones doesn't show me the src deb
[05:41] <neff1205> any ideas?
[05:41] <Kohlrak> ykphuah: perhaps, unless the source is in the deb
[05:41] <Kohlrak> neff: check your audio card on the audio card compatability list, then google "ubuntu" and the name of your card and maybe some one has a fix for it
[05:42] <amanulla> im getting my screen brightness reduced in ubuntu 8 when ever i logged in what to do?
[05:42] <Striker_XF35> Anyone experiencing crashes when playing full screen games try disabling screen saver
[05:42] <Striker_XF35> 2nd crash in 30 hour caused me to do research
[05:42] <neff1205> kk
[05:42] <dfccarrion> amanulla: I have had a similar issue with other operating systems, but not with ubuntu
[05:42] <Striker_XF35> quit
[05:43] <amanulla> what to do?
[05:43] <Scorp_> Hey guys, i'm not able to get a splash screen when i start or shut down ubuntu. What do i do ??
[05:43] <dfccarrion> amanulla: i would imagine that such things are stored in a settings file, that should be easily modified
[05:43] <dfccarrion> amanulla: let me see if i can find anything
[05:43] <peepsalot> what app would you folks recommend for playing DVDs?
[05:43] <peepsalot> totem seems to do a pretty poor job of it
[05:43] <Scorp_> peepsalot: VLC !!
[05:44] <RequinB4> !dvd
[05:44] <amanulla> dfccarrion:have u solved ur problem?
[05:44] <dfccarrion> meanwhile... anyone else got some ideas?
[05:44] <RequinB4> VLC
[05:44] <ykphuah> Scorp_: so what do you get when starting ubuntu? did you get the little penguin at the top left corner?
[05:44] <peepsalot> ok, trying vlc, thanks
[05:44] <Scorp_> ykphuah: Actaully after the bootloader menu, i get continuous text instead of ubuntu screen till the X screen starts...
[05:45] <Kohlrak> anyone remember the name of hte monitor configuration program?
[05:45] <amanulla> do we have vlc player in ubuntu if so how to get it can any one provide me link?
[05:45] <peepsalot> Kohlrak, xrandr?
[05:45] <Scorp_> amanulla: its there in synaptic
[05:45] <peepsalot> amanulla, it's in the repos
[05:45] <dfccarrion> amanulla: look in synaptic
[05:45] <dfccarrion> it should be there
[05:45] <RequinB4> how can i make mplayer auto-play when i visit a webpage
[05:45] <Kohlrak> peepsalot: It's a gui i'm thinking about.
[05:46] <amanulla> where  synaptic?
[05:46] <Scorp_> amanulla: what r u using ?? GNome or KDE ??
[05:46] <BoltClock> amanulla: system > administration > synaptic package manager
[05:46] <dfccarrion> boltclock & amanulla: no it should be in the Add/remove programs synaptic
[05:47] <dfccarrion> which will be easier than synaptic package manager
[05:47] <amanulla> ok im checking in synaptics
[05:47] <BoltClock> dfccarrion: okay
[05:47] <wols> Kohlrak: displayconfig-gtk? also depends on the driver used
[05:47] <BoltClock> amanulla: follow dfccarrion's instruction instead... applications > add/remove
[05:47] <Kootie> is there any deb packages for pidgin 2.5?
[05:47] <melwyn> hi
[05:47] <Scorp_> ykphuah: any ideas ??
[05:47] <Kohlrak> wols: thank god. i was looking for that for a while.  thank you
[05:48] <kindofabuzz> Kootie, on getdeb there is
[05:48] <melwyn> no
[05:48] <amanulla> yaa i have opened synaptic where i can find vlc?
[05:48] <LSD|Ninja> amanulla: search for it
[05:48] <kindofabuzz> search vlc
[05:48] <BoltClock> when will pidgin 2.5.0 be available for me to get through apt?
[05:48] <melwyn> add remove
[05:48] <dfccarrion> amanulla: search for it in the top right
[05:49] <pepe_swash> hello. gnome-display-settings does not change anything in my dualhead layout or resolutions. i'm using radeon driver. There are no error messages, no nothing. Anyone knows why?
[05:49] <melwyn> user left
[05:49] <Scorp_> amanulla: try sudo apt-get install vlc
[05:50] <Scorp_> hey, can anyone help me with a text console instead of a splash loader at startup ?? i dono how to get it back ??
[05:50] <amanulla> ok thank u all i find vlc
[05:50] <AeronTS> i'm looking for a nice tutorial on setting up multiple versions of firefox with links to the desktop, not sure what to google for
[05:51] <maliciousmiked> hello
[05:52] <MrTKusa> hello
[05:52] <maliciousmiked> < 1st time linux user
[05:52] <dfccarrion> maliciousmiked: SWEET
[05:52] <maliciousmiked> yes, yes it is
[05:52] <dfccarrion> welcome!
[05:53] <amanulla> in xp i use messengers like :gtalk,yahoo msn,skype,rediffbol,.........can i find any one here?
[05:53] <MrTKusa> me too
[05:53] <maliciousmiked> i said bye bye to windows
[05:53] <dfccarrion> amanulla: pidgin
[05:53] <MrTKusa> pigin
[05:53] <dpick> how do i send the output of a grep command to a variable in bash script?
[05:54] <c0rrupt0r> welcome to linux
[05:54] <MrTKusa> I said bye bye to Microjerks!!!
[05:54] <MrTKusa> ubuntu is so easy
[05:54] <maliciousmiked> yeah its the greatness
[05:54] <c0rrupt0r> :)
[05:54] <dfccarrion> it's just intimidating to people at first cause it's foreign
[05:54] <maliciousmiked> i love the fact i can turn up all the pretty window vis's
[05:55] <maliciousmiked> and not slow down my stuff, vista (ack)....
[05:55] <MrTKusa> I do not have a lot of money, I would rather it go to a better place than Microsoft
[05:55] <dfccarrion> AMEN
[05:55] <maliciousmiked> and the cool floppy windows are sooo trippy
[05:55] <maliciousmiked> i was like....wowee.....neat....like somthin i would see in a movie
[05:55] <maliciousmiked> yes, its a little daunting at first
[05:56] <maliciousmiked> but im gettin used to it
[05:56] <BoltClock> most importantly
[05:56] <BoltClock> we have this channel
[05:56] <MrTKusa> I have my desktop set up as a cube
[05:56] <maliciousmiked> if i ever start missing windows, i got virtualbox
[05:57] <maliciousmiked> yeah that cube thingy is cool, how in the world do you do that?
[05:57] <MrTKusa> I can always find my answers to problems and when I do
[05:57] <BoltClock> maliciousmiked: compiz-fusion is your answers
[05:57] <BoltClock> answer*
[05:57] <pepe_swash> anyone know a working utility to setup dualhead when using radeon drivers?
[05:57] <MrTKusa> I usually find I just needed to understand the lingo of linux
[05:57] <neff1205> how do you upgrade BIOS?
[05:57] <maliciousmiked> ok compiz fusion i read that awhile back
[05:58] <enos> In what directory is java compiler install by default?
[05:58] <enos> installed**
[05:58] <MrTKusa> www.psychocats.net
[05:58] <yaris123456789> how do i run files with .sh ?
[05:58] <maliciousmiked> i was proud of myself when i got 64bit firefox working correctly with 32bit flash player
[05:59] <hanasakiRemote> in pidgin what does "signed on:" mean when I mouseover a nickname
[05:59] <MrTKusa> that is a great info website
[05:59] <pepe_swash> enos: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/
[05:59] <pepe_swash> enos: if you use java6
[06:00] <green_and_high_o> yaris123456789: chmod +x whatever.sh && ./whatever.sh
[06:00] <maliciousmiked> hanasaki: it means the user is online
[06:00] <enos> pepe_swash: thanks
[06:00] <pepe_swash> enos: yw
[06:00] <yaris123456789> green_and_high_o: can i just do sh myfile.sh ?
[06:00] <hanasakiRemote> thanks mal
[06:01] <maliciousmiked> np
[06:01] <gaintsura> hey all, I've got a toshiba A215 laptop with a chicony built in webcam.. I've tried using gspca video drivers and the uvc drivers, neither of them work, they claim to have loaded but when I open up digiKam and try to autodetect the camera it says its not there
[06:01] <green_and_high_o> yaris123456789: you have to make sure that file is exucatible and then you can do /bin/sh whatever.sh that's whyc chmod +x
[06:01] <yaris123456789> ah
[06:02] <gaintsura> I've been on 4 or more forums and they all haven't been responded to in over a year, has anyone gotten one of these cameras to function (at least mostly)
[06:02] <Inuyasha> allow??????
[06:02] <c0rrupt0r> has anyone tried out CNR on ubuntu yet and how stable is it if so?
[06:02] <MrTKusa> well, I just wanted to sign on and anounce my joy with ubuntu
[06:02] <MrTKusa> goodnight all
[06:02] <maliciousmiked> night mrtkusa
[06:02] <green_and_high_o> Anyone seen ubuntusatanic I think the title is catchy
[06:02] <Omoikane> how do I stop terminal from doing something?
[06:03] <gaintsura> Omoikane ctrl+Z
[06:03] <dfccarrion> ctrl + c
[06:03] <MrTKusa> Ctrl q
[06:03] <MrTKusa> q
[06:03] <Ahadiel> Omoikane, Ctrl + C usually, Ctrl+z puts it in the background
[06:03] <green_and_high_o> ctrl+z is suspend ctlr+c is kill job
[06:03] <MrTKusa> alt c
[06:03] <carandraug> MrTKusa: good night. By the way, don't want to be rude, but take a look at #ubuntu-offtopic too
[06:03] <dfccarrion> haha depends on the context omoikane
[06:03] <gaintsura> Ahadiel: then why does it say stopped: <program name>
[06:03] <BoltClock> MrTKusa: good night
[06:03] <Drezard> can anyone help with setting up a postfix server?
[06:03] <green_and_high_o> after doing ^z try bg and see what happens
[06:04] <green_and_high_o> sorry I use sendmail and love it
[06:04] <hanasakiRemote> pidgin says a yahoo and a gtalk ID  have been signed on for several days... I know I logged off the id this morning.  how can this be?
[06:05] <murlidhar> i did something wrong and i now don't get the option of "extract here" in the right click menu of pcmanfm .
[06:05] <gaintsura> green_and_high_o: hm, I didn't know that
[06:05] <murlidhar> what might be the problem ?
[06:05] <gaintsura> thanks
[06:05] <threethirty> has anyone here been able to play any quake3 based FPS games with the nouveau drivers?
[06:05] <Deepthought> I replaced nvidia-9700GS with older FX5200; now when I activate restricted driver x-server won´t start; anything I´m overlooking ?
[06:05] <mn8086> Hi, i have simon the sorcerer 1 in windows cd. Am i able to play it with scummvm? somehow im always getting "Segmentation fault" when trying..
[06:05] <maliciousmiked> ok...i did come in to ask a question....my refresh rate is crap (yes, ive searched the forums) ive tried editing zorg with hor and vert....didnt work...ive used displayconfig-gtk..no luck...tried modeline generator for nvidia...nothing....anyone have any other suggestoins?
[06:06] <threethirty> Deepthought: have you tried removing the driver and reinstalling it?
[06:06] <hwilde_> maliciousmiked, what is your fps
[06:06] <Deepthought> maliciousmiked, did you set the monitortype in displconf ?
[06:07] <murlidhar> i did something wrong and i now don't get the option of "extract here" in the right click menu of pcmanfm .
[06:07] <hanasakiRemote> ﻿maliciousmiked are you here?
[06:07] <bullgard4> What does 'ata1' mean in the dmesg message: "[   15.318615] ata1: PATA max UDMA/100 cmd 0x1f0 ctl 0x3f6 bmdma 0x1860 irq 14" in contrast to 'ata2'?
[06:07] <gaintsura> has anyone gotten a chicony camera to install and function?
[06:07] <maliciousmiked> yes, it found the driver for it deepthought, but after a reboot of x....it reverts back to unknown monitor type
[06:07] <hwilde_> maliciousmiked, what is your fps
[06:07] <maliciousmiked> fps? uhh
[06:07] <maliciousmiked> dunno what you mean
[06:07] <gaintsura> bullgard4: that is your ATA controller sending information
[06:07] <wols> bullgard4: first and escond pata controller
[06:07] <Deepthought> threethirty, it did get deactivated and switched to nonrestr.  I reactivated it after reinstalling; is it different when removed first ?
[06:08] <murlidhar> frames per second
[06:08] <murlidhar> i did something wrong and i now don't get the option of "extract here" in the right click menu of pcmanfm .
[06:08] <hanasakiRemote>  ﻿maliciousmiked wish I could help you on the xorg... did you see my other question on pidgin?  "signed on" says 2 days but I logged off the ID thismorning and just logged it back on now. how can this be?
[06:08] <maliciousmiked> uhh my refresh rate is stuck at 50hz
[06:08] <gaintsura> maliciousmiked: at what res?
[06:08] <maliciousmiked> 1280x1024
[06:08] <maliciousmiked> i want 85hz goshdoggit
[06:08] <gaintsura> maliciousmiked: cut it down some and then try upping the refresh rate
[06:09] <hwilde_> maliciousmiked, you complete about refresh rate but you don't know what is your fps?
[06:09] <Deepthought> maliciousmiked, probably to high for over 50; tried 1024x768 or 88x600 ?
[06:09] <murlidhar> i did something wrong and i now don't get the option of "extract here" in the right click menu of pcmanfm .
[06:09] <threethirty> Deepthought: try reinstalling the driver, it may be some how linked to your old card
[06:09] <wols> !repeat | murlidhar
[06:09] <maliciousmiked> my monitor supports that rate, according to their website
[06:09] <gaintsura> maliciousmiked: perhaps your drivers are misconfigured
[06:10] <maliciousmiked> its a restricted driver or whatever, auto installed when i installed ubuntu
[06:10] <gaintsura> what card
[06:10] <maliciousmiked> i have built in video card from nvidia
[06:10] <l3d> I was wondering how to not take a update and stop it from trying to pick it up as a needed update again
[06:10] <Deepthought> threethirty I did, but without removing; can I remove from adept or do I need a apt-formula ?
[06:10] <gaintsura> maliciousmiked: hold on 1 sec
[06:10] <Deepthought> hwilde, fps and refresh rate is totally different thing ;-P
[06:11] <hwilde_> Deepthought, how is he measuring what he is complaining about?
[06:11] <murlidhar> is there any command that can tell me all the applications that have been installed ?
[06:11] <wols> Deepthought: on a desktop, fps is meaningless
[06:11] <hwilde_> murlidhar, look in synaptic
[06:11] <l3d> I was wondering how to not take a update and stop it from trying to pick it up as a needed update again
[06:11] <maliciousmiked> deepthought, misscommunication with the server? i dunno why your online stats would stick like that
[06:11] <threethirty> Deepthought: unfortunately im not sure... sorry
[06:12] <bullgard4> wols: lspi reports that there is only one IDE interface in my computer: "Intel 82801 DBM (ICH4-M) IDE Controller" and not two.
[06:12] <gaintsura> maliciousmiked: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#NVidia_Driver
[06:12] <Deepthought> hwilde, like I said; it´s a different thing; fps is number of refresh of game-screen or video, refresh of monitor uis frequency of screen 9flicker or not)
[06:12] <wols> bullgard4: wrong. this chip has TWO IDE interfaces just like you have TWO 40 pin connectors for it
[06:12] <maliciousmiked> i will read gaintsura, thank you
[06:12] <Deepthought> wols, exactly, that´s what I´m trying to convey
[06:13] <kcman1> anyone in here help me with my graphics card?
[06:13] <gaintsura> maliciousmiked: np, its pretty straight forward
[06:13] <Deepthought> maliciousmiked, what do you mean about online stats sticking ?
[06:13] <gaintsura> kcman1: http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Hardy#Installation_of_ATI_and_nVidia_Graphics_drivers
[06:13] <wols> as for refresh rates: check your xorg logs
[06:15] <carandraug> !anyone | kcman1
[06:16] <l3d> I was wondering how to not take a update and stop it from trying to pick it up as a needed update again
[06:16] <Deepthought> maliciousmiked, I had those probs too, have monitor that can do, but doesn´t show up; try nvidia-settings with the restricted driver and set there; they have better defs of the monitors than the gnome-stuff in my experience; it worked for me
[06:17] <maliciousmiked> i used sudo displayconfig-gtk
[06:17] <maliciousmiked> it showed up my monitor type
[06:17] <maliciousmiked> i changed the refresh rate to 85hz, restarted....back at 50
[06:17] <murlidhar> i did something wrong . and i don't get the "extract here " option in pcmanfm.  . i got this trouble eversince i change the openwith application . what is the default open-with application ?
[06:17] <bullgard4> wols: This is not true. It must be some more abstract thing because I do not have two 40-pin connectors in my T42 IBM laptop computer.
[06:17] <maliciousmiked> i have the restricted driver installed already
[06:18] <cyphase> does anyone know if it's possible to set the window class when running VLC? or, if not, some program that can run another program (e.g. VLC) and set it's window class?
[06:18] <ledenby> 13d;i hate those updates 2....they're brutal on dialup.....maybe unnecessary anyway because Ubuntu 8.04is in stealth mode according to GRC.com
[06:18] <Deepthought> maliciousmiked, try with nvidia-settings, really works better; sudo it from console and save settings to xorgconf.   ...still don´t understand what you mean by online stats ?
[06:18] <MIKED> hi
[06:19] <MIKED> I am having trouble installing a theme and was hoping someone could help
[06:19] <Deepthought> maliciousmiked, you might have to install nv-setngs first (is in adept)
[06:19] <maliciousmiked> ok deepthought
[06:19] <dfccarrion> miked: ok what's your problem?
[06:19] <Deepthought> maliciousmiked, online stats ?
[06:20] <murlidhar> i did something wrong . and i don't get the "extract here " option in pcmanfm.  . i got this trouble eversince i change the openwith application . what is the default open-with application ?
[06:21] <dfgas> how do i get desktop icons to default to right side
[06:22] <murlidhar> thanks guys
[06:22] <dfgas> how do i get my desktop icons to default to right side in gnome (sorry for not having that)
[06:23] <l3d> I was wondering how to not take a update and stop it from trying to pick it up as a needed update again
[06:23] <kcman1> gaintsura how do i tell what kind of graphics card i have?
[06:23] <gaintsura> ...
[06:23] <hwilde_> kcman1, lspci
[06:23] <gaintsura> thats usually something you should know imho
[06:24] <pajamian> !pin | l3d
[06:24] <hwilde_> gaintsura, you shouldnt have to know
[06:24] <Omoikane> What is a good graphics program to use with a tablet?
[06:24] <Shmulik> I am trying to install ubuntu 8.04 on an intel core duo processor. The hard drive has been partitioned in to two. After the install CD loads and I select to run the CD live the kernel fails to lode and prints this message "the kernel requires an x86-64 CPU but only detected an i686 CPU - Unable to boot"
[06:25] <MTecknology> Is there anybody in here that would want to read a acouple articles i wrote up that try to fix high battery consumption and make irssi awsome?
[06:25] <pajamian> Shmulik: you need the i386 version of ubuntu, not the x86-64
[06:26] <amanulla> hii can i find skype here
[06:26] <newman0708> how can i find files created before chen.txt?
[06:26] <LSD|Ninja> amanulla: Skype have .deb's on their site but it's also in the Medibuntu repo
[06:26] <newman0708> how can i find files created before chen.txt?
[06:27] <pajamian> !skype | amanulla
[06:27] <LSD|Ninja> newman0708: asking every 30 seconds isn't the way to get help
[06:27] <amanulla> im using ubuntu 8 how to get skype
[06:27] <Shmulik> pajamian - but this is a macbook pro on an intell chipset. Why would i use the i386?
[06:27] <Omoikane> What is a good graphics program to use with a tablet?
[06:27] <hamzilla> i386 == intel chipset
[06:27] <dsmith_> what would the procedure be to reinstalleing windows on a dual boot? 1. reinstall windows 2. run super grub to fix it so that grub is restored on the mbr?
[06:27] <pajamian> Shmulik: you said it's a core 2 duo?  that should be 64 bit, but maybe yours isn't
[06:27] <LSD|Ninja> Shmulik: amd64 brings with it a bunch of problems that unless you absolutely need it, aren't worth moving away from i386 over
[06:28] <LSD|Ninja> pajamian: All Core 2 Duos are 64 bit
[06:28] <kcman1> hwilde yeah isnt there a grep that i should apent with?
[06:28] <amanulla> how to know my computer is a 34 or 64 bit?
[06:28] <LSD|Ninja> amanulla: what CPU do you have?
[06:28] <Shmulik> pajamian: this is a intel core duo
[06:28] <pajamian> LSD|Ninja: apparently Shmulik's computer won't boot the x86-64 live cd, though.
[06:28] <LSD|Ninja> Shmulik: Ah, Core Duos aren't 64 bit
[06:28] <Omoikane> Is gimp the only graphics program for ubuntu?
[06:28] <amanulla> mine is intel core 2 duo
[06:29] <amanulla> 1.5 GHZ processor
[06:29] <Omoikane> I need something that can use the pressure sensitivity of a drawing tablet.
[06:29] <LSD|Ninja> amanulla: Then you definitely have EM64T support
[06:30] <Lil_Yoshi_Powder> ubunt n00b here, need some help if anyone has a few minutes
[06:30] <Shmulik> I need the x86 architecture installer.
[06:30] <Shmulik> thanks everyone.
[06:30] <pajamian> Omoikane: gimp is not the only graphics program for ubuntu but it's generally considered to be the heavy hitter.
[06:30] <LSD|Ninja> Even if you had Core 2, it's generally best to stick with i386 unless you have specific reasons to go to amd64
[06:31] <pajamian> LSD|Ninja: I tend to agree.
[06:31] <Klick__> Hey all, Im having a lot of problems with firefox in intrepid, whats the next best browser?
[06:32] <pajamian> !intrepid | Klick__
[06:32] <Omoikane> pajamian is there software for ubuntu that can use the pressure sensitive pen? I have it so it can draw but I don't think gimp can use the pressure aspect of it.
[06:32] <pajamian> Omoikane: I don't know, sorry.
[06:32] <Klick__> pajamian, what?  I dont understand you, what browser were you suggesting as an alternative to firefox?
[06:32] <hamzilla> pajamian, you're a ninja everyone directs there questions towards you.
[06:33] <hitman1985> where can i find themes that work without problems for ubuntu 8.04
[06:33] <hamzilla> Klick__,  opera is really good.
[06:33] <Klick__> thanks hamzilla
[06:33] <hamzilla> konqueror comes with ubuntu i think
[06:33] <pajamian> Klick__: you need to get intrepid support from #ubuntu+1
[06:34] <favro> any lxde users here? - bugger won't accept any changes...
[06:34] <amal029> links is the ultimate no unnecessary rubbish javascript
[06:36] <garou> Hi. Is there a list of usable GFX cards somewhere?
[06:36] <amanulla> i m using ubuntu 8 i want to down load skype if i downloads from here Download Debian package from http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-linux-ubuntu can i install it ..does it works in my system as i use it in xp?
[06:36] <hamzilla> compatable graphics cards w/ubuntu?
[06:37] <hamzilla> what is skype?
[06:37] <amanulla> skype is a chat software
[06:37] <geek_> amanulla: in general yeah, it should
[06:37] <sluimers> skype is a chatprogram
[06:37] <pajamian> Omoikane: is it a wacom drawing pad?
[06:37] <hamzilla> like pidgin ?
[06:37] <rodya_> skype is voip software
[06:38] <fsloke> there?
[06:38] <hitman1985> skype is both
[06:38] <Omoikane> pajamian yes
[06:38] <amanulla> i dont know pidgin its like yahoomsn,gtalk in xp
[06:38] <Kohlrak-Server> anyone ever heard of a problem where you end up with a white screen upon logging in?
[06:38] <Omoikane> pajamian why?
[06:38] <fsloke> I install an application using ./configure
[06:38] <fsloke> make
[06:38] <fsloke> make install
[06:39] <fsloke> may I know how can I uninstall the application?
[06:39] <fsloke> In short reverse everything back to normal
[06:39] <hamzilla> rm -rf /applications-directory
[06:39] <pajamian> Omoikane: from what I can gather GIMP does appear to have support for that, includign pressure sensitivity, but I'm not sure.  YOu will want the wacom-tools package.
[06:39] <sluimers> I want to set my resolution to 1600x1050, it's not an option in the screen resolution menu, can anyone help me with that?
[06:40] <favro> sluimers: in a terminal type - xrandr  - and see if that is an option
[06:41] <sluimers> favro, nope, not an option
[06:41] <l3d> I was wondering how to not take a update and stop it from trying to pick it up as a needed update again
[06:41] <hamzilla> does ubuntu support usb digital cameras? i have a nikon coolpix 2000
[06:42] <hitman1985> hamzilla, my canon ixus works
[06:42] <hitman1985> hamzilla, as long as u just want to get pics from there to ubuntu it should just pick it up fine
[06:42] <sluimers> favro, I do know it's possible, but I've switched to different graphics drivers and back... it just seems I did not get totally back yet
[06:43] <favro> sluimers: you will have to edit xorg.conf and add it as an option - gksu gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:43] <hamzilla> hitman1985, what app do you use?
[06:43] <pajamian> Omoikane: look under file / preferences / input devices in the gimp to see what options it has for the drawing pad.
[06:43] <sluimers> favro, you mean in section monitor?
[06:44] <Madpilot> hamzilla, the default for cameras in Ubuntu is F-Spot; it's pretty slick, and the automatic camera detection is great - just plug the critter in and turn it on
[06:44] <kcman1> gaintsura you gave me that page for ati and nvidia but there are no options for intel corporation mobile chip sets
[06:44] <hamzilla> nice -
[06:44] <hitman1985> hamzilla, i use the one what came with it, but its really anoying to be honest, because it imports with img 099.jpg and so i think you cant really tell it to give some names like abc.jpg and so on
[06:44] <hitman1985> hamzilla, but it imports it nicely and in one folder with date and so on so i dont really care
[06:44] <hamzilla> sheesh the battery is dead in my camera allready
[06:44] <favro> sluimers: in section screen
[06:45] <hamzilla> i hate that - 4 double a's and they die after like 10 minutes
[06:45] <pajamian> hitman1985: it will just import with the names given to the files by your camera.  You can certainly rename the files after import.
[06:45] <legend2440> l3d: open synaptic select package you want to lock  choose Package>Lock version
[06:45] <pajamian> hamzilla: I've heard that some cameras are very picky about the batteries they use.
[06:46] <dfgas> Linux PD2800Dual 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP Fri Jul 11 23:41:49 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[06:46] <dfgas> why doesn't it update at all
[06:46] <hamzilla> yah i have 2 rechargeable ones and 2 dollar store ones dollar store ones are terrible in anything moreless a digital camera
[06:47] <hitman1985> pajamian, jeah i guess so, but its kinda pain in the back to do so because i havent even found a way to do batches and i got way to much pics to worry about that if its not built in so therefore i was usin the cam just temp on linux and will use it on wind... untill i find a proper application
[06:47] <dfgas> it doesn't even tell me there is an update for kernel
[06:48] <wbmj> hitman1985: you may want to try pyrenamer
[06:48] <hitman1985> wbmj, is it importer or just renamer ?
[06:48] <Dante_Rugil> does anyone know any publishers in south mississippi?
[06:49] <wbmj> hitman1985: a batch renamer
[06:49] <pajamian> hitman1985: you can rename in batches in the terminal easily enough.
[06:49] <hitman1985> wbmj, i dont want to work with terminal :)
[06:49] <hitman1985> whops wrong way
[06:49] <Ontolog> Does Ubuntu have an Image Magick package that doesn't depend on X?
[06:49] <hitman1985> pajamian, i dont like terminal so i dont  think its convienient to work with it
[06:50] <hitman1985> im tryin to get all the daily stuff workin to get more ppl to get onto ubuntu
[06:50] <pajamian> hitman1985: check out wbmj's suggestion
[06:50] <pajamian> !info pyrenamer | hitman1985
[06:50] <hitman1985> not to have them run around all day to find something
[06:50] <Dante_Rugil> are you using UE?
[06:51] <sparrow9> hi, does hardy work with pulseaudio?
[06:51] <wbmj> sparrow9: yes
[06:51] <hwilde_> !info imagemagick | Ontolog
[06:51] <hitman1985> pajamian, i ll try it sometime
[06:52] <pajamian> !pulse | sparrow9
[06:52] <hitman1985> thank ya and hf gl
[06:52] <sparrow9> thx. has anyone used pulseaudio with hardy without problems?
[06:52] <Ontolog> hwilde_: uhhh can it be installed independent of X?
[06:53] <pajamian> sparrow9: it's had a few problems but it is the default in hardy.  What problems are you having?
[06:53] <favro> any lxde users here? - bugger won't accept any changes I make...
[06:53] <sparrow9> thx. was thinking of trying it
[06:54] <pajamian> sparrow9: you're probably already using it.
[06:54] <sparrow9> does pusleaudio also have development libs for ubuntu?
[06:55] <wbmj> sparrow9: all the software in ubuntu has a dev lib counterpart
[06:55] <sparrow9> thx. what is it called? libpulse?
[06:56] <morenita> hi
[06:56] <morenita> switch keyboard layout
[06:56] <pajamian> !info libpulse-dev | sparrow9
[06:56] <wbmj> sparrow9: run the search function in Synaptic....
[06:56] <morenita> doesnt work properly with kde
[06:56] <morenita> any ideas?
[06:56] <cyphase> Does anyone know if it's possible to set the window class when running VLC? If not, is there some program that can run another program (e.g. VLC) and set it's window class?
[06:57] <sparrow9> thx
[06:57] <murlidhar> k atleast can anyone tell me how to extract a tar.gz.7z.gz using the terminal?
[06:57] <pajamian> murlidhar: huh!?!?!
[06:58] <hwilde_> Ontolog, umm you want to do image manipulation without the X?  it will probalby need libs
[06:58] <sluimers> favro, thanks favro!
[06:58] <murlidhar> pajamian that is a file extension that i have downloaded
[06:58] <wbmj> murlidhar: you might want to read man tar.... that should answer your question
[06:58] <pajamian> murlidhar: ok, one min, that's crazy
[06:59] <Omoikane> pajamian it says 3 under pad and pressure
[07:00] <pajamian> Omoikane: well that seems to indicate it supports it, I can't help any more than that.
[07:00] <pajamian> murlidhar: you need to install the p7zip package first
[07:00] <pajamian> murlidhar: sudo apt-get install p7zip
[07:00] <rubydiamond> what is equivalent of fiddler in ubuntu
[07:00] <murlidhar> pajamian already installed p7zip-full package
[07:02] <pajamian> murlidhar: then I think something along the lines of ... gunzip -c filename.tar.gz.7z.gz | p7zip -d | gunzip | tar -x
[07:02] <amanulla> while i log in in ubuntu 8 .4 my screen  brightness is being reduced so every time i have to manullay increase it is there any alternative?
[07:02] <murlidhar> pajamian thanks
[07:02] <Swan_> How would you guys rate Gentoo as a distribution?
[07:02] <Hejji> if you know what you're doing, sure
[07:02] <Ahadiel> Swan_, #ubuntu is for support, perhaps ask it in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:03] <pajamian> !poll | Swan_
[07:03] <favro> Swan_: it's alot of work...
[07:03] <rubydiamond> what is equivalent of fiddler in ubuntu
[07:03] <Swan_> Okay kool
[07:03] <pajamian> rubydiamond: what's fiddler?
[07:04] <hamzilla> its like a violin
[07:04] <hamzilla> i think
[07:04] <wbmj> amanulla: are you on a laptop
[07:04] <rubydiamond> pajamian, its a http watch tool for IE in windows
[07:04] <amanulla> yes
[07:04] <dfgas> can i find out when ubuntu
[07:05] <dfgas> ?
[07:05] <hamzilla> i love when people ask questions about linux in broken english
[07:05] <wbmj> amanulla: you find the change in power management
[07:05] <miyako> I was wondering if someone could help me resolve an issue that I'm having with ssh.  I installed the openssh server on my desktop, but for some reason the connection hangs when I try to ssh to the machine from my laptop.  I can ssh from my desktop back to itself.
[07:05] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[07:05] <dfgas> can i find out when ubuntu
[07:06] <Oli``> dfgas: what do you mean?!
[07:06] <rlc> don't know
[07:06] <dfgas> i want to know exactly when i installed ubuntu on here, lol
[07:06] <kr00l> What's a good ubuntu book to purchase to learn about linux commands? I don't need a general book about GIMP and GUI stuff
[07:06] <hateball> miyako: Check that you can access port 22 from both systems
[07:06] <MIKED> Hello hello
[07:06] <Omoikane> Sigh! Linux hath forsaken me!
[07:07] <pajamian> !hi MIKED
[07:07] <MIKED> having some problems with a new theme installation
[07:07] <benjamin> join
[07:07] <pajamian> !hi | MIKED
[07:07] <MIKED> yao
[07:07] <miyako> hateball: I can, and in wireshark I can see the ssh session starting to negotiate on my desktop before it hangs
[07:07] <favro> kr00l: you already have one - in a terminal type   man "command" - for info on the command
[07:07] <MIKED> can anyone help me with some theme stuff ?
[07:07] <pajamian> !ask | MIKED
[07:08] <MIKED> kewl
[07:08] <MIKED> well I am trying to get awn manager to work
[07:08] <MIKED> but it aint
[07:08] <wbmj> MIKED:do you have compiz enabled
[07:08] <MIKED> wont change my bottom bar to the theme I have
[07:08] <MIKED> yes
[07:09] <MIKED> the theme requires compiz, emerald and awn
[07:10] <MIKED> yo
[07:10] <budmang> Just installed, I have dual video cards. but only one an work at a time(which ever I set as primary via bios. Any direction would help
[07:10] <MIKED> the theme requires compiz, emerald and awn
[07:10] <amanulla> i use xp there we find only .exe files for running any application im newly installed ubuntu 8 here can u suggest some standard extention for application softwares?
[07:10] <hwilde_> amanulla, what do you want to do
[07:11] <MIKED> well I am trying to get awn manager to work
[07:11] <MIKED> but it aint\
[07:11] <hateball> amanulla: Executables arent determined by file extension in Linux
[07:11] <amanulla> i want to get all applications like skype,vlc,chat softwares which i use in xp can i?
[07:12] <MIKED> yea u can
[07:12] <MIKED> go to aplications
[07:12] <MIKED> add/remove
[07:12] <hateball> !synaptic | amanulla
[07:12] <MIKED> and search for the ones u want
[07:12] <amanulla> ok
[07:12] <MIKED> can someone help me to get awn manager working
[07:12] <favro> !enter | MIKED
[07:12] <MIKED> plz
[07:12] <budmang> Just installed, I have dual video cards. but only one an work at a time(which ever I set as primary via bios. Any direction would help
[07:13] <MIKED> can someone help me to get awn manager working
[07:13] <favro> budmang: trying for dual monitors?
[07:14] <MIKED> can someone help me to get awn manager working
[07:14] <amanulla> im using xp+ubuntu 7 dual boot recently when i log in ubuntu7 it was showing INTERNAL HALL error what does it mean?
[07:14] <budmang> favro: yes
[07:15] <passbe|work> does anyone here currently run ubuntu on a black macbook (lastest gen)
[07:15] <karex> HI, is there the way to get packages list like listed in synaptic (include uninstalled yet)?
[07:15] <garou> I'll be off to the hardware shop in a bit to get a new GFX card. What model can you recommend? Last time I got an nVidia 9500GT and... Well, no driver support. :(
[07:15] <miyako> hmm, seems to have been a wireless network issue
[07:16] <hiptobecubic> I need to make a particular domain so that it is accessed using only wifi.  I believe   route add -host <hostname> dev ath0   will accomplish this. does that sound right?
[07:16] <MIKED> can someone help me to get awn manager working
[07:16] <tritium> !repeat | MIKED
[07:16] <favro> !xinerama | budmang
[07:17] <favro> !dualhead | budmang
[07:17] <tritium> !xrandr
[07:17] <amanulla> im using xp+windows dula boot inxp i hv internet connection but in ubuntu im unable to do so can any one suggest?
[07:17] <Flannel> garou: That card should be supported by the proprietary drivers
[07:17] <Kohlrak-Server> trouble installing fglrx, when i log in, screen goes all white
[07:18] <tritium> budmang: see above information regarding xrandr for the latest/preferred method of running dual screens
[07:18] <garou> Flannel: I put it in, System->Administration->Hardware Drivers, it didn't show up. I googled and... Just a sec...
[07:18] <MIKED> hey guys, I am trying to install an new theme and part of it requires awn manager.. problem is I cant get it to work
[07:19] <garou> ...and this one came up (" [all variants] Nvidia 9500GT a no-go"): http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=887954
[07:20] <hiptobecubic> garou, sous leeeee veeeennnnntttttttt
[07:20] <garou> hiptobecubic: Gesundheit?
[07:20] <Lil_Yoshi_Powder> anyone have a few minutes, i need some help
[07:20]  * hiptobecubic coughs.
[07:21] <hiptobecubic> !ask | Lil_Yoshi_Powder
[07:21] <Flannel> garou: It might be because its too new, that happens sometimes (takes a release to catch up to the hardware in the official package channels), have you tried using envyng?
[07:21] <mouseclone_> anyone had trouble with iPods syncing?  I'm getting time outs or just lockups on amarok, gtkpod and others
[07:21] <garou> Flannel: No, neither read up on it...
[07:21] <DOT3CH> anyone know how to get the fishtank cube?
[07:21] <Flannel> !envyng | garou
[07:22] <hiptobecubic> does the ipod work normally otherwise? i had that issue but it turned out to be sketchy harddrive mouseclone_
[07:22] <ZanShi> so  many people...
[07:22] <MIKED> hey guys, I am trying to install an new theme and part of it requires awn manager.. problem is I cant get it to work
[07:22] <amanulla> can we run multiple operating systems at same time like two seperate windows?
[07:22] <Lil_Yoshi_Powder> ok sorry: im having trouble installing ubuntu.  I installed and rebooted, it asks if i want to load ubuntu or windows.  I choose ubuntu, the image and orange scroller load then it sends me to a black screen with (initramfs) prompt
[07:23] <garou> Okay, I'll try. In case that that fails, what GFX card models could/would you suggest?
[07:23] <mouseclone_> hiptobecubic: it works fine.  Doesn't have any issues with iTunes on windows
[07:23] <karex> amanulla: no, but you can use virtualization like VMWare
[07:23] <Flannel> amanulla: with virtualization, yes.
[07:23] <amanulla> how can we do so i want to do it can u suggest?
[07:24] <Kohlrak-Server> i got an interesting question for the community doc writers: Why is it that people are suggested to go to the hardware drivers menu when it mysteriously doesn't work in hardy?
[07:24] <geek_> amanulla: you can use VMware or some other virtualisation software. I tend to use a second box and nx or x-forwarding
[07:24] <geek_> instead
[07:24] <MIKED> hey guys, I am trying to setup a new theme but having a hard itme getting emerald and awn manager to work
[07:24] <sparrow9> how can you find irc channels with certain topics?
[07:24] <Flannel> Kohlrak-Server: If it doesn't work for you, file a bug.  It works for a number of people.
[07:24] <Flannel> sparrow9: /msg alis list #*term*
[07:24] <karex> amanulla: visit vmware site, download, and read the instruction or install directly
[07:25] <amanulla> suggest me one best software to do so and pls provide me link to get software
[07:25] <Kohlrak-Server> Flannel: it'd be nice to see if it worked or not. It's just not there. It shows up only on rare occasions.
[07:25] <favro> MIKED: you need to find a readme in the theme or from where you got the theme :)
[07:25] <MIKED> yea
[07:25] <MIKED> I am a readme
[07:25] <MIKED> following it
[07:25] <MIKED> but it isnt working for some reason
[07:26] <garou> You're a readme? Cool, I'm a funfile myself. ^^
[07:26] <karex> amanulla: www.vmware.com
[07:26] <MIKED> lol
[07:26] <prince_jammys> i'm a tarball.
[07:26] <MIKED> i meant that I have been following the readme file
[07:27] <karex> HI, is there the way to get packages list like listed in synaptic (include uninstalled yet)?
[07:27] <amanulla> karex :im using xp+ubuntu8 ,im familiar with xp ,im new to ubuntu i wish to use vmvare in xp can i?
[07:27] <prince_jammys> ok, fine, i was lying about the tarball
[07:27] <Dethray> how do I get to the print cue? :)
[07:27] <MIKED> :/
[07:27] <favro> !paste | MIKED can you paste the readme?
[07:28] <MIKED> OK this is the last part of the readme that I have done but has not done anything: *Avant-window-navigator
[07:28] <MIKED> You must have install the avant-window-navigator-bzr package
[07:28] <MIKED> Go in "System" -> "Preferences" -> "AWN-manager"-> "theme". Add the theme
[07:28] <MIKED> 	*Emerald theme
[07:28] <MIKED> Go in "System" -> "Preferences" -> "Emerald themes manager"
[07:28] <MIKED> Clic on "import", and choose the way to the emeraldzgeg.emerald file
[07:28] <FloodBot2> MIKED: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:28] <MIKED>     * configuration Compiz
[07:29] <garou> bbl, trying to install the 9500GT again.
[07:29] <karex> amanulla: i think yes, and you can use (easyvmx.com) to create the virtual machine after installing vmware
[07:29] <Dethray> Is there a default print cue manager in ubuntu? :P
[07:29] <karex> amanulla: just download vmware for xp
[07:30] <amanulla> karex:do u use xp?
[07:30] <karex> i use ubuntu and vista (dual-boot)
[07:31] <karex> amanulla: but i'm not using vmware now, i just dual-booted them
[07:31] <amanulla> karex :do u have any mails ,gmail,yahoomail,
[07:31] <hiptobecubic> use /msg don't put you email here
[07:31] <hiptobecubic> your*
[07:33] <amanulla> karex:i use xp+ubuntu7+ubuntu8(installed using wiki from xp)
[07:33] <karex> amanulla: yes i've email
[07:33] <MooCows> I seem to have no sound in Pidgin
[07:33] <karex> amanulla: so?
[07:33] <MooCows> yet , sound is told to play all the time
[07:33] <amanulla> i need ur help to install vmware
[07:33] <MooCows> should I download specific drivers for my sound? (realtek)
[07:33] <amanulla> from xp
[07:34] <wols> MooCows: no
[07:34] <MIKED> hey could someone help me out with a theme problem, cant get awn manager and emerald working
[07:34] <wols> MooCows: ac97 or snd-hda intel depending on age
[07:34] <favro> MIKED: you have got to follow the topic rules...
[07:34] <amanulla> so i need any one of ur mail to get clarified while installing in xp can u?
[07:34] <MIKED> the topic rules ?
[07:34] <MooCows> wols: that is what I should install ?
[07:34] <favro> !topic | MIKED
[07:34] <karex> amanulla: i've not installed it in xp yet. but i think you should install it like other application
[07:35] <MooCows> wols: I just got the computer about 4 months ago.
[07:35] <amanulla> karex:can u give me any of ur mails for clarifications
[07:35] <MIKED> ok
[07:35] <favro> we'll have another go
[07:35] <favro> !paste | MIKED can you paste the readme?
[07:36] <karex> i will. did you see the private channel request from me?
[07:36] <MooCows> wols: I am unclear about your instructions
[07:36] <kcman1> ok can someone help me figure out why i have rendering but i can not support 3d apps in wine, i am even having issues running them from synaptic and add/remove...
[07:36] <amanulla> karex:are u saying to me?
[07:36] <wols> MooCows: lspci
[07:36] <cyphase> Does anyone know if it's possible to set the window class when running VLC? If not, is there some program that can run another program (e.g. VLC) and set it's window class?
[07:36] <MooCows> wols: ?
[07:36] <wols> MooCows: run that
[07:37] <wols> cyphase: what is a "window class"? this is not windows gdi here cyphase...
[07:37] <MooCows> command not found
[07:37] <amanulla> karex:im i n a private channel
[07:37] <wols> kcman1: more info, what driver, what videocard, what does glxinfo say?
[07:37] <wols> MooCows: all ubuntu has lspci
[07:38] <MooCows> are you saying limaspcia
[07:38] <cyphase> wols: now windows the OS. window as in a window on your screen
[07:38] <MooCows> or indigospci
[07:38] <MIKED> posted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/40355/
[07:38] <cyphase> not*
[07:38] <MooCows> (i) (s)
[07:38] <wols> MooCows: no. lspci. comes with every ubuntu install and CD
[07:38] <geek_> cyphase: what do you mean as window class?
[07:38] <MooCows> er, I'll just copy and paste
[07:38] <cyphase> geek_: it's a value all windows have
[07:38] <wols> cyphase: windows gdi has a windowclass. X does not
[07:39] <haunse> is there anyone willing to help me with "ndiswapper"
[07:39] <kcman1> wols i will shot you a pastebin read out here in just one second
[07:39] <MooCows> wols: Ok, what am I looking for?
[07:39] <orgthingy> omg
[07:39] <orgthingy> Error while opening sound device. Please check the output device settings and the project sample rate.
[07:39] <cyphase> wols: something in linux has a window class. i'm pretty sure it's X
[07:39] <orgthingy> what should i do :'( ?
[07:39] <wols> cyphase: then show us the docs for this "window class"
[07:39] <cyphase> wols: that won't help me in this case
[07:40] <favro> MIKED: do you have compizconfig-settings-manager installed?
[07:40] <MooCows> 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02)
[07:40] <MooCows> that
[07:40] <MooCows> ?
[07:40] <MIKED> yes I do
[07:40] <favro> !pm | MIKED
[07:40] <wols> cyphase: but it helps US to have a clue what the heck you talk about
[07:41] <wols> cause right now, you make very little sense
[07:41] <garou> Hi again.
[07:41] <MIKED> compiz is installed
[07:41] <wols> MooCows: snd-hda-intel is the driver you will need
[07:41] <favro> MIKED: and where does it fail - at which part of the readme?
[07:41] <prince_jammys> cyphase: xprop tells you window class information, if that's what you want.
[07:41] <garou> I just put the nVidia 9500GT back into the computer, then installed and started envy-gtk.
[07:41] <cyphase> wols: just because you don't know what a window class is doesn't mean nobody else does
[07:41] <MooCows> wols: will i be able to install that with apt-get ?
[07:41] <kcman1> wols i have the intel corporation mobile 940gm, and when i am running 3d apps like wow as long as i dont move to much i am fine but if i get a move on the app errors out, even some add/remove games will not run without flickering gets annoying glxinfo here: http://pastebin.com/d47f2fb62
[07:41] <garou> This was its reaction: Exception: EnvyNG ERROR: Nvidia card not found
[07:41] <wols> cyphase: no one else here does. not on linux.
[07:41] <prince_jammys> i do
[07:42] <prince_jammys> cyphase: run xprop and click on any window
[07:42] <MIKED> well I have awn manager installed, but when I select the theme and try to apply it, nothing happens (as in I still have the regular bottom bar)
[07:42] <cyphase> wols: prince_jammys just answered something about window class. not what i was looking for, but obviously he knows what it is
[07:42] <garou> Also, shouldn't GFX cards in the PCI-E bus appear in lspci?
[07:42] <MooCows> wols: seems I am unable to install with apt-get
[07:43] <wols> garou: they do. sudo update-pciids; lspci -nn
[07:43] <cyphase> prince_jammys: i know about xprop. what i want is to make VLC have a specific window class
[07:43] <haunse> I am new to ubuntu and have been trying to fully commit to linux ( i have wanted to for a long time) im still confused on how to install software... is there anyone here that would spend a few minutes to help me understand how the process of extracting/installing applications is done (a private message is preffered as that the man room conversations are distracing)
[07:43] <karex> HI, how to set lcd-brightness in hardy?
[07:43] <wols> MooCows: cause it's not needed. ubuntu comes with drivers for it by default. drivers are in the kernel usually, like this one is
[07:43] <Dethray> How do I clear out the print cue?
[07:43] <MooCows> wols: Ok, any idea where to find it?
[07:43] <garou> wols: Still nothing.
[07:44] <wols> haunse: you install via synaptic. it's a program that shows all available ubuntu software and installs it and removes it too
[07:44] <prince_jammys> cyphase: try #xorg
[07:44] <favro> MIKED: have you done the three steps - added the theme to awn + emerald + ccm
[07:44] <wols> MooCows: you simply have it. modprobe snd-hda-intel for example
[07:44] <wols> garou: pastebin the lspci -nn output
[07:44] <CeWe_iMoeT> jakarta
[07:45] <MIKED> yes I have
[07:45] <MooCows> wols: I need to tell the sound mixer to use it?
[07:45] <MIKED> all themes have been added, but it seems like theyr are not being applied
[07:45] <haunse> i know of the add/remove at the bottome of the appplications tabe....but i was under the assumption that installing requires the terminal
[07:45] <garou> wols: http://rafb.net/p/NML78I60.html
[07:45] <karex> CeWe_iMoeT: maksud loe?
[07:45] <wols> MooCows: if it's the only card it is used by default
[07:46] <wols> garou: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:2772] (rev 02)
[07:46] <favro> MIKED: have you logged out/in to apply the themes?
[07:46] <wols> you have an intel video card, integrated. not a 9500gt
[07:46] <MooCows> wols: then why would there be no sound in applications, IE: pidgin, etc
[07:46] <garou> wols: I just put a 9500GT into that computer.
[07:46] <prince_jammys> cyphase: that's probably a good bet, though it might be slow...
[07:46] <wols> MooCows: I wouldn't know since you didn't give enough info
[07:46] <MIKED> im sorry im not sure whta you mean by that
[07:46] <kcman1> wols did you get my last message?
[07:47] <MooCows> wols: what more information can I gather?
[07:47] <MIKED> I've restarted my computer if thats what your asking
[07:47] <wols> kcman1: what ubuntu version?
[07:47] <cyphase> prince_jammys: thanks
[07:47] <wols> MooCows: logfiles check for example
[07:47] <favro> MIKED: try logging out or rebooting and see the result
[07:47] <garou> Heh, I have an evil suspicion... Could be that the cards box is missing a needed power connector.
[07:48] <MIKED> I just rebooted, with no results
[07:48] <wols> cyphase: I'd say you have to look into wxwindows (the vlc gui library) to change window class and recompile vlc
[07:48] <favro> MIKED: k - no luck that way - "You must have install the avant-window-navigator-bzr package" - it is installed?
[07:48] <wols> garou: 9500gt shouldn't need additional power connectors. and if it does, then your PSU needs to have that connector
[07:49] <favro> MIKED: that's prob the theme right?
[07:49] <garou> *bbiab, putting my hands into the guts of my box again*
[07:49] <cyphase> prince_jammys: a lot of gnome apps have a --class option on the command line, but not VLC
[07:49] <MIKED> yes avant-window-navigator-bzr is installed
[07:49] <MIKED> there is a theme for awn and emerald
[07:49] <wols> garou: does your bios put out PCI IDs of connected hardware when it boots?
[07:49] <wols> garou: if it does, check if the nvidia PCI ID is shown
[07:49] <MIKED> but neither seem to work
[07:50] <kcman1> wols hardy i think my grub loader still says 8.04 or whatever
[07:50] <MooCows> wols: My sound also isn't as high as in windows.
[07:50] <favro> MIKED: might be time to ask the good folk in #compiz-fusion then :)
[07:50] <kcman1> wols just checked i am 8.04 hardy
[07:50] <Quiescent> i have a problem, i followed some great tutorial that helped me install flash 10 rc on ubuntu x64 and now the bookmarks and history in firefox don't work, the address bar doesn't update when you load pages, and the refresh, back, and forward buttons don't work. i've done a "complete removal" of everything firefox related and reinstalled and still have the same issue
[07:50] <MIKED> alright let me see what I can get from there, thanks
[07:50] <favro> k
[07:50] <wols> kcman1: your DRI version sounds very old: 2006...
[07:51] <wols> Quiescent: recreate your firefox profile in your ~
[07:51] <MooCows> wols: VLC will play VOBs fine, but the sound is set to max, and the sound isn't blaring like it was in windows
[07:51] <prince_jammys> Quiescent: have you checked whether the ownership of the .mozilla directory and files has changed?
[07:51] <kcman1> wols my master what would you have me do now?
[07:51] <wols> cyphase: vlc is not gnome related btw
[07:51] <haunse> i know of the add/remove at the bottome of the appplications tabe....but i was under the assumption that installing requires the terminal
[07:52] <wols> kcman1: check if there isn't a newer version of driver
[07:52] <hiptobecubic> I need to make a particular domain so that it is accessed using only wifi.  I believe   route add -host <hostname> dev ath0   will accomplish this. does that sound right?
[07:52] <wols> kcman1: e.g. I dunno if in 2006 your chipset already existed, so it could be a driver that is too old. is this a ubuntu upgrade or new install?
[07:52] <Quiescent> i haven't checked the ownership of files, i'm going to try to find my profile and try that first
[07:52] <haunse>  Can anyone help me to understand how to install software on ubuntu (specifically ndiswrapper) i have no idea how to install any tools/software execpt the add/remove tool but i cant figure out how to get ndiswrapper to show up in the add/remove list
[07:53] <wols> hiptobecubic: put it into your /etc/network/interfaces via post-up script
[07:53] <hiptobecubic> wols what is post-up script?
[07:53] <Dethray> having touble printing from my wireless laptop to my print server.  Is there any way to clear out the printer cue?
[07:53] <wols> haunse: install ndisgtk. and that is there
[07:53] <wols> hiptobecubic: a feature of /etc/network/interfaces. man interfaces
[07:53] <favro> !info ndiswrapper
[07:53] <hiptobecubic> wols, ok thanks
[07:54] <wols> Dethray: ask your printserver manual
[07:54] <haunse> thats just it i dont know how to install anything
[07:54] <wols> haunse: start add/remove programs and look for it
[07:54] <wols> haunse: or read help.ubuntu.com
[07:54] <Dethray> well it is shared from my xp  machine, wols
[07:55] <ookjmk> hi
[07:55] <wols> Dethray: why would we care?
[07:55] <Quiescent> how do i backup my bookmarks in firefox 3 if i can't get to them from within the app?
[07:55] <prince_jammys> !apt | haunse : this should be of interest
[07:55] <Dethray> What's your problem?
[07:55] <wols> Dethray: I don't have one. you do have one but it's not ubuntu related. neither printserver nor windows are
[07:56] <Dethray> ok is there a way from within ubuntu to clear out my print cue?
[07:56] <Dethray> I can't seem to find any info on it
[07:56] <ookjmk> hey does anyone know how to install madwifi cuz ive used many tutorials nothing is helping
[07:56] <wols> since the queue is not on ubuntu but on the printserver, why would there?
[07:56] <wols> !madwifi | ookjmk
[07:57] <Amerikan> What is a good DVD burner that is compatible with .avi
[07:57] <wols> ookjmk: hardy uses a dummy package and uses ath5k IIRC
[07:57] <wols> Amerikan: #hardware
[07:57] <Dethray> Why would it not be in ubuntu?
[07:57] <prince_jammys> Quiescent: what does 'ls -ld ~/.mozilla' say?
[07:57] <wols> Dethray: cause your queue is not in ubuntu but the printserver?
[07:58] <Dethray> Hmm
[07:58] <DIFH-iceroot> for dual-view (clone mode) is it possible to use different resolutions for the two screens? intern screen 800x480, extern screen 1024x768
[07:58] <Quiescent> prince_jammys: drwx------ 5 travis travis 4096 2008-08-15 15:11 /home/travis/.mozilla
[07:58] <Quiescent> i'm in .mozilla/firefox/
[07:59] <Quiescent> and then my profile folder
[07:59] <kcman1> wols i bought this machine in dec of 07 with vista on it and i put ubuntu on it to replace the fakey windows attempt at an os, but i have had the same graphics issues with ubuntu that i did with windows so i am not sure what to do about the driver
[07:59] <Dethray> forget it, I'll ask in #cups
[07:59] <wols> DIFH-iceroot: then one is probabkly using a virtual res
[07:59] <Amerikan> wols: Why would that be hardware?
[07:59] <wols> kcman1: that's intel graphics for you
[07:59] <wols> Amerikan: cause it is
[07:59] <Quiescent> but the bookmarks.html and the folder bookmarkbackups don't actually have my bookmarks in them
[07:59] <prince_jammys> Quiescent: ok, that's good. browse into that dir and verify that all files are owned by travis. also, back up that directory while you're at it. (copy it to ~/mozillabackup)
[07:59] <DIFH-iceroot> wols: you mean i have to scroll one screen?
[08:00] <haunse> is there any way that someone could just type the command to install ndiswrapper so i can copy/paste directly to the terminal
[08:00] <wols> Amerikan: we don't tell people what hardware to buy. not a ubuntu support problem. especially not a question like syours
[08:00] <wols> DIFH-iceroot: yes
[08:00] <prince_jammys> Quiescent: oh, i recall something about this. i think i had something like this when i updated firefox.
[08:00] <wols> Quiescent: since ffox3 bookmarks are kept in a sqlite DB
[08:00] <favro> any lxde users here? - bugger won't accept any changes I make...
[08:00] <Amerikan> wols: I didn't ask anything pertaining to hardware unless you think a writable dvd is hardware.
[08:00] <wols> Amerikan: what else is it than hardware?
[08:01] <Quiescent> how do i change ownership of everything, can i use dpkg-statoverride?
[08:01] <Amerikan> wols: Software.
[08:01] <DIFH-iceroot> Quiescent: i think you dont want to do this
[08:01] <Quiescent> nevermind, i see that won't work
[08:01] <favro> Amerikan: k3b seems to be the best imho
[08:01] <perfector> recommend lightweight alternate apps pls.
[08:02] <guestguestnew> how do i use chown on a folder?
[08:02] <sleepingcreep> Salve a tutti.
[08:02] <favro> perfector: fluxbox ftw!
[08:02] <guestguestnew> i need to change the owner of this folder /usr/bin/ruby1.8
[08:02] <prince_jammys> guestguestnew: why?
[08:02] <Amerikan> favro Can I get k3b from synaptics
[08:03] <favro> Amerikan: yep :)
[08:03] <hateball> !chown | guestguestnew
[08:03] <perfector> yes using favro any other desktop apps?
[08:03] <prince_jammys> guestguestnew: owner should be root:root
[08:03] <Quiescent> so i need to do 'chown travis -R' ?
[08:04] <wols> Amerikan: a dvd burner is hardware, dvd burn app is software
[08:04] <Quiescent> or
[08:04] <DOT3CH> anyone here know where to put an .abr gimp brush file
[08:04] <Amerikan> favro: Thanks a ton. I'm new to linux but am a pretty good windows nerd :D
[08:04] <guestguestnew> ok, but i need to change it for a while
[08:04] <guestguestnew> pls
[08:04] <Quiescent> 'chown -R travis .mozilla'?
[08:04] <guestguestnew> give me the command
[08:04] <Amerikan> wols: Sorry I forgot one little word
[08:04] <guestguestnew> /usr/bin/ruby1.8
[08:04] <DIFH-iceroot> guestguestnew: : chown owner:group file/directory but why you would change it
[08:04] <favro> perfector: I use thunar-comes with xfce4-panel, mousepad, epiphany, conky
[08:04] <guestguestnew> thanks
[08:04] <jgiorgi> ﻿i am planning on install ubuntu server on my desktop for testing purposes, i understand that for security no GUI is installed by default, i agree that is a great idea for security on most servers but is there a way (easy way) to install a gui and it be all set up like it was default so i dont have to get another computer
[08:04] <Dethray> gnome-cups-manager sux
[08:04] <wols> Amerikan: if you use gnome, you could use brasero
[08:05] <Quiescent> that did it, thank you
[08:05] <perfector> favro, im using pcmanfm conky flock
[08:05] <Quiescent> i just took ownership of the .mozilla folder
[08:05] <perfector> favro mousepad or leafpad?
[08:05] <haunse> ndiswrapper
[08:05] <hateball> jgiorgi: You can just install the same packages you need on a vanilla Ubuntu install. If it's for testing anyway
[08:05] <haunse> info! ndiswrapper
[08:05] <amal029> Best cups interface localhost:631
[08:05] <favro> perfector: mousepad - it has a couple of extras I use :)
[08:05] <perfector> favro, ok
[08:06] <Amerikan> wols: I'll try that if k3b doesn't work out, thank you for the help :)
[08:06] <jgiorgi> hateball: i wanted to keep it separate from my desktop install and make it easy, thought that would be the best way, couldnt i just enter sudo apt-get install gnome
[08:06] <prince_jammys> Quiescent: are you able to access the bookmarks?
[08:06] <perfector> wols, hey
[08:06] <favro> perfector: I start from the server install and use 41mb mem to paint the desktop - was 28 in dapper
[08:06] <hateball> jgiorgi: Yeah you could
[08:06] <Quiescent> yeah, everything works now, i just gave myself ownership of the entire .mozilla folder
[08:07] <prince_jammys> Quiescent: this probably happened if you ran firefox using 'sudo'
[08:07] <jgiorgi> hateball: i love it when i guess the right command, thanks
[08:07] <perfector> favro, can i pm u?
[08:07] <favro> perfector: sure
[08:07] <alex`> anybody can give me the e-book Linus Torvalds "Just4Fun" for 2-3 weeks for read? ;-)
[08:08] <hiptobecubic> wols http://pastebin.com/f52875dfa    like this?
[08:09] <arooni-mobile> how do i get this: "If you’re using MySQL, you’ll need MySQLdb, version 1.2.1p2 or higher. You will also want to read the database-specific notes for the MySQL backend."
[08:11] <wols> hiptobecubic: no. you need to write a script and call that
[08:11] <wols> arooni-mobile: what language?
[08:11] <arooni-mobile> wols, python
[08:11] <arooni-mobile> what about this one:  "If you’re using PostgreSQL, you’ll need the psycopg package. Django supports both version 1 and 2. (When you configure Django’s database layer, specify either postgresql [for version 1] or postgresql_psycopg2 [for version 2].)"
[08:11] <wols> arooni-mobile: apt-cache search python | grep mysql
[08:12] <wols> arooni-mobile: same thing
[08:13] <hiptobecubic> wols, where are user scripts usually stored?
[08:13] <prince_jammys> hiptobecubic: ~/bin
[08:13] <corey> I am getting an error in the totem movie player - I am not able to play dvds
[08:14] <corey> ** (totem:6253): WARNING **: Failed to create dbus proxy for org.gnome.SettingsDaemon: Could not get owner of name 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon': no such name
[08:14] <wols> hiptobecubic: /etc/network/if-up.d/
[08:14] <wols> prince_jammys: o
[08:14] <wols> *no
[08:14] <corey> anyone can help me?
[08:14] <prince_jammys> wols: didn't know the context
[08:14] <miyako> is there a way to set a different language for a user from the default language of the system in ubuntu?
[08:14] <wols> not these scripts
[08:15] <wols> miyako: set a different LC_ALL env variable for example
[08:15] <DOT3CH> whats the move file command again
[08:15] <corey> please?
[08:15] <hiptobecubic> wols, and in there is just a script with the route command?
[08:15] <miyako> wols: in .bash_profile ?
[08:15] <prince_jammys> DOT3CH: mv source destination
[08:15] <DOT3CH> ty
[08:16] <wols> miyako: for example, yes
[08:16] <wols> hiptobecubic: yes
[08:16] <hiptobecubic> does it need sudo?
[08:16] <hiptobecubic> wols
[08:16] <wols> no, network config is always executed in root context. wouldn't work otherwise
[08:16] <hiptobecubic> wols, it shouldn't right?
[08:17] <prince_jammys> miyako: look into LANG also
[08:17] <corey> anyone able to help me?
[08:17] <hiptobecubic> wols, ok. and lastly, in the interfaces file then it will be     iface ath0 post-up <script>
[08:17] <hiptobecubic> ?
[08:17] <wols> hiptobecubic: no. read the manpage more carefully. it has examples too
[08:18] <miyako> I did "export LC_ALL=ja_JP.utf8" in my .bash_profile and it worked when I run date from the command line, but gnome menus are still in english
[08:18] <Mahrellon> Morning ya'll
[08:18] <pedro> hey everyone
[08:18] <prince_jammys> miyako: put it in .xsessionrc
[08:18] <miyako> prince_jammys: okay, I'll try that now
[08:19] <corey> I need help please
[08:19] <prince_jammys> miyako: or .xsession (i think ubuntu uses .xsessionrc) - neither file probably exists in your system, so create it.
