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vicentehola00:10
vicentequine anda ahi00:11
thorsten_Good night, and good luck00:11
bdizzlewhat would cause a server to actively refuse your connection on IRC?00:31
Dr_willismay be a ban?00:32
bdizzlenot that I am aware of00:32
Hydrogenthe server having problems.00:33
Dr_willislook for any informational messages also..   :) could be it dont like you00:33
bdizzle[19:33] [Info] Looking for server irc.freenode.net:6667...00:34
bdizzle[19:33] [Info] Server found, connecting...00:34
bdizzle[19:33] [Error] Connection to Server irc.freenode.net lost: connection actively refused. Trying to00:34
HydrogenIt's probably just one of the servers in the rotation having issues00:34
Hydrogenand/or you have too many connections open to the server at once00:34
Hydrogenask #freenode00:34
Daisuke_Idostupid ipod shuffle :(00:43
* Dr_willis hands Daisuke_Ido a hammer.00:43
Daisuke_Idoi *might* have found a solution, but it's a very very long shot00:56
Daisuke_Idoit was completely borked00:56
Daisuke_Idomy fiancee's is fine00:57
Daisuke_Idoso...  you see where i'm going with this, right?00:57
DragnslcrBuy a real media player?00:58
Daisuke_Idoi have a sansa, but i got the ipod on an impulse buy00:59
Daisuke_Idobut no, that's not where i was going00:59
Daisuke_Idodd hers to a backup, and dd the backup to mine00:59
Daisuke_Idoworth a shot00:59
Daisuke_Idoit probably won't work01:00
Daisuke_Idobut i don't have any better ideas at this point01:01
aaron1my monitor is going nuts after enabling compiz my screen is stuck at top right area while the bottom is covered by some other wallpaper due to this i'm unable to view my lower area to change my resolution. can i open system settings through konsole ?01:03
bdizzlekcontrol01:05
geek_Daisuke_Ido: actually you might be able to restore it with itunes, but unfortunately you need a windows system or a mac01:05
aaron1how can i open kcontrol from konsole01:06
Guest36573just type it aaron1 (?)01:06
aaron1just type kcontrol01:07
Daisuke_Idogeek_: yeah, but for now, i don't have either of those :)01:07
aaron1ok oh kewl i'm at work now i'll try when i get home01:07
aaron1lol man i though my install was screwed up01:07
aaron1didn't feel like reinstalling thanks a million dbizzle my nizzle01:07
Daisuke_Idothere's a mac lab and eight or nine large windows labs on campus, so i'll have to check that out *if* this doesn't work01:08
bdizzleoh it will still be a wreck, but at least this will get you in the right direction01:08
aaron1lol01:08
aaron1yea01:08
geek_Daisuke_Ido: bleh. thats one of the two reasons i keep a few windows systems of various vintages around (one 98 one XP.. else i'm all linux) ;p01:08
Daisuke_Idogeek_: what's messed up is that i have win2k running in vbox *right now*01:09
pc4hola01:09
geek_Daisuke_Ido: does vbox have USB passthrough?01:09
Daisuke_Idobut itunes requires xp, and vbox-ose doesn't do usb passthrough01:09
Daisuke_Idoso a double ouch there01:09
geek_Daisuke_Ido: the former is fixable, the latter, no01:09
Daisuke_Idoi even tried itunes under wine01:09
pc4donde cojo wine01:09
geek_itunes under wine dosen't handle USB right01:09
pc4donde bajo wine01:10
pc4pagina01:10
aaron1any change of my bluetooth motorola headphones working on kubuntu01:10
Daisuke_Idogeek_: so i've noticed :\01:10
geek_Daisuke_Ido: i suppose you could use VMware and get a copy of XP from somewhere... i'd note it dosen't even need to be activated01:11
Daisuke_Idothis is a possibility01:12
geek_or a (ewww) vista preview version01:12
Daisuke_Idobut i'll go for using the mac lab at school to fix it01:12
Daisuke_Idoi will NOT touch vista.01:12
geek_lol01:12
mneptokVista touched me inappropriately.01:16
Daisuke_Idovista touching anything is inapporopriate, except bins and shredders01:20
geek_mneptok: you obviously let it ;p01:21
bdizzleI'm not letting vista touch my /bin01:21
Daisuke_Idoyeah, dding from the flash is a lot quicker than dding TO the flash01:24
geek_lol01:24
geek_did it work?01:24
Daisuke_Idodunno yet01:24
Daisuke_Ido2gb flash, still going01:24
mathieu__kubuntu-kde4 on aa1: #1 :D01:30
Daisuke_Idothat dd is still going01:30
Dr_willisYou did tell it a bs argument?01:31
Daisuke_Idonope01:31
Daisuke_Idobecause i don't know what the original blocksize was01:31
Daisuke_Idoor does that not matter?01:31
Daisuke_Idoif it doesn't matter, i'll be very upset :\01:31
Daisuke_Idobut it's still going01:31
Dr_willisjust telling dd a bs=1024 or somthing argument will double the speed it works at. :) or similer.01:32
Dr_willisit makes it much faster. ;) up to a point.01:32
Daisuke_Idoi'm just hoping it works01:32
Daisuke_Idothough i'm really not very hopeful01:33
Dr_willisIm not sure what the origial problem is.01:33
Daisuke_Idoipod shuffle.  hosed.01:36
Daisuke_Idodded my fiancee's to a backup image01:36
Daisuke_Idodding the image to mine01:36
Daisuke_Idoi don't expect it to work01:36
Dr_willisdont those things have special serial #'s that bought songs get encoded/tagged with?01:36
Dr_willisor am i thinking of some other player/drm?01:37
Daisuke_Idoi use my own tracks01:37
shadowhywinddoes anyone know how to test for bad sectors on a disk?01:37
Dr_willisYep. All it takes it to get burnt ONCE at the apple store.. and you realize its better go buy the real cd and rip. :)01:37
Dr_willisbadblocks command, which can also be ran by the fsck command shadowhywind01:37
shadowhywindDr_willis: that tests the blocks, i want to test sectors (unless they are the same)01:38
Dr_willissectors are in the blocks.. or is it the othe rway... i forget...01:38
geek_Dr_willis: using cds to rip have a lot of advantages over DRMed crap01:39
Dr_willisegads. old skool info here... :) and i cant rember .01:39
geek_like the option to use a lossless format and convert ;p01:39
Daisuke_Idogeek_: yeah, i like choosing my quality01:39
shadowhywindDr_willis: hehe, the reason i am asking i have ran badblocks and all checked out, however useing dban nuke cd it errors out with saying bad sectors01:39
Dr_willisI thought the badblocks command tagged specific blocks as being bad - so they were not used.. dban may be ignoring that info01:40
Dr_willisat least i THINK thats how badblocks works01:40
gkffjcshow do I force rsync to include dot files, it seems to ignore them by default01:49
WalzmynDoes OpenOffice.org have a channel here?01:58
gregoryhi02:00
gregoryi'm using konversation and am trying to add irc.freenode.net02:02
gregorybut i'm getting a lookup error02:02
gregorywhen trying to connect to it02:02
Daisuke_Ido...he was here wasn't he?02:06
aaron1wow alot of people dislike vista02:06
aaron1works like a charm on my system been using it since beta 102:07
Dr_willisYou are one of the lucky then02:07
aaron1lol02:07
Dr_willisIts all about the 'little' stupid annoyances that it does.02:07
aaron1works great on my old system also02:07
aaron1athlon 320002:07
aaron1no problems02:07
Dr_willisYou are one of the lucky ones then02:08
aaron1bet you won't use windows 7 either huh02:08
Dr_willisor unlucky - depending on how you look at  it..02:08
aaron1well if you call loving every feature mce desktop search game explorer live photo sidebar unlucky02:09
Dr_willisthats sor tof a big 'issue' really..  there wont be much choice except TO use windows7, since ms will kill off the older os's to force ptople into using W702:09
aaron1HELL YEA02:09
Dr_willisThe game explore thing dosent work very well for my system. it misses half my games.. and do i really need a 'special' thing to launch games that have icons in the menus...02:09
Dr_willisPlus it came filled with 'demoware' of popcap games. :) that i cant figure out how to remove.02:10
aaron1i have the same problem with my games would have been nice if it was xbox live clone02:10
OmoikaneAnyone have much experience in setting up network printers?02:11
mneptok"Jim, think of something we can put the word 'Game' into the name. Something the kids will like and want."02:11
Dr_williswhich sort of points out  My big issue with Windows -> i feel as if im being treated as some 'cash cow' the companies just want to sell/market more stuff to...02:11
aaron1lol02:11
Dr_willisOmoikane,  i normally use the cups web interface to do that.02:11
mneptok"I KNOW! GAME EXPLORER!"02:11
aaron1M$ is a ass of a company but hey you either love em or have em02:11
mneptok"because, you know, Microsoft products need to use the word 'Explorer' more."02:12
OmoikaneDr_willis Yeah, I'm trying to get my network printer to print but to no avail. I can get it to print via a direct USB connection but using http doesn't seem to work.02:12
aaron1i'm beyond exploring just hope there shit work on my pc lol02:12
mneptok!language aaron102:13
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about language aaron102:13
mneptokbah02:13
mneptok!language > aaron102:13
ubottuaaron1, please see my private message02:13
Dr_willisOmoikane,  i normally use 'smb' or that hp netdirect or whatever its called method. depends on the printer/printserver02:13
aaron1my bad sorry02:13
aaron1crappy*02:13
reidhi02:13
mneptokOmoikane: what make/model of printer? how does it present itself on the network (SMB, http, Appletalk...)02:13
reidi need help please? :(02:14
* reid nub02:14
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aaron1later guys going to play Braid02:14
ReidOk, so I just got Kubuntu Remix and updated it so now i got KDE4.1 i think, but I didn't get all the new KDE apps, and I didn't get retard dragonplayer uninstalled, etc.02:15
aaron1Kubuntu Remix?02:15
Reidyeeps :d02:15
aaron1where can i dl it02:15
aaron1:)02:15
Reiderm, sec02:15
aaron1ty02:16
Reidhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04/release/kubuntu-kde4-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso02:17
Reidnp <302:17
aaron1so what kind of goodies are in this remix02:17
Reidkde 4.0 :o02:17
Omoikanemneptok Brother MFC 724002:18
Reidso can somebody help me please? :[02:18
aaron1just read a revoew02:18
aaron1review* think i'll pass02:18
Reidokies :P02:19
mneptokOmoikane: RJ-45 built-in?02:19
Reidso can somebody help me please?02:19
Omoikanemneptok RJ-45? not sure.02:20
mneptokOmoikane: "network plug"02:20
Dr_willis!kde402:21
ubottuKDE 4.1.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde402:21
Omoikanemneptok oh, it a usb built in the router02:22
ReidCan you help me doc?02:22
Dr_willisReid,  with kde4? no.02:23
Dr_willislike the bot says - Support in #kubuntu-kde402:23
mneptokOmoikane: i doubt it will work at all, then02:23
Omoikanemneptok oh. Why?02:24
Omoikanemneptok should I connect with ethernet?02:24
Reido02:25
Reidty02:25
mneptokOmoikane: i have a Brother laser printer that is built to be networked. it is auto-detected and recognized by Ubuntu without effort. i see no .ppd for the 7240, and it is not even detected. this tells me that it's probably not going to be easy.02:26
mneptokReid: KDE4.1 is not on Hardy02:27
Dr_willischeck cups.org - perhaps to see how well the printer is supported02:27
mneptokReid: you'll need the PPA to get 4.102:27
darwin_is kde 4.1 default on intrepid?02:29
Omoikanemneptok it's a 7420 sorry02:29
mase_workdarwin_: yes02:29
darwin_thank you mase_work02:30
mase_worknp02:30
* Daisuke_Ido yawns02:34
Omoikanemneptok will it still not work?02:34
mneptokOmoikane: no idea. check out http://openprinting.org02:35
devo_ how would i know if someone hacked into my computer???02:36
flaccid_devo_: you may not notice at all02:36
devo_ but how will i know though, that's the thing?02:36
darwin_you'll have to dig through logs.02:37
devo_ like what kind of logs???02:37
flaccid_devo_: you would have to look and know what you are looking for. why do you expect to know?02:37
devo_ oh ok, cuz i think someone has hacked into my computer already that's why i wanna know02:38
darwin_what makes you believe someone hacked you first off...02:38
flaccid_anyway pretty much an off topic topic, but kubuntu comes with no ports open as no services are installed by default, so via network there is no way to get in02:38
flaccid_devo_: well, you kind of answered the question yourself. why do you think someone has hacked you? ..02:38
devo_ cuz the cursor moves by it's self, i can't open up some of my programs that i have on my computer & more02:39
Dr_willisits a ghost!02:39
Dr_willis:)02:39
darwin_more likely something is just wrong with your computer rather than a hacker02:39
flaccid_devo_: well the first 1 we an look at, the other stuff could be anything and could of been done by you02:40
darwin_any hacker worth his salt wouldn't move your mouse :)02:40
devo_ i don't have anything person on my computer, i don't know why someone would hack me that's the thing though02:40
Dr_willistheres 'paranoid' then theres 'Paranoid' then theres... 'TinFoilHat PARANOID' :)02:41
devo_ yeah rite02:41
Daisuke_Idoholy crispy crap on a well-smoked stick02:41
flaccid_devo_: feel free to pastebin netstat -an | grep -i listen; netstat -tap | grep -i estab and i'll have a look to see if someone is on there heh02:41
Daisuke_Idothe dd worked.02:41
Dr_willisive seen where some dust on my mouse can make it mvoe by itself.. (at least it thinks its moving)02:42
devo_ through the terminal?02:42
flaccid_devo_: do it in konsole then paste it into a pastebin02:42
Dr_willisThe pastebinit command will be handy for this task devo_02:42
Dr_willis!info pastebinit02:42
ubottupastebinit (source: pastebinit): command-line pastebin client. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.9-0ubuntu1 (hardy), package size 8 kB, installed size 84 kB02:42
devo_ ok i'll try02:42
Daisuke_Idoi cannot believe this.02:43
Daisuke_Idoit actually worked02:43
Daisuke_Idoi love linux :D02:43
Dr_willisDaisuke_Ido,  Egads!02:43
Dr_willisDaisuke_Ido,  marry it!02:43
Daisuke_Idobut i'm already getting married :\02:43
Daisuke_Idomy real wife would get jealous02:43
Daisuke_Idoand she was laughing enough at me last night when i was refreshing a web page every 5 minutes in anticipation of a game's release02:44
Dr_willisDont do it!02:44
darwin_I've been having this problem with my kubuntu for like 6 months now, nothing i try helps but maybe someone here can help.   whenever i install the nvidia drivers x locks up hard.02:44
Dr_willis:)  its not too late!02:44
* Dr_willis clears the screen befor his wife walks in02:45
Omoikanemneptok couldn't find anything02:45
devo_ flaccid: how do i do the thing that u want me to do, i've been use'n linux for 2 week's so i really don't know that much about terminal command's02:45
jhojanhola02:46
devo_ ok instead of trying to find out if someone has hacked into my computer, how can i make it so that ppl CAN'T hack into my computer???02:47
bdizzlehello jhojan02:47
bdizzleum, use Firestarter, iptables, etc etc02:47
jhojanno ingles02:47
bdizzleespanol?02:47
favro!es02:47
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.02:47
bdizzlegracias favro02:48
favro:)02:48
devo_ oh ok02:48
bdizzlede nada jhojan02:48
Dragnslcrdevo_- have you considered just not running servers that you don't know how to handle?02:48
devo_ but i don't know how to use firestarter though sothat's the thing02:48
bdizzle... install it, set it up, ignore it02:48
jhojanok gracias02:48
devo_ yeah i have thought of that but then again, i wanna try to make my computer virturally unhackable but don't know how to, can anyone help me out???02:49
geek_devo_: switch it off02:49
devo_ what, my computer?02:50
geek_yeah ;)02:50
devo_ i wanna be able to have my computer virurally unhackable while i'm on my computer though that's the the thing02:50
devo_ lol02:50
geek_well keep it offline then ;p02:51
devo_ i don't wanna do that ither02:51
geek_more practically though a nat router isn't a bad start, as is not running any unneeded services02:51
flaccid_devo_: goto the kmenu - system and select konsole. paste the command i gave into konsole and then it will output, select it with your paste and copy it then goto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put it in and then give URL back02:51
