karlizcan someone help me to setup a network connection to a shared windows folder?00:09
karlizhow i have to do it00:09
favro!samba | karliz00:10
ubottukarliz: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.00:10
karlizis it not possible after i installed the SMBFS to scan the network for example in a FileManager Thunar like in the windows explorer?00:17
Odd-rationalekarliz: no. at least not at this time...00:18
karlizhmmm, Dolphin makes it !00:18
Odd-rationaleyou can mount samba share and browse them, but thunar cannot scan for network shares...00:19
Odd-rationalethere are plans to add this feature, though...00:19
karlizand how i put the mounted folder on the left side on thunar?00:20
Odd-rationalekarliz: you can drag the folder to create a bookmark...00:21
karlizokay thanks :)00:22
karliz:) easy00:22
JohnnyBlazewhats up with #Ubuntu00:57
JohnnyBlazeanyone on channel Ubuntu00:59
SoylentGruni just joined00:59
JohnnyBlazecan you see anyone named glitsj6 or 1601:00
SoylentGruni can't01:01
JohnnyBlazehmmm and you looked on the list huh01:01
JohnnyBlazemy comp is whacked I can't connect to ubuntu01:02
SoylentGruncan you connect to other networks?01:02
JohnnyBlazeyeah thats the weird part01:02
JohnnyBlazeI can connect here and Kubuntu but not ubuntu01:03
SoylentGrundoes it give you a msg as to why you can't join that channel.01:03
SoylentGruncheck the server tab.01:03
JohnnyBlazeno just freezes01:03
JohnnyBlazehmmm ok01:03
JohnnyBlazewhere is says chanserv?01:04
JohnnyBlazewhen I first log in the nickserv says my name is not a registered name01:05
favrothere should be an error listed in the sever tab01:05
SoylentGrunin xchat it says freenode.  when you first connect to the server it's where those messages are put01:05
JohnnyBlazeyeah I see the freenode Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to johnnyblaze) from freenode-connect01:06
JohnnyBlazeok I think I figured it out brb01:07
LoCaLMaChInEI am still having problems logging in to channel #ubuntu and I am looking for a user01:26
LoCaLMaChInEis there another name the channel is under01:27
LoCaLMaChInEwho is on channel #ubuntu?01:28
favroLoCaLMaChInE: how are you trying to join? - and who are you looking for :)01:29
LoCaLMaChInEon the buddy list I click on buddies join a chat and then type in the channel01:30
LoCaLMaChInEglitsj6or 16 is the name I am looking for01:30
LoCaLMaChInEI type in #ubuntu siign on and then the screen freezes01:31
LoCaLMaChInEthe chatroom with the namelist window freezes01:32
favroglitsj6or isn't there - I always prefer xchat for its' ease of use :)01:33
LoCaLMaChInEyour not using irc01:34
favroxchat is for irc01:34
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about xchat01:34
favro!info xchat01:34
ubottuxchat (source: xchat): IRC client for X similar to AmIRC. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.8.4-0ubuntu7 (hardy), package size 301 kB, installed size 808 kB01:34
LoCaLMaChInEok so if I use xchat can I sign on to channel #ubuntu01:35
favroI would know how to help then :)01:35
LoCaLMaChInEhmmm where do I get it under add remove or internet01:36
favroad/remove should have it01:36
LoCaLMaChInElet me check brb01:36
LoCaLMaChInEok got it than favro01:42
LoCaLMaChInElet me open it up01:43
favrochoose the ubuntu servers - click edit from the right pane and add the channels you want like - #kubuntu,#ubuntu01:44
favroyou can add your password there too01:44
LoCaLMaChInEok where do I go to join  #ubuntu01:46
favroif the details are right you just click connect01:47
LoCaLMaChInEdooooh closed the window by accident01:48
LoCaLMaChInEok if you wanted to look for someone how do you do it01:51
favrothe userlist is on the right - you need to drag it open with the mouse01:52
LoCaLMaChInEok I will play with this later01:54
LoCaLMaChInEthanx favro appreciate the help01:54
favrogood luck01:54
LoCaLMaChInEgaim was pissing me off01:55
LoCaLMaChInEI hate it now01:55
favroI couldn't be bothered figuring it out...01:55
LoCaLMaChInEit used to work not no more01:55
LoCaLMaChInEP.O.S is what gaim is01:55
favroI thought it was called pidgin now ?01:56
LoCaLMaChInEprobably I have 6306lts dapper01:56
favrok :)01:56
LoCaLMaChInEtrying to get 8.04 xubuntu01:56
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels01:57
LoCaLMaChInEthanks for your help favro I appreciate it01:57
LoCaLMaChInEI would do it that way but I have dial up that may take me 3 days01:57
favroLoCaLMaChInE: np :)01:57
favrohehe - there are free cd's but they take a few weeks01:58
LoCaLMaChInEI may go with that isos are a pain download01:58
LoCaLMaChInEwell gotta go thanx01:59
favrothere might be an ubuntu loco team for your country...01:59
favrosee ya01:59
LoCaLMaChInEtell me01:59
favrowhere are you?01:59
favrothere's ones for diff states01:59
ubottuInformation on Ubuntu Local Community Teams is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeams02:00
LoCaLMaChInEneighboring states Georgia florida02:00
favromight be quicker for a cd :)02:00
LoCaLMaChInEyeah I know well thanks for all the help all of you fell better now02:01
LoCaLMaChInElove these support channels I have learned a lot02:01
LoCaLMaChInEthanks all02:02
blahbah7hey i have a xubuntu question02:18
favroask away :)02:18