[08:20] <miyako> prince_jammys: I did in in .xsessionrc and that worked, thank!
[08:20] <miyako> gnome even helpfully renamed the standard directories (e.g. home, Documents, etc.)
[08:20] <prince_jammys> miyako: LANG might suffice
[08:20] <hiptobecubic> wols, do you have to include inet dhcp? i left it out because i wasn't sure.    http://pastebin.com/fcfa8d28
[08:20] <miyako> I should write an app to automate that
[08:21] <wols> hiptobecubic: you forgot auto ath0
[08:21] <miyako> I've been looking for an app to test my python skills, an app to automate setting user default languages might be a good app to write
[08:21] <miyako> thanks for the help all
[08:22] <CartoonCat> hellos
[08:22] <pedro> anyone know something about RealPlayer for linux?
[08:24] <hiptobecubic> wols, i guess i'm a bit confused about what this interfaces file REALLY does. before i added that bit at the end, all it had was loopback stuff in it. how does ath0 and eth0 function then? why don't you need auto ath0 and auto eth0 for the interfaces to work?
[08:24] <hiptobecubic> wols, what brings them 'up' ?
[08:24] <dfccarrion> pedro: what about it?
[08:24] <wols> hiptobecubic: /etc/init.d/networking
[08:25] <wols> hiptobecubic: it is your network confing
[08:25] <WebGuest> hello
[08:25] <wols> *config
[08:25] <WebGuest> i got a new 64bit laptop. should i install a 64bit version of ubuntu or a 32bit?
[08:25] <wols> hiptobecubic: ubuntu uses gnome-network-manager as well.
[08:25] <koshari> pedro boes anyone still use real media files?
[08:25] <wols> WebGuest: how much RAM?
[08:25] <WebGuest> wols: 4gb
[08:25] <pedro> RMVB, i do
[08:26] <wols> WebGuest: then it'S a tossup if you really want to, I'd still use i386 tho
[08:26] <pedro> its pratically the only video format i use
[08:26] <dfccarrion> pedro: well what's your question about real player?
[08:26] <wols> 64bit is rarely worth it, especially not on a desktop machine
[08:26] <prince_jammys> pedro: mplayer and vlc probably play them
[08:26] <WebGuest> could you give me some reasons? i've been using 32bit on my pc that is only 32bit and have heard that people still use that  on 64bit systems
[08:26] <koshari> vlc wont play real media,
[08:27] <dfccarrion> webguest: the software just hasn't caught up with 64bit processing hardware
[08:27] <koshari> its about the only format VLC wont play
[08:27] <wols> WebGuest: java plugin, flash plugin, acrobat plugin
[08:27] <kibibyte> hi
[08:27] <pedro> its that when i watch RMVB, everything is blue. some guy told me to go at totem and set hue to minimum and it worked, but now every time i wanna play a RMVB file, i have to open totem also
[08:27] <WebGuest> so i still should go with 32 bit
[08:27] <wols> WebGuest: non exists for 64bit, only many kludges
[08:27] <wols> WebGuest: there is no speed advantage either unless for certain software
[08:27] <haunse> get ndiswrapper
[08:27] <WebGuest> wols: so its practically the same unless for certain software designed for 64bit architecture
[08:28] <WebGuest> ?
[08:28] <koshari> pedro where do you get real media files these days?
[08:28] <wols> WebGuest: yes
[08:28] <WebGuest> then i will stick to 32bit
[08:28] <WebGuest> another question
[08:28] <dfccarrion> webguest: linux's os is very good in 64bit but the software isn't ready for it
[08:28] <pedro> i download rmvb's files at www.islifecorp.com.br , but it's not a english website, i warn you
[08:28] <WebGuest> i noticed that my laptop has a very limited battery life under vista 64bit
[08:28] <WebGuest> will i be able to get better life from ubuntu?
[08:29] <Kartagis> is there a way not to make vi suck in ubuntu?
[08:29] <hiptobecubic> wols, i think this would be easier using /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/    i'll try it there. thanks for your help :)
[08:29] <dfccarrion> webguest: possibly
[08:29] <wols> WebGuest: usually yes, but no one will give you guarantees
[08:29] <wols> Kartagis: use vim
[08:29] <WebGuest> yes i understand that
[08:29] <Kartagis> to make vi not suck rather
[08:29] <prince_jammys> Kartagis: how does it suck?
[08:29] <dfccarrion> webguest: ubuntu uses alot less resources, which usually translates into better battery life
[08:29] <dfccarrion> but no guarantees
[08:29] <WebGuest> dfccarrion & wolfs: will i still be able to install 64bit software on a 32bit ubuntu?
[08:29] <CartoonCat> erm, odd issue. One of my external hdd's with 2 partitions is mounting with partition1 owned by my user, the other as by root. How do I change this so that my user has full access to the 2nd partition?
[08:29] <wols> WebGuest: no
[08:30] <dfccarrion> webguest: nope
[08:30] <WebGuest> dfccarrion, thats what i thoguh, just looking at the cpu usage/ram on my desktop
[08:30] <pedro> anyway, would you know a possible solution?
[08:30] <wols> CartoonCat: set uid, gid and umask correctly
[08:30] <bbq^> Anyone know of a decent organiser ? to insert tasks and schedule reminders etc... ?
[08:30] <dfccarrion> bbq: some people like evolution
[08:31] <dfccarrion> bbq: but I'm not a fan
[08:31] <bbq^> Evolution ? I used to use the mail client and was not a fan
[08:31] <bbq^> yea
[08:31] <hiptobecubic> is there a way to identify ethernet networks (wired) ? something like essid with wireless? i need to be able to recognize what network i'm plugged into
[08:31] <prince_jammys> bbq^: evolution (gnome) kontact, basket (kde)
[08:31] <DOT3CH> how do i extract a .rar
[08:31] <Kartagis> prince_jammys, even though i hit insert, i don't know whether it's insert mode
[08:31] <bbq^> ok prince_jammys
[08:31] <WebGuest> dfccarrion & wolfs: what do you forecast will be the moment 64bit will be fully used?
[08:31] <dfccarrion> bbq: you may try some of mozilla's stuff
[08:31] <CartoonCat> wols, because its a usb drive it will come and go alot (so I can change out to my other drives too, its a usb/ide case with a 5.25 egalnest for 2.5 drives). Where is the correct 'fstab' to edit as fstab isnt it (its only got my primary hd/dvd in it)
[08:31] <WebGuest> like will i be needing to reinstall ubuntu in a short while?
[08:31] <wols> DOT3CH: install unrar
[08:31] <dfccarrion> i forget what it's called... sunbrid?
[08:31] <bbq^> yea dfccarrion i will google some mozilla stuff as there tools work rather well
[08:31] <bbq^> ok
[08:31] <prince_jammys> DOT3CH: install 'unrar' and open the file with 'archive manager' (aka fileroller)
[08:32] <CartoonCat> wols, also, why would it have mounted my first partition correctly and not the 2nd?
[08:32] <wols> CartoonCat: dunno how the automounter works
[08:32] <prince_jammys> Kartagis: did you install vim?
[08:32] <bbq^> thnks
[08:32] <Kartagis> prince_jammys, when I move around using arrow keys, i get B D etc.
[08:32] <dfccarrion> webguest: no
[08:32] <CartoonCat> wols, ahh
[08:32] <DDR> Hello, all. How do I install the libdvdcss2 stuff so I can watch my DVDs?
[08:32] <Kartagis> prince_jammys, yes. i will use that as wols suggested
[08:32] <Kartagis> tested and approved
[08:32] <DDR> I tried some of the instructions I cound, they did not work miserably.
[08:32] <Kartagis> thanks wols
[08:32] <WebGuest> ok, i have my questions answered now, thanks for the support
[08:32] <wols> !dvd | DDR
[08:32] <dfccarrion> webguest: i forsee a little while before 64bit becomes a standard, and even then it will take awhile eclipse 32bit
[08:32] <Falun> is there any reason I wouldn't be able to link code that uses c-networking functions (like inet_ntoa)?  I've had weird issuses caused by not having dev packages before but can't find what I might be mising.
[08:33] <dfccarrion> bbq: np
[08:33] <koshari> pedro given there proprietry files i would imagine you would have to install the real player
[08:33] <wols> !errors | Falun
[08:33] <WebGuest> good night everybody, tahnks for the great advice
[08:33] <DDR> Thanks, let's see if this works. :)
[08:33] <dfccarrion> webguest: not a problem take it easy
[08:33] <Falun> ubottu -- it's a simple linking error: "undecided reference to inte_ntoa"
[08:33] <Kohlrak-Server> is there any way possible to install the fglrx driver on hardy without reformatting and doing it on gutsy where things work?
[08:33] <pedro> back sorry
[08:34] <koshari> pedro given there proprietry files i would imagine you would have to install the real player
[08:34] <favro> Kohlrak-Server: I haven't found one...
[08:35] <pedro> i kinda have realplayer installed
[08:35] <pedro> that was what i was saying
[08:35] <Kohlrak-Server> favro, if we're lucky, maybe the next release of ubuntu (october something according to wikipedia) will actually be stable
[08:35] <pedro> when i play RMVB on realplayer, its blue, when i open totem it turns fine, ON the realplayer, then i close totem and watch it
[08:36] <favro> Kohlrak-Server: I have not been enjoying hardy at all
[08:36] <pedro> i dont know wth does totem have to do with anything, but hey, it works
[08:36] <prince_jammys> pedro: http://www.simplehelp.net/2007/07/27/how-to-play-rmvb-files-in-ubuntu/
[08:37] <Kohlrak-Server> favro, i was as i could view flash and java fine with a 64bit browser, but the driver issues have been getting worse and worse. It's too much work just to keep your system running now.
[08:37] <pedro> tried that already
[08:37] <pedro> didnt worked
[08:37] <CartoonCat> well that was horibly easy, sudo  chown breadstick:breadstick disk-1
[08:38] <favro> Kohlrak-Server: just before I went back to dapper I was thinking I was spending tooo much time trying to get hardy working
[08:38] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[08:38] <prince_jammys> pedro: there are several other tutorials also if you google 'ubuntu playing rmbv files', if noone here knows.
[08:39] <LSD|Ninja> Is realmedia in the codec packs in the medibuntu repo?
[08:39] <EvaLuaTe> does ubuntu have support for wireless connections? i just ran the ubuntu livecd and couldn't connect to the internet
[08:39] <pedro> but im able to play rmvb files fine, but i get all that trouble of opening two video players and stuff
[08:39] <EvaLuaTe> through wireless that is
[08:39] <Kohlrak-Server> favro: i might just build my own kernel after all this mess. It's rediculous. I've been having more hardware issues on ubuntu than software issues on windows... That's sayin' soemthing.
[08:39] <LSD|Ninja> EvaLuaTe: It depends what wifi chip you have as to how easy it is to get working
[08:39] <pedro> what i was thinking would be if someone knew a way to fix realplayer or totem or something so i wouldn't have to do all that
[08:40] <DrRealHouse> Hi, for those wanting to screencast your desktop as a virtual webcam, it is possible with recordMyDesktop,ffmpeg,flashcam and mjpegtools_yuv_to_v4l.  See http://blog.patrickballeux.com/2008/08/ubuntu-et-une-webcam-virtuelle.html (French) for links and scripts
[08:40] <LSD|Ninja> EvaLuaTe: If it's not supported out of the box then my guess is you probably have a broadcom. What does lspci | grep Ethernet spit back out?
[08:40] <favro> Kohlrak-Server: I believe it is the new x that is the issue
[08:40] <DrRealHouse> It is working with flash site : See http://blog.patrickballeux.com/2008/08/ubuntu-et-une-webcam-virtuelle.html at the bottom, you can see my desktop
[08:41] <prince_jammys> DrRealHouse: spam.
[08:41] <Kohlrak-Server> favro: new X? Why would you want to update a system that works?
[08:41] <EvaLuaTe> LSD|Ninja i have an ASUS X51RL-AP207C, and i can't boot into ubuntu now
[08:41] <garou> Hello again...
[08:41] <DrRealHouse> no, really usefull for a lot of poeple.
[08:41] <DrRealHouse> *people
[08:41] <prince_jammys> DrRealHouse: this isn't a place for you to advertise your blog.
[08:42] <favro> Kohlrak-Server: afaik they are trying to have it configure itself at every boot instead of using xorg.conf
[08:42] <EvaLuaTe> LSD|Ninja: also, i get a warning from ubuntu when i start it, that there are drivers that are not supported by ubuntu, atheros or something like that
[08:42] <bullgard4> What is meant by 'ata port' in a laptop computer?
[08:43] <wols> bullgard4: you've already been answered before. it'S a PATA controller
[08:43] <Kohlrak-Server> favro: that's stupid. The thing could never configure itself correctly in the first place. Why the heck would anyone want to not have a config file to overwrite it with? Isn't that one of the glories of linux, to modify things however you want?
[08:43] <DrRealHouse> prince_jammys: Sorry, I don't want to "advertise my blog", I want to share what I just discovered and is now possible by using existing tool.
[08:43] <pedro> i guess noone can answer my question. how about the fact that sometimes some websites render incorrectly
[08:43] <wols> Kohlrak-Server: xorg.conf is still honored. but by default it auto configs
[08:43] <LSD|Ninja> EvaLuaTe: In that case you should just be able to clike the network manager icon in the menu bar and connect to wireless
[08:43] <pedro> i dont know if its linux, firefox or something
[08:44] <pedro> but on windows they're fine, and i use firefox on windows too
[08:44] <wols> DrRealHouse: you are spamming. so stop it and please don't do it in the future. or your stay here might be cut short
[08:45] <favro> Kohlrak-Server: my sentiment exactly - best its' autoconfig could give me was 640x480
[08:45] <fsloke> Enter want to ask
[08:45] <Kohlrak-Server> wols: it's still rediculous... I'd sooner put time and money into making it more capable of auto configing correctly.
[08:45] <arecibo> how do  schedule a program to run everyday in ubuntu server?
[08:45] <garou> arecibo: cron?
[08:45] <arecibo> thanks
[08:45] <Kohlrak-Server> favro: the best it could do for me was a resolution not even supported by my card. I can't even easily describe what happens
[08:45] <favro> Khisanth: it'll happen in time...
[08:45] <DrRealHouse> wols: then sorry, that was not my intention.
[08:46] <morbyte> hi. i have a fingerprint sensor on my notebook which i will not use. is there a way to disable it completely? atm its just causing wakeups too often (>1/sec) - is there a way to shut down that usb port? (its within the notebook so i cant pull the plug)?
[08:46] <favro> Kohlrak-Server: hardy made me glad I back up things like xorg.conf
[08:46] <Kohlrak-Server> now, i got a white screen every time i try to install the proprietary ati driver, and i can't see what else i could possibly install (installing the free driver doesn't seem to have instructions. seems to depend on the auto config things which is the problem in the first place)
[08:47] <Mahrellon> morbyte: Have you checked the laptop's Bios settings if there is an option to disable it?
[08:47] <Kohlrak-Server> favro: that gave me an idea... maybe i have an old xorg.conf file... But i doubt i'm that lucky
[08:47] <morbyte> Mahrellon: the bios has no options whatsoever
[08:47] <Khisanth> favro: what will?
[08:47] <favro> Kohlrak-Server: did you add fglrx to /etc/modules?
[08:47] <morbyte> Kohlrak-Server: disable your compiz... compiz is known to make whitescreens
[08:47] <favro> Khisanth: sorry - wrong nick :)
[08:47] <fsloke> there?
[08:47] <fsloke> want to ask
[08:48] <Mahrellon> morbyte: Then there's no easy way of disabling it. I'm not sure (and I'm sort of new to linux myself here) if it's possible to remove it from the hardware list in Ubuntu leaving it out of the startup.
[08:48] <fsloke> I install a application using source
[08:48] <Mahrellon> If that makes any sense lol
[08:48] <fsloke> make
[08:48] <fsloke> make install
[08:48] <wols> Kohlrak-Server: what card?
[08:48] <Kohlrak-Server> morbyte: wouldn't it have been disabled upon uninstalling the fglrx (trying to find a faster solution, found out that i coudln't even install it)?
[08:48] <morbyte> Kohlrak-Server: youre able to log in by gdm arent you?
[08:48] <fsloke> If I don't want the program
[08:48] <Sindacious> could anyone tell me where the kernel module loader conf is?
[08:48] <Kohlrak-Server> Xpress 1100 i do believe
[08:48] <fsloke> how can I clean it up ?
[08:49] <Kohlrak-Server> morbyte: yes, i can log in, but that's where the trouble starts
[08:49] <LSD|Ninja> fsloke: if you're lucky you can make uninstall but if you;re not, you're SOL without a reinstall
[08:49] <morbyte> Kohlrak-Server: no. its not problematic for all fglrx
[08:49] <wols> fsloke: depends wholly on the program, not standard way. that's one of the reason we tell people NOT to use make and make install
[08:49] <prince_jammys> fsloke: check the README that came with it.
[08:49] <LSD|Ninja> fsloke: this is why it's not generally a good idea to play games with the package manager
[08:49] <favro> fsloke: try - when your in the same dir as install -  make uninstall
[08:49] <Khisanth> favro: those sort of problems haven't actually affected me :)
[08:50] <EvaLuaTe> LSD|Ninja: when in ubuntu the light for the wireless doesn't even turn on, i think the device is not recognised properly or smth...
[08:50] <morbyte> Kohlrak-Server: me personally, im sometimes able to use compiz, sometimes im not. havent found the cure except stopping use of compiz
[08:50] <morbyte> :/
[08:50] <Kohlrak-Server> morbyte: i've found that it causes flicker, maybe i'll be lucky for once today and this'll work
[08:51] <Kohlrak-Server> i wish i could see this terminal window as well (don't know what the heck is wrong with it... for some reason the font in the terminal is twice as big as it should be, so my screen doesn't scroll with it)
[08:51] <Kohlrak-Server> oh well, it should be uninstalling
[08:52] <favro> Kohlrak-Server: bad resolution?
[08:52] <domas> hi! is there a standard way to purge APT package archive, or has that to be done manually? how can one disable the archive entirely?
[08:52] <LSD|Ninja> EvaLuaTe: The activity light/killswitch are usually software controlled. If they don't work then that doesn't necessarily mean the card isn't working. If Ubuntu is telling you it's using the Atheros HAL for it then chances are it's working fine. Check with the Network Manager to make sure.
[08:52] <Kohlrak-Server> favro: yulp, but in the terminal =p
[08:52] <morbyte> Mahrellon: thanks for your suggestions :) although im quite confident theres no option for that stuff in the bios i go digging for it (and for an alternate bios)
[08:52] <Mahrellon> morbyte: You're most welcome m8. Hope you find a solution for it :)
[08:53] <wols> domas: apt-get clean. no way to disable that I know of
[08:53] <prince_jammys> domas: perhaps you want 'apt-get clean'. check man apt-get for that and for 'autoclean'
[08:53] <wols> domas: run a cronjob once per day or so
[08:53] <Kohlrak-Server> oh this can't be good... now my panels in gnome are gone... all i did was try to make sure my drawing was off the buffer and it turned into a few years long tyrade looking for the things
[08:54] <Flannel> domas: ther are apt preferences for cache lifetime
[08:54] <domas> not finding in apt-config dump
[08:55] <domas> bah, screw that, will just disable cache entirely
[08:56] <domas> we have local mirror anyway :)
[08:58] <teodor> jhvfjhg
[08:59] <Kohlrak-Server> does anyone know how to reset gnome from the terminal
[09:02] <fsloke> README just said the history of the software
[09:02] <fsloke> cannot uninstall because doesnot have this command or script
[09:02] <favro> any lxde users here? - bugger won't accept any changes I make...
[09:03] <prince_jammys> Kohlrak-Server: you can restart X with cntrl-alt-backspace. it'll send you to the login screen.
[09:03] <favro> fsloke: that'll happen - manual delete is your next option afaik then
[09:04] <DOT3CH> on ubuntu hardy, how would i open up an executable program and edit the code
[09:04] <fsloke> what is "afaik"?
[09:04] <prince_jammys> DOT3CH: if it's in ascii text, open it with a text editor.
[09:04] <favro> DOT3CH: d/load the source and recompile is the norm
[09:04] <prince_jammys> fsloke: as far as i know
[09:05] <favro> fsloke: as far as I know
[09:05] <favro> jinx
[09:05] <fsloke> how about the history or register?
[09:05] <fsloke> in ubuntu?
[09:06] <prince_jammys> no registry in ubuntu. that's a windows thing.
[09:06] <favro> fsloke: linux doesn't work like windows - that's why it is virus free :)
[09:06] <Smileyhehe> linux isnt virus free.
[09:07] <LSD|Ninja> prince_jammys: gconf ;)
[09:07] <prince_jammys> fsloke: read the documentation from where you downloaded it to see what it did and where it put files.
[09:07] <ce_hot> dul_karim
[09:07] <prince_jammys> LSD|Ninja: yep
[09:07] <Kohlrak-Server> anyone ever miss their top and bottom panels?
[09:07] <favro> Smileyhehe: a virus needs to grow to survive - linux viruses die quick
[09:08] <dil_karim> sjkndjnkjfnk
[09:08] <prince_jammys> Kohlrak-Server: compiz has a knack for doing things like that
[09:08] <LSD|Ninja> The virus problem on Linux will grow with market share
[09:08] <Smileyhehe> Aye, they do but linux isnt virus free. + the main theat is root kits.
[09:08] <koshari> fsloke you shouls use checkinstall , that way you can remove the package
[09:08] <Kohlrak-Server> prince_jammys: and same for white screens, so i did a sudo apt-get purge compiz*
[09:08] <prince_jammys> Kohlrak-Server: great idea.
[09:08] <Kohlrak-Server> and, i got rid of my white screens only to find i have no panels left
[09:08] <favro> koshari: they're a diff breed to virus
[09:09] <Kohlrak-Server> aaaaaand, making new ones doesn't seem to be an option
[09:09] <koshari> favro ?
[09:09] <prince_jammys> Kohlrak-Server: after restarting X?
[09:10] <Wespe> hi, what is a reasonable size for /tmp ?
[09:10] <Kohlrak-Server> prince_jammys: the traditional way, control, alt, backspace
[09:10] <LeX``> hello
[09:10] <LeX``> help me please
[09:10] <favro> bloody nick completion :) - sorry koshari
[09:10] <LeX``> This content requires at least Adobe Flash Player 9.0.115. The latest flash player can be found at
[09:10] <LeX``> for install new version
[09:10] <LeX``> :(
[09:10] <LSD|Ninja> LeX``: you running Flash 10?
[09:10] <LeX``> where i can see the version?
[09:10] <LeX``> im 13 years old
[09:10] <LeX``> im new on ubuntu
[09:10] <LSD|Ninja> Wespe: I jsut leave it on the same partition as / that way it gets all the space it needs
[09:11] <wols> !flash | LeX``
[09:12] <LeX``> ok
[09:14] <phantomcircuit> wow
[09:14] <phantomcircuit> biden sucks cock at making speeches
[09:14] <LSD|Ninja> who?
[09:15] <favro> any lxde users here? - I make changes to the window manager and panel default apps and they are ignored...
[09:15] <phantomcircuit> obama's veep?
[09:15] <LSD|Ninja> Oh
[09:15] <favro> !ohmy
[09:17] <LeX``> sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree ?
[09:18] <LSD|Ninja> LeX``: Install the full ubuntu-restricted-extras package. That'll get you not only Flash, but a bunch of other stuff too
[09:18] <LeX``> how i can pls
[09:19] <favro>  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras maybe?
[09:19] <Kohlrak-Server> anyone know the command for theme changing applet from the terminal?
[09:19] <crdlb> Kohlrak-Server: gnome-appearance-properties?
[09:20] <LeX``> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras i try
[09:21] <vikku> hi all i ran the ./configure to have mplayer install but iam getting following erro :Cannot find header either inttypes.h or bitypes.h
[09:21] <Kohlrak-Server> crdlb: that's it, you guys never fail to amaze me
[09:21] <fsloke> ok thank guys
[09:21] <morbyte> is it possible to tell the acpi thermal module to work with fahrenheit scale instead of celsius? my laptop is shutting down immediatly after booting, telling me that he has 68°C (which is impossible as i have put a lot of icepacks below it :D)
[09:22] <romme> an attempt to update the kernel had gone wrong and now i've booted from the LiveCD. how do i manage packages on my root partition from here?
[09:22] <favro> romme: !chroot
[09:22] <LeX``> Configuro icedtea-gcjwebplugin (1.0-0ubuntu5) ...
[09:22] <LeX``> Processing triggers for libc6 ...
[09:22] <LeX``> ldconfig deferred processing now taking place
[09:22] <LeX``> synscan@lex:~/Scrivania$
[09:23] <favro> !chroot
[09:23] <LeX``> nothing when i open www.burton.com
[09:23] <LeX``> This content requires at least Adobe Flash Player 9.0.115. The latest flash player can be found at Adobe.com/go/getflash
[09:23] <morbyte> romme: im not sure, but i think you have to chroot to your root by mounting it first (on the live cd) and then "chroot /what/ever/dir/"
[09:23] <LeX``> :(
[09:23] <favro> romme: did your live cd have the option to rescue a broken install or similar?
[09:24] <siloko> hello recent update has broken my wireless network - I can connect with previous kernel but not current one
[09:26] <romme> favro: thanks, i've already chrooted. now trying to reinstall the broken packages
[09:27] <siloko> with the current kernel I get weird messages in syslog from the wireless driver e.g.  ipw2200: Unknown symbol ieee80211_wx_get_scan
[09:27] <favro> siloko: if you installed drivers etc to get your wireless working in the previous kernel then you need to do that for each kernel
[09:27] <ushimitsudoki> I have a panel on a second x screen with a quicklauncher applet. But, the applications all launch on the first x screen?
[09:28] <siloko> favro: wireless has worked for past 2 years with many canonical pushed updates . . . nothingnew with the last laot!
[09:28] <favro> romme: dpkg-reconfigure package or apt-get install --reinstall package?
[09:28] <romme> favro: apt-get install --reinstall
[09:29] <mespejel> hello, here is my issue: i install ubuntu, and i dont remember if idid the swap partition or not.. so create a swap file.. now i dont know if im really using the swap file or a swap partition (from hd)... cause the swap file i indicate for 2gb but it appears as 1.5gb.. or is there any other way to check the swap instead of the system monitor?
[09:29] <romme> favro: now i'm getting a weird error message: /var/lib/dpkg/info/xorg-driver-fglrx.postrm: 57: cannot create /dev/null: Permission denied
[09:30] <Rob> hey can anybody help me out
[09:30] <siloko> mespejel: got to /etc/fstab and check the partition you expectis beingmounted at boot - or start gparted and check the partition listing there
[09:30] <favro> bash: man: command not found - what now ...?
[09:31] <favro> romme: use sudo
[09:31] <gaurav__> can any one tell me how to get the yahoo messanger
[09:31] <Rob> just use pidgin
[09:31] <bullgard4> What is the function of the 'Mono out' bar in AlsaMixer? I could not find it in man alsamixer.
[09:31] <romme> favro: i'm root, i did sudo su before entering chroot
[09:31] <dfccarrion> on linux?
[09:31] <pc04> ule
[09:32] <jAguAr`> omfgitsashark, what do u need help with?
[09:32] <omfgitsashark> i just got ubuntu and i am trying to install intrediplist can anybody help me
[09:32] <Seveas> favro, sudo apt-get install man-db
[09:32] <dfccarrion> guarav__: i suggest you use pidgin
[09:32] <favro> romme: must be mounted read only then
[09:32] <bullgard4> omfgitsashark: You will get more help in the #ubuntu+1 channel.
[09:32] <rlc> sup?
[09:32] <romme> favro: i've succeeded in editing regular files
[09:32] <dfccarrion> guarav__: but If you're set on using yahoo, i think you may need to emulate with wine, because it don't think it's available for linux
[09:33] <favro> Seveas: I'm two years in with this install - man worked earlier today
[09:33] <Seveas> favro, your $PATH variable is mangled?
[09:33] <favro> Seveas: thnx - I'll check
[09:34] <Seveas> favro, does this command work: users
[09:34] <favro> Seveas: looks ok to me - Working-@-Command Line:~$ $PATH
[09:34] <favro> bash: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[09:35] <Seveas> yeah, looks fine
[09:35] <geek_> dfccarrion: actually i seem to recall there's a ANCHIENT yahoo *nix verson....
[09:35] <mespejel> siloco: for /etc/fstab i got permission denied
[09:35] <mespejel> :(
[09:35] <Seveas> favro, dpkg -l man-db
[09:35] <joustin> the moe I play with Linux, the more I hate windows
[09:35] <favro> Seveas: there's three of me - Working-@-Command Line:~$ users
[09:35] <favro> pnewm pnewm pnewm
[09:35] <guntbert> mespejel: use sudo
[09:35] <mespejel> i did
[09:36] <Kohlrak-Server> i appriciate the patience that was taken for me tonight. I can live with ubuntu once again, but i'm not looking forward to more upgrades.
[09:36] <mespejel> if i try sudo.. it apperas as command not found
[09:36] <mespejel> is the command correct? sudo /etc/fstab
[09:36] <mespejel> ?
[09:37] <badlenin> no
[09:37] <guntbert> mespejel: no: sudo cat /etc/fstab
[09:37] <batsquid> how can i save attachments in commandline 'mail'? also the mail is in ~/mbox - i don't know how to reopen the mail i received
[09:37] <rlc> I'll find out
[09:37] <favro> Seveas: doesn't look right - http://paste.ubuntu.com/40370/
[09:38] <mespejel> pfff i didnt get it
[09:38] <mespejel> that command
[09:38] <mespejel> is not giving me numbers
[09:38] <Seveas> favro, you removed the man-db package, so th get back to what I said earlier:
[09:38] <Woet> How would I permanently change the default editor of a .php file?
[09:38] <Seveas> favro, sudo apt-get install man-db
[09:38] <mespejel> for swap i get
[09:39] <favro> Seveas: it's my first boot into lxde - I'll boot into my normal fluxbox and check - then apt-get install if needed - thnx
[09:39] <mespejel> swapfile1 swap swap defaults 0 0
[09:39] <guntbert> mespejel: it gives you names, but try something different - free
[09:39] <mespejel> this means that its detecting my swapfile?
[09:40] <mespejel> 1494004
[09:40] <mespejel> thats like 1.5 gb isnt?
[09:40] <mespejel> for swap
[09:40] <guntbert> mespejel: right
[09:40] <omfgitsashark> can anybody help me install this gnome app
[09:40] <mespejel> mmm
[09:40] <mespejel> im using 4gb lol
[09:41] <mespejel> i guess i need more swap
[09:41] <ctc> which app?
[09:42] <Woet> How would I permanently change the default program to open a file?
[09:42] <garou> I am flabbergasted... I just exchanged my GFX card for a new one. This too does not appear in lspci. What the heck?
[09:42] <prince_jammys> !defaultapp | Woet
[09:42] <guntbert> !prefix | mespejel
[09:43] <Woet> prince_jammys: I did that, but it doesnt remember it for some reason.
[09:44] <atlef> how do i set a static ip on my wireless, roaming mode works
[09:44] <favro> Seveas: well there you go - installing lxde removed man-db for me? - thanks again :)
[09:45] <Woet> does open with support %F ?
[09:45] <bullgard4> What is the function of the 'Mono out' bar in AlsaMixer? I could not find it in man alsamixer.
[09:46] <Woet> prince_jammys: I already know the problem. The file I'm trying to open is on a samba drive.
[09:46] <Woet> in that case, the file at the end doesn't get send properly
[09:46] <wtflolz> hello ubuntu i just bought an iPhone3G and I'm using Ubuntu hardy how do i put mp3 on my iPhone using rhythmbox or banshee?
[09:46] <prince_jammys> Woet: ah. i don't know about samba
[09:49] <mespejel> sorry i fogot what waas the command to check my partitions.. not the free one the other one.. /etc what?
[09:49] <wtflolz> please tell i just bought a piece of crap ( i mean iPhone 3G)
[09:49] <guntbert> mespejel: sudo cat /etc/fstab
[09:49] <guntbert> !prefix | mespejel
[09:50] <Woet> prince_jammys: It turns it into /home/wouter/smb://....
[09:50] <Woet> prince_jammys: hence it can't find the file
[09:51] <prince_jammys> Woet: look into the other formats you may be able to use, other than %F
[09:52] <Woet> prince_jammys: I don't use %F, ubuntu appends it by itself
[09:52] <mespejel> hmm this is weird.. I just delete the swap file.. using .etc/fstab now the swap file disappears and the swap appears as none... but using free it indicates that im using 1494004 for swap..
[09:52] <mespejel> any clue?
[09:53] <atlef> how do i set a static ip on my wireless, roaming mode works
[09:53] <mespejel> guntbert: any clue?
[09:54] <ArcInversion> atlef: if roaming works, why do you want a static ip?
[09:54] <wtflolz> hello ubuntu i just bought an iPhone3G and I'm using Ubuntu hardy how do i put mp3 on my iPhone using rhythmbox or banshee?
[09:55] <lg188> hello
[09:55] <mespejel> guntbert: cause even when i was using swap file.. that swap appears that im pretty sure thats not what i indicate for swap file.. so maybe i have a partition?
[09:55] <atlef> well, just say i do, how to. it just resets to wpa personal while i have wpa 2 personal, and the password is completely wrong
[09:55] <ArcInversion> wtflolz, have you jailbroken your iphone yet?
[09:55] <wtflolz> nope ArcInversion
[09:55] <ArcInversion> You need to jailbreak your iphone first using Windows or Mac
[09:56] <BigWorM> Pwnage !
[09:56] <ArcInversion> Then download the ipod-convenience package from synaptic package manager, then your iphone will be able to hook up to rhythmbox
[09:56] <wtflolz> ArcInversion ok thanks for the info but no jailbrake for linux?
[09:57] <BigWorM> its ezier on mac
[09:57] <ArcInversion> the program for jailbraking it doesnt work on linux.  Possibly with Wine, but it's easier just to do it on another computer
[09:57] <wtflolz> ok
[09:57] <BigWorM> use a mac
[09:57] <ArcInversion> I have an ipod touch, it's the same steps..
[09:58] <wtflolz> thanks
[09:58] <kcman> what is the command in terminal to see free memory
[09:58] <ArcInversion> Jailbrake it, then download ipod-convenience package from the Synaptic Package Manager
[09:58] <guntbert> mespejel: I'm pretty sure, you're using a swap partition, whats the output of sudo fdisk -l ? (pastebin it please)
[09:58] <guntbert> kcman: free
[09:58] <Woet> kcman: free
[09:58] <atlef> ArcInversion: well, just say i do, how to. it just resets to wpa personal while i have wpa 2 personal, and the password is completely wrong
[09:59] <ArcInversion> wtflolz: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone
[09:59] <lg188> ghowto insdtall  wine ?
[09:59] <execute> my apache cant start because "no listening sockets available, shutting down"
[09:59] <Computech> does someone know a programm for ubuntu to block sites that are not good for children?
[09:59] <wtflolz> ArcInversion : gracias
[09:59] <execute> how can I fix it ?
[10:00] <wols> execute: sudo netstat -anp |grep 80
[10:00] <artemis> hello, how do i install aplications from internet eg. firefox
[10:00] <artemis> i have download the tar pacage and know what?
[10:00] <wols> artemis: add/remove packages. the program is named "synaptic"
[10:00] <ctc> Computech: for FF http://kb.mozillazine.org/Parental_controls
[10:00] <wols> artemis: do not install tarballs
[10:00] <Computech> ok
[10:00] <execute> wols, I cant seem to find it there
[10:01] <mespejel> guntbert: this is weird.. im indded getting.. 1494013 for linux swap / solaris... why solaris appears here? lol
[10:01] <artemis> wols: i have to install this firefox as i want it in my language and using apt-get lang.pac doesn't work
[10:01] <guntbert> !paste | mespejel
[10:01] <geek_> mespejel: cause the partition type for swap is the same for both?
[10:02] <ePhil> hi, i'm new to ubuntu, is there an easy way to get php4 installed via aptitude (possible some "old" mirrors with those paketes)? Oh - yes i know php4 ***** and is EOL ;)
[10:02] <ArcInversion> ePhil: try searching for it with Synaptic Package Manager?
[10:02] <prince_jammys> ArcInversion: what language?
[10:03] <BigWorM> sudo aptitude-get install PHP4 ?
[10:03] <prince_jammys> ArcInversion: sorry, wrong nick.
[10:03] <ePhil> aptitude search php4 gave me nothing :(
[10:03] <prince_jammys> artemis: what language?
[10:03] <ArcInversion> Lol, was gonna say..
[10:04] <BigWorM> ePhil > can u find a tar ball of it ?
[10:04] <artemis> prince_jammys: Polish
[10:04] <artemis> i have download the lang.pac using apt but firefox still is eng
[10:04] <prince_jammys> artemis: install firefox from the repository. don't install from tar file.
[10:04] <ePhil> BigWorM: I might... i was hoping u guys know some mirros that contain thos paketes ;)
[10:04] <artemis> prince_jammys, what is repository
[10:05] <joaopinto> ePhil, php4 is not supported any longer
[10:05] <BigWorM> ePhil > google !
[10:05] <prince_jammys> artemis: 'sudo apt-get install firefox mozilla-firefox-locale-pl-pl'
[10:05] <automi> hali
[10:05] <artemis> prince_jammys: i did and sitll it's in eng
[10:05] <mespejel_> gunbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/40377/
[10:06] <prince_jammys> artemis: do you have mozilla-firefox-locale-pl-pl installed?
[10:06] <ePhil> ok - so there is no "historic archive" of old version lying around... oh well this is what i expected... thx anyway
[10:06] <prince_jammys> !pm | artemis
[10:07] <chak> hello
[10:07] <ArcInversion> ePhil, on Synaptic Package Manager there is a package you can install that has the documentation for PHP4 still on it.
[10:07] <artemis> prince_jammys: yes, i have it instaled
[10:07] <Regel> how can i Enable ipv6 on ubuntu?
[10:08] <merike> hello, I need help getting wired internet working, anyone?
[10:08] <mespejel_> guntbert: also with /etc/fstab to see where its located my swap on my disk.. and it appears as NONE..
[10:08] <artemis> prince_jammys: why shouldn't i install tar files?
[10:08] <mespejel_> im confused
[10:08] <f00li5h> meow
[10:08] <mespejel_> guntbert: btw, here is the link again http://paste.ubuntu.com/40377/
[10:09] <prince_jammys> artemis: because firefox is available through apt, and it installs, updates, and uninstalls cleanly when you do it with apt-get
[10:09] <Starnestommy> artemis: tar files aren't tracked by the package manager
[10:09] <ePhil> ArcInversion: how did u find that? I "updated" synaptic but don't find anything with php4, do u have a paketname for me?
[10:09] <Regel> how can i Enable ipv6 on ubuntu?
[10:09] <AMDFOX> how can i launch cmd in liux
[10:09] <ArcInversion> ePhil: php-doc
[10:09] <f00li5h> AMDFOX: you want a shell, right?
[10:09] <artemis> know i get it thx, but still what shall i do to get anothere lang
[10:09] <prabu> hi ppl
[10:09] <wtflolz> ArcInversion : does jailbreak works for the new iPhone3G ?
[10:10] <prince_jammys> artemis: the last person i talked to needed it in italian, and the locale package worked for him. try  removing the firefox you installed, and install it through apt.
[10:10] <SitUbuntuSit> Starnestommy, instead of make install, you could install checkinstall and use that. it makes a deb and you can install that way and have the benefit of installing a package.
[10:10] <ArcInversion> wtflolz: Yes
[10:10] <artemis> i've tried to download it using firefox download plugin, still ain't workin
[10:10] <wtflolz> ArcInversion : ok :D
[10:10] <prabu> how to install any software in ubuntu ?
[10:10] <ePhil> ArcInversion: intresting... thank you
[10:10] <artemis> price_jammys: shall i uninstal using syncpac?
[10:10] <AMDFOX> how can i do it mr.foolish ?
[10:10] <prince_jammys> artemis: i doubt you will be able to, if you installed it manually.
[10:10] <artemis> no i haven't
[10:11] <ArcInversion> wtflolz: I got an ipod touch, and after much work... I have it hooked up very nicely with Rhythmbox.  Don't give up hope, even though it might get a little messy
[10:11] <guntbert> mespejel_: "none" is just the options, swap is MOT mounted into the file system
[10:11] <artemis> i have firefox installed by ubuntu system installer
[10:11] <mespejel_> guntbert: so did you check the pastebin?
[10:11] <mespejel_> guntbert: i have a swap partition, then.. isnt?
[10:11] <prince_jammys> artemis: oooh. i thought you installed from a tarball
[10:11] <artemis> i've download the tar file but didn't do anything with it
[10:12] <artemis> prince_jammys: i wanted but i didn't know how :D
[10:12] <geek_> artemis: what locale?
[10:12] <guntbert> mespejel_: yes :-), yes, but you could increase its size, as far as I see it
[10:12] <prince_jammys> artemis: good. i misunderstood you.
[10:12] <artemis> prince_jammys: as this one form tar is with pl.lang
[10:12] <BigWorM> artemis > tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz
[10:12] <prince_jammys> prabu: there are several ways. look in the menu for 'add/remove programs'. also look at 'synaptic'. there are also ways from the command line.
[10:12] <artemis> let's give it a try :)
[10:12] <mespejel_> guntbert: what you mean? why specially me? this is not possible for everyone?
[10:13] <guntbert> mespejel_: of course, if there is space on your HD left :-)
[10:13] <geek_> artemis: hmm, might wanna give the locale switcher plugin for firefox a shot first...
[10:13] <BigWorM> whats a good cli based FTP program that is ez to configure, the home directory for one account needs to be \var\www\
[10:14] <artemis> geek_: i did download it and nothing happened
[10:14] <artemis> still eng
[10:14] <geek_> bleh
[10:14] <mespejel_> guntbert: what about a swap file? can i mix a swap file wiith the swap partition that i have?
[10:14] <Regel> how can i Enable ipv6 on ubuntu?
[10:14] <mespejel> mespejel: huh?
[10:14] <geek_> mespejel: ?
[10:14] <geek_> o0
[10:14] <geek_> wierd
[10:15] <mespejel_> lol i write to myself
[10:15] <mespejel_> sorry
[10:15] <favro> Regel: it is enabled by default
[10:15] <guntbert> mespejel: I don't know about swap files, but as far as I recall it should be possible, please read about swap (manpage, google)
[10:16] <artemis> i know eng a bit, and it's no problem for me to use ff in eng, but it's a challange for me to make it in pol :D
[10:16] <ePhil> regel: ifconfig should get u a "inet6 addr"
[10:17] <negge> I'm trying to install OCI and for this I need to run the installer script as the "oracle" user, however I can't run any X apps with that user even though the DISPLAY variable is set to the same as my own accounts
[10:17] <bazhang> artemis, you want to write in polish or have the menus etc in polish
[10:17] <negge> how come this happens and how do I make it work?
[10:17] <Regel> ePhil: yea, it says that
[10:17] <mespejel_> guntbert: well just let me know then how to extend my swap partition please
[10:17] <artemis> bazhang: menu etx
[10:17] <Regel> ePhil: but i still cant connect to ipv6 only sites
[10:17] <ePhil> regel: this is our IPv6 address - so it is enabled and hopfully working ;)
[10:18] <xnedb753> sddr
[10:18] <bazhang> artemis, is your ubuntu all in polish?
[10:18] <artemis> bazhang: no whole some parts
[10:18] <wols> BigWorM: lftp, ncftp
[10:18] <artemis> as i have places and in polish it should be miejsca
[10:19] <bazhang> artemis, when you installed what language did you choose
[10:19] <BigWorM> Thanks wols
[10:19] <Regel> could the ipv6 be restricted by my isp
[10:19] <artemis> pl
[10:19] <ePhil> regel: ok my IPv6 knowlage is short of "non existent" - is your carrier even routing ipv6?
[10:19] <wols> mespejel_: you can have as many swap partitions and files as you want
[10:19] <Regel> ePhil: no idea
[10:19] <ArcInversion> artemis: sudo apt-get mozilla-firefox-locale-pl-pl
[10:19] <Regel> propably not
[10:19] <bazhang> artemis, so writing is no problem? ie for google searches etc
[10:19] <barrie> hello
[10:19] <negge> groups
[10:19] <negge> oops
[10:20] <mespejel_> wols: how this works?.. if i need partition.. first it will detect the swap partition and if i need more it will use the swap file?
[10:20] <artemis> bazhang: no, i only whant menu in pl :D
[10:20] <guntbert> mespejel_: use gparted to see, if there is space left on your HD, I doubt it, but numbers are sometimes ....
[10:20] <bazhang> artemis, then I think you have to install the locale language files from synaptic
[10:20] <mespejel_> guntbert: why you doubt there is any space? :S
[10:20] <ePhil> regel: "ip route show" do you have a route for ipv6 paketes?
[10:20] <artemis> hm i will give it a try
[10:20] <artemis> once more :)
[10:20] <artemis> brb
[10:20] <ArcInversion> artemis: The file you need is mozilla-firefox-locale-pl-pl
[10:21] <mespejel_> guntbert: of course i have a lot of space lol
[10:21] <artemis> shit :D
[10:21] <artemis> works :D
[10:21] <Regel> ePhil: nope, doesnt seem like it
[10:21] <artemis> omg :D thx people i'm so fu.... dummy :D
[10:21] <artemis> works
[10:21] <artemis> you're the best :*
[10:21] <Regel> ePhil: so i sould go through my router manual :P ?
[10:21] <ArcInversion> lol, what did you do to fix it
[10:21] <artemis> don't ask :D
[10:21] <artemis> to stupid :D
[10:22] <ePhil> regel: i'm trying ot remember if it should ;)
[10:22] <artemis> brb phone ....
[10:22] <cacahuatepodrido> HIIIII
[10:22] <cacahuatepodrido> how is everyone doing
[10:23] <guntbert> mespejel_: well your HD has 64.4 GB, the your /dev/sda1 with ~62 GB , there is not a lot free ?
[10:23] <guntbert> then*
[10:23] <mespejel_> guntbert: 62 is enough for linux
[10:23] <ePhil> regel: I'm devinitly lacking experince here: i would suggest figuring out how routing in ipv6 works and if your isp is even accepting ipv6 paketes. sorry i can't be of more help
[10:23] <mespejel_> guntbert: cause my host os is osx
[10:23] <mespejel_> guntbert: with 190gb
[10:24] <Regel> ePhil: well, thanks anyway, at least i know where to start now :)
[10:24] <mespejel_> guntbert: i dont save music or videos here
[10:25] <mespejel_> guntbert: to learn about linux and some apps.. i dont need more than that,, i guess
[10:25] <cacahuatepodrido> wuuuuu
[10:25] <ePhil> regel: again sorry but i have to play with php4 now :(
[10:25] <guntbert> mespejel_: 62 is certainly enough 4 linux, but you need unused space to increase your swap partition
[10:25] <Cyrific> Hello, does anyone know how i can speed up sendmail. it is really slow for me
[10:25] <Regel> ePhil: no problem, already on it :)
[10:25] <rdz> hi all. how to reset the spam filter of evolution? it marks even more non-spam mails as spams than real spam mails
[10:26] <mespejel_> guntbert: yes i know guntbert.. btw im using just 2gb.. for linux.. maybe 1.5 is enough for swap?
[10:26] <mespejel_> cause im using my other 2gb for host.. i dont want osx to swap.. thats why
[10:26] <mespejel_> im using vmware btw
[10:26] <The-Compiler> How can I fill out an image with black so it's x*y pixel? With convert on the commandline
[10:26] <guntbert> mespejel_: pastebin the output of free
[10:27] <wols> mespejel_: with 2GB you don't need any swap normally
[10:27] <wols> except for hibernation
[10:27] <j800r> yo, how do i access the process manager in terminal?
[10:27] <wols> j800r: top
[10:27] <j800r> thanks dude
[10:28] <mespejel_> wols: really?
[10:28] <wols> Cyrific: are you using sendmail or something else? and slow how?
[10:28] <mespejel_> wols: i read that before.. i also read that i could use swappiness at level 10
[10:28] <mespejel_> wols: with that ammount of ram
[10:29] <wols> yes
[10:29] <Cyrific> wols: i am using sendmail, it is slow to start and executing a script to send a message
[10:29] <guntbert> mespejel_: wols is right, in any case pastebin the output of free and we talk about it
[10:30] <wols> Cyrific: why sendmail?
[10:30] <mespejel_> guntbert: maybe vmware made the partition for me? but i highly doubt that.. anyway, this is very weird, i never indicate that swap partition, maybe cause i didnt use manual installation.. ubuntu installer made it by default?
[10:31] <Cyrific> wols: that is what was recommended to me for use with php mail function
[10:31] <BigWorM> mespejel_ > the swap partition is similar to a windows page file.
[10:31] <wols> Cyrific: dpkg -l |grep sendmail
[10:31] <mespejel_> guntbert: http://paste.ubuntu.com/40384/
[10:32] <wols> mespejel_: yes ubuntu makes a swap partition depending on the wy you installed
[10:32] <morbyte> on a scale from 1 to 10: how risky is it to put the laptop in the refrigerator to cool it down?
[10:32] <mespejel_> wols: i get it now then
[10:32] <wols> morbyte: not too good. condensation
[10:32] <scuser> hi all, does anyone know how to install ldiskfs module on ubuntu 8.04 ?
[10:32] <cacahuatepodrido> VIVA LINUX
[10:33] <guntbert> mespejel_: look at the last line - swap used = 0, so no swap is used at the moment, no need to incresae :-))
[10:34] <mespejel_> guntbert: obviously, im just using amarok and irc chat
[10:34] <mespejel_> guntbert: but sometimes i use many apps
[10:34] <wols> mespejel_: filling 2GB is _hard_
[10:34] <guntbert> mespejel_: for the moment leave it alone :-)
[10:35] <mespejel_> wols: all right.. i will just leave it as it
[10:35] <mespejel_> by the way.. out of topic.. i have the option to use 1 or 2 of my processors (i have core duo).. and i dont feel any difference
[10:36] <mespejel_> ubuntu runs good with just 1
[10:36] <Cyrific> wols: i get, libmail-sendmail-perl 0.79-4, sendmail, sendmail-base, sendamil-bin, sendmail-cd, 8.14.2-2build1
[10:36] <wols> scuser: apt-cache search lustre
[10:36] <wols> Cyrific: bad. very bad
[10:36] <wols> Cyrific: never ever use sendmail. ever
[10:36] <wols> use exim4 or postfix. and yes, php works fine with them
[10:37] <KillGuta> wait a minute... ubuntu runs only with 1 core?
[10:37] <KillGuta> I mean its not using my 2nd one right now?
[10:37] <wols> sendmail is very complicated and not usable for normal people. only professional mail admins use sendmail. they need it, you don't
[10:37] <wols> KillGuta: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[10:38] <Cyrific> wols: i will try postfix. is there a special path i need to put into php.ini?
[10:38] <wols> Cyrific: no
[10:38] <mespejel_> Sadly, vmware is making me ignorant and lazy lol.. with all this tools.. the first time i install ubuntu using dual boot.. nothing worked... mighty mouse, bluetooth keyboard.. not even sound or wifi.. there is a way to fix this.. but i was to lazy.. then i try vmware and everything worker out of the box lol
[10:38] <wols> every MTA has a sendmail wrapper
[10:38] <Guest44209> hi :)
[10:39] <scuser> wols: I've already installed all the packages specified by apt-cache but still ldiskfs module not found by the mkfs.lustre command, could you guide me how to fix this issue or just point out the problem ?
[10:39] <Cyrific> wols: cool, thank you very much for your help, i will start correcting this right away
[10:40] <wols> scuser: it'S a kernel module. afaik you need to patch your own kernel and recompile it
[10:41] <scuser> wols: isn't this done by installing linux-patch-lustre ?
[10:41] <mespejel_> wols: ubuntu is booting in 16 seconds in my macbook
[10:41] <mespejel_> wols: after i fallow some tutorials.. is booting faster than osx
[10:41] <wols> scuser: that only installs the patch. You need to patch your kernel source and rebuild it
[10:42] <rdz> hi all. how to reset the spam filter of evolution? it marks even more non-spam mails as spams than real spam mails
[10:42] <omfgitsashark> does anybody know whaht i need to install to make it looks like i have the mac os thing on the bottom
[10:42] <milligan_> wols, I also presume your sendmail comment was a joke, wasn't it?
[10:42] <computer_> i have 5mb pics that needs to be reduced to smaller size, what is a good program for this?
[10:42] <wols> milligan_: no
[10:42] <omfgitsashark> photoshop
[10:43] <FD_F> <omfgitsashar: go to http://www.gnome-look.org/
[10:43] <favro> computer_: I use gimp and image - scale
[10:43] <wols> computer_: imagemagick convert
[10:43] <milligan_> wols, sendmail is shit. It's bloated, slow and not very customizable. Any email admin with respect for himself and his customers will go for a postfix or exim solution.
[10:44] <Theaxiom> I installed the hardware drivers for nvidia on a different computer, and now there is relics all over the screen and it is all crazy...anyone know why?
[10:44] <KillGuta> anyone know the command to shut down the gdm thingy so I can install nvidia driver?
[10:44] <omfgitsashark> do you know what it would be under
[10:44] <FD_F> killguta: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:44] <wols> milligan_: no. BIG ISPs need sendmail, no questions about it, but they have whole fulltime admins or even teams for it
[10:44] <favro> KillGuta: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[10:44] <KillGuta> thank you :)
[10:44] <wols> milligan_: ubuntu users are fine with postfix
[10:45] <FD_F> killguta: you can use evny to (easy)
[10:45] <wols> milligan_: it is not shit, it'S just oversized. a nuke when you only need a hand grenade so to speak
[10:45] <wols> KillGuta: do not use that driver or you break your package management
[10:45] <wols> !Nvidia | KillGuta
[10:48] <koshari> omfgitsashark avent i think its called
[10:48] <koshari> avant?
[10:48] <koshari> !avant
[10:49] <Roggy> Can I install PHP and MySQL on Wubi?
[10:50] <favro> Roggy: sure
[10:50] <favro> !lamp
[10:52] <prada> Hi..can someone tell me if Ubuntu has a decompiler for flash
[10:53] <favro> !flash
[10:54] <jitu3485> hi all of my panels  disappeared how to get back the panels?
[10:54] <favro> prada: do you want the source files ?
[10:54] <Roggy> sec
[10:55] <Roggy> lamp will let me run PHP on my Ubuntu without uploading the files every time?
[10:55] <favro> jitu3485: using gnome? - alt+F2 and type   gnome-panel   afaik
[10:55] <wols> Roggy: yes it will
[10:56] <prada> yes the actual action script code
[10:56] <wols> Roggy: but for website deployment you still need to upload it to your hoster. it's just for testing and development
[10:56] <jitu3485> yes gnome favro
[10:56] <Roggy> wols: and if I install the package from php.net, it won't work?
[10:57] <favro> prada: you can d/load the source files -  -dev    they're called in synaptic
[10:57] <wols> Roggy: don't use that. you can install it but it'S unsupported
[10:57] <Roggy> so Lamp is the best option for me?
[10:57] <wols> favro: he means he has a flash applet on the web and wants its actionscript code. a decompiler
[10:58] <wols> Roggy: by far
[10:58] <wols> Roggy: what is your problem exactly?
[10:58] <Roggy> I don't have a problem
[10:58] <favro> wols
[10:58] <favro> oops
[10:58] <wols> Roggy: then why did you ask something? :)
[10:58] <XB23> hey guys, anyone know if ubuntu can trigger a runtime script when a user logs in via ssh?
[10:58] <Roggy> because i had a question, not a problem
[10:59] <XB23> so i could for instance run a custom motd per user
[10:59] <wols> Roggy: you want to accomplish something, what exactly? maybe you need to specify your question better
[10:59] <favro> wols: I know nothing about that - do you ?
[10:59] <adimov_> hi, i need some help with ubuntu
[10:59] <XB23> anyone
[10:59] <wols> favro: I've done some looking, and IIRC dan kaminsky or such wrote a (*nix*) decompiler. on windows there are various, commercial ones
[10:59] <Roggy> I want to test my PHP files without uploading. WAMP didn't work for me (on Windows) so I decided to try developing oj
[10:59] <Roggy> *on Linux
[10:59] <wols> favro: neither is in ubuntu
[10:59] <jitu3485> favro>> not worked
[11:00] <wols> Roggy: easily doable. install lamp the ubuntu way
[11:00] <wols> !lamp | Roggy
[11:00] <icedwater> Hey, what could have caused my Gnome settings Daemon to not start properly? It does that from time to time.
[11:00] <XB23> hey guys, anyone know if ubuntu can trigger a runtime script when a user logs in via ssh?
[11:00] <XB23> anyone
[11:00] <XB23> so i could for instance run a custom motd per user
[11:00] <favro> jitu3485: I don't use gnome - I'll have a quick google
[11:01] <Roggy> and will it work on Wubi as well? (I don't wish to get into the partitions thing)
[11:01] <adimov_> with whom can i talk about ubuntu?
[11:01] <wols> Roggy: yes it will. but wubi itself is evil. use xampp on windows. it does work, I used it myself before
[11:01] <wols> adimov_: with anyone in here. ask in the channel
[11:01] <Roggy> what's wrong with Wubi?
[11:02] <wols> error prone and such. uneeded complexity
[11:02] <adimov_> how can I see my partitions in ubuntu? wols
[11:02] <wols> adimov_: sudo fdisk -l
[11:02] <Roggy> so either real Ubuntu or Xampp?
[11:02] <prada> so what exactly am i looking for in synaptic favro ?
[11:02] <bakalokaloka> hey
[11:02] <wols> Roggy: yes
[11:02] <prada> d/load ?
[11:03] <wols> prada: there is no decompiler for flash in ubuntu IIRC
[11:03] <chazco> Hi... some applications dont fit onto the 1024x600 display... is there any way to enable a scrolling 1024x768 similar to Windows?
[11:03] <adimov_> what can i do if i have lost some windows partitions
[11:03] <wols> a1addepends how
[11:04] <favro> jitu3485: gnome-panel &   is the recommended way - do it in terminal so you get some feedback :)
[11:04] <jitu3485> favro>> done
[11:05] <adimov_> i tried to upgrade to 8.04 and it didn't work, now i can see my windows partitions no more
[11:05] <NET||abuse> anyone know a good way to open groups of files in gedit as per "project" setups in other editors?
[11:06] <jajajalooser> fuck off
[11:06] <jajajalooser> you are my bitch
[11:06] <jajajalooser> come on
[11:06] <jajajalooser> ban me
[11:06] <jajajalooser> again
[11:06] <jajajalooser> i will bak
[11:06] <FloodBot2> jajajalooser: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:06] <jajajalooser> fuck you
[11:06] <jajajalooser> jajajaa
[11:06] <hateball> !op | jajajalooser
[11:06] <icedwater> adimov_: check in your fstab?
[11:07] <Rob> how do i change the font color on the panels
[11:07] <chazco> Hi... some applications dont fit onto the 1024x600 display on this laptop? Any ideas?
[11:07] <adimov_> i'm kinda newbie, whats fstab?
[11:07] <Rob> anybody know h ow to change the font color for the panels
[11:07] <milligan_> adimov_, a "list" of your filesystem
[11:07] <The-Compiler> adimov_: a list of devices which get automatically mounted
[11:07] <milligan_> adimov_, well, your mounts.
[11:08] <icedwater> adimov_: look in a terminal, enter "cat /etc/fstab" - that'll give you a list of the partitions that will be mounted automatically
[11:09] <adimov_> ok let me see
[11:09] <Rob> can anybody help me?
[11:09]  * dextone bye guys
[11:09] <d1g1talpsyko> depends
[11:09] <Rob> how do i change the font color on the panels
[11:09] <icedwater> Rob, what sort of panels do you want to change the font color on? The menu, you mean?
[11:10] <Rob> yeah the top panel
[11:10] <icedwater> Are you using Gnome?
[11:10] <Rob> yeah
[11:10] <favfro> .gtkrc-mine is the file to do that
[11:11] <Rob> i need it to be white on the panel only
[11:11] <Rob> then black when you hit say applications
[11:12]  * favfro = favro - I got disconnected - sorry if I missed anything
[11:12] <adimov_> sda1 ext3, sda5 swap, scd0, scd1 - that's all
[11:13] <adimov_> icedwater
[11:14] <favfro> jitu3485: how're the panels?
[11:15] <jitu3485> favfro>> yes i got it
[11:15] <favfro> :)
[11:16] <adimov_> icedwater i have sda1 ext3, sda5 swap, scd0, scd1 - that's all
[11:16] <jitu3485> i did ctrl-alt-f1 to switch to a virtual console;run 'env DISPLAY=:0 gnome-panel'
[11:16] <franco> tutto inglese?
[11:16] <favfro> jitu3485: well done :)
[11:16] <jitu3485> logoff,ctrl-alt-f7 to switch back
[11:16] <jitu3485> :)
[11:16] <dfccarrion> franco: yup
[11:17] <KillGuta> I got a question... how do I get the "scroll lock" back just like windows?
[11:17] <sp00n> Hello, i use KDE and realized recently that the gnome-power-manager is always running. there is no option to close or disable it.  how can i stop it from running?
[11:17] <franco> mi dispiace solo italiano e portoghese
[11:17] <adimov_> milligan
[11:17] <TiredWolf> !it | franco
[11:17] <TiredWolf> !pt | franco
[11:18] <franco> grazie a te
[11:18] <icedwater> adimov_: OK... where is your windows partition? Try checking "ls /dev/sda*"
[11:18] <franco> nada
[11:18] <icedwater> How many partitions do you have?
[11:18] <adimov_> ok
[11:19] <favfro> franco: /j #ubuntu-it
[11:19] <adimov_> /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda5
[11:20] <icedwater> adimov_, I believe someone suggested "sudo fdisk -l" earlier. Try that? It should confirm that your /dev/sda2 is the Windows partition.
[11:20] <adimov_> let's check
[11:21] <SrinivasV> :
[11:22] <adimov_> /dev/sda1   *           1        4775    38355156   83  Linux
[11:22] <adimov_> /dev/sda2            4776        4865      722925    5  Extended
[11:22] <adimov_> /dev/sda5            4776        4865      722893+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[11:23] <geek_> adimov_: next time use pastebin ;)
[11:23] <geev> hi to everybody in the room
[11:23]  * icedwater smiles at adimov_ :)
[11:23] <Seveas> AdmiralNDP, there are no windows partitions there :)
[11:23] <prada> I can not figure out how to install software using terminal
[11:23] <Seveas> adimov_*
[11:23] <adimov_> what's pastebin>
[11:23] <Seveas> prada, sudo apt-get install name_of_package_here
[11:24] <icedwater> That's funny, though, I thought sda2 would be the Windows one.
[11:24] <prada> so it would look like this
[11:24] <icedwater> adimov_, check out www.pastebin.com :)
[11:24] <adimov_> ok
[11:24] <icedwater> It allows you to paste stuff online so everyone can see... and it should expire after a certain given time
[11:24] <prada>  sudo apt-get install swftools-2008-08-21-2105
[11:25] <icedwater> Guys: would doing an update-grub solve adimov_'s problem by automatically inserting the Windows partition?
[11:25] <prada> thats how it is saved on my desktop
[11:25] <favfro> !paste | adimov_
[11:25] <Seveas> icedwater, no. There *is* no windows partition
[11:26] <adimov_> so my windows partitions are gone for good!
[11:26] <Seveas> adimov_: I guess you overwrote windows when installing ubuntu
[11:26] <Anderson4> how can i disable cleartype in Firefox 3 (Ubuntu 8.04)?
[11:26] <icedwater> Seveas: thought so too... but if adimov_ is right, then he should have had some Windows partition that isn't there any more?
[11:26] <Seveas> adimov_, or do you have a second harddisk?
[11:26] <adimov_> no i have no second harddisk
[11:26] <Seveas> adimov_, then your windows partitions are gone.
[11:26] <icedwater> adimov_, do you have the Ubuntu live CD?
[11:27] <prada> whoohoo ! i think i figured it out..thanks Seveas
[11:27] <icedwater> You could boot with it and see what partitions are automatically detected.
