[00:10] <vicente> hola
[00:11] <vicente> quine anda ahi
[00:11] <thorsten_> Good night, and good luck
[00:31] <bdizzle> what would cause a server to actively refuse your connection on IRC?
[00:32] <Dr_willis> may be a ban?
[00:32] <bdizzle> not that I am aware of
[00:33] <Hydrogen> the server having problems.
[00:33] <Dr_willis> look for any informational messages also..   :) could be it dont like you
[00:34] <bdizzle> [19:33] [Info] Looking for server irc.freenode.net:6667...
[00:34] <bdizzle> [19:33] [Info] Server found, connecting...
[00:34] <bdizzle> [19:33] [Error] Connection to Server irc.freenode.net lost: connection actively refused. Trying to
[00:34] <Hydrogen> It's probably just one of the servers in the rotation having issues
[00:34] <Hydrogen> and/or you have too many connections open to the server at once
[00:34] <Hydrogen> ask #freenode
[00:43] <Daisuke_Ido> stupid ipod shuffle :(
[00:43]  * Dr_willis hands Daisuke_Ido  a hammer.
[00:56] <Daisuke_Ido> i *might* have found a solution, but it's a very very long shot
[00:56] <Daisuke_Ido> it was completely borked
[00:57] <Daisuke_Ido> my fiancee's is fine
[00:57] <Daisuke_Ido> so...  you see where i'm going with this, right?
[00:58] <Dragnslcr> Buy a real media player?
[00:59] <Daisuke_Ido> i have a sansa, but i got the ipod on an impulse buy
[00:59] <Daisuke_Ido> but no, that's not where i was going
[00:59] <Daisuke_Ido> dd hers to a backup, and dd the backup to mine
[00:59] <Daisuke_Ido> worth a shot
[01:00] <Daisuke_Ido> it probably won't work
[01:01] <Daisuke_Ido> but i don't have any better ideas at this point
[01:03] <aaron1> my monitor is going nuts after enabling compiz my screen is stuck at top right area while the bottom is covered by some other wallpaper due to this i'm unable to view my lower area to change my resolution. can i open system settings through konsole ?
[01:05] <bdizzle> kcontrol
[01:05] <geek_> Daisuke_Ido: actually you might be able to restore it with itunes, but unfortunately you need a windows system or a mac
[01:06] <aaron1> how can i open kcontrol from konsole
[01:06] <Guest36573> just type it aaron1 (?)
[01:07] <aaron1> just type kcontrol
[01:07] <Daisuke_Ido> geek_: yeah, but for now, i don't have either of those :)
[01:07] <aaron1> ok oh kewl i'm at work now i'll try when i get home
[01:07] <aaron1> lol man i though my install was screwed up
[01:07] <aaron1> didn't feel like reinstalling thanks a million dbizzle my nizzle
[01:08] <Daisuke_Ido> there's a mac lab and eight or nine large windows labs on campus, so i'll have to check that out *if* this doesn't work
[01:08] <bdizzle> oh it will still be a wreck, but at least this will get you in the right direction
[01:08] <aaron1> lol
[01:08] <aaron1> yea
[01:08] <geek_> Daisuke_Ido: bleh. thats one of the two reasons i keep a few windows systems of various vintages around (one 98 one XP.. else i'm all linux) ;p
[01:09] <Daisuke_Ido> geek_: what's messed up is that i have win2k running in vbox *right now*
[01:09] <pc4> hola
[01:09] <geek_> Daisuke_Ido: does vbox have USB passthrough?
[01:09] <Daisuke_Ido> but itunes requires xp, and vbox-ose doesn't do usb passthrough
[01:09] <Daisuke_Ido> so a double ouch there
[01:09] <geek_> Daisuke_Ido: the former is fixable, the latter, no
[01:09] <Daisuke_Ido> i even tried itunes under wine
[01:09] <pc4> donde cojo wine
[01:09] <geek_> itunes under wine dosen't handle USB right
[01:10] <pc4> donde bajo wine
[01:10] <pc4> pagina
[01:10] <aaron1> any change of my bluetooth motorola headphones working on kubuntu
[01:10] <Daisuke_Ido> geek_: so i've noticed :\
[01:11] <geek_> Daisuke_Ido: i suppose you could use VMware and get a copy of XP from somewhere... i'd note it dosen't even need to be activated
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> this is a possibility
[01:12] <geek_> or a (ewww) vista preview version
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> but i'll go for using the mac lab at school to fix it
[01:12] <Daisuke_Ido> i will NOT touch vista.
[01:12] <geek_> lol
[01:16] <mneptok> Vista touched me inappropriately.
[01:20] <Daisuke_Ido> vista touching anything is inapporopriate, except bins and shredders
[01:21] <geek_> mneptok: you obviously let it ;p
[01:21] <bdizzle> I'm not letting vista touch my /bin
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> yeah, dding from the flash is a lot quicker than dding TO the flash
[01:24] <geek_> lol
[01:24] <geek_> did it work?
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> dunno yet
[01:24] <Daisuke_Ido> 2gb flash, still going
[01:30] <mathieu__> kubuntu-kde4 on aa1: #1 :D
[01:30] <Daisuke_Ido> that dd is still going
[01:31] <Dr_willis> You did tell it a bs argument?
[01:31] <Daisuke_Ido> nope
[01:31] <Daisuke_Ido> because i don't know what the original blocksize was
[01:31] <Daisuke_Ido> or does that not matter?
[01:31] <Daisuke_Ido> if it doesn't matter, i'll be very upset :\
[01:31] <Daisuke_Ido> but it's still going
[01:32] <Dr_willis> just telling dd a bs=1024 or somthing argument will double the speed it works at. :) or similer.
[01:32] <Dr_willis> it makes it much faster. ;) up to a point.
[01:32] <Daisuke_Ido> i'm just hoping it works
[01:33] <Daisuke_Ido> though i'm really not very hopeful
[01:33] <Dr_willis> Im not sure what the origial problem is.
[01:36] <Daisuke_Ido> ipod shuffle.  hosed.
[01:36] <Daisuke_Ido> dded my fiancee's to a backup image
[01:36] <Daisuke_Ido> dding the image to mine
[01:36] <Daisuke_Ido> i don't expect it to work
[01:36] <Dr_willis> dont those things have special serial #'s that bought songs get encoded/tagged with?
[01:37] <Dr_willis> or am i thinking of some other player/drm?
[01:37] <Daisuke_Ido> i use my own tracks
[01:37] <shadowhywind> does anyone know how to test for bad sectors on a disk?
[01:37] <Dr_willis> Yep. All it takes it to get burnt ONCE at the apple store.. and you realize its better go buy the real cd and rip. :)
[01:37] <Dr_willis> badblocks command, which can also be ran by the fsck command shadowhywind
[01:38] <shadowhywind> Dr_willis: that tests the blocks, i want to test sectors (unless they are the same)
[01:38] <Dr_willis> sectors are in the blocks.. or is it the othe rway... i forget...
[01:39] <geek_> Dr_willis: using cds to rip have a lot of advantages over DRMed crap
[01:39] <Dr_willis> egads. old skool info here... :) and i cant rember .
[01:39] <geek_> like the option to use a lossless format and convert ;p
[01:39] <Daisuke_Ido> geek_: yeah, i like choosing my quality
[01:39] <shadowhywind> Dr_willis: hehe, the reason i am asking i have ran badblocks and all checked out, however useing dban nuke cd it errors out with saying bad sectors
[01:40] <Dr_willis> I thought the badblocks command tagged specific blocks as being bad - so they were not used.. dban may be ignoring that info
[01:40] <Dr_willis> at least i THINK thats how badblocks works
[01:49] <gkffjcs> how do I force rsync to include dot files, it seems to ignore them by default
[01:58] <Walzmyn> Does OpenOffice.org have a channel here?
[02:00] <gregory> hi
[02:02] <gregory> i'm using konversation and am trying to add irc.freenode.net
[02:02] <gregory> but i'm getting a lookup error
[02:02] <gregory> when trying to connect to it
[02:06] <Daisuke_Ido> ...he was here wasn't he?
[02:06] <aaron1> wow alot of people dislike vista
[02:07] <aaron1> works like a charm on my system been using it since beta 1
[02:07] <Dr_willis> You are one of the lucky then
[02:07] <aaron1> lol
[02:07] <Dr_willis> Its all about the 'little' stupid annoyances that it does.
[02:07] <aaron1> works great on my old system also
[02:07] <aaron1> athlon 3200
[02:07] <aaron1> no problems
[02:08] <Dr_willis> You are one of the lucky ones then
[02:08] <aaron1> bet you won't use windows 7 either huh
[02:08] <Dr_willis> or unlucky - depending on how you look at  it..
[02:09] <aaron1> well if you call loving every feature mce desktop search game explorer live photo sidebar unlucky
[02:09] <Dr_willis> thats sor tof a big 'issue' really..  there wont be much choice except TO use windows7, since ms will kill off the older os's to force ptople into using W7
[02:09] <aaron1> HELL YEA
[02:09] <Dr_willis> The game explore thing dosent work very well for my system. it misses half my games.. and do i really need a 'special' thing to launch games that have icons in the menus...
[02:10] <Dr_willis> Plus it came filled with 'demoware' of popcap games. :) that i cant figure out how to remove.
[02:10] <aaron1> i have the same problem with my games would have been nice if it was xbox live clone
[02:11] <Omoikane> Anyone have much experience in setting up network printers?
[02:11] <mneptok> "Jim, think of something we can put the word 'Game' into the name. Something the kids will like and want."
[02:11] <Dr_willis> which sort of points out  My big issue with Windows -> i feel as if im being treated as some 'cash cow' the companies just want to sell/market more stuff to...
[02:11] <aaron1> lol
[02:11] <Dr_willis> Omoikane,  i normally use the cups web interface to do that.
[02:11] <mneptok> "I KNOW! GAME EXPLORER!"
[02:11] <aaron1> M$ is a ass of a company but hey you either love em or have em
[02:12] <mneptok> "because, you know, Microsoft products need to use the word 'Explorer' more."
[02:12] <Omoikane> Dr_willis Yeah, I'm trying to get my network printer to print but to no avail. I can get it to print via a direct USB connection but using http doesn't seem to work.
[02:12] <aaron1> i'm beyond exploring just hope there shit work on my pc lol
[02:13] <mneptok> !language aaron1
[02:13] <mneptok> bah
[02:13] <mneptok> !language > aaron1
[02:13] <Dr_willis> Omoikane,  i normally use 'smb' or that hp netdirect or whatever its called method. depends on the printer/printserver
[02:13] <aaron1> my bad sorry
[02:13] <aaron1> crappy*
[02:13] <reid> hi
[02:13] <mneptok> Omoikane: what make/model of printer? how does it present itself on the network (SMB, http, Appletalk...)
[02:14] <reid> i need help please? :(
[02:14]  * reid nub
[02:14] <aaron1> later guys going to play Braid
[02:15] <Reid> Ok, so I just got Kubuntu Remix and updated it so now i got KDE4.1 i think, but I didn't get all the new KDE apps, and I didn't get retard dragonplayer uninstalled, etc.
[02:15] <aaron1> Kubuntu Remix?
[02:15] <Reid> yeeps :d
[02:15] <aaron1> where can i dl it
[02:15] <aaron1> :)
[02:15] <Reid> erm, sec
[02:16] <aaron1> ty
[02:17] <Reid> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-kde4/releases/8.04/release/kubuntu-kde4-8.04.1-desktop-i386.iso
[02:17] <Reid> np <3
[02:17] <aaron1> so what kind of goodies are in this remix
[02:17] <Reid> kde 4.0 :o
[02:18] <Omoikane> mneptok Brother MFC 7240
[02:18] <Reid> so can somebody help me please? :[
[02:18] <aaron1> just read a revoew
[02:18] <aaron1> review* think i'll pass
[02:19] <Reid> okies :P
[02:19] <mneptok> Omoikane: RJ-45 built-in?
[02:19] <Reid> so can somebody help me please?
[02:20] <Omoikane> mneptok RJ-45? not sure.
[02:20] <mneptok> Omoikane: "network plug"
[02:21] <Dr_willis> !kde4
[02:22] <Omoikane> mneptok oh, it a usb built in the router
[02:22] <Reid> Can you help me doc?
[02:23] <Dr_willis> Reid,  with kde4? no.
[02:23] <Dr_willis> like the bot says - Support in #kubuntu-kde4
[02:23] <mneptok> Omoikane: i doubt it will work at all, then
[02:24] <Omoikane> mneptok oh. Why?
[02:24] <Omoikane> mneptok should I connect with ethernet?
[02:25] <Reid> o
[02:25] <Reid> ty
[02:26] <mneptok> Omoikane: i have a Brother laser printer that is built to be networked. it is auto-detected and recognized by Ubuntu without effort. i see no .ppd for the 7240, and it is not even detected. this tells me that it's probably not going to be easy.
[02:27] <mneptok> Reid: KDE4.1 is not on Hardy
[02:27] <Dr_willis> check cups.org - perhaps to see how well the printer is supported
[02:27] <mneptok> Reid: you'll need the PPA to get 4.1
[02:29] <darwin_> is kde 4.1 default on intrepid?
[02:29] <Omoikane> mneptok it's a 7420 sorry
[02:29] <mase_work> darwin_: yes
[02:30] <darwin_> thank you mase_work
[02:30] <mase_work> np
[02:34]  * Daisuke_Ido yawns
[02:34] <Omoikane> mneptok will it still not work?
[02:35] <mneptok> Omoikane: no idea. check out http://openprinting.org
[02:36] <devo_>  how would i know if someone hacked into my computer???
[02:36] <flaccid_> devo_: you may not notice at all
[02:36] <devo_>  but how will i know though, that's the thing?
[02:37] <darwin_> you'll have to dig through logs.
[02:37] <devo_>  like what kind of logs???
[02:37] <flaccid_> devo_: you would have to look and know what you are looking for. why do you expect to know?
[02:38] <devo_>  oh ok, cuz i think someone has hacked into my computer already that's why i wanna know
[02:38] <darwin_> what makes you believe someone hacked you first off...
[02:38] <flaccid_> anyway pretty much an off topic topic, but kubuntu comes with no ports open as no services are installed by default, so via network there is no way to get in
[02:38] <flaccid_> devo_: well, you kind of answered the question yourself. why do you think someone has hacked you? ..
[02:39] <devo_>  cuz the cursor moves by it's self, i can't open up some of my programs that i have on my computer & more
[02:39] <Dr_willis> its a ghost!
[02:39] <Dr_willis> :)
[02:39] <darwin_> more likely something is just wrong with your computer rather than a hacker
[02:40] <flaccid_> devo_: well the first 1 we an look at, the other stuff could be anything and could of been done by you
[02:40] <darwin_> any hacker worth his salt wouldn't move your mouse :)
[02:40] <devo_>  i don't have anything person on my computer, i don't know why someone would hack me that's the thing though
[02:41] <Dr_willis> theres 'paranoid' then theres 'Paranoid' then theres... 'TinFoilHat PARANOID' :)
[02:41] <devo_>  yeah rite
[02:41] <Daisuke_Ido> holy crispy crap on a well-smoked stick
[02:41] <flaccid_> devo_: feel free to pastebin netstat -an | grep -i listen; netstat -tap | grep -i estab and i'll have a look to see if someone is on there heh
[02:41] <Daisuke_Ido> the dd worked.