blahbah7will xubuntu work on an ibm thinkpad with a 1.3gb hard drive02:18
favromight be short on space there - try the lighter distos like damn small or puppy :)02:19
blahbah7im not too sure if it will like working with that old hardware02:19
blahbah7its running windows 95 atm02:20
favropuppy 3 has a retro kernel for older comps02:20
blahbah7ok, cool02:20
favro#puppylinux will help you out02:20
blahbah7yeah im on my hp from last year right now, i just needed to know that for a friend02:21
blahbah7thx for the help02:22
relaszcan anyone help me, when I boot into xubuntu the load screen comes up fine, then the nvidia logo comes up, but then it just goes to a blank screen with a loading cursor... here's a video of it: http://qik.com/video/22989206:28
favroif you've had an update you might need to reinstall your vid card drivers06:33
favrorelasz: ^^06:33
relaszI didn't update though, infact I don't remember doing anything special I just woke up today started ubuntu and it happened :( I'll try it anyway I suppose. Although I'm not really sure how to do it from command line >_>06:34
favrorelasz: boot into recovery - then  nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf - change device driver to  vesa  - then reboot into gui land and reinstall like you know how :)06:36
relaszalrighty, cheers for the help :D06:37
coreyI am gettng an error in the totem movie player and am unable to play dvds08:12
corey** (totem:6253): WARNING **: Failed to create dbus proxy for org.gnome.SettingsDaemon: Could not get owner of name 'org.gnome.SettingsDaemon': no such name08:12
coreyanyone here?08:17
coreyanyone help me08:17
coreyanyone here?08:18
favrocorey: did you start with the normal ubuntu and add xubuntu to it?08:19
favroor is it vanilla xubuntu?08:19
coreyI started with ubuntu and then reinstalled the xubuntu08:19
coreyover it08:19
coreyits the regular xubuntu08:20
coreyI'm having problems with the totem player and the sound, I get no sound from anything08:21
favrocorey: check in totems pref that it is using alsa not pulse08:23
coreythe player locked up< How do I force it to quit?08:25
favrocorey: in a terminal or alt+F2 type   kilall totem08:26
coreyI'm looking in the prefs, and it doesn't say either08:28
coreyit says general:  networking, tvout, text subtitles08:28
favrocorey: I/m not on a box with totem atm - have you installed extra sound codecs?08:29
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/common-tasks-chap.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats08:29
favrocorey: and is it a dvd?08:29
ubottuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs08:30
ubottumedibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org08:30
favrocorey: like windows you need to install some stuff08:30
ushimitsudokiI have a panel on a second x screen with a quicklauncher applet. But, the applications all launch on the first x screen?09:27
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coreycan someone tell me how to install my downloaded soundcard driver13:19
spasticteapotI'm having some trouble with WINE under Xubuntu.13:19
spasticteapotI can't access my "C:13:20
spasticteapot\" drive, or any of my installed programs.13:20
coreydoes anyone know how to install drivers13:20
coreyhelp me please13:22
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.13:23
favrocorey: what's the driver?13:23
coreyalsa driver-1.0.17.tar.bz213:24
coreyI downloaded it to the desktop13:24
favrocorey: in terminal cd to the dir - e.g. cd ./Desktop13:25
spasticteapotubottu: I'm trying to run WINE-compatible software. Starcraft, for example.13:25
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)13:25
favrotghen tar -xvjf alsa driver-1.0.17.tar.bz213:26
ubottuYou have lag, I don't have lag13:26
ubottuWINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine for more information, and see !AppDB for application compatibility.13:26
coreyI'm getting the error when I try to cd./desktop  no such file or directory13:27
favrospasticteapot: try in #winehq :)13:27
spasticteapotI did.13:27
spasticteapotNobody's home.13:27
favrocorey: captial d13:28
favrocd ./Desktop13:28
spasticteapotSay, do you know how to make WINE open an app through the CLI?13:28
favrospasticteapot: I don't do wine sorry :)13:28
favrotry in #ubuntu13:28
spasticteapotGood luck on that....13:29
coreyok that worked, what next13:30
favrotar -xvjf alsa driver-1.0.17.tar.bz213:30
favroand look for a readme file13:31
coreypermission denied13:32
favrosudo chown -v you:you  tar -xvjf alsa driver-1.0.17.tar.bz2 - you = your login name13:34
coreychown: invalid option --x13:37
viddcorey, what ya trying to do?13:37
coreyinstall a driver for a soundcard13:37
favrocorey: paste the command you used here pls :)13:37
corey tar -xvjf alsa-driver-1.0.17.tar.bz213:38
viddcorey, what directory are you in?13:39
coreywhen I run that command I get a big list with no errors13:41
viddthen i dont see where you are getting the chown error13:41
favrocorey: that is the package unpacking - on your desktop should be lots of files then?13:42
viddthe big list with no errors should mean that you successfully unpacked the file13:42
coreyyeah it left a folder on the desktop13:42
coreythen I ran the command13:43