[11:27] <adimov_> no, i don't think so just something alternative or so
[11:29] <icedwater> adimov_: I see, you downloaded the alternate install disc image? What did you do when you upgraded to 8.04?
[11:29] <icedwater> If you did an online upgrade, it shouldn't have touched the partitions at all.. if you used the CD, then you might have formatted them away.
[11:30]  * geek_ notes if its a freshly formatted disk you MAY be able to recover the old partitions with testdisk off the livecd
[11:30] <adimov_> i started download and install and than when on install it stopped and 12 minutes left and i had to unplug
[11:30] <geek_> if thats what you want
[11:30] <Anderson4> does somebody know ﻿how to disable cleartype in Firefox 3 (Ubuntu 8.04)?
[11:31] <steviejks> hello
[11:31] <adimov_> than it won't work any more ubuntu than i reinstalled 7.10
[11:31] <steviejks> can anybody help me on rtorrent ?
[11:32] <matiu> I'm trying to get wpa going using gnome network manager and it's like it's ignoring my password...Any suggestions appreciated..
[11:32] <icedwater> adimov_, so you
[11:32] <favro> Anderson4: you can click on edit>preferences.content>fonts&colors/advanced and select fonts
[11:32] <icedwater> adimov_, so you're saying you downloaded all the packages and began to install stuff... and you had to stop halfway? Then you reinstalled 7.10 using a CD after that, I guess?
[11:33] <adimov_> yes
[11:33] <The-Compiler> What's going on here? http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/391557/
[11:34] <icedwater> adimov_, I guess then it must have been something you did with 7.10 - try to recall what you did when you installed that?
[11:34] <adimov_> than i could not boot again into another system option
[11:35] <H0T_R0D> question i was wondering if i can just download packages from the universe with out installing them?
[11:36] <adimov_> i did something with partitioning stuff like erase a partition and reinstall 7.10 there, but i thought it was the previous linux partition i erased
[11:36] <Valcyon> The-Compiler, try to use "sudo" in front of the command: sudo dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us
[11:36] <adimov_> not the windows ones
[11:37] <icedwater> adimov_, I think that might have been it, then, you could have erased your Windows partition.
[11:37] <Seveas> H0T_R0D, apt-get -d install foobar
[11:37] <Seveas> -d means download-only
[11:37] <GL-san> if your windows partition is still there, you should be able to see it from ubuntu
[11:37] <H0T_R0D> where will the packages be saved to by default?
[11:37] <GL-san> if you can still see it, then the problem is your grub
[11:38] <GL-san> if ubuntu can't see it, you probably deleted it
[11:39] <H0T_R0D> and will  apt-get -d install foobar get the dependencies ?
[11:40] <Valcyon> H0T_R0D, packages are saved by default in /var/cache/apt/archives/
[11:41] <Valcyon> it will download the debendencies also
[11:42] <adimov_> ok, this is it, thanks icedwater
[11:42] <steviejks> disconnect
[11:42] <adimov_> now what can i do to reinstall windows (without erasing ubuntu accidentally)
[11:43] <Guest74833> can any one help in personalizing the desktop .. can i have two different themed desktop and how to do that
[11:43] <H0T_R0D> can i install packages from one computer to another with out internet connection?
[11:43] <The-Compiler> Valcyon: that's what fakeroot is for, but anyways, it doesn't work
[11:43] <Guest74833> dear adimov just try what drive u want to install
[11:43] <icedwater> adimov_, too bad about the Windows stuff... sorry it took so long to find you an answer :P
[11:44] <icedwater> adimov_, you will probably have to reinstall everything from scratch. Windows's bootloader is known to be nasty to other bootloaders.. after you install Windows, you won't be able to boot Ubuntu I think. Not sure how to get around that.
[11:44] <adimov_> it's ok, i had a lot of personal stuff on it and now they are gone, but this is life and computers
[11:44] <apastinen> hi, how can i prevent mlocate to index hidden (.*) files?
 : I think you should backup your MBR then reinstall your Windows the Restore you MBR
[11:45] <Guest74833> dear adimov
[11:45] <alokito> adimov_: boot with ubuntu live cd and re-install grub
[11:45] <Guest74833> do u wanna ur data back ?
[11:45] <icedwater> Maybe you can just install Windows on a spare partition, then boot from an Ubuntu LiveCD and install grub onto your MBR?
[11:45] <icedwater> Hmm... was just thinking aloud, does it really work, alokito?
[11:45] <alokito> icedwater: yup
[11:45] <TiredWolf> !recover | adimov_
[11:45] <Valcyon> The-Compiler, oh, then i don't know, hopefully these gurus here can help
[11:46] <Bupsss> hi all
[11:46] <alokito> I do that all the time.. but I prefer fedora or other anaconda based bootloader installer
[11:46] <alokito> its easier and graphical :)
[11:46] <Guest74833> how to have the multiple desktop
[11:46] <Bupsss> does anybody knows why if i modify the file user-dirs.dirs doesnt change anything at all? using hardy
[11:46] <adimov_> thanks all, i will figure out something
[11:47] <alokito> Guest74833: you mean different themes in different workspaces?
[11:47] <rlc> Hello
[11:47] <H0T_R0D> can i install packages from one computer to another with out internet connection?
[11:47] <alokito> I am searching for the same, no luck yet...
[11:47] <Guest74833> i mean different themes in desktop
[11:47] <Guest74833> adimov: u can get ur data back easily even after formating the partation
[11:47] <alokito> hmm that's workspace in same de?
[11:48] <guntbert> Bupsss: I don't understand your question. What do you want to accomplish?
[11:48] <adimov_> i don't know if to go back to windows stuff or stay with ubuntu now!
[11:48] <Bupsss> i want to change the path of the desktop, as italian version it goes to "SCRIVANIA" while i want it to go to Desktop
[11:48] <sp00n> Ok.....I would like to remove gnome from my ubuntu installation. i installed with an ubuntu CD that by default uses gnome, have since installed KDE, and dont want any part of gnome at all anymore. is this possible?
[11:48] <uncle> My sound card SB Live 5.1 is not working but another built-in card is working
[11:48] <alokito> I think it's in ubuntu brainstorm, you might find in google
[11:48] <adimov_> how guest74833
[11:49] <gaurav_> listen adimov
[11:49] <Bupsss> when i was in gutsy, i only needed to change the path in that file
[11:49] <rlc> dunno
[11:49] <icedwater> Where are all these Guests coming from?
[11:50] <guntbert> Bupsss: sorry, don't know about that :-(
[11:50] <Bupsss> :(
[11:51] <Bupsss> ok, hold on.... apparently it goes to the Desktop folder
[11:51] <Bupsss> but it keeps the wrong name
[11:51] <gaurav> dear adi u dere
[11:51] <Bupsss> °_°
[11:51] <gaurav> can any one help me out in making diff themed desktops
[11:51] <adimov_> icedwater what is with all that upgrade stuff in the right upper corner?
[11:52] <gaurav> adimov u want to know about the data restore ?
[11:52] <adimov_> yes gaurav
[11:52] <uncle> My sound card SB Live 5.1 is not working but another built-in card is working
[11:53] <alokito> uncle: you want to sound cards to work together?
[11:53] <alokito> two*
[11:53] <gaurav> well i too had the same prob when i installed linux on the system who was having the windows and den i lost my windows and it's all data den i just did one simple thing
[11:53] <uncle> alokito, no i want my sb live work fine.
[11:53] <gaurav> before that can u tell me what exactly happen with u
[11:53] <alokito> uncle: oh ur sb live isn't working?
[11:53] <uncle> alokito, it seems my SB live card is not working.
[11:53] <alokito> I also have one intel built in, and one sb live 24 bit and SB works fine
[11:53] <alokito> uncle: run alsaconfig
[11:54] <uncle> alokito, it was working fine but since 2 days its not working
[11:54] <alokito> oh alsaconfig isn't in ubuntu
[11:54] <alokito> hmm...
[11:54] <icedwater> adimov_: what upgrade stuff where? What are you running now?
[11:54] <gaurav> adimov join pm
[11:54] <alokito> uncle: does it work in any other OS?
[11:54] <uncle> alokito, yeah it works on XP
[11:54] <gaurav> can any one tell me how can i have varient in desktop
[11:55] <alokito> ok
[11:55] <Fazer2> hello, my friend has Fujitsu-Siemens Amilo L7310GW and it hangs after launching 2-3 programs at once
[11:55] <favro> alokito: you want alsamixer
[11:55] <alokito> !audio | uncle
[11:55] <icedwater> gaurav, why not share your tips here so that everyone can benefit from them?
[11:55] <Fazer2> also it hangs after enabling wireless card
[11:55] <gaurav> sure sir
[11:56] <gaurav> as adimov lost the data and even i did the same i lost my data when i install linux on the system having the windows os and after installing linux win got bugged up den i just downloaded a tool
[11:56] <Fazer2> what is more, ubuntu doesn't start if the wireless card is turned on
[11:56] <adimov_> yes, wanted to upgrade to 8.04, downloaded upgrade, starting instalation an got stuck, unpluged, did not boot on ubuntu anymore, reinstall ubuntu, format some partitions, no more windows partitions
[11:57] <adimov_> icedwater i am on 7.10
[11:57] <alokito> gaurav: you did guided partitioning or manual?
[11:57] <alokito> manual partitioning shouldn't cause data loss
[11:57] <gaurav> manual
[11:57] <alokito> hmm
[11:57] <gaurav> but i regain the data by the tool
[11:57] <gaurav> name GETDATABACK
[11:58] <alokito> ok
[11:58] <gaurav> it's worthful and u can get data even when u had done formatation of the drive
[11:58] <alokito> ok, I haven't faced any data loss.. yet
[11:58] <gaurav> well i had faced so experinced a lot
[11:59] <alokito> I have 5 operating systems installed in my 160gb hdd :)
[11:59] <gaurav> can any one tell me how can i have different theme desktop in linux
[11:59] <favro> !theme
[12:00] <gaurav> how can i add more desktops
[12:00] <alokito> gaurav: compiz or metacity?
[12:01] <alokito> in compiz, run ccsm
[12:01] <gaurav> pardon me alokito i am asking for this linux ubuntu
[12:01] <needhelp> Hi, anyone familar with video editing? I captured video from videocamera with kino to dv type 1. Then edited it with a Windows-program (ShowBiz), but when the video it produces has no sound because the audio is on the same track as the video. What should I do? Should I try to exgtract the sound and then put the sound to a extra soundtrack or try to convert the dv type 1 to dv type 2 ? Please help.
[12:01] <alokito> then set horizontal desktop size to any of your wish
[12:01] <alokito> gaurav: compiz and metacity are window decorators for ubuntu or any linux
[12:02] <alokito> compiz is de independent, metacity is for gnome, kwin is for kde
[12:02] <favro> gaurav: right click the workspace switcher
[12:02] <gaurav> now how to get these
[12:02] <alokito> window managers, sorry... not decorators
[12:02] <gaurav> dear favro thank you
[12:02] <favro> :)
[12:02] <djamel> needhelp, why don't you install Kdenlive ? it's a very good video editing software  for linux
[12:03] <gaurav> now can any one tell how can i have diff themed desktop ???? is it possible
[12:03] <koshari> needhelp you need to capture it in type2
[12:03] <uncle> alokito, the site you gave isn't helpful because the page dosen't exists
[12:03] <alokito> uncle: which site?
[12:03] <favro> gaurav: not possible yet
[12:03] <djamel> needhelp, with your camera video did you film it in DV or HDV ?
[12:03] <uncle> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToConfigureSoundBlasterAudigySEinBreezy
[12:03] <uncle> this one.
[12:03] <gaurav> isn't any tool by which i can have atleast diff backgrounds in the desktops
[12:04] <needhelp> djamel: I will install and try it right now! Stay tuned for more questions :)
[12:04] <alokito> gaurav: not possible in metacity, but there might be something in compiz
[12:04] <alokito> !compiz | gaurav
[12:04] <koshari> needhelp http://www.techtalkwiki.net/how_to_convert_dv_to_xvid#linux_version
[12:04] <adimov_> gaurav i got getdataback zip now whats next?
[12:05] <needhelp> koshari: yes I figured, but now it's too late. I already captured it to dv type 1 (.dv) and have overwritten the source on the camera
[12:05] <favro> gaurav: only if you right click the desktop and change it - people are working on it
[12:05] <gaurav> dear have u got the serial along with it
[12:05] <gaurav> ?
[12:05] <adimov_> no it's demo version
[12:06] <alokito> gaurav: please don't talk about piracy in this room
[12:06] <needhelp> djamel: i don't know what I filmed it in. It's a JVS and written on it is "MiniDV"
[12:06] <gaurav> dear download fullversion den only it will work
[12:06] <gaurav> i know dear
[12:06] <hateball> !piracy | gaurav
[12:06] <gaurav> dat's y i am saying if u wanna recover u need to have the full version which u have to purchased
[12:07] <alokito> gaurav: okay, np
[12:07] <gaurav> but in the demo version u can see the data
[12:07] <alokito> there should be opensource data recovery tools
[12:08] <gaurav> just run setup and just follow the wizard simple and easy step , it will ask u the drive for which u need to recover but dear NOTE it work mainly in
[12:08] <uncle> alokito, can you guide me so i can re-install my sound drivers or reconfigure it
[12:08] <djamel> needhelp, ok, must be DV then, when you did the capture with Kino, did you hear the sound from the camera ?
[12:08] <gaurav> well till now i haven't found any opensource recoverytool
[12:08] <alokito> uncle: wait
[12:09] <alokito> uncle: have you registered in ubuntu forum?
[12:09] <alokito> please post your problem in ubuntu forum clearly, they can help
[12:09] <uncle> yeah..
[12:09] <uncle> hmm okay.
[12:10] <adimov_> so i have open the arhive and then to run setup?
[12:10] <needhelp> djamel: can't remember. Don't think I did. But I do definitively hear sound from it if I play the .dv files with a movie player
[12:10] <adimov_> how
[12:10] <MikeSeth> uncle: does the card show up in lspci? are there any driver messages in dmesg?
[12:10] <icedwater> !topic
[12:10] <djamel> needhelp, ok perfect then, so "sudo apt-get install kdenlive" and do your thing
[12:11] <djamel> needhelp, you'll be able to export your video in more common formats with it
[12:11] <uncle> MikeSeth, 01:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)
[12:11] <uncle> MikeSeth, it is showing.
[12:11] <needhelp> djamel: I'm trying it out right now
[12:11] <MikeSeth> uncle: driver messages?
[12:11] <koshari> needhelp wonder if you can demux the audio with avidemux and add it back?
[12:12] <djamel> needhelp, for howtos : http://www.kdenlive.org/
[12:12] <uncle> MikeSeth, how can i find driver messages?
[12:12] <MikeSeth> uncle: dmesg|less, space to scroll, q to quit
[12:13] <needhelp> koshari: what is "to demux"? To extract the sound and then add it to back in the video editing prog? That's one of the ideas I thought of
[12:16] <koshari> needhelp demux means demultiplex or to strip the audio track from the combined stream, avidemux may be able to to this.
[12:16] <f00li5h> is there a way to get gnome to re-create all the crap it dumps in your homedir when you first login?
[12:16] <filippo> Hi!
[12:17] <uncle> MikeSeth, can't find the driver messages, there are lot of things.
[12:17] <gaurav> can any one help me working with the compiz
[12:17] <hackel> I'm trying to figure out how configure apt to pin a specific archive so it only installs/upgrades packages I manually install.  I've set the Pin-Priority to -10 but it still wants to upgrade packages from that archive.  Any ideas?
[12:17] <Djoef> Hi, I can access a printer using http://IP:631/printers and print a test-page. How can I now install that printer from my PC (ubuntu)
[12:17] <MikeSeth> uncle: its just a couple of screens, read carefully
[12:17] <uncle> MikeSeth, just found two of this 00:1f.5 Multimedia audio controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 02)
[12:17] <uncle> 01:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 07)
[12:17] <alokito> gaurav: its easy, you need to install graphics card drivers 1st
[12:17] <amanulla> im using xp + ubuntu  8 dual boot,when ever i log in's or log outs from ubuntu my screen brightness automatically decreases can any one suggest?
[12:17] <gaurav> how to do that
[12:18] <alokito> depends on which card you use
[12:18] <MikeSeth> uncle: those arent driver messages
[12:18] <a_run> why is ubuntu-desktop depending on pulseaudio
[12:18] <MikeSeth> uncle: lsmod and see if the driver is listed (it should be under emu10xxx or smth)
[12:18] <Djoef> when going to the http page, i see something like lpd://IP/printername how can i now install that printer ?
[12:18] <gaurav> i have no other external or additional card i am having intel mb and normal inbuilt (onboard cards)
[12:18] <a_run> i want to removge pulseaudio and it says ubuntu-desktop will be removed
[12:18] <filippo> anyone has an invite for boxee?
[12:18] <a_run> *remove
[12:18] <alokito> a_run: ubuntu-desktop installs everything to build a full featured default ubuntu gnome desktop
[12:19] <a_run> ok
[12:19] <hateball> a_run: Ubuntu-desktop is an empty metapackage
[12:19] <MikeSeth> filippo: wtf is boxee
[12:19] <a_run> is there anyway i can remove just pulseaudio
[12:19] <filippo> boxee.tv
[12:19] <MikeSeth> boole: what does it have to do with ubuntu?
[12:19] <a_run> so removing ubuntu-package won't hurt ?
[12:19] <hateball> a_run: You dont need the ubuntu-desktop package, it's just an easy way to get all the packages that depend on it
[12:19] <uncle> MikeSeth, found this snd_emu10k1_synth       8064  0
[12:19] <uncle> snd_emux_synth         36224  1 snd_emu10k1_synth
[12:19] <uncle> snd_seq_virmidi         8192  1 snd_emux_synth
[12:19] <uncle> snd_seq_midi_emul       7808  1 snd_emux_synth
[12:19] <a_run> *ubuntu-desktop
[12:19] <filippo> a opensource media center based on xbmc
[12:19] <gaurav> any help
[12:20] <a_run> hateball: ok, let me try removing it then
[12:20] <filippo> with social network feature
[12:20] <uncle> snd_emu10k1           146880  5 snd_emu10k1_synth
[12:20] <MikeSeth> uncle: looks loaded to me.. check mixer levels
[12:20] <gaurav> alokito can u help me in my compiz
[12:21] <favro> gaurav: unless it is a very new mboard it prob won't do compiz
[12:21] <a_run> what's gnome-orca ?
[12:21] <amanulla> im using xp + ubuntu  8 dual boot,when ever i log in's or log outs from ubuntu my screen brightness automatically decreases can any one suggest pls...?
[12:21] <gaurav> den how can i customize my desktop
[12:22] <uncle> MikeSeth, it worked only once last 2 days before now its not working. Now whenever i try to play mp3 file its playing but the voice output is not coming but its working with onboard card.
[12:22] <MikeSeth> uncle: check mixer lebels
[12:22] <dVs> good morning Ubuntuites
[12:22] <MikeSeth> levels*
[12:24] <uncle> MikeSeth, all are fine.
[12:24] <uncle> MikeSeth, re-install may fix this problem?
[12:24] <favro> !alsamixer
[12:25] <favro> !info alsamixer
[12:25] <favro> !find alsamixer
[12:25] <bcochofel> Hi, how can I change system language ?
[12:25] <bcochofel> I'm not using gnome or kde
[12:26] <alokito> bcochofel: System>> Administration>> Language Support
[12:26] <sileni> hey i just installed ubuntu yesterday, and when im working on my school work my computer hangs
[12:26] <filippo> anyone?
[12:26] <alokito> bcochofel: xfce?
[12:26] <bcochofel> alokito: wmii
[12:26] <alokito> oh
[12:26] <bcochofel> alokito: I don't have menu
[12:26] <sileni> sometimes it just stops working, or the screen goes really bright with random lines and it has stopped working
[12:26] <sileni> i have had ubuntu before and this has not happend, how would i fix this
[12:27] <alokito> bcochofel: okk, I don't know, then
[12:27] <bcochofel> alokito: isn't there a dpkg-reconfigure <something>?
[12:27] <beatriz> alguem quer jogar a barbie girls
[12:27] <beatriz> ??
[12:28] <bcochofel> !pt
[12:28] <favro> !pt
[12:28] <g0r8y> Hi there, Ive managed to bugger up my networking somehow - it seems as  if some wierd route is being added when ever dhcp gets an address (for wired or wireless interfaces) could some one  give me a hand
[12:29] <uncle> Hi, help me to fix my sound card problem. I have 2 sound cards 1 is onboard built-in and 2nd is SB Live 5.1. I use 5.1 as my default sound output device in XP but now am in ubuntu, my default SOUND card SB Live 5.1 not seems to be working and the onboard is working so kindly help me out to disable the onboard and enable the SB LIVE 5.1
[12:29] <bcochofel> g0r8y: I guess that route comes from DHCP server
[12:29] <filippo> invites for Boxee?
[12:29] <g0r8y> bcochofel: problem not affecting other clients  on same network
[12:30] <bcochofel> !language
[12:30] <bcochofel> !lang
[12:30] <bcochofel> !locale
[12:30] <alokito> !wmii
[12:30] <favro> uncle: if you right click the sound icon can you choose the default?
[12:30] <Djoef> nobody on the printer issue ?
[12:30] <Pici> filippo: This is a support channel, please do not solicit users for invites to some service.
[12:30] <zSoilworker> I've had a corrupt GRUB when i uninstalled XP, so, i searched around, and came up with a solution ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/40407/ ) that solved the problem, but now, when i use gparted, gpart, i only see the hd without the partitions, and "unnasigned", although i can mount this partitions and access them. Now i want to use them since i don't have any space left in the current partition i'm using. If anyone, has any ideas, i'll be glad to w
[12:30] <MikeSeth> uncle: i honestly dont know, sorry
[12:30] <bcochofel> alokito: the problem is not wmii, is the system default lang
[12:30] <amanulla> hii , i have a problem with configuring internet connection in ubuntu can any one suggest me pls?
[12:30] <alokito> favro: oh
[12:31] <alokito> I forgot that
[12:31] <uncle> favro, i can see there SB Live 5.1 is default but i can't hear the voice.
[12:31] <alokito> uncle: double click on the sound icon on your gnome panel
[12:31] <uncle> MikeSeth, no problem.
[12:31] <uncle> alokito, clicked.
[12:31] <alokito> uncle: are you using 2:1 or 5:1 sound?
[12:31] <execute> my apache cant start because "no listening sockets available, shutting down"
[12:31] <execute> how can I fix that ?
[12:31] <uncle> alokito, 5.1
[12:31] <wols> zSoilworker: sudo fdisk -l
[12:31] <execute> I cant find anything thats listening on port 80
[12:32] <alokito> hmm
[12:32] <wols> amanulla: more info needed
[12:32] <zSoilworker> wols: I see them, i can use them.
[12:32] <alokito> go to edit>> Preferences
[12:32] <filippo> Pici, Sorry for that
[12:32] <favro> uncle: in that right click menu you should see if it is using alsa or pulse - use alsa
[12:32] <execute> I looked at netstart -anp - nothing, and I dont have any other apache running
[12:32] <zSoilworker> can't use them.
[12:32] <execute> what can it be ?
[12:32] <alokito> check the IEC958 option, and close
[12:32] <wols> execute: check your apache error log
[12:32] <bullgard4> What is the function of the 'Mono out' bar in AlsaMixer? I could not find it in man alsamixer.
[12:33] <gaurav> how can i get yahoo messanger
[12:33] <g0r8y> bcochofel: if I run /etc/init.d/networking start (and interfaces file  is configured fine) i get a dhcp'ed address but then the next part of the script hangs. Then if I just run route that hangs until I do route del (net) (net mask)
[12:33] <execute> i'm not sure why, but it seems to be empty
[12:33] <uncle> favro, it is SB Live 5.1 (Alsa Mixer)
[12:33] <execute> thats.. odd
[12:33] <wols> amanulla: do never ever PM people unasked. good day
[12:33] <geek_> gaurav: you asked before. you can access yahoo messenger through gaim
[12:33] <gaurav> gaim?
[12:33] <alokito> gaurav: I don't see any need of yahoo messenger, both pidgin and kopete are very powerful messengers
[12:33] <geek_> pidgin, sorry
[12:33] <zSoilworker> gaurav: Pidgin, search it in the repositories.
[12:33] <geek_> gaim is the old name.
[12:33] <execute> I do have ErrorLog set at apache's conf, and it was logging errors before :O
[12:33] <wols> bullgard4: makes the output mono, ie disable stereo
[12:33] <alokito> zSoilworker: pidgin is default in ubuntu
[12:34] <zSoilworker> It should be installed by default.
[12:34] <uncle> gaim is renamed as pidgin
[12:34] <gaurav> i have done main prob is that i can't use the features  like cam and all in this
[12:34] <zSoilworker> alokito: You never know(?)
[12:34] <zSoilworker> gaurav: You could just run it in Wine.
[12:34] <amanulla>  hii im using xp i got internet connection there i installed ubuntu 7 im unable to configure internet connection in ubuntu im new to ubuntu can any one suggest?
[12:34] <execute> wols, any ideas?
[12:34] <alokito> gaurav: kopete has cam feature
[12:34] <alokito> search in repo
[12:34] <Teisei> Why are .crt or .cer CA certificate files not supported by Gnome Network Manager ?
[12:34] <wols> execute: start the init script again
[12:35] <gaurav> how to get this kopete
[12:35] <gaurav> ?
[12:35] <Teisei> Only .der and .pem are supported :(
[12:35] <alokito> sudo apt-get install kopete
[12:35] <zSoilworker> amanulla: How many ethernet cards do you have?
[12:35] <execute> wols, I'm getting the same error ..
[12:35] <zSoilworker> ﻿I've had a corrupt GRUB when i uninstalled XP, so, i searched around, and came up with a solution ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/40407/ ) that solved the problem, but now, when i use gparted, gpart, i only see the hd without the partitions, and "unnasigned", although i can mount this partitions and access them. Now i want to use them since i don't have any space left in the current partition i'm using. If anyone, has any ideas, i'll be glad t
[12:35] <execute> no listening sockets available, bla bla bla
[12:35] <bullgard4> wols: Thank you for explaining.
[12:35] <amanulla> technically im poor i h've no idea abot my system
[12:35] <g0r8y> Could some  one help me with a networking problem? Everytime i get dhcp'ed  an address nothing from that network is  reachable, I belive its some kind of routeing problem but dont have much exp troubleshooting that
[12:35] <execute> should I ask that here or  at #apache ?
[12:36] <f00li5h> anyone know how to re-create the default gnome configs?
[12:36] <amanulla> what can i do?
[12:36] <zSoilworker> amanulla: Do you have idea about what kind of connection, or how many ethernet cards you have?
[12:36] <amanulla> can any one remotly logged in into my system and get my problem solved?
[12:36] <favro> uncle: in terminal type   alsamixer   and turn everything max
[12:37] <rafaelscj> why do firefox 3 always start at offiline mode?
[12:37] <alokito> favro: the IEC958 and Analog switcher creates problem sometimes
[12:38] <favro> gaurav: kopote is a kde apt - install kubuntu-desktop to get it
[12:38] <execute> no one? its kinda urgent, production server, I'm probably losing 1000's of requests :\
[12:38] <alokito> favro: it can be used without kubuntu-desktop
[12:38] <gaurav> thankx all
[12:38] <alokito> it will install with all dependencies to run in gnome
[12:39] <alokito> just do sudo apt-get install kopete ... in ubuntu
[12:39] <zSoilworker> rafaelscj: go to firefox, and in the address bar write ABOUT:CONFIG, then set toolkit.networkmanager.disable to false.
[12:39] <wols> execute: sudo netstat -anp   output incl. the command you type
[12:39] <favro> alokito: uncle aplay -l will tell what is truly the default sound device
[12:39] <amanulla> ya i recently installed ubuntu 8 here i got internet working by doing the following step1:set a dail up connection for cconnectiong to ppoe via modem step2:type username and password in point to point connection
[12:39] <execute> hmm, okay, let me move to SSH (I'm on KVM right now, cant copy from there)
[12:40] <zSoilworker> ﻿﻿I've had a corrupt GRUB when i uninstalled XP, so, i searched around, and came up with a solution ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/40407/ ) that solved the problem, but now, when i use gparted, gpart, i only see the hd without the partitions, and "unnasigned", although i can mount this partitions and access them. Now i want to use them since i don't have any space left in the current partition i'm using. If anyone, has any ideas, i'll be gla
[12:40] <rafaelscj> ﻿zSoilworker, I'll try
[12:40] <uncle> favro, still voice not coming
[12:40] <scientus> i dont see the deb files on ackages.debian.org
[12:40] <alokito> uncle: tried the Switcher?
[12:40] <uncle> favro, but i can listen the voice suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu after leveling max all
[12:40] <gaurav> do IE work in linux
[12:40] <gaurav> ?
[12:40] <amanulla> i got these options only when i installed ubuntu 8 from xp as an application
[12:40] <wols> zSoilworker: did you boot from a livecd for running  gparted?
[12:40] <execute> gaurav, no, not really
[12:40] <scientus> do i have to add and then remove it from my sources
[12:40] <execute> you can run it with wine
[12:40] <TiredWolf> execute, http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/servers/107324-no-listening-sockets-available-shutting-down.html perhaps
[12:41] <uncle> alokito, what switcher?
[12:41] <Pici> scientus: Are you running Debian or Ubuntu?
[12:41] <scientus> ubuntu
[12:41] <zSoilworker> wols: Both ways.
[12:41] <gaurav> well wine is not so good on unstalling
[12:41] <pajamian> gaurav: yes, to an extentif you run it with wine.  And very crippled with IE7
[12:41] <scientus> but i need the next version
[12:41] <alokito> gaurav: it can be run with wine, but not directly
[12:41] <scientus> should i just compile
[12:41] <Pici> scientus: Why are you looking on pacakges.debian.org?
[12:41] <amanulla> wols:pls suggest
[12:41] <scientus> i guess i have to compile
[12:41] <Pici> scientus: What software are you looking for?
[12:41] <g0r8y> Everytime i get dhcp'ed (on  wired or wireless interfaces) an address nothing from that network is reachable. This problem isnt affecting other clients on the same network so I belive its some kind of routeing problem but dont have much exp troubleshooting that.
[12:41] <g0r8y> Could some one gimme  a hand?
[12:41] <wols> amanulla: do not talk tome
[12:41] <zSoilworker> wols: Everything works fine, it's just i can see them with gparted, or even with the livecdinstaller, or any.
[12:41] <scientus> rhythmbox
[12:41] <execute> damn, whats port 4842?
[12:41] <scientus> they added a featur i asked for
[12:42] <alokito> uncle: double click the volume icon, go to edit>> preferences and check IEC958, if there's any
[12:42] <rafaelscj> ﻿zSoilworker, there isn't "﻿toolkit.networkmanager.disable" there
[12:42] <zSoilworker> wols: And by don't see them, i mean i cant format them and use them, i can readwrite them.
[12:42] <wols> zSoilworker: sduo fdisk -l
[12:42] <Pici> scientus: The latest version we have available in Hardy is 0.11.5-0ubuntu8, if we don't have the version you need, I suggest compiling over installing from debian.
[12:42] <scientus> ok
[12:42] <scientus> yeah i need 0.11.6
[12:42] <wols> Pici: installing from debian no good
[12:43] <zSoilworker> wols: What should i do after that?
[12:43] <zSoilworker> rafaelscj: I'll be right with you.
[12:43] <execute> wols, what's that 4842/master? http://pastebin.ca/1184156
[12:43] <wols> zSoilworker: pastebin the output?
[12:43] <rafaelscj> ﻿zSoilworker, should I create it?
[12:43] <zSoilworker> rafaelscj: Yes.
[12:43] <uncle> alokito, there are IEC958... i checked them
[12:43] <alokito> uncle: ok, now you should see a switches tab
[12:43] <rafaelscj> ﻿zSoilworker, Boolean, right?
[12:44] <wols> execute: postfix
[12:44] <execute> should it be like that ?
[12:44] <zSoilworker> rafaelscj: Yes.
[12:44] <favro> uncle: if it worked in the previous kernel go back to that one - there are sound issues with the 24.19 kernel
[12:44] <alokito> go to the tab and check/uncheck IEC958 and try to play some music
[12:44] <execute> wols, well, I stopped postfix, still getting the same error with apache
[12:44] <zSoilworker> wols: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/40408/
[12:45] <wols> execute: don't stop your MTA
[12:45] <rafaelscj> ﻿zSoilworker, I've done, I will restart firefox
[12:45] <wols> execute: and fix your apache logging
[12:45] <execute> wols, http://pastebin.ca/1184161 <- this is what I have now
[12:45] <hackel> How can I pin packages to a specific archive in apt preferences?  It seems to ignore my o=xx line, and no "Releases" file is being downloaded.
[12:46] <execute> wols, ok, I'll go to #apache to fix that and come back here
[12:46] <wols> zSoilworker: which one do you want to format?
[12:46] <uncle> favro, alokito : problem still exists
[12:47] <zSoilworker> wols: everything but sd6 - sda7, in wich i have Ubuntu.
[12:47] <wols> zSoilworker: format or remove them?
[12:47] <alokito> uncle: try file>> change device>> Alsa Mixer
[12:47] <uncle> i read from online forums that onboard card disabling might help you but not worked.
[12:47] <zSoilworker> wols: i want to be able to use them as storage.
[12:47] <alokito> or is that already selected?
[12:47] <uncle> alokito, changed not worked
[12:47] <rafaelscj> ﻿zSoilworker, didn't work
[12:47] <alokito> ok
[12:48] <favro> uncle: go back one kernel :)
[12:48] <wols> zSoilworker: that doesn't answer my question
[12:48] <zSoilworker> rafaelscj: add a non existing eth in /etc/network/interfaces
[12:48] <alokito> oh the problem appeared after a kernel update? :-/
[12:48] <rafaelscj> ﻿zSoilworker, should be "True" instead if "False"?
[12:48] <zSoilworker> wols: Remove them, and then be able to create a new one, altogheter
[12:48] <alokito> uncle: have any ubuntu testing update repo enabled?
[12:48] <wols> zSoilworker: cfdisk and remove them
[12:49] <wols> sudo sfdisk /dev/sda or whatever
[12:49] <uncle> alokito, don't know
[12:49] <x-X-x> i have a shell script which in its properties says link to: /usr/local/games/whatever.
[12:49] <alokito> ok
[12:49] <MikeSeth> you probably want cfdisk, sfdisk is not a beginner tool
[12:49] <x-X-x> how do i do the same to another shell script
[12:49] <x-X-x> ?
[12:49] <Pici> x-X-x: ln -s target linkname
[12:49] <amanulla> can any one help to configure internet connection pls
[12:49] <MikeSeth> x-X-x: you mean create a symbolic link?
[12:49] <zSoilworker> wols: The thing is, when i open gparted, i only see the whole disk, as it was unnasigned.
[12:49] <x-X-x> y
[12:50] <zSoilworker> rafaelscj: Have you tried setting it to TRUE?
[12:50] <MikeSeth> x-X-x: ln -s /usr/local/games/whatever /home/something/whatever etc
[12:50] <g0r8y> Every time i get dhcp'ed (on  wired or wireless interfaces) an address nothing from that network is reachable. This problem isnt affecting other clients on the same network so I belive its some kind of routeing problem but dont have much exp troubleshooting that. Could some one gimme  a hand, or point me to a relevant channel
[12:50] <rafaelscj> ﻿zSoilworker, yes
[12:50] <x-X-x> pici and mikeseth u have won the internets. thnx dudes
[12:51] <zSoilworker> rafaelscj: add a inexisting device to /etc/network/interfaces,
[12:51] <MikeSeth> g0r8y: most likely default gateway isnt being set
[12:51] <zSoilworker> rafaelscj: something like iface eth205 inet dhcp
[12:51] <MikeSeth> g0r8y: paste the output of ``ip route'' after dhcp
[12:51] <uncle> anyway thanks.
[12:51] <uncle> problem still remains.
[12:51] <rafaelscj> ﻿zSoilworker, okay
[12:52] <g0r8y> Mike: yes i think its related to that - route on its own just hangs and makes no output.
[12:52] <rafaelscj> ﻿zSoilworker, done
[12:52] <zSoilworker> rafaelscj: restart.
[12:53] <execute> ok, I got it working
[12:53] <zSoilworker> ﻿﻿﻿I've had a corrupt GRUB when i uninstalled XP, so, i searched around, and came up with a solution ( http://paste.ubuntu.com/40407/ ) that solved the problem, but now, when i use gparted, gpart, i only see the hd without the partitions, and "unnasigned", although i can mount this partitions and access them. Now i want to use them since i don't have any space left in the current partition i'm using. If anyone, has any ideas, i'll be 
[12:53] <rafaelscj> ﻿zSoilworker, didn't work either
[12:53] <execute> another question - can I tell it to send me an email every time someone connects ?
[12:53] <zSoilworker> rafaelscj: Restart your system for further security
[12:54] <zSoilworker> and remove the line we've created before
[12:54] <execute> I mean, every time someone attempts to login, to email me with the username, ip and time ?
[12:54] <rafaelscj> ﻿zSoilworker, okay
[12:54] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: sudo fdisk -l
[12:54] <MikeSeth> what do you see?
[12:54] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/40408/
[12:55] <newbie> what's ubunto?
[12:55] <newbie> what's ubuntu?
[12:55] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth:  If you need me to translate it, just ask
[12:55] <favro> !ubuntu
[12:55] <favro> newbie: ^^
[12:55] <JMAC_17> HALP!! I broke it
[12:55] <JMAC_17> :'(
[12:55] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: and gparted doesnt see any of this?
[12:55] <zSoilworker> JMAC_17: That's the spirit.
[12:55] <JMAC_17> lol thxs
[12:56] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: No, just sees the sda, and marks it as unnasigned.
[12:56] <wols> zSoilworker: did I tell you to use gparted?
[12:56] <milligan_> I'm having a problem with osTicket not downloading emails in specified support accounts. Anyone seen that kind of behavior before?
[12:56] <JMAC_17> so, who wants to help a windows power user who just bought a linux loaded laptop, then tried to install wicd and it broke network manager?
[12:56] <zSoilworker> wols: That's something i've tried before.
[12:56] <wols> zSoilworker: and?
[12:56] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: it appears your partition table is corrupt
[12:56] <JMAC_17> anybody...?
[12:57] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: Yes, so, how should i fix it?
[12:57] <pajamian> JMAC_17: what is wicd?
[12:57] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: /dev/sda2 is smaller than all partitions under it
[12:57] <JMAC_17> wicd is supposed to be a better network manager
[12:57] <JMAC_17> but instead it didn't fully install after it uninstalled network manager
[12:58] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: Yes, and i have no idea why is set as the primary partition.
[12:58] <JMAC_17> and i can't use synaptic because it can't connect to reinstall the network manager
[12:58] <rafaelscj> ﻿zSoilworker, didn't work
[12:58] <wols> MikeSeth: sda2 is a primary partition. there are no partitions inside of sda2
[12:58] <JMAC_17> now i'm dl'ing a ubuntu 8.04 cd and gonna try and reinstall network manager off of it
[12:58] <JMAC_17> :'(
[12:58] <defconner> JMAC_17: what about using apt?
[12:58] <JMAC_17> apt?
[12:58] <MikeSeth> wols: then what are sda5 etc?
[12:58] <wols> !errors | JMAC_17
[12:58] <pajamian> JMAC_17: do you have the live cd?
[12:58] <defconner> JMAC_17: yeah, pop open the terminal
[12:58] <defconner> JMAC_17: apt-get install network-manager
[12:58] <wols> MikeSeth: logical partitions inside a extended partition
[12:59] <MikeSeth> wols: and the extended partition for them is..?
[12:59] <JMAC_17> defconner: open
[12:59] <wols> MikeSeth: sda1 is the extended partition
[12:59] <z-> What if i do not install boot loader into hd0? Will the system boot?
[12:59] <wols> MikeSeth: sda1
[12:59] <milligan_> defconner, if he doesn't have a netconnection, apt isn't going to do much either. Synaptics is just a frontend to apt.
[12:59] <zSoilworker> rafaelscj: do you use network-manager?
[12:59] <MikeSeth> wols: then why is it marked as NTFS?
[12:59] <amanulla> for setting up a dail up connection how to connect pppo via modem
[12:59] <MikeSeth> err, W95
[13:00] <wols> MikeSeth: cause it'S a primary partition?
[13:00] <pajamian> JMAC_17: enable the repository on the live CD, it has the network manager on that.
[13:00] <rafaelscj> ﻿zSoilworker, yes, I use. ppp0
[13:00] <milligan_> JMAC_17, NetworkManager is just a GUI for configuring your network interface. configure it manually, then use apt (or the synaptics frontend) to reinstall NetworkManager.
[13:00] <JMAC_17> defconner & milligan_: terminal reads, E: could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock- open (13 permission denied)
[13:00] <pajamian> JMAC_17: then apt or synaptics should be able to install it.
[13:00] <milligan_> JMAC_17, sudo <command>
[13:00] <zSoilworker> rafaelscj: Do you use 0.7?
[13:00] <MikeSeth> wols: it can't be primary and extended at the same time
[13:00] <milligan_> JMAC_17, makes you run it as super user.
[13:00] <JMAC_17> oops yeah, forgot the sudo
[13:00] <JMAC_17> lol thxs
[13:00] <defconner> sudo make me a sandwich
[13:00] <wols> MikeSeth: it isn't. sda1 is a extended, sda2 is a ntfs primary
[13:00] <rafaelscj> ﻿zSoilworker, 0.6.6
[13:01] <g0r8y> MikeSeth: Sorry it a while, have to type it in as  no net on that machine :) http://pastebin.com/m6b2b6385
[13:01]  * geek_ cites defconner for a gratuitus XKCD reference
[13:01] <JMAC_17> it says it reloaded it
[13:01] <JMAC_17> hold on let me try something
[13:01] <JMAC_17> crap, if i unplug thic pc to check my lappy then i'll lose you guys
[13:01] <pajamian> ok, I have to head off, goodnight.
[13:01] <JMAC_17> brb k? lol thxs
[13:02] <MikeSeth> wols: also, it seems sda2 overlaps sda1
[13:02] <f00li5h> how do I stop the vnc server from asking "really let the remote user snoop on you?"
[13:02] <f00li5h> i do not like it!
[13:02] <MikeSeth> which isnt necessarily a problem but probably confuses partitioning tools
[13:02] <oesse> hi guys. i need some help on ubuntu server edition. postfix does not work with maildir and sqwebmail
[13:02] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth, wols, focus(?),
[13:02] <JMAC_17> should i restart before trying to connect to something again?
[13:02] <smelian> hello please hot to remote desktop ubuntu in ubuntu ( one in desktop connect by wireless the other one in laptop connecting ether net )
[13:02] <oesse> and i want to install gnome desktop but i cannot
[13:02] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: im trying to figure out whether the partition table is valid
[13:03] <EvaLuaTe> hello
[13:03] <IdleOne> JMAC_17: no. this is not windows we don't restart unless absolutely necessary
[13:03] <casp3> anyone fixed the flash/firefox problem?
[13:03] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: wols: Should i remove all of the other partitions unused, and create a new one'
[13:03] <oesse> anybody can give ma an help?
[13:03] <casp3> i tried flashbeta 10 but no luck
[13:03] <EvaLuaTe> could someone please tell me how to configure my wireless connection or where to find some documentation on this?
[13:03] <IdleOne> !wifi
[13:03] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: if you're willing to lose your data
[13:03] <f00li5h> smelian: Menu->System->Preferences->Remote Desktop
[13:03] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: I have backups, that's not the issue.
[13:03] <EvaLuaTe> IdleOne: thank you
[13:03] <jacopo> What do you think about Ubuntu???
[13:03] <defconner> casp3: flash 10 is no good :(
[13:04] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: the partition table IS damaged.
[13:04] <defconner> !flash
[13:04] <IdleOne> !ot > jacopo
[13:04] <f00li5h> oesse: do you have the packages installed?
[13:04] <amanulla> for setting up a dail up connection how to connect pppo via modem?
[13:04] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: yep. The correct cure would be to rearrange partitions, which means drive names will change
[13:04] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: But ubuntu runs ok, and all i want is to use the extra space as storage for my work.
[13:04] <oesse> f00li5h: sure
[13:04] <casp3> defconner: i fixed the crashing/closing firefox bug by using beta 10 but i had to reinstall ubuntu and this method doesnt work anymore
[13:04] <f00li5h> oesse: what fails, and when?
[13:04] <oesse> f00li5h: simply do not deliver to Maildir
[13:04] <defconner> casp3: sadly, i think you are going to have to wait for Adobe to make another release to see that fixed
[13:04] <The-Compiler> Does anyone know how I can add a black border to a image which is smaller then x*y so it is x*y then? With convert from imagemagick
[13:05] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: What tool do you recomend?
[13:05] <casp3> defconner: not good :(
[13:05] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: sfdisk will do
[13:05] <f00li5h> oesse: does it deliver them somewhere else?
[13:05] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: but please read the manual VERY carefully
[13:05] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: Don't worry, i will.
[13:05] <EvaLuaTe> IdleOne: on that page, in the 'Network Settings' window, there is a 'Wireless Connection' listed, but on my system there isn't ...
[13:05] <oesse> f00li5h: i get mail in /var/spool/mail/username
[13:06] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: So, i delete the partitions with sfdisk, and keep the ones i want to?
[13:06] <f00li5h> oesse: in an mbox?
[13:06] <oesse> f00li5h: yep
[13:06] <g0r8y> Everytime i get dhcp'ed (on  wired or wireless interfaces) an address nothing from that network is reachable. This problem isnt affecting other clients on the same network so I belive its some kind of routeing problem but dont have much exp troubleshooting that. Could some one gimme  a hand? Pastebin of "ip route" and "route" here http://pastebin.com/m6b2b6385 although route failsto complete
[13:06] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: not exactly. You need to arrive to a situation where primary & extended partitions do not overlap
[13:06] <f00li5h> oesse: and what were you setting up to access the mail?
[13:06] <MikeSeth> hey f00li5h
[13:06] <f00li5h> MikeSeth: oh, hai
[13:06] <f00li5h> MikeSeth: how goes it?
[13:06] <MikeSeth> g0r8y: and you cant ping 10.0.0.1?
[13:07] <g0r8y> nope
[13:07] <oesse> f00li5h: in postfix of course
[13:07] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: Is there a way, not to waste time, to be able to delete all unstable partitions, and keep the two i want?
[13:07] <f00li5h> oesse: sorry?
[13:07] <oesse> f00li5h: but maybe i need your help
[13:07] <oesse> ;-)
[13:07] <jockl> hi, i'm trying to configure my wlan with mn-applet. when i enter the WPA2 key it works fine. but my key is always changed to a number, so i have to retype the key or it doens't work
[13:07] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: yes, but that wont solve your problem, you need to rearrange the primary & secondary partitions
[13:07] <f00li5h> oesse: how are you trying to read the mail?
[13:07] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: also, I suspect, /dev/sda5 is not functional - it overlaps with /dev/sda1
[13:08] <Jmac_18> defconner & milligan_: it's still broked'd
[13:08] <EvaLuaTe> could someone please help me configure my wireless connection? i isn't listed in the 'Network Settings' window
[13:08] <oesse> f00li5h: i want to read the mail by web with sqwebmail
[13:08] <Jmac_18> just like the piggy from invader zim
[13:08] <wols> EvaLuaTe: what wlan chip?
[13:08] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: strike my last, not paying attention
[13:08] <f00li5h> Jmac_18: where'd the last piggy go?
[13:08] <Jmac_18> if you don't help me i will go get in the room w/ a moose
[13:08] <milligan_> Jmac_18, what did you do to fix it ?
[13:08] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: sda5 is worthless.
[13:08] <Jmac_18> i went to the terminal and ran
[13:08] <ParaZite> http://www.howtoforge.com
[13:08] <oesse> f00li5h: i want postfix and sqwebmail work togheter
[13:09] <Jmac_18> the apt-get to install network manager and it installed
[13:09] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: wait let me reread
[13:09] <Jmac_18> but nothing connects
[13:09] <kannon> hi
[13:09] <milligan_> Jmac_18, did you reboot/configure your network?
[13:09] <f00li5h> oesse: do you run IMAP/POP anyway?
[13:09] <IdleOne> Jmac_18: now try restarting the ubuntu machine
[13:09] <oesse> f00li5h: imap
[13:09] <f00li5h> oesse: 'cause yo ushould be able to plug any webmail into that
[13:09] <g0r8y> MikeSeth: Does my route output look wierd? should gateway be *?
[13:09] <Jmac_18> milligan_: how do i configure?
[13:10] <f00li5h> if it doesn't like the mboxes, dont tell it about them
[13:10] <MikeSeth> g0r8y: no. Paste output of iwconfig ath0
[13:10] <Jmac_18> milligan_: i'm on a school network, it's a wired network
[13:10] <oesse> f00li5h: how_???
[13:10] <EvaLuaTe> wols: i don't know, it's an Asus X51RL laptop, and ubuntu says that the device drivers are 'Atheros Hardware Access Layer' and 'Support for Atheros 802.11 wireless LAN cards.'
[13:10] <milligan_> Jmac_18, press the computer at the top of your desktop, then press "manual configuration". Then go from there.
[13:10] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: My idea is the following(?), to delete the partitions i don't need, and set sda6(ubuntu) as boot
[13:10] <f00li5h> oesse: tell your webmail to connect to the IMAP server
[13:10] <oesse> f00li5h: ho but HOW??? there is no documentation about it
[13:11] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: you need to rearrange order of the partition table
[13:11] <Jmac_18> milligan_: the computers went away when i tried to install wicd
[13:11] <milligan_> Jmac_18, they should be back if you reinstall network manager and booted?
[13:11] <milligan_> (rebooted)
[13:11] <IdleOne> wols: I have same card. would be great help if you can get it working for me too
[13:11] <g0r8y> MikeSeth: Will do, but have to type it so will brb
[13:11] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: Can i do this without loosing the data inside the partitions?
[13:11] <kannon> hello, i have a 1.5GB RAM on mi pc but ubuntu only show 900MB, is this normal?
[13:11] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: the way it's built now, you have a hole in the extended partition through which a primary one is sticking out
[13:11] <f00li5h> oesse: perhpas you should use a webmail that isn't designed to be run with another MTA, there are plenty of webmails that will speak IMAP
[13:11] <kannon> i have xen in this server
[13:11] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: you can, in Linux, but I cant guarantee that Windows wont break if its drive name changes
[13:12] <Jmac_18> milligan_: nope :'( and the school is capping my download at like 177bps which is slowing it down soooo bad
[13:12] <oesse> f00li5h: so what do you suggest?
[13:12] <MikeSeth> g0r8y: the line with ESS ID is enough
[13:12] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: I have no intentions to install or anything related to windows.
[13:12] <smelia1> ﻿﻿﻿f00li5h : i did remote ( linux in Xp ) but how i do it linux in linux ? ( desktop remote )
[13:12] <wols> oesse: where are your mails stored when received? ie did you configure postfix for maildir?
[13:12] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: So, where should i start reading?
[13:12] <milligan_> Jmac_18, configure it manually.
[13:12] <kannon> hello, i have a 1.5GB RAM on mi pc but ubuntu only show  900MB, is this normal?
[13:13] <f00li5h> oesse: mmindunno, try squirrelmail, horde  have a look in apt-cache search webmail
[13:13] <wols> kannon: no. which kernel version?
[13:13] <zSoilworker> kannon: Do you have a onboard vga card?
[13:13] <f00li5h> smelia1: you want to vnc from one to the other, yes?
[13:13]  * zSoilworker onboard and card is just for fun(?)
[13:13] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: reading, I'm not sure, but play with sfdisk to get a sense of how the partition table is arranged. I bet gparted is confused because /dev/sda2 is stuck in the middle of /dev/sda1
[13:13] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: il stfudisk then.
[13:14] <kannon> yes i have onboard vga but in the bios set only 32MB, the kernel version is Linux Server 2.6.24-19-xen #1
[13:14] <tsuna27> in ubuntu where is the temperory foldar located
[13:14] <Pici> tsuna27: /tmp
[13:14] <kannon> on AMD 64
[13:14] <favro> kannon: sudo lshw will give you details on that
[13:14] <wols> oesse: squirrelmail or roundcube
[13:14] <smelia1> ﻿﻿﻿f00li5h : yes i used remote desktop viewer and when i do connect find i found the other computer name but when i connect it say ( connection to host was closed )
[13:14] <wols> kannon: more info needed. uname -a
[13:14] <f00li5h> smelia1: there is one on ubuntu too
[13:14] <EvaLuaTe> wols: ... ?
[13:14] <oesse> f00li5h: any idea on how to install gnome desktop manager on ubuntu??
[13:15] <smelia1> ﻿f00li5h:im using ubuntu ( desktop and laptop are ubuntu hard )
[13:15] <wols> EvaLuaTe: madwifi
[13:15] <wols> !wlan | EvaLuaTe
[13:15] <f00li5h> oesse: it was there when I started my ubuntu...
[13:15] <wols> f00li5h: install ubuntu-desktop?
[13:15] <jockl> hi, i'm trying to configure my wlan with mn-applet. when i enter the WPA2 key it works fine. but my key is always changed to a number, so i have to retype the key or it doens't work. any help?
[13:15] <f00li5h> smelia1: so Menu->System->Preferences->Remote Desktop   on the one you want to connect to
[13:15] <EvaLuaTe> wols: i been there, but like i said, the wireless interface isn't listed in the 'Network Setings' window
[13:15] <smelia1> ﻿f00li5h:i did
[13:15] <f00li5h> wols: old disk is old, it just did it
[13:16] <f00li5h> smelia1: enable the options in there
[13:16] <kannon> wols, Linux Server 2.6.24-19-xen #1 SMP Sat Jul 12 00:15:59 UTC 2008 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[13:16] <wols> EvaLuaTe: and it won't until you load the proper driver
[13:16] <wise_tamas> bye all, 'twas just a quick look :-)
[13:16] <EvaLuaTe> wols: so i have to load the madwifi driver?
[13:17] <oesse> f00li5h: apt-get intall gnome-desktop-environment does not work
[13:17] <oesse> some problem with keyring-manager
[13:17] <kannon> favro, *-memory:0
[13:17] <kannon>           description: System Memory
[13:17] <kannon>           physical id: e
[13:17] <kannon>           slot: System board or motherboard
[13:17] <kannon>           size: 1536MiB
[13:18] <FloodBot2> kannon: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:18] <g0r8y> Mikeseth: http://pastebin.com/m24a6b66a too late :) this problem is just the same with my wired interface  btw
[13:18] <f00li5h> smelia1: then apt-get install vncviewer
[13:18] <kannon> FloodBot1, Sorry
[13:18] <smelia1> ﻿f00li5h: ok im trying
[13:18] <defconner> kannon: no need to apologize, he's a robot
[13:18] <wols> kannon: output of "free"
[13:19] <wols> oesse: install ubuntu-desktop and patebin errors
[13:19] <favro> kannon: so the system has 1.5G ram then
[13:19] <kannon> total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[13:19] <kannon> Mem:        945152     647588     297564          0      43496     459184
[13:19] <kannon> but free show 900
[13:20] <oesse> wols: i'm on ubuntu server
[13:20] <oesse> wols: how can install the desktop on the server? Is it possible??
[13:20] <kannon> favro, total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[13:20] <kannon> Mem:        945152     647588     297564          0      43496     459184
[13:20] <smelia1> ﻿f00li5h : what after ﻿apt-get install vncviewer
[13:20] <defconner> oesse: yes, the 'desktop' is just a meta collection of packages
[13:20] <IdleOne> !pastebin | kannon
[13:20] <favro> kannon:  what's on the  -/+ buffers/cache: line?
[13:21] <f00li5h> smelia1: start vncviewer
[13:21] <oesse> defconner: ok, how? Apt-get???
[13:21] <smelia1> ﻿f00li5h: i want control the laptop from desktop i did remote on in laptop and off in desktop
[13:21] <_NiC> Is /env/environment supposed to be read by a root-login (sudo su -)? Because mine isn't :-\
[13:21] <smelia1> ﻿f00li5h : how to start it
[13:21] <defconner> oesse: someone else may know the exact package, but i believe it is ubuntu-desktop
[13:21] <g0r8y> Sry for the spam gonna post my problem again
[13:21] <f00li5h> smelia1: once you install it, an icon should turn up in the menus, or you can start it from a shell
[13:21] <corey> can anyone tell me how to install my sound drivers
[13:21] <oesse> defconner: ok, works. installing
[13:21] <_NiC> Same goes for /etc/manpath.config
[13:22] <seiya> I have a Compaq F500 laptop running Ubuntu. A couple of times a day it completely freezes up. No mouse, no keyboard, can't ctrl+alt+backspace, or anything like that. I have booted my laptop with the "noapic nolapic acpi=off pnpbios=off" boot options. I'm not exactly sure what means but when I boot using those I don't get the freezing. This can't be a permanent solution because with these boot options Ubuntu doesn't detect my battery, I can't lower my screen
[13:22] <seiya> brightness, my fans sound like they're running at full speed, and my wireless no longer works. I think it might be the proprietary Nvidia or Broadcom drivers I'm using. I have tried both the Nvidia driver included in the default repositories and the updated one with EnvyNG and I get the lock-ups with both. This computer had been running 7.04 flawlessly, so I'm thinking about trying 7.10. Anyone have any other solution I could try before giving up on 8.04?
[13:22] <Pici> _NiC: You shouldnt be using sudo su - , use sudo -i if you need an interactive root session.
[13:22] <kannon> favro, sorry ,I do not understand
[13:22] <oesse> i still have the problem with webmail and postfix, shit!
[13:22] <smelia1> ﻿f00li5h: Connection to host "jassim-laptop.local:5900" was closed.
[13:22] <f00li5h> smelia1: sounds like power management issues with your laptop
[13:22] <IdleOne> !ohmy > oesse
[13:22] <g0r8y> Everytime i get dhcp'ed (on  wired or wireless interfaces) an address nothing from that network is reachable. This problem isnt affecting other clients on the same network so I belive its some kind of routeing problem but dont have much exp troubleshooting that. Could some one gimme  a hand? output of ip route and route here http://pastebin.com/m6b2b6385 although route on its own hangs
[13:23] <_NiC> pici, still doesn't work though.
[13:23] <smelia1> ﻿f00li5h : but from my laptop i can control windows xp thats in desktop
[13:23] <f00li5h> smelia1: i'm confused
[13:23] <_NiC> pici, I've installed mysql from a binary-package into /usr/local/mysql, and have thus added /usr/local/mysql/bin to PATH and /usr/local/mysql/man as a manpath-mapping in /etc/manpath.config
[13:24] <f00li5h> smelia1: you are now running ubunto on your desktop (that used to run windows)?
[13:24] <smelia1> ﻿f00li5h : im runing Ubuntu on my desktop and my laptop ( i want control laptop from desktop ) my desktop remote is off now and on in laptop
[13:25] <g0r8y> Ill try after lunch me thinks
[13:25] <f00li5h> smelia1: so, you have enabled remote control lon the laptop?
[13:26] <smelia1> ﻿f00li5h : yeah
[13:26] <f00li5h> smelia1: and you have vncviewer on the desktop?
[13:26] <smelia1> ﻿f00li5h : yeah is it remote desktop viewer right?
[13:26] <f00li5h> smelia1: sure
[13:26] <Pici> _NiC: try sudo -s then
[13:27] <MikeSeth> g0r8y: and that is the correct WLAN? ytl_east?
[13:27] <_NiC> pici, still not working. I'll google a bit.
[13:27] <smelia1> ﻿f00li5h : i went to connect >> host find and i found my laptop but when i connect to it i got this Connection to host "jassim-laptop.local:5900" was closed.
[13:28] <MikeSeth> g0r8y: also pay attention to this: "rx invalid nwid:13615"
[13:28] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: I could really use a hand.
[13:28] <f00li5h> did the laptop ask if it should allow the user to connect?
[13:28] <lemon> hi everybody, i've heared about the possibility to install linux on a ps2, i'm very interested on it, i have some computers hard drives, keyboards, processors, graphic card, etc, is possible with all this hardware install linux on it?
[13:28] <rom1v> hi
[13:28] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: I reaaaaally don't feel like getting 30dvds back in my hd.
[13:29] <rom1v> could 7z integrated by default in ubuntu?
[13:29] <MikeSeth> g0r8y: is your card ar52xx?
[13:29] <rom1v> to decompress (or compress) .7z files (open source format, very good compression)
[13:30] <rom1v> for the moment, people have to install p7zip
[13:30] <rom1v> not installed by default
[13:30] <spasticteapot> My Wine install is not working properly. I can install and uninstall programs and run .exe files, but I cannot access my "C:\" drive or any installed programs.
[13:30] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: first, use sfdisk to make a copy of the partition table
[13:30] <spasticteapot> Any suggestions?
[13:30] <smelia1> ﻿f00li5h : laptop remote desktop prefrece >> allow other to view desktop and allow to control it thats what i marked  / in advanced i marked only allow local connection + use an alternative port 5900
[13:30] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: save it somewhere aside
[13:30] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: Aside, like in a cd?
[13:30] <favro> kannon: in terminal - the command free has a line that starts  -/+ buffers/cache: - it tells about the mem better
[13:30] <MikeSeth> spasticteapot: define "can't access"
[13:30] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: or a flash disk
[13:31] <kannon> ok
[13:31] <spasticteapot> MikeSeth: URL "./~wine.drive_C" is not supported.
[13:31] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: you want sfdisk -d
[13:31] <haughty> yet another quick noob question. I've dl easyIO for java.. and Im trying to set the enviromental vars with java -cp path  .. but the java file just lists up all the options, same with javac .. either with -cp or -classpath. Im trying to point it to easyIO.jar .. am I doing this all wrong ?
[13:31] <kannon> favro,  -/+ buffers/cache:     148384     796768
[13:31] <EvaLuaTe> my wireless adapter isn't listed if i type 'ifconfig', what should i do for it to get listed there please?
[13:31] <MikeSeth> spasticteapot: that's not a correct URL, you probably want ~/.wine/drive_C
[13:31] <icedwater> Hi, how do I identify which of the devices is connected to which port?
[13:32] <spasticteapot> And none of the installed programs (all freeware speaker design software) is not listed.
[13:32] <spasticteapot> MikeSeth: My typo.
[13:32] <icedwater> I need to identify which /dev/tty* my serial interface is connected to.
[13:32] <JMAC_17> defconner:
[13:32] <JMAC_17> ?
[13:33] <ubuntu_> guys do you know any which is the greek ubuntu channel?
[13:33] <MikeSeth> ubuntu_: probably #ubuntu-gr
[13:33] <MikeSeth> spasticteapot: then?
[13:33] <ubuntu_> thnx
[13:33] <IdleOne> !gr
[13:33] <cyste> bonjour
[13:33] <spasticteapot> MikeSeth: Well...that's it.
[13:33] <IdleOne> !fr
[13:33] <ubuntu_> ;)
[13:33] <defconner> JMAC_17:  yes?
[13:33] <MikeSeth> spasticteapot: so you get an error.. from what? and what does it say?
[13:33] <spasticteapot> I can't access my C drive, and can't access my programs (they're normally in the same menu of the XFCE launcher as the WINE options.)
[13:34] <JMAC_17> defconner: i found the network manager as a .tar.gz and extracted, how can i install it?
[13:34] <spasticteapot> MikeSeth: Failed to open URL "...."
[13:34] <rom1v> in launchpad, how to make a "wish"?
[13:34] <MikeSeth> you should be able to access your C drive through ~/.wine, as of launchers, I dont know
[13:34] <defconner> JMAC_17: you probably want the .deb instead
[13:34] <JMAC_17> k, thxs
[13:34] <zSoilworker> spasticteapot: what are the permissions in home/myname/.wine/?
[13:34] <defconner> JMAC_17: then, dpkg -i file.dpkg
[13:35] <defconner> oops
[13:35] <IdleOne> JMAC_17: packages.ubuntu.com has all the files you need. download the .deb file and use dpkg -i package-name.deb to install
[13:35] <defconner> JMAC_17: dpkg -i file.deb
[13:35] <JMAC_17> defconner: not there, only diff.gz and .dsc
[13:35] <spasticteapot> zSoilworker: Lemme check.