[02:42] <Dr_willis> ive seen where some dust on my mouse can make it mvoe by itself.. (at least it thinks its moving)
[02:42] <devo_>  through the terminal?
[02:42] <flaccid_> devo_: do it in konsole then paste it into a pastebin
[02:42] <Dr_willis> The pastebinit command will be handy for this task devo_
[02:42] <Dr_willis> !info pastebinit
[02:42] <devo_>  ok i'll try
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> i cannot believe this.
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> it actually worked
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> i love linux :D
[02:43] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  Egads!
[02:43] <Dr_willis> Daisuke_Ido,  marry it!
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> but i'm already getting married :\
[02:43] <Daisuke_Ido> my real wife would get jealous
[02:44] <Daisuke_Ido> and she was laughing enough at me last night when i was refreshing a web page every 5 minutes in anticipation of a game's release
[02:44] <Dr_willis> Dont do it!
[02:44] <darwin_> I've been having this problem with my kubuntu for like 6 months now, nothing i try helps but maybe someone here can help.   whenever i install the nvidia drivers x locks up hard.
[02:44] <Dr_willis> :)  its not too late!
[02:45]  * Dr_willis clears the screen befor his wife walks in
[02:45] <Omoikane> mneptok couldn't find anything
[02:45] <devo_>  flaccid: how do i do the thing that u want me to do, i've been use'n linux for 2 week's so i really don't know that much about terminal command's
[02:46] <jhojan> hola
[02:47] <devo_>  ok instead of trying to find out if someone has hacked into my computer, how can i make it so that ppl CAN'T hack into my computer???
[02:47] <bdizzle> hello jhojan
[02:47] <bdizzle> um, use Firestarter, iptables, etc etc
[02:47] <jhojan> no ingles
[02:47] <bdizzle> espanol?
[02:47] <favro> !es
[02:48] <bdizzle> gracias favro
[02:48] <favro> :)
[02:48] <devo_>  oh ok
[02:48] <bdizzle> de nada jhojan
[02:48] <Dragnslcr> devo_- have you considered just not running servers that you don't know how to handle?
[02:48] <devo_>  but i don't know how to use firestarter though sothat's the thing
[02:48] <bdizzle> ... install it, set it up, ignore it
[02:48] <jhojan> ok gracias
[02:49] <devo_>  yeah i have thought of that but then again, i wanna try to make my computer virturally unhackable but don't know how to, can anyone help me out???
[02:49] <geek_> devo_: switch it off
[02:50] <devo_>  what, my computer?
[02:50] <geek_> yeah ;)
[02:50] <devo_>  i wanna be able to have my computer virurally unhackable while i'm on my computer though that's the the thing
[02:50] <devo_>  lol
[02:51] <geek_> well keep it offline then ;p
[02:51] <devo_>  i don't wanna do that ither
[02:51] <geek_> more practically though a nat router isn't a bad start, as is not running any unneeded services
[02:51] <flaccid_> devo_: goto the kmenu - system and select konsole. paste the command i gave into konsole and then it will output, select it with your paste and copy it then goto http://paste.ubuntu.com and put it in and then give URL back
[02:52] <devo_>  what's the command again???
[02:52] <flaccid> devo_: and as for your second question. linux is secure.
[02:52] <flaccid> devo_: scrollback
[02:54] <flaccid> devo_: its [11:42] <flaccid_> devo_: feel free to pastebin netstat -an | grep -i listen; netstat -tap | grep -i estab and i'll have a look to see if someone is on there heh and if you had of listened before i mentioned how now ports are open by default. also everything is hackable. security is an abitrary word
[02:54] <devo_>  where does the command start from though???
[02:54] <flaccid> netstat -an | grep -i listen; netstat -tap | grep -i estab
[02:55] <Dragnslcr> Judging by this conversation, I get the feeling that there's nothing on your computer that anyone would be interested in
[02:56] <flaccid> hehe
[02:56] <flaccid> and that its probably a faulty mouse :O
[02:57]  * flaccid brb
[02:57] <devo_>  everytime i type in the command line it tell's me this
[02:57] <devo_> devo@devo-desktop:~$ netstat -an | grep -i listen: netstat -tap | grep -i estab
[02:57] <devo_> grep: invalid option -- t
[02:57] <devo_> Usage: grep [OPTION]... PATTERN [FILE]...
[02:57] <devo_> Try `grep --help' for more information.
[02:58] <devo_>  i don't get it
[02:59] <favro> devo_: I get the same error with that command...
[03:00] <devo_>  did i type it in wrong or what does it mean???
[03:00] <devo_>  well besides the error thing
[03:01] <Dragnslcr> Did you copy/paste the command?
[03:02] <Pici> devo_: you put a : instead of a ;
[03:02] <favro>  netstat -an | grep -i listen; netstat -tap | grep -i estab - needs a semicolon after listen
[03:02] <devo_>  oh ok i'll try that then
[03:04] <jhojan> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-es
[03:04] <devo_>  like this
[03:04] <devo_> netsat -an | grep -i listen: netstat -tap | grep -i estab
[03:04] <williamhvkm> hola
[03:05] <williamhvkm> buennas noches
[03:05] <williamhvkm> español???
[03:05] <favro> !es
[03:05] <favro> devo_:  netstat -an | grep -i listen; netstat -tap | grep -i estab
[03:06] <devo_>  got it
[03:07] <devo_>  this is what show's up
[03:07] <devo_> devo@devo-desktop:~$ netsat -an | grep -i listen; netsat -tap | grep -i estab
[03:07] <devo_> bash: netsat: command not found
[03:07] <devo_> bash: netsat: command not found
[03:07] <Pici> devo_: netstat, not netsat
[03:09] <devo_>  got it
[03:09] <ruth> there are actually people herre?
[03:10] <Dragnslcr> ruth- nope, just a lot of bots
[03:10] <ruth> mmmmmmm
[03:10] <devo_>  still tell's me bash command not found
[03:10] <Red_Wraith> Hi! I can't believe I forgot this, but, what's the command to list all disks and partitions?
[03:10] <devo_>  hhhmmm......
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> Red_Wraith- from a shell? df is probably what you want
[03:11] <marcus_> fdisk -l Red_Wraith
[03:11] <ruth> do the people here help others?
[03:11] <Red_Wraith> Thank you.
[03:11] <marcus_> Red_Wraith: Nothing....
[03:11] <flaccid> devo_: to prevent typos, in future simply copy and paste the command :)
[03:11] <devo_>  yes ppl in here do help out other's
[03:11] <Dragnslcr> ruth- no, we just abuse clueless people
[03:12] <Red_Wraith> Hmm... And to check free space?
[03:12] <devo_>  i tried it wont let me
[03:12] <Dragnslcr> df
[03:12] <ruth> can I sign up for abuse?
[03:12] <flaccid> i just copied and pasted the command devo_and it worked fine
[03:12] <Pici> devo_: how are you trying?
[03:12] <marcus_> Red_Wraith:  df -kh
[03:12] <Red_Wraith> Oh. Okay, thank you very much, both of you.
[03:12] <flaccid> devo_: select it in konversation, the press shift+insert to paste it into konsole. i pretty much do this all day here
[03:12] <devo_>  i'm just typ'n
[03:13] <ruth> guess not
[03:14] <devo_>  ok i got something here it is
[03:14] <flaccid> hehe
[03:15] <flaccid> devo_: i showed you the pastebin before
[03:15] <flaccid> !pastebin | devo_
[03:15] <flaccid> you can only paste up to 3 lines in this channel ok
[03:15] <devo_>  srry about that ppl
[03:15] <marcus_> any people instaled Enlightment Desktop ?
[03:17] <devo_>  how do i pastebin???
[03:17] <flaccid> devo_: please start reading what we advise. ubottu just told you
[03:18] <devo_>  ok i'm srry
[03:21] <flaccid> devo_: do you not understand?
[03:22] <devo_>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/40542/
[03:23] <devo_> damn it not again
[03:23] <devo_>  srry about that ppl
[03:23] <devo_>  but did u look @ the url that i gave u???
[03:25] <flaccid> yes and you only have bittorrent, cups and smtp open/listening
[03:25] <devo_>  flaccid
[03:26] <devo_>  ok & what does that mean?
[03:26] <flaccid> and just connections to bittorrent and web. nothing suspicious there. so you probably have a faulty mouse or needs cleaning and the other problem we can look at one by one
[03:27] <devo_>  oh ok
[03:27] <flaccid> because linux is secure, the best thing you can do is use strong passwords. thats the best advice
[03:29] <devo_>  got it, anything else that i should know of?
[03:29] <flaccid> yeah, stop freaking out and making assumptions about being hacked :)
[03:30] <Brazilian_Boy> i need help
[03:30] <devo_>  got it
[03:30] <devo_>  what's the problem?
[03:30] <Brazilian_Boy> man
[03:30] <Brazilian_Boy> frist
[03:30] <Brazilian_Boy> i dont talk englhis very well
[03:30] <Brazilian_Boy> but
[03:31] <Brazilian_Boy> i am new whit linux
[03:31] <Brazilian_Boy> but my video was great
[03:31] <devo_>  well try ur best, if i don't know the answer then someone else will be able to help u
[03:31] <devo_>  i'm new with linux as well so what's up?
[03:31] <Brazilian_Boy> but now i started my computer and my resolution donw!
[03:32] <devo_>  what kind of graphics card do u have?
[03:32] <Brazilian_Boy> nvidia
[03:33] <Brazilian_Boy> geforce 5200
[03:33] <tacosarecool> Hello
[03:33] <Brazilian_Boy> so...
[03:33] <Brazilian_Boy> qhat can i do?
[03:33] <devo_>  i also have nvidia tnt2 moldel 64/64 pro
[03:33] <Brazilian_Boy> what
[03:33] <Brazilian_Boy> was great
[03:34] <tacosarecool> I'm just wondering something what's the best password manager for linux auto fill and submit or keepass
[03:34] <Brazilian_Boy> but today
[03:34] <devo_>  i don't know i never have the problem anyone else wanna try to help Brzilian_Boy out???
[03:34] <tacosarecool> I'll try I doubt I know
[03:34] <tacosarecool> But repost the question anyway
[03:35] <Brazilian_Boy> so man
[03:36] <tacosarecool> I'm just wondering something what's the best password manager for linux auto fill and submit or keepass
[03:36] <Brazilian_Boy> i will turn of my computer and will put again
[03:41] <tacosarecool> I'm just wondering something what's the best password manager for linux auto fill and submit or keepass
[03:41] <voodz> hi i just bought a sony vaio VGN-FW140E ... during install attempts using live cd i get screwed up graphics glitches all over the screen and the install goes into a blank screen. this is using boot off cd to try it out. does anyone have any idea why this is happening?
[03:42] <voodz> i have even tried safe video mode install, i get into the os but there are 1 million mouse cursurs on the screen. and its glitched beyond recognition
[03:42] <snake_> i would suggest asking in #ubuntu
[03:43] <voodz> k thanks
[03:44] <snake_> I definatly wouldent know the answer im fresh over from the fedora side
[03:46] <devo_>   i was woundering is keepassx a good program?
[03:49] <todz>  hi when trying to nun fsck it stops at Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes and nothing else happens... the fs seems fine when I browse it and such but I'm wondering what could be causing this
[03:50] <flaccid> todz: did you give it a decent amount of time to see if it would progress?
[03:51] <coderipper1983> ppal
[03:51] <flaccid> devo_: why don't you give it a try. note that kubuntu already uses something similar called kwallet
[03:51] <devo_>   really?
[03:51] <todz> ya I've done a scan of that partition before so I know it should be progressing, and it is giving no indication that it is doing anything
[03:52] <devo_>  i didn't know that i guess i'm an idot when it come's to linux & i have been use'n linux for the past 2 to 3 week's now wtf is wrong with me
[03:53] <flaccid> devo_: just relax and enjoy it perhaps
[03:53] <flaccid> todz: weird
[03:53] <todz> hhe I've been using linux for 5 years and still need to ask questions devo_
[03:53] <Jack3> flaccid, you there :D
[03:53] <devo_>  yeah i know i was putt'n myself down instead of have'n someone else do it for me  lol
[03:54] <flaccid> no im not
[03:54] <Jack3> flaccid, hehe can you help me for a minute :p
[03:54] <flaccid> always ask the channel instead of hassling helpers
[03:54] <Jack3> flaccid, oh well it was in reference to yesterday
[03:55] <flaccid> sure. no reason to ask, just say, it saves a lot of typing for both parties
[03:55] <todz> hey your right flaccid it's at the next step, usaully doesn't take anywhere near this long, like it should be totally done a couple times by now
[03:55] <Jack3> I changed the linux hdd to be the Master ide boot one, connected directly to the motherboard, and now the xp/vista drive is placed on the pci card. So i reinstalled ubuntu on the main hdd now, using ext3 FS, and it installed grub, but when i start up I now get error 17
[03:55] <flaccid> todz: cool
[03:56] <todz> ya I just ran it with -n this go so I'm running again to see if it fixes anything
[03:56] <Jack3> flaccid, I am guessing something to do with grub configuration or the /etc/fstab
[03:56] <flaccid> Jack3: and do you know what grub 17 is?
[03:56] <jameswf-home> anyone have any idea why an aiccu tunnel works (routes) on eth1 but not eth0
[03:56] <Jack3> flaccid, yeah i encounted it a while ago, though i should look it up again
[03:56] <flaccid> Jack3: negative. grub 17 wouldn't even get up to loading grub entirely...
[03:56] <flaccid> Jack3: yes you should
[03:57] <flaccid> Jack3: http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html
[03:57] <flaccid> and yeah anyone can help with a grub 17 heh
[03:57] <devo_>   where can i find kwallet?
[03:58] <Jack3> ah okay, sorry, well it sounds like its a bios configuration problem possibly?
[03:58] <flaccid> nope
[03:58] <flaccid> where does it mention bios?
[03:58] <todz> kwallet should be installed by default in kubuntu
[03:58] <flaccid> "This error is returned if a device string is recognizable but does not fall under the other device errors."
[03:58] <Jack3> flaccid, oh i was reading this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945
[03:58] <devo_>  where can i find it though in kubuntu?
[03:59] <flaccid> devo_: err just run the command kwallet or its in the menu somewhere
[04:00] <todz> f2 than type kwallet
[04:00] <todz> alt+f2
[04:00] <devo_>  i did & it said can't find
[04:00] <flaccid> Jack3: doesn't mean they are right
[04:01] <flaccid> devo_: are you kde3 or kde4?
[04:01] <todz> kwalletmanager
[04:01] <flaccid> ah yeah my bad sorry
[04:02] <devo_>  where can i find what version of kde i have?