viddyou need to cd alsa-driver[the rest of the folder name]13:43
favroin the folder there should be a readme13:43
corey sudo chown -v corey:corey  tar -xvjf alsa driver-1.0.17.tar.bz213:43
viddyou dont need to chown cuzz you already own the directory13:44
coreythe readme file has nothing important in it13:45
coreysays the features13:45
viddwhere did you dl the file?13:46
favrois there a file named make?13:46
* vidd would like to view it13:46
favrocorey: you need to install build-essential  to make the package13:48
coreyhow do I do that13:48
favrosudo apt-get install build essential13:48
favrosudo apt-get install build-essential13:48
vidddont forget the hyphen13:48
viddpesky things like that throw me all the time =]13:49
coreysudo apt-get install build-essentials13:50
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viddno "s" at the end13:50
viddsudo apt-get install build-essential13:50
coreyok its working13:51
coreyok finished13:51
favrostill in the ./Desktop dir type make13:52
* vidd thinks he'll keep his fat fingers out and just watch for a bit =]13:52
viddshouldnt he be in the ~/Desktop/{alsa directory]?13:53
favro still in the ./Desktop dir type make - should be ./configure13:54
favrothen make then make install13:54
coreyno rule to make target13:55
favrocorey: the folder on the desktop has a name - cd ./"name"13:56
favrothen ./configure13:56
favrothen make13:56
vidd*wave* maxamillion13:59
coreyif its still not working, do I have the wrong driver14:01
favrocorey: canyou give us the error?14:03
coreyno error, just still no sound14:03
favrocorey: type   alsamixer   in terminal and turn all up14:04
coreyeverything is up14:05
favroand whay does   uname -r   say?14:06
favroahhh the -19 intel sound issue - do you still have the -18 kernel - synaptic will tell14:09
coreywhere do I look in synaptic14:10
favroclick the search button and type 2.6.2414:13
favroyou want linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic14:15
coreyI markd it for installation14:15
favroyou'll need to install and prob the sound won't work then you do the ./configure steps again14:17
coreywhy is it saying when I go into the synaptic that its without administrative priveleges14:18
viddbecause you are opening it without admin priveleges14:20
viddin terminal, type gksu synaptic14:20
viddyou will be prompted for your password14:20
coreynow I need to go through the steps you said before14:22
coreyok, still no sound14:25
alberto_lghello all14:26
viddcorey, when you install the "new" kernel, you need to reboot and choose it from grub14:26
alberto_lghi there, can i ask a question?14:28
viddgo ahead14:28
alberto_lgthanks, i just downloaded the alternate install of xubuntu14:29
alberto_lgbut when i install it from my apache server, it don't install the desktop14:29
viddyou chose the "server" or cli-only install14:29
alberto_lgcan't install from the net because i don't have a fast connection, and the notebook don't have a cd-rom14:30
alberto_lgjust this14:30
viddif you want the desktop, type sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop14:30
corey_when I rebooted and went into grub I didn't have the option of the new kernel14:30
viddthen sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart14:31
alberto_lgant it will install from the image i downloaded or will try to download the xfce?14:31
viddif your sources is set to read from the cd, it will get it from the cd, if it is set to the internet, it will get from the internet14:32
viddif i is set to both, it will get whichever has the newest stuff14:32
alberto_lgi used an apache server local and extracted the image in a folder, than booted the notebook from the net14:33
viddoh...that is outside the scope of my experience14:34
alberto_lgbut at the end of the installation, it tell me the only core is installed, and tell me i can choose other components, but don't let me choose a desktop like the ubuntu install that works fine14:34
viddwell....once it is installed, you can just apt-get the desktop14:35
alberto_lgi will try to install again right now... thanks vidd, i'll be back to report if i'm lucky :-)14:36
favrocorey_: in a terminal type   sudo update-grub14:36
favrocorey_: should say something about menu.lst - check that file /boot/grub/menu.lst - at the bottom are the kernel options14:39
corey_doesn't show the new kernel14:40
corey_shows the 2.6.24-19-generic14:40
favrocorey_: check synaptic to see if it is listed as installed then if it is check in /boot/grub for its' image14:42
corey_its showing in synaptic as being installed14:43
corey_I'm in the directory /boot/grub14:45
favrosorry corey_ in the /boot dir the 2.6.24-18-generic kernel image should be14:47
corey_not seeing it14:48
corey_only the 2.6.24-1914:48
favrobut if it is there and grub won't update and use it I'm lost...try the reinstall option for it in synaptic14:49
corey_after I run the ./configure14:49
corey_do I need to restart the computer for it to be seen14:50
wolscorey_: dpkg -l |grep linux-image14:50
wolscorey_: pastebin the result14:50
favroyep you need a reboot14:50
wolscorey_: no14:50
wolsno reboot14:50
corey_ii  linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic              2.6.24-19.36                             Linux kernel image for version 2.6.24 on x86/x86_6414:51