[13:35] <JMAC_17> idleone: k i'll try there
[13:35] <defconner> JMAC_17: you're looking at the source package, you want the binary
[13:36] <zSoilworker> spasticteapot: also, try running $ wineboot
[13:36] <IdleOne> JMAC_17: remember to change directory to where the .deb is saved. probably cd Desktop
[13:36] <spasticteapot> drwxr-xr-x
[13:36] <spasticteapot> I can't remember what that means ATM.
[13:36] <JMAC_17> i ya'll check your synaptics under networking, what packages do you have installed?
[13:37] <JMAC_17> *if ya'll
[13:37] <favro> kannon: it looks like you're using alot of mem - the system been up a while?
[13:37] <spasticteapot> I didn't get any sleep - I had a latte at 9PM, and it packed a wallop!
[13:37] <Coranga> Hello
[13:37] <zSoilworker> spasticteapot: $ wineboot
[13:37] <gaurav> can any one tell me how can i play the online songs here in linux
[13:37] <spasticteapot> zSoilworker: No good.
[13:37] <spasticteapot> I can just open the app manually, though - no big deal.
[13:37] <spasticteapot> I think it's a Xubuntu bug.
[13:37] <zSoilworker> spasticteapot: sudo mousepad /usr/share/applications/wine-browsedrive.desktop
[13:38] <zSoilworker> spasticteapot:  change the line Exec=xdg-open ~/.wine/drive_c
[13:38] <zSoilworker> spasticteapot: to Exec=xdg-open /home/your_user_name/.wine/drive_c
[13:38] <gaurav> can anyone tell me i am not able to play the live songs
[13:38] <IdleOne> JMAC_17: dpkg - i will tell you what other files are needed if any and report it back to you as an error
[13:38] <freakazoid> anyone wanna help me ? im trying to work out how to setup a SOCKS proxy on my ubuntu machine, so i can use it from my windows machine ?
[13:38] <Coranga> @gaurav explain it better pls
[13:38] <spasticteapot> zSoilworker: It seems to be written in a language I don't understand.
[13:38] <IdleOne> JMAC_17: that is dpkg -i ( the command ) hehe not I as in me
[13:38] <spasticteapot> Possibly sweedish.
[13:39] <gaurav> dear my prob is when i try to play the songs from the site imeem i am not able to open that player and can't listen the songs online
[13:39] <zSoilworker> spasticteapot: What?
[13:39] <JMAC_17> idleone: i have intel would that be the i386 architecture?
[13:39] <IdleOne> yes
[13:39] <spasticteapot> zSoilworker: Not kidding.
[13:39] <zSoilworker> spasticteapot: just enter the command
[13:39] <Coranga> gaurav: do you mean play songs in your browser or over ssh ?
[13:39] <zSoilworker> spasticteapot: and change those lines.
[13:39] <spasticteapot> What lines?
[13:40] <gaurav> browser
[13:40] <gaurav> in firfox
[13:40] <Coranga> gaurav: allright good start
[13:40] <freakazoid> anyone wanna help me ? im trying to work out how to setup a SOCKS proxy on my ubuntu machine, so i can use it from my windows machine ?
[13:40] <zSoilworker> spasticteapot: sudo mousepad /usr/share/applications/wine-browsedrive.desktop and change "Exec=xdg-open ~/.wine/drive_c " to "Exec=xdg-open /home/your_user_name/.wine/drive_c"
[13:40] <gaurav> pardon me
[13:40] <TurboBee> you've been pardoned
[13:40] <adilson> how do i purge idesk from my system?
[13:40] <zSoilworker> spasticteapot: remember to change your name, and loose the "
[13:41] <Coranga> gaurav: can you take the link from the sound file and give it direkt to your player ?
[13:41] <IdleOne> JMAC_17: if other files are needed, same process as before download and use dpkg -i filename.deb filename2.deb filename3.deb
[13:41] <gaurav> dear's it's all in the flash player format
[13:41] <The-Compiler> I want to change my bootsplash, but I get tons of warnings like "usplash_1024_768.png.c:49356: warning: large integer implicitly truncated to unsigned type"
[13:41] <shakaboom> everytime i start up my windows dont have the top bar, i then reload my windowmanager (compiz) and it's ok again
[13:41] <gaurav> and i am having the flash plugin installl
[13:41] <shakaboom> but this is really annoying
[13:41] <Coranga> gaurav: ok thx fr more information
[13:41] <spasticteapot> zSoilworker: Still no good.
[13:41] <Coranga> -.-
[13:41] <shakaboom> any idea how to fix it more permanently?
[13:41] <spasticteapot> I'm not worrying about it - I can open the EXEs manually.
[13:41] <gaurav> my pleasure
[13:42] <zSoilworker> spasticteapot: wait a little.
[13:42] <JMAC_17> idleone: i'm not having to use the terminal it is using something called package installer
[13:42] <Coranga> gaurav: so i guess your flashmovies wont start ?
[13:42] <IdleOne> JMAC_17: ok it is auto installing. good
[13:42] <shakaboom> (i have the fusion icon installed, before that the problem did not exist)
[13:42] <gaurav> yes
[13:42] <Coranga> gaurav: did you aktuall try another browser, like opera ?
[13:42] <JMAC_17> idleone: now that it has auto installed how can i check and see?
[13:43] <JMAC_17> idleone: if i need anything else?
[13:43] <gaurav> nope
[13:43] <gaurav> dey all slowdown the system
[13:43] <IdleOne> JMAC_17: if it did not ask for any other packages ( issue warning/ error ) then you don't
[13:43] <gaurav> http://www.imeem.com/exiledvg/playlist/qwBmcsTY/vs_bollywood_mix_music_playlist/               can any one tell me how can i play this songs
[13:43] <zSoilworker> spasticteapot: Try now.
[13:43] <Coranga> gaurav: i had same prob the last time, it works with opera and after reboot in firefox as well
[13:43] <JMAC_17> idleone: YAY!!!
[13:44] <JMAC_17> idleone: should i reboot before pluggin into the wired?
[13:44] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: figured it yet?
[13:44] <spasticteapot> zSoilworker: No good.
[13:44] <gaurav> opera conist of the quicktime
[13:44] <zSoilworker> spasticteapot: reboot
[13:44] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: I'm still reading the man
[13:44] <IdleOne> JMAC_17: you can if you like but probably don't need to
[13:44] <gaurav> now my player either need realplayer or  windows player
[13:45] <Coranga> gaurav: download the moviw and play the movie on your local machine
[13:45] <JMAC_17> idleone: i still don't have the network manager icons in my top panel
[13:45] <JMAC_17> :'(
[13:45] <favro> !realplayer
[13:45] <Coranga> gaurav: good plugin for that is DownloadHelper
[13:45] <gaurav> sir i can't downlaod songs
[13:46] <gaurav> have u seen the link
[13:46] <Coranga> yes oO
[13:46] <gaurav> which i send here
[13:46] <JMAC_17> idleone: ok #ubuntu i'll brb!
[13:46] <IdleOne> JMAC_17: right click on the top panel and Add to panel
[13:46] <gaurav> can u listen the songs
[13:46] <gaurav> can u play the files
[13:46] <Coranga> gaurav: didnt try
[13:46] <gaurav> try once u will understand my prob exactly
[13:46] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: it says that the extended partition doesnt start in a cylinder limit
[13:46] <IdleOne> JMAC_17: scroll down to the network manager and add it to your panel
[13:46] <gaurav> can any one tell do real player works with linux
[13:46] <Coranga> gaurav: i wont click on any link you send to me
[13:47] <gaurav> well never mind
[13:47] <kannon> favro, i using xen in this machine....
[13:47] <haughty> Im trying to add a classpath to java / javac, and Im trying with java -classpath PATH/file.jar  but java just throws up the list of options.. SUN says this is the way to do it, but I cant get it to work.. anyone got any ideas on where my errors are ? thanks in advance =)
[13:47] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: what does?
[13:47] <gaurav> REAL PLAYER ???? please tell me something about it Thankx in Advance
[13:48] <Coranga> gaurav: download and set it up
[13:48] <osfameron> gaurav: if you googled for real player, you'll see that it has a linux version.   You could download it and see if it works for you
[13:48] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: sfdisk -l /dev/sda
[13:48] <osfameron> istr it works for me, though I avoid it, as I hated it from my windows days
[13:48] <gaurav> i did that also even i did for skype both dosen't worked for me
[13:48] <osfameron> but it's better for streams than VLC (which is just rubbish with the error (non)reporting)
[13:49] <osfameron> gaurav: skype works fine for me.  Well, "fine" not exactly, as linux audio works or doesn't according to its own special rules. But it often works fine
[13:49] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: it's right
[13:49] <Coranga> gaurav: there is still a packege for ubuntu
[13:49] <gaurav> what is the skype geting
[13:49] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: you need to rearrange partitions so that there are no holes inside the extended partition ahd that the primary doesnt overlap with it
[13:49] <gaurav> can anyone give me the tips thankx in advance
[13:50] <favro> kannon: seems you have the full 1.5G mem showing - xen might be throwing you off
[13:50] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: I get the point, i miss the how.
[13:50] <MikeSeth> gaurav: please google "install skype ubuntu"
[13:50] <IdleOne> !skype > gaurav
[13:50] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: my advice here would be draw a current map on the piece of paper
[13:50] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: you will soon see where the conflict is
[13:51] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: I see the conflict, and i now what to do, i just don't know how.
[13:51] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: I need to get the partitions in order
[13:51] <gaurav> i can not view the youtube vidows and how shall i play youtube vidows online and how can i download dem
[13:51] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: i have sda3 and sd4 empty, so there's the proble
[13:51] <Jmac_16> idleone: i'm back and this time from my laptop
[13:51] <IdleOne> MikeSeth: he needs help using gparted or wh in fixing the partitionsatever you are going to guide him with
[13:51] <Jmac_16> it fixed it !!
[13:51] <Jmac_16> yay
[13:51] <Coranga> So i have a Problem too, i have a gnome-desktop and since a week there are no symbols any more just black, solution?
[13:52] <IdleOne> Jmac_16: glad to see you back. congrats on fixing your system yourself :)
[13:52] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: they arent empty, they dont exist
[13:52] <Coranga> gaurav: If you wanna download flashvideos then get the firefox plugin DownloadHelper !!!
[13:52] <Jmac_16> idleone: thxs
[13:52] <freakazoid> anyone wanna help me ? im trying to work out how to setup a SOCKS proxy on my ubuntu machine, so i can use it from my windows machine ?
[13:52] <MikeSeth> IdleOne: I dont understand what you just said
[13:52] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: so i should "order" them
[13:52] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: either way, the simplest thing I can think of is this
[13:52] <IdleOne> MikeSeth: yeah I see why. sorry
[13:53] <Jmac_16> idleone: i though  i was gonna have to wait on the live cd to finish downloading whic wouldve kiilled m
[13:53] <Jmac_16> e
[13:53] <IdleOne> MikeSeth: he needsa a hand hold. he does not know how to fix his partitions
[13:53] <Jmac_16> idleone: they started capping downloads at 177kbs to slow pirates
[13:53] <MikeSeth> IdleOne: I know.
[13:53] <Jmac_16> :E
[13:53] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: in short
[13:53] <zSoilworker> Coranga: please, open a terminal, and paste a)  ~$ gnome-session-remove gnome-panel b) ~$ gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel c) ~$ gnome-panel &
[13:53] <IdleOne> MikeSeth: :)
[13:53] <gaurav> dear for download one need to see the things which i am not able to see the videos itself i mean to say i can't view the players
[13:53] <Coranga> zSoilworker: thx ill try it
[13:54] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: what I would do is delete sda1, and create a smaller extended partition on sda1 which covers the physical space before the beginning of sda2
[13:54] <IdleOne> MikeSeth: touchpad and wifi mouse both enabled at same time. Joy!
[13:54] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: then I would create sda3, which begins after end of sda2 and covers the rest of the disk
[13:54] <gaurav> anyhelp please
[13:55] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: so, /dev/sda5 would become a part of /dev/sda1, and sda6-8 will become sda3
[13:55] <adilson> how do i remove idesk from source ive just tried sudo make distclean but it is still installed?
[13:55] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: i'll start by deleting sda1
[13:55] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: can i do this with cfdisk?
[13:56] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: since sda1 will only contain sda5, maybe it makes sense to create sda1 as a primary partition with the same size as current sda5
[13:56] <Jmac_16> idleone:i think i figured out how to get the icon back,
[13:56] <Jmac_16> idleone: i installed the gnome frontend for network manager
[13:56] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: probably, but I cant guarantee it will behave correctly
[13:56] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: Wait, i'm getting confused, i'll start by deleting sda1
[13:56] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: your best bet would be editing a copy of the partition table dump and load it back with sfdisk (see also sfdisk -n)
[13:56] <Jmac_16> idleone: so now my wired connections work but not my wifi
[13:57] <Adakos> morning folks,  im putting together a server for home (media, ftp, apache(2), gnump3d, doing some workhorse encoding) does anyone have a list of  server (rackmount or otherwise) motherboards that are 100% compatible with ubuntu 8.04x server ?
[13:57] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: delete sda1, delete sda5, create sda1 as a primary partition with address and size of old sda5
[13:57] <IdleOne> Jmac_16: if you right click on the top panel and click Add to panel you will find a network monitor in the list and you can add it to the panel
[13:57] <Jmac_16> idleone: this is getting crazy i think i'm gonna do a clean install this weekend
[13:57] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: then create sda3 beginning at old sda6 and ending at old sda8 (end of disk)
[13:57] <Jmac_16> idleone: that thing doesn't do squat
[13:58] <MikeSeth> zSoilworker: I assume you have a livecd or other means to boot the box, right/
[13:58] <Jmac_16> idleone: it just lets me look at stuff and if i click configure it tells me that the device doesn't exist
[13:58] <Coranga> gaurav: you dont need to see the player for downloading
[13:58] <IdleOne> Jmac_16: install wifi-radar from synaptic
[13:58] <Jmac_16> idleone: like this error "could not find information interface 'eth1:avahi" in /proc/net/dev
[13:59] <adilson> how do i remove idesk from source ive just tried sudo make distclean but it is still installed?
[13:59] <cpineda> hello
[13:59] <Jmac_16> idleone: how do i get wifi-radar from synaptics? sauce?
[14:00] <IdleOne> Jmac_16: use Synaptic package Manager in Administration Tab or sudo apt-get install wifi-radar
[14:00] <Adakos> morning folks,  im putting together a server for home - does anyone have a list of server-grade motherboards that are 100% compatible with ubuntu 8.04x ? (server)
[14:00] <NewUser> hello all :-) new Ubuntu user here. Im pretty impressed so far :-) I'm having a small problem with flash though
[14:00] <Adakos> NewUser: ask and ye shall receive
[14:01] <NewUser> thanks Adakos
[14:01] <gaurav> dear i am saying that when u open the youtube site and where the vidows are being displayed i am not able to preview that vidos as well as em not able to run the video
[14:01] <hateball> Is there any way to make Evolution not open the next mail in the folder after deleting one?
[14:01] <NewUser> i am able to get sites that rely on flash, but not Youtube, it just comes up white
[14:01] <adilson> can someoen help me remove idesk from source please?
[14:01] <Jmac_16> newuser: i'm having the same trouble
[14:01] <Adakos> NewUser: what version of flash are you using?
[14:02] <NewUser> now, i thought id be clever by installing the plugin from synaptic like my friend said that i should be able to
[14:02] <zSoilworker> MikeSeth: Whatever God wants(?), i'll be right back
[14:02] <Pici> Adakos: You may want to ask in #ubuntu-server if anyone has had bad issues with particular motherboards.
[14:02] <roger_padactor> hello, where is it set where localhost points to a specific folder, how can i set up so i can have web.localhost point to one folder and web2.localhost point to another?
[14:02] <Adakos> thank Pici
[14:02] <NewUser> it had something about gnash in it lol
[14:02] <NewUser> not sure if that helps
[14:02] <gaurav>  dear i am saying that when u open the youtube site and where the vidows are being displayed i am not able to preview that vidos as well as em not able to run the video
[14:02] <Jmac_16> newuser: i've also tried installing the flashplugin-nonfree
[14:02] <Pici> adilson: have you tried 'make remove' or 'make uninstall'?
[14:02] <Jmac_16> newuser: in firefox?
[14:02] <NewUser> oh ok Jmac_16
[14:02] <NewUser> yes
[14:03] <gaurav> hew newuser i am also havign the same probs
[14:03] <NewUser> ah ok, great so it's not only me :-), this is good news
[14:03] <adilson> Pici:: no just tried make distclean as that what it said on the install readme file but will try
[14:03] <gaurav> and since long i am trying to get it's solotion
[14:03] <matthias1> ähm was muss ich eingeben da mit ich in den gentoo channel komme?
[14:03] <NewUser> do all you other guys find that other flash sites work besides YouTube?
[14:03] <adilson> Pici, dot go anywahere
[14:03] <racle> how i get terminal to panel
[14:03] <freakazoid> anyone wanna help me ? im trying to work out how to setup a SOCKS proxy on my ubuntu machine, so i can use it from my windows machine ?
[14:04] <Jmac_16> newuser: everyone says to install flashplugin-nonfree
[14:04] <gaurav> even i am not able to see the youtube vidos dey are also white
[14:04] <NewUser> (mozilla-plugin-gnash is what i installed btw)
[14:04] <NewUser> right, will try that, thanks!
[14:04] <Jmac_16> newuser: i haven't tried gnash yet i'm gonna try it thxs lol
[14:05] <NewUser> i was very impressed that it picked up my LAN and WLAN drivers automatically, not even Windows does that
[14:05] <zSoilworker> Well, that wen't well, i did nothing.
[14:06] <Jmac_16> newuser: lol yeah i just spent 35 minutes getting mine to pick them up
[14:06] <Coranga> zSoilworker: it doesnt worked, it just reconfigured my panels to default
[14:06] <Jmac_16> newuser: i accidently deleted them
[14:07] <Jmac_16> newuseR: :-/
[14:07] <adilson> Pici, this is what i get on any command - make: *** No rule to make target `uninstall'. Stop. - this is after running distclean but it is still there, i want its dependancies and all to be removed
[14:07] <zSoilworker> Coranga: I'm sorry, what was your problem again?
[14:07] <NewUser> oh wow, Jmac_16, maybe i got lucky!
[14:07] <Coranga> zSoilworker: this black Desktop, no symbols, no mouse menu
[14:08] <freakazoid> anyone wanna help me ? im trying to work out how to setup a SOCKS proxy on my ubuntu machine, so i can use it from my windows machine ?
[14:08] <erUSUL> adilson: not all Makefiles have an uninstall target/option
[14:08] <Jmac_16> newuser: it was fine at firs it wasn't until i tried to mess w/ stuff that i broke it lol
[14:09] <Jmac_16> newuser: i'm a windows power user so i though i kinda knew what i was doing, i was WAY  off base
[14:09] <pro-rsoft> Hi, I have a computer running apache on the network here, but from my linux laptop i can connect to it fine but from a windows computer the server does not respond. What could be wrong?
[14:09] <gaintsura> hey all, I have a toshiba laptop A215 series that has a chicony camera built in, has anyone gotten <any> chicony camera to work and with what software?
[14:09] <zSoilworker> Coranga: What happens if you create a new user?
[14:09] <Jmac_16> how do i install something from the archive manager?!
[14:10] <adilson> erUSUL: ok but now how do i compeletly purge idesk from my system without an unninstall (this was installed from source)
[14:10] <mirrorcolor> hi, i am having problems recording from my inspiron 6400 mic, any idea?
[14:10] <jockl> hi, i'm trying to configure my wlan with mn-applet. when i enter the WPA2 key it works fine. but my key is always changed to a number, so i have to retype the key or it doens't work. any help?
[14:10] <erUSUL> adilson: you will have to do it by hand ... removing the files from (hopefully) /usr/local/ directories
[14:11] <erUSUL> !checkinstall |  adilson in the future →
[14:11] <gaintsura> jockl: get the hexadecimal version of the key, input that next time and it should keep you from having to do it so often
[14:11] <favro> Jmac_16: double click it to unpack it then double click the .run or .bin file
[14:12] <He|ix> 7
[14:12] <erUSUL> !software > Jmac_16
[14:12] <adilson> erUSUL: using command whereis gives me usr/local/bin/idesk but that is all it wont unninstall dependancies and thanx for the info didnt know that "funny enough idesk 1.7.5 is already in synapic :/"
[14:12] <Coranga> zSoilworker: i can create a new user and this user has a normal Desktop
[14:13] <zSoilworker> Coranga: you could use a new user then.
[14:13] <erUSUL> adilson: :| ... check under ../lib ../man etc
[14:13] <zSoilworker> Coranga: Have you tried deleting all your .gnome and .gconf files and reinstalling gnome?
[14:13] <zSoilworker> than* reinstalling gnome
[14:13] <Coranga> zSoilworker: This isnt the Solution i am happy with
[14:13] <wers> i kept my old gnome settings since feisty. i noticed that the default hardy settings have new stuff like playing audio when mouse hovers on the file's icon and the darkening of the background when the login window is focused. how do i get those settings?
[14:14] <adilson> erUSUL: will do so trying debfoster going to check if that picks anything
[14:14] <zSoilworker> Coranga: i meant to say, you could delete all your .gnome and .gconf files at /home/you
[14:15] <Coranga> zSoilworker: oh yes i could try this
[14:16] <PecisDarbs> hi people, I have HP Compaq nw8440 (Core Duo, 17', 1 GB memory, etc.) as my new laptop, however, I can't see built-in modem in Ubuntu. lpsci reveals nothing and nowhere in the logs appears information about it.
[14:16] <zSoilworker> Coranga: be shure to delete, .gconf, .gnome, .gnome2, and .gconfd.
[14:16] <BoltClock> i have seen screenshots of shift switcher (the windows flip/cover flow thing). how do i take my own? hitting print screen while doing it doesnt work...
[14:16] <adilson> erUSUL: is libimlib2-dev a standard in ubuntu (xubuntu in my case) or would it be installed separatly with another package?
[14:17] <erUSUL> adilson: check only under /usr/local/* you can check if a file belongs to a package doing "dpkg -S /absolute/patht/to/file"
[14:17] <Jmac_16> what?
[14:18] <Jmac_16> i'm using this weird irssi and i don't know how to switch screens
[14:18] <zSoilworker> Jmac_16: alt+x
[14:18] <Jmac_16> zsoilworker
[14:18] <adilson> erUSUL: will try
[14:18] <Jmac_16> it doesn't wiork
[14:19] <Jmac_16> work
[14:19] <zSoilworker> change x for a number.
[14:19] <Coranga> zSoilworker: ok an d how can i now reinstall gnome --> apt-get install gnome ?
[14:19] <Jmac_16> oh, thxs now i feel like a dumbass lol
[14:19] <erUSUL> Jmac_16: Alt + number
[14:19] <zSoilworker> Coranga: you delete those files, and restart session
[14:20] <Coranga> zSoilworker: ok
[14:20] <Jmac_16> thxs  erUSUL
[14:20] <Jmac_16> got your message
[14:20] <Jmac_16> how can i close windows
[14:21] <tuto> opa
[14:22] <NW2190> Hi, I have audacious installed, but it won't play any files.  Does it use gstreamer plugins or something else?
[14:22] <Pici> Jmac_16: /wc
[14:22] <Jmac_16> thxs, i loved'd you guise
[14:23] <zSoilworker> NW2190: Do you have sound in any other player?
[14:23] <skiznibbler_> has anyone here hooked their comp up to their TV?
[14:23] <Jmac_16> does anyone have youtube running?
[14:23] <Jmac_16> i kinda rly like youtube alot and it won't work
[14:23] <ushimitsudoki> skiznibbler_: i have one pc hooked up to tv
[14:23] <andycaz> I cant change my storage hdd owner to myself, instead its stuck on root. Ive tried "chown -hR andy /media/strg" but nothing, ls -l still gives me the owner is root
[14:23] <NW2190> zSoilworker, ya it works fine for banshee, rhythmbox, and amarok.
[14:23] <skiznibbler_> for some reason in Screen Resolutions it can detect Phillips 23" but the TV keeps telling me "Video mode not supported"
[14:23] <andycaz> Someone help quick...
[14:23] <Jmac_16> i have everyplugin available, vlc, gnash, mplayer, etc
[14:24] <kbrosnan> Jmac_16: uninstall gnash and install the adobe flash player
[14:24] <skiznibbler_> ushimitsudoki: did u have any trouble with screen resolutions?
[14:24] <kbrosnan> !flash | Jmac_16
[14:24] <x2o> hi, möchte ne externe festplatte hauptsächlich unter linux nutzen aber soll auch unter windows funktionieren. dabei wil ich sie mit dm-crypt verschlüsseln und unter windows zum beispiel mit otfe nutzen
[14:24] <Jmac_16> wilkomen
[14:24] <ushimitsudoki> skiznibbler_: I had a hard time with the resolutions. My TV has VGA in and I could never get it exactly right. So, I use HDMI - of course this means your video card must have DVI or HDMI out
[14:24] <x2o> welches dateisystem soll ich benutzen
[14:25] <Pici> !de | x2o
[14:25] <x2o> sry
[14:25] <roger_padactor> in the home local i create a folder how do i make it so that you don't need root access to open it.
[14:25] <skiznibbler_> ushimitsudoku: my TV has DVI-I and my laptop has VGA
[14:25] <skiznibbler_> so I used an adapter
[14:25] <Next1> My computer shuts down with no warning usually in the morning.  The system log shows this .Aug 25 08:16:24 hardy syslogd 1.5.0#1ubuntu1: restart.    I have no idea what is happening. How can I figure out what is causing this?
[14:25] <bullfroghrr> help I'm new to linux, just installed hardy heron 64 bit everything was going well for about 6 hours and then my sound quit
[14:25] <andycaz> I need help quickly... I cant change my storage hdd owner to myself, instead its stuck on root. Ive tried "chown -hR andy /media/strg" but nothing, ls -l still gives me the owner is root.
[14:27] <ushimitsudoki> skiznibbler_: hmm, well all i can say is that I never could get the VGA to match up exactly right, but the HDMI did straight way. I think this was because the TV didn't have a standard resolution that the comp supported, but i'm not sure about that
[14:27] <NW2190> roger_padactor, I think sudo chmod +r directory_name
[14:27] <roger_padactor> thanks andy for the indirect help
[14:27] <roger_padactor> NW2190,  i saw any's post and figured it out
[14:27] <roger_padactor> thanks though
[14:28] <gaintsura> anyone gotten a chicony built in camera to work and function in Hardy?
[14:28] <NW2190> roger_padactor, oh ok cool./
[14:28] <andycaz> I need help quickly... I cant change my storage hdd owner to myself, instead its stuck on root. Ive tried "chown -hR andy /media/strg" but nothing, ls -l still gives me the owner is root.
[14:29] <gaintsura> andycaz: I did chmod -R 775 /media/<location>
[14:29] <gaintsura> that gave me privs while still being able to read/write/exec
[14:30] <gaintsura> and kept it at root owner
[14:34] <bisou> l
[14:34] <bisou> QQ parle fr?
[14:35] <wols> !fr | bisou
[14:37] <jokkaa> Hey guys, does anyone know a command to force start a progg?
[14:37] <bullfroghrr> sound problems
[14:38] <bitplex> Hey, anyone point me to a useful website detailing how to set up Ubuntu to allow users to login from any machine connected to a Ubuntu server via a network and have the same desktop throughout.
[14:38] <bullfroghrr> sound quit completely
[14:38] <Pici> bitplex: Like a terminal server setup?
[14:39] <hateball> !ltsp
[14:39] <geev> i use ubuntu 8 am unable to extract xampp-linux-1.6.7.tar.gz file
[14:39]  * hateball points bitplex in the direction of LTSP
[14:40] <Pici> geev: Is there any particular reason you are install xampp instead of using the LAMP packages provided in the Ubuntu repositories?
[14:40] <bitplex> yeh
[14:40] <nesw> jokkaa: force start a program? like the opposite of kill or what?
[14:40] <bitplex> Thank you very much, again quick and useful reply's.
 i was using it when i was using windows so i worry if Lamp will not provide graphical interface as phpmyadmin was doing if it can please tell me
[14:43] <gaintsura> anyone know if there is a way to configure cheese's color/brightness?
[14:45] <djhash> geev: you can install phpmyadmin on Lamp
[14:45] <j800r> !virtualbox
[14:46] <djhash> geev: actually you can install phpmyadmin on any computer running php and a webserver
[14:47] <geev> djhash but lamp is not in my computer so i suppose to install it now is it?
[14:48] <djhash> geev: yup.. you can use Synaptic to install it.. its easy..
[14:49] <madrid_> Hola estoy probando MAX4.0
[14:49] <wols> !es | madrid_
[14:50] <djhash> geev: LAMP stands for Linux Apache Mysql PHP (or Perl or Python).. just go to synaptic and install each one.. not sure if there is a single package in the repos that bundles them together..
[14:50] <madrid_> OK I understandd
[14:50] <bcochofel> where can I find localeconf for hardy?
 i found more than one package on synaptic package which shall i select to install
[14:51] <bcochofel> Everywhere I read on google search results to change system language I see localeconf, but doesn't exist
[14:51] <bcochofel> at least in hardy
[14:51] <adimov> Hi again
[14:51] <yao_ziyuan> is ubuntu 8.04's kernel a recent one?
[14:52] <adimov> how do i install an rpm?
[14:52] <FD_F> adimov: rpm is redhat/fedora package
[14:53] <gaintsura> is it possible to configure brightness/color on cheese?
[14:53] <Pici> !lamp > geev
[14:53] <geev> <djhash i used search then i found evolution, lampython, lavaps and libtext-grob.perl
[14:53] <djhash> geev: none.. just install apache2, php5 and mysql-server-5.0
[14:54] <adimov> so how do i install an rpm?
[14:54] <Pici> adimov: Preferably, you don't.
[14:54] <djhash> !rpm | adimov\
[14:54] <nesw> !rpm
[14:54] <adimov> am i connected or what?
[14:54] <sudobash> no
[14:55] <sudobash> use alien to install rpm: sudo alien -i file.rpm
[14:55] <sudobash> sudo apt-get install alien
[14:55] <sudobash> first
[14:55] <adimov> why there are 2 freenode tabs
[14:56] <sudobash> .......
[14:56] <imarink> looooooooool
[14:56] <imarink> mac,mac,mac... jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee..
[14:56] <Pici> adimov: I highly recommend looking for your package in the repository or installing from a .deb
[14:57] <wols> sudobash: don't. alien will most times wreck your package management
[14:57] <wols> if you must use rpms, convert to tgz and unpack those
[14:57] <sudobash> alien seems to work great for me wols
[14:57] <bullfroghrr> just installed 8.04 64 bit and my sound just quit after about 6 hours
[14:57] <wols> adimov: what do you want to install from that rpm?
[14:58] <djhash> adimov: you are connected twice
[14:58] <geev> <djhash so i have to install each separate apache2 php5 and my sql which should start
[14:59] <adimov> i want to install a flash plug-in for opera
[14:59] <Next1> My computer shuts down with no warning usually in the morning.  The syslog shows this .Aug 25 08:16:24 hardy syslogd 1.5.0#1ubuntu1: restart.    I have no idea what is happening. How can I figure out what is causing this?
[14:59] <adimov> yes twice, i don't know why
[14:59] <henry> hi
[14:59] <henry> hi
[14:59] <Guest40584> anyone there
[15:00] <Karl> hello
[15:00] <djhash> geev: first install apache2, then install mysql then install php5 and php5-mysql (if it isn't installed automatically) then install phpmyadmin
[15:00] <djhash> !hi
[15:00] <Guest40584> why my name suddenly change ah?
[15:00] <Karl> I just installed ubuntu 8.04 on my laptop
[15:00] <geev> <djhash ok
[15:00] <Guest40584> same like me
[15:00] <Karl> but my mic does not work yet
[15:00] <Pici> geev: you can use the instructions from ubottu
[15:01] <Guest40584> "laptop"
[15:01] <Karl> anyone can give me suggestions?
[15:01] <adimov> wols i want to instal flash plug-in
[15:01] <wols> !flash | adimov
[15:01] <sudobash> lmao
[15:02] <Guest40584> how can i find all the shortcut link in ubuntu?
[15:02] <jb_in_nyc> hi gang
[15:02] <adimov> !flash
[15:02] <Guest40584> in window we call short cut link
[15:02] <Guest40584> in linux we call link pointer
[15:02] <sudobash> wow
[15:03] <sudobash> really?
[15:03] <jb_in_nyc> I want to install ubuntu on my eee. How should I format my USB stick to install ubuntu? What file system?
[15:03] <wols> we call it symlinks
[15:03] <roger_padactor> hello just setup a test site on my local server but it wont go directly to index.php when i go to mydomail, instead it just loads a Index of page.
[15:03] <jd_wax> hello?
[15:03] <roger_padactor> where and what do i tell it to load index.php or index.html
[15:03] <jmichelse1> !hi
[15:03] <Speedy> roger_padactor,  you need tell apache config to go to index.php by default
[15:04] <hlfshell> where do i go to change settings for multiple monitors in ubuntu?
[15:04] <willvdl> hey all. This a good channel for help with a minimal install?
[15:04] <sudobash> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:04] <sudobash> but you would be better of getting nvidia-xconfig
[15:04] <djhash> !install | jb_in_nyc
[15:04] <roger_padactor> i have DirectoryIndex set to index.php
[15:04] <sudobash> if you are using an nvidia card
[15:04] <Speedy> its different if you have ati
[15:04] <hlfshell> i think i have a radeon though not an nvidia sudobash
[15:04] <sudobash> yeah it is
[15:04] <Speedy> ati has a nice gui you can use to sort out dual screen
[15:04] <jd_wax> hi, I was just wondering if anyone could help me figure a couple of things out
[15:05] <sudobash> just ask jd_wax
[15:05] <djhash> roger_padactor: what are you typing in your browser?
[15:05] <jd_wax> I'm new to ubuntu and am having trouble running a shell script
[15:05] <arno-t> hi all any opensearch gurus around? I'd like to make an opensearch xml file for http://tolkeportalen.no. It's using POST. ideas?
[15:05] <Guest40584> look like all expert sleep dy
[15:05] <jd_wax> I'm trying to run JES.sh but nothing is happening
[15:05] <Guest40584> lol
[15:05] <sudobash> jd_wax how are trying to run it?
[15:05] <Guest40584> ./JES.sh
[15:05] <roger_padactor> www.testcp.com  which points to 127.0.0.1   it loads the index of page.  but when i add index.php to it it loads fine
[15:05] <jb_in_nyc> how do I find out if I should be using FAT32 or NTFS?
[15:05] <willvdl> doing a minimal install, basically just using the alt CD, but the debootstrapper seems to give errors
[15:05] <sudobash> actually sh JES.sh
[15:06] <hlfshell> is there a graphical way to change multiple monitor settings?
[15:06] <jd_wax> by double clicking it, ubuntu asks how I want to run it, I click run in terminal, nothing happens
[15:06] <djhash> Guest40584: check out the "find" command. "man find"
[15:06] <Speedy> hlfshell,  you got ati or nvidia?
[15:06] <ThexLeopard> is koryo in?
[15:06] <sudobash> jd_wax open a terminal and cd to the dir
[15:06] <hlfshell> radeon so ati i think.
[15:06] <Koryo> ThexLeopard, Hello ^^
[15:06] <sudobash> and then type sh JES.sh
[15:06] <ThexLeopard> rofl you nearly killed the computer o;
[15:07] <sudobash> and make sure you use caps
[15:07] <ThexLeopard> i clicked the link and it restarted me
[15:07] <Speedy> hlfshell,  look in accessproes ati installs a gui there
[15:07] <Koryo> ya what?
[15:07] <Speedy> *accessories
[15:07] <ThexLeopard> i clicked the link and it restarted the computer
[15:07] <Koryo> send me the link
[15:07] <djhash> roger_padactor: did you restart apache after you added index.php to DirectoryIndex?
[15:07] <ThexLeopard> i dont remember it
[15:07] <hlfshell> Theres nothing there for something like that though Speedy - do yuo think theres a package i should install?
[15:07] <jd_wax> it says JES.sh 12: java: not found
[15:07] <Koryo> well i got it from the site lol, i didn't have a problem getting there!
[15:08] <franklin> about what time virtualbox support dirx
[15:08] <ThexLeopard> anyway i managed to run fixmbr in the end
[15:08] <roger_padactor> oooo maybe not ill try that!
[15:08] <ThexLeopard> so xp works again
[15:08] <sudobash> so you need to install java jd_wax cause your script is trying to use it
[15:08] <franklin> what time virtualbox support dirx
[15:08] <Speedy> hlfshell,  it installed itself when i installed the ati driver
[15:08] <sudobash> jre
[15:08] <ThexLeopard> im gonna get the grub super cd and hopefully configure grub myself
[15:08] <Koryo> cool ^^
[15:08] <jd_wax> right duh, thanks :P
[15:08] <hlfshell> then i guess i didnt get the ati driver then. odd.
[15:08] <jd_wax> cheers guys
[15:08] <roger_padactor> djhash,  good call that worked thanks
[15:08] <Speedy> did y9ou do it via the restricted drivers manager?
[15:08] <franklin> what time virtualbox support dirx
[15:08] <djhash> roger_padactor: no problem
[15:08] <bitplex> is there something like LTSP but uses the OS installed on the machine?
[15:09] <ThexLeopard> on a different note, how much do you know about nvidia cards?
[15:09] <hlfshell> i think so Speedy
[15:09] <hwilde> bitplex, u might get more response in the #ltsp channel
[15:09] <Guest40584> find link?
[15:09] <hlfshell> i wnet to Administration -> Hardware Drivers
[15:09] <geek_> bitplex: 'like' in what way?
[15:09] <hlfshell> and it says im using:
[15:09] <Koryo> ThexLeopard - there graphics cards xD
[15:09] <bitplex> hwilde: thanks
[15:09] <liamkmc> howdy
[15:09] <hlfshell> ATI accelerated graphics driver
[15:09] <liamkmc> howdy ya'll
[15:09] <franklin> what time virtualbox support dirx
[15:10] <ThexLeopard> i know rofl, but i was interested to find out what ram chips i have on my card
[15:10] <ThexLeopard> according to the data sheet
[15:10] <ThexLeopard> i should have 128 meg of ram on the card
[15:10] <ThexLeopard> but its running at 64
[15:10] <bitplex> i dont want each client to load the os from the server. i want it to boot an os from and disk and present the user with a network login screen. it then fetches the user data from the server to use for that session.
[15:10] <sudobash> change your bios settings
[15:10] <sudobash> ThexLeopard
[15:10] <ThexLeopard> to what?
[15:11] <sudobash> there should be a place to change allocation if it is on board nvidia card...
[15:11] <estunecle> !modeline
[15:11] <Next1> My computer restarts randomly I don't know why. What should I do?
[15:11] <sudobash> Nextl check for overheating
[15:11] <sudobash> maybe you need to clean your PC?
[15:11] <Speedy> Next1,  check the heat ?
[15:11] <ThexLeopard> i have a very old board, that might be the problem
[15:11] <Speedy> when mine did that it was because the cpu heatsink wasnt connected properly
[15:11] <sudobash> or update your BIOS firmware Nextl
[15:11] <Speedy> so the cpu was overheating
[15:11] <Speedy> i'd check the tempo before upgrading the bios
[15:12] <Speedy> *temp
[15:12] <ThexLeopard> hang on how do you update the bios firmware?
[15:12] <sudobash> mine did it from bios being out of date and not using Cool N Quiet
[15:12] <sudobash> correctly that is
[15:12] <sudobash> if you dont know how to do it check the other stuff first
[15:12] <ThexLeopard> so it wouldnt be because i have to run on AGP4 or anything?
[15:12] <sudobash> I have seen a CPU fry from heatsink mounted wrong
[15:13] <Speedy> sudobash, mine did fry
[15:13] <Speedy> after the 12th time it restarted
[15:13] <sudobash> I am running AGP8X
[15:13] <Speedy> it just fried
[15:13] <ThexLeopard> ill have a look in the bios
[15:13] <Speedy> it was hitting 92 degrees celcious within 30 secs of booting
[15:13] <sudobash> yeah it got super hot
[15:13] <Masterkiller> hey i have bluetooth hardware...and i used to be able to hcitool scan but now it instantly comes back with nothing found. anyone know where i might have edited a file to include a bluetooth id? i remember doing it awhile back but now i dont remember where
[15:13] <sudobash> damn
[15:13] <ThexLeopard> im sure i bought it as a 64 meg card
[15:13] <ThexLeopard> its just i have 4 2Mx16Bit chips
[15:13] <Speedy> then i realised the heatsink was mounted correctly haha
[15:13] <Speedy> cost me a whole new cpu
[15:13] <Speedy> stupid mistake, lessonm learned
[15:13] <Speedy> *lesson
[15:14] <sudobash> what kind of CPU?
[15:14] <Speedy> P4
[15:14] <ThexLeopard> alright ill go check now
[15:14] <FloodBot2> Speedy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:14] <Next1> Speedy: No I haven't. It's usually about 30 minutes after I turn it on and  syslog says restart
[15:14] <Speedy> oh
[15:14] <willvdl> I'm building a "command-line install" from alternate CD but it won't install the base system. complains about various debootstrap errors. A standard install works fine. Any pointers as to what the problem might be?
[15:14] <Speedy> in that case you have  a software issue
[15:15] <oskude> Next1, are you probably on a notebook with battery ?
[15:15] <sudobash> check your power management settings Nextl
[15:16] <bitplex> geek_: any suggestinos
[15:16] <geek_> bitplex: what was the problem again?
[15:16] <gaintsura> is there a way to amplify/boost the signal of a built in mic in ubuntu?
[15:17] <sudobash> so some CPU's have a feature in Power Management that will allow you to optimize for speed instead of power saving and it actually changed core voltage and multiplier i guess cause it went from 1100 Mhz to 2200Mhz each core...
[15:18] <gaintsura> sudobash: yes, great programs, but can cause over heating
[15:18] <bitplex> geek_: im trying to find a solution similar to ltsp, however instead of fetching the os from the server, it boot the os from disk and only uses the server to fetch the users desktop and data.
[15:18] <sudobash> didnt even notice it was on until AMDPWRMON showed 1100 mhz i was like what?
[15:18] <geek_> ahh
[15:18] <gaintsura> sudobash: what did you use in ubuntu, I found one for windows for AMD, but not for ubuntu yet
[15:18] <sudobash> yeah it can gaintsura
[15:19] <geek_> bitplex: sounds like a job for NFS hosted home directories
[15:19] <sudobash> on amd's site they have the AMD Power Monitor for linux you install from tgz
[15:19] <sudobash> and it works great
[15:19] <adimov> what can i do in synaptic to install flash plug-in
[15:19] <gaintsura> ah, right on, must have missed it
[15:19] <sudobash> shows you voltaga mhz power saving and cpu usage
[15:19] <ThexLeopard> right sudobash i set up the aperture size
[15:19] <ThexLeopard> just in case
[15:19] <ThexLeopard> if i set the aperture to too big
[15:19] <geek_> bitplex: it should be fairly well documented, but never done it myself ;p
[15:19] <ThexLeopard> will it destroy anything?
[15:19] <oskude> !flash
[15:20] <gaintsura> sudobash:  I found a program that you could change the stepping and such in windows, thats what I was wondering
[15:20] <sudobash> ThexLeopard if you have an Nvidia card does it not have a post screen that displays Card Info?
[15:20] <adimov> was there but no help
[15:20] <sudobash> nope.... not yet but I am sure they exists
[15:20] <testmycode019> hello
[15:20] <ThexLeopard> a post screen? you mean after the first one where you can go into setup?
[15:21] <sudobash> must be done as Admin though I'm sure
[15:21] <sudobash> or System
[15:21] <gaintsura> naturally
[15:21] <sudobash> no before that
[15:21] <sudobash> you should see a screen that tell you info on card and how much ram... For Nvidia mainly....
[15:21] <Theaxiom> How do I add/remove places from my Places menu?
[15:21] <markowen> yo
[15:21] <clp>  I installed postgresql8.3, but I don't know the password of the user 'postgres'. What should I do?
[15:21] <testmycode019> yo
[15:21] <testmycode019> yo
[15:22] <geek_> hmm
[15:22] <sudobash> yo yo yo.... yo
[15:22] <ThexLeopard> you mean the screen before the boot loader loads?
[15:22] <geek_> bitplex: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/nfs-server-and-client-configuration-in-ubuntu.html ;)
[15:22] <ThexLeopard> comes up with a table of data
[15:22] <fsufitch> hey guys i'm having a very weird problem with my nautilus file browsing. I downloaded a bunch of images from deviantart (as .jpg format), but Ubuntu says its mimetype is text/plain. for this reason, i can't double click it to view it, or set it as a desktop image. to view it i need to eog it from the command line, but what's the point of that?
[15:22] <sudobash> The first screen that the pc displays after it passes POST
[15:22] <sudobash> what is it?
[15:23] <ThexLeopard> hang on let me have a look
[15:23] <ThexLeopard> and also
[15:23] <hyphenated> sudobash: grub, the boot loader?
[15:23] <sudobash> what about it?
[15:23] <ThexLeopard> oh nevermind
[15:23] <hyphenated> the first screen after POST
[15:24] <adimov> so installing flash
[15:24] <sudobash> no if you are on an Nvidia Graphics Card it should be info on your card at the top and then ram check/CMOS entry, and then grub
[15:24] <sudobash> and thats not counting cdrom / usb boot check
[15:25] <fsufitch> my question simplified: how to i force ubuntu to give me image/jpeg mimetype for images that it now says are text/plain ?
[15:25] <Guest96896> hi
[15:26] <sudobash> adimov what about it? it can be done a few ways but the only one that ever worked for me 100% is the script installer
[15:27] <sudobash> it will install for opera/ firefox / knoq and some others
[15:27] <franklin> what time virtualbox support dirx
[15:27] <wols> fsufitch: mimetype where?
[15:27] <fsufitch> okay, my problem is: apparently all the images i own suddenly decided to be text/plain. the only ones that actually work properly are PNGs, since i guess ubuntu recognises them as images
[15:27] <wols> fsufitch: #vbox?
[15:27] <fsufitch> mimetype as reported by nautilus when i right click the file with properties
[15:27] <franklin> yes
[15:27] <adimov> sudobash tell me how
[15:27] <fsufitch> wols: wat do u mean vbox?
[15:28] <nDuff> fsufitch, go ask in that channel
[15:28] <joaopinto> !flash | adimov
[15:28] <oskude> franklin, maybe you should as the creators of virtualbox
[15:28] <oskude> *ask
[15:28] <fsufitch> nDuff: why? i'm not running in a virtual box...
[15:28] <franklin> i want go dirx in vbox on the winxp
[15:28] <wols> franklin: #vbox ?
[15:28] <wols> fsufitch: wrong nick
[15:28] <nDuff> fsufitch, oh, I thought you asked when vbox would support DirectX
[15:28] <fsufitch> wols: :) it's okay
[15:28] <adimov> i was there ubottu but no use (for me)
[15:29] <snarkster> is there a config file for synaptic?
[15:29] <wols> !tell adimov about errors
[15:29] <oskude> franklin, and maybe you have better luck with http://www.cedega.com/
[15:29] <nDuff> franklin, ask in #vbox
[15:29] <wols> and ubottu is a bot, no use aswering it
[15:29] <franklin> thx
[15:29] <adimov> to many up and downs but nothing clear
[15:29] <adimov> where ubottu
[15:30] <sudobash> adimov: http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash
[15:30]  * nDuff suppresses his urge to jump on people for using text-message shorthand in IRC
[15:30] <sudobash> and download the tar.gz
[15:30] <joaopinto> adimov, from the package manager install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:30] <ThexLeopard> right theres no screen that tells me about the nvidia card
[15:30] <sudobash> some times it doesn't work but it is worth a try first
[15:30] <ThexLeopard> the only information page i get is on the x server settings
[15:31] <joaopinto> sudobash, do not instruct him to use an external script, the proper way to install flash on Ubuntu is using the repository!
[15:31] <ThexLeopard> telling me its a 64meg card
[15:31] <wols> ThexLeopard: lspci -nn
[15:31] <pauljw> adimov: the instructions are pretty clear on that site, add the multiverse repo ; reload; install flashplugin-nonfree
[15:32] <sudobash> well I know that script works 100% of the time
[15:32] <joaopinto> sudobash, so does the repository, and that is the recommended procedure
[15:32] <ThexLeopard> ok i have a geforce fx5200 card on AGP4
[15:32] <adimov> joaopinto u mean that synaptic stuff
[15:32] <ThexLeopard> i already knew that o;
[15:32] <ThexLeopard> i want to know how much memory is on it
[15:32] <bazhang> sudobash, always better to use the repos first.
[15:33] <wols> ThexLeopard: yes but now we know what drivers you can uuse
[15:33] <joaopinto> adimov, erm, yes, to install software on ubuntu you use Synaptic
[15:33] <ThexLeopard> i know what drivers i need
[15:33] <ThexLeopard> i dont know how much memory there is on the card though
[15:33] <wols> ThexLeopard: did you use the nvidia driver or the nv one?
[15:33] <wols> ThexLeopard: doesn't matter
[15:33] <sudobash> the FX 5200 comes in 128 and 256 mb version i believe
[15:33] <ThexLeopard> it does
[15:33] <sudobash> I have owned 2
[15:33] <sudobash> one of each
[15:33] <ThexLeopard> so why is it when i bought mine i thought it was 64 >.<
[15:34] <ThexLeopard> so i need nv drivers?
[15:34] <adimov> adobe site - tar.gz, rpm, yum - what shall i do with them?
[15:34] <sudobash> yeah use the restricted drivers manager
[15:34] <wols> adimov: nothing since you're not supposed to even look at them
[15:34] <ThexLeopard> it says i have the nvidia corp NV34 GeForce FX5200
[15:35] <sudobash>  nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]
[15:35] <ThexLeopard> yeah
[15:35] <sudobash> i am on the 256 mb version now
[15:35] <Meeso> how do I install Sun Java 3D?
[15:35] <Meeso> I need it for school
[15:35] <ThexLeopard> so i need to uninstall the drivers i have now and install NV drivers instead?
[15:35] <sudobash> its a good card and it will last you as long as you surge protect everything going IN to it....
[15:36] <pauljw> adimov: if you don't understand which of those files to use, get out of there and go back to synaptic and follow the instructions i and others have given you to install from the repositories.  you'll be in way over your head otherwise.
[15:36] <adimov> now i am on synaptic window what shell i do, there is a lot of stuff, how can i find flash
[15:36] <Pici> adimov: the package name is flashplugin-nonfree
[15:36] <sudobash> my 128 version FX 5200 was fried by an Ionic Charge
[15:37] <ThexLeopard> ive had mine years anyway
[15:37] <sudobash> over COAX through a TV over Svideo to Video Card... got the TV also
[15:37] <Meeso> how do I install Sun Java 3D?
[15:37] <ThexLeopard> but i need it to last me sort of two more
[15:37] <ThexLeopard> before i buy a new pc
[15:37] <oskude> Meeso, whats Java 3D ?
[15:37] <sudobash> I had that card for about 4 years before that happened
[15:37] <ThexLeopard> had it since like 2001 my computer
[15:37] <Meeso> IDK
[15:37] <Meeso> I need it for school though
[15:37] <ThexLeopard> upgraded virtually every component
[15:37] <Meeso> I tried installing with WINE
[15:38] <ThexLeopard> aside from fitting a new motherboard
[15:38] <Meeso> it still wont recognise it
[15:38] <wols> oskude: a 3D api to be used from java
[15:38] <oskude> Meeso, well, what ever it is, sounds like a question for sun...
[15:38] <sudobash> thats using old SD-RAM of DDR1?
[15:38] <wols> Meeso: you must install it to your system Java
[15:38] <Meeso> how?
[15:38] <mrnick> anybody knows how to install yaacs on ubuntu hardy?
[15:38] <sudobash> PC133
[15:38] <ThexLeopard> yeah its PC133
[15:38] <ThexLeopard> rofl
[15:38] <sudobash> lol
[15:38] <wols> Meeso: https://java3d.dev.java.net/binary-builds.html
[15:39] <sudobash> I need to upgrade this DDR2 to 800 Mhz instead of 667
[15:39] <wols> sudobash: what is your FSB?
[15:39] <ThexLeopard> ive missed all the new motherboard standards and everything
[15:39] <adimov> in syn i have only embedded stuff and than gnome desktop stuff, where is flashplugin-nonfree?
[15:39] <sudobash> but i got a 1GB stick for free
[15:39] <elTigre> hi
[15:39] <Meeso> j3d-1_5_2-linux-amd64.zip
[15:39] <Meeso> j3d-1_5_2-linux-i586.zip   ? which?
[15:39] <sudobash> I have a BioStar K8M800 so 800 mhz
[15:39] <sudobash> i believe
[15:39] <ThexLeopard> everyones using sata now aswell while i potter along with my IDE slots
[15:40] <elTigre> I have a problem with SDL... SDL windows keep open after closing the games, in a kind of hang state. have to kill -9 the
[15:40] <elTigre> m
[15:40] <sudobash> its a POS MB that still has AGP8X instead of PCI-E but has AM2 Socket X2
[15:40] <elTigre> But I don't even know what terms to google for
[15:40] <wols> sudobash: BS
[15:40] <pauljw> adimov: did you enable the multiverse repository in synaptic and reload as the link instructed you?
[15:40] <sudobash> seriously....
[15:40] <oskude> Meeso, if youre running a 64bit system you probably need the -amd64.zip, otherwise the -i586.zip
[15:40] <wols> sudobash: seriously, no
[15:40] <sudobash> AGP8X with AM2 Socket
[15:40] <Meeso> ok
[15:41] <adimov> no, how?
[15:41] <sudobash> my FSB is 233 MHZ
[15:42] <sudobash> sorry i was talking about my RAM
[15:42] <sudobash> no 232
[15:42] <bazhang> !ot
[15:42] <bazhang> let us take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:43] <junglejim> does anyone here know anything about hooking your computer up to the TV?\
[15:43] <cuil> i cannot  send message use MSN
[15:44] <junglejim> im trying to hook my laptop up to the DVI-I socket in the computer but the TV says "Video mode not supported"
[15:44] <AJC_Z0> When I insert a music CD, the window pops up asking if I want to play it with Rhythmbox, do nothing, etc. How do I configure this to play my CD in another app, specifically Audacious?
[15:44] <sudobash> yeah it can be done with VGA DVI SVIDEO
[15:44] <junglejim> i need an extra SVIDEO wire?
[15:44] <cuil> who can tell me how to do            use  aMSN  on ubuntu
[15:44] <oskude> !msn
[15:44] <sudobash> junglejim you need to adjust your resolution on the TV-Screen which means it might not even be enabled yet....
[15:45] <junglejim> sudobash: I have a DVI-I adapter connected to a VGA cable which is connected to my laptop
[15:45] <sroecker> junglejim, did you try gnome-display-properties
[15:45] <pauljw> adimov: follow these instructions  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu#Adding%20the%20Universe%20and%20Multiverse%20Repositories
[15:45] <junglejim> sroecker: havent tried that yet
[15:45] <AJC_Z0> junglejim: The TV only understand certain modes and signals. Try setting the mode to a recognised TV resolution and refresh rate
[15:45] <sudobash> what kind of video chipset are you on do you know?
[15:45] <sroecker> junglejim, try a lower resolution
[15:45] <Gerrit> Hi, I would like to disable postfix for a while because I will temporarily not have access to my MTA. All outgoing e-mail should be postponed until I have access again. Meanwhile, I don't want error messages and bounced e-mails. How can I do this without losing my configuration?
[15:45] <junglejim> when I go to the PC channel on my TV is works
[15:45] <junglejim> but not the HD channel
[15:45] <junglejim> PC channel doesnt output sound though
[15:45] <AJC_Z0> junglejim: though it may be complicated by the VGA-DVI. I don't know
[15:45] <junglejim> sroecker: i tried all resolutions my comp supports
[15:46] <junglejim> AJC_Z0: tried all refresh rates too
[15:46] <AJC_Z0> junglejim: HD signal is very different from N/ATSC
[15:46] <Gerrit> in the services, but I forgot where that is
[15:46] <junglejim> is there any way to get the PC channel to output sound?
[15:46] <junglejim> Videos play fine on the PC channel
[15:46] <reikalusikka> how can I see my computers specs
[15:47] <junglejim> but theres no sound
[15:47] <Meeso> where do fonts go?
[15:47] <reikalusikka> 1 command if possible
[15:47] <sroecker> junglejim, pc channel is just the video from dvi
[15:47] <reikalusikka> any1?
[15:47] <reikalusikka> hwconfig?
[15:47] <Meeso> where do fonts go?
[15:47] <junglejim> sroecker: the channels on my TV are "EXT 1, AV, PC, HD"
[15:47] <junglejim> which one should I be using?
[15:48] <reikalusikka> how to see my computer's configuration
[15:48] <junglejim> considering I have a wire hooked up to a DVI-I socket
[15:48] <reikalusikka> hardware
[15:48] <Gerrit> hmm, doesn't work
[15:48] <AJC_Z0> junglejim: Those would be inputs rather than channels
[15:48] <Gerrit> never mind
[15:48] <oskude> Meeso, you mean you want to install your own fonts ? i think you can copy them to ~/.fonts and restart X
[15:48] <sroecker> junglejim, if you are connecting it with dvi-i you need to use pc
[15:48] <junglejim> AJC_Z0: yea inputs sorry
[15:48] <junglejim> sroecker: ah so it does work then
[15:49] <junglejim> sroecker: but it outputs sound from the normal channels not the laptop
[15:49] <AJC_Z0> If your TV has a "PC" input and it works, then why do you care about HD TV? You can probably display a higher resolution picture than HD
[15:49] <AJC_Z0> Sound doesn't come from a VGA port
[15:49] <junglejim> AJC_Z0: it wont play the sound from the laptop
[15:49] <junglejim> only pictures
[15:49] <AJC_Z0> Right. If you want sound, then you need to hook up the sound card
[15:49] <junglejim> AJC_Z0: damn do I need another wire?
[15:50] <sudobash> haha
[15:50] <AJC_Z0> The fact that HDMI can carry sound as well as video is incidental
[15:50] <sudobash> i was waiting on someone to say something
[15:50] <AJC_Z0> junglejim: Yes, you need an audio calbe from the sound card to whatever you use for audio - TV, receiver, gramophone, ...
[15:50] <Meeso> what is 'X'?
[15:51] <Meeso> how do I restart it?
[15:51] <junglejim> damn I didn't know it was so complicated
[15:51] <junglejim> ah well at least I have the video working
[15:51] <junglejim> thanks for the help
[15:51] <AJC_Z0> junglejim: Pictures and noises. It's tricky
[15:51] <bytor4232> Meeso: usually CTRL-ALT-BACKSPACE will kill your X server.  It will log you completely out, so save your changes and close your apps first.
[15:51] <sudobash> get a sound system for your laptop
[15:51] <reikalusikka> what is the web page where I can paste 500 lines of stuff
[15:51] <sudobash> 30 bucks
[15:52] <oskude> Meeso, http://www.x.org "the thing you see" in "linux" press ctrl+alt+backspace to restart it, or in console: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[15:52] <zSoilworker> reikalusikka:  pastebin.ubuntu.com
[15:52] <sudobash> pastebin
[15:52] <reikalusikka> thanks guys
[15:53] <ubuntu_> hi guys, first of all my english is not very good ;/ i have a prob with boot
[15:54] <ubuntu_> i installed ubuntu and after restart i have this prob with boot
[15:54] <ubuntu_> anyone can help/
[15:54] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: you may want to try you native language channel first ...
[15:54] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: where are you from?
[15:54] <ubuntu_> i tryed but no one answered
[15:54] <ubuntu_> greece
[15:55] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: :|. Go ahead describe the problem
[15:55] <ubuntu_> after installation i made restard
[15:55] <ubuntu_> and then i can log ubuntu
[15:56] <ubuntu_> black screen and a message that says something like 'you have to choose a proper boot disk'
[15:57] <erUSUL> ubuntu_: you installed grub durng ubuntu instalation? on the mbr?
[15:57] <alex_> exeter
[15:57] <ubuntu_> hmm im newby in linux so i dont know what you mean ;/
[15:58] <ubuntu_> downloaded ubuntu 8,4 and installex
[15:58] <ubuntu_> installed
[15:58] <IdleOne> ubuntu_: you let the installer do the partitioning ?
[15:58] <zSoilworker> Goodbye all.
[15:58] <oskude> ubuntu_, at the end of installation it asked you if you want to install GRUB to the Master Boot Record, did you say yes there ?
[15:59] <sudobash> he needs Super Grub Disk maybe
[15:59] <ubuntu_> no it didnt asked
[15:59] <caexo> once again i figured my question out before i asked... cya
[16:00] <the[V]oid> hi, can someone tell me how "safe" it is to upgrade from ubuntu 7.10 to 8.04? will all the drivers (even the propritary) still work and my configurations (like that of X.org) be kept?
[16:01] <ubuntu_> i just choosed to use my disk and dont make partitions
[16:01] <oskude> !upgrade
[16:01] <FreddyGonzo> the[V]oid: Depends on your hardware. I call this LTS 'Buggy Heron'
[16:01] <sudobash> I had some problem upgrading when 8.04 first came out... but there have been a lot of updates and such
[16:01] <bazhang> ubuntu_, you installed from inside windows?
[16:01] <oskude> ubuntu_, dont make partitions ? where did it install it then ?
[16:01] <ubuntu_> no from ubuntu cd
[16:01] <erUSUL> the[V]oid: it was safe for me all the times i upgraded ubuntu (many from warty beta)
[16:02] <ubuntu_> in my disk
[16:02] <Myrtti> !away > zSoilWORKING
[16:02] <bazhang> sounds like wubi
[16:02] <erUSUL> the[V]oid: prop. drivers? depends on how you installed them
[16:02] <oskude> ubuntu_, did you boot from the CD or did you "start" the cd in ms-windows ?
[16:03] <ubuntu_> boot from cd and then install ubuntu
[16:03] <IdleOne> the[V]oid: backup! then upgrade
[16:03] <zSoilWORKING> Myrtti: Saying goodbye is not excessive scrolling :P
[16:03] <oskude> ubuntu_, hmm
[16:03] <erUSUL> the[V]oid: conf files will be kept merged or replaced depending on what you want. You will be asked during upgrade for most of them
[16:03] <Myrtti> zSoilWORKING: nick change is totally needless too
[16:04] <the[V]oid> well I've just read on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes#From%207.10%20or%206.06%20LTS%20to%208.04%20LTS that my system will get corrupted if I upgrade
[16:04] <ubuntu_> i made the installation 2nd time but i have the same prob
[16:04] <bazhang> ubuntu_, did you do the integrity check on the cd after md5 the iso?
[16:04] <PatMac_> I just installed Ubuntu 8.04 on Parallels 3 on Mac OS X Leopard, and It appears like I followed the right documentation to get Parallels Tools to work. But after it restarts, I see no changes at all. Am I missing something?
[16:05] <Thunderbolt> hi
[16:05] <IdleOne> !hi | Thunderbolt
[16:05] <ubuntu_> you confused me :)
[16:05] <Thunderbolt> 有人没
[16:05] <bazhang> ubuntu_, this is already installed and cannot boot? did you get a disk not found error or a grub error
[16:05] <IdleOne> !cn
[16:05] <Thunderbolt> 我的MPLAYER不能播放MMS：／／
[16:06] <bazhang> Thunderbolt, /j #ubuntu-cn
[16:06] <ubuntu_> yes installed and cannot boot
[16:06] <bazhang> ubuntu_, but what error
[16:06] <lyjstudy> 我的MPLAYER不能播放MMS：／／
[16:06] <lyjstudy> 我的MPLAYER不能播放MMS：／／
[16:06] <lyjstudy> 我的MPLAYER不能播放MMS：／／
[16:06] <FloodBot1> lyjstudy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:07] <bazhang> !cn | lyjstudy
[16:07] <ubuntu_> i get a message 'choose a prepor disk to boot' somerthing like that
[16:07] <IdleOne> !cn > lyjstudy
[16:07] <ThexLeopard> sudobash
[16:07] <sudobash> yes?