[04:02] <todz> kwallet kind of work by itself though in kde apps like when I type in a password it asks me, never had to bring it up manually
[04:02] <todz> help > about kde    in any application
[04:02] <flaccid> Jack3: do you get to the grub menu or does it go straight to error 17 and if so what else does it say besides error 17
[04:03] <flaccid> devo_: kwin --version in konsole or goto an about box in any kde app
[04:03] <devo_>  kde 3.5.9
[04:03] <devo_>  is what i have
[04:03] <flaccid> ok have fun then with kwallet
[04:03] <Jack3> flaccid, no unforunately just says Loading Grub, error 17, nothing else
[04:04] <devo_>  kwallet isn't installed though that's the thing cuz i even did try to run it by alt+F2 & it said could not run
[04:04] <flaccid> ok. you may have an incorrect device.map. ie. you moved the disks around and now the device.map is wrong
[04:05] <todz> type kwalletmanager
[04:05] <flaccid> devo_: i gave you the wrong command. kwallet is installed by default
[04:06] <Jack3> flaccid, like I said I reinstalled ubuntu..
[04:06] <devo_>  ok but i don't find it though that's the thing
[04:06] <Jack3> flaccid, anyways according to device map my ubuntu hdd is hd 4,0, which seems wrong to me
[04:06] <flaccid> fix it up then
[04:06] <flaccid> devo_: its a wallet icon in your system tray
[04:07] <devo_>  i don't see it there iether
[04:07] <flaccid> devo_: did you run the command that todz keeps on advising over and over ?
[04:08] <devo_>  no cuz i didn't see it i'm srry
[04:08] <todz> or it should be under setting in the KMenu
[04:08] <todz> *settings
[04:09] <Jack3> flaccid, okay i fixed device.map, I put dev/sda (my linux hdd) as hdd0, and i changed menu.list to have all the ubuntu entries point to hdh0,0
[04:09] <Jack3> flaccid, should i reboot and test now?
[04:09] <flaccid> yeah i guess so
[04:12] <Jack3> flaccid, same error but  i had an idea
[04:12] <Jack3> according to my bios my DVD writer is detected as the master slave, should I try putting the dvd writer as slave and the hdd as masteR?
[04:12] <flaccid> hard disks should be masters anyway
[04:12] <flaccid> in preference
[04:13] <devo_>  yes i keep do'n the command of alt+F2 then i type in kwallet then hit enter & it tell's me can't find
[04:13] <devo_>  so i don't know what else to do
[04:13] <flaccid> devo_: we have told you that is not the command about 4 times now
[04:13] <flaccid> devo_: i will give it to you again: kwalletmanager
[04:14] <devo_>  ok i'll try it
[04:14] <devo_>  ok nvm that did work once again i'm an idot when it comes to linux hahahahahaha  man i suck @ linux
[04:15] <flaccid> devo_: just try to read and pay attention more thats all
[04:16] <devo_>  will do now how to i use kwalletmanager?
[04:16] <flaccid> devo_: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdeutils/kwallet/index.html
[04:17] <devo_> thnx
[04:17] <flaccid> np
[04:19] <reboot08> hey
[04:19] <reboot08> whats the command to set irc chan to public?
[04:19] <reboot08> if op
[04:20] <flaccid> reboot08: this is kubuntu support channel
[04:20] <reboot08> k
[04:20] <reboot08> ty
[04:20] <jameswf-home> ipv6 anyone?
[04:20] <todz> heh flaccid you seem to be doing alot of work in here
[04:20] <flaccid> thats what im here for
[04:21] <todz> do you have any computer related training?
[04:22] <illmortal> hey uhm.. flaccid? How come when I click on my slave drive... it tells me permission denied? o.o; It has never done that before!
[04:22] <voroni> Hi, i don't know what happen after search a place in google earth, the program close by itself, what's that please help!!
[04:22] <flaccid> todz: i did some uni, otherwise its all self initiated/from internet like here
[04:23] <flaccid> illmortal: maybe its mounted wrongly or something. go check it out disks & filesystems or mount
[04:23] <todz> ah, ya I have a degree in this computer stuff
[04:23] <todz> but ya I learned most linux still by myself, we had a few classes in it though
[04:25] <voroni> please someone help me i really need it!
[04:25] <illmortal> permission denied on mounting =\
[04:25] <todz> you have to set it to allow non root to mount it or mount it as root
[04:26] <flaccid> !ask | voroni
[04:26] <illmortal> which is preferably done via konsole? :X
[04:26] <flaccid> illmortal: its the users option on the entry in fstab. this can be done in disks & filesystems as well
[04:27] <voroni> ok Hi, Google Earth close by itself when i start a search! help please thenks!
[04:28] <todz> does it close by itself all the time?
[04:28] <voroni> yes
[04:28] <flaccid> voroni: google earth is closed source. not much you can do. you can run it from konsole and see what messages it spits out when it dies
[04:28] <voroni> ok
[04:29] <voroni> it says permission denied
[04:30] <flaccid> voroni: pastebin the whole output please
[04:31] <illmortal> hm... seems when I restarted last time it forgot to mount my drive. restarted x and it mounted :)
[04:32] <mr---t-> !paste
[04:35] <nergar> hello
[04:35] <nergar> i downloaded kde4.1 from launchpad, but I cant open Kword
[04:35] <nergar> where can I create a bug or get help?
[04:35] <nergar> daniel@nergar-lap:~$ /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kword
[04:35] <nergar> /usr/lib/kde4/bin/kword: error while loading shared libraries: libkdecore.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[04:35] <mr---t-> !kde4
[04:36] <nergar> thanks
[04:37] <Artful> I've installed new KDE4 distro, but had to manually add Konversation 1.0.1 I can't seem to grab 1.1
[04:38] <Artful> as I understand it, Konversation is still for KDE3.5 is there any issue running on 4.1?
[04:38] <Jack3> flaccid, ugh stil nothing, got the dvd writer as CH0Slave and ubuntu hdd as ch0 master, still erro 17 :(
[04:39] <flaccid> Artful: no issue and this is not the chan for kde4 support, see topic
[04:39] <flaccid> Jack3: i guess you need to compare sudo fdisk -l with device.map and make sure the order lines up or whatever
[04:40] <Jack3> flaccid, okay
[04:40] <Artful> aha, thanks..
[04:42] <darwin_> where's the administrator button in kde 4.1 system settings?   seems like there should be one...
[04:42] <Jack3> flaccid, whoa i just noticed something, I think when I installed kubuntu this time grub completely installed to the wrong hdd
[04:42] <Jack3> probably because of the slave thing, anyways, I see that under fdisk -l linux does not have a boot mark
[04:43] <flaccid> Jack3: yeah. um who knows what you have done heh :O
[04:43] <Jack3> flaccid, you think it would be a good idea to reinstall now that everything is configured in the right order?
[04:43] <flaccid> darwin_: this is not the chan for kde4, see topic for correct channel
[04:43] <darwin_> thank you flaccid
[04:43] <flaccid> i'd just fix up device.map
[04:43] <psyco> hey guys, kubuntu wont boot up so I used a live cd. I need to reinstall grub but when I try Adept says it can't commit changes
[04:44] <flaccid> !grubfix | psyco also if you are just reinstalling the grub pkg then do it from konsole to see the errors
[04:45] <psyco> http://pastebin.com/m251a0deb    error
[04:45] <Jack3> flaccid, well the device.map currently shows hd0 as /dev/sda not sure what you think i should fix up?
[04:45] <flaccid> !fixgrub
[04:45] <flaccid> Jack3: pastebin sudo fdisk -l and the device.map and i'll look
[04:47] <flaccid> psyco:  thats fine, just means you have not disabled the cdrom apt repos in Adept
[04:47] <psyco> flaccid: the sudo grub stuff would work, except I removed grub beacuse I wanted to reinstall but it only got to the remove part before the error
[04:47] <psyco> oh ok
[04:48] <Jack3> flaccid, http://pastebin.com/m49f3d638
[04:51] <flaccid> Jack3: you believe the bios order of the disks is wat you have in device.map now
[04:53] <Jack3> flaccid, well i know the linux one is correct, but the others I am unsure, is there a way to tell ttheir model number?
[04:53] <Jack3> otherwise i cant really compare it to the bios for the hard drives that are the same size in gb
[04:56] <flaccid> anyone know how to get fdisk to list in bios order?
[04:57] <Jack3> flaccid, i see the only ones I will have trouble with are the two 120gbs
[04:57] <Jack3> does that disk identifier tell me anything?
[04:57] <flaccid> disk identifier?
[04:58] <Jack3> in fdisk -l each disk has a disk identifier like 0xNumBers
[04:58] <flaccid> ah im not sure what that is
[04:59] <Jack3> flaccid, nevermind i found out that hdparm -i /dev/hde shows the serial/model number :D
[05:01] <flaccid> Jack3: cool. so we just have to work out the order and get it correct
[05:01] <Jack3> okay Ive got the bios order, ill pastebin it so i dont lose it
[05:02] <flaccid> k
[05:02] <flaccid> this stuff is so much easier in something like freebsd which uses bios names for the disk devices instead of logical ones
[05:03] <pteague> any ideas?  http://pastebin.com/m4c7474f5
[05:03] <Jack3> flaccid, heh i wish :P
[05:03] <Jack3> flaccid, http://pastebin.com/m13910883
[05:05] <flaccid> Jack3: sorry that helps us how?
[05:09] <illmortal> anyone know if KBFX is broken? o.o;
[05:10] <LoCaLMaChInE> wow got my pc working again what a relief but then when i thought everything was great I got kicked out of the ubuntu channel
[05:11] <flaccid> Jack3: cat /proc/diskstats please
[05:11] <Jack3> flaccid, thats the physical bios list
[05:11] <flaccid> ooo can i have a looksy
[05:11] <LoCaLMaChInE> I was  having trouble last night trying to get into the ubuntu channel now I got kicked out
[05:12] <flaccid> LoCaLMaChInE: #ubuntu-ops if you want to get unbanned
[05:12] <Jack3> flaccid, its http://pastebin.com/m13910883
[05:12] <LoCaLMaChInE> flaccid type that in the channel box
[05:13] <flaccid> Jack3: i was after cat /proc/diskstats
[05:13] <Jack3> flaccid, oh okay, one sec
[05:13] <flaccid> LoCaLMaChInE: yeah /join #ubuntu-ops
[05:13] <LoCaLMaChInE> gotcha thanx appreciate that
[05:13] <flaccid> Jack3: well you show me the lables but i don't have any way to match them up with the fdisk entries
[05:13] <Jack3> flaccid, Hdd size
[05:14] <flaccid> ok i look
[05:14] <flaccid> Jack3: eg. raid 2 ultra D2 WDC WD1200JB-00G <--- i don't see a size
[05:14] <Jack3> flaccid, oh sorry, its in the model
[05:14] <Jack3> wd120=120gb
[05:14] <Jack3> wd2500=250gb
[05:15] <tacosarecool> Is there a way to reset my kde wallet password?
[05:15] <Jack3> flaccid, you still want cat /proc/diskstats?
[05:15] <flaccid> yes
[05:16] <tacosarecool> How do I reset my kde wallet password?
[05:17] <tacosarecool> Anyone?
[05:17] <flaccid> i someone knows they will respond, no need to say Anyone?
[05:17] <Jack3> flaccid, not sure if i can get you that haha, my internet isnt working on the live cd anymore
[05:17] <LoCaLMaChInE> flaccid I am in the ubuntu ops rooom now what
[05:18] <Jack3> LoCaLMaChInE, tell them you got banned and need to get unbanned please, and wait for a response?
[05:18] <LoCaLMaChInE> ok
[05:19] <tacosarecool> flaccid
[05:20] <tacosarecool> flaccid
[05:20] <flaccid> stop that
[05:20] <tacosarecool> Oh sorry
[05:20] <devo_>  how can one convert jpg to png in linux?
[05:20] <tacosarecool> Gimp
[05:20] <tacosarecool> Under graphics
[05:21] <tacosarecool> But is there a way to reset my kde wallet password
[05:21] <devo_>  thnx
[05:21] <tacosarecool> your welcome
[05:21] <Jack3> tacosarecool, you probably shouldn't ask three times.
[05:21] <tacosarecool> Sorry
[05:23] <flaccid> tacosarecool: don't repeat please
[05:23] <LoCaLMaChInE> looks like I am not getting a response
[05:23] <flaccid> tacosarecool: google also finds the answer to your question pretty fast..
[05:24] <Jack3> LoCaLMaChInE, you gotta be patient
[05:24] <flaccid> !kwallet | tacosarecool
[05:24] <LoCaLMaChInE> ur right patience
[05:24] <LoCaLMaChInE> I love the name tacosarecool
[05:25] <flaccid> i havnt been banned for a while. from experience you could be waiting hours sometimes
[05:25] <Jack3> flaccid, okay so I edited my device.map to make sure it is in the same order as the bios config, and for the menu.lst, should it be (hd0,0) ?
[05:25] <Jack3> flaccid, and yes hd0 is the /dev/sda the linux hdd
[05:25] <LoCaLMaChInE> flaccid don't tell me that
[05:26] <Jack3> haha
[05:28] <Jack3> flaccid, well even after editing device map and rebooting, I am still getting error 17, I am wondering if maybe I should reinstall grub
[05:28] <flaccid> Jack3: yeps
[05:28] <flaccid> Jack3: no idea sorry
[05:28] <LoCaLMaChInE> burritosareyummy
[05:29] <Jack3> flaccid, one thing though, I was looking at a grub reinstal thread and it said from the grub prompt do /boot/grub/stage1   , it returned hd(4), even after i edited the devicemap... that seems wrong no?
[05:29] <flaccid> Jack3: you need a grub expert or to research more perhaps. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=442945  may help
[05:30] <LoCaLMaChInE> has anyone ever deleted xorg server
[05:30] <flaccid> Jack3: you did that from grub prompt in livecd ?
[05:30] <Jack3> flaccid, yes
[05:31] <flaccid> well it would of booted the device.map on the livecd... hd(4) suggests the fdisk order is correct
[05:32] <Jack3> flaccid, oh hmm, i think i might mnt and chroot into the kubuntu installation and see what grub returns then
[05:33] <discombobulated>  i downloaded firefox from the site, i click on it and it won't run. anyone know why?
[05:34] <p_quarles> discombobulated, any particular reason you won't use the Ubuntu package for Firefox?
[05:35] <discombobulated> i just need a portable version. will the dl'ed one act as a portable one?
[05:35] <p_quarles> yes, we got that
[05:35] <p_quarles> ^ disregard
[05:35] <flaccid> discombobulated: there is #firefox also you should run it from konsole to see the problem
[05:35] <p_quarles> discombobulated, it can; did you untar it?
[05:36] <tacosarecool> Lol I just had to delete .kwl
[05:36] <tacosarecool> Thanks
[05:36] <discombobulated> yes, i untarred it. i googled "portable firefox" + linux and it seems there is no portable firefox officially for linux so i thought it wouldn't work
[05:38] <Jack3> flaccid, okay so after chrooting in, I find that running /boot/grub/stage1 shows (hd4,0) and it should be (hd0,0)  anything I can do?
[05:38] <p_quarles> discombobulated, the portable edition of Firefox is a Windows program; but the Linux binary from Mozilla is a standalone app, so is "portable" in a sense
[05:38] <p_quarles> discombobulated, that said, it's not part of Kubuntu, and isn't really on-topic here
[05:38] <LoCaLMaChInE> I hate kubuntu no offense
[05:39] <dwidmann> good for you :)
[05:39] <Jack3> LoCaLMaChInE, why would you say that in a #kubuntu channel?