corey_ii  linux-image-generic                                           Generic Linux kernel image14:51
favrowols: he used synaptic to get the kernel - it shows as installed but not in /boot14:51
wolshe has no linux-image-2.6.24-18 as this output shows14:51
wolsso whatever he saw in synaptic was a fata morgana14:52
favrothat's just latin to me14:52
wolscorey_: what was he exact package name you installed corey_?14:53
favroif it shows as installed and won't reinstall then dpkg?14:53
corey_I reinstalled the package14:53
corey_was the 2.6.24-18-generic14:54
favrois it in /boot?14:54
wolscorey_: you did not install it14:54
wolsthe dpkg output proves it without a doubt14:54
corey_is there another way to install it14:55
wolsapt-get install <package>14:55
corey_apt-get install14:55
wolspastebin its output btw14:56
wolsso we can see if it actually will install it14:56
wols!info linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic14:56
ubottulinux-image-2.6.24-18-generic (source: linux): Linux kernel image for version 2.6.24 on x86/x86_64. In component main, is optional. Version 2.6.24-18.32 (hardy), package size 17942 kB, installed size 60356 kB14:56
corey_corey@corey-laptop:/boot$ apt-get install <package>14:57
corey_bash: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'14:57
favrocorey_: you should use sudo14:58
wolscorey_: read, and THINK before you type14:58
jdwpomI think they meant that you should type apt-get install 2.6.24-18-generic - the <package> part was a generlaisation.14:58
wolsthat'S not his only error14:58
jdwpomAh.  Seeing as I'm new too, what else (apart from the aforementioned sudo thing) should I be looking for there?14:59
favrocorey@corey-laptop:/boot$ sudo apt-get installapt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic14:59
favro sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-18-generic15:00
corey_abi-2.6.24-18-generic      initrd.img-2.6.24-19-generic.bak15:01
corey_abi-2.6.24-19-generic      memtest86+.bin15:01
corey_config-2.6.24-18-generic      System.map-2.6.24-18-generic15:01
corey_config-2.6.24-19-generic      System.map-2.6.24-19-generic15:01
corey_grub      vmlinuz-2.6.24-18-generic15:01
corey_initrd.img-2.6.24-18-generic  vmlinuz-2.6.24-19-generic15:01
jdwpomI don't mean to interrupt anybody else waiting, but how do you go about getting in line for advice?  Is there a queue of some form I should be joining?15:03
favrocoreyjust ask :)15:04
favroor just ask15:04
jdwpomOh, awesome.15:04
favrothe suspense is killing me...15:05
Myrttiit is15:05
jdwpomSo, it's more of a niggle, but I can't find anything about it anywhere, and figured this'd be the place to start.  I'm using a pretty much fresh Xubuntu setup, so nothing should be to untoward, but I've noticed that whencopying/moving files around tehre's nothing by way of a progess indicaor (I just switched from the Ubuntu (I guess that'd be GNOME) one, which was pretty sweet) and was...15:06
jdwpom...wondering if this is something I've managed to personally break, or if I need to install something to gain that sort of thing.15:06
jdwpomSorry.  It's a novel.  I'm overly wordy - it's the whole 'polite' thing.15:07
jdwpom(oh god, kill me for those typos)15:08
favrojdwpom: well put and totally understandable :) - I get feedback from moving files as default - I don't know why  you wouldn't...15:09
jdwpomWell, the only things I can think of that would affect it are either something Thunar-based, or maybe the fact I'm using the Window Manager's default compositer (Woo!  See-through windows with no OpenGL) is suppressing the window.15:10
jdwpom(Idea hadn't come to me until now, I'll just try it out)15:10
favrojdwpom: I use the compositor as well - there's normally a messagebox with time remaining showing15:11
corey_when I reboot with the new kernel I don't have sound or network15:12
jdwpomI'll tinker for a couple minutes while you help corey out.  Figure I'd best check every option15:12
favrocorey_: you'll have to build the package again for the new kernel15:12
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favrocody-somerville: do you know why there wouldn't be a messagebox during file moves/copies?15:14
jdwpom(compsitor's not it)15:14
favrocody-somerville: in english :) pls15:15
cody-somervilleerror, lack of context :P15:15
jdwpomI can see I'm going to like this guy15:15
jdwpomShold I just copy and paste what's already been said, then?15:16
favrojdwpom: is it with all files/a new thing?15:16
jdwpomXubuntu's the new thing :D  I just figured that it was something Thunar/XfCE/whatever's in charge of that sort of thing didn't have.15:16
jdwpomBut then thought to check15:16
favrojdwpom: nope - I have feedback - it might just be the file you moved/copied - tried with other files?15:17
wolscorey_: what soundcard, what network card?15:17
corey_its an intel soundcard on an acer laptop15:18
wolssupported by ubuntu out of the box normally, nothing you can recompile15:18
jdwpomfavro: yip, it's everything I've played around with - a couple of large movies between two partitios, a couple flicked around the same partition for testing, and some smaller bits and pieces.  Nothing doing.15:18