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devo_ what's the command again???02:52
flacciddevo_: and as for your second question. linux is secure.02:52
flacciddevo_: scrollback02:52
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flacciddevo_: its [11:42] <flaccid_> devo_: feel free to pastebin netstat -an | grep -i listen; netstat -tap | grep -i estab and i'll have a look to see if someone is on there heh and if you had of listened before i mentioned how now ports are open by default. also everything is hackable. security is an abitrary word02:54
devo_ where does the command start from though???02:54
flaccidnetstat -an | grep -i listen; netstat -tap | grep -i estab02:54
DragnslcrJudging by this conversation, I get the feeling that there's nothing on your computer that anyone would be interested in02:55
flaccidhehe02:56
flaccidand that its probably a faulty mouse :O02:56
* flaccid brb02:57
devo_ everytime i type in the command line it tell's me this02:57
devo_devo@devo-desktop:~$ netstat -an | grep -i listen: netstat -tap | grep -i estab02:57
devo_grep: invalid option -- t02:57
devo_Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]...02:57
devo_Try `grep --help' for more information.02:57
devo_ i don't get it02:58
favrodevo_: I get the same error with that command...02:59
devo_ did i type it in wrong or what does it mean???03:00
devo_ well besides the error thing03:00
DragnslcrDid you copy/paste the command?03:01
Picidevo_: you put a : instead of a ;03:02
favro netstat -an | grep -i listen; netstat -tap | grep -i estab - needs a semicolon after listen03:02
devo_ oh ok i'll try that then03:02
jhojanhttps://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-es03:04
devo_ like this03:04
devo_netsat -an | grep -i listen: netstat -tap | grep -i estab03:04
williamhvkmhola03:04
williamhvkmbuennas noches03:05
williamhvkmespañol???03:05
favro!es03:05
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.03:05
favrodevo_:  netstat -an | grep -i listen; netstat -tap | grep -i estab03:05
devo_ got it03:06
devo_ this is what show's up03:07
devo_devo@devo-desktop:~$ netsat -an | grep -i listen; netsat -tap | grep -i estab03:07
devo_bash: netsat: command not found03:07
devo_bash: netsat: command not found03:07
Picidevo_: netstat, not netsat03:07
devo_ got it03:09
ruththere are actually people herre?03:09
Dragnslcrruth- nope, just a lot of bots03:10
ruthmmmmmmm03:10
devo_ still tell's me bash command not found03:10
Red_WraithHi! I can't believe I forgot this, but, what's the command to list all disks and partitions?03:10
devo_ hhhmmm......03:10
DragnslcrRed_Wraith- from a shell? df is probably what you want03:11
marcus_fdisk -l Red_Wraith03:11
ruthdo the people here help others?03:11
Red_WraithThank you.03:11
marcus_Red_Wraith: Nothing....03:11
flacciddevo_: to prevent typos, in future simply copy and paste the command :)03:11
devo_ yes ppl in here do help out other's03:11
Dragnslcrruth- no, we just abuse clueless people03:11
Red_WraithHmm... And to check free space?03:12
devo_ i tried it wont let me03:12
Dragnslcrdf03:12
ruthcan I sign up for abuse?03:12
flaccidi just copied and pasted the command devo_and it worked fine03:12
Picidevo_: how are you trying?03:12
marcus_Red_Wraith:  df -kh03:12
Red_WraithOh. Okay, thank you very much, both of you.03:12
flacciddevo_: select it in konversation, the press shift+insert to paste it into konsole. i pretty much do this all day here03:12
devo_ i'm just typ'n03:12
ruthguess not03:13
devo_ ok i got something here it is03:14
flaccidhehe03:14
flacciddevo_: i showed you the pastebin before03:15
flaccid!pastebin | devo_03:15
ubottudevo_: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)03:15
flaccidyou can only paste up to 3 lines in this channel ok03:15
devo_ srry about that ppl03:15
marcus_any people instaled Enlightment Desktop ?03:15
devo_ how do i pastebin???03:17
flacciddevo_: please start reading what we advise. ubottu just told you03:17
devo_ ok i'm srry03:18
flacciddevo_: do you not understand?03:21
devo_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/40542/03:22
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devo_damn it not again03:23
devo_ srry about that ppl03:23
devo_ but did u look @ the url that i gave u???03:23
flaccidyes and you only have bittorrent, cups and smtp open/listening03:25
devo_ flaccid03:25
devo_ ok & what does that mean?03:26
flaccidand just connections to bittorrent and web. nothing suspicious there. so you probably have a faulty mouse or needs cleaning and the other problem we can look at one by one03:26
devo_ oh ok03:27
flaccidbecause linux is secure, the best thing you can do is use strong passwords. thats the best advice03:27
devo_ got it, anything else that i should know of?03:29
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flaccidyeah, stop freaking out and making assumptions about being hacked :)03:29
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Brazilian_Boyi need help03:30
devo_ got it03:30
devo_ what's the problem?03:30
Brazilian_Boyman03:30
Brazilian_Boyfrist03:30
Brazilian_Boyi dont talk englhis very well03:30
Brazilian_Boybut03:30
Brazilian_Boyi am new whit linux03:31
Brazilian_Boybut my video was great03:31
devo_ well try ur best, if i don't know the answer then someone else will be able to help u03:31
devo_ i'm new with linux as well so what's up?03:31
Brazilian_Boybut now i started my computer and my resolution donw!03:31
devo_ what kind of graphics card do u have?03:32
Brazilian_Boynvidia03:32
Brazilian_Boygeforce 520003:33
tacosarecoolHello03:33
Brazilian_Boyso...03:33
Brazilian_Boyqhat can i do?03:33
devo_ i also have nvidia tnt2 moldel 64/64 pro03:33
Brazilian_Boywhat03:33
Brazilian_Boywas great03:33
tacosarecoolI'm just wondering something what's the best password manager for linux auto fill and submit or keepass03:34
Brazilian_Boybut today03:34
devo_ i don't know i never have the problem anyone else wanna try to help Brzilian_Boy out???03:34
tacosarecoolI'll try I doubt I know03:34
tacosarecoolBut repost the question anyway03:34
Brazilian_Boyso man03:35
tacosarecoolI'm just wondering something what's the best password manager for linux auto fill and submit or keepass03:36
Brazilian_Boyi will turn of my computer and will put again03:36
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tacosarecoolI'm just wondering something what's the best password manager for linux auto fill and submit or keepass03:41
voodzhi i just bought a sony vaio VGN-FW140E ... during install attempts using live cd i get screwed up graphics glitches all over the screen and the install goes into a blank screen. this is using boot off cd to try it out. does anyone have any idea why this is happening?03:41
voodzi have even tried safe video mode install, i get into the os but there are 1 million mouse cursurs on the screen. and its glitched beyond recognition03:42
snake_i would suggest asking in #ubuntu03:42
voodzk thanks03:43
snake_I definatly wouldent know the answer im fresh over from the fedora side03:44
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devo_  i was woundering is keepassx a good program?03:46
todz hi when trying to nun fsck it stops at Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes and nothing else happens... the fs seems fine when I browse it and such but I'm wondering what could be causing this03:49
flaccidtodz: did you give it a decent amount of time to see if it would progress?03:50
coderipper1983ppal03:51
flacciddevo_: why don't you give it a try. note that kubuntu already uses something similar called kwallet03:51
devo_  really?03:51
todzya I've done a scan of that partition before so I know it should be progressing, and it is giving no indication that it is doing anything03:51
devo_ i didn't know that i guess i'm an idot when it come's to linux & i have been use'n linux for the past 2 to 3 week's now wtf is wrong with me03:52
flacciddevo_: just relax and enjoy it perhaps03:53
flaccidtodz: weird03:53
todzhhe I've been using linux for 5 years and still need to ask questions devo_03:53
Jack3flaccid, you there :D03:53
devo_ yeah i know i was putt'n myself down instead of have'n someone else do it for me  lol03:53
flaccidno im not03:54
Jack3flaccid, hehe can you help me for a minute :p03:54
flaccidalways ask the channel instead of hassling helpers03:54
Jack3flaccid, oh well it was in reference to yesterday03:54
flaccidsure. no reason to ask, just say, it saves a lot of typing for both parties03:55
todzhey your right flaccid it's at the next step, usaully doesn't take anywhere near this long, like it should be totally done a couple times by now03:55
Jack3I changed the linux hdd to be the Master ide boot one, connected directly to the motherboard, and now the xp/vista drive is placed on the pci card. So i reinstalled ubuntu on the main hdd now, using ext3 FS, and it installed grub, but when i start up I now get error 1703:55
flaccidtodz: cool03:55
todzya I just ran it with -n this go so I'm running again to see if it fixes anything03:56
Jack3flaccid, I am guessing something to do with grub configuration or the /etc/fstab03:56
flaccidJack3: and do you know what grub 17 is?03:56
jameswf-homeanyone have any idea why an aiccu tunnel works (routes) on eth1 but not eth003:56
Jack3flaccid, yeah i encounted it a while ago, though i should look it up again03:56
flaccidJack3: negative. grub 17 wouldn't even get up to loading grub entirely...03:56
flaccidJack3: yes you should03:56
flaccidJack3: http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html03:57
flaccidand yeah anyone can help with a grub 17 heh03:57
devo_  where can i find kwallet?03:57
Jack3ah okay, sorry, well it sounds like its a bios configuration problem possibly?03:58
flaccidnope03:58
flaccidwhere does it mention bios?03:58
todzkwallet should be installed by default in kubuntu03:58
flaccid"This error is returned if a device string is recognizable but does not fall under the other device errors."03:58
Jack3flaccid, oh i was reading this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44294503:58
devo_ where can i find it though in kubuntu?03:58
flacciddevo_: err just run the command kwallet or its in the menu somewhere03:59
todzf2 than type kwallet04:00
todzalt+f204:00
devo_ i did & it said can't find04:00
flaccidJack3: doesn't mean they are right04:00
flacciddevo_: are you kde3 or kde4?04:01
todzkwalletmanager04:01
flaccidah yeah my bad sorry04:01
devo_ where can i find what version of kde i have?04:02
todzkwallet kind of work by itself though in kde apps like when I type in a password it asks me, never had to bring it up manually04:02
todzhelp > about kde    in any application04:02
flaccidJack3: do you get to the grub menu or does it go straight to error 17 and if so what else does it say besides error 1704:02
flacciddevo_: kwin --version in konsole or goto an about box in any kde app04:03
devo_ kde 3.5.904:03
devo_ is what i have04:03
flaccidok have fun then with kwallet04:03
Jack3flaccid, no unforunately just says Loading Grub, error 17, nothing else04:03
devo_ kwallet isn't installed though that's the thing cuz i even did try to run it by alt+F2 & it said could not run04:04
flaccidok. you may have an incorrect device.map. ie. you moved the disks around and now the device.map is wrong04:04
todztype kwalletmanager04:05
flacciddevo_: i gave you the wrong command. kwallet is installed by default04:05
Jack3flaccid, like I said I reinstalled ubuntu..04:06
devo_ ok but i don't find it though that's the thing04:06
Jack3flaccid, anyways according to device map my ubuntu hdd is hd 4,0, which seems wrong to me04:06
flaccidfix it up then04:06
flacciddevo_: its a wallet icon in your system tray04:06
devo_ i don't see it there iether04:07
flacciddevo_: did you run the command that todz keeps on advising over and over ?04:07
devo_ no cuz i didn't see it i'm srry04:08
todzor it should be under setting in the KMenu04:08
todz*settings04:08
Jack3flaccid, okay i fixed device.map, I put dev/sda (my linux hdd) as hdd0, and i changed menu.list to have all the ubuntu entries point to hdh0,004:09
Jack3flaccid, should i reboot and test now?04:09
flaccidyeah i guess so04:09
Jack3flaccid, same error but  i had an idea04:12
Jack3according to my bios my DVD writer is detected as the master slave, should I try putting the dvd writer as slave and the hdd as masteR?04:12
flaccidhard disks should be masters anyway04:12
flaccidin preference04:12
devo_ yes i keep do'n the command of alt+F2 then i type in kwallet then hit enter & it tell's me can't find04:13
devo_ so i don't know what else to do04:13
flacciddevo_: we have told you that is not the command about 4 times now04:13
flacciddevo_: i will give it to you again: kwalletmanager04:13
devo_ ok i'll try it04:14
devo_ ok nvm that did work once again i'm an idot when it comes to linux hahahahahaha  man i suck @ linux04:14
flacciddevo_: just try to read and pay attention more thats all04:15
devo_ will do now how to i use kwalletmanager?04:16
flacciddevo_: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdeutils/kwallet/index.html04:16
devo_thnx04:17
flaccidnp04:17
reboot08hey04:19
reboot08whats the command to set irc chan to public?04:19
reboot08if op04:19
flaccidreboot08: this is kubuntu support channel04:20
reboot08k04:20
reboot08ty04:20
jameswf-homeipv6 anyone?04:20
todzheh flaccid you seem to be doing alot of work in here04:20
flaccidthats what im here for04:20
todzdo you have any computer related training?04:21
illmortalhey uhm.. flaccid? How come when I click on my slave drive... it tells me permission denied? o.o; It has never done that before!04:22
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voroniHi, i don't know what happen after search a place in google earth, the program close by itself, what's that please help!!04:22
flaccidtodz: i did some uni, otherwise its all self initiated/from internet like here04:22
flaccidillmortal: maybe its mounted wrongly or something. go check it out disks & filesystems or mount04:23
todzah, ya I have a degree in this computer stuff04:23
todzbut ya I learned most linux still by myself, we had a few classes in it though04:23
voroniplease someone help me i really need it!04:25
illmortalpermission denied on mounting =\04:25
todzyou have to set it to allow non root to mount it or mount it as root04:25
flaccid!ask | voroni04:26
ubottuvoroni: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)04:26
illmortalwhich is preferably done via konsole? :X04:26
flaccidillmortal: its the users option on the entry in fstab. this can be done in disks & filesystems as well04:26
voroniok Hi, Google Earth close by itself when i start a search! help please thenks!04:27
todzdoes it close by itself all the time?04:28
voroniyes04:28
flaccidvoroni: google earth is closed source. not much you can do. you can run it from konsole and see what messages it spits out when it dies04:28
voroniok04:28
voroniit says permission denied04:29
flaccidvoroni: pastebin the whole output please04:30
illmortalhm... seems when I restarted last time it forgot to mount my drive. restarted x and it mounted :)04:31
mr---t-!paste04:32
ubottupastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic)04:33
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nergarhello04:35
nergari downloaded kde4.1 from launchpad, but I cant open Kword04:35
nergarwhere can I create a bug or get help?04:35
nergardaniel@nergar-lap:~$ /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kword04:35
nergar/usr/lib/kde4/bin/kword: error while loading shared libraries: libkdecore.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory04:35
mr---t-!kde404:35
ubottuKDE 4.1.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde404:35
nergarthanks04:36
ArtfulI've installed new KDE4 distro, but had to manually add Konversation 1.0.1 I can't seem to grab 1.104:37
Artfulas I understand it, Konversation is still for KDE3.5 is there any issue running on 4.1?04:38
Jack3flaccid, ugh stil nothing, got the dvd writer as CH0Slave and ubuntu hdd as ch0 master, still erro 17 :(04:38