[05:39] <discombobulated> p_quarles, good enough. i'm on vista atm so i forgot the exact problem i had but thanks
[05:39] <LoCaLMaChInE> stupid me but I say it because my pos comp wouldn't work with it
[05:39] <LoCaLMaChInE> other than that that was my only beef
[05:39] <dwidmann> LoCaLMaChInE: shouldn't you hate the pos comp then?
[05:39] <discombobulated> LoCaLMaChInE, that's not likely because of kde
[05:39] <LoCaLMaChInE> that too
[05:40] <flaccid> Jack3: i guess (hd4)   /dev/sda
[05:40] <dwidmann> You don't have to be anal or anything, but just picking out something reasonably compatible with linux goes a long way LoCaLMaChInE
[05:40] <dwidmann> LoCaLMaChInE: the choosier you are the more luck you will have.
[05:40] <discombobulated> i have a love/hate affair with linux as i do windows. vista pissed me off today. i started using onboard and took my sound card out and get the register vista crap
[05:41] <LoCaLMaChInE> well kde was sort of giving me problems but for some odd reason my hdd went sour so I guess ur right my comp
[05:41] <Jack3> flaccid, not anymore remember? hd0=/dev/sda
[05:41] <flaccid> Jack3: im saying thats what it should be in the device.map
[05:41] <LoCaLMaChInE> well I need another motherboard for starters but my bank is broke
[05:41] <flaccid> so it connects. put it on first line
[05:42] <flaccid> i can't say im now this grub stuff indepth either Jack3
[05:42] <Jack3> flaccid, I'm confused, the bios order has /dev/sda as hd0,0
[05:42] <flaccid> maybe it doesn't get registered that way. yes im confused too. maybe your bios puts it in a dif order
[05:42] <LoCaLMaChInE> yeah I heard vista was buggy
[05:43] <flaccid> !ot | LoCaLMaChInE
[05:43] <LoCaLMaChInE> oh ok was commenting on the vista comment
[05:44] <discombobulated> to be fair, it's not like anyone else is talking and he's using valuable screen space with people who have questions regarding kubuntu
[05:44] <flaccid> this channel is for giving support or asking for it in respect to kubuntu, everything else goes in the off topic channel
[05:44] <jameswf-home> on topic anyone have any idea wht aiccu will route over eth1 (wirelsee) but not eth0 (wired) ni iptables...
[05:45] <LoCaLMaChInE> I had some bad luck with kde but I will give it a shot next time when I have a descent rig
[05:45] <flaccid> jameswf-home: try ##networking and/or #iptables
[05:45] <discombobulated> LoCaLMaChInE, maybe you should try a lightweight window manager
[05:46] <jameswf-home> flaccid: thats a cop out and since iptables and networking are both part of the kubuntu kernel build this is the place
[05:46] <LoCaLMaChInE> ubottu am I being off topic some how
[05:46] <jameswf-home> flaccid: had i added them to the base os that would be correct
[05:47] <mr---t-> !ask | LoCaLMaChInE
[05:47] <flaccid> jameswf-home: i was giving you additional options. kubuntu doesn't come with a firewall installed so not many people here can help you. if there was they would of helped you already which is why i suggested those channel. its not a cop out because this is all free support that you are not paying for
[05:47] <LoCaLMaChInE> yeah need something great for kde don't get me wrong I love kde just my dust box  won't support
[05:47] <flaccid> jameswf-home: i didn't say you were off-topic.
[05:47] <jameswf-home> flaccid that is incorrect Kubuntu comes with iptables though if you read the question was not a firewall question
[05:48] <flaccid> yes but no rules and you mentioned iptables. anyway complaining doesn't fix anything does it
[05:48] <p_quarles> calling iptables a firewall is kinda like calling a hunk of molten steel a padlock :)
[05:49] <jameswf-home> flaccid: then stop if you have nothing valid to say dont say anything
[05:49] <LoCaLMaChInE> Heres a question does anyone have a problem with me being here
[05:49] <p_quarles> unless it's shaped into something useful, it doesn't do anything
[05:49] <jameswf-home> troll
[05:49] <flaccid> jameswf-home: i've been giving you valid resopnses. like i said complaining doesn't fix your problem.
[05:50] <jameswf-home> p_quarles: iptables is the ultimate padlock a base deny will keep everyone(including the user) out :)
[05:51] <discombobulated> jameswf-home, he's not a troll. he's here a lot and usually very helpful. if you have a question, complaining won't get the answer
[05:51] <jameswf-home> like a safe with glass interlocks
[05:52] <jameswf-home> discombobulated: again if you have nothing constructive keep it to your self.
[05:52] <LoCaLMaChInE> where can I get a good motherboard that will support kde or kubuntu
[05:52] <discombobulated> jameswf-home, back to you
[05:52] <jameswf-home> LoCaLMaChInE: Gigabyte and most AMD ae good with linux
[05:53] <jameswf-home> *are
[05:53] <LoCaLMaChInE> really what about asus
[05:53] <Jack3> jameswf-home, it would be wise not to be a dick to the people whom you ask help from.
[05:53] <discombobulated> LoCaLMaChInE, i'm using an ip35 pro, compatible with vista, xp, linux, and osx. very flexible and good overclocker
[05:53] <jameswf-home> Jack3: I am only being a dick to those whom arent helpful
[05:53] <jameswf-home> :)
[05:53] <LoCaLMaChInE> yeah thats what I talking about
[05:54] <LoCaLMaChInE> discom. amd?
[05:54] <discombobulated> LoCaLMaChInE, intel based
[05:54] <flaccid> asus is good and most will work fine if they are new etc.
[05:55] <LoCaLMaChInE> ok how much u pau
[05:55] <LoCaLMaChInE> pay
[05:55] <dwidmann> LoCaLMaChInE: most desktops will work okay with linux, laptops are the devil.
[05:55] <discombobulated> i paid $160?
[05:55] <Jack3> flaccid, is there anyway to tel how the kubuntu installer enumerates hdd's? at the end of in the install it has an advance doption that shows install boot loader checked and it says instlal to (hd0) , how do i know what hd0 is?
[05:56] <LoCaLMaChInE> not bad thats about average. with or without processor
[05:56] <p_quarles> I'm on a laptop that I paid $180 for; it's old and a bit slow, but runs Linux fine; some used shops will let you try out a live disk if you ask
[05:56] <discombobulated> LoCaLMaChInE, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813127030
[05:56] <flaccid> Jack3: good question i guess you could work it out if you went to a tty. really not my forte this stuff
[05:57] <LoCaLMaChInE> yeah newegg is great
[05:57] <LoCaLMaChInE> good stuff
[05:57] <Jack3> flaccid, no idea on that heh
[05:57] <flaccid> Jack3: do you have ttys ie. ctrl+alt+f2
[05:57] <discombobulated> p35 is about $100 now, w/out cpu
[05:57] <jameswf-home> so anyone here who know their way around outside a GUI ?
[05:57] <LoCaLMaChInE> I had some issues with the hard drive earlier it was dying
[05:58] <discombobulated> Jack3, check your bios. it will be the first hdd to boot, i assume
[05:58] <Jack3> flaccid, I am using the installer from the booted livecd, so I still have konsole access etc
[05:58] <flaccid> jameswf-home: yes
[05:58] <LoCaLMaChInE> I may look into that I need another mobo
[05:58] <Jack3> discombobulated, if only it were that easy
[05:59] <jameswf-home> I find hat unlikely anyone else...
[05:59] <jameswf-home> *that
[05:59] <flaccid> Jack3: tbh im pretty confused on this stuff now
[05:59] <LoCaLMaChInE> this maybe off topic but does anyone have wine?
[05:59] <jameswf-home> wow ok
[05:59] <Jack3> wow that jameswf was a retard haha
[06:00] <flaccid> you get em
[06:00] <discombobulated> Jack3, i was actually wonderin the same thing a few days ago when installing kubuntu. i still don't know which one it installed on, lol. i'll have to toy with the bios. i got 4 hdd's and 10 partitions
[06:00] <discombobulated> LoCaLMaChInE, yes
[06:00] <LoCaLMaChInE> how is it
[06:00] <LoCaLMaChInE> good bad
[06:00] <Jack3> discombobulated, eek, my problem is a big pain because im using the single motherboard IDE channel + a PCI Ide card with 2 more ide channels for a total of 5 hard drives
[06:01] <discombobulated> LoCaLMaChInE, well, i'm running steam games off of it. HL2 runs fine
[06:01] <flaccid> Jack3: tried #grub or ##grub ?
[06:01] <LoCaLMaChInE> really hmm I was considering that too I heard of a media center for linux u tried that
[06:02] <discombobulated> Jack3, to make it easy for me with lots of drives, i just take them all out and run the one i'm installing linux on
[06:02] <Jack3> flaccid, yes unfortunately no response as of yet
[06:02] <Jack3> discombobulated, Well I also have vista and XP installed on the other hdd
[06:02] <discombobulated> LoCaLMaChInE, no, haven't tried it
[06:02] <flaccid> LoCaLMaChInE: take your ramblings to #kubuntu-offtopic please
[06:03] <LoCaLMaChInE> ok just wondering if it worked or not read up on it
[06:03] <discombobulated> jack3, you could set them up in your grub menu later
[06:03] <flaccid> discombobulated: device.map needs to be correct and work first
[06:03] <Jack3> flaccid, well i am going to just reinstall and pray it works :p
[06:03] <flaccid> Jack3: maybe only put one entry in the device.map for the boot disk and thats it so ignores the others
[06:04] <discombobulated> flaccid, oh, wasn't aware
[06:04] <flaccid> Jack3: or maybe chrooting and doing grub-update or reinstall might work, either way good luck, sorry i couldn't help fix
[06:05] <Jack3> flaccid, no no thanks, you've helped a lot, I have a feeling this might do it, maybe :p
[06:05] <discombobulated> so what's grub-update do? it sees all drives and auto-configures? if so, it's what i was looking for yesterday but i already got them manually set up
[06:05] <flaccid> Jack3: yeah cool. i was thinking this before but then read on the grub manual how it has no idea how to create a device.map so maybe the dpkg scripts do it, not sure
[06:06] <LoCaLMaChInE> if I was to update to another version of ubuntu lets say kubuntu new version without torrents how do I do that
[06:06] <flaccid> discombobulated: see man update-grub
[06:06] <flaccid> !upgrade | LoCaLMaChInE
[06:06] <flaccid> LoCaLMaChInE: you can't upgrade via torrents.
[06:06] <LoCaLMaChInE> do I sense a little hostility from flaccid
[06:07] <discombobulated> flaccid, i'll remember it. i'm on vista atm. mythtv pissed me off and i got to have my olympics
[06:07] <flaccid> i smell a troll
[06:07] <LoCaLMaChInE> I am not a pro
[06:07] <flaccid> LoCaLMaChInE: please goto #kubuntu-offtopic if you want ramble
[06:07] <LoCaLMaChInE> I am still sort of new to this
[06:07]  * p_quarles seconds flaccid's request
[06:08]  * claydoh thirds it
[06:08] <discombobulated> LoCaLMaChInE, irc?
[06:08]  * Jack3 quadruples it
[06:08] <LoCaLMaChInE> am I doing something wrong here I need to know
[06:08] <LoCaLMaChInE> does someone have a clash with me with my questions or
[06:09] <flaccid> LoCaLMaChInE: only talk if you need help with something kubuntu specific otherwise don't talk
[06:09] <discombobulated> LoCaLMaChInE, not wrong, just inconvenient if i had to say. i usually don't mind offtopic chat myself though
[06:09] <flaccid> LoCaLMaChInE: you are not even on kubuntu so ...
[06:09] <discombobulated> if the place is busy with people needing real help with kubuntu, wouldn't be a good time for offtopic chat
[06:10] <LoCaLMaChInE> flaccid I am trying to have a conversation that is related to linux which includes kubuntu
[06:10] <claydoh> we have plennty of channels for off topic stuff
[06:10] <mr---t-> this place is not for conversations it's for questions
[06:10] <claydoh> #kubuntu-offtopic is perfect for that
[06:11] <LoCaLMaChInE> well I am not trying  to have a conversation but questions related to linux which is why I am here
[06:11] <flaccid> LoCaLMaChInE: don't do it here
[06:11] <p_quarles> LoCaLMaChInE, off-topic chatter is considered rude because people idle here, waiting for support questions
[06:11] <p_quarles> when you activate the channel for non-support stuff, you are alerting people to stuff they don't necessarily want to hear
[06:12] <p_quarles> it's like telephone marketing -- that's why people are getting irked
[06:12] <LoCaLMaChInE> apparently I am off topic but I am not I have had some issues and trying to resolve with kubuntu
[06:12] <mr---t-> !ask
[06:12] <flaccid> please don't make me get an operator
[06:12] <Jack3> LoCaLMaChInE, you seem to be trolling
[06:12] <bazhang> LoCaLMaChInE, join #freenode
[06:12] <LoCaLMaChInE> yes I know I am asking for help
[06:12] <Jack3> haha
[06:13] <flaccid> LoCaLMaChInE: last warning.
[06:13] <mr---t-> specific kubuntu help?
[06:13] <LoCaLMaChInE> yes
[06:19] <LoCaLMaChInE> :-[
[06:24] <Jack3> ahh he left the buildin
[06:25] <Jack3> flaccid, haha same error :'(
[06:25] <Jack3> flaccid, though I think i shall boot in the livecd and double check that device.map is correct
[06:25] <illmortal> what program do you use to change login splash?
[06:25] <flaccid> yeah that error doesn't tell us much does it Jack3
[06:26] <Jack3> flaccid, haha no, it makes me rather upset! :X
[06:26] <flaccid> illmortal: its in system settings
[06:26] <illmortal> o.o;
[06:26] <flaccid> 'Splash Screen' :)
[06:26] <illmortal> appearance?
[06:27] <illmortal> <,< I don't see "splash screen" :X
[06:27] <flaccid> illmortal: you are on kde3?
[06:28] <illmortal> yar :(
[06:28] <flaccid> its definately there in kde3 in general tab
[06:28] <illmortal> general? k
[06:28] <flaccid> you could also try kcontrol
[06:28] <Jack3> flaccid, okay, im convinced grub is installing to the wrong hdd, fdisk -l shows that /dev/sda1 is sill not marked as boot
[06:29] <illmortal> under "look&feel" there's only, "appearance, desktop, window behavior, and notifications"
[06:30] <flaccid> illmortal: hmm under look and feel i have Splash Screen as well
[06:30] <flaccid> try kcontrol i guess
[06:30] <illmortal> k :)
[06:31] <illmortal> ah it was in add/remove, just installed it :)
[06:32] <flaccid> illmortal: which pkg?
[06:32] <illmortal> ksplash
[06:33] <illmortal> splash manager
[06:33] <flaccid> ah i didn't mention that because the desc. was "the KDE splash screen" and not kde splash admin..