jdwpomThis favro:  This is by dragging and dropping.  Would it make a difference if I were using copy/paste, perhaps?15:19
jdwpom(bbs - tinkering)15:19
jdwpomAlright - problem, umm, 'fixed'15:20
favrojdwpom: I always use the right click options - might be a diff there15:20
jdwpomfavro: right-click does the trick15:21
favrothere you go then - for feedback use the right click options :)15:21
favrojdwpom: does seem less then apprpriate tho..15:21
jdwpomfavro: I can only assume the dialog is created by the 'to' window, and drag-dropping can't decide which one's in charge.  Or something.  Either way, it's weird.  I guess I just got too used to having these things handled by their own seperate little window.15:22
jdwpomfavro: which begs the question, what if I were to close a thunar window while it's copying?15:22
jdwpom(bbs - tinkering)15:22
favrojdwpom: and remember xfce is lightweight - some things are foresaken for speed15:23
corey_how do I rebuild the package15:23
jdwpomfavro: Yeah.  It's pretty damn sexy, thouhg.  My little P733's running about as fast as, well, ok, I don't want to hurt anyones's feelings, but, about as fast as when I had XP on it, but with shorter boots.15:24
favroxfce ftw!15:25
favrocorey_: make sure you're in the ~/Desktop/alsa-driver-1.0.17.tar.bz2 dir then ./configure15:25
jdwpomfavro: Though that's considering that the video driver's a little wonky, and so I don't get any 3d acceleration, which I DID have with windows, and I appear to own the only wMicrodia webcam that linux doesn't have drivers for.  Let's not get started on the IrDA dongle.15:25
jdwpomfavro: this is Dog punishing me for all those years of pirating Windows...15:26
jdwpomAnyhow, thankyou very much everyone.  I promise to visit more often, though hopefully in a position to actually lend a hand, rather than 'OH CRAP I BROKE SOMETHING.  AGAIN.  SOME MORE'15:27
favrojdwpom: with 20000+ apps for free I feel checking h/ware compatability beforehand is a small price - but when you're new that can be a hard lesson :)15:27
corey_now I have to reboot again15:27
favrocorey_: ./configure make make install then reboot15:28
jdwpomfavro: I sort of built my computer from spare parts I found at the tip about five years ago, and live on quite the budget.  The bits and bobs are just things I've amassed over the years, and, well, I didn't get much choice on the hardware compatability thing hehe.15:28
favrojdwpom: when I bought a job lot of comps for the home lan 1 had full support - 2 yrs later all are supported15:30
wolsjdwpom: what videocard?15:30
jdwpomfavro: She's my baby, and when Windows fried, I couldn't just let her sit there and turn into a paprweight, so  I flicked in the Ubuntu Live CD I'd whipped up for giving myself that whole 'One day, I'll make the switch' buzz.  After something liek 20 reinstalls (no exaggeration, but mostly all my fault.  This is how I learn, though) I played with Kubuntu, then this version.  Now I'm happy to...15:30
jdwpom...sit and wait.15:30
jdwpomfavro: Yeah, I figure it's just a patience thing, though I imagine that nobody's going to make a specific Intel 815 driver any time soon, and while easycam might get there on the webcam, that IrDA will probably take some time.15:31
wolsjdwpom: intel made a driver...15:32
favrojdwpom: there's already an intel driver for that15:32
jdwpomIt's a fairly generic one, and while it's functional, it skimps on a few of the features that the card has15:32
favroi810 I beieve15:32
favroit's pretty mature afaik15:33
jdwpomyeah, already installed, but lacks openGL support, for some reason.  I had a read-through of the documentation and got rather disappointed.15:33
favro3d is another kettle of fish - intel makes no money from us...15:34
wolsiot will do openGL with the DRI kernel module and mesa15:34
wolsfavro: wrong15:34
favrowols: which bit? pls15:34
favroahh 3d15:34
jdwpomOkay, so quickly then - DRI kernel module?  Mesa (grabs crowbar)15:34
wolsthey sell you cpus, chipsets and videochips15:35
wolsthey make money off you. not as if they charge for their windows drivers15:35
jdwpom(They didn't make a red cent from my scavenging ass)15:35
favrowols: any clues on the steps to 3d with intel15:36
wolsglxinfo output first15:36
wolsthat tells you where you stand15:37
favrojdwpom: ^^15:37
wolsusually, it should all work out of the box in hardy15:37
jdwpomOh, like I say, it works, but the linux driver skimps on features.15:37
jdwpomCompare: http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/intel815/sb/cs-009143.htm15:38
coreyI ran the ./config and restarted with the new kernel and still nothing, no network, no sound15:38
jdwpomwith: http://www.intel.com/support/graphics/intel815/sb/cs-009147.htm15:38
favrocorey: there are three steps - ./configure   then  make   then  make install15:39
wolsfavro: why do you think he needs to compile anything?15:40
=== jdwpom is now known as jdwpom-away
favrowols: he has no sound - in either kernel and was trying to compile when I came in - it is linux15:42
favrowols: any clues appreciated15:43
coreycorey@corey-laptop:~/Desktop/alsa-driver-1.0.17$ make install15:45
coreyif [ -L /usr/include/sound ]; then \15:45
coreyrm -f /usr/include/sound; \15:45
coreyln -sf /home/corey/Desktop/alsa-driver-1.0.17/include/sound /usr/include/sound; \15:45