flaccidArtful: no issue and this is not the chan for kde4 support, see topic04:39
flaccidJack3: i guess you need to compare sudo fdisk -l with device.map and make sure the order lines up or whatever04:39
Jack3flaccid, okay04:40
Artfulaha, thanks..04:40
darwin_where's the administrator button in kde 4.1 system settings?   seems like there should be one...04:42
Jack3flaccid, whoa i just noticed something, I think when I installed kubuntu this time grub completely installed to the wrong hdd04:42
Jack3probably because of the slave thing, anyways, I see that under fdisk -l linux does not have a boot mark04:42
flaccidJack3: yeah. um who knows what you have done heh :O04:43
Jack3flaccid, you think it would be a good idea to reinstall now that everything is configured in the right order?04:43
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flacciddarwin_: this is not the chan for kde4, see topic for correct channel04:43
darwin_thank you flaccid04:43
flaccidi'd just fix up device.map04:43
psycohey guys, kubuntu wont boot up so I used a live cd. I need to reinstall grub but when I try Adept says it can't commit changes04:43
flaccid!grubfix | psyco also if you are just reinstalling the grub pkg then do it from konsole to see the errors04:44
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about grubfix04:44
psycohttp://pastebin.com/m251a0deb    error04:45
Jack3flaccid, well the device.map currently shows hd0 as /dev/sda not sure what you think i should fix up?04:45
flaccid!fixgrub04:45
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto04:45
flaccidJack3: pastebin sudo fdisk -l and the device.map and i'll look04:45
flaccidpsyco:  thats fine, just means you have not disabled the cdrom apt repos in Adept04:47
psycoflaccid: the sudo grub stuff would work, except I removed grub beacuse I wanted to reinstall but it only got to the remove part before the error04:47
psycooh ok04:47
Jack3flaccid, http://pastebin.com/m49f3d63804:48
flaccidJack3: you believe the bios order of the disks is wat you have in device.map now04:51
Jack3flaccid, well i know the linux one is correct, but the others I am unsure, is there a way to tell ttheir model number?04:53
Jack3otherwise i cant really compare it to the bios for the hard drives that are the same size in gb04:53
flaccidanyone know how to get fdisk to list in bios order?04:56
Jack3flaccid, i see the only ones I will have trouble with are the two 120gbs04:57
Jack3does that disk identifier tell me anything?04:57
flacciddisk identifier?04:57
Jack3in fdisk -l each disk has a disk identifier like 0xNumBers04:58
flaccidah im not sure what that is04:58
Jack3flaccid, nevermind i found out that hdparm -i /dev/hde shows the serial/model number :D04:59
flaccidJack3: cool. so we just have to work out the order and get it correct05:01
Jack3okay Ive got the bios order, ill pastebin it so i dont lose it05:01
flaccidk05:02
flaccidthis stuff is so much easier in something like freebsd which uses bios names for the disk devices instead of logical ones05:02
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pteagueany ideas?  http://pastebin.com/m4c7474f505:03
Jack3flaccid, heh i wish :P05:03
Jack3flaccid, http://pastebin.com/m1391088305:03
flaccidJack3: sorry that helps us how?05:05
illmortalanyone know if KBFX is broken? o.o;05:09
LoCaLMaChInEwow got my pc working again what a relief but then when i thought everything was great I got kicked out of the ubuntu channel05:10
flaccidJack3: cat /proc/diskstats please05:11
Jack3flaccid, thats the physical bios list05:11
flaccidooo can i have a looksy05:11
LoCaLMaChInEI was  having trouble last night trying to get into the ubuntu channel now I got kicked out05:11
flaccidLoCaLMaChInE: #ubuntu-ops if you want to get unbanned05:12
Jack3flaccid, its http://pastebin.com/m1391088305:12
LoCaLMaChInEflaccid type that in the channel box05:12
flaccidJack3: i was after cat /proc/diskstats05:13
Jack3flaccid, oh okay, one sec05:13
flaccidLoCaLMaChInE: yeah /join #ubuntu-ops05:13
LoCaLMaChInEgotcha thanx appreciate that05:13
flaccidJack3: well you show me the lables but i don't have any way to match them up with the fdisk entries05:13
Jack3flaccid, Hdd size05:13
flaccidok i look05:14
flaccidJack3: eg. raid 2 ultra D2 WDC WD1200JB-00G <--- i don't see a size05:14
Jack3flaccid, oh sorry, its in the model05:14
Jack3wd120=120gb05:14
Jack3wd2500=250gb05:14
tacosarecoolIs there a way to reset my kde wallet password?05:15
Jack3flaccid, you still want cat /proc/diskstats?05:15
flaccidyes05:15
tacosarecoolHow do I reset my kde wallet password?05:16
tacosarecoolAnyone?05:17
flaccidi someone knows they will respond, no need to say Anyone?05:17
Jack3flaccid, not sure if i can get you that haha, my internet isnt working on the live cd anymore05:17
LoCaLMaChInEflaccid I am in the ubuntu ops rooom now what05:17
Jack3LoCaLMaChInE, tell them you got banned and need to get unbanned please, and wait for a response?05:18
LoCaLMaChInEok05:18
tacosarecoolflaccid05:19
tacosarecoolflaccid05:20
flaccidstop that05:20
tacosarecoolOh sorry05:20
devo_ how can one convert jpg to png in linux?05:20
tacosarecoolGimp05:20
tacosarecoolUnder graphics05:20
tacosarecoolBut is there a way to reset my kde wallet password05:21
devo_ thnx05:21
tacosarecoolyour welcome05:21
Jack3tacosarecool, you probably shouldn't ask three times.05:21
tacosarecoolSorry05:21
flaccidtacosarecool: don't repeat please05:23
LoCaLMaChInElooks like I am not getting a response05:23
flaccidtacosarecool: google also finds the answer to your question pretty fast..05:23
Jack3LoCaLMaChInE, you gotta be patient05:24
flaccid!kwallet | tacosarecool05:24
ubottutacosarecool: kwallet is a subsystem that provides a convenient and secure way to manage all your passwords. More information is available at http://help.ubuntu.com/community/kwallet05:24
LoCaLMaChInEur right patience05:24
LoCaLMaChInEI love the name tacosarecool05:24
flaccidi havnt been banned for a while. from experience you could be waiting hours sometimes05:25
Jack3flaccid, okay so I edited my device.map to make sure it is in the same order as the bios config, and for the menu.lst, should it be (hd0,0) ?05:25
Jack3flaccid, and yes hd0 is the /dev/sda the linux hdd05:25
LoCaLMaChInEflaccid don't tell me that05:25
Jack3haha05:26
Jack3flaccid, well even after editing device map and rebooting, I am still getting error 17, I am wondering if maybe I should reinstall grub05:28
flaccidJack3: yeps05:28
flaccidJack3: no idea sorry05:28
LoCaLMaChInEburritosareyummy05:28
Jack3flaccid, one thing though, I was looking at a grub reinstal thread and it said from the grub prompt do /boot/grub/stage1   , it returned hd(4), even after i edited the devicemap... that seems wrong no?05:29
flaccidJack3: you need a grub expert or to research more perhaps. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945  may help05:29
LoCaLMaChInEhas anyone ever deleted xorg server05:30
flaccidJack3: you did that from grub prompt in livecd ?05:30
Jack3flaccid, yes05:30
flaccidwell it would of booted the device.map on the livecd... hd(4) suggests the fdisk order is correct05:31
Jack3flaccid, oh hmm, i think i might mnt and chroot into the kubuntu installation and see what grub returns then05:32
discombobulated i downloaded firefox from the site, i click on it and it won't run. anyone know why?05:33
p_quarlesdiscombobulated, any particular reason you won't use the Ubuntu package for Firefox?05:34
discombobulatedi just need a portable version. will the dl'ed one act as a portable one?05:35
p_quarlesyes, we got that05:35
p_quarles^ disregard05:35
flacciddiscombobulated: there is #firefox also you should run it from konsole to see the problem05:35
p_quarlesdiscombobulated, it can; did you untar it?05:35
tacosarecoolLol I just had to delete .kwl05:36
tacosarecoolThanks05:36
discombobulatedyes, i untarred it. i googled "portable firefox" + linux and it seems there is no portable firefox officially for linux so i thought it wouldn't work05:36
Jack3flaccid, okay so after chrooting in, I find that running /boot/grub/stage1 shows (hd4,0) and it should be (hd0,0)  anything I can do?05:38
p_quarlesdiscombobulated, the portable edition of Firefox is a Windows program; but the Linux binary from Mozilla is a standalone app, so is "portable" in a sense05:38
p_quarlesdiscombobulated, that said, it's not part of Kubuntu, and isn't really on-topic here05:38
LoCaLMaChInEI hate kubuntu no offense05:38
dwidmanngood for you :)05:39
Jack3LoCaLMaChInE, why would you say that in a #kubuntu channel?05:39
discombobulatedp_quarles, good enough. i'm on vista atm so i forgot the exact problem i had but thanks05:39
LoCaLMaChInEstupid me but I say it because my pos comp wouldn't work with it05:39
LoCaLMaChInEother than that that was my only beef05:39
dwidmannLoCaLMaChInE: shouldn't you hate the pos comp then?05:39
discombobulatedLoCaLMaChInE, that's not likely because of kde05:39
LoCaLMaChInEthat too05:39
flaccidJack3: i guess (hd4)   /dev/sda05:40
dwidmannYou don't have to be anal or anything, but just picking out something reasonably compatible with linux goes a long way LoCaLMaChInE05:40
dwidmannLoCaLMaChInE: the choosier you are the more luck you will have.05:40
discombobulatedi have a love/hate affair with linux as i do windows. vista pissed me off today. i started using onboard and took my sound card out and get the register vista crap05:40
LoCaLMaChInEwell kde was sort of giving me problems but for some odd reason my hdd went sour so I guess ur right my comp05:41
Jack3flaccid, not anymore remember? hd0=/dev/sda05:41
flaccidJack3: im saying thats what it should be in the device.map05:41
LoCaLMaChInEwell I need another motherboard for starters but my bank is broke05:41
flaccidso it connects. put it on first line05:41
flaccidi can't say im now this grub stuff indepth either Jack305:42
Jack3flaccid, I'm confused, the bios order has /dev/sda as hd0,005:42
flaccidmaybe it doesn't get registered that way. yes im confused too. maybe your bios puts it in a dif order05:42
LoCaLMaChInEyeah I heard vista was buggy05:42
flaccid!ot | LoCaLMaChInE05:43
ubottuLoCaLMaChInE: #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!05:43
LoCaLMaChInEoh ok was commenting on the vista comment05:43
discombobulatedto be fair, it's not like anyone else is talking and he's using valuable screen space with people who have questions regarding kubuntu05:44
flaccidthis channel is for giving support or asking for it in respect to kubuntu, everything else goes in the off topic channel05:44
jameswf-homeon topic anyone have any idea wht aiccu will route over eth1 (wirelsee) but not eth0 (wired) ni iptables...05:44
LoCaLMaChInEI had some bad luck with kde but I will give it a shot next time when I have a descent rig05:45
flaccidjameswf-home: try ##networking and/or #iptables05:45
discombobulatedLoCaLMaChInE, maybe you should try a lightweight window manager05:45
jameswf-homeflaccid: thats a cop out and since iptables and networking are both part of the kubuntu kernel build this is the place05:46
LoCaLMaChInEubottu am I being off topic some how05:46
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)05:46
jameswf-homeflaccid: had i added them to the base os that would be correct05:46
mr---t-!ask | LoCaLMaChInE05:47
ubottuLoCaLMaChInE: Please don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)05:47
flaccidjameswf-home: i was giving you additional options. kubuntu doesn't come with a firewall installed so not many people here can help you. if there was they would of helped you already which is why i suggested those channel. its not a cop out because this is all free support that you are not paying for05:47
LoCaLMaChInEyeah need something great for kde don't get me wrong I love kde just my dust box  won't support05:47
flaccidjameswf-home: i didn't say you were off-topic.05:47
jameswf-homeflaccid that is incorrect Kubuntu comes with iptables though if you read the question was not a firewall question05:47
flaccidyes but no rules and you mentioned iptables. anyway complaining doesn't fix anything does it05:48
p_quarlescalling iptables a firewall is kinda like calling a hunk of molten steel a padlock :)05:48
jameswf-homeflaccid: then stop if you have nothing valid to say dont say anything05:49
LoCaLMaChInEHeres a question does anyone have a problem with me being here05:49
p_quarlesunless it's shaped into something useful, it doesn't do anything05:49
jameswf-hometroll05:49
flaccidjameswf-home: i've been giving you valid resopnses. like i said complaining doesn't fix your problem.05:49
jameswf-homep_quarles: iptables is the ultimate padlock a base deny will keep everyone(including the user) out :)05:50
discombobulatedjameswf-home, he's not a troll. he's here a lot and usually very helpful. if you have a question, complaining won't get the answer05:51
jameswf-homelike a safe with glass interlocks05:51
jameswf-homediscombobulated: again if you have nothing constructive keep it to your self.05:52
LoCaLMaChInEwhere can I get a good motherboard that will support kde or kubuntu05:52
discombobulatedjameswf-home, back to you05:52
jameswf-homeLoCaLMaChInE: Gigabyte and most AMD ae good with linux05:52
jameswf-home*are05:53
LoCaLMaChInEreally what about asus05:53
Jack3jameswf-home, it would be wise not to be a dick to the people whom you ask help from.05:53
discombobulatedLoCaLMaChInE, i'm using an ip35 pro, compatible with vista, xp, linux, and osx. very flexible and good overclocker05:53
jameswf-homeJack3: I am only being a dick to those whom arent helpful05:53
jameswf-home:)05:53
LoCaLMaChInEyeah thats what I talking about05:53
LoCaLMaChInEdiscom. amd?05:54
discombobulatedLoCaLMaChInE, intel based05:54
flaccidasus is good and most will work fine if they are new etc.05:54
LoCaLMaChInEok how much u pau05:55
LoCaLMaChInEpay05:55
dwidmannLoCaLMaChInE: most desktops will work okay with linux, laptops are the devil.05:55
discombobulatedi paid $160?05:55
Jack3flaccid, is there anyway to tel how the kubuntu installer enumerates hdd's? at the end of in the install it has an advance doption that shows install boot loader checked and it says instlal to (hd0) , how do i know what hd0 is?05:55
LoCaLMaChInEnot bad thats about average. with or without processor05:56
p_quarlesI'm on a laptop that I paid $180 for; it's old and a bit slow, but runs Linux fine; some used shops will let you try out a live disk if you ask05:56
discombobulatedLoCaLMaChInE, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681312703005:56
flaccidJack3: good question i guess you could work it out if you went to a tty. really not my forte this stuff05:56
LoCaLMaChInEyeah newegg is great05:57
LoCaLMaChInEgood stuff05:57
Jack3flaccid, no idea on that heh05:57
flaccidJack3: do you have ttys ie. ctrl+alt+f205:57
discombobulatedp35 is about $100 now, w/out cpu05:57
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jameswf-homeso anyone here who know their way around outside a GUI ?05:57
LoCaLMaChInEI had some issues with the hard drive earlier it was dying05:57
discombobulatedJack3, check your bios. it will be the first hdd to boot, i assume05:58
Jack3flaccid, I am using the installer from the booted livecd, so I still have konsole access etc05:58
flaccidjameswf-home: yes05:58
LoCaLMaChInEI may look into that I need another mobo05:58
Jack3discombobulated, if only it were that easy05:58
jameswf-homeI find hat unlikely anyone else...05:59
jameswf-home*that05:59
flaccidJack3: tbh im pretty confused on this stuff now05:59
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LoCaLMaChInEthis maybe off topic but does anyone have wine?05:59
jameswf-homewow ok05:59
Jack3wow that jameswf was a retard haha05:59
flaccidyou get em06:00
discombobulatedJack3, i was actually wonderin the same thing a few days ago when installing kubuntu. i still don't know which one it installed on, lol. i'll have to toy with the bios. i got 4 hdd's and 10 partitions06:00