[06:34] <illmortal> i see
[06:35] <Jack3> flaccid, give me luck :p I just reinstalled grub to hd4 (for some reason it still recognizes hd4 as my linux partition
[06:35] <illmortal> hm.. apparently I need a plugin called, "moodin"
[06:36] <Jack3> flacid, OMG IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[06:36] <flaccid> Jack3: um i assumed that thats where you had it installed (besides the mbr on first disk)
[06:36] <flaccid> um yeah i would assume it would now
[06:36] <flaccid> i didn't know that you installed it wrong place
[06:36] <Jack3> I didnt know i did eitehrh
[06:37] <flaccid> anyway nice job sir!
[06:37] <Jack3> well i mean one would assume your master ide channel should be hd0 no?
[06:37] <flaccid> well thats how i thought bios would handle it..
[06:37] <Jack3> hence why we redid device.map... i duno, it works and shows winxp/win
[06:37] <Jack3> im happy , thanks for the help man
[06:38] <flaccid> can you show me your device.map and fdisk -l and the cat /proc/diskstats when you booted in Jack3 ?
[06:38] <Jack3> yeah
[06:38] <flaccid> hey np, we both learn from this ..
[06:38] <Jack3> also looks like i will have to do some fixing on the vista/xp installations, both give errors when starting :P
[06:39] <flaccid> yea probably the boot.ini on their behalf if it does launch from grub, otherwise probably bootloader +1 etc.
[06:39] <Jack3> flaccid, shoot me haha
[06:39] <flaccid> boot.ini uses bios locations basically iirc
[06:39]  * flaccid gets out a gun
[06:39] <flaccid> *bang*
[06:39] <Jack3> when i loaded ubuntu... Error 17: cannot mount selected partition
[06:40] <Jack3> never celebrate until you know it works
[06:40] <Jack3> :'(
[06:40] <flaccid> yeah but now you can do find stage1.. and then 'e' and make sure its the same location..
[06:41] <Jack3> flaccid, i believe i did the find stage1 to get to this point no?
[06:41] <Jack3> or do you mean something different?
[06:42] <flaccid> depends if you are talking about the booting the fs where /boot/grub is installed or a different one..
[06:42] <Jack3> flaccid, i basically used the livecd to chroot into the installation, did the find stage 1 command, and then installed to hd4
[06:43] <Jack3> now i do see a post that details the error i get
[06:43] <Jack3> they say its something to do with menu.list
[06:44] <flaccid> yes thats correct. all along i assume that you had installed grub's userland onto the correct fs/partition which is not what happened. my point is that if you want to boot that same fs which has linux on it then the entry in menu.list must have the correct location which is probably hd(4,0) or hd(4,1) ..
[06:45] <Jack3> oh koay
[06:45] <Jack3> okay
[06:46] <flaccid> Jack3: im talking about        root            (hd4,0)   in the grub entry (which is the first directive) after the title
[06:46] <flaccid> or it could be 4,1.. .i lost your paste so not sure if swap is first or not..
[06:48] <illmortal> One last question for the night, flaccid! How do you change the theme of the cursor? :X
[06:48] <flaccid> illmortal: system settings - keyboard & mouse | mouse | cursor theme
[06:49] <flaccid> my g/f is home i have to cook dinner, so cyas later
[06:50] <Jack3> flaccid, im a little lost again, I am following a guide where i chroot into the linux partition, edit device.map to reflect the actual bios boot sequence, and then run grub --device-map=device.map and then type root (hd0,0) but it says it does not exist
[06:50] <Jack3> okay, see ya
[06:50] <illmortal> damn you're good
[06:50] <illmortal> thanks flaccid... have a good one bro :D
[06:52] <flaccid> Jack3: thats not what you should do. its simply a matter of changing root() on the entry to the correct spot. you got to grub with your new device.map
[06:52] <flaccid> anyway experiment i'll bbl
[07:03] <illmortal> hm... anyone know if there's a special way to install a log in theme other than system settings?... It still uses the default one =\
[07:09] <Jack3> flaccid, i got it working :)
[07:13] <abby87> hello my soundcard is not playing any sound..i'm using kubuntu-kde4..alsamixer is opening properly too still no sound
[07:13] <abby87> any idea?
[07:13] <flaccid> Jack3: was it just the root entry
[07:13] <flaccid> abby87: wrong channel for kde4, see topic
[07:14] <flaccid> !changethemes | illmortal
[07:14] <abby87> ooh ok thanx
[07:15] <illmortal> lol thanks flaccid :)
[07:15] <v6lur> what exactly does it mean & how can i "resolve manually":
[07:15] <v6lur> Examining /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d.
[07:15] <v6lur> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/header_postinst.d/dkms
[07:15] <v6lur> /etc/init.d/dkms_autoinstaller: line 82: /var/lib/dkms/nvidia/173.14.09/source/dkms.conf: No such file or directory
[07:15] <v6lur> nvidia: Multiple versions in DKMS. Unsure what to do. Resolve manually.
[07:16] <flaccid> !pastebin | v6lur
[07:17] <flaccid> v6lur: what are you trying to achieve?
[07:17] <v6lur> standard apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[07:18] <Jack3> flaccid, i actually followed this post, which first i redid device.map to follow the bios order, secdonly under chroot i  ran sudo grub --device-map=device.map and then ran find /boot/grub/stage1, it returend (hd0,0) this time i typed root (hd0,0) then setup (hd0) then i went into menu.list and made sure the ubuntu partitions were now pointing towards hd0,0
[07:19] <v6lur> that is, updating worked ok, but using latest kernel X doesn't start
[07:20] <v6lur> latest is 2.6.24-21, using 2.6.24-20 things work
[07:20] <flaccid> Jack3: fair enough
[07:20] <v6lur> obviously has something to do with nvidia driver, but what wxactly?
[07:20] <Jack3> flaccid, though now i gotta go figure how to fix the vista and xp installations :P
[07:21] <dwidmann> v6lur: that sounds like sufficient reason to file a bug report, and to keep and run the old kernel
[07:21] <dwidmann> wait, v6lur, you might just need to recompile the nvidia driver
[07:21] <dwidmann> v6lur: did you install it by hand?
[07:21] <flaccid> v6lur: did you google the errors?
[07:22] <v6lur> i havent compiled nvidia driver, just installed with envy
[07:22] <flaccid> !envy | v6lur
[07:22] <v6lur> flaccid: yes, gives two results, both in italian
[07:22] <v6lur> sorry, envy-ng it was. not envy
[07:22] <flaccid> a lot of people avoid envy for these kinds of reasons
[07:23] <dwidmann> v6lur: maybe alberto hasn't repackaged the drivers for the newer kernel yet or something
[07:23] <dwidmann> That was his name right, alberto milone, or something like that
[07:23] <v6lur> ok, i see
[07:24] <dwidmann> anywho, he packages updated versions of the nvidia driver and keeps them in a third party repository. Maybe it hasn't been updated yet.
[07:24] <v6lur> could/would installing latest driver from nvidia's site help?
[07:24] <flaccid> v6lur: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dkms/+bug/250757
[07:24] <dwidmann> v6lur: yes.
[07:25] <flaccid> and i'd say according to the bug report that sounds the likely reason
[07:25] <dwidmann> v6lur: you'll want to use envy to purge all versions that are presently installed first
[07:25] <illmortal> flaccid i get errors when I run sudo kcontrol: http://pastebin.ca/1185025
[07:26] <flaccid> illmortal: never use sudo for gui apps
[07:26] <illmortal> hm...
[07:27] <dwidmann> illmortal: use kdesudo instead
[07:27] <illmortal> k
[07:27] <v6lur> flaccid, dwidmann, thanks
[07:27] <flaccid> illmortal: that link doesn't load in two browsers of mine
[07:28] <illmortal> o.o; it's basically a permissions error right after i type my password but kdesudo did the trick so far :p
[07:29] <flaccid> yes, this is why kdesudo was made :)
[07:30] <illmortal> hm.. kcontrol lacks the option for login theme?
[07:32] <dwidmann> illmortal: advanced tab, sytem category, login manager
[07:32] <illmortal> In KDE Control Center?
[07:32] <dwidmann> wait, I was thinking system settings, oops
[07:33] <dwidmann> illmortal: type login in the filter
[07:33] <illmortal> lol yeah in system settings it doesn't apply the new theme (bug) it sticks to default
[07:33] <flaccid> illmortal: its the same as system settings 'Splash Screen' they use the same kmod snapins
[07:33] <flaccid> illmortal: you talking about the kde login splash dialog or the boot usplash one?
[07:34] <illmortal> login... there's the login screen, when you click log in, then you get a boot splash, right? o,o;
[07:34] <dwidmann> illmortal: oh, kcontrol and system settings use the same kcmshell modules
[07:36] <illmortal> eh... the login screen is the default screen while the splash theme is different.
[07:36] <illmortal> i have a full theme that should implement onto the login screen then the splash screen afterwards
[07:41] <illmortal> ah found it, KDM theme manager. Gonna log out now and test it o.o;
[07:43] <illmortal> bah! It's official... Kubuntu has a bug that doesn't allow to change login screen.
[07:45] <dwidmann> longstanding bug if I do remember correctly
[07:45] <p_quarles> dwidmann, you do remember correctly :)
[07:45] <word> i have an alc885 card...and it's using the alc882 driver..how do i fix that?
[07:45] <illmortal> lol why didn't ya just tell meh! lol
[07:46] <dwidmann> word: is it broken?
[07:46] <word> dwidmann: the microphone is
[07:46] <illmortal> alright hittin the sack :P
[07:46] <word> i can hear it through the speakers, but no apps can find the input for it
[07:46] <illmortal> flaccid & dwidmann, thanks for your assistance.
[07:46] <flaccid> illmortal: oh kdm them sorry mate. just to let you know it doesn't work properly
[07:47] <flaccid> heh its been like this since kubuntu was out
[07:47] <dwidmann> maybe illmortal would have better luck installing kdm-kde4 and themeing it instead
[07:47] <flaccid> oh im just repeating dwidmann. meh im so not with it
[07:48] <word> dwidmann: the playback works fine, but none of the inputs in the programs are getting sound,
[07:48] <p_quarles> flaccid, I remember it working with 7.04 -- broke after that
[07:48] <word> dwidmann: on both skype and audacity i tried 0,0 0,1 and 0,2
[07:48] <p_quarles> kdm theming, that is -- and it's the same in Debian, so the issue is upstream
[07:49] <dwidmann> hmmm, I'm no sound expert word, lets see what I can google :)
[07:49] <kathy> Hello
[07:49] <kathy> Anyone know how to make desktop sharing in kde 4.1 functional.  pretty complex from what I see
[07:50] <dwidmann> word: what about this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-449731.html
[07:50] <word> dwidmann: thanks, i've been trying for a  couple hours and haven't found anything :(
[07:50] <word> dwidmann: hold on, checking
[07:52] <holyguyver> How do I install a js extension to Konqueror?
[07:53] <word> dwidmann: actually, it's a Realtek ALC889A, being recognized by alsa as 885, and by phonon as 882 >< lol
[07:53] <dwidmann> word: well, maybe that post will solve it for you, it looks like cato2 had all his ducks in a row by the end of the thread
[07:56] <word> dwidmann: awesome! still doesn't show up as the right one, but mic works, and that's plenty thanks a lot!
[07:57] <flaccid> p_quarles: its never worked on each release since dapper for me
[07:57] <dwidmann> word: awesome, glad to hear that it works. Don't worry about if it shows up as the right one ... any more attempt to fix it might break it
[07:58] <flaccid> p_quarles: debian and ubuntu implement the login manager quite differently to normal distros, could have something to do with it
[07:59] <p_quarles> that wouldn't surprise me; haven't tried anything non-debian based recently
[07:59] <flaccid> word: phonon sounds like kde4, you might have better luckin #kubuntu-kde4
[08:02]  * djdarkman doesn't understand why does addept's systray goes into a seperate window when turning on compiz.... and why hasn't this 1 year old bug been fixed....
[08:09] <cyberponix> I need help with some dvd encription
[08:09] <mase_work> cyberponix: ok
[08:09] <mase_work> cyberponix: what do you need help with
[08:09] <mase_work> specifically
[08:09] <cyberponix> rather i can not get the movie war to rip
[08:10] <cyberponix> No issues ripping other dvds
[08:10] <mase_work> cyberponix: is there some sort of copy protection on that DVD do you know ?
[08:11] <cyberponix> I am sure there is however I am unsure what kind...
[08:11] <cyberponix> I have never had this many issues ripping a dvd
[08:13] <mase_work> cyberponix: what method are you using to rip the dvd ?
[08:13] <cyberponix> I have tried dvdrip, acidrip, and k9copy none can do it....
[08:14] <favro> !dvd
[08:14] <flaccid> djdarkman: ask compiz/gtk
[08:15] <cyberponix> and yes I have the current libdvdcss2
[08:15] <cyberponix> lol
[08:15] <Tamagotono> Anyone know of any showstoppers in intrepid Alpha4?
[08:15] <flaccid> cyberponix: try libdvdnav4 and libdvdread3 <-- that one mostly
[08:15] <flaccid> !intrepid | Tamagotono
[08:16] <djdarkman> flaccid: everytime I ask about issues like this, developers always defend themeselves instead of just saying: "sorry we don't have the time" or "sorry this isn't important to us"
[08:16] <mase_work> cyberponix: you may not be able to do it then
[08:16] <flaccid> djdarkman: agreed
[08:17] <flaccid> its pretty much like the systray problem in kde4 with gtk etc. usability gets overlooked a lot
[08:18] <cyberponix> flaccid: i ahve those, and still can not back up dvd
[08:19] <flaccid> cyberponix: if its encrypted, perhaps it cannot decrypt the type of encryption you have
[08:20] <cyberponix> it was released in 07 it seems to me that should have been broken by now, maybe not... dunno thanks anyway
[08:21] <flaccid> shouldn't rely on the open source community for doing that illegal stuff :)
[08:22] <cyberponix> its not illegal to back things u own.. however if i uploaded it to oh lets say mininova for others to download then it becomes illegal
[08:23] <cyberponix> I just like having my movies on a thumb drive so i can easly take them places you know?
[08:23] <flaccid> cyberponix: thats not entirely true but yeah pretty ot for here
[08:24] <flaccid> i agree of course you should be able to backup
[08:25] <djdarkman> DMCA and DRM are the lamest things in the world, after Microsoft....
[08:25] <cyberponix> that is the only dvd I can not back up its strange to me
[08:31] <sgrover> cyberponix: where there's a will there's a way.  Pipe the video out from a DVD player to a video capture device on your computer and record it there... :)
[08:31] <sgrover> I'll leave it up to you though to decide if you are "legally" able to do this....
[08:34] <KingOfDos> what the ** is happening with security.ubuntu.com? an apt-get upgrade gives me 30kB/s. normally when i'd do an apt-get upgrade it goes with about 1400kB/s
[08:36] <cyberponix> sgrover: got any good cap programs?
[08:37] <sgrover> sry, no.  Haven't needed em yet.
[08:37] <sgrover> But, even MythTV would work if you used the video capture device approach....
[08:37] <sgrover> though that's a bit overkill
[08:38] <sgrover> (er.  to be clear.. I *think* that would work as expected... haven't tried it myself sooooo....)