[16:07] <tesseracter> anyone had problems staying connected to a wireless network when using transmission? as soon as i turn on transmission, wireless stops.
[16:07] <oskude> ubuntu_, it sounds like theres no GRUB in the MBR for the BIOS to find...
[16:07] <ThexLeopard> what were them other things to check aside from bios settings?
[16:08] <ubuntu_> what can i do?
[16:08] <sudobash> cleanliness of the Heat sink behind the Fan on top of CPU....
[16:08] <oskude> !grub
[16:08] <sudobash> to make sure it isn't overheating
[16:08] <ThexLeopard> cpu temp is 52 degrees
[16:08] <IdleOne> !fixgrub
[16:09] <ThexLeopard> nothing wrong with that
[16:09] <sudobash> are you on a laptop or desktop?
[16:09] <Adakos> This is an odd question. but how can I connect to a computer that is behind a firewall via ssh? I can SSH -FROM- that machine, but can't SSH -TO- that machine, is there a reverse tunnel switch  for ssh ?
[16:09] <ThexLeopard> desktop
[16:09] <sudobash> desktop right?
[16:09] <Myrtti> Adakos: yes there is
[16:09] <medicine> .
[16:09] <ThexLeopard> i changed the graphics card aperture to 128mb
[16:09] <PriceChild> Adakos: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_SSH_Reverse_Tunnel
[16:10] <ThexLeopard> but whatever i do, the software insists i only have 64 meg
[16:10] <Adakos> Myrtti && PriceChild: thanks
[16:10] <Myrtti> Adakos: http://pthree.org/2008/06/05/what-goes-out-can-come-back-in/
[16:10] <heroxbd> Hello. I've met with a wired problem. When I am using Ubuntu 8.04 with linux 2.6.24, my ethernet adapter was running very good. But just after I download a 2.6.26 kernel from intrepid and installed it, the 2.6.24 kernel does not function with my ethernet.
[16:10] <ThexLeopard> firmware should be up to date
[16:10] <ThexLeopard> in the bios
[16:11] <bazhang> heroxbd, #ubuntu+1
[16:11] <sudobash> well if there isn't much to go on in the logs I would just reset the bios settings to default and set your aperture again...
[16:11] <ThexLeopard> since bios update is enabled
[16:11] <heroxbd> bazhang: You mean I am off the topic of this channel?
[16:11] <ThexLeopard> ok ill try that
[16:11] <wols> heroxbd: #ubuntu+1
[16:11] <ThexLeopard> if it doesnt work
[16:11] <sudobash> no that just means it can be updated not automatically
[16:11] <ThexLeopard> ill have to solder new chips on after all
[16:11] <wols> heroxbd: yes
[16:12] <ThexLeopard> youve stopped making sense rofl
[16:12] <ThexLeopard> i say ill have to
[16:12] <bazhang> !away > killown|away
[16:12] <ThexLeopard> itll probably be my dad that does it
[16:12] <sudobash> the update enabled does not automatically update firmware of MB
[16:12] <sudobash> it just means it be updated vi boot or maybe from windows
[16:13] <sudobash> In System Programmable is what that means
[16:13] <ThexLeopard> ok so if i go to bios and reset everything
[16:13] <ThexLeopard> how do i make sure the bios is updated?
[16:13] <roxy2> hello :)
[16:13] <sudobash> it might work but if it does not work that update firmware
[16:13] <Thunderbolt> ??
[16:14] <sudobash> go to the MB manufacturer site and check for downloaded firmware
[16:14] <ThexLeopard> ok
[16:14] <bazhang> !cn | Thunderbolt
[16:14] <sudobash> and check the dates and version number against yours in bios
[16:14] <ThexLeopard> who was my motherboard manufactured by now rofl
[16:14] <ThexLeopard> i think its asus
[16:14] <wols> I doubt the mobo maker still supports your old hardware :)
[16:14] <wols> the bios ident string can tell you
[16:14] <ThexLeopard> its either asus or asrock
[16:15] <Thunderbolt> This xchat is very diffcult
[16:15] <ThexLeopard> and i dont think its asrock
[16:15] <sudobash> but there should still be a more up to date firmware if his has never been updated
[16:15] <heroxbd> I think my problem is not a intrepid one. I installed a 2.6.26 kernel and then my 8.04 stock 2.6.24 stop to function with my ethernet driver.
[16:15] <wols> heroxbd: how did you install that kernel exactly?
[16:15] <roxy2> hello
[16:15] <pc22> how do i access xp mydocs on ubuntu live?
[16:15] <bazhang> heroxbd, you are using the intrepid kernel so it is #ubuntu+1
[16:15] <pc22> i can access other folders but not mydocs
[16:16] <heroxbd> wols: I wanted the isatap (and ipv6 tunnel)support.
[16:16] <bazhang> heroxbd, offtopic here.
[16:16] <ThexLeopard> does anyone know a command for finding out the motherboard data on dos
[16:16] <wols> heroxbd: that didn't answer my question
[16:16] <ThexLeopard> saves me restarting
[16:16] <wols> ThexLeopard: we only support ubuntu
[16:17] <ThexLeopard> ok rofl
[16:17] <ThexLeopard> give me the terminal command (:
[16:17] <Pici> ThexLeopard: Try ##windows
[16:17] <heroxbd> bazhang: no. I don't want to try out 2.6.26. I only want to know why my stock kernel stops functioning.
[16:17] <wols> heroxbd: answer my question then
[16:18] <ThexLeopard> anyone know the command for finding out motherboard data on ubuntu?
[16:19] <Pici> ThexLeopard: sudo lshw   might give you that info
[16:19] <sudobash> lspci will list devices connected
[16:19] <ThexLeopard> ok
[16:19] <ThexLeopard> now to restart
[16:20] <heroxbd> wols: Actually. My pure 8.04 is running well. Then I wanted the isatap ipv6 support. So I went and fetched a 2.6.26 kernel and the ipv6 support is ok. Then I wonder if the 2.6.24 can do with isatap (it is supposed to be in the kernel since 2.6.25). So I rebooted into the 2.6.24 kernel, and found the ethernet stops functioning.
[16:21] <heroxbd> wols: however I plug on and off the wire, the 2.6.24 system says "eth0 Link not ready."
[16:21] <jassim> back
[16:21] <heroxbd> wols: But I can't find any clue how my operations effected the old, pure 8.04 system.
[16:24] <bazhang> heroxbd, installing or using intrepid kernel or otherwise is offtopic here. Please move to that channel.
[16:24] <bullium> running 8.04 and everytime I open new application, click a link on the net that opens a new window they are ALL minimized by default. Any idea how to fix this?
[16:25] <ThexLeopard> 64 meg
[16:25] <Speedo_> Hi all.
[16:25] <heroxbd> bazhang: But what went wrong is my hardy system, not intrepid.
[16:25] <jimmmym> Hi guys,
[16:26] <snarkster> what do you use to read cbr files?
[16:26] <bazhang> heroxbd, not here. using intrepid--->#ubuntu+1.
[16:26] <Pici> heroxbd: We do not support using custom kernels in Ubuntu Hardy, you might be able to get support in #ubuntu+1
[16:26] <ThexLeopard> rofl my latest bios is from 2003
[16:26] <heroxbd> OK. guys. I am going to uninstall the 2.6.26 kernel and come back and ask.
[16:26] <infz> could someone help me with a initramfs problem. I need to put lvm support in it but i can't get it working
[16:28] <ThexLeopard> right sudobash, i have an awd file
[16:29] <ThexLeopard> where does it need to be?
[16:29] <bazhang> snarkster, comix works well here
[16:29] <ThexLeopard> and do i need to do anything with it?
[16:29] <dmseg> guys even on lan VNC dosent perform well any help how to speed up stuff
[16:30] <v0lksman> what is the best way to determin what is consuming RAM on a system? The numbers in gnome system manager don't add up to what conky is reporting...
[16:30] <GuestZero> hey all . . . could someone tell me why when i try to install ubuntu7.10 to my flash drive all goes well until the end when i get an error "Cannot install grub to /dev/sdc1"?
[16:31] <ThexLeopard> ah for crying out loud i havent used a floppy in years
[16:32] <CartoonCat> is there a proscribed method for moving from Gnome to KDE?
[16:33] <favro> GuestZero: tried the howtos on pendrivelinux?
[16:33] <IdleOne> CartoonCat: you can install kubuntu-desktop but that has the effect of mixing up gnome and kde apps in the menus. backup! and do a fresh install if you can
[16:33] <GuestZero> favro . . . do you have a link?
[16:34] <Marcin26P> can samone help me with nVidia GeForce FX Go5200
[16:34] <GuestZero> never mind
[16:34] <GuestZero> tks
[16:34] <shentino> What is the current version of Ubuntu?
[16:34] <shentino> I have 7.04
[16:35] <ThexLeopard> marcin26p
[16:35] <ThexLeopard> whats the problem rofl?
[16:35] <oskude> shentino, 8.04.1
[16:35] <Marcin26P> hmm i dont have 3d
[16:35] <ThexLeopard> ok installing the drivers is a farce
[16:35] <Marcin26P> when i start chromium its like werry long ches game ;)
[16:35] <favro> GuestZero: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/
[16:35] <wathek> hello all
[16:35] <ThexLeopard> have you installed the drivers?
[16:35] <wathek> Cocoabean, it's ok everything is istalled
[16:35] <shentino> and one more question
[16:35] <Marcin26P> when i install from system administration
[16:36] <user01> how do i have tv video out?
[16:36] <Marcin26P> drivers
[16:36] <shentino> Does that version support installation onto an LVM partition scheme?
[16:36] <Cocoabean> nice to hear wathek
[16:36] <wathek> Cocoabean, I had to make all the installation from the internet :(
[16:36] <Marcin26P> its the same now im unchecked box
[16:36] <ThexLeopard> so you havent installed the drivers?
[16:36] <Marcin26P> ther is statement that it works with new nvidia cards
[16:36] <oskude> shentino, im not sure(never did that) but i think it can
[16:36] <shentino> 7.04 apparently didnt...which surprises me.
[16:37] <favro> user01: depends on your vid card - which is it
[16:37] <Cocoabean> wathek, sorry to hear, but at least you got it installed
[16:37] <CartoonCat> IdleOne, oy, just did that a few weeks ago (deb -> ubunt) but if its the best way i guess ill need to
[16:37] <wathek> Cocoabean, yep I let it running while I'm sleeping
[16:37] <wathek> :)
[16:37] <shentino> oskude: how would I find out if ubuntu supports LVM stuff during installation?
[16:37] <Marcin26P> ThexLeopard: now i have uninstaled drivers
[16:37] <user01> favro, ATI Technologies Inc Radeon Mobility M7 LW [Radeon Mobility 7500]
[16:38] <wathek> Cocoabean, it had to download about 500 Mo from the internet that's OK
[16:38] <wathek> :
[16:38] <wathek> :)
[16:38] <oskude> shentino, check the docs, or boot from it till partitioning an see if theres option to install on LVM
[16:38] <oskude> !lvm
[16:38] <ThexLeopard> marcin read this
[16:38] <ThexLeopard> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[16:38] <shentino> thanks
[16:38] <ThexLeopard> itll make sure your drivers have gone
[16:38] <ThexLeopard> and itll tell you how to install them properly
[16:38] <ThexLeopard> its what i used to get my card working
[16:38] <Cocoabean> haha, well enjoy it wathek, I have to dash off to work, ill be around later, take care
[16:38] <wathek> ok Cocoabean
[16:39] <kev_> hey when is the new ubuntu 8.10 coming out?
[16:39] <ThexLeopard> i would run through "uninstall nvidia-glx" just in case
[16:39] <yaga> #ubuntu-fr
[16:39] <oskude> !version
[16:39] <ThexLeopard> if theres any nvidia files when you try to install again it might mess everything back up and youre back to square one
[16:39] <oskude> kev_, it means xx.10.2008
[16:40] <shentino> !freedisk
[16:40] <leeping2008> Hi there, is there a way for the "Window List" panel to show not only the windows on one monitor, but the windows on all monitors?  I believe that was the default option, but something happened to my panels and now the window list only shows the open windows on the monitor that the panel is on
[16:40] <shentino> !media
[16:40] <kev_> oskie, thanks.
[16:40] <shentino> uh...
[16:40] <oskude> kev_, so theoretically in one month
[16:40] <agent> how do i make the default places -> bookmark list longer so that it shows more than 5 bookmarks instead of creating a seperate "bookmarks" menu item after adding more than 5 bookmarks?
[16:40] <kev_> oskude*
[16:40] <favro> user01: do you have svideo out?
[16:40] <leeping2008> oh, never mind :) I fixed it ... I had two window lists open, the other one was hidden
[16:40] <kev_> oskude, i broke my sound so i was going to reformat anyway of fixing it?
[16:40] <user01> favro, yes
[16:40] <agent> i cannot find any option in gconf-editor for doing this...
[16:40] <Marcin26P> ThexLeopard: i will try ;)
[16:40] <B_166-ER-X> I just changed my video card, i managed to have some video support (on 8.04), but  its a geforce 9500GT 1g. and i have much less performance now than with my old card, i have the feeling the drivers is now optimized for my new card, is there a way to change That ? please
[16:41] <ThexLeopard> i think the main thing is to learn how to edit the x-server config yourself
[16:41] <ThexLeopard> nvidia messes the config up o;
[16:41] <favro> user01: if that is what you want to work you're out of luck atm afaik the ati drivers are bust
[16:41] <B_166-ER-X> 'not optimized' sry
[16:41] <ThexLeopard> but that thread will tell you how to anyway
[16:41] <oskude> kev_, well, thats propably the most laziest/easiest way yes ;)
[16:41] <henry> hello
[16:42] <kev_> oskude, lol
[16:42] <yao_ziyuan> are SCSI and IDE two kinds of cables?
[16:42] <ThexLeopard> right, does anyone have san andreas working on wine?
[16:42] <henry> lol
[16:42] <favro> user01: the release last month was the first to support svideo out and it and this months release are crap
[16:42] <Guest45910> Ubuntu is the Best!!!
[16:42] <oskude> yao_ziyuan, yes
[16:42] <yao_ziyuan> i'm beginning to realize what my problem is.
[16:42] <yao_ziyuan> Nautilus says my DVD drive is connected to SCSI.
[16:42] <zorglu_>  q. i got a delta 1010 card, is it supported by 8.04 ?
[16:43] <Thurston> hey guys. i was wondering, how do i take off ubuntu safely, so i dont have the grub boot loader. cause i tried it once, and kept getting an error 22 and nothing would happen?
[16:43] <Guest45910> how to list all the link in Ubuntu that User had been created
[16:43] <user01> favro, for my card?
[16:43] <ThexLeopard> thurston
[16:43] <ThexLeopard> do you have xp?
[16:43] <yao_ziyuan> i removed the DVD drive and plugged a DVD writer in the same place. that DVD writer is supposed to be plugged to an IDE.
[16:43] <Thurston> yes. its what im in now
[16:43] <ThexLeopard> ok
[16:43] <Guest45910> IN Ubuntu have how many kind of link?
[16:43] <ThexLeopard> run the xp installation disk from boot
[16:43] <Guest45910> LD_LIBRARY?
[16:43] <atlef> ThexLeopard: http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=7677&iTestingId=14325
[16:43] <ThexLeopard> and wait till you get to the setup bit
[16:43] <Gerrit> Whenever I use sudo, I get an warning message "sudo: unable to resolve host fionnay". How do I fix this?
[16:43] <favro> user01: all ati atm
[16:43] <Araneidae> How do I get rid of all the extra kernel versions (and associated modules) I've got installed?
[16:43] <ThexLeopard> when you do
[16:43] <Thurston> yeah...
[16:43] <ThexLeopard> go into the recovery console
[16:43] <Thurston> press R for recovery
[16:43] <oskude> yao_ziyuan, well, dont be fooled, ubuntu says my flash memory connected to USB is also an SCSI device...
[16:44] <Guest45910> Symbolic link
[16:44] <ThexLeopard> yeah
[16:44] <poolisclozed> yo d00ds
[16:44] <ThexLeopard> log on as the admin on your windows installation
[16:44] <poolisclozed> i need some help
[16:44] <ThexLeopard> and type fixmbr
[16:44] <ThexLeopard> that will revert the master boot record to the one you originally had when you got windows
[16:44] <Guest45910> ln -s [TARGET DIRECTORY OR FILE] ./[SHORTCUT]
[16:44] <jurism> How to extract tgz file? I use tar xvfz but I need to extract all files in one directory, I don't want to keep directory structure
[16:44] <oskude> yao_ziyuan, if the IDE cable fits in, then its IDE, but linux may handle it as SCSI device, dunno why...
[16:44] <Guest45910> how to delete the symbolic link
[16:44] <Thurston> ok, cool
[16:44] <Thurston> thanks ThexLeapord
[16:44] <jurism> rm
[16:44] <ThexLeopard> you wont be able to boot ubuntu though
[16:44] <ThexLeopard> if you wanted to
[16:45] <kev_> oskude, would you save its safe to install 8.10 now?
[16:45] <ThexLeopard> but i suppose you dont
[16:45] <Thurston> im fine with that. im going to delete the partition with partition magic 8
[16:45] <oskude> kev_, no
[16:45] <Thurston> im just having too many problems with wine and my ati graphics card
[16:45] <ThexLeopard> then yeah, run fixmbr
[16:45] <zossso> anyone have experience syncing the calendar in Ubuntu with an iPhone or iPod Touch?
[16:45] <poolisclozed> i need help
[16:45] <user01> favro, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=610839 how could that be the first if it was supported in gutsy?
[16:45] <poolisclozed> distro for a server
[16:45] <Thurston> im going to wait intuil im im the navy and i get a nvidia laptop from the navy exchange
[16:45] <poolisclozed> needs a GUI
[16:45] <ThexLeopard> do you have the right drivers installed?
[16:45] <Thurston> yes
[16:45] <ThexLeopard> ah ok
[16:46] <ThexLeopard> i know theres problems with ati for san andreas
[16:46] <favro> user01: read at ati.com
[16:46] <Thurston> its just that ati+linux=hell
[16:46] <ThexLeopard> that will only run with nvidia apparently
[16:46] <ThexLeopard> rofl
[16:46] <agent> how do i allow the default places -> bookmark list longer to show more than 5 bookmarks? (i cannot find anything in gconf)
[16:46] <jimmmym> My friend ran into a problem when his harddrive was formatted by windows recovery...anyway of retrieving files after that?
[16:46] <kev_> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/alpha-4/
[16:46] <EvilDennisR> Can someone tell me where the ChangeLog for packages are on archive.ubuntu.com ? I don't have any updates right now, so I can't just find out from update-manager =(
[16:46] <Thurston> and nVidia+Linux=bliss and it pisses me off, lol
[16:46] <jimmmym> I was able to recover files I deleted on ubuntu with ntfsundelete, but would it work for files that werent deleted from within windows
[16:46] <jurism> How to extract tgz file? I use tar xvfz but I need to extract all files in one directory, I don't want to keep directory structure. Anyone?
[16:46] <ThexLeopard> cheers atlef
[16:46] <ThexLeopard> ill give it a go
[16:46] <jimmmym> Rather ones that were on a formatted harddrive?
[16:47] <kev_> jurism, tar -vxf file.gz
[16:47] <oskude> agent, strange, i have 8 entries there, and this is sock ubuntu 8.04
[16:47] <jurism> thank You!
[16:47] <atlef> agent: in nautilus drag any folder to the left bottom of the sidebar
[16:47] <shentino> kev: huh???
[16:47] <EvilDennisR> ..never mind, I foudn it
[16:47] <Marcin26P> ThexLeopard: hmm witch versiom ?? latest version latest legacy ??
[16:48] <poolisclozed> GUYS
[16:48] <Guest45910> :)
[16:48] <poolisclozed> ok fuck you faggots
[16:48] <poolisclozed> not helpin me
[16:48] <poolisclozed> useless bitches
[16:48] <jurism> =)
[16:48] <poolisclozed> GO EAT A DICK NIGGERS
[16:48] <kev_> lame
[16:48] <jurism> Why are you so angry? =)
[16:48] <Guest45910> :)
[16:48] <ThexLeopard> marcin, it should tell you in the thread
[16:48] <Guest45910> be cool like me
[16:48] <Guest45910> :)
[16:48] <user01> favro, my card isnt even listed
[16:48] <bazhang> !ot
[16:49] <bazhang> please take chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:49] <shentino> I'm wondering though...if the latest ubuntu CD can install with LVM
[16:49] <loquitus_of_bor1> Hey people. I plug an external USB drive (which is formatted EXT3) and Ubuntu Hardy mounts it automatically but it is not readable by my logged in user. How do I configure Ubuntu to specify to it what user to automatically mount such partitions as?
[16:49] <lg188> HELLO
[16:49] <bazhang> shentino, use the alternate cd
[16:50] <Guest45910> how dy
[16:50] <lg188> oops worn channel
[16:50] <kev_> hum.. how to fix the sound on ubuntu..
[16:50] <Der_Jaguan> question, i want to share folder, i clickt right, tick share this folder, but dann popups you havent the rights to ... permissions ore something like that
[16:50] <favro> user01: use the ati driver in xorg.conf and save some stress and angst
[16:50] <Guest45910> who know how to remove symbolic link
[16:50] <ikonia> Guest45910: just remove it like a regular file
[16:50] <agent> oskie, atlef: do you guys have more than 5 bookmarks listed under "places" or does it change into a bookmark menu after 5 entries?
[16:50] <favro> user01: that's ati not fglrx - the ati is ubuntu supplied
[16:50] <Guest45910> can use command prompt?
[16:51] <Der_Jaguan> does anybody speak german?
[16:51] <bazhang> !de
[16:51] <Guest45910> How can we list all the symbolic link
[16:51] <bazhang> Der_Jaguan, /j #ubuntu-de
[16:51] <Guest45910> I don't know where it located.. :(
[16:51] <shentino> bz: alternate CD?
[16:51] <oskude> agent, i got 8 entries unde Places->Bookmarks (could be that it was directly under Places with 5 entries)
[16:51] <ikonia> Guest45910: sure
[16:51] <bazhang> !alternate | shentino
[16:51] <ikonia> Guest45910: what do you want to remove and why
[16:51] <anyone> Lets say I download a video in mp4 format. I want to, for each second, make a image copying the video as it is at that second. Is there a way to do this?
[16:52] <agent> oskude, that is what i don't want... i would like it to stay under "places" instead of automatically making it into a places -> bookmarks
[16:52] <MIKED> hi there, I am having trouble getting my sound to work; it seems to work on firefox but not vlc player
[16:52] <oskude> anyone, "mencoder" can do probably do it
[16:52] <ikonia> anyone: something like mencoder can do it frame by frame
[16:52] <user01> favro, how do i know which one it is using now?  xorg.conf doesnt say
[16:53] <ikonia> anyone: you'd have to script it a little to do frame 1, then frame + 1, then frame +1 etc etc, in a loop
[16:53] <anyone> OK, is there documentation for it?
[16:53] <agent> oskude, i just read that this is not changeable in any config (silly gnome!), but one must change the source and recompile gnome-panel :(
[16:53] <oskude> agent, maybe you have luck in gnome irc channel
[16:53] <user01> favro, i assume ati
[16:53] <favro> user01: in a terminal type   lspci | grep VGA
[16:53] <oskude> agent, OMG, thats bitter :)
[16:53] <shentino> Ok, alternate CD.  Is there a place where I can order a free one?
[16:53] <anyone> I'll look at VLC as well
[16:53] <agent> oskude, yes it is! thank you for your help though!
[16:53] <anyone> thanks ikonia
[16:53] <anyone> bye
[16:53] <ikonia> anyone: tons and tons
[16:53] <Guest45910> I also don't know what I need to remove
[16:54] <Guest45910> So I  need to know what link is exist
[16:54] <ikonia> Guest45910: what do you want to achive and why
[16:54] <Marcin26P> ej jak wylaczyc srodowisko graficzne z consoli ?
[16:54] <ikonia> Guest45910: what is the problem
[16:54] <MIKED> hi there, I am having trouble getting my sound to work; it seems to work on firefox but not vlc player
[16:54] <bazhang> Guest45910, then why would you ask to remove it.
[16:54] <atlef> agent: it turns into a bookmarkfolder, yes
[16:54] <Guest45910> then I will decide which link shld be remove
[16:54] <favro> user01: if you haven't done any installing it would use ati - but with what options? - x in hardy is the pits!
[16:54] <oskude> agent, maybe you could user "drawer" to have all mounts in one dropdown ?
[16:54] <bazhang> !pl | Marcin26P
[16:54] <ikonia> Guest45910: explain your problem
[16:55] <Guest45910> I suspect the link clash with my applicaion
[16:55] <Guest45910> application
[16:55] <ikonia> Guest45910: what application, what issue, what link
[16:55] <ikonia> Guest45910: please provide detail
[16:55] <Guest45910> I don't ...
[16:55] <jurism> kev_, tar -vxf file.gz extracts all files and keeps directory structure! How to no to keep directory structure and extract all files in one directory?
[16:55] <MIKED> hi there, I am having trouble getting my sound to work; it seems to work on firefox but not vlc player
[16:55] <Guest45910> Just teach me how to list all the existing symbolic link
[16:56] <ikonia> Guest45910: just answer the quesiton
[16:56] <ikonia> Guest45910: what application, what problem, and why do you think it's a symlink thats the problem
[16:56] <favro> MIKED: try closing firefox then opening vlc
[16:56] <bazhang> Guest45910, sounds like there is no problem.
[16:56] <shentino> jurism: are you sure that no two files have the same basename?
[16:56] <Guest45910> LIBTIFF = "-L/usr/lib -ltiff"
[16:57] <Guest45910> is this is a kind of symbolic link?
[16:57] <ikonia> Guest45910: n
[16:57] <ikonia> Guest45910: no
[16:57] <MIKED> alright let me try
[16:57] <Guest45910> TIFFINC =/usr/include
[16:57] <agent> oskude, i don't think you can add bookmarks to the drawer... and it would be a pain to keep adding/removing them all... thanks for the idea though.... i guess i'll have to live with the extra menu item :D
[16:57] <ikonia> Guest45910: please just tell me what your trying to do
[16:57] <Guest45910> TIFFBIN=/usr/bin
[16:57] <jurism> I am not sure...
[16:57] <Guest45910> I saw this all in the scrpting
[16:57] <ikonia> Guest45910: thats not an application then
[16:57] <MIKED> ok that seems to have done something
[16:57] <Guest45910> My problem is
[16:58] <MIKED> rythmbox and vlc now have sound
[16:58] <ikonia> Guest45910: if you refuse to exaplain what your doing, we can't help
[16:58] <MIKED> how can I fix this?
[16:58] <Guest45910> I install a package in Package Manager
[16:58] <Guest45910> call HylaFax
[16:58] <brumen> xgl_question: How does one disable Xgl process in Hardy? I dont want the Xgl effects and disabling this in Appearance->Visual effects still starts the Xgl
[16:58] <ikonia> Guest45910: I know hylafax
[16:58] <Guest45910> First Time I install using the Synaptic Manager
[16:58] <Guest45910> it works
[16:58] <MIKED> I need to install the Hylafax package ??
[16:58] <ikonia> NigelS_: no
[16:59] <ikonia> oops
[16:59] <bazhang> MIKED, no
[16:59] <ikonia> MIKED: no
[16:59] <MIKED> lol ok
[16:59] <Guest45910> the Ubuntu Package manager HylaFax is a bit old version 4.3
[16:59] <Guest45910> There is a bug not fixed
[16:59] <ikonia> Guest45910: which bug
[16:59] <Guest45910> Then I try to install version 5.2.7
[17:00] <Guest45910> Actually x bug but I craete bug ...lol
[17:00] <Guest45910> Then I download a source package from internet
[17:00] <Guest45910> the run
[17:00] <Guest45910> ./configure
[17:00] <Guest45910> make
[17:00] <FloodBot1> Guest45910: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:00] <Guest45910> make install
[17:00] <bazhang> Guest45910, dont use the enter key as punctuation
[17:00] <Guest45910> okie
[17:00] <oskude> Guest45910, i assume you did: sudo make install
[17:00] <bazhang> Guest45910, dont compile; use what is in repos
[17:00] <logankoester> What needs to be restarted after editing /etc/modprobe.d/options to enact the change?
[17:01] <MIKED> guys is there a way for me to fix this bug ?
[17:01] <Guest45910> before install version 5.2.7, I uninstall the version 4.3
[17:01] <Thurston> hey guys. im trying to remove ubuntu due to ati being shit and wine not working right. i need to remove ubuntu and grub because i tried to just delete the partitions but grub was still on there and i kept getting error 22, and my pc was just stuck there. hwo do i go about removing everything properly?
[17:01] <bazhang> Guest45910, what bug; please give link
[17:01] <bazhang> Thurston, no cursing
[17:01] <Guest45910> After successfully installed, now my server didnot works...
[17:01] <Thurston> sorry
[17:02] <Guest45910> It even more worst as Hylafax 4.3
[17:02] <jurism> man tar
[17:02] <Guest45910> Not bug
[17:02] <Guest45910> But didn't works
[17:02] <bazhang> Guest45910, this is why you never compile; especially when you dont know what you are doing. newer is not better
[17:02] <ArthurArchnix> Thurston: That would depend on what you put on there.
[17:02] <Thurston> what do you mean?
[17:02] <oskude> Thurston, removing GRUB doesnt help you, you have to install the ms-windows boot loader, which i luckily already forgot everything #windows ?
[17:02] <Guest45910> The hylaFax scheduler did not run
[17:02] <kev_> Can only one help me fix the sound for ubuntu 8.04 it was working fine until i rebooted?
[17:03] <kev_> can anyone*
[17:03] <Thurston> ok...i'll give that channel a try
[17:03] <Thurston> thanks guys
[17:03] <ArthurArchnix> Thurston it would depend on what OS you installed.
[17:03] <Guest45910> But It wrote there "Stable" version
[17:03] <Thurston> im on xp pro, wich is what i want. but i was trying to fiddle with ubuntu
[17:03] <Guest45910> Now My Server cannot server already... Then I panic
[17:04] <logankoester> Can anyone tell me what I need to do after editing /etc/modprobe.d/options?
[17:04] <logankoester> Surely I don't need to restart the whole machine?
[17:04] <ArthurArchnix> Ok... xp pro has a cd that you can run that has a recovery console. Pop that in, then run fixmbr
[17:04] <ArthurArchnix> Thurston: ^^
[17:04] <Guest45910> Reinstall back the version 4.3 , but it try to point back version 5.2.7
[17:04] <bazhang> !windows
[17:04] <Guest45910> Headache...
[17:04] <Guest45910> What matter?
[17:04] <Thurston> well i tried. but the only thing close to recovery is ASR wich needs a floppy
[17:04] <onefunk> greetings all, i have a newbie question. when i install a new version of ubuntu do i have to re-install everything and reset everything?
[17:05] <ArthurArchnix> Thurston: People are getting upset you want help removing Ubuntu... PM me and I will walk you through it.
[17:05] <Khisanth> oO
[17:06] <Khisanth> Thurston: supergrub disk if you have a blank cd
[17:06] <dbrewer_rjr> i just installed nessus on my ubuntu server, i need to demo it to my boss. I have no gui on my server. can I make it do a port scan or something?
[17:06] <MIKED> guys is there a way for me to fix this bug ?
[17:06] <IdleOne> ArthurArchnix: no one is getting upset it is just that we try to help people with the ubuntu issues not remove ubuntu. help with installing another OS should be directed to the proper channel for that OS
[17:06] <Guest45910> bazhange still there?
[17:06] <bazhang> Guest45910, yes
[17:06] <Khisanth> hmm I guess you don't need a CD, USB works too
[17:06] <Guest45910> how dy...
[17:06] <tux> i need help, i can't ecord!!!dit master boot re
[17:07] <tux> i can't edit master boot record!
[17:07] <oskude> tux, you need root rights to edit MBR
[17:07] <shentino> I'm at the ubuntu media request page.
[17:07] <Guest45910> the version 4.3 some number can fax and some number cannot fax
[17:07] <shentino> What was the name of that alternate CD again?
[17:07] <Guest45910> that why I change it to 5.2.7
[17:07] <wersdaluv> can I sync google and evolution contacts?
[17:07] <tux> oskie, tried ubuntu, sabayon, gentoo they can't inject grub in mbr
[17:07] <bazhang> shentino, 'alternate cd'
[17:07] <tux> they give me an error
[17:07] <shentino> ok
[17:07] <shentino> thankx
[17:08] <pegasos> Heya! I need to mount an NTFS filesystem but it fails because NTFS is marked as being in use. Can I get past this in any way? I only need to read from there, not write
[17:08] <oskude> tux, what error *exactly* do you get ?
[17:08] <IdleOne> shentino: for alternate cd you need to check the box if downloading and the name if requesting cd's is pretty much straight forward
[17:08] <wiherna> hola
[17:08] <bazhang> Guest45910, that is what caused you problems; you should asked for help with the repos hylafax before doing that.
[17:08] <wiherna> que tal
[17:08] <bazhang> wiherna, english please
[17:09] <Kenny> hello there, quick question. I can boot the live cd and check with it wether my hardware is recognized and working on ubuntu, right?
[17:09] <captainm> Kenny: jup
[17:09] <SlimeyPete> yes.
[17:09] <tux> oskie, installation fails due to a error, can't install grub in the mbr
[17:09] <bazhang> Kenny, yes
[17:09] <Guest45910> how?
[17:09] <Kenny> ok, cool, thanks
[17:09] <tux> and can't setup it neither booting from a live cd and using grub, root, setup... etc..
[17:09] <oskude> tux, does it say why it cant install grub in the MBR ?
[17:10] <tux> yes
[17:10] <Guest45910> bazhange: May I know which version Hyalafax you are using now?
[17:10] <Kenny> oh, is there something like a hardware manager too on ubuntu? to check the recognized hardware?
[17:10] <bazhang> Guest45910, you removed it, correct?
[17:10] <Guest45910> I not very quite sure
[17:10] <Speedy> Kenny,  yes
[17:11] <Guest45910> I uninstall everything
[17:11] <Speedy> just run the live cd
[17:11] <Guest45910> delete the /etc/hylafax
[17:11] <favro> Kenny: sudo lshw in a terminal
[17:11] <Speedy> and see if everything works
[17:11] <Guest45910> and delete /var/spool/hylafax
[17:11] <Kenny> ok ok thanks
[17:11] <oskude> Kenny, there seems to be System -> Administration -> Hardware Testing
[17:11] <Guest45910> then restart my Server... I hope this may help
[17:11] <Kenny> oskude, thanks ill check it out
[17:12] <Guest45910> May I know how to install the HylaFax again?
[17:12] <godzirra> Can anyone help me get my RTL8101 card working with Hardy?  I've tried googling and doing a number of things, but none of them seem to work.  In windows it says its an RTL8187 card.
[17:12] <MIKED> hey can anyone help me out, I can't seem to see my windows drive in "places"
[17:12] <pedro> whats the closer thing to dreamweaver i could get on linux?
[17:12] <bazhang> Guest45910, why did you delete those directories?
[17:12] <oskude> pedro, KompoZer
[17:12] <spider> ciao a tutti
[17:12] <Guest45910> because related with HyalaFax
[17:12] <bazhang> !samba | MIKED
[17:13] <Guest45910> only this two directory related
[17:13] <bazhang> !it | spider
[17:13] <spider> grazie
[17:13] <Guest45910> What happen when I deleted those directory?
[17:13] <bazhang> Guest45910, that is never the way to remove apps.
[17:13] <Guest45910> How can I recover back my server?
[17:13] <regeya> speaking of samba and cooperating with windows environments, has anyone had luck printing from cups to windows-shared printers via smb on an amd64 system?
[17:14] <Guest45910> I really don't know what to do now. that why I am here ...
[17:14] <bastid_raZor> MIKED; possibly you don't have that drive mounted? i assume the drive is in your computer right? not a network share?
[17:14] <bazhang> Guest45910, how are you installing items? with a gui or a cli
[17:14] <MIKED> yes
[17:14] <Guest45910> Go to package Manager
[17:14] <Guest45910> Synaptic Package Manager
[17:15] <bazhang> Guest45910, synaptic? then look for hylafax
[17:15] <bastid_raZor> MIKED; sudo fdisk -l (lowercase L) and do you see that drive?
[17:15] <Guest45910> That one is regular I did it
[17:15] <bazhang> Guest45910, is it installed?
[17:15] <Guest45910> but when the time upgrade to 5.2.7, I use the source pacakge
[17:15] <GuySoft> hi all, after loging in from gdm, i have no keyboard, what could be worng?
[17:16] <MIKED> yea i see it
[17:16] <Guest45910> that why the 4.3 and 5.2.7 clash...
[17:16] <Guest45910> Can i delete /etc/init.d/hylafax also?
[17:17] <jitka> hello
[17:17] <jitka> could somebodey help me with ubuntu services?
[17:18] <pedro> hey, i need a webeditor, i downloaded this KompoZer but it doesn't seems to work with php
[17:18] <pedro> i need one that opens it at least
[17:18] <bastid_raZor> MIKED; you need to add that drive to you /etc/fstab and have it a mountpoint for it
[17:18] <Guest45910> Haiz
[17:19] <MIKED> ok, how do I do that
[17:19] <oskude> pedro, just select "all files" as file type in the open dialog of kompozer...
[17:19] <captainm> !anyone | jitka
[17:19] <ftornell> pedro: gui webeditor or a notepad++ lookalike?
[17:19] <Guest45910> Any suggestion how to install HylaFax 4.2.7 easily?
[17:19] <Guest45910> Thank
[17:20] <bastid_raZor> MIKED; what is the device name for the drive? /dev/something here?
[17:21] <oskude> pedro, any php files are just normal text files, so you can edit them with any text editor...
[17:21] <Rampage> The unlock button on my Network gui is greyed out, I'm not sure how I can fix this. Any ideas?
[17:21] <Pupeno> Hello.
[17:22] <Pupeno> Anybody running a mail server with imap and server-side filtering?
[17:22] <ArthurArchnix> Well... either he has the slowest computer I've ever seen, or I've helped him to hose his MBR
[17:22] <captainm> Guest45910: It's not in the repositories? The halifax website offers .debs to download.
[17:22] <jitka>  ubottu:
[17:22] <jitka>  ubottu:i see
[17:22] <sharperguy> How do I write to an external drive containing an hfs+ filesystem?
[17:22] <oskude> Rampage, the user your are using doesnt belong to the Administrator group ?
[17:22] <MIKED> i beleive it is /dev/sda1
[17:23] <oskude> Rampage, look under System -> Administration -> Users and Groups if the user is allowed to administer the system
[17:23] <Rampage> oskude: i am a member of the admin group, I've always been able to unlock it before
[17:23] <freakazoid> anyone wanna help me ? im trying to work out how to setup a SOCKS proxy on my ubuntu machine, so i can use it from my windows machine ?
[17:23] <Guest45910> how to uninstall the deb package
[17:23] <oskude> Rampage, and you are locked in as that user ? (just to be sure:)
[17:24] <oskude> *logged
[17:24] <geek_> Guest45910: should be able to use apt
[17:24] <Rampage> oskude: yes I am logged in with the admin user
[17:25] <oskude> Rampage, hmm
[17:25] <freakazoid> anyone wanna help me ? im trying to work out how to setup a SOCKS proxy on my ubuntu machine, so i can use it from my windows machine ?
[17:25] <bastid_raZor> MIKED; you need to be sure that is the correct id.. if it is.. sudo blkid /dev/sda1   :this is going to give you a UUID that you'll need to use in fstab
[17:25] <Rampage> oskude: I can't unlock anything it seems even the users and groups
[17:26] <kantor> hi, I've downloaded a flac music album. The problem is that all the tracks are in a big flac file and you need the cue file (which is also there) to write that to a CD. My question is: is there a program that strips the tracks from that big flac file based on the cue file ?
[17:26] <MIKED> alright
[17:26] <oskude> Rampage, thats very odd. try relog... yeah a cheap test
[17:26] <jitka> where in ubuntu i can set starting services when is starting the system?
[17:26] <Guest45910> but Package manager cannot retrieve the latest version of Hylafax
[17:26] <MIKED> i typed that in terminal but it didnt do anything
[17:26] <Rampage> oskude: Although it i try System -> Administration -> Software Sources it picks up the password and opens
[17:27] <oskude> Ragnarel, can you do on Terminal: sudo echo hello
[17:27] <Rampage> Okay I'll kill gdm and relogin to test. brb oskude
[17:27] <oskude> Ragnarel, ment Rampage , sorry
[17:28] <Guest45910> Thank guys
[17:28] <Guest45910> want go...
[17:28] <Guest45910> hank a lot
[17:28] <Guest45910> Thank
[17:28] <Rampage> oskude: it asks for the password as usual and returns hello
[17:28] <bastid_raZor> MIKED; okay try sudo vol_id -u /dev/sda1
[17:28] <godzirra> Can anyone help me get my RTL8101 card working with Hardy?  I've tried googling and doing a number of things, but none of them seem to work.  In windows it says its an RTL8187 card.
[17:28] <Rampage> oskude: restarting gdm, brb
[17:29] <freakazoid> anyone wanna help me ? im trying to work out how to setup a SOCKS proxy on my ubuntu machine, so i can use it from my windows machine ?
[17:29] <oskude> Rampage, hmm, do you have stock ubuntu 8.04 or did you do some funny stuff ? ;)
[17:29] <MIKED> i get :/dev/sda1: unknown volume type
[17:31] <bastid_raZor> MIKED; fdisk -l info does /dev/sda1 have under System NTFS? or what does it have?
[17:31] <porncake> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816132015
[17:31] <porncake> if i get that and a esata card would i be able to build a raid5 on ubuntu?
[17:31] <porncake> with 5*1tb
[17:31] <freakazoid> anyone wanna help me ? im trying to work out how to setup a SOCKS proxy on my ubuntu machine, so i can use it from my windows machine ?
[17:31] <guntbert> bastid_raZor: he needs sudo again
[17:32] <MIKED> it does
[17:32] <rampageoberon> oskude: Okay seems to be fine now, but strangely tty7 seems to have some strange errors and the new desktop is at tty9
[17:32] <Slart> !burn
[17:32] <JERONYMO> hallo
[17:32] <Rivas> Hi all
[17:32] <rampageoberon> oskude: Could that have something to do with this?
[17:32] <Rivas> I need some explanation
[17:32] <Rivas> http://www.linux.com/feature/137524
[17:32] <a_run> i disabled something and now when i click system > quit, i don;t get the dialog box showing reboot, logoff, shutdown, hibernate etc
[17:32] <a_run> any ideas ?
[17:32] <JERONYMO> io want to install netbeans to ubuntu
[17:32] <Rivas> On this article : http://www.linux.com/feature/137524
[17:32] <jerbear> anyone know if there's any way to get music onto my iphone from ubuntu?
[17:32] <JERONYMO> how can i make this?
[17:32] <a_run> i disabled pulseaudio and trackerd
[17:33] <Rivas> The author is stating that we should do : mv ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso rescue
[17:33] <gnychis> i updated all of my packages, and it told me to reboot.  When i rebooted, my desktop no longer works... no wallpaper is shown and if i right click on the desktop nothing happens... any ideas?
[17:33] <Rivas> so,move ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso to rescue
[17:33] <Slart> All of a sudden my brasero just segfaults when I try to burn a dvd.. can't really remember if I've updated it lately.. does it work for everyone else?
[17:33] <Rivas> I downloaded this : http://releases.ubuntu.com/hardy/ubuntu-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[17:33] <XX01XX> gnychis... black screen and nothing else?
[17:34] <Rivas> and when I d o : mv ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso rescue
[17:34] <olskolirc> hi hi.  Does anyone know a good wireless keyboard and mouse that I can use with my Gutsy please?
[17:34] <Rivas> it doenst work
[17:34] <oskude> rampageoberon, dunno, sorry
[17:34] <Rivas> ubuntu-8.04-desktop-i386.iso cant be found
[17:34] <Rivas> why ?
[17:34] <rampageoberon> oskude: Thanks anyway, its fixed now so thats good. A reboot will probably restore the tty7 i guess
[17:35] <Geoffrey2> hello, is there some way in Ubuntu to specify a preferred wireless network to connect to if it's available?
[17:35] <jitka> where in ubuntu i can set starting services when is starting the system?
[17:35] <maswan> Rivas: If you look carefully it is 8.04.1 not 8.04 in the middle of the file name
[17:35] <jitka> something like rc-update in gentoo
[17:36] <MIKED> would you like me to send you what I am getting ?
[17:36] <jitka> oh i know how to do it, it is done by clicking in some clicking program....
[17:36] <Slart> !boot | jitka
[17:36] <jitka> 18:33 -!- burnmanp [n=burnmanp@rrcs-67-52-122-114.west.biz.rr.com] has quit ["Leaving"]
[17:36] <jitka> 18:33 -!- AccessExcess [n=axe@82.137.53.157] has joined #ubuntu
[17:36] <jitka> 18:33 < rampageoberon> oskude: Thanks anyway, its fixed now so thats good. A reboot will probably restore the tty7 i guess
[17:36] <bastid_raZor> MIKED; sure pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l
[17:36] <Rivas> mswan
[17:36] <jitka> 18:33 -!- a[2121]e [n=Linux@60.51.1.127] has joined #ubuntu
[17:36] <FloodBot1> jitka: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:36] <jitka> ubottu: thanks very much
[17:36] <Rivas> no such file or directory
[17:36] <Rivas> plz help me
[17:37] <bastid_raZor> MIKED; i'm soon the be leaving.. work in calling.. i can help another few minutes
[17:37] <MIKED> ok
[17:37] <a[2121]e> any comment jitka? :)
[17:37] <guntbert> Rivas: try ls -l ubuntu*
[17:38] <ikonia> guest
[17:38] <ikonia> oops
[17:38] <Rivas> ok
[17:38] <MIKED> pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/40452/
[17:38] <loquitus_of_bor1> Hey people. I am trying to read from my local machine's /dev/zero device to a remote machine's /dev/null. How would I do that?
[17:38] <godzirra> How do I tell what physical network card eth0 is?
[17:38] <xyblor> How can I change the font for the virtual terminals? Is there a config file I can edit?
[17:38] <Slart> loquitus_of_bor1: what are you trying to acomplish?
[17:38] <ikonia> loquitus_of_bor1: can't really do that
[17:39] <zhoushuyu> 能用中文吗？
[17:39] <ikonia> !cn | zhoushuyu
[17:39] <ikonia> !jp | zhoushuyu
[17:39] <loquitus_of_bor1> Slart: trying to test the net connection without any involvement of hard disks
[17:39] <loquitus_of_bor1> slart: LAN connection
[17:40] <Slart> loquitus_of_bor1: ping doesn't do it for you?
[17:40] <loquitus_of_bor1> Slart: speed of data transfer.
[17:40] <cyban> !fakeraid
[17:40] <zhoushuyu> who on line?
[17:40] <ikonia> zhoushuyu: 1000+ people
[17:40] <bastid_raZor> MIKED; sudo vol_id /dev/sda1  :leave off the -u
[17:40] <Rivas> guntbert : cannot be found
[17:40] <bazhang> zhoushuyu, /join #ubuntu-cn
[17:40] <Slart> loquitus_of_bor1: there are tools that can do that for you... iperf is one
[17:41] <Slart> !info iperf
[17:41] <guntbert> Rivas: you must know in what directory you did download
[17:41] <Rivas> ?
[17:41] <loquitus_of_bor1> oh sweet...
[17:41] <loquitus_of_bor1> :)
[17:41] <MIKED> still getting unknown volume type
[17:41] <Rivas> guntbert I dont understand
[17:41] <Rivas> what directory I downloaded ubuntu to ?
[17:42] <guntbert> Rivas: with what program did you download?
[17:42] <bastid_raZor> MIKED; are you on Ubuntu 8.04?
[17:42] <Geoffrey2> when I start my computer, ubuntu detects three different wireless networks, one of which is mine...how do I specify which one it should be connecting to?
[17:43] <godzirra> Can anyone help me get my RTL8101 card working with Hardy?  I've tried googling and doing a number of things, but none of them seem to work.  In windows it says its an RTL8187 card.
[17:43] <Rivas> I download it with free download mmnger in my  windows vista desktop. and i run ubuntu from VirtualBox
[17:43] <Rivas> or do I  need to run itfrom bios ground
[17:43] <ikonia> Geoffrey2: click on the wirless icon in the top right, and select the one you want to connect to
[17:43] <godzirra> How do I tell for sure if my card is an 8187 or an 8101, and which driver do I need to use?
[17:44] <Geoffrey2> ikonia, true, but it gets a bit tiresome to have to do that EVERY time the computer starts up...
[17:44] <guntbert> Rivas: you must move the the file to a place, where ubuntu can reach it, I don't know about virtualBox
[17:44] <mads-> When I do Ctrl+Alt+F1 - what is that called?
[17:44] <MIKED> yes i am
[17:44] <ikonia> Geoffrey2: select it in "manual configuration"
[17:44] <tritium> mads-: you're switching to virtual console #1
[17:44] <mads-> tritium: thanks...
[17:44] <ikonia> Geoffrey2: it should re-connect to the last network is was connected to on reboot, unless the password is not saved (assuming you need a password)
[17:45] <Rivas> guntbert : Virtualbx is a virtual machine app
[17:45] <Rivas> Ok
[17:45] <atlef> Rivas: do you want to install in virtualbox
[17:45] <Rivas> So yes
[17:45] <Rivas> yes
[17:45] <The> join #hopeinenomena.net
[17:45] <mads-> Is it possible when I switch from my X server (GNOME) to a virtual console, that the music will keep playing? When I switch now, the musics mutes or stops
[17:45] <Rivas> lol
[17:45] <atlef> then you need to add it to virtualbox
[17:45] <atlef> Rivas: then you need to add it to virtualbox
[17:45] <Rivas> How ?
[17:46] <Geoffrey2> the password is saved, but every time I start the computer, it connects to the first network on the list...when I manually click on my own, THEN it asks for the password to unlock the default keyring...
[17:46] <darkness_> Would the Compiz desktop effects work well with an Intel i810 video card? if so, how do I make Compiz start upon startup?
[17:46] <KaiForce> anyone know of a good link for installing Slimserver on hardy?
[17:46] <Rivas> I put it at Vbox booting device entry.
[17:46] <Rivas> So that it boot the virtual cd. iso image
[17:46] <ikonia> Geoffrey2: set it in manual configuration
[17:46] <luminous> I also can't do file sharing in virtualbox, but yes there is a way
[17:46] <captainm> darkness_: works great
[17:46] <atlef> Rivas: under the virtual disk manager
[17:46] <luminous> Rivas: Im a regular virtualbox user
[17:46] <Geoffrey2> ikonia, ok, I'll try that again....last time I did that though, I lost all network connectivity....
[17:47] <luminous> atlef: do you know how to share files between a ubuntu host and xp guest?
[17:47] <ikonia> Geoffrey2: that shouldn't be the case, but I appriciate sometimes things go wrong
[17:47] <darkness_> captainm: how do I make Compiz start on startup then?
[17:47] <Rivas> luminous : I dont think it is possible
[17:47] <luminous> darkness_: which de are you using?
[17:47] <cyban> luminous - be on same domain
[17:47] <luminous> Rivas: Ive seen many people doing that
[17:47] <luminous> with samba maybe
[17:47] <Rivas> luminous
[17:47] <darkness_> luminous: gnome
[17:47] <Rivas> direct share ?
[17:48] <Rivas> or removable device/network share ?
[17:48] <atlef> luminous: yes, just add a folder to share under settings in virtualbox's xp machine
[17:48] <luminous> Rivas: don't know, Im also looking for the same
[17:48] <Geoffrey2> ikonia, so I'm taking it out of roaming mode, and providing the specific network name.....
[17:48] <mads-> When switching from GNOME to a virtual console, my music stops or mutes. Is there a way it to keep playing?
[17:49] <freakazoid> anyone wanna help me ? im trying to work out how to setup a SOCKS proxy on my ubuntu machine, so i can use it from my windows machine ?
[17:49] <freakazoid> anyone wanna help me ? im trying to work out how to setup a SOCKS proxy on my ubuntu machine, so i can use it from my windows machine ?
[17:49] <luminous> mads-: virtual console means?
[17:49] <Rivas> luminous : I dont think that cross-transactions(hosto to client / client to host) is supported by vBox
[17:49] <luminous> mads-: shell?
[17:49] <luminous> brb
[17:50] <aket> hello, i need help to remotely excute a command via ssh... anyone free to help ?
[17:50] <atlef> Rivas: read the manual
[17:50] <mads-> aket : what do you need?
[17:50] <ikonia> freakazoid: socks5 is a socks server, although socks servers are really not used any more
[17:50] <atlef> Rivas: http://www.virtualbox.org/download/1.6.4/UserManual.pdf
[17:50] <aket> mads-: I want to do something like ssh at107@matrix01.doc.ic.ac.uk "nohup nice tmp/sim/RFA0.005/testeps > nohup.out &"
[17:50] <Moduliz0r> How would I trigger a script to run whenever a usb memory stick is inserted?
[17:51] <aket> mads-: but it wasn't as I expected
[17:51] <freakazoid> ikonia, i dont think u understand, i want to RUN a socks proxy
[17:51] <freakazoid> to use it
[17:51] <aket> mads-: I want to run testeps remotely and logoff immediately
[17:51] <freakazoid> cause sharing internet from my linux pc doesnt work
[17:51] <mads-> aket : And what is your problem? :)
[17:51] <ikonia> freakazoid: yes, I understand, and the socks5-server is a common server to use, but as I say, its a technology thats not really in use as much as it used to be
[17:52] <Slart> !ics | freakazoid, tried this howto?
[17:52] <freakazoid> yes slart,
[17:52] <freakazoid> works till i reconnect, then net is broken till i del the pkgs it made me get
[17:52] <Slart> freakazoid: reconnect? or reboot?
[17:53] <aket> mads-: sorry, let me check something. I wil get back to you soon
[17:53] <Moduliz0r> How would I make a script to run whenever a usb memory stick is inserted?
[17:53] <mads-> aket : I'm right here :) Just need some kinda description of the problem before I can help :)
[17:53] <chrille> Hi, I really need help
[17:53] <aket> mads-: I just noticed that the nohup.out was written to my base home dir
[17:53] <freakazoid> slart, donno
[17:53] <Slart> freakazoid: you mean it works for a while?
[17:53] <MIKED> hi I was holding someone could help me with some drive problems, I cant seem to see my windows drive
[17:53] <ikonia> Moduliz0r: that used to be managed with hotplug, but as hotplug doesnt exist any more, I assume you could specify in a udev rule which matches your hardware id for the device
[17:53] <freakazoid> no
[17:53] <chrille> I've just bought a Fujitsu Siemens Amilo LI 2732
[17:54] <freakazoid> works till i reconnect
[17:54] <chrille> but I can't get the wireless internet working
[17:54] <Moduliz0r> ikonia: ok :/
[17:54] <chrille> who can help me?
[17:54] <freakazoid> then when i reconnect, the internet doesnt work, even on the host pc
[17:54] <chrille> I'm using Hardy
[17:54] <Araneidae> I see that Ubuntu's `less` tries to be "intelligent" and interpret the file.  How do I turn this brain damaged behaviour off?
[17:54] <Slart> freakazoid: what kind of internet connection do you have?
[17:54] <ikonia> Araneidae: what do you mean ?
[17:54] <freakazoid> dsl
[17:55] <chrille> can any Ubuntu-guru please pm me
[17:55] <dxdemetriou> o Hardy I have problem to use smb:// with nautilus. before when I used this form "smb://username@server" it worked. now it always use the username for the logged in user. the other problem is the error message after I'm trying to connect to some folder inside the server: "Failed to mount Windows share. Please select another viewer and try again". With konqueror is ok, with command-line mounting is ok..
[17:55] <Gnea> !wireless | chrille
[17:55] <Slart> freakazoid: so, what do you mean when you say "reconnect".. reconnect your computer to the LAN? your computer to internet? the other computers to yours??
[17:56] <chrille> Gnea, okay I'll read that
[17:56] <dxdemetriou> !smb
[17:56] <freakazoid> to the internet
[17:57] <Marcin26P> can samone help me with nvidia drivers ??
[17:57] <Araneidae> ikona, for example `less file-ending-in.doc` says "No catdoc available"
[17:57] <MIKED> hi I was holding someone could help me with some drive problems, I cant seem to see my windows drive
[17:58] <cyban> will Ubu software raid and MD device over ride Fakeraid si it can boot?
[17:58] <Araneidae> whereas `cat file-ending-in.doc |less` shows the file like less is supposed do.
[17:58] <Araneidae> Comprehensively brain damaged
[17:58] <ikonia> Araneidae: I see what your saying
[17:58] <Slart> Araneidae: you can't open files with less like that
[17:58] <kevinO> what is bonobo activation server
[17:58] <ikonia> kevinO: gnome component
[17:58] <aket> mads-: sorry, it was my careless that I forgot about the working directory. It works now !
[17:58] <kevinO> ty
[17:59] <aket> mads-: thank you so much
[17:59] <_coredump_> moinsen
[17:59] <Pupeno> what do you use to enable/disable services on ubuntu server?
[17:59] <Slart> Araneidae: nevermind me.. I have to much blood in my caffeine system
[18:00] <Slart> Araneidae: I'll go sit in the corner now..
[18:00] <Araneidae> Slart I was about to flame you -- you caught me just in time!  Have some more coffee
[18:00] <chrille> I can't figure it out, can somebody please help me with the setup of my wireless card??
[18:00] <guntbert> Araneidae: have a look at man less and look for INPUT PREPROCESSOR
[18:00] <Araneidae> rings a bell guntbert
[18:01] <mads-> aket : I didn't even do anything :P Glad you worked it out though :)
[18:01] <Popolon> haaa, don't know who created the stardict package
[18:01] <Popolon> but there is no plugins
[18:01] <Popolon> there are lot of usefull default plugins
[18:01] <Popolon> noone is present :(
[18:01] <ikonia> Araneidae: I can't see a way to disable that within less, I'm curious does more or head behave in the same way
[18:01] <ikonia> Araneidae: I don't have .doc file to test on
[18:01] <Araneidae> Aha: LESSOPEN='| /usr/bin/lesspipe %s'
[18:02] <Popolon> on my linux from scratch version I have  13 default plugins
[18:02] <Araneidae> guntbert hits the nail on the head.  unset LESSOPEN will do the trick (or, rather, hacking my .profile...)
[18:02] <Popolon> what does the package manager done ???
[18:03] <guntbert> Araneidae: all a question of the appropriate hammer ;-)) GTH
[18:03] <ikonia> Popolon: the plugins appear to be in seperate packages
[18:03] <MIKED> hi I was holding someone could help me with some drive problems, I cant seem to see my windows drive
[18:03] <Popolon> ikonia, do you now the name of the package on ubuntu ?
[18:03] <ikonia> Araneidae: ahh I see it in the shell env, nice spot
[18:03] <Popolon> it's on the tarbal by default
[18:03] <Marcin26P> http://wklej.ubuntu.pl/2
[18:03] <ikonia> Popolon: search for stardict - i will list them
[18:04] <Marcin26P> can samone tell me why this is not working ?
[18:04] <Marcin26P> http://wklej.ubuntu.pl/2
[18:04] <m0u5e> MIKED: does fdisk -l give you anything?
[18:04] <ikonia> Marcin26P: define "not working"
[18:04] <Araneidae> Evil feature of less, IMHO, but at least it'll be easy to turn off
[18:04] <MIKED> yes
[18:04] <MIKED> /dev/sta1
[18:04] <Popolon> ikonia, thank you, I'm verry dumb :))
[18:05] <ikonia> MIKED: /dev/sda1 ?
[18:05] <Pupeno> what do you use to enable/disable services on ubuntu server? rcconf or another tool?
[18:05] <ikonia> Pupeno: update-rc ?
[18:05] <Marcin26P> i have just 800x600
[18:05] <Marcin26P> in samthing like safe mode
[18:05] <ikonia> Pupeno: update-rc.s
[18:05] <guntbert> MIKED: please pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l and of cat /etc/fstab
[18:05] <ikonia> Pupeno: update-rc.d
[18:05] <MIKED> yea thats where my windows drive is
[18:05] <jerbear> anyone know how to set a drive as read-only in wine?
[18:06] <ikonia> Marcin26P: your aware that file has has the nv - not nvidia driver hardcoded into it ?
[18:06] <minimec> is there someone with a ATI x1250. Would like to know, what fps rate xou get.
[18:06] <Marcin26P> but its second scren ?
[18:06] <ikonia> minimec: the frames your get will depend on the individaul setup, application, etc etc, it's pointless checking what others get
[18:06] <IdleOne> jerbear: #winehq
[18:06] <Sorlag> hi folks !! how do i convert my videos to be playable on my mobile (3gp/ avi)?
[18:07] <Nece228> recordmydesktop lags very much when im recording desktop
[18:07] <ikonia> Sorlag: use mencoder to encode them to a codec your phone supports
[18:07] <jerbear> IdleOne: i'm trying, no one is responding
[18:07] <m0u5e> Sorlag: try using avidemux or mkvtoolnix
[18:07] <IdleOne> jerbear: need to be patient
[18:07] <MIKED> pasted at http://paste.ubuntu.com/40458/
[18:07] <Marcin26P> brb
[18:08] <jerbear> IdleOne: i am, i'm just branching out :)
[18:08] <minimec> ikonia: I do know that. I get about 1000fps with DVI Connection with a 1680/1050 and I think this is nothing.
[18:08] <ikonia> minimec: if you do know that - why are you asking ?
[18:08] <m0u5e> jerbear: i dont believe theres a way to set a drive as read only in wine... however you could probably specify ~/.wine/drive_c as read only
[18:08] <Sorlag> k ill give those a try.. thanks guys
[18:08] <Vinny``> any multi-monitor people out there?
[18:08] <m0u5e> Sorlag: np
[18:08] <m0u5e> Vinny``: multi-monitor sucks in linux :<
[18:08] <ikonia> Vinny``: just ask the question
[18:08] <ikonia> m0u5e: no it doesn't
[18:08] <Pupeno> ikonia: I don't have any programs called update-rc except update-rc.d
[18:09] <m0u5e> ikonia: its horrible if you're using anything more than vesa / xrender
[18:09] <ikonia> Pupeno: update-rc.d, I correct myself a few seconds after
[18:09] <minimec> ikonia: as 1680/1050 monitor are getting quiet popular... That would at least give me an idea...
[18:09] <wisecapt> join #ubuntu-ru
[18:09] <ikonia> m0u5e: I disagree
[18:09] <guntbert> MIKED: there is an error in the first line of /etc/fstab, you have to edit that file
[18:09] <ikonia> minimec: #ati may be better
[18:09] <m0u5e> ikonia: really? my system is just crap on two screens, its buggy, hard to use, randomly crashes, etc
[18:09] <MIKED> ok
[18:10] <MIKED> how do I edit that file
[18:10] <Vinny``> why is it that I have such a hard time setting this up. I have dual LCD screens (different resolutions: 1280x1024; 1400x900)). I have the dual screens working but half of my KDE taskbar (not shown on the second screen). I'm using twinview with a dual head nvidia card. Any help?
[18:10] <ikonia> m0u5e: I've had positive with intel chips, nvidia chips etc
[18:10] <yao_ziyuan> how do i update to the latest linux kernel?
[18:10] <ikonia> m0u5e: with xinerma, and nvidia's twinview
[18:10] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: you don't
[18:10] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: ubuntu will offer updates when they are available
[18:10] <m0u5e> ikonia: i've used twinview, it doesn't work very well for me
[18:10] <guntbert> MIKED: silly /me, just misread your output, but you will have to edit that file anyway
[18:10] <ikonia> m0u5e: it is card/monitor fussy
[18:10] <MIKED> lol ok
[18:10] <ikonia> m0u5e: no question on that
[18:10] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: i need because my new burner is not supported by this kernel - it can't even read a data cd's files (only read the directories)
[18:11] <minimec> ikonia: I was there, as I was unable to install the new Catalyst 8.8 binary installer on ubuntu. So I went back to the restricted driver.
[18:11] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: what burner is it
[18:11] <Nece228> recordmydesktop lags very much when im recording desktop
[18:11] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: Samsung TS-S652H
[18:11] <yao_ziyuan> *TS-H652H
[18:11] <IdleOne> Nece228: do you have a question or you just want us to know about it
[18:11] <jerbear> is there some trickery that i can do to "alias" the path on my drive as read-only and then add that alias as the drive?