coreyelse \15:45
coreyrm -rf /usr/include/sound; \15:45
coreyinstall -d -m 755 -g root -o root /usr/include/sound; \15:45
coreyfor f in include/sound/*.h; do \15:45
coreyinstall -m 644 -g root -o root $f /usr/include/sound; \15:45
coreydone \15:45
coreyinstall: cannot change owner and permissions of `/usr/include/sound': No such file or directory15:45
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:45
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:45
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:45
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:45
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:45
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
favrocorey: my bad - should have been sudo make install15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
* El_Marco gets the point15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:46
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:47
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:47
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:47
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:48
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:48
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:48
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:48
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:48
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:48
coreyinstall: cannot create regular file `/usr/include/sound': Permission denied15:48
coreymake: *** [install-headers] Error 115:48
coreycorey@corey-laptop:~/Desktop/alsa-driver-1.0.17$ sudo make install15:48
corey[sudo] password for corey:15:48
coreyif [ -L /usr/include/sound ]; then \15:48
coreyrm -f /usr/include/sound; \15:48
coreyln -sf /home/corey/Desktop/alsa-driver-1.0.17/include/sound /usr/include/sound; \15:48
coreyelse \15:48
coreyrm -rf /usr/include/sound; \15:48
coreyinstall -d -m 755 -g root -o root /usr/include/sound; \15:48
favro!paste | corey15:48
ubottucorey: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)15:48
coreyfor f in include/sound/*.h; do \15:48
bytor4232corey: Stop flooding the channel15:48
coreyinstall -m 644 -g root -o root $f /usr/include/sound; \15:48
coreydone \15:48
coreyfind /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/sound -name 'snd*.*o' | xargs rm -f15:49
coreyfind /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/sound -name 'snd*.*o.gz' | xargs rm -f15:49
bytor4232corey: use http://paste.ubuntu.com15:49
coreyfind /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/sound -name 'ac97_bus.*o' | xargs rm -f15:49
coreyfind /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/sound -name 'ac97_bus.*o.gz' | xargs rm -f15:49
coreymake[1]: Entering directory `/home/corey/Desktop/alsa-driver-1.0.17/acore'15:49
favrothat fi is a tease15:49
coreymkdir -p /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/sound/acore15:49
coreycp snd-hwdep.ko snd-page-alloc.ko snd-pcm.ko snd-rawmidi.ko snd-rtctimer.ko snd-timer.ko snd.ko /lib/modules/2.6.24-19-generic/kernel/sound/acore15:49
coreycp: cannot stat `snd-hwdep.ko': No such file or directory15:49
coreycp: cannot stat `snd-page-alloc.ko': No such file or directory15:49
coreycp: cannot stat `snd-pcm.ko': No such file or directory15:49
coreycp: cannot stat `snd-rawmidi.ko': No such file or directory15:49
coreycp: cannot stat `snd-rtctimer.ko': No such file or directory15:49
coreycp: cannot stat `snd-timer.ko': No such file or directory15:49
coreycp: cannot stat `snd.ko': No such file or directory15:49
coreymake[1]: *** [modules_install] Error 115:49
coreymake[1]: Leaving directory `/home/corey/Desktop/alsa-driver-1.0.17/acore'15:49
coreymake: *** [install-modules] Error 115:49
bytor4232corey: Stop flooding the channel15:49
bytor4232corey: use http://paste.ubuntu.com15:49
* El_Marco has a problem but suspects it may be a rather large one, due mainly to being a newbie at this sort o' thing; here goes. Anyone willing to listen and try and help?15:50
favrocorey: my bad - should have been   sudo make install15:50
=== jdwpom-away is now known as jdwpom
favroapologies to all ;)15:51
coreythats the error when I type sudo make install15:51
corey./configure worked fine15:51
coreymake  worked fine15:52
coreysudo make install   isn't working15:52
jdwpomEL_Marco: I'm kind of new, too, but can try.15:52
El_MarcoCheers, jdwpom. I'll see if I can explain.15:52
El_MarcoOk, well, I was given an old laptop by a friend. The last thing he did with it, before putting it away in a cupboard, was instal Xubuntu and lose the admin password. Xubuntu (whichever version it is) is lovely but without the admin password I can't seem to do much with it. I can't edit settings and the computer won't access the internet or play media files.15:53
wolsEl_Marco: there is no admin password.15:54
wolsEl_Marco: xubuntu uses sudo and all you need is your user's password for that15:54
El_Marcowols:  it asks me for a password and my user's password doesn't work for it15:55
wolsEl_Marco: what does?15:55
El_MarcoAny time I try to access any of the settings menu15:55
jdwpomwols: I think it's more along the lines of 'it's got the auto-login set, so it'll boot, but I don't know the password'15:55
El_Marcojdwpom : No, that's not it.15:55