discombobulatedLoCaLMaChInE, yes06:00
LoCaLMaChInEhow is it06:00
LoCaLMaChInEgood bad06:00
Jack3discombobulated, eek, my problem is a big pain because im using the single motherboard IDE channel + a PCI Ide card with 2 more ide channels for a total of 5 hard drives06:00
discombobulatedLoCaLMaChInE, well, i'm running steam games off of it. HL2 runs fine06:01
flaccidJack3: tried #grub or ##grub ?06:01
LoCaLMaChInEreally hmm I was considering that too I heard of a media center for linux u tried that06:01
discombobulatedJack3, to make it easy for me with lots of drives, i just take them all out and run the one i'm installing linux on06:02
Jack3flaccid, yes unfortunately no response as of yet06:02
Jack3discombobulated, Well I also have vista and XP installed on the other hdd06:02
discombobulatedLoCaLMaChInE, no, haven't tried it06:02
flaccidLoCaLMaChInE: take your ramblings to #kubuntu-offtopic please06:02
LoCaLMaChInEok just wondering if it worked or not read up on it06:03
discombobulatedjack3, you could set them up in your grub menu later06:03
flacciddiscombobulated: device.map needs to be correct and work first06:03
Jack3flaccid, well i am going to just reinstall and pray it works :p06:03
flaccidJack3: maybe only put one entry in the device.map for the boot disk and thats it so ignores the others06:03
discombobulatedflaccid, oh, wasn't aware06:04
flaccidJack3: or maybe chrooting and doing grub-update or reinstall might work, either way good luck, sorry i couldn't help fix06:04
Jack3flaccid, no no thanks, you've helped a lot, I have a feeling this might do it, maybe :p06:05
discombobulatedso what's grub-update do? it sees all drives and auto-configures? if so, it's what i was looking for yesterday but i already got them manually set up06:05
flaccidJack3: yeah cool. i was thinking this before but then read on the grub manual how it has no idea how to create a device.map so maybe the dpkg scripts do it, not sure06:05
LoCaLMaChInEif I was to update to another version of ubuntu lets say kubuntu new version without torrents how do I do that06:06
flacciddiscombobulated: see man update-grub06:06
flaccid!upgrade | LoCaLMaChInE06:06
ubottuLoCaLMaChInE: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes06:06
flaccidLoCaLMaChInE: you can't upgrade via torrents.06:06
LoCaLMaChInEdo I sense a little hostility from flaccid06:06
discombobulatedflaccid, i'll remember it. i'm on vista atm. mythtv pissed me off and i got to have my olympics06:07
flaccidi smell a troll06:07
LoCaLMaChInEI am not a pro06:07
flaccidLoCaLMaChInE: please goto #kubuntu-offtopic if you want ramble06:07
LoCaLMaChInEI am still sort of new to this06:07
* p_quarles seconds flaccid's request06:07
* claydoh thirds it06:08
discombobulatedLoCaLMaChInE, irc?06:08
* Jack3 quadruples it06:08
LoCaLMaChInEam I doing something wrong here I need to know06:08
LoCaLMaChInEdoes someone have a clash with me with my questions or06:08
flaccidLoCaLMaChInE: only talk if you need help with something kubuntu specific otherwise don't talk06:09
discombobulatedLoCaLMaChInE, not wrong, just inconvenient if i had to say. i usually don't mind offtopic chat myself though06:09
flaccidLoCaLMaChInE: you are not even on kubuntu so ...06:09
discombobulatedif the place is busy with people needing real help with kubuntu, wouldn't be a good time for offtopic chat06:09
LoCaLMaChInEflaccid I am trying to have a conversation that is related to linux which includes kubuntu06:10
claydohwe have plennty of channels for off topic stuff06:10
mr---t-this place is not for conversations it's for questions06:10
claydoh#kubuntu-offtopic is perfect for that06:10
LoCaLMaChInEwell I am not trying  to have a conversation but questions related to linux which is why I am here06:11
flaccidLoCaLMaChInE: don't do it here06:11
p_quarlesLoCaLMaChInE, off-topic chatter is considered rude because people idle here, waiting for support questions06:11
p_quarleswhen you activate the channel for non-support stuff, you are alerting people to stuff they don't necessarily want to hear06:11
p_quarlesit's like telephone marketing -- that's why people are getting irked06:12
LoCaLMaChInEapparently I am off topic but I am not I have had some issues and trying to resolve with kubuntu06:12
mr---t-!ask06:12
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely answer. :-)06:12
flaccidplease don't make me get an operator06:12
Jack3LoCaLMaChInE, you seem to be trolling06:12
bazhangLoCaLMaChInE, join #freenode06:12
LoCaLMaChInEyes I know I am asking for help06:12
Jack3haha06:12
flaccidLoCaLMaChInE: last warning.06:13
mr---t-specific kubuntu help?06:13
LoCaLMaChInEyes06:13
LoCaLMaChInE:-[06:19
Jack3ahh he left the buildin06:24
Jack3flaccid, haha same error :'(06:25
Jack3flaccid, though I think i shall boot in the livecd and double check that device.map is correct06:25
illmortalwhat program do you use to change login splash?06:25
flaccidyeah that error doesn't tell us much does it Jack306:25
Jack3flaccid, haha no, it makes me rather upset! :X06:26
flaccidillmortal: its in system settings06:26
illmortalo.o;06:26
flaccid'Splash Screen' :)06:26
illmortalappearance?06:26
illmortal<,< I don't see "splash screen" :X06:27
flaccidillmortal: you are on kde3?06:27
illmortalyar :(06:28
flaccidits definately there in kde3 in general tab06:28
illmortalgeneral? k06:28
flaccidyou could also try kcontrol06:28
Jack3flaccid, okay, im convinced grub is installing to the wrong hdd, fdisk -l shows that /dev/sda1 is sill not marked as boot06:28
illmortalunder "look&feel" there's only, "appearance, desktop, window behavior, and notifications"06:29
flaccidillmortal: hmm under look and feel i have Splash Screen as well06:30
flaccidtry kcontrol i guess06:30
illmortalk :)06:30
illmortalah it was in add/remove, just installed it :)06:31
flaccidillmortal: which pkg?06:32
illmortalksplash06:32
illmortalsplash manager06:33
flaccidah i didn't mention that because the desc. was "the KDE splash screen" and not kde splash admin..06:33
illmortali see06:34
Jack3flaccid, give me luck :p I just reinstalled grub to hd4 (for some reason it still recognizes hd4 as my linux partition06:35
illmortalhm.. apparently I need a plugin called, "moodin"06:35
Jack3flacid, OMG IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:36
flaccidJack3: um i assumed that thats where you had it installed (besides the mbr on first disk)06:36
flaccidum yeah i would assume it would now06:36
flaccidi didn't know that you installed it wrong place06:36
Jack3I didnt know i did eitehrh06:36
flaccidanyway nice job sir!06:37
Jack3well i mean one would assume your master ide channel should be hd0 no?06:37
flaccidwell thats how i thought bios would handle it..06:37
Jack3hence why we redid device.map... i duno, it works and shows winxp/win06:37
Jack3im happy , thanks for the help man06:37
flaccidcan you show me your device.map and fdisk -l and the cat /proc/diskstats when you booted in Jack3 ?06:38
Jack3yeah06:38
flaccidhey np, we both learn from this ..06:38
Jack3also looks like i will have to do some fixing on the vista/xp installations, both give errors when starting :P06:38
flaccidyea probably the boot.ini on their behalf if it does launch from grub, otherwise probably bootloader +1 etc.06:39
Jack3flaccid, shoot me haha06:39
flaccidboot.ini uses bios locations basically iirc06:39
* flaccid gets out a gun06:39
flaccid*bang*06:39
Jack3when i loaded ubuntu... Error 17: cannot mount selected partition06:39
Jack3never celebrate until you know it works06:40
Jack3:'(06:40
flaccidyeah but now you can do find stage1.. and then 'e' and make sure its the same location..06:40
Jack3flaccid, i believe i did the find stage1 to get to this point no?06:41
Jack3or do you mean something different?06:41
flacciddepends if you are talking about the booting the fs where /boot/grub is installed or a different one..06:42
Jack3flaccid, i basically used the livecd to chroot into the installation, did the find stage 1 command, and then installed to hd406:42
Jack3now i do see a post that details the error i get06:43
Jack3they say its something to do with menu.list06:43
flaccidyes thats correct. all along i assume that you had installed grub's userland onto the correct fs/partition which is not what happened. my point is that if you want to boot that same fs which has linux on it then the entry in menu.list must have the correct location which is probably hd(4,0) or hd(4,1) ..06:44
Jack3oh koay06:45
Jack3okay06:45
flaccidJack3: im talking about        root            (hd4,0)   in the grub entry (which is the first directive) after the title06:46
flaccidor it could be 4,1.. .i lost your paste so not sure if swap is first or not..06:46
illmortalOne last question for the night, flaccid! How do you change the theme of the cursor? :X06:48
flaccidillmortal: system settings - keyboard & mouse | mouse | cursor theme06:48
flaccidmy g/f is home i have to cook dinner, so cyas later06:49
Jack3flaccid, im a little lost again, I am following a guide where i chroot into the linux partition, edit device.map to reflect the actual bios boot sequence, and then run grub --device-map=device.map and then type root (hd0,0) but it says it does not exist06:50
Jack3okay, see ya06:50
illmortaldamn you're good06:50
illmortalthanks flaccid... have a good one bro :D06:50
flaccidJack3: thats not what you should do. its simply a matter of changing root() on the entry to the correct spot. you got to grub with your new device.map06:52
flaccidanyway experiment i'll bbl06:52
illmortalhm... anyone know if there's a special way to install a log in theme other than system settings?... It still uses the default one =\07:03
Jack3flaccid, i got it working :)07:09
abby87hello my soundcard is not playing any sound..i'm using kubuntu-kde4..alsamixer is opening properly too still no sound07:13
abby87any idea?07:13
flaccidJack3: was it just the root entry07:13
flaccidabby87: wrong channel for kde4, see topic07:13
flaccid!changethemes | illmortal07:14
ubottuillmortal: To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy.  Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubottu xfce-themes07:14
abby87ooh ok thanx07:14
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illmortallol thanks flaccid :)07:15
v6lurwhat exactly does it mean & how can i "resolve manually":07:15
v6lurExamining /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d.07:15
v6lurrun-parts: executing /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/dkms07:15
v6lur/etc/init.d/dkms_autoinstaller: line 82: /var/lib/dkms/nvidia/173.14.09/source/dkms.conf: No such file or directory07:15
v6lurnvidia: Multiple versions in DKMS. Unsure what to do. Resolve manually.07:15
flaccid!pastebin | v6lur07:16
ubottuv6lur: pastebin is a service to post large texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com (be sure to give the URL of your paste - see also the #kubuntu channel topic)07:16
flaccidv6lur: what are you trying to achieve?07:17
v6lurstandard apt-get update && apt-get upgrade07:17
Jack3flaccid, i actually followed this post, which first i redid device.map to follow the bios order, secdonly under chroot i  ran sudo grub --device-map=device.map and then ran find /boot/grub/stage1, it returend (hd0,0) this time i typed root (hd0,0) then setup (hd0) then i went into menu.list and made sure the ubuntu partitions were now pointing towards hd0,007:18
v6lurthat is, updating worked ok, but using latest kernel X doesn't start07:19
v6lurlatest is 2.6.24-21, using 2.6.24-20 things work07:20
flaccidJack3: fair enough07:20
v6lurobviously has something to do with nvidia driver, but what wxactly?07:20
Jack3flaccid, though now i gotta go figure how to fix the vista and xp installations :P07:20
dwidmannv6lur: that sounds like sufficient reason to file a bug report, and to keep and run the old kernel07:21
dwidmannwait, v6lur, you might just need to recompile the nvidia driver07:21
dwidmannv6lur: did you install it by hand?07:21
flaccidv6lur: did you google the errors?07:21
v6luri havent compiled nvidia driver, just installed with envy07:22
flaccid!envy | v6lur07:22
ubottuv6lur: envyng is an updated version of the *UNSUPPORTED* envy package. It is now part of the ubuntu universe repository (envyng-gtk OR envyng-qt) we suggest you use envyng if every other (official/supported) method fails! it can have various results from works, to fails!!!  if you want the very latest drivers from the manufacturer you use them at your own risk07:22
v6lurflaccid: yes, gives two results, both in italian07:22
v6lursorry, envy-ng it was. not envy07:22
flaccida lot of people avoid envy for these kinds of reasons07:22
dwidmannv6lur: maybe alberto hasn't repackaged the drivers for the newer kernel yet or something07:23
dwidmannThat was his name right, alberto milone, or something like that07:23
v6lurok, i see07:23
dwidmannanywho, he packages updated versions of the nvidia driver and keeps them in a third party repository. Maybe it hasn't been updated yet.07:24
v6lurcould/would installing latest driver from nvidia's site help?07:24
flaccidv6lur: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkms/+bug/25075707:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 250757 in dkms "Old dkms modules are not removed when upgrading fglrx" [Undecided,Fix released]07:24
dwidmannv6lur: yes.07:24
flaccidand i'd say according to the bug report that sounds the likely reason07:25
dwidmannv6lur: you'll want to use envy to purge all versions that are presently installed first07:25
illmortalflaccid i get errors when I run sudo kcontrol: http://pastebin.ca/118502507:25
flaccidillmortal: never use sudo for gui apps07:26
illmortalhm...07:26
dwidmannillmortal: use kdesudo instead07:27
illmortalk07:27
v6lurflaccid, dwidmann, thanks07:27
flaccidillmortal: that link doesn't load in two browsers of mine07:27
illmortalo.o; it's basically a permissions error right after i type my password but kdesudo did the trick so far :p07:28
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flaccidyes, this is why kdesudo was made :)07:29
illmortalhm.. kcontrol lacks the option for login theme?07:30
dwidmannillmortal: advanced tab, sytem category, login manager07:32
illmortalIn KDE Control Center?07:32
dwidmannwait, I was thinking system settings, oops07:32
dwidmannillmortal: type login in the filter07:33
illmortallol yeah in system settings it doesn't apply the new theme (bug) it sticks to default07:33
flaccidillmortal: its the same as system settings 'Splash Screen' they use the same kmod snapins07:33
flaccidillmortal: you talking about the kde login splash dialog or the boot usplash one?07:33
illmortallogin... there's the login screen, when you click log in, then you get a boot splash, right? o,o;07:34
dwidmannillmortal: oh, kcontrol and system settings use the same kcmshell modules07:34
illmortaleh... the login screen is the default screen while the splash theme is different.07:36
illmortali have a full theme that should implement onto the login screen then the splash screen afterwards07:36
illmortalah found it, KDM theme manager. Gonna log out now and test it o.o;07:41
illmortalbah! It's official... Kubuntu has a bug that doesn't allow to change login screen.07:43
dwidmannlongstanding bug if I do remember correctly07:45
p_quarlesdwidmann, you do remember correctly :)07:45
wordi have an alc885 card...and it's using the alc882 driver..how do i fix that?07:45
illmortallol why didn't ya just tell meh! lol07:45
dwidmannword: is it broken?07:46
worddwidmann: the microphone is07:46
illmortalalright hittin the sack :P07:46
wordi can hear it through the speakers, but no apps can find the input for it07:46
illmortalflaccid & dwidmann, thanks for your assistance.07:46
flaccidillmortal: oh kdm them sorry mate. just to let you know it doesn't work properly07:46
flaccidheh its been like this since kubuntu was out07:47
dwidmannmaybe illmortal would have better luck installing kdm-kde4 and themeing it instead07:47
flaccidoh im just repeating dwidmann. meh im so not with it07:47