[18:11] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: it can read directories and files from a data cd under windows xp
[18:12] <ikonia> jerbear: ask in #winehq - it' specialist
[18:12] <m0u5e> ikonia:  :<
[18:12] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: so i think it is a real samsung product
[18:12] <Nece228> idleone: dont talk s*** i wanna record my desktop
[18:12] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: problem is under ubuntu it can only read a data cd's directories, not copy files from it
[18:12] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: if it can read it, the drive is supported
[18:12] <guntbert> MIKED: it would be easier with a GUI-tool, but I don't know if such exists in ubuntu
[18:12] <Nece228> idleone: i tried everythink everythink starts to horribly lag when im starting to record desktop
[18:13] <IdleOne> Nece228: **** you is just as bad as me typing it out. you have not specified a question. what do you want us to help you do?
[18:13] <ikonia> Nece228: if you can't speak without swearing - please don't speak
[18:13] <MIKED> :/... you tell me
[18:13] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: it can only read directories, not copy files from these directories
[18:13] <IdleOne> Nece228: how do the recordings turn out? do they run fine?
[18:13] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: what happen when you to copy from it
[18:13] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: says I/O error
[18:13] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: ok - so thats not a driver issue
[18:13] <Nece228> idleone: when i start to record desktop session, my pc starts to lag horribly
[18:14] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: "Error reading from file: Input/output error"
[18:14] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: I'd put $100 that says a kernel update would not fix that
[18:14] <m0u5e> is there a way for check my LCDs hardware rated max brightness, and what my software setting is currently at?
[18:14] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: what issue is it, then?
[18:14] <IdleOne> Nece228: perhaps you need to upgrade ram. without more info we cannot help you diagnose what could be causing the lag
[18:14] <m0u5e> even though i'm at max brightness for ubunutu, i dont think i am as bright as my lcd actually supports :/
[18:15] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: , could the physical cd, the way it was burnt, the BUS on the motherboard, cable, etc, 100 things
[18:15] <Nece228> idleone: i have 512 mb ram, 3000+ amd 64, when i had 900 mhz duron i had no lag
[18:15] <ikonia> Nece228: what video card do you have
[18:15] <MIKED> so how come this file isnt correct ?
[18:15] <Nece228> idleone: radeon 9600 256mb
[18:15] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: but the same bus, IDE cable can run my previous DVD drive well - read files from a CD/DVD
[18:15] <ikonia> Nece228: and interesting experience would be to open the system monitor - start to record and see if the / what resources become busy
[18:15] <ikonia> Nece228: I suspect its the video drives
[18:15] <ikonia> drivers
[18:15] <Nece228> ok
[18:16] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: fair point, potential issue with the bus/drive/media/burn then?
[18:16] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: and the same data cd can be read under a windows machine well
[18:16] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: windows = works doesn't not mean it will/should work under ubuntu
[18:16] <guntbert> MIKED: search google for "ubuntu mount windows"
[18:16] <Nece228> idleone: recordmydesktop uses biggest amount of cpu - 25 %
[18:17] <MIKED> this will tell me how to fix my problem ??
[18:17] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: i think it's a deliberate anti-linux campaign by microsoft + samsung!
[18:17] <IdleOne> Nece228: try lowering the frames per second in the advanced option
[18:17] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: I think thats nonsense
[18:17] <ikonia> Nece228: I'd put money on the ati drivers being an issue, straight off the bat
[18:17] <ikonia> Nece228: thats normally the weakest link in any system with an ati card in with display issues
[18:17] <guntbert> MIKED: I suppose - one of the first 5 hits
[18:17] <cyban> anyone know if Software Raid in Ubu will over ride Fakeraid controllers to allow install?
[18:17] <MIKED> ok
[18:18] <ikonia> cyban: disable fake raid controller, use software raid only
[18:18] <cyban> cant in the bios :/
[18:18] <ikonia> cyban: you can
[18:18] <ikonia> cyban: there is an option to disable fake raid or use "normal" or "ide" disk
[18:18] <hwilde> disable everything you don't need
[18:18] <Nece228> ikonia: the problem isnt with video drivers, ive tried with opensource and proprietary drivers but still same issue
[18:18] <ikonia> Nece228: and both are weak
[18:18] <cyban> scsi fakeraid
[18:19] <ikonia> cyban: disable it in the scsi bios then
[18:19] <cyban> but I see no option for it on this BIOS
[18:19] <ikonia> cyban: it will be on the card bios
[18:19] <ikonia> cyban: not the motherboard bios
[18:19] <Nece228> idleone: same issue
[18:19] <cyban> ya been tryin to get into it, this server is kind of a pos
[18:20] <cyban> well, nice server, pos config
[18:20] <IdleOne> Nece228: ikonia suggested the video drivers might be the issue. perhaps if you are nice to him he can help you figure it out
[18:21] <Nece228> ikonia: figure it out
[18:21] <cyban> ok if I manage to disable fakeraid in the controller, set up the software raid for raid 0 with 2 80gb disks and select auto partition should work?
[18:21] <Nece228> idleone: oh , and sorry for that ****
[18:21] <ikonia> Nece228: I've asked you once about the language, Please stop
[18:22] <Nece228> idleone: hey i didnt said anythink wrong
[18:22] <IdleOne> lol Nece228 that is not going to gain favor with ikonia . and no worries about the language. just be nice and people will be nice back
[18:22] <ikonia> cyban: well, yes, but raid 0, in my opinion is not something that should be used for anything other than non-critical file systems with an above average IO need
[18:22] <IdleOne> ikonia: he was saying sorry
[18:22] <Nece228> idleone: ive never thinked that * means bad word
[18:22] <ikonia> IdleOne: he didn't need to use another set of stars
[18:22] <MIKED> its being weird, it keeps saying it cannot find my dev/sta1
[18:22] <mads-> When switching from GNOME to a virtual console, my music stops or mutes. Is there a way it to keep playing?
[18:22] <IdleOne> ikonia: aggreed
[18:22] <cyban> its just a test server, non critical - my samba servers are on Fedora but wanted to try out Ubu
[18:22] <IdleOne> agreed
[18:22] <ikonia> MIKED: the driver is /dev/sda1
[18:23] <Odd-rationale> mads-: you can use something like mpd
[18:23] <ikonia> MIKED: the drive is /dev/sda1 - not /dev/sta1
[18:23] <Odd-rationale> mads-: or mocp
[18:23] <Popolon>  dict.cn doesn't work :((
[18:23] <mads-> Odd-rationale: Thanks, I'll look that up :)
[18:23] <Nece228> ikonia: how can i fix my issue?
[18:23] <Popolon> on the same network, this work on my lfs box
[18:23] <ikonia> Nece228: I'm sorry, I'm busy
[18:24] <Popolon> what's this problem ???
[18:24] <MIKED> yesyes
[18:24] <Popolon> it's activated
[18:24] <ikonia> Nece228: I have given you some simple pointers to help diagnose the issue
[18:24] <Nece228> ikonia: or wait, ive seen in youtube clip when guy with radeon 9600 recorded desktop
[18:24] <Nece228> ikonia: so i dont think its driver problem
[18:24] <cyban> ... ok see if this works, unplug one of the HD's heh
[18:24] <ikonia> Nece228: that means nothing
[18:24] <cyban> for me, not you Nece
[18:25] <ikonia> Nece228: there are multple hardware vedoras with that chipset, multiple drivers, etc
[18:25] <cgibin> why doesnt ubuntu have hosts.allow ?
[18:25] <ol_schoola> greetings all
[18:25] <ikonia> Nece228: I suggest you walk through the debugging suggestion I have you
[18:25] <ikonia> cgibin: install tcp wrappers and it will
[18:25] <mads-> Odd-rationale: But those two, doesn't they also "shut up" when not in the active virtual environment ?
[18:25] <cgibin> ikonia, nice
[18:26] <cgibin> apt-get install wrappers
[18:26] <HardDriveBlues> Good Morning
[18:26] <cgibin> mornin
[18:26] <node357> !info tcp-wrappers
[18:26] <ol_schoola> morning
[18:26] <node357> :(
[18:26] <ikonia> cgibin: I think the package is tcpd
[18:26] <cgibin> kewl let me try that
[18:26] <HardDriveBlues> Can someone help me with: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=897000
[18:27] <Odd-rationale> mads-: well, they have a daemon that runs. you can close the client, and still have the daemon running. So you can listen to your music after you log off, even if you restart X
[18:27] <cgibin> let me search for it doesnt seem to exists
[18:27] <Marcin26P> pls help samone :/ http://wklej.ubuntu.pl/3
[18:27] <Marcin26P> i dont know what to do now
[18:27] <mads-> Odd-rationale: kewl :) Thanks
[18:27] <ol_schoola> i just switched from FC/CentOS for my mythtv backend, have a quick init question...
[18:27] <Marcin26P> my card is gf fx go 5200
[18:27] <node357> cgibin, ikonia is right, it's tcpd
[18:27] <Marcin26P> :/
[18:28] <ikonia> Marcin26P: check the nvidia module is loaded
[18:28] <Marcin26P> ikonia: haw to check ?
[18:28] <ikonia> Marcin26P: lsmod
[18:28] <HardDriveBlues> modprobe
[18:28] <ikonia> HardDriveBlues: no
[18:28] <HardDriveBlues> roger
[18:28] <HardDriveBlues> mybad
[18:28] <yao_ziyuan> wow, men, i even googled a linux.kernel discussion message about adding my burner type to linux kernel: http://groups.google.com/group/linux.kernel/browse_thread/thread/a759e517d64434e5
[18:28] <yao_ziyuan> means this burner type is quite new
[18:28] <IdleOne> HardDriveBlues: lsmod will list the loaded modules
[18:28] <Marcin26P> agpgart                34760  2 nvidia,intel_agp
[18:28] <Lusule> hi there, my wireless network died and i can't work out how to get it back again, how do i get up the program that browses broadcasting networks so i can choose one?
[18:29] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: yes, I see
[18:29] <HardDriveBlues> netmanager
[18:29] <ol_schoola> the redhat dists allow "service networking restart" and such
[18:29] <ikonia> Marcin26P: no, you should just have "nvidia" as a module
[18:29] <Marcin26P> so ?
[18:29] <Marcin26P> what to do ?
[18:29] <ikonia> Marcin26P: sudo modprobe nvidia
[18:29] <ikonia> !nvidia > Marcin26P
[18:29] <ol_schoola> is there an ubuntu equivalent or do i just shoot them off from /etc/init.d?
[18:29] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: so i wait some time until linux kernel fully support my burner, right?
[18:30] <Marcin26P> nvidia               3934028  0
[18:30] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: seems the most sensible
[18:30] <Marcin26P> ther is one ;)
[18:30] <sinan> This might sound stupid, but how does audio work in Linux? Can anyone direct me to more information?
[18:30] <ikonia> Marcin26P: good
[18:30] <ol_schoola> apt recommended ubuntu-script-helpers or sysvcontrol
[18:30] <ikonia> Marcin26P: so the module is loaded
[18:30] <casp3> windows demands a password when i try to connect to another pc in my intranet - how can i find out which one it is?
[18:30] <ikonia> ol_schoola: update-rc.d
[18:30] <cyban> im going to kick a puppy if this works.....
[18:30] <casp3> ubuntu -> windows
[18:30] <ol_schoola> thx iconia
[18:30] <Lusule> hi ikonia :)
[18:30] <ikonia> Lusule: hello
[18:31] <Lusule> anyone able to help me work out how to get my wireless network back up?
[18:31] <MikeSeth> sinan: kernel drivers expose sound devices through /dev/xxx, xxx dependent on driver family. Applications read/write to /dev/xxx or use sound services to do it for them
[18:31] <MikeSeth> Lusule: ask a question
[18:31] <node357> sinan, I wish I knew how Linux audio worked... they keep changing it :P
[18:31] <Lusule> MikeSeth, i just did
[18:31] <danix> hola
[18:31] <hwilde> !alsa > node357
[18:31] <Lusule> MikeSeth, twice now
[18:31] <node357> thanks hwilde
[18:31] <linxeh> they dont keep changing it
[18:31] <ArcInversion> Lusule: Describe what's wrong with your internet then
[18:31] <Marcin26P> ikonia: i did instaled drivers from nvidia site it hmm lets say worked
[18:31] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: i see a scary comment around the kernel code relevant to my burner type: /* Maybe we should just blacklist TSSTcorp... */
[18:31] <yao_ziyuan> ikonia: TSSTcorp is my burner manufacturer...
[18:31] <ikonia> Marcin26P: there is no need to install drivers from nvidia.com
[18:32] <Marcin26P> i restarted and now when it starts it starts with low eficiency
[18:32] <hwilde> Lusule, system, admin, network
[18:32] <Lusule> ArcInversion, my wireless went down and i don't have a clue how to get it up again - i don't know the program that is used to browse nearby networks
[18:32] <hwilde> Lusule, system, admin, network
[18:32] <Lusule> hwilde, ah, slight problem there, i'm in fluxbox and the menu seems to be different
[18:32] <ikonia> yao_ziyuan: probably just a toublesome hardware vendor to get info off
[18:32] <MIKED> hi I am still having a problem getting this to work
[18:32] <Marcin26P> ikonia when i start drivers from system administration i dodnt have 3d acc and could use opengl full scren in mplayer
[18:32] <Lusule> hwilde i need to know how to call the program without using the menus
[18:32] <HardDriveBlues> lusule: netmanager
[18:32] <ikonia> Marcin26P: that was potentially fixable until you installed from nvidia.com
[18:32] <Lusule> HardDriveBlues, thanks :)
[18:33] <hwilde> Lusule, probly somethin like network manager
[18:33] <Marcin26P> and what to do now ?
[18:33] <gnuskool> g'day
[18:33] <ikonia> Marcin26P: remove the drivers from nvidia.com, or ask for support from #nvidia
[18:33] <Lusule> HardDriveBlues, netmanager not found ><
[18:33] <ArcInversion> EW Nvidia
[18:34] <cgibin> ikonia: thank you
[18:34] <MikeSeth> MIKED: please ask a specific question
[18:34] <ikonia> cgibin: no problem
[18:34] <minimec> Lusule: Open a console and do iwspy ethX scanning (ethX may be different for you). Doing that you will see, if your card is working correctly. You should see the wireless networks around.
[18:34] <HardDriveBlues> lusule: nm-applet
[18:34] <jerbear> is there a way to mount a path to some other path using fusermount?
[18:35] <MIKED> I had asked the question previously, I can seem to see my windows drive in "places"
[18:35] <Lusule> HardDriveBlues, aha, thanks!  minimec i get 'wlan0 doesn't support IP addresses'
[18:35] <HardDriveBlues> sorry Lusule, dont have my ubuntu notebook at work today ;)
[18:36] <spartan0> anyone know if I can add raid after I setup an ubuntu server?
[18:36] <yao_ziyuan> how do i install a windows xp besides my current ubuntu installation?
[18:36] <MikeSeth> MIKED: is it mounted?
[18:36] <minimec> Lusule: If you do iwconfig in  a console, what do you see?
[18:36] <yao_ziyuan> 1. prepare a fat32 partition?
[18:36] <MIKED> i think so
[18:36] <Lusule> HardDriveBlues, nm-applet was the program i was thinking of
[18:36] <MIKED> http://paste.ubuntu.com/40458/
[18:36] <MikeSeth> MIKED: type mount in the console and read the output
[18:36] <Lusule> minimec, i see wlan0 as the only one with wireless extensions
[18:37] <MIKED> http://paste.ubuntu.com/40463/
[18:37] <Lusule> HardDriveBlues, running nm-applet seems to have given me my internet back, but it wasn't running before in fluxbox so i'm not sure what happened
[18:38] <sinan> MikeSeth: thanks !
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> hey all
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> quick question for you all
[18:38] <budmang> anyone here us ENVY for dual monitor/
[18:38] <sharperguy> !ask
[18:38] <ActionParsnip> hos can I write a file allocation table to an image of a disk
[18:38] <minimec> Lusule: Is there a ESSID:off/any or some other ESSID:?
[18:39] <cyban> holy hell it worked......
[18:39] <ActionParsnip> budmang: i use it for a single display
[18:39] <Lusule> minimec, ESSID:"<correct ESSID name>"
[18:39] <cyban> or... sort of
[18:39] <budmang> i have 2 nvidia cards.
[18:39] <budmang> just cant get both to show up.
[18:39] <Lusule> minimec, it's fixed now since i ran that applet, i seem to have connection again, but i'd love to know what went wrong and how to fix it without the applet
[18:40] <roger_padactor> how do you map a network drive?
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> budmang: ive never had to set u dual display dude, sorry
[18:40] <MikeSeth> MIKED: I see a couple of non-Linux partitions mounted but I am not sure what they are and why theyre mounted with fuse. You will most likely not see them in Gnome places
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> !smbmount | roger_padactor
[18:40] <minimec> Lusule:OK. Yeah it also looked to me, that the device is working ok.
[18:40] <MIKED> ahaha, well I have no clue?!
[18:40] <Ssdsd> hello
[18:40] <ActionParsnip> roger_padactor: grab smbmount
[18:40] <Lusule> minimec, i think the problem was simply that i don't know how to connect to my chosen network without that applet
[18:40] <Lusule> minimec, and for some reason it wasn't connecting automatically
[18:41] <lirit> i'm trynig to settup evolution to read comp.lang.python. what is the USENET news server?
[18:41] <Lusule> minimec, i'm a bit of a linux newb ><
[18:41] <minimec> Lusule: There are tools like wifi-manager, wicd. you can also configure your device with iwconfig.
[18:41] <roger_padactor> ActionParsnip, am i supposed to get a message?
[18:42] <Lusule> minimec, now i have internet back on the proper computer, i can stop panicking and having withdrawal symptoms, go away and research how to use iwconfig properly :D
[18:42] <MikeSeth> MIKED: read the output of mount, the two last lines are it. Whether they are your disks I dont know, try opening /media in file explorer
[18:42] <cyban> do I need to do something to start the desktop manager?
[18:42] <minimec> Lusule: ;)
[18:42] <MIKED> no I can see and access both fuse mounted drives
[18:42] <MIKED> it is the windows one I cant see or access
[18:43] <ActionParsnip> roger_padactor: no, its a program you need to mount them, you can also use konqueror to mount them
[18:43] <cyban> er rather is there a default desktop enviroment thats loaded?
[18:43] <Lusule> minimec, HardDriveBlues, thanks and goodbye :)
[18:44] <minimec> Lusule: Basiclly in your case the syntax would be something like sudo iwconfig wlan0 <option> setting. Example: sudo iwconfig wlan0 essid off (taht would accept any essid.
[18:44] <doggymenz> if i start xorg without a config file, then compiz dont work
[18:45] <cyban> is the default Ubuntu server install without a desktop enviroment?
[18:45] <cyban> arf
[18:46] <yao_ziyuan> i even found a ubuntuforums.org message thread about my problematic samsung dvd burner: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-625825.html
[18:46] <Debolaz> Ubuntu installer can resize an NTFS partition, so I don't have to worry about that if I want to install a system with dual boot, right?
[18:47] <kavon> How do I uninstall a program (NetBeans) that I installed from their website. I downloaded from their site and installed that file. How can I completely remove it?
[18:48] <jerbear> is virtualbox pretty comparable to vmware?
[18:48] <MikeSeth> MIKED: then its not mounted for whichever reason
[18:48] <nDuff> jerbear, depends on your use cases.
[18:48] <budmang> http://phpfi.com/347151
[18:48] <MikeSeth> MIKED: mount it and put it in fstab if necessary
[18:48] <nDuff> jerbear, I'd call it reasonably close to VMware Server.
[18:49] <Debolaz> jerbear: Vmware has some adventages, but in many cases VirtualBox will be sufficient.
[18:49] <jerbear> nDuff: in what use cases might vmware excel?
[18:49]  * Debolaz needs vmware due to USB.
[18:49] <Kcaj> How can I tell which version of gtk I have?
[18:49] <nDuff> jerbear, not really aimed at VMware Workstation (with its snapshot support) or users of ESX (high-performance server scenarios), but the desktop integration is very good.
[18:49] <jerbear> Debolaz: ahhh... usb is one of my requirements, so vmware then?
[18:49] <negge> Transferring files between two Ubuntu boxes on my LAN is terribly slow (average speed is only a couple hundred kilobytes), I read some on the forums but no one had any good solutions. When I ping one computer from the other one with "ping -s 65507 xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx" I get a 73% package loss, is that normal or are my NICs fscked up?
[18:50] <Debolaz> jerbear: Well, you'd need the proprietary version of VirtualBox if you want USB support there.
[18:50] <nDuff> jerbear, incidentally, the qemu/kvm folks had a rewrite of their USB support recently, to the point that webcams and such work in very new releases now.
[18:50] <Debolaz> jerbear: But even that version has some problems with USB, so your milage may vary. It won't support iPhone for instance.
[18:50] <nDuff> s@releases@git builds@
[18:50] <Slart> negge: it depends on a lot.. switches, nics etc etc
[18:50] <Slart> negge: try iperf.. see what kind of bandwidth you get
[18:51] <MIKED> how do I mount the drive ?
[18:51] <jerbear> i'm thinking vmware might be the most solid in my case
[18:51] <ol_schoola> ikonia: exactly what i was looking for...  that led the 'service' script is in debian-helper-scripts pkg
[18:51] <Slart> negge: what kind of packet loss do you get if you just run normal ping? 0%
[18:51] <negge> Slart: I have some random old NICs I "borrowed" from work, but the switch is a high quality AT 12-port switch which shouldn't be the bottleneck. I have two other switches/routers to test with though if I run out of options
[18:51] <ol_schoola> and sysvconfig which i assume is the runtime level editor for initscripts?
[18:52] <negge> Slart: hold on I'll run some tests
[18:52] <nDuff> jerbear, *shrug*. I use VirtualBox for my desktop (as its integration is great), and KVM+libvirt on my QA servers (where flexibility is key); it depends on your goals. (I'm fighting off the lab manager who's trying to switch us to ESX)
[18:52] <jerbear> what's the best way to install vmware server?
[18:53] <nybbj> hi how to get the rain effects to work? what hot keys?
[18:53] <jerbear> how is vmware 2? it's in beta right?
[18:53] <negge> Slart: ping computer B from computer A results in 0% packet loss (for 54 packets)
[18:53] <Debolaz> jerbear: I'd recommend workstation over server if that's an option.
[18:53] <negge> Slart: computer B to computer A results in 8% packet loss
[18:53] <magc> hey--what email client do you all use to handle pop?
[18:53] <magc> is there something like outlook
[18:54] <Debolaz> jerbear: It has more features and better USB.
[18:54] <Popolon> http://osdir.com/ml/debian.devel.x/2003-06/msg00204.html
[18:54] <[arch3r]> evolution
[18:54] <negge> magc: there's mozilla thunderbird
[18:54] <Slart> negge: 8% for regular ping.. that's kind of bad
[18:54] <jerbear> Debolaz: ok
[18:54] <negge> or evolution
[18:54] <Popolon> this bug is on xubuntu 8.04+ too
[18:54] <ol_schoola> evolution or thunderbird
[18:54] <Popolon> :(
[18:54] <negge> Slart: yeah I guess so, haven't noticed it before
[18:54] <nybbj> hi how to get the rain effects to work? what hot keys?
[18:54] <sorin-mihai> magc, Evolution
[18:54] <negge> Slart: could that be the whole problem?
[18:54] <Debolaz> jerbear: As for installation, it should mostly just work even though it uses a custom installer.
[18:54] <negge> Slart: 'cause I've noticed that sometimes when I transfer files via FTP I get like 6 MB/s or something but NFS transfers are inevitable stuck at below 500 kb/s
[18:55] <sven> damn.. why is my amarok crushing when i try to listen to last.fm ???
[18:55] <jerbear> Debolaz: it doesn't appear to be free :/
[18:55] <Debolaz> jerbear: You'll get services installed, entries on the menu, etcd, installed correctly with the default installer.
[18:55] <Debolaz> jerbear: It's not free as in $0 no.
[18:55] <Popolon> http://gcc.gnu.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=11366
[18:55] <jerbear> wow, that's expensive
[18:55] <Popolon> this bug depend on gcc
[18:56] <Debolaz> jerbear: But it is the best tool. However, there's no reason why you can't try VirtualBox first if price is an issue.
[18:56] <Slart> negge: I would check the cables.. and possible check to see if that nic could be changed
[18:56] <nybbj> hi how to get the rain effects to work? what hot keys? please send message if know
[18:56] <negge> Slart: I tried changing it a couple days ago but Ubuntu wouldn't recognize it automatically so I switched back to the old one
[18:56] <jerbear> Debolaz: i need usb though
[18:56] <cherva> if I have 2 HDDs and one of them is unmounted does it spin ?
[18:56] <Debolaz> jerbear: You have that in the proprietary version, it's no cost for personal use.
[18:57] <negge> Slart: I'll check the cables too. One question, how do I use iperf? I ran iperf --help but don't really get it. Should I start it in server mode on one computer and as client on the other?
[18:57] <jerbear> Debolaz: i think i may already have that version installed. i'll give it a shot.
[18:58] <MIKED> can someone help me I am having some trouble with mounting my windows drive so I can see it
[18:58] <jerbear> anyone had any problems with usb on virtualbox?
[18:58] <Slart> negge: yes
[18:58] <LinuxGhost> HELP me , theres a file SPSS.exe that cannot be deleted, please help me!
[18:58] <Slart> negge: iperf -s on one server, iperf -c XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX on the other
[18:59] <negge> Slart: okay
[18:59] <jerbear> Debolaz: you mentioned that virtualbox does not support the iphone over usb. does vmware?
[18:59] <sven> damn.. why is my amarok crushing when i try to listen to last.fm ???
[18:59] <freakazoid> jerbear, vmware doesnt
[18:59] <freakazoid> ive tried
[19:00] <Debolaz> freakazoid: It does.
[19:00] <jerbear> Debolaz: i'm guess workstation, though?
[19:00] <cherva> if I have 2 HDDs and one of them is unmounted does the unmounted one it spin ?
[19:00] <Debolaz> freakazoid: Vmware server doesn't, but vmware workstation and player does.
[19:00] <Cuog422> does anyone know how to make f-spot stop trying to unload pictures off an SD card whenever it mounts?
[19:00] <negge> Slart: I got 2.81 Mbit/s
[19:00] <freakazoid> ive tried both Debolaz
[19:00] <freakazoid> didnt work
[19:00] <negge> Slart: it's better than the NFS speeds but it still sucks considering it should be close to 100 Mbit/s
[19:01] <LinuxGhost> HELP me , theres a file SPSS.exe that cannot be deleted, please help me
[19:01] <Debolaz> freakazoid: I just synced five minutes ago so I'm kind of having a hard time believing it's vmware that's the problem. :)
[19:01] <LinuxGhost> i want to uninstall spss application with wine but wine cant deleted it only copies another files like a virus eating more space on my harddisc
[19:01] <Slart> negge: 2.81 Mbit is pretty bad if it's ethernet
[19:01] <Debolaz> jerbear: Or player.
[19:01] <MIKED> can someone help me I am having some trouble with mounting my windows drive so I can see it\
[19:01] <negge> Slart: yes it's ethernet, sudo ethtool eth0 says the link is 100 Mbit on both computers
[19:01] <sdfsdfsd> j
[19:02] <Slart> negge: you don't have a laptop you can connect to that switch just to see if the speeds are the same to that one
[19:02] <jerbear> Debolaz: is player pretty easy to setup a virtual machine on? last time i tried it, it wasn't
[19:02] <RequinB4> on mozilla firefox, about:plugin gives two entries for mplayerplug-in.so, but i can only find one.  However, there is only one copy of subsidiary plugins like mplayerplug-in-wmp.so; etc
[19:02] <negge> Slart: I have my friends Windows Vista computer here at home, any speed tests like iperf that I can run between those two?
[19:02] <jerbear> Debolaz: all i really want to do is run itunes so i can sync my iphone
[19:02] <negge> I do have an Eee with Ubuntu aswell, I'll hook it up right away
[19:03] <Debolaz> jerbear: You can't set up virtual machines with player, you need something else to do that. That being said, once you've set the machine up you only need player.
[19:03] <keco> hi!
[19:03] <Slart> negge: anything should be able to cope with 2.81 Mbit/s.. even the eee =)
[19:03] <RequinB4> !hi
[19:03] <Debolaz> jerbear: So you could just use workstation to set up the virtual machine, then use player.
[19:03] <keco> can somebody help me with my television card, model: flyvideo 2000 ?
[19:04] <keco> my machine run ubuntu 8.04
[19:04] <jerbear> Debolaz: but that does work with vmware? do you use an iphone with it?
[19:04] <negge> Slart: I'll get back to you in a couple of minutes when I've run iperf between the Eee and the two other computers
[19:04] <Slart> negge: sure
[19:04] <P3X-018> Do KDE applications run without problems in Ubuntu, even though I haven't installed some KDE?
[19:04] <MIKED> can someone help me I am having some trouble with mounting my windows drive so I can see it\
[19:05] <Debolaz> jerbear: Yes. iPhone was the reason I chose vmware over virtualbox.
[19:05] <TiredWolf> P3X-018: yes. the needed KDE libraries will be installed automatically by APT
[19:05] <sorin-mihai> Cuog422, gnome-volume-properties, and/or Nautilus and do Edit > Preferences > Media (not sure)
[19:05] <RequinB4> on mozilla firefox, about: plugin gives two entries for mplayerplug-in.so, but i can only find one.  However, there is only one copy of subsidiary plugins like mplayerplug-in-wmp.so; etc
[19:06] <Supavisah> anyone seen this - http://lh4.ggpht.com/alphinux/SLLxiSRMkkI/AAAAAAAAAi8/J0VnC5wnnoo/Ubuntubbie.jpg quite funny :P
[19:07] <LinuxGhost> i want to uninstall spss application with wine but wine cant deleted it only copies another files like a virus eating more space on my harddisc
[19:07] <jerbear> Debolaz: any setup issues i should be aware of?
[19:07] <Pici> !ot
[19:07] <yao_ziyuan> a non-technical question: if in the US i bought a DVD burner only to find it not-yet compliant with my ubuntu, can i get a full refund, or do i have to accept the product and wait until linux kernel supports it?
[19:07] <sudobash> To Change the World... Start with one step, and how ever small, first step is hardest of all, but once you get to your gate, you'll be walking tall... You say you never did, cause you might die trying....
[19:07] <yao_ziyuan> i strongly suggest that ubuntu.com provides a list of recommended compatible hardware
[19:07] <Debolaz> jerbear: All defaults worked for me. You get both workstation and player in the workstation package so you don't need to download both.
[19:07] <adakos> hey if im running a core2 duo form intel (E3600 if i recall correctly)  -- which version of 8.04 should i install? the 64 bit one, or the i386 ?
[19:07] <RequinB4> on mozilla firefox, about: plugin gives two entries for mplayerplug-in.so, but i can only find one.  However, there is only one copy of subsidiary plugins like mplayerplug-in-wmp.so; etc
[19:08] <Pici> sudobash: And that is related to Ubuntu support how?
[19:08] <quanticle> yao_ziuan: It doesn't?  I thought there was a hardware compatibility list somewhere on the wiki.
[19:08] <jerbear> Debolaz: cool, thanks for your help
[19:08] <adakos> :-||
[19:08] <sudobash> Ubuntu has changed the world :)
[19:08] <jerbear> i don't suppose running itunes in wine works with the iphone?
[19:08] <adakos> woah wrong button sorry
[19:08] <genius> hello, how to add custom applet to start in(after) gnome by root user?
[19:08] <negge> Slart: iperf -s on computer A and iperf -c on the EEE returned 7.11 Mbit/s, iperf -s on computer B and iperf -c on the Eee returned 27.1 Mbit/s
[19:08] <olskolirc> hi hi.  Does anyone know a good wireless keyboard and mouse that I can use with my Gutsy please?
[19:08] <yao_ziyuan> quanticle: ok
[19:08] <negge> Slart: it's better but it still sucks
[19:08] <balle_> how do i make the terminal do the base line again after i have done something with it? like making it open pidgin by gksudo?
[19:09] <adakos> negge: im getting 77 Mbits/sec on my gigabit router =/ dont feel to bad
[19:09] <Slart> negge: I get 802 Mbit/s between my laptop and desktop
[19:09] <negge> adakos: :D gigabit is for spoiled kids;)
[19:09] <quanticle> balle_: put & after the command.  Example - firefox &
[19:09] <negge> Slart: damn.
[19:09] <newuuser> ne1 using pytivo
[19:09] <Slart> negge: but yes.. 27 is better than 2.. but still pretty poor
[19:09] <davidmit_> hi
[19:09] <balle_> quanticle: thx man, just what i was looking for ;)
[19:10] <adakos> negge: heh, i thought it would speed up my transfers. nope, not happening =( that's the reaoson im switching to ubuntu, i hear speeds are better for one
[19:10] <davidmit_> anyone know how to convert a 3d array into a data frame?
[19:10] <Slart> negge: it's weird that both computers were faster when talking to the eee..
[19:10] <negge> Slart: yeah
[19:10] <g0r8y> Hi I belive i have some kind of routeing problem, everytime i get dhcp'ed an address im unable to reach anything on that network. Other clients on the network do not have the same problem after getting an address. After getting the address the command route hangs, any ideas for me? =)
[19:10] <olskolirc> welcome to ubuntu adakos !!!
[19:10] <newuuser> too fast
[19:10] <newuuser> wow
[19:10] <newuuser> laters
[19:10] <adakos> olskolirc: im not a complete newb, i've been using it as a server since 6.0x
[19:11] <andrew314> alright, I have an issue: I just upgraded my laptop harddrive and I want to increase the size of each partition.  Currently it's: Windows-30gb,Ubuntu 20gb, Extended ~2gbs, in that order on the disk. The problem is when I boot form a LiveCD and run gparted, it refuses to let me move the Extended partition and consequently makes it unable for me to resize the windows/ubuntu partitions.  Any ideas as to why?
[19:11] <quanticle> g0r8y: Hmmm...  Can you ping other machines on your network?
[19:11] <adakos> olskolirc: just finally getting rid of the last reminants of my old life and starting fresh with ubuntu
[19:11] <negge> Slart: could it be a router issue? The AT switch is hooked up to a Zyxel one-port rotuer (my modem), does that mean all traffic goes through the router or does it go straight through the switch from computer A to B?
[19:11] <g0r8y> quanticle: no nothing at all
[19:11] <Alphinux> olskolirc, You mean Ubuntubbie Channel?
[19:11] <quanticle> andrew314: Are your partitions mounted?
[19:11] <v0lksman> any idea where Network Manager stores it's profiles (and wireless settings?) I need to backup my machine but don't want to loose all the keys for various networks I use...
[19:11] <olskolirc> adakos, I'm on ubunto now and forever coming from RedHat 6 years ago to mandrake, mandriva, debian and now ubuntu
[19:11] <Slart> negge: it should go directly to the other computer
[19:11] <negge> Slart: do you know if there's anything like iperf for Windows so I can test between my friends computer and the Eee to see if it's a router issue
[19:11] <negge> Slart: okay
[19:11] <yao_ziyuan> quanticle: the hardware list should be made an obvious menu on the front page
[19:11] <g0r8y> quanticle: ping doesnt even list no route to host or anything, just hangs like route
[19:12] <andrew314> quanticle:  not when I boot from the livecd, I don't believe so
[19:12] <olskolirc> what Alphinux ?
[19:12] <Alphinux> nvm olskolirc
[19:12] <adakos> using a Core2Duo -- should I install the desktop AMD&INTEL64 ISO or the i386 sempron,celeron, etc
[19:12] <Slart> negge: I'm not sure if there is anything that works for both windows and linux.. but you could always use a live cd for your unfortunate friend
[19:12] <quanticle> olskolirc: Alphinux means this: http://picasaweb.google.com/alphinux/Linux/photo#5238514887907119682
[19:12] <Slart> adakos: if you have to ask.. go with generic 32bit
[19:12] <olskolirc> its time for my relaxing bubble.  I guess no one has the answer to my wireless keyboard and mouse.
[19:12] <Slart> adakos: =)
[19:12] <sudobash> adakos how much ram?
[19:12] <Alphinux> damn my name is in the link
[19:12] <yao_ziyuan> there's quite a lot people frustrated by my type of dvd burner with ubuntu: http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=767190
[19:12] <adakos> sudobash: 3 gigs
[19:13] <andrew314> quanticle: I'm trying to use the gparted LiveCD to do the resize
[19:13] <sudobash> yeah go with 32bit
[19:13] <g0r8y> its as if it cant reach the default gateway addy thats dhcp'ed but its fine on all my other machibn
[19:13] <sudobash> i386
[19:13] <g0r8y> machines
[19:13] <adakos> Slart & sudobash: fair enough, thankyoumuch
[19:13] <negge> Slart: hehe. He has Ubuntu installed but GRUB has disappeared since he reinstalled Vista and I haven't gotten around to fixing it for him yet. I'll try with a live CD on his computer now...
[19:13] <Slart> adakos: 64 bit isn't very special.. but i386 seems a bit overkill.. there is a generic kernel
[19:13] <sudobash> yeah generic works well
[19:13] <quanticle> g0r8y: You can't even ping the default gateway?
[19:13] <g0r8y> nope
[19:13] <olskolirc> oh wow we have a new upgrade for Opera Browser http://www.opera.com/download/
[19:14] <quanticle> g0r8y: Can you ping the DHCP server?
[19:14] <g0r8y> quanticle: same behaviour on wired and wireless interfaces, dhcp server is default gateway; its just a netgear router#
[19:14] <jerbear> Debolaz:  how do i uninstall it, if i end up not wanting it?
[19:14] <quanticle> andrew314: Hmmm... I'm not all that familiar with resizing partitions.  I'm not all that sure what the issue is...
[19:14] <Debolaz> jerbear: I'm not sure. :-)
[19:15] <MIKED> hey guys, I was hoping someone could help me, for some reason I am not able to mount my windows drive for me to see in ubuntu
[19:15] <g0r8y> quanticle: i thought mabe id screwed something fundemental but dhcp does work...
[19:15] <_empa__> is there a suspend to ram for ubuntu that works?
[19:15] <andrew314> MIKED: what are you doing?
[19:15] <quanticle> gor8y: Oh.  Okay.  What is the IP address that the machine is getting?
[19:15] <andrew314> MIKED: rather, how are you going about it?
[19:15] <MIKED> well Ive tried following a few tutorials but with no results
[19:16] <MIKED> http://technical-itch.co.uk/2006/11/06/how-to-access-your-windows-hard-drive-from-ubuntu/
[19:16] <ompaul> !ntfs | MIKED have a look here did you try these?
[19:16] <andrew314> MIKED: did you hibernate windows?
[19:16] <MIKED> i dont know what that means
[19:16] <sudobash> Miked: sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/windowsdrive /media/disk -o force
[19:16] <sudobash> you might also want to do sudo mkdir /media/disk before that
[19:16] <g0r8y> quanticle: i had a rule on the router to provide a static address on its mac, i changed that for a sanity check and it gave me the new address fine (10.0.0.20)
[19:16] <andrew314> MIKED: what sudobash said
[19:16] <Slart> sudobash: I think -force can do bad things to your drive if it isn't healthy
[19:17] <sudobash> yeah maybe to the windows partition
[19:17] <Slart> yes, of course.. bad things to the windows drive
[19:17] <sudobash> but I could care less about my window partition maybe others may care about it.....
[19:17] <MIKED> ok how do I make the directory ?
[19:17] <Slart> hehe
[19:17] <sudobash> i have never seen it harm the windows partition
[19:17] <sudobash> but it is very possible
[19:17] <olskolirc> how do I upgrade my Opera.deb file with dpkg instead of installing the new version or having two copies please?
[19:18] <sudobash> its like pulling the cable out of the machine when you are in Windows
[19:18] <quanticle> g0r8y: Can any of the other machines on the network ping the Ubuntu box?
[19:18] <g0r8y> quanticle: good point let me try
[19:19] <g0r8y> quanticle: no joy, time outs
[19:20] <quanticle> g0r8y: Yeah.  Somehow I'm not suprised.  Hmmm...  What about the subnet mask on the Ubuntu box.  Is it the same as everything else?
[19:20] <sudobash> thats what i was about to ask...
[19:21] <MIKED> ok how do I make the directory ?
[19:21] <sudobash> if route hangs it should be subnet is off
[19:22] <g0r8y> quanticle: yeah all the same
[19:22] <MIKED> hey guys, I was hoping someone could help me, for some reason I am not able to mount my windows drive for me to see in ubuntu
[19:22] <quanticle> sudobash: Perhaps.  But, if the subnet mask was off, then ping would complain about having no route to host.
[19:22] <sudobash> MIKED I already told you a remedy
[19:22] <MIKED> yea
[19:22] <sudobash> right
[19:22] <MIKED> but how do i make the directory
[19:22] <balle_> how do i download the mlton compiler for SML? i can't really get it thorugh apt-get install...
[19:22] <MIKED> first
[19:22] <quanticle> MIKED: mkdir
[19:22] <sudobash> sudo mkdir /media/disk
[19:22] <sudobash> sudo mkdir /media/LameWindows
[19:23] <sudobash> yeah it would say no route to host your right...
[19:23] <quanticle> sudobash: Meh.  I rather like Windows XP.  It allows me to play games :P
[19:23] <MIKED> sudo mkdiruh that didnt work
[19:23] <sudobash> yeah but all i play is AA 2.5 which is native to Linux so Im good
[19:23] <g0r8y> quanticle: win2k ftw ;)
[19:23] <quanticle> MIKED: Type, "sudo mkdir /media/disk"
[19:23] <MIKED> http://paste.ubuntu.com/40475/
[19:24] <Debolaz> quanticle: And get infected with spyware. :)
[19:24] <clee> Where can I find the file where I can change users names?
[19:24] <quanticle> Debolaz: The Windows box doesn't get connected to the Internet for a reason.
[19:24] <sudobash> check that again MIKED
[19:24] <g0r8y> Think its worth changeing my address scheme to something more normal on the router? its one i nicked from work
[19:24] <sudobash> your dirs are wrong
[19:24] <MIKED> check what again ?
[19:24] <MIKED> ok
[19:25] <sudobash> either it has to be /media/disk or /media/windowsdrive
[19:25] <quanticle> g0r8y: Yeah.  What are the other IPs on the network.  I was going to ask about that, but I figured you had a custom addressing scheme.
[19:25] <sudobash> sudo mkdir /media/windowsdrive will fix that little error
[19:25] <aket> hi, what is a command to get the last modified time of a file. I want to do something like     find . -name "alive" -exec getmodtime {} \;
[19:25] <Popolon> ++
[19:25] <g0r8y> quanticle: just a dhcp range from 10.0.0.10-20 all the win clients (3 of em) in the house pick up address's fine tho
[19:26] <g0r8y> quanticle: i dont have ip rules for the other machine macs
[19:26] <negge> Slart: got 84 Mbit/s when running iperf -s on the Eee and 96 Mbit/s vice versa (testing between my Eee and my friends computer running on a Live CD)
[19:26] <MIKED> this is what Im getting now
[19:26] <MIKED> http://paste.ubuntu.com/40477/
[19:26] <Prikolchik> does anyboy here have Aspire One laptop?
[19:26] <negge> Slart: guess it's either REALLY bad cables or crappy old NICs then
[19:26] <quanticle> gor8y: Oh.  Okay.  Does the Ubuntu box pick up an IP even without the IP rule?
[19:26] <sudobash> make sure there isn't a static IP set for the same IP... if you have 2 of the same IP's on a network you will get problems like your having
[19:26] <oklinux> any one here use earos ?
[19:26] <Skaag> how do I remove the limit on tmpfs maximum size?
[19:27] <g0r8y> quanticle: let me test that
[19:27] <sudobash> but then the dhcp should not lease it if it is taken
[19:27] <Skaag> I noticed there's a file called /etc/default/tmpfs
[19:27] <Skaag> but I suspect this only affects /dev/shm and not all other mounts on tmpfs
[19:27] <Prikolchik> does anyone here have Aspire One laptop?
[19:27] <quanticle> sudobash: Yeah.  That's why I suggested that he take out the static rule.
[19:27] <jerbear> anyone tried running itunes in wine with the iphone?
[19:27] <negge> sudobash: where you talking to me or some other guy?
[19:28] <MIKED> this is what Im getting now
[19:28] <legend2440> MIKED: you have to substitute   /dev/windowsdrive for the partition you want to mount  ie /dev/sdb1
[19:28] <MIKED> http://paste.ubuntu.com/40477/
[19:28] <ArcInversion> jerbear, just use rhythmbox
[19:28] <MIKED> ah
[19:28] <MIKED> ok
[19:28] <Prikolchik> does anyboy here have Aspire One laptop? I might have found a few driver fixes... Need some testing
[19:28] <sudobash> someone else sorry...
[19:28] <negge> alright:)
[19:28] <jerbear> ArcInversion: dude... iphone
[19:28] <g0r8y> quanticle: ah forgot to say, there is another ubuntu box in the house cant rember distro name 6.10 - affected machine is 8.10 tho
[19:28] <sudobash> i have installed ubuntu on an Aspire Laptop before
[19:28] <ArcInversion> jerbear, i have my ipod touch hooked up to rhythmbox perfectly.  iphone is the same thing
[19:29] <Prikolchik> sudobash, do u still have Aspire one?
[19:29] <_Zeus_> hi
[19:29] <sudobash> no i dont have it.. it was for someone else
[19:29] <quanticle> g0r8y: And the other Ubuntu machine doesn't have any issues?
[19:29] <LinuxUsr> How much space should I give to / and /home? I gave / 15 gigabytes and home the rest, over 100 gigabytes. Is that right?
[19:29] <MIKED> ok im getting this now http://paste.ubuntu.com/40478/
[19:29] <negge> ArcInversion: can you sync your iphone with rhytmbox?
[19:29] <jerbear> ArcInversion: i don't think anything works with the firmware 2.x
[19:29] <RequinB4> does http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/40474/ mean I can remove the curses linux restricted modules?
[19:29] <_Zeus_> LinuxUsr: that is tons
[19:29] <skd5aner> Hello, I'm having a huge problem upgrading from 7.10 to 8.04, can someone help?
[19:29] <_Zeus_> LinuxUsr: 15GB / is plenty
[19:29] <sudobash> LinuxUsr yeah too much but it would work
[19:29] <LinuxUsr> Okay, thanks.
[19:29] <Prikolchik> sudobash, oh ic... i think i've figured a fix for card reader and sound (nic + sound on syspend/hibernate)
[19:29] <_Zeus_> you have enough
[19:30] <sudobash> cool
[19:30] <g0r8y> quanticle: nah its fine ; my granny uses it :)
[19:30] <legend2440> MIKED: stda1 is not a partition   is it sda1?
[19:30] <Debolaz> jerbear: Correct, the 2.x firmware uses a new hash function that has yet to be broken, making it impossible to synchronize songs with anything but iTunes.
[19:30] <ArcInversion> negge;jerbear; pretty sure it works with iphone too.  You just need to jailbreak it first.  then you can wirelessly transfer music to it,
[19:30] <_Zeus_> legend2440: sda1 would probably be it
[19:30] <skd5aner> I tried to upgrade my server from 7.10 - 8.04, and it bombed out with the locals
[19:30] <_Zeus_> skd5aner: you mean locales?
[19:30] <Debolaz> ArcInversion: See response to jerbear. :)
[19:30] <Ximal> is there a way to clone a hard drive from 1 disk to another ? I would like to take my 150 gigabyte hd and post it onto my new 1terabyte drive so that I can rid myself of my old disk drive ?
[19:30] <_Zeus_> Ximal: use dd
[19:30] <MIKED> it is telling me it doesnt have a valid ntfs
[19:30] <Slart> negge: ah.. yes.. perhaps buy one extra nic and start switching them around..
[19:30] <skd5aner> I tried to follow some of the advice here - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=865679
[19:30] <negge> ArcInversion: ah I forgot about that option. I have an iPod Touch and it sucks really hard to have to use iTunes all the time
[19:30] <skd5aner> Zeus - yes
[19:31] <Ximal> I need to find a front in _Zeus_ for dd
[19:31] <sorin-mihai> MIKED, sudo fdisk -l will show you what partitions are on your computer
[19:31] <negge> Slart: yeah
[19:31] <skd5aner> Now, I think my system is totally hosed
[19:31] <Aji-Dahaka> Howdy.  I have a Xen server set up and want to install an ubuntu Dom0 (guest) using para-virtualization.  Is it possible to use the install media to do this?
[19:31] <ArcInversion> Debolaz: Lemme alone, I wasnt reading :P
[19:31] <sudobash> MIKED make sure you are mounting the correct partition
[19:31] <Debolaz> :)
[19:31] <RequinB4> does http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/40474/ mean I can remove the curses linux restricted modules?
[19:31] <_Zeus_> Ximal: you want a frontend for dd?
[19:31] <negge> Slart: but how can I get 20 Mbit/s difference in speed depending on which computer acts as server?
[19:31] <Ximal> is there one sir ?
[19:31] <_Zeus_> Ximal: it's not that hard
[19:31] <_Zeus_> type man dd
[19:31] <legend2440> MIKED: if your not sure type   sudo fdisk -l in terminal and find out name of partition you want to mount
[19:31] <negge> Slart: shouldn't it be quite the same?
[19:31] <quanticle> g0r8y: And what's the address of the other Ubuntu box?
[19:31] <chazco> Hii... anyone know how I can run applications that need 1024x768 on a 1024x600 screen?
[19:31] <MIKED> yea i did, check this out http://paste.ubuntu.com/40480/
[19:31] <_Zeus_> like, dd if=old_drive if=new_drive
[19:31] <Aji-Dahaka> chazco: virtual desktop size in your X config?
[19:32] <negge> chazco: you can move the window to access the bottom of the window by pressing Alt and dragging the window with the mouse
[19:32] <chazco> Aji-Dahaka - I tried setting that but it seems like it doesnt work with the intel modesetting driver
[19:32] <chazco> negge - Some applications refuse to start on 1024x600
[19:32] <g0r8y> quanticle: how can i make dhcp forget the recorded lease? i deleted the rule on the router but its still takeing the old address
[19:32] <negge> really
[19:32] <quanticle> _Zeus_: You mean, "dd if=old_drive of=new_drive".  I'm pretty sure you don't want to overwrite the old drive with itself.
[19:32] <themoleste> i'm not sure if i should ask here, or server chan... but anyone have experience with making a minimalist desktop (no wm) for a mpc
[19:32] <themoleste> err... htpc
[19:32] <sorin-mihai> MIKED, /dev/sda1 it may be the windows partition
[19:33] <skd5aner> I really don't want to start over from scratch, I'll lose way too much if I do that
[19:33] <Prikolchik> MIKED, are u trying to mount an external HDD? or mount internal HDD patition?
[19:33] <audifahrer> Hello
[19:33] <MIKED> yes sda1 is my windows partition
[19:33] <kenny> hi
[19:33] <MIKED> it is an internal hdd
[19:33] <orkun> hello
[19:33] <RequinB4> does http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/40474/ mean I can remove the curses linux restricted modules?
[19:33] <orkun> hi
[19:33] <sorin-mihai> then try sudo mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sda1 /media/disk -o force
[19:33] <themoleste> i'm trying to use xbmc as the media software... on hardy desktop it runs smooth, on server it runs very slow and xorg uses 100% cpu
[19:33] <skd5aner> probably way too much traffic in this channel to get help
[19:34] <g0r8y> quanticle: other ubuntu box is 10.0.0.10
[19:34] <g0r8y> but i cant get affected box to take anything other than .20 now
[19:34] <audifahrer> I use Nautilus in E17 as file manager. But since some time the computer:// location isn't longer working.If I start a full Gnome session it works without problems. So any ideas what else I need to start for that location?
[19:34] <Prikolchik> MIKED, see private message
[19:34] <quanticle> g0r8y: Bringing down the connection and bringing it back up should work fine - "sudo ifdown <network card>; sudo ifup <network card>" should renew the lease.
[19:34] <toresbe> Hello!
[19:35] <kenny> can somebody here help me get USB working in virtualbox in ubuntu ?
[19:35] <toresbe> I'm just wondering, what does Ubuntu call its SMP-enabled kernel?
[19:35] <g0r8y> quanticle: also worth noteing - if i do ./etc/init.d/networking restart  whatever happens after dhcp hangs the script
[19:35] <toresbe> Is linux-image-server just a standard kernel except with SMP?
[19:35] <Debolaz> kenny: What version of virtualbox have you installed?
[19:35] <MIKED> any ideas ??
[19:35] <kenny> just a sec
[19:35] <g0r8y> it gets the address but then just sits there not completeing, feels like the route problem at that point
[19:35] <Prikolchik> MIKED, seeprivate chat
[19:36] <KaMaMi> hey all
[19:36] <quanticle> toresbe: Well, I just did uname on my box, and I got this: 2.6.24-19-generic #1 SMP
[19:36] <Debolaz> kenny: The OSE or the proprietary one? (If you installed from Add/Remove programs, you installed OSE)
[19:36] <toresbe> Linux fortran 2.6.24-16-386 #1 Thu Apr 10 12:50:06 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[19:36] <kenny> Debloaz 1.6.4  the one from the innotek site
[19:36] <toresbe> Hrm
[19:36] <toresbe> I'll try something then, bbl
[19:36] <quanticle> toresbe: Did you do uname -a
[19:36] <chazco> Some applications refuse to start on 1024x600... any ideas?
[19:36] <g0r8y> quanticle: when i do sudo ifdown ath0 it hangs on dhcprelease on ath0 to 10.0.0.1 port  67
[19:36] <kenny> it shows that the HP printer is working
[19:37] <kenny> but the PSP is grayed out unusable :(
[19:37] <quanticle> g0r8y: Try rebooting, and see what happens.
[19:37] <clayton> do some italian channels exist????
[19:37] <toresbe> quanticle: yes, it is not an SMP kernel.
[19:37] <troxor>  ls
[19:37] <themoleste> oooh, looks like i found the problem/difference
[19:37] <regeya> !it
[19:37] <Debolaz> kenny: Ie, it's impossible to add it to the filter list?
[19:37] <TiredWolf> !it | clayton
[19:37] <sorin-mihai> toresbe, linux-image-server it is build with server in mind, but the desktop kernel is using SMP too.
[19:38] <toresbe> sorin-mihai: thanks... odd
[19:38] <themoleste> when comparing glxinfo |grep direct i see that the server is running indirect, and desktop is running direct
[19:38] <kenny> i added it to the filter list
[19:38] <themoleste> what does that mean, and how can i fix it
[19:38] <kenny> but when i run the machine
[19:38] <kenny> and goto devices the psp is grayed out
[19:38] <g0r8y> quanticle: will do - I ctrl-c'ed ifdown ath0 then ran sudo ifup ath0 - it got the same address (.20) then hangs after the "bound to 10.0.0.20" line
[19:38] <kenny> and not showing on the machine
[19:38] <toresbe> sorin-mihai: I may have been mixing kernels :)
[19:39] <KaMaMi> can someone tell me where clamd hides after the installation of the package clamav? i have a freshclam, but under /etc/init.d/ i was exspecting a start script... freshclam is there, but no clamd :-/
[19:40] <quanticle> g0r8y: Yeah.  I think you're getting that because its not able to contact the DHCP server.  Obligatory: did you check your physical media (cables, etc.)?
[19:40] <sorin-mihai> KaMaMi, you have to install clamd too. is not installed yet.
[19:40] <Debolaz> kenny: Difficult to say what the problem is, especially since I can't bring up VirtualBox atm. :/
[19:40] <g0r8y> #quanticle: yeah but then why did my address change when i changed the static rule on router
[19:41] <RequinB4> does http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/40474/ mean i don't need linux-restriced-modules
[19:41] <Totakeke> Alright, I can't access an older IDE drive on an old computer (probably my fault, but I got all of my important files and it was too slow to do anything) and the CD drive doesn't work. I can't boot from a USB device, either. Is there a way to get Linux onto that computer without putting the old HDD into this (my new) computer?
[19:41] <kenny> darn, it's the last thing i gotta get working to be able to run linux all the time
[19:41] <quanticle> g0r8y: Good point.  Yeah.  I have no idea why that happened.
[19:41] <RandyboY> Is there a new update which gives problems with windows shares? Ive had shares in fstab for a while now and suddenly they wount mount anymore...
[19:41] <kenny> just so i can make my youtube videos PSP compatible
[19:42]  * quanticle brb
[19:42] <KaMaMi> -sorin-mihai- hmm wrong repository?
[19:42] <kenny> debolaz:  I'll keep at it, hopefully get it working soon :)
[19:42] <kenny> thanks for trying
[19:42] <KaMaMi> -sorin-mihai- let me check, ill think i got it already
[19:43] <Lollipopz> how to install with dpkg
[19:43] <Lollipopz> with all the dependencies?
[19:43] <budmang> I finally have dual monitors working, but I cant drag a window across them(but my mouse can).
[19:43] <Alan_M> !dpkg | Lollipopz
[19:43] <Totakeke> So how do I install Linux on an old PC where I can't use the Live CD, Live USB, or even the hard drive?
[19:43] <eitreach> Totakeke: you can use the alternate install cd.
[19:43] <Alan_M> whoops, thought it had a little bit more than that :/
[19:43] <Debolaz> budmang: That's because they are two separate X screens.
[19:44] <Aji-Dahaka> how do I install ubuntu as a pv dom0 without an intermediate hvm step?
[19:44] <Marcin26P> can samone help me woth nvidia ??
[19:44] <Debolaz> budmang: Do you use nvidia?
[19:44] <eitreach> Totakeke: that requires much less ram to run.
[19:44] <Totakeke> eitreach: But the DVD drive doesn't work, it spins up a little and then slows back down.
[19:44] <Alan_M> !ask | Marcin26P
[19:44] <Prikolchik> RandyboY, u do know that if ur windows in hidernate the drive C doesnt mount?
[19:44] <isleshocky77> ﻿Anyone know how to solve the segfault I get due to an attribute error in synce-opensync-plugin on kubuntu 8.04?
[19:44] <g0r8y> quanticle: rebooted still getting the .20 address (the first thing it tryss rather than a blank request is a "dhcp request of 10.0.0.20")
[19:44] <Marcin26P> i have drivers from ubuntu system/administration/drivers its active
[19:44] <RandyboY> Prikolchik, its always on. No hibernation
[19:44] <Lollipopz> Alan_M so I need to solve dependencies with apt instead of dpkg?
[19:45] <budmang> Debolaz: Yes 2 nvidia cards?
[19:45] <Marcin26P> andwhen i start its lower performance
[19:45] <Marcin26P> :/
[19:45] <g0r8y> quanticle: will change to a different one on router fo sanity
[19:45] <MIKED> hello hello
[19:45] <Prikolchik> MIKED, did it work?
[19:45] <MIKED> nope
[19:45] <sorin-mihai> Totakeke, try a distro that has a floppy as a boot media with some internet stuf on it, and then try to install from the internet. i would buy a new pc :))
[19:45] <MIKED> still cant see it in Places
[19:45] <Marcin26P> and it runs in 800x600 :/
[19:45] <Debolaz> budmang: You need to enable twinview then, the apt-get installable program nvidia-settings will do that for you.
[19:45] <Prikolchik> MIKED, can u see in /media/disk
[19:45] <m0u5e> hmmm weird, firefox crashed
[19:45] <m0u5e> and now it wont start
[19:46] <Totakeke> sorin-mihai: Way ahead of you, built this one about a month ago. :P I was trying to install it on the old one for a friend because it was just soooo slow with Windows and other crap on it
[19:46] <budmang> i have nvidia-settings installed but twinview isnt an option.
[19:46] <m0u5e> actually none of my browers will start... (epiph & fox)
[19:46] <MIKED> no
[19:46] <MIKED> that folder is empty
[19:46] <Alan_M> m0u5e, tried running it through terminal?
[19:46] <Debolaz> budmang: Then I'm all out of ideas. :-)
[19:46] <Alan_M> m0u5e, you can run firefox through terminal to see if it throws any kind of error message, if it gives you one, throw it to us here ;)
[19:47] <_Zeus_> Alan_M: it's impossible to run FF thorough terminal
[19:47] <KaMaMi> -sorin-mihai- grmbl i cant find clamd, where should it supposed to be? i got universe, main, restricet, multiverse - its hardy btw
[19:47] <g0r8y> quanticle: picked up the new address first go (.19)
[19:47] <_Zeus_> it starts some child process then quits and you get no output
[19:47] <Alan_M> _Zeus_, not so....
[19:47] <Marcin26P> can samone help  me with nvidia fx go 5200 i have just 800x600:/
[19:47] <Alan_M> _Zeus_, ive had no issues as of yet with doing such stuff....
[19:47] <sorin-mihai> KaMaMi, just a second.
[19:48] <m0u5e> Alan_M: nothing happens
[19:48] <KaMaMi> sure, thank you for trying to help
[19:48] <KaMaMi> pm maybe?
[19:48] <MatBoy> does someone know a good tool to use under linux to make an image from an external HD ?
[19:48]  * Alan_M just tried it on mine _Zeus_, it worked fine...no errors...
[19:48] <m0u5e> its really weird
[19:48] <_Zeus_> hmmmm,,,,,,, maybe then changed it
[19:48] <quanticle> g0r8y: It picked up a new address after rebooting?
[19:48] <_Zeus_> MatBoy: ues dd
[19:48] <sorin-mihai> KaMaMi, it is clamav-daemon
[19:49] <g0r8y> quanticle: this is so wierd =s i rly cba to rebuild for this tho its so strange it affects both the wired card and the wireless
[19:49] <_Zeus_> or maybe i'm wrong :-P
[19:49] <Marcin26P> ikonia: can you help me ;)
[19:49] <fsufitch> m0u5e: i had a similar problem about a week ago, and i never figuted out hot wo recover my firefox
[19:49] <fsufitch> or epiphany, or anything
[19:49] <Alan_M> m0u5e, yeah...no errors but it doesnt start...that does sound weird......maybe a gnome issue?
[19:49] <m0u5e> fsufitch: well, restarting always works... but there should be a better solution :/
[19:49] <MatBoy> _Zeus_: but I need to image a disk of a SBS2003 machine... so dd is not OK :)
[19:49] <m0u5e> Alan_M: dunno
[19:49] <fsufitch> but then i made a new account and it worked there
[19:49] <fsufitch> no, restarting did nothing for me
[19:49] <_Zeus_> MatBoy: ?
[19:49] <g0r8y> quanticle: no, reboot didnt make it 'forget' the old address - i re entered the new static rule on the outer with a different addy and it took it first go
[19:49] <_Zeus_> why does the model matter?
[19:49] <_Zeus_> dd should still work
[19:49] <MatBoy> _Zeus_: I need a backup image as a file
[19:49] <MatBoy> or files
[19:49] <tigerplug> hey everyone
[19:50] <g0r8y> quanticle: even without the rule there dhcp just kept trying to get the old address
[19:50] <KaMaMi> sorin-mihai haha, hilarious. dont know what i was missing, maybe just an apt-get update - now i got it. was so simple i couldnt get to it lol. thank you very much :)
[19:50] <Alan_M> dd is hardware independant MatBoy
[19:50] <tigerplug> I install ubuntu on my laptop and now everytime I try to access a cd rom it says could now mount? - I really need this CD for Exams.... I want to share it with a vmware but I guess it'd be a good start to get it working with ubuntu first
[19:50] <sorin-mihai> yw. :)
[19:50] <KaMaMi>  * Starting ClamAV daemon clamd
[19:50] <KaMaMi> :)
[19:50] <tomston> Hi everyone
[19:50] <_Zeus_> MatBoy: oh i see
[19:51] <_Zeus_> sort of like an iso for a hard drive
[19:51] <KaMaMi> MatBoy, partimage maybe
[19:51] <rustam> не верю своим глазам...))
[19:51] <MatBoy> KaMaMi: yes I thought about that too
[19:51] <MatBoy> _Zeus_: indeed
[19:51] <KaMaMi> well perfect under knoppix
[19:51] <rustam> судяя по всему здесь серьёзные темы))
[19:51] <Alan_M> dd if=/dev/hd? of=/home/user/Desktop/YourStuff.iso maybe matboy?