wolsEl_Marco: exact command15:55
wolsEl_Marco: do you know your user's password?15:56
El_MarcoI do have a login and password - my friend did give me that. Just no access to any of the settings menus15:56
El_Marcowols; yes15:56
wolsthen you can use sudo and gksudo15:56
El_MarcoI can?15:56
wolsunless he misconfigured it15:56
wolsapt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade15:56
favrocorey: you are using hardy yes15:57
El_Marcohmm. Here we have the biggest problem; the computer is at my studio right now, so I can't actually check.15:57
El_Marcowols; I asume it needs to be online to do that? I couldn't seem to get it online either though.15:57
wolsEl_Marco: yes15:58
wolsEl_Marco: sudo fdisk -l15:58
El_MarcoOk - cheers, I'll give it a go.15:59
jdwpomJust for my own clarification, how exactly does sudo work?  I mean, does it just instantly make any user - even one with jack all permissions - able to do anything they want?15:59
favroif the root password isn't set then booting in recovery will let El_Marco install stuff15:59
wolsEl_Marco: try this command to see if it works16:00
wolsit should. if it doesn't no partitions are shown. if it does, at least one partition will be shown16:00
wolsif that doesn't work, you need to reboot via live cd and reset password and check sudo settings16:00
El_MarcoIn any case, I'd like to update Xubuntu - the version I'm using right now seems unable to 'make' (compile?) packages - no gcc or something.16:01
wolsEl_Marco: install build-essential16:01
El_Marcowols - I think I tried that but unpacking the archive failed due to missing something - I think gcc16:01
jdwpomMight this be worth a re-format/reinstall?16:01
El_MarcoI'd be up for that, actualy.16:02
El_MarcoI'd be much more confident if I'd been through setting the entire thing up myself.16:02
wolsmaybe not a bad idea16:02
El_Marcoright now I'm just prodding this thing I've really no clue about.16:02
jdwpomMeans you can set your accounts up properly and so on, too.  D/l a live CD on the computer you're now on and be happy.16:02
El_Marco*nod* sounds like a plan.16:03
ron_oany issues with 8.04LTS? Should I "upgrade" or just update everything.16:03
ron_ojust don't want any issues. :/16:03
favrowols: in recovery as root doesn't passwd <user> let you set a new password?16:03
wolsno one can or will guarantee you that16:03
El_MarcoOk. Wols, jdwpom, favro - thanks, people.16:03
ron_oso true...16:03
ron_oI'll just keep everything as is.16:03
ron_oI've enough problems right now.16:04
wolsfavro: if you start via "init=/bin/sh" it will16:04
El_Marcojdwpom: when you say "DL a live CD", would that be the Desktop CD rather than the install CD? http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/xubuntu/releases/hardy/release/16:07
jdwpomPersonally, I recommend the desktop.  That way you can make sure it'll find things like your network card/internet connection and so on before install.16:07
El_MarcoGotcha. Ok, I'll go with that for the moment.16:08
jdwpomYou mentioned you couldn't get the computer online, so it'll pay to check, though I imagine it'll work.16:08
El_MarcoThere's a bunch of stuff it won't do right now, including acessing the card on a digital camera via a usb cable.16:09
jdwpomEl_Marco The alternate CD is basically a text-based version of the other one, from what I've managed to figure out.  Us n00bs should probably stick with the  easier option :D16:09
El_MarcoOh. hehe, I see. Yeah, text based sounds a little hardcore for me right now.16:10
wolsEl_Marco: alternate install is the debian installer16:10
wolsworks on more systems, is for some people harder to use16:10
El_MarcoI do see.16:10
jdwpomEl_MarcoL Hit google with your camera's model number, and tack the word 'ubuntu' on the end of your search, and you'll know in no time if it's supported.  If not, invest in a cheap card reader - you can pick one up for next to nothing that'll read every card under the sun, and is certain to work16:11
El_Marcogood idea16:11
El_Marco*does so*16:11
wolsjdwpom: not certain16:12
wolsand compatibility is tested against linux, not just ubuntu16:12
wolsif one distro works, all will (with enough prodding)16:12
jdwpomwols: Yeah, but using the 'ubuntu' part shows more erliable options, I've found.  Also, don't most card readers just use the Mass Storage driver?  I'm yet to see one that doesn't.16:13
wolsoh, e.g. there are toshiba lappie built in card readers that simply aren't supported16:13
jdwpomIntriguing.  I wonder how Toshiba managed to mess tHAT one up?16:14
jdwpomEither way, if he buys one, he should be good..16:14
jdwpom(As in, buys an  external reader)16:15
El_Marcoone forum post I just read said something about changing the transfer mode in camera settings itself.16:15
El_Marco(about my specific model)16:16
* El_Marco will give that a go16:16
jdwpomGoogle: Screw the dogs - WE'RE man's best friend.16:17
jdwpomAnyhow, what with it being 2amish, I'm out.  Thanks once again for all the help, everyone.16:18
jdwpomOops.  Misread the clock.  Let's try 3am.16:18
El_MarcoCheers for your helps, jdwpom16:19
jdwpomDon't thank me, thank wols for continually and consistently correcting me :D16:19
El_Marcohehe, yeah, thanks for correcting the Ozy, wols ;)16:20