[08:43] <flaccid> KingOfDos: probably just load
[08:45] <KingOfDos> flaccid: i'd think so. but when there is so mutch load, just add another server. at least that's what i would do.
[08:46] <flaccid> KingOfDos: there are mirrors and feel free to donate to the project
[08:47] <flaccid> just isn't mirrors for the security repos because its not as HA as main
[09:01] <kastner> hallo
[09:03] <kastner> kennt sich hier jemand mit krfb aus
[09:03] <p_quarles> !de
[09:04] <kastner> thaks a lot, i thought i was conneted to it. my mistake    sorry
[09:10] <Guest83242> join mythtv-user
[09:10] <Guest83242> ups :_
[09:12] <ext3_fs> 2345
[09:17] <flaccid> j kde
[09:17] <flaccid> oops
[09:22] <tony_> is there any way to totally remove an app? do i just use purge?
[09:25] <flaccid> purge if installed from pkg
[09:28] <Guest83242> a question - do you know a repository with kde 4.1?
[09:28] <Guest83242> i use ubuntu ones, and still no upgrade
[09:29] <word> Guest83242: go to kubuntu.org and click on the news item, it has the instructions you need
[09:29] <flaccid> !kde4 | Guest83242
[09:29] <flaccid> thats the link..
[10:00] <compilerwriter> Ladies and Gents Is there a way for my windows to "remember" the coordinates from which I last had them on the screen and then appear at those same coordinates when I fire up the same program again?
[10:02] <flaccid> compilerwriter: right click the title bar of the window and goto advanced | special application settings and select remembe for the first two types
[10:04] <compilerwriter> flaccid all I have in advanced is Keep above/below others and fullscreen
[10:05] <flaccid> compilerwriter: hmm thats weird. you are on kde3 using kwin ? ie. no effects or different window manager?
[10:06] <compilerwriter> flaccid I have the cube
[10:07] <compilerwriter> flaccid how would I determine my wm
[10:07] <compilerwriter> flaccid beryl comes to mind
[10:07] <flaccid> compilerwriter: correct. you are not using kwin, so you should ask #compiz-fusion if its possible
[10:07] <flaccid> or whatever window manager you are using because it aint kwin
[10:10] <ActionParsnip> yo yo yo
[10:20] <kritykal> hyeee
[10:20] <kritykal> all
[10:20] <kritykal> how are you
[10:21] <kritykal> i hope all of you are good
[10:21] <kritykal> condition
[10:21] <kritykal> or
[10:21] <kritykal> conditioner
[10:21] <kritykal> sounds like shampoo you all
[10:21] <kritykal> hahaha
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> kritykal: ease up on the enter key dude, its not punctuation
[10:22] <flaccid> kritykal: please leave unless you are here about kubuntu support
[10:24] <tony_> anyone know how to make amarok use minimode by default?
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> tony_: I use amarok. How do you enable this mode?
[10:27] <kritykal> go to the option
[10:27] <kritykal> its easy pal
[10:27] <tony_> ActionParsnip: there's two up/down arrows on the right side of the small player. click it
[10:28] <flaccid> kritykal: please stop.
[10:28] <kritykal> hey
[10:29] <kritykal> is it im wrong?
[10:29] <ActionParsnip> tony_: so its the startup view option?
[10:29] <srbaldomero> Hello,can anyone help me to configure my system as to have a 1440x900px resolution? I have a SIS Mirage3 graphic card as
[10:29] <tony_> kritykal: i think he's telling you you're being too general
[10:29] <tony_> ActionParsnip: go to settings....show player window
[10:30] <kritykal> option is equal to setting and also equal to preferences
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> tony_: ahh so you just want the basic playing interface
[10:30] <tony_> ActionParsnip: yes
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> tony_: mine looks a bit like this http://www.mepisguides.com/Mepis-6/media-players/amarok/amarok-4.png
[10:31] <tony_> i don't really need that big amarok window every time i start it
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> tony_: but not gnomified
[10:32] <kritykal> okay pal
[10:32] <kritykal> take care
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> tony_ im websearching
[10:33] <kritykal> sorry that if im wrong
[10:33] <kritykal> take care actionparsnip
[10:33] <kritykal> love you
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> kritykal: np man
[10:33] <flaccid> !enter | kritykal
[10:33] <flaccid> me
[10:33] <flaccid> meh even
[10:33] <flaccid> tony_: you might get an answer in #amarok
[10:34] <tony_> flaccid: already asked. too slow in there
[10:34] <flaccid> it might get better later
[10:34] <tony_> oh well, no big deal
[10:35] <ActionParsnip> tony_: id try a different player if amarok doesnt suit you
[10:35] <flaccid> tony_: sorry how do you get to mini mode again?
[10:36] <tony_> flaccid: settings....show player window......then bottom right arrow things
[10:37] <tony_> ActionParsnip: i like amarok. i use audacious once in a while also
[10:37] <tony_> i just haven't used linux long enough to really have a favorite
[10:38] <ActionParsnip> tony_: id explore, do you use the library function in amarok?
[10:38] <flaccid> tony_: raise a bug on bugs.kde.org as a feature request, i don't see it being possible and amarok2 will superseed this anyway
[10:38] <tony_> ActionParsnip: no, not yet. have in a previous install
[10:42] <tony_> no big deal. maybe it has it in amarok 2
[10:43] <flaccid> maybe, maybe not, you won't know until you find out :)
[10:45] <tony_> usually the bugs i file are already on record
[10:46] <tony_> something has to be done with the nvidia drivers or xorg or soemthing. i'm using 20% to 50% cpu on my 8800gt and q6600
[10:46] <tony_> where do i go for that? #xorg is empty
[10:47] <flaccid> tony_which process?
[10:48] <favro> tony_: in konsole type   top  then the > key and look for two xorgs listed
[10:51] <tony_> favro: xorg and kwin = 30% to 50% cpu
[10:52] <favro> tony_: yeh - I went back to the nv driver 'cause of that
[10:53] <flaccid> i guess you could complain to nvidia or try their beta drivers
[10:53] <tony_> favro: are you on kde4 also? i'm on 4.1
[10:53] <flaccid> or just upgrade to latest stable nvidia driver
[10:53] <favro> tony_: no
[10:53] <flaccid> tony_: this channel is not kde4 support, see topic please
[10:53] <tony_> flaccid: i'd rather use what's in the repos. any time i used different and used the repos, i'd have a mess and sometimes no x
[10:54] <favro> tony_: it seems to be the new x at fault
[10:54] <tony_> flaccid: but kubuntu uses kde 4
[10:54] <flaccid> tony_: read the topic.
[10:54] <flaccid> also you can't point blame until you diagnose it
[10:55] <tony_> i thought kubuntu had already moved onto kde4 hence it coming with kde4
[10:58] <tony_> is there something i add to make kubuntu update to beta drivers?
[10:58] <tony_> nvidia ones?
[10:59] <favro> !nvidia
[10:59] <flaccid> tony_: nah that won't happen until intrepid. beta drivers and the latest drivers are from the nvidia website. they are not updated in release
[11:06] <alec> hello
[11:10] <alec> is it normal that empty files aren't saved as actual files on a fat-formatted usb-stick? they seem to be in the file table but on a windows machine I can't access them.
[11:11] <flaccid> alec: doesn't seem right. what is the error in windows?
[11:12] <alec> it says that the file doesn't exist.
[11:12] <flaccid> if it exists in linux, i guess you better give bill a call :O
[11:13] <alec> could it be that linux just doesn't save a real file behind the entry in the file table? i think that's what confuses windows.
[11:14] <flaccid> i doubt it. a file is a file as far as linux is concerned
[11:15] <alec> ok...i was just wondering because it only happens on empty files. once they have more than 0 bytes, windows can open them aswell.
[11:16] <flaccid> well windows is usually fine with 0 byte files. maybe google can shed some light
[11:21] <alec> i'll give it a try, thanks so far.. difference is, when i save an empty text file myself, i can open it on both os...well, I'll google.
[11:21] <flaccid> alec: how else would you save it?
[11:22] <alec> those empty files are header files from /usr/src/ ....
[11:23] <alec> i haven't created them myself but simply copied them to the usb-stick (using dolphin, but that shouldn't be the problem)
[11:25] <flaccid> hmmm fux me
[11:25] <flaccid> oops!
[11:26] <alec> flaccid, what's up?
[11:26] <flaccid> nothing
[11:27] <alec> hmm..k then..
[11:32] <thefish> alec: is the file still there when you put the usb stick back in the linux machine?
[11:32] <Jahman> hi
[11:32] <thefish> the 0 size file i mean
[11:32] <thefish> hi Jahman
[11:32] <alec> thefish, yes, it's still there.
[11:33] <Jahman> hugh thefish
[11:35] <thefish> alec: can you copy the file to the windows machine via network?
[11:36] <thefish> alec: i have just tried with a usb stick here on dolphin 1.1 and it works fine - are you unmounting (ejecting) the usb stick properly?
[11:38] <alec> uhm...nope, i didn't umount the stick... I had waited a long time (30 mins) before i just took it out. but i'll try it with unmounting..actually a smart idea :)
[11:39] <alec> can't try copying via network because both machines are supposed to be disconnected here..security issues, not my own systems.
[11:41] <mw07_> Hallo
[11:41] <mw08> hallo
[11:41] <mw07_> http://downloads.sourceforge.net/inkscape/Inkscape-0.46.win32.exe
[11:42] <flaccid> mw07_: how can we help you?
[11:43] <flaccid> !ops
[11:43] <flaccid> mw07_: is trying to send me a file which could be a virus
[11:44] <dwidmann> hmm, and mw08 has left the server
[11:44] <dwidmann> wonder just how many mwxx's there are
[11:44] <flaccid> would be good if ops were actually around doing their job
[11:45] <dwidmann> Probably a bad time of day
[11:45] <bazhang> it is very early for most of them I would imagine.
[11:46] <flaccid> depends where you live. this channel is international.
[11:46] <bazhang> true
[11:46] <Riddell> flaccid: do you want ops?
[11:46] <flaccid> its only 8:45pm here
[11:46] <dwidmann> IMO the most uninteresting hours, thus, when I sleep, ranges from about 6am to 12noon. 6:45am here in EST
[11:46] <flaccid> Riddell: is that a trick question?
[11:46] <Riddell> no
[11:47] <flaccid> well sure, but at this stage i would prefer a development server for kubuntu.org but heh im up for either :)
[11:47] <Riddell> flaccid: can't you set up drupal on your local computer?
[11:48] <flaccid> Riddell: yeah i've got that going but really would like the actual config and content outputted so i can do the css properly
[11:48] <flaccid> did you get my URI for my drupal install ?
[11:49] <Riddell> flaccid: no don't think so
[11:49] <Riddell> flaccid: I've given you ops on this channel
[11:49] <backflip> hey everybody. newbie need some KDE3 help. my desktop wallpapper isn't changing. i choose file, confirim, but nothing happen. what i should try?
[11:49] <flaccid> give the URL from the notice i just sent a shot
[11:50] <Riddell> flaccid: I don't see a msg
[11:50] <Riddell> flaccid: ok, that seems to work
[11:51] <alec> thefish, i can reproduce it this way: I copy "con.h" from "/usr/src/linux-headers-'uname -a'/include/config/w1 to the stick, unmount it and put the stick into the win-machine. there i can see the file but can't open nor copy it.
[11:51] <flaccid> Riddell: thanks on both accounts jr :)
[11:53] <bazhang> ruh roh
[11:55] <thefish> alec: maybe try with just cp on the console instead of dolphin?
[11:56] <alec> just doing that right now :)
[11:57] <alec> same problem occours. and i cared about unmounting aswell.
[12:01] <thefish> alec: not sure then mate :/ - what use do you have for the empty files?
[12:03] <alec> thefish, i want to port some code to a different system (not windows, it's just the IDE I'm using there). the source code I want to port definately uses linux libraries, so i need to copy all that stuff first before i start compiling anything there. thanks a lot that you cared though!
[12:04] <_magez_> Magez
[12:04] <thefish> alec: no worries :) please tell me if you find out what causes this, i get the same here
[12:05] <alec> sure, I'll do my best.
[12:05] <thefish> alec: you could just recreate the files in windows as a workaround?
[12:05] <alec> mw07 is trying to send me a suspicious file.
[12:08] <alec> thefish, sure, that would be a workaround. but I'd need to be able to delete the files frst in order to replace them with 'valid' files. and i can't access them because windows considers them faulty. and there are a lot these files spread all over the filetree..
[12:09] <The_ManU_212> hi
[12:09] <thefish> alex "echo '' > file"?
[12:09] <thefish> on the windows side i mean
[12:10] <The_ManU_212> yesterday i wanted hardy heron to install on my machine, the installation was fine, but when i enabled the ati driver (kicker gui) then x didnt start anymore and my pc hangs when i do shutdown
[12:10] <thefish> it wouldnt take too much to write a small script that found those and echo'd nothing into them
[12:10] <The_ManU_212> my graphics card is a saphire 128mb x700pro
[12:10] <The_ManU_212> and i also had the shutdown problem with dapperdrake, but not everytime
[12:13] <alec> thefish, yeah, i could try to recursively find empty files and write a space char into them, thanks. just very new to linux and i don't know a lot of the bash commands for shellscripting. but I'll try this, thanks a lot for your support.
[12:14] <thefish> alec: if you want to do this in linux, find can do part of it for you (man find), i meant to do this on the windows side
[12:14] <BUGabundo> hello
[12:14] <BUGabundo> what tool replaces Kcontrol on kde4 on intrepid?
[12:15] <flaccid> BUGabundo: system settings and #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support; #ubuntu+1 for intrepid
[12:16] <BUGabundo> I'll check there
[12:16] <BUGabundo> thanks flaccid
[12:16] <alec> thefish, but on the windows side I'd need the ability to access these files. windows just doesn't let me touch them. can't open, can't delete and thus i think I won't be able to write anything into them.
[12:16] <emilsedgh> BUGabundo: System Settings is the original control panel in KDE4
[12:18] <alec> but it's still worth a try..let me try this..
[12:23] <thefish> alec: find /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/include/config/w1 -type f -empty will return all empty files in that directory
[12:24] <thefish> alec: you can then use find /usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/include/config/w1 -type f -empty -exec echo " " > {} \; to echo a space into them - I would copy the whole tree to /tmp first and do the modifications on the copy ;)
[12:25] <thefish> of course you may want to check that it can open the files with spaces in them!
[12:26] <alec> thefish, super strange behaviour on windows. if I "echo boo > test.txt", it'll work out and create or overwrite that file. if I "echo boo > con.h" (con.h is the faulty file), then dos will just print "boo" out to the console like I wouldn't type it into the file.
[12:26] <thefish> wow strange
[12:27] <alec> thefish, oh, thanks a lot for the help with find. yeah, I'll check if windows can read that file at all if it's filled.
[12:30] <alec> wow, did you use some regex there or how does  "{} \" describe the found file?
[12:36] <alec> ok, that's more than strange. if i open con.h with kate and save a byte into it, then i can see in windows that the file is containing a byte. but still i can't open it.
[12:36] <alec> thefish, hah, got it!
[12:36] <alec> it's the _filename_ that has different chars.