[19:51] <tigerplug> anyone able to help with cd drive probs? - Wont mount :(
[19:51] <sorin-mihai> !ru | rustam
[19:52] <_Zeus_> sorin-mihai: that's cool
[19:52] <rustam> помогите!
[19:53] <rustam> выключите это)))))
[19:53] <tigerplug> solved myself :0
[19:53] <Alan_M> !ru > rustam
[19:53] <mirak> can someone tell me how to have smooth video on a readon hd 4850 ?
[19:53] <yao_ziyuan> how do i visit Trash in terminal?
[19:53] <MatBoy> KaMaMi: problem is my sata converter
[19:54] <_Zeus_> yao_ziyuan: cd ~/.local/share/.Trash
[19:54] <yao_ziyuan> _Zeus_: what about root's trash?
[19:54] <kaffe_02> has anyone had their control key stop working/
[19:54] <_Zeus_> oops it's just Trash not .Trash
[19:54] <edward__> Yo, does anybody know how to fix the firewall on netgear? My isn't working right.
[19:54] <g0r8y> quanticle: sudo netstat -a also hangs with an interface up
[19:54] <sorin-mihai> yao_ziyuan, i think there is no root trash
[19:55] <tomston> i have a problem with getting my nvidia drivers to work at the maximum resolution
[19:55] <_Zeus_> sorin-mihai: i think there is
[19:55] <Alan_M> whats not working right about it edward__ more information DEFINATELY needed.
[19:55] <quanticle> g0r8y: Hmm...  Are you sure your network card drivers are okay?
[19:55] <g0r8y> havent updated them for at least a month
[19:55] <_Zeus_> root's trash is in ~root/.local/share/Trash
[19:55] <legend2440> yao_ziyuan: root Trash is        /root/.local/share/Trash
[19:56] <_Zeus_> same as the other user
[19:56] <g0r8y> and was working fine previously
[19:56] <edward__> Alright. I had my wireless router connected. The internet was working but the internet wasn't getting through. When I just used the modem. The internet started working again.
[19:56] <_Zeus_> yao_ziyuan: you will need to become root to access it; use sudo -i
[19:56] <yao_ziyuan> _Zeus_: how do i empty my root's trash in terminal?
[19:56] <quanticle> g0r8y: Hmmm... Anything else changed?
[19:56] <_Zeus_> yao_ziyuan: sudo rm -r ~root/.local/share/Trash/*
[19:57] <quanticle> yao_ziyuan: Just delete everything out of that directory
[19:57] <yao_ziyuan> _Zeus_: i can't do it with gksu nautilus, which says "Sorry, couldn't display all the contents of "trash": Operation not supported"
[19:57] <_Zeus_> yeah do what i said
[19:57] <g0r8y> netstat -a gives two lines on tcp localhost:ipp *:* listen second line is udp localhost:4500 *:* but state is blank, as if thats what its hung on
[19:57] <tomston> I need help with my nvidia drivers - been through hardware settings, envy, installing manually, nothing gets it quite right
[19:58] <yao_ziyuan> _Zeus_: rm: cannot remove `/root/.local/share/Trash/*': No such file or directory
[19:58] <Otacon22> is the old beep-media-player steel avaible?
[19:58] <Kohlrak> what's the command line option for the xfix thing in the recovery mode of ubuntu
[19:58] <g0r8y> quanticle: netstat -a gives two lines on tcp localhost:ipp *:* listen second line is udp localhost:4500 *:* but state is blank, as if thats what its hung on
[19:58] <MIKED> hello hello
[19:58] <_Zeus_> yao_ziyuan: root trash is empty
[19:58] <g0r8y> quanticle: well, this is an asus eeepc its been through quite a lot of changes
[19:59] <_Zeus_> yao_ziyuan: if you want to check type sudo ls -Al ~root/.local/share/Trash
[19:59] <_Zeus_> but it's empty
[19:59] <ScheissDroge1> !trash > ﻿yao_ziyuan
[19:59] <yao_ziyuan> _Zeus_: problem solved by  sudo rm -r /root/.local/share/Trash/files and  sudo rm -r /root/.local/share/Trash/info
[20:00] <_Zeus_> yao_ziyuan: ??? the command i sent you should've deleted those already
[20:00] <yao_ziyuan> _Zeus_: it just seems rm -r doesn't support *
[20:00] <_Zeus_> not possible
[20:00] <g0r8y> quanticle: but the hardware is nice for linux - all has native support
[20:00] <_Zeus_> no such thing
[20:00] <quanticle> g0r8y: Hmmm...  How long does netstat hang for?  I just ran netstat on my box, and it seemed to hang for a while, but completed eventually.
[20:00] <g0r8y> quanticle: still hung from last time
[20:00] <mrpockets> what does "Unprivileged" imply when adding a new user?
[20:01] <quanticle> mrpockets: can't do sudo
[20:01] <Kohlrak> mrpockets: it's not a super user
[20:01] <hubuntu> I need to add a font to my system (libel.ttf)
[20:01] <jerbear> Debolaz: do you know if it's possible to setup a readonly drive in vmware workstation?
[20:01] <mrpockets> quanticle, so Admin is perma sudo,  desktop user doesn't run in sudo, but can command it, and unprivleded can't do sudo at all?
[20:01] <hubuntu> I have the ttf but don't know how to add it to the system
[20:01] <hubuntu> anyone?
[20:02] <joanki123> can anyone tell me how i can get a diagnostic tool that will tell me information about my battery?  mine only gives information when it's about to die
[20:02] <quanticle> mrpockets: I think so.  Not completely sure though.
[20:02] <speener> anyone know why amarok wont show the right tags?
[20:02] <Kohlrak> jerbear: find the hd file and flag it read only.. might crash vmware, but it'll be read only
[20:02] <hubuntu> joanki123, you may want to see the setings for your battery applet
[20:02] <speener> i know they are correct because i just changed them on easytag
[20:02] <joanki123> hubuntu, how do i do that?
[20:02] <speener> plus, when i check the songs properties it shows the correct tag
[20:03] <MIKED> hey guys, I am having trouble with grub(gfx) whenever I try to select windows, it loops back into grub?!
[20:03] <quanticle> g0r8y: Once again, to confirm - when you set a new static IP rule on the router, the address on the Ubuntu box changes?
[20:03] <legend2440> !fonts | hubuntu
[20:03] <g0r8y> quanticle: yeah =(
[20:03] <joanki123> i want to see how much my battery can charge??
[20:03] <joanki123> hubuntu, can you help me?
[20:03] <speener> it just doesn't show the tag on the playlist which sucks ass because i have 76 new artists called 1, 2, 3, etc
[20:03] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿ MIKED: pm me
[20:03] <g0r8y> quanticle: id be happier if it didnt see it at all tbh
[20:03] <hubuntu> you go: System>Preferences>Power Management
[20:04] <hubuntu> joanki123, make sure you have the battery charge monitor added to the panel
[20:05] <mrpockets> tight
[20:05] <g0r8y> quanticle: if i bring down all interfaces apart from lo netstat -a completes fine
[20:05] <hubuntu> or in power managmenet> General make sure the ""always display icon" is selected
[20:05] <jerbear> Debolaz: essentially, i want to make is so that itunes cannot modify my music files
[20:05] <hubuntu> joanki123,
[20:05] <hubuntu> thx legend2440
[20:05] <_Zeus_> if you're using dd to copy a smaller volume to a larger one that has data, do you need to format the larger one first?
[20:05] <joanki123> hubuntu, it works
[20:05] <joanki123> THANKS
[20:05] <bdancer> hi
[20:05] <_Zeus_> or will it fill the leftover with null
[20:05] <mrpockets> next question: How hard would it be to make the password for an account one uses as guest to expire a day after using it?
[20:05] <hubuntu> :)
[20:06] <hubuntu> love to help and be helped at the same time
[20:06] <bdancer> i've got a problem of DBUS not working when Gnome not started
[20:06] <hubuntu> I truly love this community! You people are awesome!
[20:06] <quanticle> g0r8y: Hmmm... does dhclient complete successfully?
[20:06] <g0r8y> quanticle: sometimes yeah sometimes no =s
[20:07] <KaMaMi> mrpockets, you just have to calculate the days from 01.01.1970 :P
[20:07] <KaMaMi> no joke
[20:07] <mrpockets> oh?
[20:07] <g0r8y> quantcile: when its part of a script no, on its own it seems to work fine
[20:07] <shwan___> mrpockets: I think it is not imposable
[20:08] <bdancer> hey! does anyone see a link or smth to make DBUS work in window manager nor gnome??
[20:08] <_Zeus_> mrpockets: how bout cron or anacron?
[20:08] <mrpockets> havent heard of either
[20:08] <quanticle> g0r8y: Run dhclient and see what happens.
[20:08]  * _Zeus_ beats self on head
[20:08] <_Zeus_> try man anacron
[20:08] <g0r8y> quanticle: completed fine
[20:08] <Guest96308> does anybody know how to setup the computer to run a command automatically after a user logs in using SSH?
[20:08] <mrpockets> Ideally i'd like a list of passwords I put in, say  5, all that expire after using them
[20:08] <quanticle> g0r8y: And eth0 was up?
[20:08] <g0r8y> quanticle: but still b0rked
[20:09] <mrpockets> so If i'm out of town or away and someone needs to use my machine, i can have them log onto a super restricted guest environment, and they can only do so once.
[20:09] <_Zeus_> ohh
[20:09] <g0r8y> quanticle: no down
[20:09] <Guest96308> i'm wanting to write a script that e-mails the system administrator to notify them when somebody logs in over ssh
[20:09] <_Zeus_> mrpockets: yeah that's not what i thought you meant...
[20:09] <mrpockets> well WTF MAN!
[20:09] <KaMaMi> mrpockets -e, --expiredate EXPIRE_DATE
[20:09] <KaMaMi>     The date on which the user account will be disabled. The date is specified in the format YYYY-MM-DD.
[20:09] <mrpockets> :-p
[20:09] <quanticle> g0r8y: Did dhclient give any results?
[20:10] <KaMaMi> man useradd
[20:10] <ScheissDroge1> !grub>scheisddroge1
[20:10] <mrpockets> KaMaMi, yeah, but can it be set to a day after logging on the first time?
[20:10] <Totakeke> Update: Okay, I still can't get it to install even when using floppies, trying to boot from the CD, etc. I'm just going to have to put the old hard drive in my new computer and install Linux from there. Thanks though for the help.
[20:10] <mrpockets> like expire +1 day after logon,  instead of a specific date in time?
[20:11] <quanticle> g0r8y: For example, I got this when I did dclient: http://pastebin.com/m23a0cc05
[20:11] <KaMaMi> mrpockets hmm i would use a script for that
[20:11] <g0r8y> quanticle: yeah loads atheros wireless cards make another interface for kismet etc to do promisc stuff
[20:11] <regeya> that sounds double plus ungood Guest96308, though I'd say you could do it through /etc/profile, maybe...aside from that, beats me
[20:11] <mrpockets> aight
[20:11] <mrpockets> thanks guys, I'll look into that s'more
[20:11] <KaMaMi> mrpockets, you can use the "last" command maybe for it
[20:11] <KaMaMi> to verify when the user has logged in
[20:11] <KaMaMi> but thats just a quick thought
[20:12] <g0r8y> quanticle: so if i dont specify an interface and only lo ath0 and wifi0 are up dhcp broadcasts on ath0 and wifi0, but ath0 gets a pack back almost imediately from router
[20:12] <RandyboY> What does "mount error 12 = Cannot allocate memory" mean? This is the message i get from both my Xubuntu and Ubuntu machines when i try to mount/browse a windows share? What could be wrong and how can i fix this?
[20:12] <Guest96308> why does that sound "double plus ungood," regeya?
[20:13] <regeya> sorry, 'twas a joke, have fun with that Guest96308
[20:13] <materic> ﻿Hi i need a help for running a just compiled code. can i address the question?
[20:13] <g0r8y> quanticle: checked ur pastebin - mine is very similar just with two interfaces
[20:13] <ScheissDroge1> !grub
[20:13] <quanticle> g0r8y: Can you pastebin it?
[20:13] <Guest96308> alright. thanks!
[20:13] <g0r8y> yeah kinda hard with no net tho
[20:14] <g0r8y> let me grab some usb sticks
[20:14] <quanticle> g0r8y: Whoops.  >_<
[20:14] <shwan___> mrpockets: they are stored in /etc/shadow and you can change them
[20:14] <Prikolchik> RandyboY, http://linux.derkeiler.com/Newsgroups/comp.os.linux.networking/2006-10/msg00629.html
[20:14] <quanticle> g0r8y: Its probably not important.
[20:14] <Guest25140> hi, any1 using ubuntu 8.04 have a spare moment to help me?
[20:15] <g0r8y> quanticle: gonna have something to eat now tho - thanks for help thus far will bb in 20 mins if ur still around =) - yeah agree but need some way of doing this if im takeing it further.
[20:15] <Treju> net
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[20:15] <Pici> !ask | Guest25140
[20:15] <Flannel> mrpockets, shwan___: no need to edit that by hand, use passwd.
[20:15] <Guest25140> kk ^^
[20:15] <RandyboY> Prikolchik, got it. Ill look into it. Thanks
[20:18] <shwan___> Flannel: well I hav'nt done this before after he asking , did some googling and found some info. sure , a passwd -help gave me a god help! thank you for sharing
[20:18] <givemecoffee> Does anyone have a problem with the default GNOME weather applet (the one near the time/date) not updating sometimes?
[20:20] <Guest25140> i need to know, what elemnts are in ubuntu:hh sessions Preferences -> startup programs, i had removed from there few elements, propably gnome power manager (or sth like that) and now after clicking logo off button nothing happens, screen is frozen, and the only way is to kill x-window by pressing ctrl+alt+del. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=774977 this topic says it's related with gnome power manager, but i don't know how to put it back, cu
[20:20] <shwan___> givemecoffee: no , I do have prereleased updates so i have the last updates on hardy and it seems to work fine
[20:21] <materic> well, I compiled a simple hallo world program using g++ and it supoze to run by tiping "hallo" but it is reported:bash: "hallo: command not found". in comand ls the executable hello is GREEN but is seems that it is not recognized. I changed permission tiping : "chmod +x hallo" and the same.  HELP
[20:21] <givemecoffee> materic, try ./hallo
[20:22] <shwan___> Guest25140: just run it in termial and see if it helps gnome-power-manager
[20:22] <Guest25140> k, lets try
[20:23] <materic> ok ﻿givemecoffee-MAN thanks very much
[20:23] <materic> :)
[20:24] <givemecoffee> materic, you are welcome
[20:26] <Pnux> hello, anybody here?
[20:26] <shentino> How do I enable vgacon/framebuffer/whatever-ya-call-it on my terminal?
[20:26] <shentino> I'm using Ubuntu 7.04
[20:28] <shentino> How do I enable "framebuffer" on my virtual consoles?
[20:29] <shentino> I've tried modprobe fbcon but it didn't actually activate it
[20:29] <rideh> i'm having issues with sql, but i dont think its permissions - error 1017 cant find file errors when i issue select *    i can view tables int he database
[20:29] <juro> I have a 24" widescreen Dell monitor but unfortunately Ubuntu 8.04 does not recognise it - now I cannot rotate the display ...
[20:30] <TJ-Linux> i've set up a chrooted user for ssh ftp access with the home directory set as the web root (/var/www/).  I want to add an authorized_keys file (id_rsa.pub) so that I don't have to login with a password via ssh.  where should I put this file for this user?  normally it is in /home/username/.ssh/, but here would I have to place it in /var/www/.ssh ?
[20:32] <isleshocky77> Anyone have any experience with opensync-plugin-synce?  When I install it I get a seg fault error from msync
[20:34] <rideh> Anyone have any experience with moving a database from one server to another? i'm able to show tables on the new database but any query returns errors not able to find *.frm files
[20:34] <rideh> - sorry mysql install
[20:34] <thearthur> busy nerd seeking simple time log software so I can feel geeky about attempting to be organized, what program is most fun/least-un-fun
[20:34] <Pici> rideh: You may want to ask in #mysql
[20:37] <User18> Haly
[20:37] <rideh> Pici giving that a shot
[20:38] <User18> fucking
[20:38] <User18> hahó FUCKING
[20:38] <Gnea> !language | User18
[20:39] <Gnea> !hu | User18
[20:39] <User18> FUCKING
[20:40] <gRaCiOsO> somene her use avant-window-navigator ?
[20:40] <FloodBot1> User18: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:40] <gRaCiOsO> somene here use avant-window-navigator ?
[20:40] <rsc_> hi guys. what's the best way to participate in the ubuntu-art mailing lsit?
[20:40] <Phantal-> I've been having a lot of trouble with wireless.  Some of the networks I need access to are not keyed, and I just use iwconfig/dhclient to choose the ESSID, set the access point address, and get an IP address.
[20:40] <Lunar_Lamp> !nullmailer
[20:40] <Pici> rideh: Signup on http://lists.ubuntu.com
[20:41] <Phantal-> Trouble is, when I do: dhclient wlan0 ... sometimes it'll just keep sending DHCPREQUEST attempts and never get a response
[20:41] <sharperguy> Anyone know why I don't get write permission on this hfs+ external drive?
[20:41] <Kartagis> I was installing TCL and I got the error C compiler cannot create executables. what to do?
[20:41] <Phantal-> Others in the same area are not experiencing similar issues when this happens
[20:41] <Phantal-> Sometimes I can resolve the problem by rebooting, but that doesn't always resolve the problem
[20:41] <sjovan> Kartagis: what was the rest of the error?
[20:42] <gRaCiOsO> somene here use avant-window-navigator ?
[20:42] <Kartagis> sjovan, http://pastebin.com/f27b72724
[20:42] <MIKED> hello
[20:42] <Gnea> !ask | gRaCiOsO
[20:42] <_Zeus_> gRaCiOsO: i use avant
[20:42] <Gnea> !hi | MIKED
[20:42] <zod21> gRaCiOso i do
[20:42] <zod21> why whats up
[20:42] <nillerzz> I have a wg111v2 and try as I might I can't get connected to the internets in a stable way.
[20:43] <nillerzz> Please don't link me to the wifi help page
[20:43] <zod21> are you having problems with awn or something what is it
[20:43] <gRaCiOsO> zod21,  i have this message on terminal when i try to use it /usr/share/avant-window-navigator/awn-manager/awnPreferences.py:242: DeprecationWarning: raising a string exception is deprecated
[20:43] <gRaCiOsO>   raise "\nKey: "+key+" isn't set.\nRestarting AWN usually solves this issue\n"
[20:43] <MIKED> Someone was helping me out but I had to reboot in the process....
[20:43] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿MIKED:did it work ?
[20:43] <_Zeus_> gRaCiOsO: sorry haven't had that.  I just started using avant today myself
[20:43] <zod21> does this happen only on startup
[20:44] <zod21> or does it happen each time you open it
[20:44] <sjovan> Kartagis: "See `config.log' for more details." maby you should take a look at the log?
[20:44] <zod2108> kfk
[20:44] <oskude> Kartagis, maybe you need the "build-essential" package
[20:44] <gRaCiOsO> zod21,  i have never used avant it is my first time and i cant open it
[20:44] <gRaCiOsO> zod21,  so i tryied by terminal and it is the message
[20:45] <zod21> well how did you install it, sudo apt-get or did you use debian package
[20:45] <zod21> s
[20:45] <liamkmc> howdy
[20:45] <gRaCiOsO> zod21,  with apt
[20:46] <zod21> if you used sudo apt-get install avant-window-navigator it should work, but if you used the debian packages, you need to install 4 or 5 packages or it wont work
[20:46] <gRaCiOsO> zod21,  do u recommend me other way?
[20:46] <zod21> ok well sudo apt-get autoremove avant-window-navigator
[20:46] <Gnea> ... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=867631
[20:46] <zod21> and then go to getdeb.com search for avant and download all the packages you can
[20:46] <zod21> there should be like five
[20:46]  * Gnea notes that patience is a virtue around these parts...
[20:47] <gRaCiOsO> do i install all of them?
[20:47] <zod21> and if one of the packages doesnt wanna install just install another one. cause some of the packages are dependant on others so you cant install them until another has been installed
[20:47] <zod21> yes install all of them
[20:47] <djhash> Kartagis: did you use sudo?
[20:48] <Kartagis> djhash, what for?
[20:48] <zod21> what i meant by another one, is install the next one, of the five you download
[20:48] <djhash> Kartagis: for the ./configure command
[20:48] <zod21> it really doesnt matter what order, but you need all five
[20:48] <sjovan> Kartagis: "See `config.log' for more details." maby you should take a look at the log?
[20:48] <zod21> or i guess one is unneeded, but thats just the awn applets, but some people like them, i dont use them though
[20:48] <gRaCiOsO> zod21,  ok i will try it thanks
[20:48] <Kartagis> djhash, I don't need sudo for ./configure, do I?
[20:49] <sjovan> Kartagis: maby pastebin it aswell...
[20:49] <bfig> i am having trouble installing freepascal compiler. to be honest, i have no idea what thing to download
[20:49] <zod21> sure man, my email is nocstud@gmail.com if that doesnt work email me. i have a meeting to go to right now, so i gotta bounce but good luck gRaCiOsO
[20:49] <Kartagis> sjovan, I pastebin'd it
[20:49] <Kartagis> sjovan, http://pastebin.com/f27b72724
[20:49] <sjovan> maybe*
[20:49] <geekishgeekguy> i'm screwed...totem will not read my dvds. ive installed all the packages, but it still reads "cannot read scource". any help
[20:50] <zod2108> geekishgeekguy
[20:50] <zod2108> you need libdvdcss.deb
[20:50] <_Zeus_> brb
[20:50] <bfig> i am not sure if my OS is 64 bits or not, and if it is not the case, what should i install? fpc for 64 or for 32 bits? (my processor is an AMD turion x2)
[20:50] <Kartagis> it works now, thanks guys
[20:50] <Gnea> !css | geekishgeekguy
[20:50] <geekishgeekguy> is that in the synaptic pkg mgr?
[20:50] <zod2108> google it and download them there are two required packagess you need
[20:50] <djhash> Kartagis: not really..
[20:50] <sjovan> Kartagis: so that's the pastebin of config.log? then i don't understand line 90
[20:51] <zod2108> j
[20:51] <|WolF|> Question: I lost my ubuntu instalation, when i run live cd i can see the ubuntu partition, but in g-part it shows me that HDD is empy and that it has no partitions, is it possible some how to return those partitions?
[20:51] <Kartagis> sjovan, yes it is
[20:51] <geekishgeekguy> are the 2 pkgs libdvdread3 and libdvdnav4?
[20:52] <sjovan> Kartagis: stupide, but hey. glad you got it to work
[20:52] <zod2108> those arent the ones i use, but they might work
[20:52] <bfig> anyone can help me? i'm really lost and my google-fu hasn't helped me in the least bit
[20:52] <zod2108> geekishgeekguy google libdvdcss
[20:52] <Gnea> geekishgeekguy: look in /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/ for a shell script
[20:52] <zod2108> there are 2 packages with that name
[20:52] <geekishgeekguy> zod2108: the ones i said were in the help files
[20:52] <Gnea> geekishgeekguy: no need to google
[20:53] <zod2108> ok well try them
[20:53] <Marcin26p> can samone help me i have instaled drivers for gforce and have litle problems woth x server now:/
[20:53] <MIKED> hello
[20:53] <zod2108> they might work
[20:53] <Gnea> Marcin26p: what's the problem?
[20:53] <zod2108> im just sayin the ones ive used like a hundred times are called libdvdcss
[20:53] <zod2108> haha
[20:53]  * beauda says hello
[20:53] <Gnea> !hi
[20:53] <ikonia> Marcin26p: you needed to use the nvidia-glx package and not install the drives from nvidia.com as I explained to you earlier
[20:53] <geekishgeekguy> gotit
[20:54] <Kartagis> can someone help me fix my bind? seems my dns won't work
[20:54] <ikonia> Kartagis: what's the issue
[20:54] <|WolF|> Question: I lost my ubuntu instalation, when i run live cd i can see the ubuntu partition, but in g-part it shows me that HDD is empy and that it has no partitions, is it possible some how to return those partitions?
[20:54] <Marcin26p> failed to initialize grafhic nvidia  device ikonia when i used package the same thing apered
[20:54] <zod2108> geekishgeekguy its workin
[20:54] <Marcin26p> but when i delete xorg.conf
[20:54] <ikonia> Marcin26p: yes, but now you've messed it up with the drivers from nvidia.com
[20:54] <Marcin26p> x starts on 1400x1050
[20:54] <Marcin26p> :/
[20:54] <Kartagis> ikonia, my hosted domains won't resolve
[20:54] <Gnea> |WolF|: if you remember the exact places where the cylinder boundaries meet, yes
[20:55] <ikonia> Kartagis: ok - so tell me more about the issue, show me your bind config, show me your zone file, show me your resolv.conf, explain what happens when you try to resolve
[20:55] <MIKED> someone was helping me out
[20:55] <ikonia> Kartagis: use the pastebin
[20:55] <Marcin26p> ikonia but haw can i turn back when i have kernel modules mesed up ?
[20:55] <|WolF|> how ?
[20:55] <ikonia> Marcin26p: manually remove it all
[20:55] <Kartagis> ikonia, and therefore I can't receive any emails
[20:55] <ikonia> Marcin26p: or re-install
[20:55] <roger_padactor> whats a good music player for ubuntu?
[20:55] <kaffe_02> vlc
[20:55] <Marcin26p> haw to remove manualy ?
[20:55] <MIKED> rythmbox
[20:55] <Marcin26p> ;P
[20:55] <Marcin26p> drivers i can do that ?
[20:55] <Marcin26p> kernel modules dont know
[20:56] <ikonia> Marcin26p: manually rm the files, the people in #nvidia will help you with that
[20:56] <sjovan> roger_padactor: that depends... how many songs do you got?
[20:56] <Marcin26p> wewill se ;)
[20:56] <roger_padactor> around 1200
[20:56] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿ MIKED:?
[20:56] <richard_drg> use MA ^^
[20:56] <sjovan> roger_padactor: then i would recomend amarok. note: amarok sucks teh balls on big collections
[20:57] <djhash> |WolF|: in the liveCD i belive there is a testdisk program.. (use it in terminal).. [Use it with CAUTION]
[20:57] <Marcin26p> ikonia: reinstall easy to say :/
[20:57] <roger_padactor> one of them run as a server? that my ps3 can see?
[20:57] <Gnea> |WolF|: testdisk or sfdisk should be able to help reconstruct it
[20:57] <ikonia> Marcin26p: pardon ?
[20:57] <|WolF|> djhash: can u tell me the command?
[20:57] <djhash> |WolF|: testdisk
[20:58] <drarok> Hi guys, anyone know a piece of software to record MIDI input off the top of their heads? It's proving hard to find.
[20:58] <|WolF|> I can see them in places all of them
[20:58] <sjovan> roger_padactor: use gnump3d for music-server
[20:58] <|WolF|> even can enter in them
[20:58] <Marcin26p> ikonia: my laptop dont have any cd dvd fdd and its imposible to boot from usb :/
[20:58] <ikonia> drarok: rose garden
[20:58] <ikonia> Marcin26p: then don't re-install, I told you the two ways to remove it, as I told you before, and I also told you where you could get help
[20:58] <drarok> ikonia: Lovely, thanks.
[20:58] <ikonia> drarok: little bloaty, but very god
[20:58] <ikonia> good
[20:58] <zod2108> drarok you could always try a windows app in wine. try a low resource app though
[20:59] <Marcin26p> yea but i have one porblem with kernel module for this drivers
[20:59] <djhash> |WolF|: this is a very delicate matter.. them is not very helpful for you or us.. please be more specific..
[20:59] <ikonia> Marcin26p: and I've told you what to do and how to fix it
[20:59] <Marcin26p> i can easyily uninstal this driver
[20:59] <ikonia> Marcin26p: it's not just the driver
[20:59] <ikonia> Marcin26p: the installer does more than just drop in a kernel module
[20:59] <Marcin26p> yea but you know im noob at linux
[20:59] <MrMist> Ehm
[21:00] <|WolF|> djhash:  well i have 1 partition ntfs and 3 ext3 partitions
[21:00] <MrMist> envy won't work
[21:00] <Marcin26p> you tell me to rm files :/
[21:00] <ikonia> Marcin26p: yes, and I've told you 3 times where to get help
[21:00] <MrMist> with ATI
[21:00] <Marcin26p> hehe
[21:00] <Marcin26p> still w8 ;)
[21:00] <ikonia> Marcin26p: I'm not laughing your wasting my time and taking up the channels
[21:00] <Marcin26p> for nvidia
[21:00] <Kartagis> ikonia, when I try to resolve, I get connection timed out; no servers could be reached. my files are at http://pastebin.com/f7bca3ce3
[21:00] <|WolF|> djhash: i can enter in every single one of them and see the contents, but in g-part it tels me that hdd is unpartitioned
[21:00] <ikonia> Kartagis: ok - so the first issue is the dns servers,
[21:00] <Kartagis> ikonia, exactly
[21:01] <ikonia> Kartagis: it appears to not be able to contact a dns server, that either means your dns server isn't running - or it is pointing at a non-existant one
[21:01] <|WolF|> djhash:  i tried testdisk but it is not included in liveCd it needs installation
[21:01] <djhash> |WolF|: then you could try sfdisk
[21:01] <Kartagis> wtf? it seems stopped
[21:02] <djhash> !wtf
[21:02] <|WolF|> it has sfdisk but i don't know the right string, never used before
[21:02] <Marcin26p> heh ;P
[21:02] <MrMist> Anyone tried envy? I'm having problems installing the drivers for a ATI Radeon 9800 Pro card
[21:02] <|WolF|> djhash: it has sfdisk but i don't know the right string, never used before
[21:03] <MIKED> hello
[21:03] <Kartagis> sorry
[21:03] <Kartagis> for my language
[21:03] <lelito> hola
[21:03] <drarok> I shall return once rg has downloaded, I suspect. ;)
[21:03] <lelito> dir
[21:03] <djhash> |WolF|: how many physical hard drives do you have? and how are the partitions created in each one?
[21:04] <lelito> oops
[21:04] <lelito> hi all
[21:04] <Kartagis> ikonia, it should listen to port 953 too, no?
[21:04] <|WolF|> djhash: 1 physical HDD witth 4 partitions, 1 ntsf and 3 ext3
[21:04] <ikonia> Kartagis: key is 53 tcp and udp
[21:05] <lelito> how i can change the channel here?
[21:05] <djhash> |WolF|: SATA or IDE drives?
[21:05] <ikonia> lelito: /join $channel
[21:05] <lelito> tnx a lot:P
[21:05] <|WolF|> djhash: IDE one drive
[21:05] <juro> where does Ubuntu mount Windows shares to>?
[21:05] <djhash> |WolF|: type "sfdisk -l /dev/hda
[21:05] <ikonia> Kartagis: 53 tcp/udp is "bind"
[21:05] <RemsSs> hi everybody
[21:05] <Kurt> hi
[21:06] <RemsSs> i search a plugin which perform me to have text of my music ?
[21:06] <|WolF|> djhash: /dev/hda: No such file or directory |  sfdisk: cannot open /dev/hda for reading
[21:06] <lelito> and the channel list?
[21:07] <MatBoy> has someone a solution to "resize" a rdp session ?
[21:07] <ikonia> lelito: join #freenode for irc lessons
[21:07] <Kartagis> ikonia, it stopped by itself. now it doesn't resolve. can you help me? are you looking at my files?
[21:07] <MatBoy> I thought this was not possible anymore
[21:07] <lelito> ok tnx
[21:07] <djhash> |WolF|: try sda
[21:07] <ikonia> Kartagis: your files look fine, you may want to consider not using views until you get this working
[21:08] <Kartagis> ikonia, it was working yesterday
[21:08] <bfig> anybody can help me? i'm a newbie at this
[21:08] <|WolF|> djhash: it shows them i put sudo infront and it listed them with sda
[21:09] <djhash> |WolF|: !pastebin the list
[21:09] <Kartagis> ikonia, it resolve to my external IP if i keep resolv.conf at 192.168.1.1, and if I change it to 1.2 it doesn't resolve at all
[21:09] <ikonia> Kartagis: if nothing has changed on the server then the only thing that could have changed is a.) the server that is the root server for the domain b.) a firewall
[21:09] <MrMist> ﻿Anyone here who's tried installing the newest ATI drivers? Envyng crashes when I try to install them
[21:10] <ikonia> Kartagis: is listening on .2 ?
[21:10] <ArielMT> howdy, folks.  I have a broadcom bcm4401-b0 on-board ethernet adapter, and it quit working recently.  ubuntu 8.04 is the only os installed.  the kernel version, according to uname, is 2.6.24-19-generic.  how do i find out whether it's a hardware or software problem?
[21:10] <ikonia> Kartagis: what is the difference between .1 and .2
[21:10] <Kartagis> .1 is the gateway, .2 is the server
[21:10] <ScheissDroge1> !broadcom
[21:10] <ikonia> Kartagis: is this on a DSL line ?
[21:11] <|WolF|> djhash: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/40497/
[21:11] <Kartagis> ikonia, yes
[21:11] <ikonia> Kartagis: you know that's a really bad idea
[21:11] <erUSUL> ArielMT: is not listed on ifconfig?
[21:11] <Kartagis> ikonia, why?
[21:11] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿MrMist:I downloaded directly from ati for a x1600
[21:11] <ScheissDroge1> löle mike
[21:11] <ScheissDroge1> miked
[21:11] <root> How do I install Tk for perl? I keep getting this error:
[21:12] <ikonia> Kartagis: 1.) each domain should have 2 dns servers 2.) the dns servers should be on seperate address ranges and machines 3.) the dns servers should not be on async lines 4.) a lot of ISPS will block network services 5.) home networking is not designed to deal with that
[21:12] <MIKED> hey
[21:12] <KaMaMi> irc as root? JEHOVA!
[21:12] <ikonia> MIKED: what do you want ? you keep just saying "hi"
[21:12] <Guest13069> Cannot find X include files via /usr/include
[21:12] <Guest13069> Cannot find X include files anywhere at ./myConfig line 369.
[21:12] <Guest13069> Compilation failed in require at Makefile.PL line 37.
[21:12] <Guest13069> BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Makefile.PL line 39.
[21:12] <KaMaMi> :)
[21:12] <FloodBot1> Guest13069: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:13] <erUSUL> Guest13069: sudo apt-get install perl-tk
[21:13] <ArielMT> erUSUL: it's listed as eth0
[21:13] <Kartagis> ikonia, it used to work well with my previous distribution
[21:13] <erUSUL> !info perl-tk > Guest13069
[21:13] <ikonia> Kartagis: that doesn't change anything I've just said
[21:13] <erUSUL> ArielMT: but it does not work? how it fails?
[21:13] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿ikonia:i have a pm with mike, who has to reboot to check an grub issue, so sry for us finding back
[21:13] <Guest13069> erUSUL: That seemed to work; thank you. ^^
[21:14] <erUSUL> Guest13069: compiling from source is allways the las resort... first try to find the right package
[21:14] <djhash> |WolF|: ok.. looks like your partition table got messed up.. install testdisk.. its better to fix this issue than using sfdisk..
[21:15] <|WolF|> djhash: it is possible to install it while i am on LiveCD?
[21:15] <djhash> |WolF|: yes..
[21:16] <|WolF|> djhash:  E: Couldn't find package testdisk
[21:17] <ArielMT> erUSUL: no lights on the adapter, no entries in the dhcp server's logs for the mac address
[21:18] <erUSUL> ArielMT: and if you do "sudo dhclient eth0" do you see any error msg or something on dmesg (tailf /var/log/messages )
[21:18] <djhash> |WolF|: type "cat /etc/apt/sources.list"
[21:20] <croxis> Hello people.  Pulseaudio reconizes and pipes audio to my onboard card just fine, but it isn't recognizing my audigy card. Can anyone point me to documentation on how to troubleshoot this, I havent found any, thank you!
[21:20] <|WolF|> djhash: i turned on the universe and installed testdisk
[21:20] <djhash> |WolF|: ok..cool..
[21:20] <ArielMT> erUSUL: no errors to either console or messages log.  four DHCPDISCOVERs, no DHCPOFFERS received
[21:21] <|WolF|> djhash: now what to do ?
[21:21] <|WolF|> to create a new log file?
[21:21] <erUSUL> ArielMT: but it works with prior kernels? seems like a regression you should report
[21:21] <djhash> |WolF|: yes.. create a log
[21:21] <juannicolas> Hi, I don't know if Im in the right channel but I need some help with my pptpd. I already configure it but is not letting me get connected. I'm getting http://pastebin.com/d5d12787a
[21:22] <gauravkumar> anyone knows a good way to use voice chat usin gtalk on linux?
[21:22] <acrousey> when I am trying to apt get the storage manager, what do I need to get? "sudo apt-get install ______"?
[21:22] <djhash> |WolF|: now you should see all partitions..
[21:22] <ArielMT> erUSUL: didn't try prior kernels.  brb
[21:23] <erUSUL> ArielMT: it never worked?
[21:23] <alexys> кто-нибудб по русски говорит?
[21:23] <ArielMT> it did work until thursday
[21:23] <djhash> !ru | alexys
[21:24] <djhash> |WolF|: select the partition that has your "lost" filesystem..
[21:24] <Maber> hi guys
[21:24] <melen> Does anyone know if it is normal to have cron.daily, cron.d, cron.hourly, cron.weekly and cron.monthly directories in the /etc/ folder if i have never programmed any tasks to be run? Thanks
[21:25] <roger_padactor> using wine to run itunes it installed fine but it need quicktime installed anyone have the link to the windows version, i go there with this comp all it shows me is mac versions
[21:26] <|WolF|> djhash: what should i put on the partition where is my linux boot ?
[21:26] <Maber> hmm, my bluetooth icon disappears when i am idle for while. i think this is a bug
[21:26] <|WolF|> djhash:  becouse i use dualboot win and linux
[21:27] <djhash> |WolF|: do you use grub?
[21:27] <|WolF|> yup
[21:27] <|WolF|> djhash: i know even on whitch one is it
[21:27] <macd> I have a 20g ipod, 1st or 2nd gen, worked fine the first time I plugged it in mounted to /media/name ipod now when I plug it in it shows up on computer:/// but its greyed out, right clicking gived the option to mount volume
[21:27] <Otacon22> !ati
[21:27] <macd> mounting volume never completes, syslog, dmesg show nothing
[21:28] <danand_> !themes | danand_
[21:29] <|WolF|> djhash: should i use A-add partition or L - load partition?
[21:29] <mizipzor_> where is the login manager selected? i have both kdes and gnomes installed
[21:29] <hermes0710> hello to all
[21:29] <Kartagis> ikonia, how do I stop NetworkManager from modifying my /etc/resolv.conf everytimt I reboot?
[21:30] <djhash> |WolF|: first azalyse the partition.. see if it can find damaged/lost partitions
[21:30] <thedarkone> can linux play windows games?
[21:30] <sharperguy> How come the virtualbox kernel modules always behind the current kernel?
[21:30] <mizipzor_> thedarkone: with the help of wine, yes
[21:30] <jrib> thedarkone: some, with wine or cedega
[21:30] <hermes0710> thedarkone use wine
[21:31] <jrib> !wine > thedarkone
[21:31] <thedarkone> i am lost i have both installed
[21:32] <melen> Does anyone know if it is normal to have cron.daily, cron.d, cron.hourly, cron.weekly and cron.monthly directories in the /etc/ folder if i have never programmed any tasks to be run? Thanks
[21:32] <jrib> thedarkone: check wine's appdb for your application
[21:32] <jrib> melen: yes
[21:32] <Kurt> melen: yes, system tasks such as updating from repos use cron.daily
[21:33] <thedarkone> !appdb
[21:33] <melen> thanks kurt and jrib
[21:34] <lint> can someone tell me how to uninstall totem movie player?
[21:34] <Regel> lint, dont if u are running ubuntu
[21:34] <toris> I've installed ubuntu studio - and need a networkmanager to manage wireless connections - which do i install? I installed wlassistant - but I don't like it..
[21:34] <MXIIA> How can I upgrade my linux kernel? (I have 2.6.24-19-generic)
[21:34] <jrib> lint: use APT or one of its front-ends.  Why though?  Why not just leave it?
[21:34] <lint> Regel: why not?
[21:34] <iGama> lint, you can let it be, and install what you want
[21:35] <lint> totem does not work as well as vlc i have noticed
[21:35] <iGama> lint, why dont you try totem-xine ?
[21:35] <linuxguymarshall> Anyone know how I can make Thunderbird download mail every X number of mins?
[21:35] <iGama> lint, it uses the xine engine that you might like beter
[21:35] <toris> what network manager do I install in ubuntu ?
[21:35] <iGama> linuxguymarshall, hmm 1mint
[21:35] <iGama> toris, its already installed
[21:36] <Kurt> toris: network-manager comes installed by default
[21:36] <bfig> i have a big problem
[21:36] <toris> iGama, not in ubuntu studio I think
[21:36] <thedarkone> whatz is best to play need for speed series
[21:36] <Regel> lint, because ubuntu-desktop package requires it, and u need that package to upgrade to newer version of ubuntu
[21:36] <MXIIA>  How can I upgrade my linux kernel? (I have 2.6.24-19-generic)
[21:36] <linuxguymarshall> iGama:k
[21:36] <iGama> linuxguymarshall, if you go to the account preferences , in server configuration , its there
[21:36] <jrib> thedarkone: what did appdb say?
[21:36] <lint> regel: oh, nvermind than
[21:36] <thedarkone> not there
[21:36] <iGama> toris, so install network-manager-gnome
[21:36] <bfig> i just nuked my default repository link while following a tutorial to install wine
[21:36] <linuxguymarshall> iGama : Thanks
[21:37] <jrib> thedarkone: then try to install it.  That means no one that has tried has created a page on appdb yet.  If wine doesn't work, try cedega
[21:37] <Kartagis> how do I stop NetworkManager from modifying my /etc/resolv.conf everytimt I reboot?
[21:37] <jrib> bfig: system -> administration -> software sources
[21:37] <jrib> !wine > bfig
[21:37] <thedarkone> jrib do i have to use cd because i uploaded game cd to hdd
[21:37] <Osse> !netsplit
[21:38] <melen> Hello. I was looking at my system logs, auth.log and saw something weird. I am the only person with the password to a root account on ubuntu 8.10 on my computer. THere are others who know the password for a limited account though. The thing is i saw the following log http://pastebin.com/d298be6d3 and these events occurred at times I was not even home, where I have my pc. DId someone login as root or do something strangE? thanks
[21:38] <MatBoy> does someone use ts to rdp to a server ?
[21:38] <jrib> thedarkone: I don't know
[21:38] <jrib> !studio > toris
[21:38] <Kartagis> MatBoy, I do
[21:38] <bfig> jrib: thanks!
[21:38] <iGama> melen, it was made by CRON
[21:38] <sacix4> www.orkut.com/
[21:39] <iGama> there was no security breach
[21:39] <melen> iGama im sorry but i dont know what that means
[21:39] <iGama> melen, CRON is like a schedule to run stuff, like, I want ubuntu to run X every hour
[21:39] <m__> hi every body
[21:40] <iGama> melen, and its used by the system for some rotine stuff
[21:40] <toris> jrib, Yea, I know - but I have nevertheless got to get the wireless to work ok
[21:40] <melen> iGama ok thanks. but i suppose it could also be used to run malicious tasks i am not aware of...
[21:40] <iGama> melen, if you see the time, its made hourly and - CRON[32683]: pam_unix(cron:session):
[21:41] <jrib> toris: this is not the ubuntu studio channel is what I am trying to tell you
[21:41] <iGama> melen, it can only do that if ROOT schedules that
[21:41] <thedarkone> i am guessing i gona install windows
[21:41] <toris> jrib, ok, bye
[21:41] <iGama> only root permission can schedule cron with root permissions
[21:41] <mat> which one do you guys, if any, use, Avant windows manager or Cairo-Dock?
[21:41] <Denise> someone knows what i can do if i see pidgin 2 times installed in the cache but I m not able to purge it?
[21:42] <Denise> and it says me that pidgin is not installed
[21:42] <jrib> Denise: show us what you see in a pastebin
[21:42] <iGama> Denise, apt-get clean
[21:42] <iGama> to clean the apt cache
[21:42] <Kurt> mat: I use Avant
[21:42] <podsix> hello,  Installed python-doc and python-examples via synaptic.  how do I access them?
[21:42] <Kartagis> how do I stop NetworkManager from modifying my /etc/resolv.conf everytimt I reboot?
[21:43] <Denise> what is the pastebin
[21:43] <iGama> melen, run as root: crontab -l , this will list the cron schedules made by root, if empty , its only system schedules running
[21:43] <Slart> !paste
[21:43] <Kartagis> !pastebin | Denise
[21:43] <Kurt> Kartagis: I don't know of a way to do that...if you have specific IP's in mind for DNS resolves, could you use a script on startup to overwrite the contents of /etc/resolv.conf?
[21:43] <Denise> apt-get clean doesnt do anything
[21:43] <jrib> podsix: probably in /usr/share/doc/python/
[21:44] <Slart> Kartagis: there's a some directive available to keep the dhcp client from over writing the default dns servers.. I'm guessing that's what you want to do
[21:44] <Slart> Kartagis: I think it's called "prepend"
[21:44] <podsix> jrib, thanks
[21:44] <iGama> Denise, it doens output nothing, thats correct
[21:44] <iGama> now check the cache
[21:45] <jrib> podsix: /usr/share/doc/python-examples/ for the examples one
[21:45] <Slart> Kartagis: it doesn't really keep the dhcp server from overwriting them.. but it inserts a server of your choice before any servers from the dhcp server
[21:45] <kredward> et
[21:45] <drarok> Is it possible to use aptitude to install to a different location? Ie: onto a USB stick?
[21:45] <Kartagis> Slart, what  do I do with that prepend?
[21:45] <jrib> drarok: not really, no
[21:45] <drarok> Nuts.
[21:45] <Kartagis> it's a package?
[21:45] <MXIIA> When using "Connect to Server" is there a way to make your self have Owner (if you are owner), and be able to CHMOD the files?
[21:46] <Denise> it is in pool
[21:46] <drarok> Then I can't use rosegarden, 'cause it's too big. I need something much less... fully featured.
[21:46] <Slart> Kartagis: it's a command for the file "dhclient.conf"
[21:46] <drarok> I just wanna record some incoming MIDI notes
[21:46] <Kcaj> Dude
[21:46] <Kcaj> Why does nobody ever recommend lmms?
[21:46] <Prikolchik> Can anybody please tell me how i can make Linux work with files that have names in russian? I;ve installed English version
[21:46] <Kcaj> Or audacity?
[21:46] <Otacon22> !codecs
[21:47] <Kcaj> lmms and audacity are perfect replacements for FL Studio and Audition, really.
[21:47] <drarok> Kcaj: audacity didn't appear to do midi
[21:47] <Kcaj> Audacity is not what you want for what yo uare trying
[21:47] <Kcaj> Go get lmms
[21:47] <Kcaj> Audacity is more for layering multiple audio tracks or recording vocals over an audio track
[21:47] <drarok> I'll give it a try once I've freed up some space. :(
[21:48] <Kcaj> (similar to audition, or, before Adobe bought it, Cool Edit)
[21:48] <Prikolchik> Can anybody please tell me how i can make Linux work with files that have names in russian? I;ve installed English version
[21:48] <Kcaj> Until you got space, go look it up
[21:48] <MXIIA> When using "Connect to Server" is there a way to make your self have Owner (if you are owner), and be able to CHMOD the files?
[21:48] <Kcaj> lmms is pretty good
[21:48] <TiredWolf> Prikolchik, uh, there shouldn't be anything special to do, they should work out of the box
[21:49] <Prikolchik> TiredWolf, im trying to open a zip or rar file that has files with russian names in them and it fails to unpack saying file doesnt exist
[21:49] <Slart> Kartagis: here's how I've done it on my server.. I want it to use 127.0.0.1 as a dns server instead of whatever my isp wants it to use.. so I add this line in /etc/dhcp3/dhclient.conf. "prepend domain-name-servers 127.0.0.1;"
[21:49] <Denise> http://paste.ubuntu.com/40502/
[21:49] <TiredWolf> Prikolchik, ah, that's another issue entirely, i fear it would do the same with the russian version... try using unzip or unrar directly from the command line instead of using file-roller
[21:49] <Prikolchik> TiredWolf, also Amarok hangs if i try to play an mp3 with russian name. But if i rename it to english characters it works fine
[21:50] <marcules> Good Evening ^^
[21:50] <Prikolchik> TirefWolf, what about Amarok?
[21:50] <amal029_> Its good mornin for me
[21:50] <eddVRS_> evening
[21:50] <tgvcdr> night
[21:51] <Kartagis> Slart, I did that. I'll see the effect later.
[21:51] <Kartagis> hoşçakalın / bye
[21:51] <Prikolchik> TiredWolf, any idea?
[21:51] <ArcInversion>  
[21:51] <cyste_> bjour :)
[21:51] <cyste_> c koi le nom du chanel en francais svp
[21:52] <MXIIA> When using "Connect to Server" is there a way to make your self have Owner (if you are owner), and be able to CHMOD the files?
[21:52] <Scub> I installed Ubuntu with Wubi, so there was Windows XP, Vista, and Ubuntu in my boot choices menu. I then switched the default ot Windows XP and Ubuntu has disappeared from the munu. Does anyone know how to get it back?
[21:52] <TiredWolf> Prikolchik: i don't know
[21:52] <Prikolchik> TiredWolf, thanks anyway
[21:53] <chamunks> When I open VLC and start playing anything with audio I cannot also open Audacious and play anything even if vlc is paused and visa versa also same thing if flash video is open in firefox it locks my sound to that can anyone point me in the right direction?
[21:53] <rwaite> wow, ubuntu is slick
[21:53] <cyste_> what the name of chanel ubuntu in french please ?
[21:53] <cyste_> ahaha
[21:53] <Slart> !fr
[21:53] <cyste_> yes
[21:53] <rwaite> it even got my wireless card working automatically
[21:53] <rwaite> i've been f-ing around with that with debian for a while
[21:53] <Slart> chamunks: are you using pulseaudio?
[21:54] <Kurt> Scub: Try looking at the file /boot/grub/menu.lst on the Ubuntu partition and see if the boot choice is still there and just commented out, or entirely missing (I'm assuming it is still booting with GRUB?)
[21:54] <Kcaj> Dude
[21:54] <eddVRS_> rwait- it is good hey
[21:54] <chamunks> Slart, only some of my programs will let me use pulseaudio the rest prefer alsa
[21:54] <Kcaj> If you think Ubuntu is slick
[21:54] <Kcaj> Go update Compiz Fusion
[21:54] <Kcaj> and turn the sphere on.. lol
[21:54] <Kcaj> ;)
[21:54] <FloodBot1> Kcaj: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:54] <eddVRS_> new sphere??!! I'm using an old version (not main release) that does a cylinder- but a sphere!
[21:54] <rwaite> i like it. i dont like the gnome though. i mean i do, its very slick, but i like my computer as minimal as possible. is it possible to install ubuntu with only fluxbox from the get go?
[21:54] <chamunks> Slart, in fact audacious was using oss
[21:55] <Kcaj> Yeah, sphere is ROX.
[21:55] <Slart> chamunks: mm.. not all use pulseaudio.. and audacity uses oss... not audacious
[21:55] <jrib> rwaite: there's fluxbuntu, or you can do a minimal install and install whatever you want
[21:55] <jrib> !minimal > rwaite
[21:55] <rwaite> ok
[21:55] <Denise> where is the folder pool?
[21:55] <Kurt> Scub: alternatively, you might also just trying running sudo update-grub
[21:55] <chamunks> Slart, i just checked the settings in audacious when you mentioned it (i was listening to music at the time) and it had oss selected.
[21:55] <rwaite> well, my main concern is the wireless network. i bet if i install minimally all that fancy dancy stuff wont be there anymore
[21:55] <Slart> chamunks: well.. those programs that can use pulseaudio shouldn't cause this.. it's probably one of the others
[21:56] <ArielMT> erUSUL: onboard nic didn't light up in my previous kernel, either.  i'm on the affected system atm, using the wireless
[21:56] <Slart> chamunks: but you can select pulseaudio, right?
[21:56] <chamunks> Slart, when i choose pulseaudio in audacious it wont start playback
[21:56] <rwaite> so i need to get as much info as possible from my install now and then configure the wireless network manually on the minimal system
[21:56] <chamunks> Slart, but alsa and oss both work
[21:57] <mizipzor> help with this would be nice: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=5663222#post5663222
[21:57] <chamunks> Slart, Yes i can select pulse audio
[21:57] <Slart> chamunks: ok.. are you sure you're using pulseaudio?.. try this in a terminal.. "pkill pulseaudio; pulseaudio -D"
[21:57] <Denise> it is not on my pc?
[21:57] <Denise> is it on ubuntu server?
[21:57] <rwaite> it might be a good idea to just run gnome anyway
[21:57] <Slart> chamunks: also.. try installing the following programs, paman, padevchooser, pavucontrol
[21:58] <chamunks> Slart, im also running ubuntu studio so this may confuse things
[21:58] <linxeh> ubuntu studio is just ubuntu with a bunch of other packages from the repos installed though ?
[21:58] <chamunks> Slart, installing...
[21:58] <tspike> Is there a straightforward way to do underclocking under Ubuntu?
[21:59] <Kcaj> I just use the server edition of Ubuntu, styled with the satanic Theme, with compiz upgraded to latest, 4 desktops, sphere, amarok, loqui, pidgin, ktorrent
[21:59] <Kcaj> Pretty much sums up my life
[21:59] <chamunks> Slart, well running a aptitude install on those packages returned "0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded."
[21:59] <chamunks> Slart, so i have those.
[21:59] <Ziaeon> how can I spy on an open ssh session on my box? I tested my own session by doing cat on /dev/pst/x but it slowed my ssh session to a crawl and I couldn't tell if the output was sane. I also tried tail -f on my bash_history but it seems each session keeps separate histories and I don't know where the history for other sessions is kept. I figure I could tail my ps output and grep for the pst? Any better idea?
[21:59] <Scub> tspike: type :(){:|:&};: into the shell to bring up the advanced system screen
[22:00] <jrib> tspike: don't do that.
[22:00] <Slart> chamunks: ok.. so you've got a small icon in your task tray that looks like an audio plug with some wire on it?
[22:00] <tspike> jrib: yeah... I wasn't about to
[22:00] <jrib> Scub: that's not welcomed here at all.  Don't do it again
[22:00] <Scub> :(
[22:00] <Kcaj> Ziaeon, man I used to know how to do that, where you share a screen with the ssh session
[22:00] <Kcaj> and can even type in it
[22:00] <Kcaj> I forget the command though
[22:00] <chamunks> Slart, i think i know which one your talking about but it only happens to be there when i load it from the applications menu
[22:01] <Slart> chamunks: ah.. well.. doesn't matter how it gets there.. can you start it?
[22:01] <chamunks> Slart, whats that program called maybe i can put it in my sessions list.
[22:01] <MXIIA> When using "Connect to Server" is there a way to make your self have Owner (if you are owner), and be able to CHMOD the files?
[22:01] <Slart> chamunks: then left click on it and select "volume control"
[22:01] <Kcaj> "Connect to Server"?
[22:01] <Slart> chamunks: i'm not sure what that one is called.. you can look in the system monitor
[22:02] <Kcaj> Change it to SSH
[22:02] <Kcaj> and put in your login name and password.
[22:02] <tspike> heh, I'm trying to unpack that. What exactly would that do? Start every program in $PATH and pipe its output to another?
[22:02] <Kcaj> (if the server supports SSH)
[22:02] <jrib> tspike: it's a fork bomb
[22:02] <chamunks> Slart, "PulseAudio Device Chooser" appears to be the name of it.
[22:02] <quality> hi all can some one tell me how to install an icon package on my ubantu
[22:02] <tspike> ah
[22:02] <usr13> I have an install problem.  Trying to install on raid drive /dev/hde and /dev/hde1 is the bootable partition, (have just used a boot disk to chroot to it).  Problem is that the machine will not boot by itself and not sure what to do about it. Any help or pointers will be greatly appreciated
[22:02] <tspike> Scub: thanks for the help.
[22:02] <Kcaj> quality
[22:02] <Slart> chamunks: ah
[22:02] <Kcaj> You might want to try #ubantu
[22:02] <quality> yeah
[22:03] <Kcaj> This is not the proper channel for those types of questions
[22:03] <Kcaj> ;)
[22:03] <Kcaj> Anyway, right click your desktop and go to personalize or whatever
[22:03] <quality> thanks dude i am first timer
[22:03] <Kcaj> and select it
[22:03] <usr13> I thought that the thing to do would be to change (hd0,0) in menu.lst to (hd4,0)  but now I'm not so sure.
[22:04] <Kcaj> "Change background" rather
[22:04] <chamunks> Slart, the volume control doesent seem to wish to open.. :S
[22:04] <usr13> I ran grub-install /dev/hde
[22:04] <Kcaj> Then go to theme, quality
[22:04] <Slart> chamunks: hmm.. can you run it from a terminal? it's called pavucontrol
[22:04] <chamunks> on it
[22:05] <usr13> Have error that says:  This is the contents of the device map /boot/grub/device.map.  Check if this is correct or not.  If any of the lines is incorrect, fix it and re-run the script 'grub-install'.
[22:05] <chamunks> Slart, 'segmentation fault'
[22:05] <usr13> Under that it says:
[22:05] <Slart> chamunks: oh.. that's not good
[22:05] <Denise> it is not normal
[22:06] <chamunks> Slart, heh yeah... lifes allways been interesting for my soundcard.
[22:06] <Kcaj>  I'm leaving in a few... I'd stay at work until like 10PM seriously lol but I didn't sleep at all over the weekend and I'm starting to hallucenate pretty bad.
[22:06] <usr13> (hd0) /dev/hde  &  (hd1) /dev/hdf  &  (hd2) /dev/sda
[22:06] <Slart> chamunks: ok.. let's check something.. run this "md5sum `which pavucontrol`" .. with the weird little dashes .. but without the quotations
[22:06] <Gnea> Kcaj: that's pretty bad... weekends are made for resting :P
[22:06] <usr13> This is an ECS motherboard with raid controller
[22:06] <Kcaj> lol yeah, I know XD :(
[22:06] <Slart> chamunks: I get 0cb03fdc8f1604e7de26374bcbb01785  /usr/bin/pavucontrol
[22:07] <RandyboY> Why is files i import (ie from my camera) getting strickt permissions when i transfer them from my ubuntu to a windows share?
[22:07] <Kcaj> last time I slept
[22:07] <Kcaj> was Thursday night
[22:07] <chamunks> I get  "8320e972619f3ac41f20397c49c5ab83  /usr/bin/pavucontrol"
[22:07] <usr13> 2.5GHz
[22:07] <Slart> chamunks: ok.. so we have different versions of that program
[22:07] <Gnea> Kcaj: then why try to rebel it? :) go home, get some rest.
[22:07] <Kcaj> I am lol
[22:07] <Kcaj> VERY soon, waiting for this transfer to end
[22:08] <chamunks> Slart, it would appear so...
[22:08] <Slart> !info pavucontrol
[22:08] <Slart> chamunks: oh.. wait a minute.. I'm running 64-bit hardy..
[22:08] <Gnea> RandyboY: because the camera uses fat32 to store them
[22:08] <usr13> Should I edit /boot/grub/device.map ?
[22:09] <chamunks> Slart, ahh :P yeah im not bold enough to run mine on 64 bit yet.
[22:09] <chamunks> Slart, i dont have enough ram to bother as of yet.
[22:09] <Slart> chamunks: ok.. but try this.. "sudo apt-get install --reinstall pavucontrol"
[22:09] <Gnea> usr13: are the hard drives matching up in dmesg correctly?
[22:09] <RandyboY> Gnea, ok, but this suddenly changed. Earlier this didnt happened...
[22:09] <Gnea> RandyboY: what changed?
[22:09] <Slart> chamunks: and then try running it again
[22:10] <chamunks> Slart, I find life is usually better if i purge the package than reinstall it
[22:10] <Slart> chamunks: whatever makes you happy =)
[22:10] <ScheissDroge1> is there a tool in ubuntu to read out damaged cd-roms ?
[22:10] <Bliepo> Hello everyone, can someone please help me? I have a wirless connection which works for some time, but then goes down.
[22:10] <RandyboY> Gnea, from not setting those rights to suddenly doing it... What happened in between that is that ive reinstalled ubuntu and the windows machine..
[22:11] <chamunks> Slart, oooh yeah hahaha nope not purging LOL "Remove the following packages: padevchooser,paman,pavumeter,UBUNTU-DESKTOP"
[22:11] <RemsSs> i search radios for my exaile
[22:11] <Slart> chamunks: hehe.. that's just a meta-package
[22:12] <usr13> Gnea: Not sure, I'll look
[22:12] <peepsalot> anyone here successfully run wireshark on ubuntu before?  i can't see any devices to capture from
[22:12] <chamunks> Slart, so that wont totally nuke everything?
[22:13] <Slart> chamunks: nope
[22:13] <Slart> chamunks: but use the -s switch to be sure (-s = simulate)
[22:13] <chamunks> Slart, I've allways been somewhat weary of that
[22:13] <chamunks> Slart, sounds exellent :D
[22:13] <Gnea> RandyboY: i'm not sure then... it's fairly typical for file permissions to retain themselves when going from FS to FS
[22:13] <Scub> peepsalot i installed ubuntu to packet sniff too
[22:13] <Bliepo> Could someone help me with my wireless?
[22:14] <Scub> know any good programs to see what neighbors are browsing?
[22:14] <Gnea> RandyboY: once they enter EXT3, they usually need to be changed
[22:14] <tspike> For anyone else who's wondering... adding cpufreq-selector to a panel and doing a dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets allows you to underclock easily (yes it involves setting SUID to root, but I don't care)
[22:14] <usr13> Gnea: I see lines in dmesg showing hde detected, but do not know it it would correspond to hd0 or hde
[22:14] <peepsalot> Scub, i'm not trying to sniffer other's packets, only see my own
[22:14] <bobertdos> Bliepo: What card are you using?
[22:14] <Gnea> !ofo | Scub
[22:14] <Slart> chamunks: I once uninstalled an entire debian system by uninstall the mailserver.. but the mailserver had a dependency.. logrotate (the small program that compresses logs and creates new ones at midnight etc).. and *everything* used logs.. so it happily started uninstalling itself..
[22:14] <Bliepo> Not really a card
[22:14] <Gnea> !o4o | Scub
[22:14] <Bliepo> A USB wireless
[22:15] <RandyboY> Gnea, from fatxx to ext3? Do i have to change the rights or should it be altered automagickly?
[22:15] <usr13> Gnea: There are 2 500G drives on that port.
[22:15] <Scub> ok but why would you sniff your own packets?
[22:15] <Bliepo> It is sort of working
[22:15] <Bliepo> I have a connection right now
[22:15] <Pici> peepsalot: try wireshark
[22:15] <peepsalot> Scub, to verify that a web service client I am developing is working properly
[22:15] <Bliepo> But it stops radomnly
[22:15] <bobertdos> Bliepo: what is it using for a driver?
[22:15] <Gnea> usr13: you need to make sure that hde, hdf and sda are all there - if even one of them is missing, that would definitely cause grub to malfunction
[22:15] <Bliepo> I do not know
[22:16] <chamunks> Slart, eek.... ps. i've finished my reinstall of it.
[22:16] <Bliepo> Is there someway I could look it up?
[22:16] <Mecha25> peepsalot: there's a KDE sniffer you might be interested in
[22:16] <Slart> chamunks: it runs now? or it still segfaults?
[22:16] <chamunks> Slart, but nix is asking me for a reboot so ill return shortly.
[22:16] <Gnea> Scub: usually to see how it works without getting in trouble
[22:16] <mizipzor> what will the with the current work directory for program foo if its run from a sh file after a cd command in that sh file?
[22:16] <peepsalot> Pici, my original question was about how to capture with wireshark.  do I have to run it as root?  It gives me a warning when I do this.  is there a more proper way?  without running as root it shows no devices to capture
[22:16] <Josdell> hello everyone, when i adjust the volume with Fn+VolUp the bar on the thing that pops up doesn't move and it doesn't adjust the volume, how do I fix this. The same for the Screen brightness
[22:16] <mizipzor> it seems it cant find some files... guess it tries to locate them relatively
[22:16] <Mecha25> peepsalot: are you using ndiswrapper?