worddwidmann: the playback works fine, but none of the inputs in the programs are getting sound,07:48
p_quarlesflaccid, I remember it working with 7.04 -- broke after that07:48
worddwidmann: on both skype and audacity i tried 0,0 0,1 and 0,207:48
p_quarleskdm theming, that is -- and it's the same in Debian, so the issue is upstream07:48
dwidmannhmmm, I'm no sound expert word, lets see what I can google :)07:49
kathyHello07:49
kathyAnyone know how to make desktop sharing in kde 4.1 functional.  pretty complex from what I see07:49
dwidmannword: what about this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-449731.html07:50
worddwidmann: thanks, i've been trying for a  couple hours and haven't found anything :(07:50
worddwidmann: hold on, checking07:50
holyguyverHow do I install a js extension to Konqueror?07:52
worddwidmann: actually, it's a Realtek ALC889A, being recognized by alsa as 885, and by phonon as 882 >< lol07:53
dwidmannword: well, maybe that post will solve it for you, it looks like cato2 had all his ducks in a row by the end of the thread07:53
worddwidmann: awesome! still doesn't show up as the right one, but mic works, and that's plenty thanks a lot!07:56
flaccidp_quarles: its never worked on each release since dapper for me07:57
dwidmannword: awesome, glad to hear that it works. Don't worry about if it shows up as the right one ... any more attempt to fix it might break it07:57
flaccidp_quarles: debian and ubuntu implement the login manager quite differently to normal distros, could have something to do with it07:58
p_quarlesthat wouldn't surprise me; haven't tried anything non-debian based recently07:59
flaccidword: phonon sounds like kde4, you might have better luckin #kubuntu-kde407:59
* djdarkman doesn't understand why does addept's systray goes into a seperate window when turning on compiz.... and why hasn't this 1 year old bug been fixed....08:02
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cyberponixI need help with some dvd encription08:09
mase_workcyberponix: ok08:09
mase_workcyberponix: what do you need help with08:09
mase_workspecifically08:09
cyberponixrather i can not get the movie war to rip08:09
cyberponixNo issues ripping other dvds08:10
mase_workcyberponix: is there some sort of copy protection on that DVD do you know ?08:10
cyberponixI am sure there is however I am unsure what kind...08:11
cyberponixI have never had this many issues ripping a dvd08:11
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mase_workcyberponix: what method are you using to rip the dvd ?08:13
cyberponixI have tried dvdrip, acidrip, and k9copy none can do it....08:13
favro!dvd08:14
ubottuFor playing DVD, see http://help.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/video.html - "libdvdcss2" can be found at !Medibuntu or (for Feisty and earlier) http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages - Try k9copy (available in !Universe) for backing up DVDs08:14
flacciddjdarkman: ask compiz/gtk08:14
cyberponixand yes I have the current libdvdcss208:15
cyberponixlol08:15
TamagotonoAnyone know of any showstoppers in intrepid Alpha4?08:15
flaccidcyberponix: try libdvdnav4 and libdvdread3 <-- that one mostly08:15
flaccid!intrepid | Tamagotono08:15
ubottuTamagotono: Alpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!08:15
djdarkmanflaccid: everytime I ask about issues like this, developers always defend themeselves instead of just saying: "sorry we don't have the time" or "sorry this isn't important to us"08:16
mase_workcyberponix: you may not be able to do it then08:16
flacciddjdarkman: agreed08:16
flaccidits pretty much like the systray problem in kde4 with gtk etc. usability gets overlooked a lot08:17
cyberponixflaccid: i ahve those, and still can not back up dvd08:18
flaccidcyberponix: if its encrypted, perhaps it cannot decrypt the type of encryption you have08:19
cyberponixit was released in 07 it seems to me that should have been broken by now, maybe not... dunno thanks anyway08:20
flaccidshouldn't rely on the open source community for doing that illegal stuff :)08:21
cyberponixits not illegal to back things u own.. however if i uploaded it to oh lets say mininova for others to download then it becomes illegal08:22
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cyberponixI just like having my movies on a thumb drive so i can easly take them places you know?08:23
flaccidcyberponix: thats not entirely true but yeah pretty ot for here08:23
flaccidi agree of course you should be able to backup08:24
djdarkmanDMCA and DRM are the lamest things in the world, after Microsoft....08:25
cyberponixthat is the only dvd I can not back up its strange to me08:25
sgrovercyberponix: where there's a will there's a way.  Pipe the video out from a DVD player to a video capture device on your computer and record it there... :)08:31
sgroverI'll leave it up to you though to decide if you are "legally" able to do this....08:31
KingOfDoswhat the ** is happening with security.ubuntu.com? an apt-get upgrade gives me 30kB/s. normally when i'd do an apt-get upgrade it goes with about 1400kB/s08:34
cyberponixsgrover: got any good cap programs?08:36
sgroversry, no.  Haven't needed em yet.08:37
sgroverBut, even MythTV would work if you used the video capture device approach....08:37
sgroverthough that's a bit overkill08:37
sgrover(er.  to be clear.. I *think* that would work as expected... haven't tried it myself sooooo....)08:38
flaccidKingOfDos: probably just load08:43
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KingOfDosflaccid: i'd think so. but when there is so mutch load, just add another server. at least that's what i would do.08:45
flaccidKingOfDos: there are mirrors and feel free to donate to the project08:46
flaccidjust isn't mirrors for the security repos because its not as HA as main08:47
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kastnerhallo09:01
kastnerkennt sich hier jemand mit krfb aus09:03
p_quarles!de09:03
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de09:03
kastnerthaks a lot, i thought i was conneted to it. my mistake    sorry09:04
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Guest83242join mythtv-user09:10
Guest83242ups :_09:10
ext3_fs234509:12
flaccidj kde09:17
flaccidoops09:17
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tony_is there any way to totally remove an app? do i just use purge?09:22
flaccidpurge if installed from pkg09:25
Guest83242a question - do you know a repository with kde 4.1?09:28
Guest83242i use ubuntu ones, and still no upgrade09:28
wordGuest83242: go to kubuntu.org and click on the news item, it has the instructions you need09:29
flaccid!kde4 | Guest8324209:29
ubottuGuest83242: KDE 4.1.0 is the latest major release of the K Desktop Environment. Packages can be found at  http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1 - Support in #kubuntu-kde409:29
flaccidthats the link..09:29
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compilerwriterLadies and Gents Is there a way for my windows to "remember" the coordinates from which I last had them on the screen and then appear at those same coordinates when I fire up the same program again?10:00
flaccidcompilerwriter: right click the title bar of the window and goto advanced | special application settings and select remembe for the first two types10:02
compilerwriterflaccid all I have in advanced is Keep above/below others and fullscreen10:04
flaccidcompilerwriter: hmm thats weird. you are on kde3 using kwin ? ie. no effects or different window manager?10:05
compilerwriterflaccid I have the cube10:06
compilerwriterflaccid how would I determine my wm10:07
compilerwriterflaccid beryl comes to mind10:07
flaccidcompilerwriter: correct. you are not using kwin, so you should ask #compiz-fusion if its possible10:07
flaccidor whatever window manager you are using because it aint kwin10:07
ActionParsnipyo yo yo10:10
kritykalhyeee10:20
kritykalall10:20
kritykalhow are you10:20
kritykali hope all of you are good10:21
kritykalcondition10:21
kritykalor10:21
kritykalconditioner10:21
kritykalsounds like shampoo you all10:21
kritykalhahaha10:21
ActionParsnipkritykal: ease up on the enter key dude, its not punctuation10:22
flaccidkritykal: please leave unless you are here about kubuntu support10:22
tony_anyone know how to make amarok use minimode by default?10:24
ActionParsniptony_: I use amarok. How do you enable this mode?10:26
kritykalgo to the option10:27
kritykalits easy pal10:27
tony_ActionParsnip: there's two up/down arrows on the right side of the small player. click it10:27
flaccidkritykal: please stop.10:28
kritykalhey10:28
kritykalis it im wrong?10:29
ActionParsniptony_: so its the startup view option?10:29
srbaldomeroHello,can anyone help me to configure my system as to have a 1440x900px resolution? I have a SIS Mirage3 graphic card as10:29
tony_kritykal: i think he's telling you you're being too general10:29
tony_ActionParsnip: go to settings....show player window10:29
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kritykaloption is equal to setting and also equal to preferences10:30
ActionParsniptony_: ahh so you just want the basic playing interface10:30
tony_ActionParsnip: yes10:30
ActionParsniptony_: mine looks a bit like this http://www.mepisguides.com/Mepis-6/media-players/amarok/amarok-4.png10:31
tony_i don't really need that big amarok window every time i start it10:31
ActionParsniptony_: but not gnomified10:31
kritykalokay pal10:32
kritykaltake care10:32
ActionParsniptony_ im websearching10:32
kritykalsorry that if im wrong10:33
kritykaltake care actionparsnip10:33
kritykallove you10:33
ActionParsnipkritykal: np man10:33
flaccid!enter | kritykal10:33
ubottukritykal: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!10:33
flaccidme10:33
flaccidmeh even10:33
flaccidtony_: you might get an answer in #amarok10:33
tony_flaccid: already asked. too slow in there10:34
flaccidit might get better later10:34
tony_oh well, no big deal10:34
ActionParsniptony_: id try a different player if amarok doesnt suit you10:35
flaccidtony_: sorry how do you get to mini mode again?10:35
tony_flaccid: settings....show player window......then bottom right arrow things10:36
tony_ActionParsnip: i like amarok. i use audacious once in a while also10:37
tony_i just haven't used linux long enough to really have a favorite10:37
ActionParsniptony_: id explore, do you use the library function in amarok?10:38
flaccidtony_: raise a bug on bugs.kde.org as a feature request, i don't see it being possible and amarok2 will superseed this anyway10:38
tony_ActionParsnip: no, not yet. have in a previous install10:38
tony_no big deal. maybe it has it in amarok 210:42
flaccidmaybe, maybe not, you won't know until you find out :)10:43
tony_usually the bugs i file are already on record10:45
tony_something has to be done with the nvidia drivers or xorg or soemthing. i'm using 20% to 50% cpu on my 8800gt and q660010:46
tony_where do i go for that? #xorg is empty10:46
flaccidtony_which process?10:47
favrotony_: in konsole type   top  then the > key and look for two xorgs listed10:48
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tony_favro: xorg and kwin = 30% to 50% cpu10:51
favrotony_: yeh - I went back to the nv driver 'cause of that10:52
flaccidi guess you could complain to nvidia or try their beta drivers10:53
tony_favro: are you on kde4 also? i'm on 4.110:53
flaccidor just upgrade to latest stable nvidia driver10:53
favrotony_: no10:53
flaccidtony_: this channel is not kde4 support, see topic please10:53
tony_flaccid: i'd rather use what's in the repos. any time i used different and used the repos, i'd have a mess and sometimes no x10:53
favrotony_: it seems to be the new x at fault10:54
tony_flaccid: but kubuntu uses kde 410:54
flaccidtony_: read the topic.10:54
flaccidalso you can't point blame until you diagnose it10:54
tony_i thought kubuntu had already moved onto kde4 hence it coming with kde410:55
tony_is there something i add to make kubuntu update to beta drivers?10:58
tony_nvidia ones?10:58
favro!nvidia10:59
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto10:59
flaccidtony_: nah that won't happen until intrepid. beta drivers and the latest drivers are from the nvidia website. they are not updated in release10:59
alechello11:06
alecis it normal that empty files aren't saved as actual files on a fat-formatted usb-stick? they seem to be in the file table but on a windows machine I can't access them.11:10
flaccidalec: doesn't seem right. what is the error in windows?11:11
alecit says that the file doesn't exist.11:12
flaccidif it exists in linux, i guess you better give bill a call :O11:12
aleccould it be that linux just doesn't save a real file behind the entry in the file table? i think that's what confuses windows.11:13
flaccidi doubt it. a file is a file as far as linux is concerned11:14
alecok...i was just wondering because it only happens on empty files. once they have more than 0 bytes, windows can open them aswell.11:15
flaccidwell windows is usually fine with 0 byte files. maybe google can shed some light11:16
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aleci'll give it a try, thanks so far.. difference is, when i save an empty text file myself, i can open it on both os...well, I'll google.11:21
flaccidalec: how else would you save it?11:21
alecthose empty files are header files from /usr/src/ ....11:22
aleci haven't created them myself but simply copied them to the usb-stick (using dolphin, but that shouldn't be the problem)11:23
flaccidhmmm fux me11:25
flaccidoops!11:25
alecflaccid, what's up?11:26
flaccidnothing11:26
alechmm..k then..11:27
thefishalec: is the file still there when you put the usb stick back in the linux machine?11:32
Jahmanhi11:32
thefishthe 0 size file i mean11:32
thefishhi Jahman11:32
alecthefish, yes, it's still there.11:32
Jahmanhugh thefish11:33
thefishalec: can you copy the file to the windows machine via network?11:35
thefishalec: i have just tried with a usb stick here on dolphin 1.1 and it works fine - are you unmounting (ejecting) the usb stick properly?11:36
alecuhm...nope, i didn't umount the stick... I had waited a long time (30 mins) before i just took it out. but i'll try it with unmounting..actually a smart idea :)11:38
aleccan't try copying via network because both machines are supposed to be disconnected here..security issues, not my own systems.11:39
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mw07_Hallo11:41
mw08hallo11:41
mw07_http://downloads.sourceforge.net/inkscape/Inkscape-0.46.win32.exe11:41
flaccidmw07_: how can we help you?11:42
flaccid!ops11:43
ubottuHelp! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) Riddell, Tm_T, fdoving, Mez, stdin, jpatrick, seth_k, apokryphos, nalioth, Hobbsee, robotgeek, imbrandon, gnomefreak, Hawkwind, trappist, LjL, Jucato,  haggai, fooishbar, crimsun, seth, apokryphos, DBO, nixternal, PriceChild or jussi01!11:43
flaccidmw07_: is trying to send me a file which could be a virus11:43
dwidmannhmm, and mw08 has left the server11:44
dwidmannwonder just how many mwxx's there are11:44
flaccidwould be good if ops were actually around doing their job11:44
dwidmannProbably a bad time of day11:45
bazhangit is very early for most of them I would imagine.11:45
flacciddepends where you live. this channel is international.11:46
bazhangtrue11:46
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Riddellflaccid: do you want ops?11:46
flaccidits only 8:45pm here11:46
dwidmannIMO the most uninteresting hours, thus, when I sleep, ranges from about 6am to 12noon. 6:45am here in EST11:46
flaccidRiddell: is that a trick question?11:46
Riddellno11:46
flaccidwell sure, but at this stage i would prefer a development server for kubuntu.org but heh im up for either :)11:47
Riddellflaccid: can't you set up drupal on your local computer?11:47
flaccidRiddell: yeah i've got that going but really would like the actual config and content outputted so i can do the css properly11:48