favroEl_Marco: did you mean aussie?16:22
El_MarcoYep yep. He was Ozish.16:23
favrohe had pom in his name - a new recruit to aus?16:23
El_MarcoI did wonder.16:24
favroor should that be pohm?16:24
El_Marcoor pomme?16:24
favroprisoner of her majesty16:25
El_MarcoI wonder what he did to be extradited.16:25
=== cody-somerville_ is now known as cody-somerville
* cody-somerville notes that we have #xubuntu-offtopic for offtopic discussion :-]16:25
* El_Marco prepares another silly question relevant to the topic.16:25
El_MarcoCould I... erm. put the Desktop CD on my USB stick rather than making an actual CD for it?16:26
Myrttiand I think it's silly to have -offtopic for different ubuntu projects :-þ16:26
MyrttiEl_Marco: yes16:26
El_MarcoIf I... changed the boot priority for USB devices?16:26
favropendrivelinux.com has the info for that El_Marco16:27
Myrtti(but I'm a silly person, I think Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Kubuntu are just different "themings" for *buntu)16:27
El_Marcocheers. I'll go have a look16:27
Myrttianyway, I'm off to buy milk16:27
El_MarcoThat's cool, favro16:29
favroit'll get you started El_Marco ?16:30
El_Marcofavro: Looks like it certainly could do that, yeah.16:30
=== steven_ is now known as s_even
s_evenhow are you?17:48
s_evenI Xubuntu is less popular than kubuntu... a pitty...17:49
bytor4232Its europe.  They love KDE.17:51
s_evenI don't :p17:52
s_evento much Vista-like, but even worse then vista ^^17:52
s_evenToo complicated for stuff that should be simple...17:53
viddoh? like what?17:55
* vidd has never tried KDE17:56
s_eveneuhm... To change the lay-out theme, you have to go trough a hell17:59
bytor4232We should take this conversation out of the support room, and into the offtopic room.17:59
s_eventhough, once you know how to do it, you can change much more than with xubuntu18:00
s_evenofftopic room?18:00
s_evenwhere's that?18:00
zoredache #xubuntu-offtopic18:00
=== s_even is now known as s_Even
s_Evenhello vinnl18:24
vinnlHey s_Even18:24
s_Evenis youre problem solved?18:25
vinnlMy problem?18:25
vidd<o/ vinnl18:25
s_Evenhadn't you problems to install xubuntu?18:26
s_Evenor am i confusing with someone else?18:26
vinnlHey vidd18:27
vinnls_Even, I guess so ;-)18:27
vinnlHi Grrai20:32
Grraiagain :P20:32
shadowhywindhay all anyone know whee i can find the system requirments ?20:33
vinnlshadowhywind, http://www.xubuntu.org/get#requirements20:34
shadowhywindis there any major changes between intrepid and hardy? like for kubuntu going from kde 3 to kde 4.120:36
Odd-rationalexfce 4.620:36
vinnlIf it's finished in time20:36
Odd-rationalenot a big change...20:36
vinnlshadowhywind, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap20:37
shadowhywindhehe ok. I am installing it on an older system (650 MHZ, 256 mb ram)20:37
vinnlAlso, not sure if this will make it into 8.10 but it looks exciting: http://cody.zapto.org/?p=41 :)20:39
kalikiana1TheSheep: a little channel ot, but I like how Junk is coming along, just tried the demo22:26
xXxREDxBULLxXxhow can I connect to my home network on xubuntu?22:26
zoredachexXxREDxBULLxXx: can you be more specific?  If you are asking about accessing windows file shares you need to install something like fusesmb22:27
xXxREDxBULLxXxi just would like to see the files on my home network22:28
xXxREDxBULLxXxLike in ubuntu, i could easily see them, now I cant in xubuntu22:28
zoredachethunar does not have a built in smb browser...  There are several ways to connect.22:29
xXxREDxBULLxXxwhat would be the most simple and easy22:30
zoredachefusesmb isn't too bad... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FuseSmb22:30
xXxREDxBULLxXxcould you help me install this?22:34
zoredachethere is a guide on the link I provided.  Have you read through that?  Are you having problems with a particular step?22:35
xXxREDxBULLxXxreading it now =D22:36
xXxREDxBULLxXxlooks pretty confusing, is there anything easy like ubuntu? If there isn't I won't bother trying to connect =\22:39
zoredachenot really... fusesmb is one of the easiest ways.  There are other ways, but they get far more complex22:41
xXxREDxBULLxXxi guess ill give up for now22:42
zoredachethere may be a 'wizard' or something with the intrepid release.  I know they are trying to work on making this easy.22:43
xXxREDxBULLxXxholy shit it worked22:43
xXxREDxBULLxXxsweet its working22:44
phayzi've read the doco i could find but...is there an xfce-specific guide to running compiz-fusion under ubuntu?22:46
phayzi want to run "vanilla" ubuntu, but with an xfce desktop, then enable compiz-fusion22:48
phayzthere are guides on gnome and kubuntu with compiz but i can't find doco on xfce and compiz (on the ubuntu or xubuntu wikis)22:49
xXxREDxBULLxXxI'm trying to make a launcher for gmuisbrowser, where can I find the icon?23:01
zoredachewhat is gmuisbrowser?23:03
xXxREDxBULLxXxgmusicbrowser, it like lets you play music23:04
xXxREDxBULLxXxwhere would the icon be?23:04
zoredacheone trick might be to try 'dpkg -L gmusicbrowser | less' at a command line23:05
zoredachethat would list all the files that where part of the package23:05
xXxREDxBULLxXxwhere do i type that?23:07
zoredachein a terminal23:08

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