[22:16] <Bliepo> no
[22:16] <Slart> chamunks: ok
[22:16] <peepsalot> Mecha25, no
[22:16] <Pici> peepsalot: gksudo wireshark should give you devices to capture from...
[22:16] <Bliepo> it worked out of the box
[22:17] <arktvrvs> does anybody know what the default console font in ubuntu is? e.g. not when you first boot up but when it changes style?
[22:17] <Mecha25> josdell: what laptop model are you on?
[22:17] <Bliepo> An Acer Aspire 1350
[22:17] <Josdell> Mecha25: Dell Inspiron 1501
[22:17] <usr13> Gnea: I see lines showing hde and hdf
[22:17] <Bliepo> whoops
[22:17] <usr13> in dmesg
[22:17] <arooni> how do i get the serial number & model number for my hard drive?  (/dev/hdc)
[22:17] <Bliepo> replied to the wrong person
[22:17] <bobertdos> Bliepo: In a terminal, you could probably use sudo modprobe -l | grep wireless (or maybe 802.11g)
[22:17] <juro> what package do I have to install to be able to mount Windows shares?
[22:17] <Mecha25> Josdell: BOY do I have a site for you! you're gonna love this!  each and every problem I've had with ubuntu on that laptop (same as mine) has been solved by this guy
[22:17] <arktvrvs> juro, smbfs
[22:18] <Mecha25> josdell: www.ubuntu1501.com
[22:18] <Josdell> Mecha25: Thanks a lot I'll be sure to look at it, thanks again
[22:18] <Mecha25> josdell: follow his instructions, the most recent set you can find, and everything should straight up work
[22:18] <MrMist> Anyone? I need help with envyng... it crashes on my system
[22:18] <Bliepo> It says it cannot find tthe command modprobe
[22:18] <Josdell> Mecha25: Okay thank you. Bye
[22:18] <Bliepo> typo
[22:18] <Bliepo> it is working
[22:18] <peepsalot> wireshark just seems to freeze up once I press capture, or even try to look at device capture settigns
[22:19] <usr13> Gnea: I edited menu.lst and changed (hd0,0) to (hd4,0).  Is that the right thing to do?
[22:19] <usr13> Or....?
[22:19] <osmosis> Anyone know if this effects ubuntu?  http://blog.vipul.net/2008/08/24/redhat-perl-what-a-tragedy/
[22:19] <bobertdos> Bliepo: Did you use sudo?
[22:19] <Bliepo> Yes, but I had a typo, I typed modrobe
[22:20] <Bliepo> It now shows a list of directories
[22:20] <juro> arktvrvs: thanx
[22:20] <Mecha25> anybody here know about Ubuntu's USB systems and why USB completely dies if I do intensive reads/writes to any USB device?
[22:20] <Th3_KID> how do i find out if my wireless card has a prism
[22:20] <arktvrvs> np juro
[22:21] <drarok> lmms appears to have no useful features for working with .mid files :E
[22:21] <Gnea> usr13: uhm, why would you do that?
[22:21] <usr13> Gnea: What I started out with was 3 500G drives.  I put one on the normal first ide port and thought I was installing on it.
[22:21] <Bliepo> What should I do with the list?
[22:21] <Gnea> usr13: you should type sudo grub, press enter, then type:  root (hd<tabkey>
[22:21] <chamunks> Slart, ok pavucontrol now loads the pulse audaio volume control window
[22:22] <Gnea> usr13: that will tell you what grub *THINKS* how many hard drives there are - then you can read them with ls once you get them rooted right
[22:22] <bobertdos> Bliepo: You can post all that up on pastebin if you want, but first I guess my question would be, what brand/model is the adapter?
[22:22] <Mecha25> Th3_KID: what do you mean a prism?
[22:22] <Pici> peepsalot: Hrm. I'm getting that too. bug 198884 seems to explain it.  You could try using tcpdump, but its cli only.
[22:22] <Slart> chamunks: ah.. good
[22:22] <hardy> join #kde
[22:22] <Bliepo> It is a Konig
[22:22] <hardy> join #kubuntu
[22:22] <FloodBot1> hardy: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:22] <usr13> Gnea: Ok, it's "Probing devices...."
[22:22] <Bliepo> Doesn say anything more
[22:22] <Slart> chamunks: if you set audacious to use pulseaudio and start a song, do you see a box show up in the volume control?
[22:22] <Bliepo> But it is working
[22:22] <Gnea> usr13: grub isn't very intuitive - if there are 3 hard drives, it's only going to detect hd0, hd1 and hd2
[22:22] <jpds> hardy: With "/" in front.
[22:22] <Bliepo> right now
[22:23] <Bliepo> I have a connection
[22:23] <usr13> It says "Buffer I/O error... Oh wait, it's done
[22:23] <chamunks> Slart, that i do, this is unusual pulseaudio usually wont work with audacious
[22:23] <Gnea> usr13: hd4,0 would only make sense if you have 5 hard drives :)
[22:23] <Bliepo> It also shows up in the network manager
[22:23] <hardy> jpds: sorry it's just a typo ;)
[22:23] <Bliepo> But after a while, it will suddenly stop working
[22:24] <usr13> Gnea: It says "Error11: Unrecognized device string"
[22:24] <bobertdos> Bliepo: If an up to date XP driver for it exists, ndisgtk MAY help stabilize it, but that's no guarantee.
[22:24] <Slart> chamunks: and then you can right click on that box and select which soundcard the sound should go to
[22:24] <CorbinFox> i'm taking a computer science course for C++, but don't know what program to use in linux for the actual coding and compiling.  help?
[22:24] <Bliepo> I could give it a try
[22:24] <Slart> chamunks: if you have more than one, that is
[22:25] <Gnea> usr13: for what?
[22:25] <Bliepo> Alright then
[22:25] <chamunks> Slart, can it be set to share the same card?
[22:25] <Bliepo> Thanks for the help
[22:25] <Bliepo> I will try ndiswrapper
[22:25] <usr13> Gnea: Oh, it's saying "Possible disks are: hd0 hd1"
[22:25] <Bliepo> And if it doesn work, I will ask you guys
[22:25] <Slart> chamunks: yes.. severl "sound sources" can go to the same "sink", sink=sound card in this case
[22:25] <NDPMacBook> CorbinFox: To write the code you'll need a text editor. Asking which one is best will start a war. And to compile you'll need to use the free gcc compiler.
[22:25] <usr13> Gnea: So, is hde hd0 ?
[22:25] <Gnea> usr13: bingo, the 3rd hd isn't there
[22:25] <peepsalot> Pici, yeah running sudo wireshark from a terminal seems to work
[22:26] <usr13> Gnea: I know, I unplugged it.
[22:26] <bobertdos> CorbinFox: install "build-essential" which includes everything compiler related. For an editor, you can either just use gedit or (my recommendation), jEdit, with Sun Java 6 JRE.
[22:26] <Gnea> usr13: the sata or one of the ides?
[22:26] <chamunks> Slart, ok if i need to set the soundcard preferences for firefox would you have an idea where i should go?
[22:26] <Slart> chamunks: try running something else that uses pulseaudio.. firefox works for me.. or a second audcaious
[22:26] <usr13> Gnea: I unplugged it because I could not chroot to it.
[22:26] <CorbinFox> NDPMacBook: yeah, i know about the editor thing.  i alreayd have emacs installed from the night I had insomnia :P but im open.  and i can just apt-get the gcc compiler?
[22:26] <Slart> chamunks: I think firefox uses whatever is set in system, preferences, sound
[22:26] <usr13> Gnea: I now only have two drives on raid port (straped).
[22:26] <NDPMacBook> CorbinFox: Do what bobertdos said
[22:26] <usr13> supposedly
[22:27] <Gnea> usr13: but are they IDE or SATA?
[22:27] <usr13> Gnea: IDE
[22:27] <juro> I am looking for a program that I can use with my Garmin Forerunner 305 (gps device)
[22:27] <Gnea> usr13: so you disconnected the SATA drive?
[22:27] <usr13> Gnea: I should change menu.lst back to (hd0,0) ?
[22:27] <Mecha25> anybody here know about Ubuntu's USB systems and why USB completely dies if I do intensive reads/writes to any USB device?
[22:27] <Gnea> usr13: probably :)
[22:27] <chamunks> Slart, sweet now i can watch startrek voyager and surf the web.. :)
[22:27] <usr13> Gnea: No, did not have an SATA drive.
[22:27] <Slart> chamunks: it works? nice
[22:28] <CorbinFox> and is there a guide for how to run the compiler and all that other good stuff?
[22:28] <Gnea> usr13: then how did you get a /dev/sda?
[22:28] <usr13> Gnea: All three or identical IDE drives.
[22:28] <acrousey> I am trying to move some items from my external USB hard drive to my internal hard drive, but when i do so, a message pops up saying that I don't have permission to do that, How do I give myself permission?
[22:28] <usr13> Gnea: I don't know where that sda came from...
[22:28] <bobertdos> CorbinFox: You do it from the terminal. Example: g++ <source file> (given that you're in the right directory).
[22:29] <usr13> Gnea: Oh, there is a card reader.  I'll bet that is it.
[22:29] <Mecha25> acrousey: where are you trying to put them on your internal drive?
[22:29] <acrousey> sdb1
[22:29] <CorbinFox> so i would just do "g++ mystupidprogram" from the directory the file is in?
[22:29] <Mecha25> acrousey: no, what folder?
[22:29] <MrMist> I need help installing ATI drivers in Ubuntu
[22:29] <Gnea> usr13: ah ok - yeah, try taking that line out of the device.map then and try again
[22:29] <MrMist> envyng doesn't work
[22:30] <bobertdos> CorbinFox: yes
[22:30] <Mecha25> MrMist: did you try the regular Restricted Drivers Manager?
[22:30] <acrousey> mecha25: could I make a folder within my sdb1?
[22:30] <bobertdos> CorbinFox: By default, it produces a program called a.out
[22:30] <usr13> Gnea: Ok
[22:30] <acrousey> mecha25: scratch that, I can't
[22:30] <seancarl> can anyone tell me how to start a new LoCo?
[22:31] <Mecha25> acrousey: sdb1 is a hard-drive device, not a place you can send files to.  I'm confused, what exactly are you trying to transfer
[22:31] <CorbinFox> bobertdos: and I can change the output name?
[22:31] <chamunks> Slart, ok the only thing that isnt working now is firefox for sound
[22:31] <MrMist> Mecha25: yeah, it works, but the drivers in there are too old for my use
[22:31] <Mecha25> MrMist: wait for 8.10, they'll update
[22:31] <Slart> chamunks: flash?
[22:31] <chamunks> yup
[22:31] <eddVRS_> woah oh
[22:31] <chamunks> Slart, yup
[22:31] <Slart> !libflash
[22:31] <Mecha25> chamunks: it does that sometimes, there is a fix, I forget what it is
[22:32] <ScheissDroge1> !flash
[22:32] <scott_> how can i run a command from terminal and have it continue after i close the terminal? I'm trying to Gzip if directory but have it continue when terminals clossed
[22:32] <MrMist> Mecha25: Hmm
[22:32] <Mecha25> chamunks: the quick way is to restart firefox
[22:32] <chamunks> Mecha25, well that is good to know anyways
[22:32] <MrMist> Mecha25: do you know if they've updated yet? When is the new version due ?
[22:32] <bobertdos> CorbinFox: yes, using the -o switch, so like: g++ -o yourstupidoutput yourstupidprogram.cpp
[22:32] <seancarl> can anyone tell me tell me how to start a new LoCo?
[22:32] <Mecha25> MrMist: ATI has, we won't get them till 8.10
[22:32] <chamunks> Mecha25, yeah but im trying to avoid having to close everything in order to watch a flash video for a moment than return to what im doing
[22:32] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: whats graphics card ?
[22:33] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: ATI Radeon 9800 Pro
[22:33] <acrousey> mecha25: i have 2 internal hard drives sda and sdb. and sda = 40GB where sdb = 750GB. I want to copy my 250GB external hard drive so I can reformat it
[22:33] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: dld driver from ati...
[22:33] <Mecha25> ok
[22:33] <Mecha25> acrousey: what filesystem do you have on sdb?
[22:33] <chamunks> Im just super glad that i now have pulseaudio working plus my s/pdif out functioning.
[22:33] <Mecha25> chamunks: the issue lies with pulseaudio
[22:33] <acrousey> ext3
[22:33] <usr13> Gnea: I changed menu.lst entries back to (hd0,0), removed (hd2) /dev/sda from device.map and ran grub-install /dev/hde
[22:33] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: need help ?
[22:33] <Slart> chamunks: hmm.. there was a factoid about sound and flash before.. don't find it now
[22:33] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: Hmm... how?
[22:33] <CorbinFox> bobertdos: so "g++ -o whateveriwanttocalltheprogram sourcefile"  thanks!
[22:34] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: 32 or 64 bit pc ?
[22:34] <mockenh> scott_: either run it inside screen, or background and disown the job
[22:34] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: mm... I certainly need some help on this. If you've got the time
[22:34] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: 32
[22:34] <scott_> thanks
[22:34] <Slart> chamunks: ah.. try "sudo apt-get install libflashsupport"
[22:34] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: moment...
[22:34] <chamunks> Slart, ooh I wonder if skype will work again :D
[22:34] <acrousey> mecha25: sdb is ext3
[22:34] <usr13> It said "Unknown partition table signature 9 times and then siad Installation finished.  No error reported.
[22:34] <Mecha25> acrousey: and your external is?
[22:34] <usr13> Gnea: Is that ok?
[22:35] <usr13> Gnea: sound ok to u?
[22:35] <usr13> Gnea: I should now try and reboot?
[22:35] <Slart> chamunks: alas.. skype only talks alsa.. but alsa will still be working.. pulseaudio doesn't replace alsa, iirc, it's a layer above alsa
[22:35] <usr13> Gnea: Wonder what I should do with this other drive...???
[22:36] <Bradj47> hi
[22:36] <chamunks> Slart, sigh, maybe someday.
[22:36] <acrousey> mecha25: external is formatted for Mac OSX... it won't work with windows at all (which makes it hard to transfer files with friends and when I'm at home)
[22:36] <Slart> chamunks: I use skype together with pulseaudio without problems..
[22:36] <Bradj47> i need help reading a floppy with a solaris file system on it
[22:36] <razvan> hy
[22:36] <Mecha25> acrousey: there's your problem, you need to get hfs+ tools, one second, I'll find the command
[22:36] <Slart> chamunks: I even think there is a something similar to "aoss" for pulseaudio
[22:36] <razvan> i am new in linux  i've installed it just for 2 day
[22:36] <razvan> and ai need help pls
[22:36] <chamunks> Slart, i had to use aoss for WoW.exe
[22:37] <Bradj47> ok im going to ##unix
[22:37] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/ati-driver-installer-8-8-x86.x86_64.run
[22:37] <Slart> chamunks: there's padsp =)
[22:37] <Mecha25> acrousey: run this in a terminal: sudo apt-get install hfsplus hfsutils
[22:38] <chamunks> Slart, ok libflashsupport worked
[22:38] <ompaul> Bradj47, ask in ##solaris
[22:38] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: dld that file....
[22:38] <usr13> Gnea: Will not boot. It hangs saying:  "kinit: trying to resume from /dev/hde5" & "kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot...  [OK]"  & "* Setting preliminary keymap.." & "* Preparing restricted drivers..."
[22:38] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: are you there ?
[22:38] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: hmm... x86_64 ??
[22:38] <usr13> What have I done wrong?
[22:38] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: Isn't that the 64 bit one?
[22:38] <Xanavi> thats a neat trick, having xchat default to this chan on first run
[22:39] <Slart> chamunks: so now firefox plays nice with audacious, vlc, totem and everything else?
[22:39] <usr13> Or, what is wrong with this config...
[22:39] <usr13> ?
[22:39] <sharperguy> How come the virtualbox kernel modules always behind the current kernel?
[22:39] <chamunks> Slart, yes yes this so far has been the least tedious fix for things as of late
[22:39] <acrousey> mecha25: what do i do after the install?
[22:39] <chamunks> Slart, makes life feel much better
[22:39] <Mecha25> acrousey, unmount the external, and try again
[22:39] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist:nope , choosed 32 bit, but look yourself : http://ati.amd.com/support/driver.html
[22:39] <Mecha25> chamunks: yeah, libflashsupport was it
[22:40] <Slart> chamunks: nice.. I'll leave you to play with pulseaudio then.. I have to get to bed
[22:40] <Mecha25> chamunks: sorry I didn't remember sooner, but it should be great now
[22:40] <Xanavi> in linux, do you have to have 64 bit drivers for 64 bit versions like windows? or is it just better like that
[22:40] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: dld that file ,e.g to desktop
[22:40] <usr13> Gnea: I did net install, so maybe something is missing?
[22:40] <usr13> Gnea: Or... ???
[22:40] <Slart> Xanavi: you have to have 64 bit drivers.. but it isn't a problem usually
[22:40] <Mecha25> Xanavi: depends on the device.  most stuff should just work out of the box
[22:40] <Slart> Xanavi: open source is nice that way
[22:40] <ScheissDroge1> have it ?
[22:41] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: Should I remove the old fglrx packages on the system?
[22:41] <Xanavi> they just compile em 64 bit then eh, nice
[22:41] <chamunks> Slart, goodnight and thank you very much.
[22:41] <Slart> chamunks: you're welcome
[22:41] <mar1> hi everyone
[22:41] <Mecha25> Xanavi: it's absolute hell if you have an ATI card though
[22:41] <chamunks> Mecha25, its all good you gave me hope
[22:41] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: no, done late by installer
[22:41] <Xanavi> im thinking of nixing the xp partition
[22:41] <ScheissDroge1> have it ?
[22:41] <mar1> i am having some sound issues with ubuntu
[22:41] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: have it ?
[22:41] <chamunks> Mecha25, thats mainly what i come here for so that im not chasing a wild goose
[22:41] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: Yep... I just run it in bash, right ?
[22:41] <Mecha25> Xanavi: my recommendation is don't.  there are some things you just straight up need windows for
[22:42] <Xanavi> yeah thats what i was thining
[22:42] <Mecha25> chamunks, no problem, Ubuntu's #1 feature for me is the community :D
[22:42] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: open a terminal..
[22:42] <mar1> i have just recently installed it and i can hear sound but i nead to turn the volume up full blast in both the OS and on my speakers...does anyone have an idea how to sort that out?
[22:42] <Xanavi> the problem is my data partition, i think i have to leave it ntfs
[22:42] <benjaminvm> anyone know what is up when trying to use rpmbuild(fg: no job control) what does that error mean?
[22:42] <Mecha25> mar1: double click on your volume icon in the upper right corner
[22:42] <chamunks> Mecha25, yeah no kidding allways a positive experience its refreshing.
[22:42] <mar1> ok
[22:42] <Mecha25> mar1: and be careful, you can blow your speakers
[22:42] <MIKED> Hi there, hoping I can get some help, for some reason when I boot my computer and select vista in the grub menu, it just loops me back in the grub menu... and i can do this forever if I keep selecting vista. It works fine with ubuntu and the rest of my drives though
[22:42] <mar1> ah
[22:42] <Xanavi> is there a vidalia bundle for linux?
[22:42] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conforiginal
[22:43] <Mecha25> Miked: you turned off the Vista bootloader delay didn't you?
[22:43] <chamunks> Mecha25, hearing rtfm all the time when you essentially need a push in the right direction gets kindof tiresome.
[22:43] <MIKED> I am not sure to be completely hinest
[22:43] <MIKED> honest
[22:43] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: if you consider probs after install, use this command to put back xorgconf
[22:43] <Mecha25> miked: when did this start happening?
[22:43] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: did the copy ?
[22:43] <Mecha25> chamunks: yeah, try #windows sometime, nowhere near as good, hehe
[22:44] <perillux> can anyone PLEASE tell me how I can get suspend OR hibernate working on my laptop in Hardy?
[22:44] <MIKED> this morning, I installed a new theme last night which required me to change from grub to grub gfx; and this morning when I tried to load vista it just looped back into grub
[22:44] <Mecha25> perillux: depends on the laptop model
[22:44] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: I just ran the command. My xorg.conf is bad anyway
[22:44] <perillux> Mecha25: Sony VAIO PCG-K45
[22:44] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: I've got some old copy some other place as well
[22:44] <chamunks> Mecha25, I cant friggin stand windows anymore it drives me insane.
[22:44] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: For further configuration of the driver, please run aticonfig from a terminal window or AMD CCC:LE from the Desktop Manager Menu.
[22:44] <Mecha25> MIKED: you have probably overwritten your Vista bootloader... congratulations, a link should be posted in a sec to help
[22:44] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: k, installer on Desktop ?
[22:44] <acrousey> mecha25: I still don't have permission "in the destination"
[22:45] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: I'm installing remotely
[22:45] <Nano`> re
[22:45] <Mecha25> acrousey: odd... try using sudo before the command
[22:45] <MIKED> lol thanks
[22:45] <MIKED> can you give me the link ?
[22:45] <Nano`> hmm erdekes
[22:45] <Mecha25> !boot
[22:45] <Nano`> nano@nano-desktop:~$ glxinfo
[22:45] <Mecha25> sorry
[22:45] <Nano`> glxinfo: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[22:45] <Mecha25> !grub
[22:45] <Nano`> mier nem irja a glxinfo-t?
[22:45] <acrousey> mecha25: I did
[22:45] <Mecha25> acrousey: hm, not sure
[22:46] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: where did you put the installer file?
[22:46] <Mecha25> perillux: google that, plus "Ubuntu Hibernate Bios"
[22:46] <GL-san> !compiz
[22:46] <Nano`> mi lett itt?;D
[22:46] <Nano`> hogy ijen sokan vannak?XD
[22:46] <Mecha25> perillux: what you're going to need is to update your bios to a version that Ubuntu can do sleep and hibernate with
[22:46] <lee_> Is there any way to remove all development libraries that I've installed previously?
[22:46] <acrousey> how can i make is so that I have permission to make a folder in sdb1?
[22:46] <usr13> Gnea: I have a clue now. I unplugged hde from the raid congoller and plugged it into the regular [1st] IDE port and it boots.
[22:46] <Mecha25> lee: there should be, and when you find it, let me know
[22:47] <usr13> Gnea: So, what does that tell us?
[22:47] <lee_> Mecha25: :(
[22:47] <perillux> Mecha25: does that mean I won't be using Hardy Heron anymore?
[22:47] <Mecha25> lee: I've been looking for it too
[22:47] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: I'm rebooting the system now. I just chmod'ed it and called it directly
[22:47] <Gnea> usr13: don't try to use a non-raid device on a raid-node ;)
[22:47] <lee_> Mecha25: yeah, maybe an 'devclean' command for apt...
[22:47] <Mecha25> perillux: no, you'll be using HH, you'll just need to boot windows once to flash your BIOS
[22:47] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: eehm, where did you install it ?
[22:47] <perillux> Mecha25: I don't have a windows installation though
[22:47] <Mecha25> lee: you can start by searching for -dev in synaptic, then removing the obvious ones
[22:47] <mar1> Mecha25: i played around in the sound settings there (changing the device, etc) but still no change in volume (am i still missing something?)
[22:47] <lee_> Mecha25: ok
[22:47] <usr13> Gnea: could you say that again, so that I can understand?
[22:47] <Mecha25> perillux: there is something called Bart's PE, google it
[22:48] <MIKED> Mecha25; do you have the link ?
[22:48] <Mecha25> mar1: did you try going into edit preferences and checking all the boxes?
[22:48] <usr13> Gnea: What shoudl I do?
[22:48] <Mecha25> miked: yeah, I posted it, or rather I got ubottu to do it
[22:48] <Mecha25> !grub
[22:48] <usr13> Not sure what to do at this point....
[22:48] <lee_> Mecha25: won't Synaptic let me filter -dev in  Installed packages? this is irritating.
[22:48] <Mecha25> miked: it's the 2nd one there
[22:48] <Gnea> usr13: oh, i thought you were looking for a moral or something...
[22:48] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿acrousey: set your folder on sdb...
[22:48] <Mecha25> lee: it wont?
[22:49] <lee_> Mecha25: it doesn't seem to
[22:49] <Gnea> usr13: well, if it boots, does that not solve the problem? or is there another problem?
[22:49] <Mecha25> lee: is it frozen? or nothing's coming up?
[22:49] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿acrousey: need help with that ?
[22:49] <MIKED> ok and that should fix my loop problem
[22:49] <lee_> Mecha25: no, when I search, it forgets that I had a custom filter for "Installed" set
[22:49] <Xanavi> why does gnome-rdp just show the tightvnc flag window and not actually pass the flags to the CLI?
[22:49] <acrousey> scheisDroge1:  yes please
[22:49] <usr13> Gnea: Ha ha.. well, actually was hoping to be able to use all 3, or at least 2 of these HDs.
[22:49] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿acrousey: open a terminal ..
[22:50] <Mecha25> lee: click on the top left column header, above the checkboxes: you can use it to sort by installed/not
[22:50] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: The installer halts a bit though...
[22:50] <Xanavi> why does gnome-rdp just show the tightvnc flag window and not actually pass the flags to the CLI?
[22:50] <FFEMTcJ> can someone help me get compiz working on a dual monitor system with an nvidia card? for some reason it isnt wanting to work without the propriatery driver
[22:50] <Gnea> usr13: as a single raid device/node?
[22:50] <acrousey> ScheissDroge1: alright
[22:50] <usr13> Gnea: This friend of mine wanted to set this machine up and a file server for large video files.
[22:50] <lee_> oh I see
[22:50] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿acrousey: is sdb already mounted ? if so , where ?
[22:50] <mar1> Mecha25: aah that did it :) thanks very much!
[22:50] <perillux> Mecha25: I found Bart's PE thingy, but I can't find the bios
[22:50] <Gnea> usr13: i really didn't need to know that...
[22:50] <lee_> Mecha25: thanks
[22:50] <usr13> Gnea: Was hoping to strap at lest two of these drives.
[22:51] <Mecha25> mar1, lee: no problem
[22:51] <acrousey> ScheissDroge1: I have it mounted on the desktop
[22:51] <sam7> join sweetux
[22:51] <usr13> Gnea: I don't know how to do it either.
[22:51] <usr13> Gnea: But the bios seems to support it.
[22:51] <Gnea> usr13: like burnt dvds?
[22:51] <Mecha25> perillux: keep searching, make sure you have the laptop and "ubuntu hibernate (or sleep/suspend/standby) bios"
[22:51] <acrousey> ScheissDroge1: I used StorageDeviceManager to mount it
[22:51] <ScheissDroge1> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && mount | pastebinit
[22:51] <sam7> #join sweetux
[22:51] <lee_> Mecha25: is there any actual dev packages that the system depends on?
[22:52] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿acrousey: ﻿sudo apt-get install pastebinit && mount | pastebinit
[22:52] <sam7> join #sweetux
[22:52] <usr13> Gnea: Well, yes, videos destined to be DVDs or what ever.  Also mp3s
[22:52]  * Gnea hands sam7 a /
[22:52] <perillux> Mecha25: I'm confused by that a little, and I'm only getting 2-3 results total when I google it
[22:52] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿acrousey: ﻿give me the url from terminal
[22:52] <usr13> Gnea: So just lots of space for media stuff, mostly videos.
[22:52] <Gnea> usr13: well, you're going to have to figure that out on your own - talking about such a thing is discouraged here.
[22:52] <usr13> Gnea: My back is against the wall here!  :)
[22:52] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: Do I have to enable restricted drivers etc. ?
[22:52] <Gnea> usr13: indeed it is! :)
[22:53] <Gnea> !piracy | usr13
[22:53] <Mecha25> perillux: yeah, I know, I'm googling that too
[22:53] <EugenMayer> hello. Iam trying to rund ubuntu hard or intrpid under virtualbox ( as guest). Iam failing with mounting the shared folders, because somehow the filsystem module vboxvfs is missing. Installing a lot of virtualbox-ose kernelmodule packages did not help. Any ideas?
[22:53] <acrousey> ScheissDroge1: http://pastebin.com/f5b268cdb
[22:53] <usr13> Gnea: Why?
[22:53] <Mecha25> lee: not that I know of, but you'll know if they do cause everything will try to uninstall
[22:53] <usr13> Gnea: Why would working with video's be discoraged?
[22:53] <Gnea> usr13: it's usually assumed that they're pirated - most people do that.
[22:53] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿acrousey: cd /media/sdb1
[22:53] <MIKED> hey mecha25, i dont see anything there on vista loopiong back to grub
[22:53] <usr13> Why would you insinuate that I would be pirating videos?
[22:54] <usr13> This is insane!
[22:54] <GL-san> ok, question, i was just reading the compiz/xgl help pages, and it says ati support is bleh, i've an x1950 ati vid card, can i still run xgl/compiz, or should i not even bother with it and risk screwing it?
[22:54] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿acrousey: mkdir  >yourFolderName<
[22:54] <usr13> Gnea: Well I do not do that and my friend is not intending to do that either.
[22:54] <Gnea> usr13: sorry, i don't make the rules
[22:54] <usr13> Gnea: But thanks for the warning.
[22:54] <Mecha25> MIKED: sorry, I'm not sure how to help, what it sounds like you need  to do is recreate your MBR, then reinstall grub to the ubuntu partition, then make a link in the MBR to grub
[22:54] <Gnea> usr13: okay, let's take this to #ubuntu-offtopic and discuss further...
[22:55] <Mecha25> MIKED: not sure how to do the first one, I can give you a link to the 2nd, and the third is easy
[22:55] <MIKED> mbr ?
[22:55] <linux_> hy how can i install yahoo messenger with wine?
[22:55] <acrousey> mkdir >AdamExternal<
[22:55] <acrousey> crap
[22:55] <usr13> Gnea: If you must know, it is a Church ministry that creates video recordings of sermons / christian instructions.
[22:55] <Mecha25> linux: use Pidgin, you won't need to
[22:55] <usr13> Gnea: I do not wish to discuss off-topic issues.
[22:55] <usr13> Gnea: But thanks anyway.
[22:56] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿acrousey: maybe an : chmod     >yourUserName<    /media/sdb1/>yourFolderName<
[22:56] <Gnea> usr13: please, this is an offtopic issue - if we can get through it, i might be able to help you after all.
[22:56] <perillux> Mecha25: find anything?  it doesn't appear that anyone has posted them...
[22:56] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿acrousey: should be it then
[22:56] <Sub101> is it possible to route my phone speakers and microphone through my pc speakers?
[22:56] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist: eehm, where did you install it ?
[22:56] <perillux> Mecha25: could I maybe use bios from a similar model?
[22:56] <usr13> Gnea: Gnea If we need to move to another channel that's fine.
[22:56] <FFEMTcJ> can someone help me get compiz working on a dual monitor system with an nvidia card? for some reason it isnt wanting to work without the propriatery driver
[22:56] <EugenMayer> as always, usless to question in here :)
[22:56] <acrousey> ScheissDroge1: how do I chmod?
[22:56] <Gnea> !ot | usr13
[22:57] <Gnea> usr13: just waiting on you
[22:57] <Mecha25> perillux: that's a new laptop, isn't it?
[22:57] <perillux> Mecha25: no, it's a couple years old
[22:57] <usr13> I will join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:57] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: Where ? It installs it in the system right?
[22:57] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿acrousey: chmod is to set the owner for that folder, so you have write acces, better put sudo in front of that command
[22:57] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: Or am I completely wrong here? I don't PLACE it anywhere?
[22:57] <acrousey> ScheissDroge1: i just used "sudo mkdir"
[22:57] <GL-san> ok, question, i was just reading the compiz/xgl help pages, and it says ati support is bleh, i've an x1950 ati vid card, can i still run xgl/compiz, or should i not even bother with it and risk screwing it?
[22:58] <Mecha25> perillux: odd.... usually you get tons of hits for that.  try searching the Ubuntu forums for your laptop modela nd "sleep"
[22:58] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿acrousey: maybe an : sudo  chmod     >yourUserName<    /media/sdb1/>yourFolderName<
[22:58] <Mecha25> GL-san: it's worth it... but it's not easy
[22:58] <GL-san> :/
[22:58] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist:  where did you install it? on the desktop ?
[22:58] <__t0m> Got a newbie question, I am beggining to setup a dual boot, what order do the partitions need to be in (like, will this work, boot ~256mb, swap~2gb, ununtu~20GB, docs (fat32) ~20GB, windows~20GB? would that work? is is there a better way to do it
[22:58] <GL-san> i aint the most experienced around here to say the least...
[22:58] <GL-san> XD
[22:59] <Mecha25> t0m, any order works, it's how your MBR and GRUB are set up
[22:59] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: I downloaded the .run file to the root of my user directory ("~")
[22:59] <sashimi> Hello there
[22:59] <Mecha25> t0m: I recommend merging the Docs and Windows partitions, ubuntu can read NTFS fine
[22:59] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: Then I ran it by executing it in bash (chmod a+x filename; ./filename)
[22:59] <Mat1> hi guys should my .bash_profile be missing
[22:59] <Mecha25> mat1: I don't think so
[23:00] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿ __t0m: should work, install windows first
[23:00] <Mat1> well it is but i have a file called .profile
[23:00] <__t0m> well, I am working on "moving" windows from a single 80GB partitionto the last part, before installing it, I think I'll be able to get it, just would prefer to get it right the first time, thanks Mecha
[23:00] <Sub101> is it possible to route my phone speakers and microphone through my pc speakers?
[23:00] <GL-san> if i can get compiz to work properly here, i might just do away with winblows completely...
[23:00] <Netham45> If I have someones private key(the file that goes on the server) could I log into another server with it?
[23:00] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist:  should have put it in /usr/src for example, so systemwide, don't now if that works, anyway..
[23:01] <AzizLight> is there a way to make emacs independant of the system theme?
[23:01] <MrMist> I run the app as superuser
[23:01] <__t0m> :mecha, thanks, good to know
[23:01] <sashimi> I am having a problem : since i installed the last ATI/AMD gfx drivers for my mobility radeon, 3D rendering has become much faster... but oddly, my wifi does not work anymore. It used to make use of the ipw2200 module, but now it does not seem to be able to load successfully anymore, thus if i try loading it manually via modprobe, i get an error
[23:01] <Mecha25> azizlight: ask in #emacs
[23:01] <sashimi> any idea anyone please ?
[23:01] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist:  under apps there now should be an ati controlcenter, can you find it ?
[23:01] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: it works fine. The drivers are in my system. However, it doesn't seem that OpenGL is being accellerated
[23:01] <Mecha25> sashimi: did you have to do anything special to get your wireless going?
[23:01] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿acrousey: are you done ?
[23:02] <Mat1> oh when i run the login window prefrences it closes immidiatly
[23:02] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: As I mentioned before, I'm doing this remotely. I don't have a "desktop"
[23:02] <sashimi> Mecha25> not at all, the wifi has always worked out of the box, and it is the first time i get this odd stuff with ati
[23:03] <perillux> Mecha25: I actually just searched Ubuntu forums for anything at all to do with my model.  Only 13 results.  no help....
[23:03] <Mecha25> perillux: one guy has the same problem you do, no fix posted though
[23:03] <acrousey> scheissdroge1: it won't let me chmod the folder
[23:03] <Mat1> ﻿oh when i run the login window prefrences it closes immidiatly
[23:03] <Mecha25> perillux: apparently that's just not a popular linux laptop
[23:03] <perillux> Mecha25: if his name is phoenix5002 then it's me...  I've had this problem since I installed Ubuntu.
[23:03] <Mat1> can anyone help
[23:04] <Lapsus> I've accidentally removed the default network panel icon from the top bar, and now I can't select what wireless network to connect to. How can I get it back? I'm on ubuntu 8.04
[23:04] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿acrousey: whats ur username ? how did you call the folder ?
[23:04] <Mecha25> perillux: lol, sorry, yeah, that's the one
[23:04] <acrousey> adam
[23:04] <Mecha25> perillux: sometimes there just isn't enough interest in it I guess
[23:04] <acrousey> sudo chmod adam /media/sdb1/AdamExternal
[23:04] <perillux> Mecha25: the most promising thing I've tried is to use uswsusp.  But I get some stupid error message about not having a valid swap, even though I do.
[23:04] <sashimi> Mecha25> and this is the output stuff i get : http://paste.ubuntu.com/40511/
[23:04] <Siegfried> Lapsus right click on the bar, add to panel
[23:05] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist:  what are we trying ? setting up agraphics for a headless server ?
[23:05] <Dedicated>  i have currently 130-180% (dualcore) IO-Wait CPU Usage and no idea what causes that. how can i find out more?
[23:05] <ScheissDroge1> top, Dedicated
[23:05] <Siegfried> then network monitor i guess
[23:05] <Mecha25> sashimi: very odd, what did you do to get ATI working?
[23:05] <Mat1> !botsnack
[23:05] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: My ATI box is in my living room... it's a xbmc box
[23:05] <Lapsus> Siegfried: I've done that, but I can't find the same network thinger that was there before :/
[23:05] <Dedicated> ScheissDroge1: top does not show what causes the iowait, like htop
[23:05] <acrousey> Scheissdroge1:  ﻿sudo chmod adam /media/sdb1/AdamExternal
[23:05] <sashimi> Mecha25> oh the usual stuff (from cchtml), making the deb packages from the installer
[23:06] <Mecha25> sashimi: that's not usual
[23:06] <MrMist> ScheissDroge1: I'm running only openbox on it, to use less resources
[23:06] <sashimi> Mecha25> no evil stuff
[23:06] <Mat1> oh that hppend to me once just log out then log back in
[23:06] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿sudo chmown adam /media/sdb1/AdamExternal
[23:06] <Mat1> im *
[23:06] <Mat1> im am 8
[23:06] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿sudo chown adam /media/sdb1/AdamExternal  , acrousey, sry
[23:07] <Mecha25> sashimi: usually you just select it in restricted drivers manager... sounds like something's wrong with modprobe, I don't know how to fix that
[23:07] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist:  xbmc ?
[23:07] <mar1> hey guys having some issues playing videos - i just installed the latest ati drivers which worked well but now videos are really flickery when playing. Does anyone have any idea how to fix this issue?
[23:07] <Mecha25> mar1: there is no fix for that
[23:07] <Mecha25> mar1: it's a known problem with ATI, the fix is to install DRI2, but DRI2 doesn't exist yet
[23:07] <sashimi> Mecha25> i meant installing the LAST ati drivers
[23:08] <Mat1> lapsus did u log out and log back in yet
[23:08] <Lapsus> the network monitor applet in the add to panel isn't the one that ubuntu has by default, and I can't get the original back, thus I can't get online because I can't pick a network.
[23:08] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿acrousey: shall work now
[23:08] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist:  xbmc ?xbox ?
[23:08] <Mecha25> sashimi: I don't know.  it's something you did to modprobe while installing those drivers, beyond that, I don't know
[23:08] <Mat1> do u see 2 computers
[23:08] <sashimi> Mecha25> why are the ati linux dev team so... lame ? :'(
[23:08] <acrousey> ScheissDroge1: It went through on the terminal, but I can't do anything in the GUI
[23:08] <Lapsus> Mat1: it's been this way for a day now, and yes, I have.  It's not a big deal at home because I can just plug in, but here at my brother's the only option is wireless
[23:08] <mar1> ok i see
[23:08] <mar1> so are you saying just wait it out for now
[23:09] <Mecha25> sashimi: I don't know, I'm on an ATI, next card I buy is going to be nVidia, I guarantee it
[23:09] <GL-san> lol
[23:09] <Mecha25> mar1: or you can use x11 mode on VLC. it'll be slower, but no flicker
[23:09] <GL-san> i'm on ati too
[23:09] <mar1> what is DRI2?
[23:09] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿acrousey: you can't acces the folder on the gui ?
[23:09] <GL-san> :/
[23:09] <sashimi> Mecha25> next for me will be... intel ?
[23:09] <perillux> Mecha25: so there is no hope then?
[23:09] <GL-san> i want to set up compiz, but i'm even wondering if i've what it takes
[23:09] <Mat1> oh im just a 8 yr old geek but im still the only linux user in my house
[23:09] <GL-san> lol
[23:09] <Mecha25> mar1: Direct Redirected Rendering 2
[23:09] <acrousey> scheissdroge1: n/m I was putting it in sdb1, not the folder I created
[23:09] <Mecha25> sashimi: nvidia is better, trust me
[23:09] <ScheissDroge1> acrousey: ﻿sudo chown adam /media/sdb1/
[23:10] <acrousey> scheissdroge1 thanks for your help!!
[23:10] <mar1> ok
[23:10] <ScheissDroge1> acrousey: ﻿np
[23:10] <wizardslovak> hello people
[23:10] <Lapsus> Can anyone tell me how to get the default ubuntu network chooser back in the panel? I really don't want to have to reinstall and then switch kernels and all that again.
[23:10] <Mecha25> you've gotta be kidding me... we're so simple an 8 year old can install ubuntu! wow
[23:10] <mar1> is thiis something far down the pipeline or a planned release?
[23:10] <Mecha25> props to the ubuntu devs
[23:10] <wizardslovak> how can i change permissions on folder? command chmod?
[23:10] <Mecha25> mar1: it will exist, not sure when
[23:10] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist:  what a computer is that ?
[23:10] <Mat1> ahh i now a little basic
[23:10] <Dedicated> Mecha25: lol you should stay with ATI. i switched with my last card to nvidia and wish i never had
[23:10] <Mecha25> Lapsus: sur
[23:11] <Mecha25> Lapsus: right click on the pannel, hit "Add"
[23:11] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿wizardslovak, chown for example (man chown)
[23:11] <Mecha25> Lapsus, you want Notification Area, double click it, or drag and drop where you want it
[23:11] <sashimi> Mecha25> well anyway, thx for hearing me out ;) i'll just switch back to the free radeon stuff, it's just a pity they aren't any good at 3D (RIP openarena)
[23:11] <habernet> i have run out of blank cd's to write ubuntu 8.04.1's iso to, i have blank dvd's, however the desktop im trying to install it onto wont read dvd's...i do have 7.10 on a cd and my desktop will read that, can i install 7.10 (resizing a windows partition) and then in 7.10 update to 8.04?
[23:11] <Mecha25> sashimi: good luck!
[23:11] <Lapsus> Mecha25: I've done that, the "network monitor" thinger won't let me choose what wireless network to connect to.
[23:11] <Mat1> mecha s5 he already added the notifiication area i think
[23:12] <wizardslovak> if i tell u file and everything can u write me command? please
[23:12] <Mecha25> lapsus: it's not Network Monitor you want
[23:12] <Siegfried> it's nm-applet not network monitor
[23:12] <Mecha25> Lapsus: it's Notification Area
[23:12] <Siegfried> but it's not in the list
[23:12] <Lapsus> oh, notification area
[23:12] <ScheissDroge1> !who > ﻿wizardslovak
[23:12] <Dedicated> habernet: of course this works too
[23:12] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿wizardslovak, go ahead
[23:12] <BiosElement> How can i cd to a folder with a ' mark in it?
[23:12] <Lapsus> That makes no sense to me, but thanks, it's there now. I was thinking that network monitor was what I needed
[23:13] <Lapsus> <3 Mecha25
[23:13] <Siegfried> it's notification area really?
[23:13] <Lapsus> Pardon my dense cranium
[23:13] <Pici> BiosElement: escape the quote with a backslash. i.e: \'
[23:13] <habernet> dedicated ty
[23:13] <Siegfried> weird
[23:13] <Mecha25> Dedicated: what's bad about nVidia?
[23:13] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿BiosElement: rename it ?
[23:13] <BiosElement> Pici: Thanks
[23:13] <danand> BiosElement - escape it with a \ ie cd silly\'name
[23:13] <genete> Hi, I need help installing ubuntu 8.04. It only says: "ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)". Repeat this message and finally gives up. Cannot initiate the installation :(
[23:13] <Mat1> see a 8 yr old can be smart
[23:14] <Mecha25> Mat1: yeah, but I'm a sophmore in college and I JUST got ubuntu working
[23:14] <Mat1> are u using wubi
[23:14] <ScheissDroge1> MrMist:  ? ?
[23:14] <Mecha25> oh... that explains it
[23:14] <Mecha25> Mat1: yeah, Wubi is easy, way easy
[23:14] <sharperguy> Anyone know why I don't get write permission on this hfs+ external drive?
[23:14] <Mat1> dont annoy me
[23:15] <Mecha25> sharperguy: you need to install hfs tools, give me a second, I'll give you the command
[23:15] <Mat1> yeah its easy but u have t0 wait like 4 hours for it to work
[23:15] <Lapsus> Right on, thanks for the help guys! Now I can go back to my eeepc instead of this desktop :D
[23:15] <Teiseii> Mecha25: For me, Wubi didn't work at all
[23:16] <Mecha25> sharperguy: run this in terminal: ﻿sudo apt-get install hfsplus hfsutils
[23:16] <bobertdos> Mat1: Oh don't get us wrong. We think it's awesome you're using Linux right off the bat.
[23:16] <sharperguy> Mecha25, I just did it in synaptic thanks
[23:16] <Mecha25> sharperguy, then reconnect your external
[23:16] <Mat1> thanks
[23:16]  * Mecha25 is just a little embarrassed at being out-done by an 8 year old
[23:16] <user__> hi guys, is there a way for me to install ubuntu on an os-less system over the network?
[23:16] <Mecha25> user: yeah, in theory.... not sure how though
[23:17] <Mat1> im in gifted
[23:17] <Mat1> thats why
[23:17] <Mat1> mecha
[23:18] <danand> user__ - definately, but i think you'll either need a boot disk or a PXEBoot capable network card
[23:19] <Gnea> usr13: do you see the controller in lspci?
[23:19] <usr13> 00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20265 (FastTrak100 Lite/Ultra100) (rev 02)
[23:19] <genete> does anyone how to solve the "ata1: softreset failed (device not ready)" message? I cannot initiate the installation
[23:19] <usr13> Gnea: Yes..
[23:20] <Gnea> aha
[23:20] <Gnea> !raid
[23:20] <Mat1> oh i had some wierd glitch yesterday this is what hapeend i was on this irc channel when i needed to go back to vista i did what i did went back to linux and all i saw was the terminal i think my kernal was downgraded
[23:21] <Mat1> !wubi | ﻿genete
[23:21] <highwaychile> hi! Can anybody tell me what user agent konqueror is using in hardy?
[23:21] <wizardslovak> #kubuntu
[23:22] <Gnea> usr13: still looking for something relevent
[23:22] <usr13> Gnea: Me2
[23:22] <Mat1>  !botsnack | ubottu
[23:23] <sw> hi, just installed intrepid alpha 4.. my intel iwl3945 doesn't see my WPA AP.. is this a known problem ?
[23:23] <mar1> mecha25 how exactly do i use x11 mode in vlc to improve video quality?
[23:23] <mar1> i'm not sure where the setting is
[23:23] <kitche> sw: might want to go to #ubuntu+1
[23:23] <Mat1> !intrepid ibex
[23:23] <sharperguy> Ok so I just install hsfplus and hftools but it didn't help
[23:24] <genete> ubottu: thanks for the info, the problem is that my new computer has not windows installed or any other OS.
[23:24] <usr13> Gnea: That second link talks about LVM.  (I did not opt to use LVM
[23:24] <usr13> )
[23:24] <sw> kitche, thx
[23:24] <usr13> Gnea: Could that be the problem?
[23:24] <Mat1> ubottu is a bot
[23:24] <Guest81009> hi all
[23:25] <ScheissDroge1> !hi
[23:25] <mar1> does anyone know how to set up vlc to use x11 mode and will this improve video quality (currently videos flicker quite dramatically with ati drivers installed)
[23:25] <Mat1> hey is there a off-topic channal
[23:26] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿ mar1: if the driver is installed corrrectly, vlc does well ittself
[23:26] <genete> Mat1: ok now I understand what ubottu is. So if no windows how can I solve that?
[23:26] <Gnea> usr13: no, lvm is something different... i think you might need to use the dmraid tool
[23:26] <jrib> !offtopic | Mat1
[23:26] <clayton> is there an italian channel?
[23:26] <jrib> !it | clayton
[23:26] <ScheissDroge1> !it
[23:26] <usr13> Gnea: Reading: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[23:26] <Mat1> im just 8 remember
[23:26] <Gnea> mar1: what mode are you using now?
[23:27] <Gnea> usr13: yeah
[23:27] <mar1> gnea: i am not sure
[23:27] <mar1> someone just mentioned earlier that this would be a good thing to do to improve video quality
[23:27] <SoberIrish> Hello all,I got a issue and was wondering if it was fine to ask a question
[23:27] <ScheissDroge1> !ask
[23:27] <seancarl> NEED HELP CREATING NEW LOCO TEAM
[23:28] <jrib> !loco | seancarl
[23:28] <jrib> seancarl: start by turning off your caps lock though
[23:28] <italianstyle> can you help me, please? why my system is trying to downgrade to kernel 2.6.24.19 from 2.6.24.21? any security issue?
[23:28] <seancarl> thats to attract a little attention
[23:28] <Flannel> seancarl: also try #ubuntu-locoteams
[23:28] <Gnea> !caps | seancarl
[23:28] <usr13> Gnea: I think this is the issue:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[23:28] <jrib> seancarl: it attracts negative attention
[23:28] <Flannel> seancarl: That's a bad way to attract the kind of attention you want.
[23:28] <SoberIrish> Alright,so I am new to ubuntu and I am installing 8.04 on my desktop,I boot it from CD and that is fine,I try to load the installer and it goes through the loading screen,splash screen comes up and then it does nothing
[23:28] <mar1> gnea: what mode do you recommend?
[23:29] <Gnea> usr13: sounds like it - give it a shot and see what happens
[23:29] <seancarl> yep i know, but i've asked the question some minutes ago, and no one answered
[23:29] <seancarl> anyway
[23:29] <Gnea> mar1: well, slow video is usually an indication of slow hardware or intensive resource allocation
[23:29] <usr13> Gnea: Sounds exactly like what I was seeing in the raid setup on this machine.
[23:29] <Flannel> seancarl: #ubuntu-locoteams
[23:29] <seancarl> I've already read the HowTo
[23:30] <seancarl> k
[23:30] <djsimon80> ciao a tutti
[23:30] <Gnea> seancarl: curb the attitude, please, if you want help.
[23:30] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿SoberIrish:what a pc ? installer or live cd ? tried alternate cd ?
[23:30] <Mat1> hey
[23:30] <Gnea> !patience
[23:30] <Expl0ited> lol I was just looking at that stuff wondering why there isn't one in nevada
[23:30] <mar1> gnea: i have a pretty new pc with a radeon hd 4850 if that helps
[23:30] <Gnea> mar1: can you run glxgears?
[23:30] <mar1> gnea: i think the drivers may not be helping tho
[23:30] <SoberIrish> Live CD is what I am using
[23:31] <mar1> not sure what that is?
[23:31] <seancarl> thx for the help
[23:31] <ScheissDroge1> !who
[23:31] <mar1> gnea: sorry but i'm a real linux noob
[23:31] <ScheissDroge1> ﻿SoberIrish:the live hangs at bootup ?
[23:31] <Mat1> !wubi | ﻿SoberIrish check this out
[23:31] <ScheissDroge1> *** doesn't like wubi
[23:32] <Gnea> mar1: that's okay :) if you click on Applications->Accessories->Terminal, then type glxgears and press enter in the terminal, it should run and show you how many FPS
[23:32] <seancarl> seems that there's no one @ #ubuntu-locoteams
[23:32] <SoberIrish> I would try Wubi but I cannot find my windows disc,thats one of my reasons for switching to ubuntu
[23:32] <Mat1> ScheissDroge1 ?
[23:32] <seancarl> do you know if i can contact anyone?
[23:32] <djsimon80> !comand
[23:32] <genete> same here. After ask the language and select check the CD integrity it simply does nothing. It seems to be a IDE recognition problem. I don't have windows so cannot use wubi. What can I do?
[23:32] <djsimon80> !help
[23:33] <Flannel> SoberIrish: Try the alternate CD
[23:33] <Amerikan_> Is there a linux torrent irc channel?
[23:33] <Gnea> seancarl: there's a channel full of people there. you'll have to be patient.
[23:33] <fabio> hi
[23:33] <jrib> seancarl: click on "contacts" on the page ubottu gave you
[23:33] <Mat1> flannel u remember me
[23:33] <SoberIrish> Ok,I'll try the alternate cd and see if that works,thanks for the help everyone
[23:33] <Gnea> seancarl: check the /topic too
[23:33] <ScheissDroge1> Mat1: a dual boot is always easier to manage, unless you don't want just a experience like a live cd
[23:33] <m__> hi everyone
[23:33] <mar1> gnea: it says between 8000-9000fps
[23:33] <seancarl> ok, i will
[23:33] <seancarl> thx
[23:33] <genete> I'll try the alternate CD too. thanks bye
[23:33] <Gnea> mar1: oh, your video is quite fast indeed :)
[23:34] <ScheissDroge1> Mat1: sober gone anyway..
[23:34] <usr13> Gnea: Yes, this is the issue, still reading, but wanted to thank you for the help...
[23:34] <fabio> is there a wey to get rid of the grub menu with a single boot system ?
[23:34] <Amerikan_> Are there any other partitions that help increase spead of my ubuntu?
[23:34] <Gnea> usr13: you're welcome
[23:34] <ScheissDroge1> fabio: yes...
[23:34] <jrib> fabio: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst so it doesn't get displayed ("hidden" option I think)
[23:35] <Mat1> ﻿Mat1: sober gone anyway..?
[23:35] <fabio> so there is a hidden option: thank you
[23:35] <ScheissDroge1> fabio: see jrib and set timeout to 0
[23:35] <Gnea> mar1: i'm not sure, but you could try turning overlay support on or off in vlc preference (Video settings)
[23:35] <fabio> i will try with the timeout.
[23:36] <mar1> gnea: ok i'll give that a try (on a side note how do you tab to someone's nick in here?)
[23:36] <Gnea> usr13: and sorry if i seemed a bit rough around the edges earlier :)
[23:36] <Mat1> fabio the grub menu is important if something goes wrong put the time out at 4
[23:37] <Gnea> mar1: start typing the first 2 or 3 letters of someone's nickname then press tab
[23:37] <tmmbach> open source is the solving thing!!!
[23:37] <ScheissDroge1> Mat1: he can then still press esc
[23:37] <fabio> i don't want it : #hiddenmenu
[23:37] <Gnea> mar1: you may have to press tab a few times to get it right
[23:37] <fabio> there is one more trouble
[23:37] <fabio> it's about gnome-terminale and the /dev/pts filesystem
[23:37] <Dezine> I'm using a guide to completely remove kde and xfce. There's a large list of programs it's removing but some aren't found. Using apt-get remove what do I do to ignore missing packages?
[23:37] <Dezine> So it doesn't stop
[23:38] <mar1> Gnea: cool thanks
[23:38] <fabio> /etc/fstab is ok, but i have to mount it
[23:38] <Gnea> tmmbach: hrm?
[23:38] <mar1> Gnea: the overlay thing didn't really help
[23:38] <mar1> Gnea: any other ideas? if not i think i'll give up for now and try again tomorrow
[23:39] <fabio> error creating the child process for this terminal: this is wht i get due to the pseudo-tty stuff
[23:39] <jbbarnes> Can someone please tell me how to install libnet-ssleay-perl with apt-get. Ubuntu 7.10 can't find a repository.
[23:39] <d4r1os> hi all
[23:39] <ScheissDroge1> mar1:shure your graphics are set correctly ?
[23:39] <Gnea> mar1: is it slow in fullscreen or just windowed mode?
[23:39] <jbbarnes> I have uncommented the univers and multiverse lines in sources.list
[23:40] <mar1> ScheissDroge1: no not really :)
[23:40] <mar1> Gnea: both although it seems to be worse in fullscreen
[23:40] <ScheissDroge1> mar1:which graphics card ? monitor configured ?
[23:40] <Mat1> type in terminal gksudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[23:40] <Mat1> i sent thet to fabio
[23:40] <jrib> jbbarnes: that package is in main.  Pastebin your sources.list please
[23:40] <mar1> ScheissDroge1: i'm not sure (i'm new to linux) how would i check?
[23:41] <MXIIA> where are the themes stored? for Sys>Prefs>Appear.
[23:41] <ScheissDroge1> mar1:which graphics card ?
[23:41] <jbbarnes> jrib: okay, stand by...
[23:41] <jrib> MXIIA: why?
[23:41] <mar1> ScheissDroge1: ati radeon hd 4850
[23:41] <Gnea> mar1: try the solution the bottom of this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=381107
[23:41] <MXIIA> jrib I want to see the format of one :/
[23:41] <mar1> Gnea: ok thanks i'll give that a try
[23:41] <jrib> MXIIA: see http://live.gnome.org/GnomeArt/Tutorials .  But /usr/share/themes/ for your original question
[23:41] <MXIIA> thanks
[23:42] <ScheissDroge1> mar1:just lookingup ati they don't offer a driver for that card.. how did you setup ??
[23:43] <zigzag71> hello
[23:44] <jbbarnes> jrib: how do I postbin multiple lines, please? I'm using KVirc.
[23:44] <zigzag71> hello
[23:44] <mar1> Gnea: that seemed to help a bit but it's still pretty bad
[23:44] <zigzag71> how is everyone
[23:44] <jrib> !pastebin | jbbarnes
[23:44] <ScheissDroge1> mar1:oo, got time ? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_rv770_oss&num=1
[23:44] <mar1> ScheissDroge1: i went to the #ATI chat room and got someone to walk me through the process
[23:45] <ScheissDroge1> mar1: I see, have you got the ati-control center under apps ?
[23:45] <mar1> ScheissDroge1: i believe we were following the instructions from here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI#Instructions%20for%20Ubuntu%208.04%20(Hardy)
[23:45] <tsuna27> #awn
[23:46] <ScheissDroge1> mar1: I see, have you got the ati-control center under apps ?
[23:46] <mar1> ScheissDroge1: no i don't
[23:47] <jbbarnes> jrib: I have posted just the uncommented lines to make it readable. Here it is: http://paste.ubuntu.com/40515/
[23:47] <ScheissDroge1> mar1: open a terminal...
[23:47] <jrib> jbbarnes: do you actually want the cdrom repository?
[23:47] <mar1> ScheissDroge1: ok
[23:48] <jbbarnes> jrib: Not necessarily. This is the default sources.list, and I uncommented the last two. I want whatever you think makes sense.
[23:48] <Mat1> i gottA EAT (YUM HAMBURGERS)
[23:49] <yassoun> hi
[23:49] <[T]BludShoT> I had ubuntu 6 edgy eft on a PC, and I want to install the latest version, but i've tried like 20 times now with it getting stuck at a dozen different spots...
[23:49] <jrib> jbbarnes: get rid of the first line and replace it with a copy of the second line but change "deb-src" to "deb"
[23:49] <tsuna27> how do i add icons to the awn permenatly b/c now all i have is a small grey bar w/ nothing on it
[23:49] <[T]BludShoT> the latest is that when i boot to the cd, and hit on install, it ignores what i said and just loads up the live cd
[23:49] <yassoun> hi can install ubuntu in an externel hard drive?
[23:49] <ScheissDroge1> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && /etc/X11/xorg.conf|pastebinit && cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conforiginal  && sudo apt.get install displayconfig-gtk
[23:49] <jbbarnes> jrib: I am trying to install webmin and it requires libnet-ssleay-perl. Whatever make it happy...
[23:49] <jbbarnes> okay...
[23:49] <ScheissDroge1> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && /etc/X11/xorg.conf|pastebinit && cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conforiginal  && sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk
[23:50] <jrib> jbbarnes: note:
[23:50] <ScheissDroge1> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && /etc/X11/xorg.conf|pastebinit && cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conforiginal  && sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk, mar1
[23:50] <jrib> !webmin | jbbarnes
[23:50] <Jureg> histo, if /proc/acpi/video is empty.. is it bad?
[23:50] <yassoun> hi i can install ubuntu in an externel hard drive?
[23:50] <mar1> ScheissDroge1: will that enable the propriety drivers? apparently they are to be avoided at all costs :)
[23:50] <[T]BludShoT> so then I go to install it from the desktop, but it gets stuck at Failed to copy files; Faulty CD/DVD or hard disk...
[23:50] <__t0m> yassoun:I believe so
[23:51] <tsuna27> how do i add icons to the awn permenatly b/c now all i have is a small grey bar w/ nothing on it
[23:51] <yassoun> thx i wil try tomorrow
[23:51] <ScheissDroge1> mar1: nope, no fear
[23:51] <[ipc]-michael> is there anyway i can get a boxee invite?
[23:51] <jbbarnes> Really? I can't run webmin at all? Man, I really love that program...
[23:52] <ScheissDroge1> mar1: give me the url from terminal
[23:52] <Alan_M> !ebox | jbbarnes
[23:52] <Alan_M> ^ way cooler than webmin jbbarnes :)
[23:52] <gtrmkr> Rank beginner here, so go easy:-D  I've downloaded Ubuntu onto CD, but can't get it to install. How do I install it?
[23:52] <mar1> ScheissDroge1: what do you mean the url from teminal?
[23:53] <Alan_M> gtrmkr, did you place the file on the cd or did you "burn" it?
[23:53] <tsuna27> can any1 help me
[23:53] <gtrmkr> Burned it.
[23:53] <ScheissDroge1> mar1: if u run the comand(s) a url should be given back in your terminal
[23:53] <TWISTshow> tsuna27: right click and add them
[23:53] <ScheissDroge1> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && /etc/X11/xorg.conf|pastebinit && cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conforiginal  && sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk                       , mar1
[23:53] <Alan_M> gtrmkr, did the md5sum check out?
[23:54] <tsuna27> twistshow: what?
[23:54] <gtrmkr> Sorry ... I don't know what that is ...
[23:54] <ScheissDroge1> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && /etc/X11/xorg.conf|pastebinit && sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conforiginal  && sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk                       , mar1
[23:54] <Alan_M> !md5 | gtrmkr
[23:54] <Alan_M> check those two links gtrmkr :)
[23:55] <gtrmkr> Will do. Thanks for pointers!
[23:55] <[T]BludShoT> i cant get hardy heron to install, it froze like a dozen times when it got to 15% installed
[23:55] <tsuna27> twistshow: where do i right click and the options if i click the bar are prefence/exit
[23:55] <jbbarnes> I will try ebox. Thanks for letting me know. I had not heard about no webmin support for Ubuntu. Bummer.
[23:55] <mar1> ScheissDroge1: the last command gave me a permission denied
[23:55] <TWISTshow> tsuna27: under preferences
[23:55] <TWISTshow> you add the app as a launcher i think
[23:55] <mar1> ScheissDroge1: for accessing the xorg.conf i think
[23:55] <ScheissDroge1> mar1: sudo missing:...
[23:55] <Alan_M> jbbarnes, gtrmkr, glad we could help :D
[23:55] <ScheissDroge1> sudo apt-get install pastebinit && /etc/X11/xorg.conf|pastebinit && sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conforiginal  && sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk                       , mar1
[23:56] <mar1> ScheissDroge1: ﻿sudo apt-get install pastebinit && /etc/X11/xorg.conf|pastebinit && sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conforiginal  && sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk
[23:56] <mar1> ScheissDroge1: that was the message i got
[23:56] <tsuna27> twistshow: what is the command to open firefox
[23:56] <TWISTshow> tsuna27: look under system -> preferences -> AWN Manager
[23:56] <TWISTshow> you can add them from there
[23:56] <TWISTshow> or just drag them from the gnome panel
[23:56] <ScheissDroge1> did you enter that ? url ?                     , mar1
[23:57] <TWISTshow> tsuna27: http://news.softpedia.com/news/Install-AWN-on-Hardy-Heron-82611.shtml
[23:58] <ScheissDroge1> pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    ﻿&& sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conforiginal  && sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk       wrong syntax                 , mar1
[23:59] <mar1> ScheissDroge1: errors no arguments specified?
[23:59] <ScheissDroge1> pastebinit /etc/X11/xorg.conf    ﻿&& sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf  /etc/X11/xorg.conforiginal  && sudo apt-get install displayconfig-gtk      , mar1
[23:59] <OmfgItsAshark> hey all