flacciddid you get my URI for my drupal install ?11:48
Riddellflaccid: no don't think so11:49
Riddellflaccid: I've given you ops on this channel11:49
backfliphey everybody. newbie need some KDE3 help. my desktop wallpapper isn't changing. i choose file, confirim, but nothing happen. what i should try?11:49
flaccidgive the URL from the notice i just sent a shot11:49
Riddellflaccid: I don't see a msg11:50
Riddellflaccid: ok, that seems to work11:50
alecthefish, i can reproduce it this way: I copy "con.h" from "/usr/src/linux-headers-'uname -a'/include/config/w1 to the stick, unmount it and put the stick into the win-machine. there i can see the file but can't open nor copy it.11:51
flaccidRiddell: thanks on both accounts jr :)11:51
bazhangruh roh11:53
thefishalec: maybe try with just cp on the console instead of dolphin?11:55
alecjust doing that right now :)11:56
alecsame problem occours. and i cared about unmounting aswell.11:57
thefishalec: not sure then mate :/ - what use do you have for the empty files?12:01
alecthefish, i want to port some code to a different system (not windows, it's just the IDE I'm using there). the source code I want to port definately uses linux libraries, so i need to copy all that stuff first before i start compiling anything there. thanks a lot that you cared though!12:03
_magez_Magez12:04
thefishalec: no worries :) please tell me if you find out what causes this, i get the same here12:04
alecsure, I'll do my best.12:05
thefishalec: you could just recreate the files in windows as a workaround?12:05
alecmw07 is trying to send me a suspicious file.12:05
alecthefish, sure, that would be a workaround. but I'd need to be able to delete the files frst in order to replace them with 'valid' files. and i can't access them because windows considers them faulty. and there are a lot these files spread all over the filetree..12:08
The_ManU_212hi12:09
thefishalex "echo '' > file"?12:09
thefishon the windows side i mean12:09
The_ManU_212yesterday i wanted hardy heron to install on my machine, the installation was fine, but when i enabled the ati driver (kicker gui) then x didnt start anymore and my pc hangs when i do shutdown12:10
thefishit wouldnt take too much to write a small script that found those and echo'd nothing into them12:10
The_ManU_212my graphics card is a saphire 128mb x700pro12:10
The_ManU_212and i also had the shutdown problem with dapperdrake, but not everytime12:10
alecthefish, yeah, i could try to recursively find empty files and write a space char into them, thanks. just very new to linux and i don't know a lot of the bash commands for shellscripting. but I'll try this, thanks a lot for your support.12:13
thefishalec: if you want to do this in linux, find can do part of it for you (man find), i meant to do this on the windows side12:14
BUGabundohello12:14
BUGabundowhat tool replaces Kcontrol on kde4 on intrepid?12:14
flaccidBUGabundo: system settings and #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support; #ubuntu+1 for intrepid12:15
BUGabundoI'll check there12:16
BUGabundothanks flaccid12:16
alecthefish, but on the windows side I'd need the ability to access these files. windows just doesn't let me touch them. can't open, can't delete and thus i think I won't be able to write anything into them.12:16
emilsedghBUGabundo: System Settings is the original control panel in KDE412:16
alecbut it's still worth a try..let me try this..12:18
thefishalec: find /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/include/config/w1 -type f -empty will return all empty files in that directory12:23
thefishalec: you can then use find /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/include/config/w1 -type f -empty -exec echo " " > {} \; to echo a space into them - I would copy the whole tree to /tmp first and do the modifications on the copy ;)12:24
thefishof course you may want to check that it can open the files with spaces in them!12:25
alecthefish, super strange behaviour on windows. if I "echo boo > test.txt", it'll work out and create or overwrite that file. if I "echo boo > con.h" (con.h is the faulty file), then dos will just print "boo" out to the console like I wouldn't type it into the file.12:26
thefishwow strange12:26
alecthefish, oh, thanks a lot for the help with find. yeah, I'll check if windows can read that file at all if it's filled.12:27
alecwow, did you use some regex there or how does  "{} \" describe the found file?12:30
alecok, that's more than strange. if i open con.h with kate and save a byte into it, then i can see in windows that the file is containing a byte. but still i can't open it.12:36
alecthefish, hah, got it!12:36
alecit's the _filename_ that has different chars.12:36
alec"con.h" isn't just <letters><dot><letter> .12:37
alecif found it out by using the tab to complete the filename.12:37
uffohello, does someone has kubuntu livecd with kde4.112:42
alecthefish, i went like this: on windows, if you type "del con" and press on tab, then it will complete the file name to "con.h". Now, if you type "del con." and press tab, it won't be able to complete the filename. it's not a usual dot prior the file ending. if i do the same with a windows-created file like "test.txt", then i can write "del test.", press tab and it'll complete the rest of the file.12:43
uffodo someone has created kubuntu kde4.1 livecd, i have enough of that package updating because i updated to kde4.1 now plasma wont run12:44
flacciduffo: kde4 support int he channel as per topic12:45
flacciduffo: oops i mean #kubuntu-kde4 for help on kde412:45
uffobut i need kubuntu kde4.1 livecd jus12:45
uffot12:45
uffoi removed kubuntu from hdd already12:46
CosmiCjust installed kde 4.1, keyboard shortcuts don't seem to work and changing monitor settings via gui doesn't work. Are these problems common in kde 4.x12:46
CosmiC?12:46
flacciduffo: no such thing12:46
uffoi had enough12:46
flaccidCosmiC: wrong chan see topic for right channel12:46
Dr_willis!kde4 > CosmiC12:47
ubottuCosmiC, please see my private message12:47
Dr_williskde4.1 is still very much a work in progress.12:48
CosmiCDr_willis: thnx12:48
uffohas someone created kde4.1 custom cd, i know it is possible but maybe there is someone who has12:48
Hobbseeuffo: the peopel who may have tried are likely in #kubuntu-kde412:49
flacciduffo: not the right channel sorry12:50
uffoit is kubuntu channel12:50
uffoi do not need kde4 specific12:50
flacciduffo: read the topic please12:50
flaccidok12:51
uffook i ask from kde4 channel about kubuntu cd but if they send me back there then i come12:51
Hobbseeuffo: https://edge.launchpad.net/reconstructor may be helpful, but i don't know if it does kde 4.1 cds.  i doubt many people have tried it12:52
Hobbseeflaccid: try being constructive, perhaps?12:52
flaccid Hobbsee: pardon ?12:53
flaccidim constructive all day here if you had not noticed12:53
Hobbseeflaccid: that is not constructive, sorry. That could be replaced by a cron job. (if kde4 is mentioned, tell user to read /topic, rinse and repeat if they talk again)12:54
flaccidHobbsee: i guess that is your opinion. now that i am an operator i do not wish to quarrel with you.12:55
Hobbseeflaccid: if you want operatorship, you should behave in a constructive way.  we've been over this many times in -ops and elsewhere, i am sure.12:55
Hobbseemore to the point, if you want to *keep* operatorship for an extended period of time...12:56
flaccidHobbsee: please explain operatorship. are you now targeting me?12:56
flaccidim happy to read any resources that are available if you can provide them12:56
Hobbseegoogle shows many things...12:56
flaccidthats not constructive12:57
flaccidHobbsee: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=%23kubuntu+operatorship&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-812:57
Hobbseeyou're asking me to provide answers to every question, without knowing what the questions are.  what do you expect me to say?12:58
flaccidsome meeting from 2005..12:58
flaccidi don't expect anything from you Hobbsee12:58
Hobbseeanyway, this is offtopic.  Just remember:  be constructive.12:58
flaccidyou brought it up. im constructive all day thanks. talk again another time.12:58
vazlokanyone knows of a kde4 lookalike theme for kde3?13:21
bazhangwhat about kde-look.org vazlok13:22
Hobbseevazlok: kde3 and kde4 both have qtcurve, if that helps13:22
Hobbseeotherwise, kdelook.13:22
tony_anyone know how i find my ip address?13:25
Picitony_: ifconfig13:26
tony_Pici: thanks, but is there a way to make it a certain ip like in windows?13:28
Picitony_: A static address?13:29
tony_Pici: yes. router wants my address as 192.168.1.102 because ports aare set to be open for that address13:30
Picitony_: I'm not really sure how to do that in KDE, I'm more of a Gnome person myself. I'm sure that someone else here can help you with that though.13:31
jussi01tony_: right click the network manager icon in tray, then manual configuration, IIRC its there13:32
uli_hallo kann mir mal jemand in sachen irc helfen?13:32
vazlokHobbsee, bazhang thanks....but I use kde4 with some kde3 apps(kdevelop)...I just wanted a consistent look...qtcurve might help, but I like oxygen too much to give it up just yet :)13:32
Hobbsee!de | uli_13:32
ubottuuli_: Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de13:32
tony_jussi01: thanks, i can probably figure it out now13:33
uli_thats my problem!13:33
uli_how can i change rooms?13:33
jussi01tony_: great :)13:33
jussi01uli_: /join #room you want13:33
uli_thx jussi0113:34
jussi01uli_: no probs :)13:34
uli_are you german jussi01 ?13:36
jussi01uli_: no. also, this is offtopic for here, /join #kubuntu-offtopic13:36
corigoWhat is the difference between a Primary Partition and Extended Partition? More importantly if I'm formatting a data only drive for my home SAN which should I use.13:41
thefishcorigo: wikipedia should be able to help you with understanding partition types, i reckon a primary should be fine as you are probably using only 1 - what are you using for the SAN?13:42
corigo2x250GiB Raid 1. No OS only data.13:45
flaccidcorigo: google explains all. there can only be 4 primary partitions, then extended on a disk. so use primary unless there are already 4 primary parts..13:45
corigoflaccid: thanks as always13:46
flaccidnp13:46
bopfermanis there a kde4 channel?13:48
ghostcubekubuntu-kde413:48
Hobbseebopferman: yes, #kubuntu-kde413:48
bopfermanty13:49
corigorunning live CD how can I mount my new partition?13:51
flaccidcorigo: disks & filesystems in system settings13:51
corigoYeah, you see this my problem, I'm used to Kubuntu, and loading Ubuntu, better switch forums13:53
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ravhello. Will Kubuntu Intrepid come with KDE4 by default?14:14
flaccid!intrepid | rav14:17
ubotturav: Alpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!14:17
cryingtuxhello14:17
cryingtuxflaccid:14:17
ravflaccid: thanks. Kubuntu Hardy is a LTS, correct?14:18
flaccidnegative14:18
cryingtuxcan you help me with how to add another distro to kubuntu grub entry?14:18
ravso I'll have to go to KDE4 or stop updating?14:19
flaccidcryingtux: no sorry14:19
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cryingtuxits ok14:19
flaccidrav: its your choice, hardy users can install 4.1 if they want14:19
flaccidcryingtux: usually update-grub does that for you anyway14:20
cryingtuxwill it add the bootloader of the other distro installed on sda7?14:20
ravflaccid: but when 8.10 is released, I have to stay on 8.04 to keep KDE 3.5.x14:21
flaccidcryingtux: there can only be one initial bootloader, but if you want to pass it to the other one, do chainloader +1 in the grub entry14:21
flaccidrav: nah you can be on either for kde314:21
cryingtuxthanks14:22
ravflaccid: whew14:22
flaccidcoolio14:22
neWbieZhi guys, i have probs with my video card, it's an nvida and i correctly installed the driver by following the procedure but unfortunately there is a prob with the "vertical scroll" i mean: everytime i watch a video for example the graphical quality is good, unless theres not a scene in which the subject moves up and down, jumps or something, in that case i see 2 or 3 horizontal lines on the screen that divide the image in frames. i tried to14:25
neWbieZdescribe the prob the best i could. can someone help? thanks14:25
ravneWbieZ: is it just when looking videos?14:27
neWbieZmainly yes, i also tried to see if the prob was VLC, so i installed another video player but nothing, then i tried to watch a video in youtube, same thing, and also sometimes the "scrolling" of a webpage seems to present the same issue14:27
flaccidneWbieZ: do you know which video driver you are using?14:28
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neWbieZit's the right one for my videocard i downloaded it from the nvidia website14:28
neWbieZif you want to know it give me one sec i'll tell you right away14:29
flaccidneWbieZ: can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?14:29
ravi've never had video issues with my nvidia card. I installed the driver using envy-ng14:30
neWbieZthe driver is this NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.12-pkg1.run14:30
neWbieZim doing the pastebin14:31
P3X-018Is it easier to control applications, how they behave and modify different settings in KDE than GNOME?14:32
neWbieZits taking a bit of time because its a big file14:33
flaccidP3X-018: thats entirely the user's opinion14:33
P3X-018It feels like you don't have the same amount of flexibility in ubuntu as you would in kubuntu. Or is it just me?14:33
ravP3X-018: i chose KDE based on looks on my early days of using linux, and got used to its applications and features. But I know people who feel the same way about GNOME14:34
Dr_willisI find kde more flexiable then gnome. :) and with that im out of hter..14:36
neWbieZwhats going on with my hard disk? it says i cant open it, it says "only available with HAL" and also it renames all the hard disks deleting their names and making them appear as "Hard Disk (scd1-2 etc)" ????14:36
neWbieZ(still uploading the pastebin)14:36
neWbieZthis is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/40665/14:41
neWbieZguys?14:44
neWbieZ??14:46
P3X-018Is it a bad idea to install KDE upon the GNOME that is already there in ubuntu, or should delete ubuntu and start w kubuntu?14:46
Dekansyou can install both14:47
Dekansbut you will have a lot of applications14:47
P3X-018Dekans: heard it causes problems with 'overlaps'.14:47
Dekansoverlaps ?14:48
neWbieZalright...14:48
P3X-018Dekans: As you said I'll have alot of apps... Isn't it possible to "overwrite" it on ubuntu, and hence remove ubuntu that way?14:49
Dekansah14:49
Dekansyou can try with autoremove14:49
Dekansbut removing gnome libraries is very efficient for removing all gnome apps :p14:50
hateballRemoving Xorg is quite efficient too ^^14:50
Dekanshateball: not to install KDE14:50
hateballRemove Xorg, install kubuntu-desktop14:51
hateball:p14:51
P3X-018Dekans: Will that remove ubuntu?14:51
P3X-018And install what I want?14:51
hateballTho why not just backup /home and do a fresh install?14:51
hateballIn any case, I've had no problems having both KDE and Gnome...14:52
neWbieZwhat's kubuntu desktop? is it better than xorg?14:52
P3X-018hateball: I'll need an empty cd to burn the OS on and install it that way right?14:52
P3X-018Dont think I have more of those :/14:52
hateball!info kubuntu-desktop | neWbieZ14:52
ubottunewbiez: kubuntu-desktop (source: kubuntu-meta): Kubuntu desktop system. In component main, is optional. Version 1.75 (hardy), package size 18 kB, installed size 44 kB14:52
flaccidgnome and kde ie. ubuntu and kubuntu are very separate there is no need for re-installing. if you have problems take those errors up with the appropriate channel14:53
neWbieZthis is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/40665/14:53
neWbieZas you asked14:53
flaccidneWbieZ: just remind me what you need. sorry its late here14:54
neWbieZyou asked me to pastebin you my xorg.log14:55