[12:37] <alec> "con.h" isn't just <letters><dot><letter> .
[12:37] <alec> if found it out by using the tab to complete the filename.
[12:42] <uffo> hello, does someone has kubuntu livecd with kde4.1
[12:43] <alec> thefish, i went like this: on windows, if you type "del con" and press on tab, then it will complete the file name to "con.h". Now, if you type "del con." and press tab, it won't be able to complete the filename. it's not a usual dot prior the file ending. if i do the same with a windows-created file like "test.txt", then i can write "del test.", press tab and it'll complete the rest of the file.
[12:44] <uffo> do someone has created kubuntu kde4.1 livecd, i have enough of that package updating because i updated to kde4.1 now plasma wont run
[12:45] <flaccid> uffo: kde4 support int he channel as per topic
[12:45] <flaccid> uffo: oops i mean #kubuntu-kde4 for help on kde4
[12:45] <uffo> but i need kubuntu kde4.1 livecd jus
[12:45] <uffo> t
[12:46] <uffo> i removed kubuntu from hdd already
[12:46] <CosmiC> just installed kde 4.1, keyboard shortcuts don't seem to work and changing monitor settings via gui doesn't work. Are these problems common in kde 4.x
[12:46] <CosmiC> ?
[12:46] <flaccid> uffo: no such thing
[12:46] <uffo> i had enough
[12:46] <flaccid> CosmiC: wrong chan see topic for right channel
[12:47] <Dr_willis> !kde4 > CosmiC
[12:48] <Dr_willis> kde4.1 is still very much a work in progress.
[12:48] <CosmiC> Dr_willis: thnx
[12:48] <uffo> has someone created kde4.1 custom cd, i know it is possible but maybe there is someone who has
[12:49] <Hobbsee> uffo: the peopel who may have tried are likely in #kubuntu-kde4
[12:50] <flaccid> uffo: not the right channel sorry
[12:50] <uffo> it is kubuntu channel
[12:50] <uffo> i do not need kde4 specific
[12:50] <flaccid> uffo: read the topic please
[12:51] <flaccid> ok
[12:51] <uffo> ok i ask from kde4 channel about kubuntu cd but if they send me back there then i come
[12:52] <Hobbsee> uffo: https://edge.launchpad.net/reconstructor may be helpful, but i don't know if it does kde 4.1 cds.  i doubt many people have tried it
[12:52] <Hobbsee> flaccid: try being constructive, perhaps?
[12:53] <flaccid>  Hobbsee: pardon ?
[12:53] <flaccid> im constructive all day here if you had not noticed
[12:54] <Hobbsee> flaccid: that is not constructive, sorry. That could be replaced by a cron job. (if kde4 is mentioned, tell user to read /topic, rinse and repeat if they talk again)
[12:55] <flaccid> Hobbsee: i guess that is your opinion. now that i am an operator i do not wish to quarrel with you.
[12:55] <Hobbsee> flaccid: if you want operatorship, you should behave in a constructive way.  we've been over this many times in -ops and elsewhere, i am sure.
[12:56] <Hobbsee> more to the point, if you want to *keep* operatorship for an extended period of time...
[12:56] <flaccid> Hobbsee: please explain operatorship. are you now targeting me?
[12:56] <flaccid> im happy to read any resources that are available if you can provide them
[12:56] <Hobbsee> google shows many things...
[12:57] <flaccid> thats not constructive
[12:57] <flaccid> Hobbsee: http://www.google.com/search?client=opera&rls=en&q=%23kubuntu+operatorship&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
[12:58] <Hobbsee> you're asking me to provide answers to every question, without knowing what the questions are.  what do you expect me to say?
[12:58] <flaccid> some meeting from 2005..
[12:58] <flaccid> i don't expect anything from you Hobbsee
[12:58] <Hobbsee> anyway, this is offtopic.  Just remember:  be constructive.
[12:58] <flaccid> you brought it up. im constructive all day thanks. talk again another time.
[13:21] <vazlok> anyone knows of a kde4 lookalike theme for kde3?
[13:22] <bazhang> what about kde-look.org vazlok
[13:22] <Hobbsee> vazlok: kde3 and kde4 both have qtcurve, if that helps
[13:22] <Hobbsee> otherwise, kdelook.
[13:25] <tony_> anyone know how i find my ip address?
[13:26] <Pici> tony_: ifconfig
[13:28] <tony_> Pici: thanks, but is there a way to make it a certain ip like in windows?
[13:29] <Pici> tony_: A static address?
[13:30] <tony_> Pici: yes. router wants my address as 192.168.1.102 because ports aare set to be open for that address
[13:31] <Pici> tony_: I'm not really sure how to do that in KDE, I'm more of a Gnome person myself. I'm sure that someone else here can help you with that though.
[13:32] <jussi01> tony_: right click the network manager icon in tray, then manual configuration, IIRC its there
[13:32] <uli_> hallo kann mir mal jemand in sachen irc helfen?
[13:32] <vazlok> Hobbsee, bazhang thanks....but I use kde4 with some kde3 apps(kdevelop)...I just wanted a consistent look...qtcurve might help, but I like oxygen too much to give it up just yet :)
[13:32] <Hobbsee> !de | uli_
[13:33] <tony_> jussi01: thanks, i can probably figure it out now
[13:33] <uli_> thats my problem!
[13:33] <uli_> how can i change rooms?
[13:33] <jussi01> tony_: great :)
[13:33] <jussi01> uli_: /join #room you want
[13:34] <uli_> thx jussi01
[13:34] <jussi01> uli_: no probs :)
[13:36] <uli_> are you german jussi01 ?
[13:36] <jussi01> uli_: no. also, this is offtopic for here, /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[13:41] <corigo> What is the difference between a Primary Partition and Extended Partition? More importantly if I'm formatting a data only drive for my home SAN which should I use.
[13:42] <thefish> corigo: wikipedia should be able to help you with understanding partition types, i reckon a primary should be fine as you are probably using only 1 - what are you using for the SAN?
[13:45] <corigo> 2x250GiB Raid 1. No OS only data.
[13:45] <flaccid> corigo: google explains all. there can only be 4 primary partitions, then extended on a disk. so use primary unless there are already 4 primary parts..
[13:46] <corigo> flaccid: thanks as always
[13:46] <flaccid> np
[13:48] <bopferman> is there a kde4 channel?
[13:48] <ghostcube> kubuntu-kde4
[13:48] <Hobbsee> bopferman: yes, #kubuntu-kde4
[13:49] <bopferman> ty
[13:51] <corigo> running live CD how can I mount my new partition?
[13:51] <flaccid> corigo: disks & filesystems in system settings
[13:53] <corigo> Yeah, you see this my problem, I'm used to Kubuntu, and loading Ubuntu, better switch forums
[14:14] <rav> hello. Will Kubuntu Intrepid come with KDE4 by default?
[14:17] <flaccid> !intrepid | rav
[14:17] <cryingtux> hello
[14:17] <cryingtux> flaccid:
[14:18] <rav> flaccid: thanks. Kubuntu Hardy is a LTS, correct?
[14:18] <flaccid> negative
[14:18] <cryingtux> can you help me with how to add another distro to kubuntu grub entry?
[14:19] <rav> so I'll have to go to KDE4 or stop updating?
[14:19] <flaccid> cryingtux: no sorry
[14:19] <cryingtux> its ok
[14:19] <flaccid> rav: its your choice, hardy users can install 4.1 if they want
[14:20] <flaccid> cryingtux: usually update-grub does that for you anyway
[14:20] <cryingtux> will it add the bootloader of the other distro installed on sda7?
[14:21] <rav> flaccid: but when 8.10 is released, I have to stay on 8.04 to keep KDE 3.5.x
[14:21] <flaccid> cryingtux: there can only be one initial bootloader, but if you want to pass it to the other one, do chainloader +1 in the grub entry
[14:21] <flaccid> rav: nah you can be on either for kde3
[14:22] <cryingtux> thanks
[14:22] <rav> flaccid: whew
[14:22] <flaccid> coolio
[14:25] <neWbieZ> hi guys, i have probs with my video card, it's an nvida and i correctly installed the driver by following the procedure but unfortunately there is a prob with the "vertical scroll" i mean: everytime i watch a video for example the graphical quality is good, unless theres not a scene in which the subject moves up and down, jumps or something, in that case i see 2 or 3 horizontal lines on the screen that divide the image in frames. i tried to
[14:25] <neWbieZ> describe the prob the best i could. can someone help? thanks
[14:27] <rav> neWbieZ: is it just when looking videos?
[14:27] <neWbieZ> mainly yes, i also tried to see if the prob was VLC, so i installed another video player but nothing, then i tried to watch a video in youtube, same thing, and also sometimes the "scrolling" of a webpage seems to present the same issue
[14:28] <flaccid> neWbieZ: do you know which video driver you are using?
[14:28] <neWbieZ> it's the right one for my videocard i downloaded it from the nvidia website
[14:29] <neWbieZ> if you want to know it give me one sec i'll tell you right away
[14:29] <flaccid> neWbieZ: can you pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[14:30] <rav> i've never had video issues with my nvidia card. I installed the driver using envy-ng
[14:30] <neWbieZ> the driver is this NVIDIA-Linux-x86-173.14.12-pkg1.run
[14:31] <neWbieZ> im doing the pastebin
[14:32] <P3X-018> Is it easier to control applications, how they behave and modify different settings in KDE than GNOME?
[14:33] <neWbieZ> its taking a bit of time because its a big file
[14:33] <flaccid> P3X-018: thats entirely the user's opinion
[14:33] <P3X-018> It feels like you don't have the same amount of flexibility in ubuntu as you would in kubuntu. Or is it just me?
[14:34] <rav> P3X-018: i chose KDE based on looks on my early days of using linux, and got used to its applications and features. But I know people who feel the same way about GNOME
[14:36] <Dr_willis> I find kde more flexiable then gnome. :) and with that im out of hter..
[14:36] <neWbieZ> whats going on with my hard disk? it says i cant open it, it says "only available with HAL" and also it renames all the hard disks deleting their names and making them appear as "Hard Disk (scd1-2 etc)" ????
[14:36] <neWbieZ> (still uploading the pastebin)
[14:41] <neWbieZ> this is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/40665/
[14:44] <neWbieZ> guys?
[14:46] <neWbieZ> ??
[14:46] <P3X-018> Is it a bad idea to install KDE upon the GNOME that is already there in ubuntu, or should delete ubuntu and start w kubuntu?
[14:47] <Dekans> you can install both
[14:47] <Dekans> but you will have a lot of applications
[14:47] <P3X-018> Dekans: heard it causes problems with 'overlaps'.
[14:48] <Dekans> overlaps ?
[14:48] <neWbieZ> alright...
[14:49] <P3X-018> Dekans: As you said I'll have alot of apps... Isn't it possible to "overwrite" it on ubuntu, and hence remove ubuntu that way?
[14:49] <Dekans> ah
[14:49] <Dekans> you can try with autoremove
[14:50] <Dekans> but removing gnome libraries is very efficient for removing all gnome apps :p
[14:50] <hateball> Removing Xorg is quite efficient too ^^
[14:50] <Dekans> hateball: not to install KDE
[14:51] <hateball> Remove Xorg, install kubuntu-desktop
[14:51] <hateball> :p
[14:51] <P3X-018> Dekans: Will that remove ubuntu?
[14:51] <P3X-018> And install what I want?
[14:51] <hateball> Tho why not just backup /home and do a fresh install?
[14:52] <hateball> In any case, I've had no problems having both KDE and Gnome...
[14:52] <neWbieZ> what's kubuntu desktop? is it better than xorg?
[14:52] <P3X-018> hateball: I'll need an empty cd to burn the OS on and install it that way right?
[14:52] <P3X-018> Dont think I have more of those :/
[14:52] <hateball> !info kubuntu-desktop | neWbieZ
[14:53] <flaccid> gnome and kde ie. ubuntu and kubuntu are very separate there is no need for re-installing. if you have problems take those errors up with the appropriate channel
[14:53] <neWbieZ> this is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/40665/
[14:53] <neWbieZ> as you asked
[14:54] <flaccid> neWbieZ: just remind me what you need. sorry its late here
[14:55] <neWbieZ> you asked me to pastebin you my xorg.log
[14:55] <neWbieZ> this is my /var/log/Xorg.0.log http://paste.ubuntu.com/40665/
[14:55] <neWbieZ>  <neWbieZ> hi guys, i have probs with my video card, it's an nvida and i correctly installed the driver by following the procedure but unfortunately there is a prob with the "vertical scroll" i mean: everytime i watch a video for example the graphical quality is good, unless theres not a scene in which the subject moves up and down, jumps or something, in that case i see 2 or 3 horizontal lines on the screen that divide the image in frames.
[14:55] <neWbieZ> i tried to
[14:55] <neWbieZ> [15:25] <neWbieZ> describe the prob the best i could. can someone help? thanks
[14:55] <neWbieZ> this is what i asked before
[14:57] <Dekans> P3X-018: that will remove Gnome and its apps
[14:57] <Dekans> the base system will persist
[14:57] <Dekans> and kde will be there
[14:58] <Dekans> so you'll have kubuntu
[14:58] <P3X-018> Dekans: So I can install KDE and then remove ubuntu?
[14:58] <ghostcube> u will install kde and remove gnome yes
[14:58] <Dekans> yes
[14:58] <hw__> Are ~/.xinit and ~/.xsession executed on startx invocation and/or at kdm login?
[14:59] <P3X-018> Ok so which package is it that I need to install from Synaptic?
[14:59] <P3X-018> There is KDE-, kubuntu and stuff..
[14:59] <favro> kubuntu-desktop
[14:59] <Hamra> hi, how do i change locales? in particular, the LANGUAGE= is what i want to change
[15:01] <flaccid> neWbieZ: ok give me 2mins
[15:01] <neWbieZ> yep
[15:02] <flaccid> neWbieZ: so your resolution is ok but just the performance with playing back videos is not ?
[15:03] <neWbieZ> exactly
[15:03] <neWbieZ> my resolution is great
[15:03] <flaccid> interesting, but this a 9600gt ?
[15:03] <neWbieZ> yes i think so
[15:06] <neWbieZ> flaccid i have to go... my daughter is waiting for me out of school, thank you for your time and help, i really have to go sorry
[15:06] <neWbieZ> i'll get back in this chan tomorrow or later on
[15:06] <neWbieZ> sorry again
[15:06] <estan> hello. i'm trying to remove linux-restricted-modules-generic from my system.. but it says that linux-generic is dependant upon it.. how come?
[15:07] <estan> i'd like to install the latest nvidia driver, so i'd like to remove the package one.
[15:07] <v_> hi all
[15:09] <angelika> hi, also my nvidia is brocken since last apt-get upgrade..
[15:10] <estan> it would be okay if it only removed linux-generic, but it wants to remove kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-kde4-desktop along with it, which is obviously don't want.
[15:11] <estan> anyone know why it suggests to delete kubuntu-kde4-desktop et.c. when i try to remove linux-restriced-modules-generic?
[15:12] <frank23> estan: you don't need to remove that if you want to remove the nvidia driver AFAIK
[15:13] <flaccid> estan: you don't need to remove anything if you wan to use the latest driver from nvidia
[15:26] <miffed> how do I stop windows becoming transparent ?