neWbieZthis is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/40665/14:55
neWbieZ <neWbieZ> hi guys, i have probs with my video card, it's an nvida and i correctly installed the driver by following the procedure but unfortunately there is a prob with the "vertical scroll" i mean: everytime i watch a video for example the graphical quality is good, unless theres not a scene in which the subject moves up and down, jumps or something, in that case i see 2 or 3 horizontal lines on the screen that divide the image in frames.14:55
neWbieZi tried to14:55
neWbieZ[15:25] <neWbieZ> describe the prob the best i could. can someone help? thanks14:55
neWbieZthis is what i asked before14:55
DekansP3X-018: that will remove Gnome and its apps14:57
Dekansthe base system will persist14:57
Dekansand kde will be there14:57
Dekansso you'll have kubuntu14:58
P3X-018Dekans: So I can install KDE and then remove ubuntu?14:58
ghostcubeu will install kde and remove gnome yes14:58
Dekansyes14:58
hw__Are ~/.xinit and ~/.xsession executed on startx invocation and/or at kdm login?14:58
P3X-018Ok so which package is it that I need to install from Synaptic?14:59
P3X-018There is KDE-, kubuntu and stuff..14:59
favrokubuntu-desktop14:59
Hamrahi, how do i change locales? in particular, the LANGUAGE= is what i want to change14:59
flaccidneWbieZ: ok give me 2mins15:01
neWbieZyep15:01
flaccidneWbieZ: so your resolution is ok but just the performance with playing back videos is not ?15:02
neWbieZexactly15:03
neWbieZmy resolution is great15:03
flaccidinteresting, but this a 9600gt ?15:03
neWbieZyes i think so15:03
neWbieZflaccid i have to go... my daughter is waiting for me out of school, thank you for your time and help, i really have to go sorry15:06
neWbieZi'll get back in this chan tomorrow or later on15:06
neWbieZsorry again15:06
estanhello. i'm trying to remove linux-restricted-modules-generic from my system.. but it says that linux-generic is dependant upon it.. how come?15:06
estani'd like to install the latest nvidia driver, so i'd like to remove the package one.15:07
v_hi all15:07
angelikahi, also my nvidia is brocken since last apt-get upgrade..15:09
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estanit would be okay if it only removed linux-generic, but it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-kde4-desktop along with it, which is obviously don't want.15:10
estananyone know why it suggests to delete kubuntu-kde4-desktop et.c. when i try to remove linux-restriced-modules-generic?15:11
frank23estan: you don't need to remove that if you want to remove the nvidia driver AFAIK15:12
flaccidestan: you don't need to remove anything if you wan to use the latest driver from nvidia15:13
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miffedhow do I stop windows becoming transparent ?15:26
valcrowhi..how do i use abbreviations in kdevelop 3..for eg classd or ifb?15:30
valcrowthe docs dont seem to have info on this15:30
miffedI got all desktop effects turned off, unistalled all the compiz stuff and yet my windows are transparent and pop up menus fade in and out, how do I turn off the transparency affect?15:31
frank23doesn't kwin do the desktop effects in kubuntu hardy?15:36
frank23(I'm not using hardy)15:37
miffedfrank23: I have no idea what manages the effect I   have turned off every option I can find so far yet it persists15:38
falefrank23: I think it will15:38
testimiffed: maybe you need to log in again15:40
testito turn it off15:40
miffedI rebooted several times15:41
mr_clarkHi guys. Running Kubuntu with KDE4. Everytime I start up my laptop I do an update to python-qt4, and python-qt4-common. This has been happening for about a week now. Any idea why these packages aren't updatng properly?15:41
flaccidmr_clark: #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support15:43
mr_clarkokay.15:43
mr_clarkthanks.15:43
flaccidnp15:43
miffedWhere would one enable transparency ....... desktop effects?15:44
pimI'd say compiz-fusion15:44
miffedpim: I removed everything compiz couple of days ago15:46
bazhangmiffed, what about alt f2 kwin --replace15:46
ghostcubemiffed: i dont know but kde 3 isnt using real transparency15:46
miffedbazhang: still acting the same15:48
ghostcubemiffed: whats the prob again ?15:52
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ghostcubeok red it are u using kde3 ?15:53
miffedghostcube:  I got all desktop effects turned off, unistalled all the compiz stuff and yet my windows are transparent and pop up menus fade in and out, how do I turn off the transparency affect?15:53
ghostcubemiffed: is this kde3 ?15:54
miffedghostcube:  yup15:55
ghostcubeps ax | grep compiz15:55
miffedreturns nothing15:55
ghostcubedpkg -l | grep compiz to nopaste.info15:56
ghostcubemiffed: have u checked the desktop effectts in kcontrol ?15:56
ghostcubein appearance ?15:56
elwood_help I can't get my cd or dvd drives to be recognized16:00
dimaПривет всем16:04
trappist!ru16:05
ubottuПожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke16:05
ghostcubebbl16:05
trappistI'm getting kind of annoyed by the every-couple-of-days kernel upgrades16:07
dimabzzz16:08
elwood_can anybody help me with my cd drive problem?16:08
trappist!ru > dima16:08
ubottudima, please see my private message16:08
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BluesKajhowdy16:20
pimydwoh16:22
BluesKajyeh pim16:29
sbucatanyone can get this working with opera or konqueror (i dislike firefox...) http://www.englishlistening.com/startListeningNow.do16:31
sbucat-.-''16:35
geek_sbucat: what's that?16:36
geek_site itself seems to wotk, no speakers on this box tho ;p16:37
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sbucatgeek_: no... it said buffering but doesn't buffering16:44
comitehola un service16:45
comitealguien sabe configurar para compartir una Impresora S.O. xp a Linux16:46
Pici!es | comite16:47
ubottucomite: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.16:47
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nemo_sorry jemanden kann mir helfen???17:32
nemo_würde gerne wissen wie kann ich java auf kubuntu installieren???17:33
nemo_hallo?? jemand da????17:34
bazhang!de17:35
ubottuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu, Kubuntu und Edubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #xubuntu-de und #edubuntu-de17:35
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ForgeAusuh... whats up with LSB :(... not good18:12
sebastian_hi, i have a coupple of questions because im new to kubuntu, when i use apt-get install.. can i write in 2 names in one command so it installs both automaticlly? and when i use sudo can i have something like su thats keeps me logged in as root all the time?18:15
gissisebastian_: Yes, you can "apt-get install package1 package2 package3"18:16
sebastian_ok thx :)18:16
sebastian_how about sudo?18:16
gissisebastian_: For the sudo, there is the non-recommended method of "sudo su -" which will ask for your password and give you a root shell18:16
favroyou can install as mant apps as you like - a space to seperate - sudo lasts for 5 min18:17
sebastian_ok :)18:17
favro*many18:17
birnissonhi, where do I get for example libqtcore4 (>= 4.4.1) ?18:22
dany_21ahey room... does anyone know the problem (and maybe solution) that Alt+F2 (krunner?) wont get the focus if i start it and compiz is running? (window appears, but is behind all other windows)18:23
favrodany_21a: afaik using compiz supersedes kwin so kde apps are not focused - try in #compiz-fusion18:26
typedestereoI've a certain driver for my usb card...where would it be saved?19:07
typedestereo*usb wireless card19:07
favro!wireless19:10
ubottuWireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs19:10
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testairl19:22
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vocHi please i need help! this never happen to me before! today when i try to hear music in amarok, the music sound very weird!! not how it should sound!! why happen this? help! thenks!19:47
sourcemakerI am using konqueror as web browser every day... but the browser crashs very often... when a web page contains flash... any help?19:50
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pim_sourcemaker I think firefox is a better choise19:51
pim_sudo apt-get install firefox19:51
vochi please i need help! this never happen to me before! today when i try to hear music in amarok, the music sound very weird!! not how it should sound!! why happen this? help! thenks!19:52
Havoc][voc: did you check your mp3?19:53
p_quarlesvoc, perhaps you were listening to weird sounding music? (the point: your description isn't very good)19:53
deathoncityhi all19:53
deathoncityi have a compaq presario r4000 notebook and kubuntu linux19:54
deathoncityi cannot install my wireless driver19:54
deathoncitycan anyone help me?19:54
p_quarlesdeathoncity, what wireless card?19:54
deathoncityi also cannot mount my ntfs drives19:55
deathoncitypci19:55
vocit sounds weird like very deep!!!19:55
p_quarlespci is a protocol, not a chipset19:55
AccidusHow can I launch the default application associated with a file, when working from the shell's command line?19:56
deathoncitybroadcom ati bla bla bla19:56
deathoncityhttp://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareList?os=228&lc=en&cc=us&product=453183&dlc=en19:59
deathoncitythere you'll find all drivers for xp sp2 for my laptop20:00
deathoncityi cannot handle-it20:00
deathoncityi'm new using linux20:00
deathoncityhelp me please20:00
gissideathoncity: Which Ubuntu are you running? (Hardy, Edgy, etc)20:01
vocthe music sounds strange, weird...; i don't know how explain it!!! it sounds deep, with a different entonation or somethin'20:01
deathoncitykubuntu20:01
deathoncityi don't know20:01
chlahello20:02
deathoncitywhere did i find out?20:02
deathoncityi have the inf files20:02
Mojo_risinfglrx stopped working for me with composite enabled, can someone help?20:03
gissideathoncity: open a terminal (Alt+F2), type  'konsole' (without quotes) and hit Enter20:05
deathoncitydone20:05
parkinhow do i disablle the windowpopup everytime someone goes away/online in kopete? Ive tried to find the option but havent found it.20:06
gissideathoncity: run 'uname -a'20:06
gissideathoncity: tell me what it returns to you20:06
deathoncityLinux deathoncity-laptop 2.6.20-17-generic #2 SMP Thu Jul 10 00:05:43 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux20:07
gissideathoncity: ok, one minute20:07
gissideathoncity: Ok, you are running Kubuntu Feisty, keep this information if you need help on the future. On this terminal you have open, run: "lspci | grep -i network" (without quotes)20:09
deathoncity03:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)20:11
gissideathoncity: Ok, it is a Broadcom BCM4318, let me take a look. Broadcoms are not very friendly to install, I have one myself... Let me take a look20:12
deathoncity10x a lot20:12
gissideathoncity: check if you have ndiswrapper installed, on that terminal, just run 'ndiswrapper'20:15
deathoncitynope20:15
gissideathoncity: ok, install it by running "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper"20:16
deathoncityE: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper20:17
gissideathoncity: ops, sorry about that, wrong package name20:19
deathoncityno problem...10x anyway20:19
deathoncityhope solve this20:19
gissideathoncity: I'm unsure of the package name on feisty, run "apt-cache search ndiswrapper-util"20:20
deathoncityndiswrapper-utils-1.9 - Userspace utilities for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module20:21
deathoncityi typed sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common20:22
deathoncityand it worked20:22
gissideathoncity: Very good, now run "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9", it will get some utilities we will need20:22
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deathoncityok..wait a sec20:23
vocthe music sounds slow that's it!!! pleae help!20:23
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deathoncitydone20:23
gissideathoncity: nice... Now we will need to find the driver, one minute20:24
deathoncityok20:25
deathoncitygissi:i have entire folder with my w card driver for windows20:32
deathoncityi have put it in my user desktop20:33
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gissideathoncity: Ok, I just found one for your card. Let me send the file to you20:35
deathoncityok20:35
deathoncityand how did i save this?20:36
gissijust save on your home folder20:37
gissideathoncity: Well, check on your folder with Windows driver if you have a file named bcmwl5.inf and  bcmwl5.sys20:38
deathoncityyes20:38
deathoncityi have those files20:38
gissideathoncity: Much easier then ;) Ok, run sudo ndiswrapper -mi 'path to the bcmwl5.inf'20:39
DarkriftXsomeone told me there is a command that will backup a list of all my installed apps so that i can restore it on another installation20:40
gissideathoncity: of course, put the path to the file after -mi20:40
DarkriftXanyone know this command?20:40
deathoncityand now..i have a list20:41
deathoncity-i for install inffile20:42
deathoncity-a devil driver20:42
deathoncity-r driver20:42
deathoncity-l -m -ma20:42
deathoncity-mi and -v20:42
deathoncitywhat do i choose?20:43
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gissideathoncity: -i path_to_file20:43
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cryingtuxhi20:46
deathoncitythis is my path20:46
deathoncity"/home/deathoncity/Desktop/wlan"20:47
deathoncity"/bcmwl5.inf"20:47
gissideathoncity: Go to the directory /home/deathoncity/Desktop/wlan and run "ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf"20:48
cryingtuxi have messed around with my GRUB, now i cant boot my system, all i get at boot is >grub20:49
cryingtuxi reinstalled grub via live cd but same issue20:49
cryingtuxhow can i recover my boot loader?20:50
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cryingtuxany suggestions please?20:53
pim_can I make kubi show what it's doing during the bootprocess rather than that moving bar?20:53
pim_cryingtux20:53
pim_I have a tutorial20:53
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cryingtuxthanks, i am ready to go through it20:54
gkffjcsHey guys, is there a kde equivalent of gnome templates, where you simply put a file in the ~/Templates folder, and can make a copy of it by right clicking and selecting new?20:54
pim_cryingtux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=22435120:55
cryingtuxthanks20:55
gissideathoncity: Did it work? If it did, "ndiswrapper -l" should have it listed20:55
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deathoncityi don't know how i can go to this folder path in terminal20:56
deathoncityi am new using linux20:56
sourcemakercan I supsend my desktop system?20:57
pim_you can20:57
sourcemakerpim_: how can I do that?20:57
pim_I only know for gnome20:58
gissideathoncity: sorry about that. run "cd /home/deathoncity/Desktop/wlan"20:58
pim_but I suppose it's possible for kde too20:58
cryingtuxpim_, hope it works, i gotta go and boot my system and try it20:58
deathoncityit worked20:59
deathoncity10x20:59
deathoncityforcing parameter IBSSGMode from 0 to 221:00
deathoncityseveral times21:00
gissideathoncity: Strange, let me see21:00
deathoncityi believe that i have to disable the wired network to make this thing work21:01
testiIs MSN webcam in general unable to traverse NAT or is it just kopete?21:01
vocsomebody help me please!!!!21:02
gissideathoncity: not very common... run 'iwconfig'21:02
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deathoncitylo        no wireless extensions.21:02
deathoncityeth0      no wireless extensions.21:03
deathoncityeth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:""  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"21:03
deathoncity          Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid21:03
deathoncityRTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off21:03
deathoncity          Encryption key:off21:03
gissideathoncity: Wireless is on21:03
gissideathoncity: See if you can connect21:03
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leqviqelite21:07
deathoncity_nope21:09
deathoncity_is not working21:09
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gissideathoncity_: this error you told is normal.. should be connecting now...21:12
deathoncity_and now i have to eject the network cable to test it,or how?21:13
gissideathoncity_: no, use the KNetworkManager to connect to your wireless network. You know how to do it?21:15
deathoncity__it doesn't work21:17
paolo_whois21:24
myk_robinsonhey, how do i set up user accounts for Samba shares in Kubuntu?21:25
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kerncoIs there a way I can boot into Kubuntu and get to a tty without kdm starting?  kdm is broken right now, and it corrupts my ttys so I can't even get to a command line to fix it.21:28
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myk_robinsonkernco: once KDM screws up, can you press Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get to a tty?21:32
kerncomyk_robinson: The text on the ttys just appears as junk, it's unreadable21:33
myk_robinsonwow... When you boot, can you edit the boot menu and boot to recovery mode instead?21:33
myk_robinsonBTW, is this a new install?21:33
Vermuxhow do I upgrade my wireless driver?21:34
cryingtux! grub21:34
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto21:34
kerncoI'll try doing the recovery mode21:37
VermuxI need wpa support.21:37
myk_robinsonkernco: i believe recovery mode bypasses graphical login and boots straight to a console21:37
Vermuxhow do I see what is my wireless adapter name and model?21:40
ccjlspci |grep wireless21:40
cryingtux! grub21:45
ubottugrub is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost grub after installing windows: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows - Making GRUB floppies & other GRUB howtos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto21:45
filo1234hi all, so i have a curiosity, :) there is a command for to verify kde version?21:48
zerjioHi all!21:48
Vermuxjoin /#linux21:48
VermuxI downloaded wireless driver from Intel. How do I install it?22:01
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Vermuxthis is more complicated than I thought22:03
coreymon77not really22:03
coreymon77you just got the wrong card22:04
coreymon77mine woks without any installation or downloading whatsoever22:04
coreymon77!wifi | Vermux22:04
ubottuVermux: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs22:04
Vermuxcoreymon77: it works with windows, b with linux I have problem connecting. probably because the driver doesnt have WPA capability22:05
coreymon77Vermux: thats usually the case22:05
coreymon77wpa tends to be a pain in the neck22:05
coreymon77Vermux: check those docs, they should help22:06
DarkriftX My laptop has some hard to install hardware that normally takes me weeks to install. It is all running now (have to reinstall on new hd, but im booted to single user mode). Someone told me there was a way to make a restore file of sorts for my hardware setup/drivers etc so that once I reinstall getting my hw working again would be easy, anyone know anything?22:06
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timucinhello. I'm having problems with lirc, can anyone guide me?22:10
coreymon77with what?22:11
coreymon77just use konversation22:11
coreymon77!anyone | timucin22:11
ubottutimucin: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?22:11
timucinsorry ! I made a mistake.22:12
kuser01How do I set file access permissions for a user I have created in Kubuntu?22:14
coreymon77kuser01: look in system settings, there should be a user management thing somewhere in that22:15
engineeradd him to the group that can access22:16
WalzmynUsing Nvidia X server settings, I have twice set it to use dual X screens, but after reboot it's set back to twinview - how do I get it to keep what I want?22:16
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kuser01Where can I read about which groups have which access privelages?22:18
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Walzmyn!groups22:20
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about groups22:20
Walzmyn:(22:20
Walzmyn!nvidia22:20
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto22:20
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engineerkuser01 ls -ls22:21
engineerls -la22:21
kuser01!users22:21
ubottuTo add new users to your Ubuntu system, follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddUsersHowto - For administrative privileges, users need to be made members of the group "admin" - See !sudo22:21
Techi can't use my wireless with Ubuntu22:21
Techplease help22:22
Techi'm using DELL INSPIRON 150122:22
kuser01how can I prevent a user from accessing a specific file or device?22:22
engineerTech http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=6&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntu1501.com%2F2007%2F10%2Fwireless-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html&ei=IXS0SN-PJZK2wQHp4OS3CA&usg=AFQjCNFP29b49M510iqB4pR04LmwMSdnnA&sig2=62G9uzCcvDCaCrWEx-JM3g22:23
Techthank you22:23
engineerkuser01 make sure he doesn't belong to the allowed groups22:25
engineerand remove read permission from others22:25
kuser01engineer: what do you mean by "others"22:26
kuser01engineer: where can I read about which groups are allowed and which ones are not allowed?22:27
techsupportWelcome everyone!22:27
Walzmynkuser01, each file has premissions for owner, group and others22:27
WalzmynThis dosen't make any sence - I'm trying to edit the xorg.conf via nvidia's gizmo....22:28
kuser01Walzmyn: when I try to change the permissions it says I do not have sufficient access to the file. When I'm trying to change those permissions I'm logged in as root or as an administrator.22:28
WalzmynIt's not saving anything to the xorg.conf file and giving an error about not being able to write on the BACKUP - but it's got root privlidiges22:28
Walzmynkuser01, what file?22:28
kuser01Walzmyn: Typically a USB thumbdrive or some other device where I have stored private data.22:29
kuser01Walzmyn: does the file structure on the device make a difference? It was formated as FAT32.22:30
Walzmynkuser01, I dunna, just tried it and i don't have that problem, sorry.22:31
Walzmynah, yes, kuser0122:31
kerncoWhere do I ask questions about Intrepid?22:31
Walzmynkuser01, fat does not have the same permission structure that linux filesystems do22:31
Walzmynit may not be ABLE to change to what ever you're trying to change it to.22:31
WalzmynI'm not sure, I don't know the differences between the two.22:32
kuser01Walzmyn: What file structure would you advise I use when formating the device in order to get file permissions to work correctly?22:32
Walzmynkuser01, is it ever going to see a windows comptuer?22:32
Walzmynkernco, I don't know, but I got yelled at yesterday for asking in here.22:32
Walzmyn!intrepid22:32
ubottuAlpha Software: Intrepid Ibex is the code name for K/ubuntu 8.10, due October 2008 - #ubuntu+1 for discussion. Kubuntu Intrepid will have KDE 4 as the default Desktop Environment - see  https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuIntrepidVersion | Warning lots of breaking software between now and October!22:32
kuser01Walzmyn: Probably not any more. Kubuntu is rocken solid and I'm not having any problems any more other than figuring out how to use it.22:33
kerncoOk, I wasn't sure if #ubuntu+1 was just for the Gnome distro or not22:33
The_ManU_212hi, anyone can tell me if my drives are ok? especially ecc and seek-time-performance? http://pastebin.com/m42102a1722:33
Walzmynkuser01, then i'd use ext3, but Fat32 is the defacto standard for stuff that has to go between OS's22:34
Walzmynkernco, did you have any rouble downloading and installing?22:34
kuser01Walzmyn: Thanks, I think you've just helped me solve this.22:34
Walzmynkernco, I tried to install it ina virtual box, but it kept giving errors22:35
kerncoNo, my problem is that after updating it yesterday I get the error "No greeter plugin found. Check configuration." when kdm starts22:35
Walzmynhehe, I read no Greater plugin found - I thought, well, will a lesser one do?22:36
DarkriftXcan kde be reinstalled in single user mode?22:37
DarkriftXmy laptop drive is dead, i want to copy the whole drive to a new drive and reinstall kde (kde wont boot, some corrupted files)22:37
dwidmannDarkriftX:  yes. "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" should do the trick. There are quite a few good ways to copy the whole drive too.22:50
DarkriftXhrmmmmm22:50
DarkriftXcool22:50
DarkriftXok, i have a usb drive attatched to /stuff and i want to backup the whole drive to that drive (minus that folder of course), how would i go about that (i dont know how to tell it to skip the /stuff folder)22:53
dwidmannDarkriftX: it should skip that folder automatically22:54
DarkriftXusing cp ?22:54
dwidmannDarkriftX: sure22:54
DarkriftXnice22:54
dwidmannother good options are things like using dd to copy the whole partition bit-for-bit22:55
DarkriftXi got used to windows again since my laptop was down... windows doesnt do nice things for you22:55
DarkriftXim thinking that wouldnt help me much22:55
DarkriftXsince the drive is partially corrupted22:55
dwidmannDarkriftX: maybe dd_rescue then22:56
derduiHi, does anybody of you know a free and legal version of the java runtime environment for mozilla firefox? I have allready installed flashplugin- nonfree22:56
DarkriftXim going to first try to just do a plain install and then copy the files i need from my backup22:56
DarkriftXif that doesnt work right, ill format and copy the backup, then try to install kubuntu over the backup22:56
DarkriftXor vice versa22:56
DarkriftXso cp / /stuff22:59
DarkriftXthat should work to bacup the whole drive?22:59
The_ManU_212hi, anyone can tell me if my drives are ok? especially ecc and seek-time-performance? http://pastebin.com/m42102a1723:03
dwidmannThe_ManU_212: I've never really looked at smartctl before ... but a lot of mine are reading old_age and pre-fail too :(23:08
dwidmannand by a lot I mean all of them, on both my drives23:09
The_ManU_212dwidmann: oh...but i think my problem is only ecc and seek time performance23:09
thedarkhello everyone I have a Toshiba laptop and have installed Kubuntu and everything I need fine, but for some reason Kubuntu doesn't recognize headphones when I put them into the headphone jack23:22
ercan_hello23:22
thedarkthe sound just keeps coming out of the speakers and nothing out of the headphones23:23
ccj_thedark : open Kmix23:23
thedarkokay it is opn23:24
thedark*open23:24
Sixofourcan anyone here answer some questions?23:24
Sixofour:D23:24
Sixofourcontemplating on switching to kubuntu but unsure of the level that kubuntu and wine are at, and if they can fullfill my needs23:25
ccj_thedark : can you see the headphone scollbar ?23:25
szakulecwine's updated within a few days of a new release, and is provided through a separate repository23:25
thedarkI see master and PCM23:25
szakulec(the new versions any way)23:25
Alex135thedark: i have the same problem. i have a Toshiba Sattelite A135-S4666 and it has alwase done that for me... never did come up with a solution so far (although i havn't really tried much either)23:26
thedarkI have a Toshiba Satellite also :(23:27
thedarkdamn now it looks like I have to switch distros :(23:28
thedarkbut if ubuntu doesn't support it what would?23:28
szakulecdon't feel bad- I have a Satellite as well, and fixed my issue23:28
thedark? how did you do it23:28
szakulecI filed a bug on the alsa bug tracker, and then compiled my own copy of ALSA23:28
thedarkoh geeze23:29
Alex135thedark: i just plugged in a USB headset and told it to go and output audio through it. Works fine! :)23:29
thedarkI can't do that23:29
thedarkdid audio stop coming through the speakers?23:29
Alex135ya23:29
thedarkand I have a lot of non-usb eq23:29
Alex135i used USB23:29
Alex135but you gotta tell it manually23:29
szakulecthe easiest way is to right-click on Kmix, pick select master channel, and choose headphone23:29
Alex135it wont switch automatically23:29
* Alex135 tries it23:30
Alex135nope23:30
thedarkI could live with that23:30
thedarkhow do I change the master channel?23:31
Alex135thedark: was a long time ago and i dont remember how :P thats the one problem23:31
Alex135its in alsamixer but i dont remember what i do23:31
Alex135brb23:31
Alex135door bell23:31
szakulecright click on the KMix icon, choose select master channel, and choose what you want23:31
thedarkall it allows me to choose is master and pcm23:32
thedarkits just not detecting the headphones :-P23:33
szakulecthat means your sound driver is missing the bit that handles headphone plugging23:33
thedarkis there a way to fix it that doesn't involve recompiling?23:34
szakulecthere's a list of options you can pass to your sound driver that may get more things working: search for your laptop model plus ALSA23:35
Alex135szakulec: i have a similer model of laptop as him and i have all of the options... but non of them work when i select them as the master channel23:36
szakulecthat's a good and bad thing- the hope is that you'll only need the options temporarily while the driver is upgraded to handle that special case23:37
Sixofourhrm, should i switch to kubuntu?23:39
thedarkif it works with your hardware23:39
thedarkits great in that case!23:39
Sixofouri have an ATi Radeon x1300 i am worried about23:39
Sixofourand configuing wine will be scary23:39
The_ManU_212is tehre in kde default a action for ctrl+f1 or shift+f1?23:39
thedarkwell thanks guys, I'll see what I can do23:39
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lokHello this is life or death i really really need help SOS!!!, i installed Google Earth (the .bin) and everything was good, until i open it and when i start searching, when comes to the place it DISSAPPEAR!! it close totally by itself!! i need help is for a job!!! SOS!!! thenks so muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh23:44
coreymon77lok: why do you need google earth23:45
loki needed for a work in the university please help!23:46
coreymon77no clue23:46
lokplease someone help me i have to finish it today!23:47
rickestlok: did it ever work?23:48
rickestlok: and did you install the version from ubuntu repositories or one you downloaded from google?23:49
lokfrom google23:50
rickestlok: remove that and try: apt-get install googleearth-4.323:50
mschiffhello23:50
mschiffare there kde 3.5.10 packages available for hardy?23:50
loki saw that the version in the repositories is very old23:50
loksince the first time it does this23:51
rickestlok: the GoogleEarth page itself is for downloading 4.3.  same versions23:51
lokwell it says in the repositories that its version 0.4 or somethin'23:51
rickestlok: do you want help or do you want to argue.  USE APT-GET INSTALL23:52
nicolaSalve!Qualcuno conosce un software per Ubuntu che riconosce il Samsung SGH-ZV40?23:53
rickest!.pr23:53
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about pr23:53
rickest!.es23:53
ubottuEn la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.23:53
rickest!.br23:53
ubottuPor favor use #ubuntu-br ou #ubuntu-pt por ajuda em português. Obrigado.23:53
loksorry but it says that's not found23:54
nicolaSorry!It's my first time here.Do you know an Ubuntu phonr mobile application that recognize Samsung SGH-ZV40?23:55
rickestnicola: sorry, I don't  :(23:55
loksorry it says that google earth is not found!!23:56
nicolaThanks, it's no very important...23:56
rickestlok: did you type what I wrote above "remove that and try"....23:57
rickestlok: and you'll probably need 'sudo' in front of that, I was assuming you already knew that23:58
lokof course i put sudo23:58
rickestk, it's installing then?23:59

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