[15:30] <valcrow> hi..how do i use abbreviations in kdevelop 3..for eg classd or ifb?
[15:30] <valcrow> the docs dont seem to have info on this
[15:31] <miffed> I got all desktop effects turned off, unistalled all the compiz stuff and yet my windows are transparent and pop up menus fade in and out, how do I turn off the transparency affect?
[15:36] <frank23> doesn't kwin do the desktop effects in kubuntu hardy?
[15:37] <frank23> (I'm not using hardy)
[15:38] <miffed> frank23: I have no idea what manages the effect I   have turned off every option I can find so far yet it persists
[15:38] <fale> frank23: I think it will
[15:40] <testi> miffed: maybe you need to log in again
[15:40] <testi> to turn it off
[15:41] <miffed> I rebooted several times
[15:41] <mr_clark> Hi guys. Running Kubuntu with KDE4. Everytime I start up my laptop I do an update to python-qt4, and python-qt4-common. This has been happening for about a week now. Any idea why these packages aren't updatng properly?
[15:43] <flaccid> mr_clark: #kubuntu-kde4 for kde4 support
[15:43] <mr_clark> okay.
[15:43] <mr_clark> thanks.
[15:43] <flaccid> np
[15:44] <miffed> Where would one enable transparency ....... desktop effects?
[15:44] <pim> I'd say compiz-fusion
[15:46] <miffed> pim: I removed everything compiz couple of days ago
[15:46] <bazhang> miffed, what about alt f2 kwin --replace
[15:46] <ghostcube> miffed: i dont know but kde 3 isnt using real transparency
[15:48] <miffed> bazhang: still acting the same
[15:52] <ghostcube> miffed: whats the prob again ?
[15:53] <ghostcube> ok red it are u using kde3 ?
[15:53] <miffed> ghostcube:  I got all desktop effects turned off, unistalled all the compiz stuff and yet my windows are transparent and pop up menus fade in and out, how do I turn off the transparency affect?
[15:54] <ghostcube> miffed: is this kde3 ?
[15:55] <miffed> ghostcube:  yup
[15:55] <ghostcube> ps ax | grep compiz
[15:55] <miffed> returns nothing
[15:56] <ghostcube> dpkg -l | grep compiz to nopaste.info
[15:56] <ghostcube> miffed: have u checked the desktop effectts in kcontrol ?
[15:56] <ghostcube> in appearance ?
[16:00] <elwood_> help I can't get my cd or dvd drives to be recognized
[16:04] <dima> Привет всем
[16:05] <trappist> !ru
[16:05] <ghostcube> bbl
[16:07] <trappist> I'm getting kind of annoyed by the every-couple-of-days kernel upgrades
[16:08] <dima> bzzz
[16:08] <elwood_> can anybody help me with my cd drive problem?
[16:08] <trappist> !ru > dima
[16:20] <BluesKaj> howdy
[16:22] <pim> ydwoh
[16:29] <BluesKaj> yeh pim
[16:31] <sbucat> anyone can get this working with opera or konqueror (i dislike firefox...) http://www.englishlistening.com/startListeningNow.do
[16:35] <sbucat> -.-''
[16:36] <geek_> sbucat: what's that?
[16:37] <geek_> site itself seems to wotk, no speakers on this box tho ;p
[16:44] <sbucat> geek_: no... it said buffering but doesn't buffering
[16:45] <comite> hola un service
[16:46] <comite> alguien sabe configurar para compartir una Impresora S.O. xp a Linux
[16:47] <Pici> !es | comite
[17:32] <nemo_> sorry jemanden kann mir helfen???
[17:33] <nemo_> würde gerne wissen wie kann ich java auf kubuntu installieren???
[17:34] <nemo_> hallo?? jemand da????
[17:35] <bazhang> !de
[18:12] <ForgeAus> uh... whats up with LSB :(... not good
[18:15] <sebastian_> hi, i have a coupple of questions because im new to kubuntu, when i use apt-get install.. can i write in 2 names in one command so it installs both automaticlly? and when i use sudo can i have something like su thats keeps me logged in as root all the time?
[18:16] <gissi> sebastian_: Yes, you can "apt-get install package1 package2 package3"
[18:16] <sebastian_> ok thx :)
[18:16] <sebastian_> how about sudo?
[18:16] <gissi> sebastian_: For the sudo, there is the non-recommended method of "sudo su -" which will ask for your password and give you a root shell
[18:17] <favro> you can install as mant apps as you like - a space to seperate - sudo lasts for 5 min
[18:17] <sebastian_> ok :)
[18:17] <favro> *many
[18:22] <birnisson> hi, where do I get for example libqtcore4 (>= 4.4.1) ?
[18:23] <dany_21a> hey room... does anyone know the problem (and maybe solution) that Alt+F2 (krunner?) wont get the focus if i start it and compiz is running? (window appears, but is behind all other windows)
[18:26] <favro> dany_21a: afaik using compiz supersedes kwin so kde apps are not focused - try in #compiz-fusion
[19:07] <typedestereo> I've a certain driver for my usb card...where would it be saved?
[19:07] <typedestereo> *usb wireless card
[19:10] <favro> !wireless
[19:22] <testair> l
[19:47] <voc> Hi please i need help! this never happen to me before! today when i try to hear music in amarok, the music sound very weird!! not how it should sound!! why happen this? help! thenks!
[19:50] <sourcemaker> I am using konqueror as web browser every day... but the browser crashs very often... when a web page contains flash... any help?
[19:51] <pim_> sourcemaker I think firefox is a better choise
[19:51] <pim_> sudo apt-get install firefox
[19:52] <voc> hi please i need help! this never happen to me before! today when i try to hear music in amarok, the music sound very weird!! not how it should sound!! why happen this? help! thenks!
[19:53] <Havoc][> voc: did you check your mp3?
[19:53] <p_quarles> voc, perhaps you were listening to weird sounding music? (the point: your description isn't very good)
[19:53] <deathoncity> hi all
[19:54] <deathoncity> i have a compaq presario r4000 notebook and kubuntu linux
[19:54] <deathoncity> i cannot install my wireless driver
[19:54] <deathoncity> can anyone help me?
[19:54] <p_quarles> deathoncity, what wireless card?
[19:55] <deathoncity> i also cannot mount my ntfs drives
[19:55] <deathoncity> pci
[19:55] <voc> it sounds weird like very deep!!!
[19:55] <p_quarles> pci is a protocol, not a chipset
[19:56] <Accidus> How can I launch the default application associated with a file, when working from the shell's command line?
[19:56] <deathoncity> broadcom ati bla bla bla
[19:59] <deathoncity> http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/softwareList?os=228&lc=en&cc=us&product=453183&dlc=en
[20:00] <deathoncity> there you'll find all drivers for xp sp2 for my laptop
[20:00] <deathoncity> i cannot handle-it
[20:00] <deathoncity> i'm new using linux
[20:00] <deathoncity> help me please
[20:01] <gissi> deathoncity: Which Ubuntu are you running? (Hardy, Edgy, etc)
[20:01] <voc> the music sounds strange, weird...; i don't know how explain it!!! it sounds deep, with a different entonation or somethin'
[20:01] <deathoncity> kubuntu
[20:01] <deathoncity> i don't know
[20:02] <chla> hello
[20:02] <deathoncity> where did i find out?
[20:02] <deathoncity> i have the inf files
[20:03] <Mojo_risin> fglrx stopped working for me with composite enabled, can someone help?
[20:05] <gissi> deathoncity: open a terminal (Alt+F2), type  'konsole' (without quotes) and hit Enter
[20:05] <deathoncity> done
[20:06] <parkin> how do i disablle the windowpopup everytime someone goes away/online in kopete? Ive tried to find the option but havent found it.
[20:06] <gissi> deathoncity: run 'uname -a'
[20:06] <gissi> deathoncity: tell me what it returns to you
[20:07] <deathoncity> Linux deathoncity-laptop 2.6.20-17-generic #2 SMP Thu Jul 10 00:05:43 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:07] <gissi> deathoncity: ok, one minute
[20:09] <gissi> deathoncity: Ok, you are running Kubuntu Feisty, keep this information if you need help on the future. On this terminal you have open, run: "lspci | grep -i network" (without quotes)
[20:11] <deathoncity> 03:02.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[20:12] <gissi> deathoncity: Ok, it is a Broadcom BCM4318, let me take a look. Broadcoms are not very friendly to install, I have one myself... Let me take a look
[20:12] <deathoncity> 10x a lot
[20:15] <gissi> deathoncity: check if you have ndiswrapper installed, on that terminal, just run 'ndiswrapper'
[20:15] <deathoncity> nope
[20:16] <gissi> deathoncity: ok, install it by running "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper"
[20:17] <deathoncity> E: Couldn't find package ndiswrapper
[20:19] <gissi> deathoncity: ops, sorry about that, wrong package name
[20:19] <deathoncity> no problem...10x anyway
[20:19] <deathoncity> hope solve this
[20:20] <gissi> deathoncity: I'm unsure of the package name on feisty, run "apt-cache search ndiswrapper-util"
[20:21] <deathoncity> ndiswrapper-utils-1.9 - Userspace utilities for the ndiswrapper linux kernel module
[20:22] <deathoncity> i typed sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-common
[20:22] <deathoncity> and it worked
[20:22] <gissi> deathoncity: Very good, now run "sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils-1.9", it will get some utilities we will need
[20:23] <deathoncity> ok..wait a sec
[20:23] <voc> the music sounds slow that's it!!! pleae help!
[20:23] <deathoncity> done
[20:24] <gissi> deathoncity: nice... Now we will need to find the driver, one minute
[20:25] <deathoncity> ok
[20:32] <deathoncity> gissi:i have entire folder with my w card driver for windows
[20:33] <deathoncity> i have put it in my user desktop
[20:35] <gissi> deathoncity: Ok, I just found one for your card. Let me send the file to you
[20:35] <deathoncity> ok
[20:36] <deathoncity> and how did i save this?
[20:37] <gissi> just save on your home folder
[20:38] <gissi> deathoncity: Well, check on your folder with Windows driver if you have a file named bcmwl5.inf and  bcmwl5.sys
[20:38] <deathoncity> yes
[20:38] <deathoncity> i have those files
[20:39] <gissi> deathoncity: Much easier then ;) Ok, run sudo ndiswrapper -mi 'path to the bcmwl5.inf'
[20:40] <DarkriftX> someone told me there is a command that will backup a list of all my installed apps so that i can restore it on another installation
[20:40] <gissi> deathoncity: of course, put the path to the file after -mi
[20:40] <DarkriftX> anyone know this command?
[20:41] <deathoncity> and now..i have a list
[20:42] <deathoncity> -i for install inffile
[20:42] <deathoncity> -a devil driver
[20:42] <deathoncity> -r driver
[20:42] <deathoncity> -l -m -ma
[20:42] <deathoncity> -mi and -v
[20:43] <deathoncity> what do i choose?
[20:43] <gissi> deathoncity: -i path_to_file
[20:46] <cryingtux> hi
[20:46] <deathoncity> this is my path
[20:47] <deathoncity> "/home/deathoncity/Desktop/wlan"
[20:47] <deathoncity> "/bcmwl5.inf"
[20:48] <gissi> deathoncity: Go to the directory /home/deathoncity/Desktop/wlan and run "ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf"
[20:49] <cryingtux> i have messed around with my GRUB, now i cant boot my system, all i get at boot is >grub
[20:49] <cryingtux> i reinstalled grub via live cd but same issue
[20:50] <cryingtux> how can i recover my boot loader?
[20:53] <cryingtux> any suggestions please?
[20:53] <pim_> can I make kubi show what it's doing during the bootprocess rather than that moving bar?
[20:53] <pim_> cryingtux
[20:53] <pim_> I have a tutorial
[20:54] <cryingtux> thanks, i am ready to go through it
[20:54] <gkffjcs> Hey guys, is there a kde equivalent of gnome templates, where you simply put a file in the ~/Templates folder, and can make a copy of it by right clicking and selecting new?
[20:55] <pim_> cryingtux: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[20:55] <cryingtux> thanks
[20:55] <gissi> deathoncity: Did it work? If it did, "ndiswrapper -l" should have it listed
[20:56] <deathoncity> i don't know how i can go to this folder path in terminal
[20:56] <deathoncity> i am new using linux
[20:57] <sourcemaker> can I supsend my desktop system?
[20:57] <pim_> you can
[20:57] <sourcemaker> pim_: how can I do that?
[20:58] <pim_> I only know for gnome
[20:58] <gissi> deathoncity: sorry about that. run "cd /home/deathoncity/Desktop/wlan"
[20:58] <pim_> but I suppose it's possible for kde too
[20:58] <cryingtux> pim_, hope it works, i gotta go and boot my system and try it
[20:59] <deathoncity> it worked
[20:59] <deathoncity> 10x
[21:00] <deathoncity> forcing parameter IBSSGMode from 0 to 2
[21:00] <deathoncity> several times
[21:00] <gissi> deathoncity: Strange, let me see
[21:01] <deathoncity> i believe that i have to disable the wired network to make this thing work
[21:01] <testi> Is MSN webcam in general unable to traverse NAT or is it just kopete?
[21:02] <voc> somebody help me please!!!!
[21:02] <gissi> deathoncity: not very common... run 'iwconfig'
[21:02] <deathoncity> lo        no wireless extensions.
[21:03] <deathoncity> eth0      no wireless extensions.
[21:03] <deathoncity> eth1      IEEE 802.11b/g  ESSID:""  Nickname:"Broadcom 4318"
[21:03] <deathoncity>           Mode:Managed  Access Point: Invalid
[21:03] <deathoncity> RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
[21:03] <deathoncity>           Encryption key:off
[21:03] <gissi> deathoncity: Wireless is on
[21:03] <gissi> deathoncity: See if you can connect
[21:07] <leqviq> elite
[21:09] <deathoncity_> nope
[21:09] <deathoncity_> is not working
[21:12] <gissi> deathoncity_: this error you told is normal.. should be connecting now...
[21:13] <deathoncity_> and now i have to eject the network cable to test it,or how?
[21:15] <gissi> deathoncity_: no, use the KNetworkManager to connect to your wireless network. You know how to do it?
[21:17] <deathoncity__> it doesn't work
[21:24] <paolo_> whois
[21:25] <myk_robinson> hey, how do i set up user accounts for Samba shares in Kubuntu?
[21:28] <kernco> Is there a way I can boot into Kubuntu and get to a tty without kdm starting?  kdm is broken right now, and it corrupts my ttys so I can't even get to a command line to fix it.
[21:32] <myk_robinson> kernco: once KDM screws up, can you press Ctrl+Alt+F2 to get to a tty?
[21:33] <kernco> myk_robinson: The text on the ttys just appears as junk, it's unreadable
[21:33] <myk_robinson> wow... When you boot, can you edit the boot menu and boot to recovery mode instead?
[21:33] <myk_robinson> BTW, is this a new install?
[21:34] <Vermux> how do I upgrade my wireless driver?
[21:34] <cryingtux> ! grub
[21:37] <kernco> I'll try doing the recovery mode
[21:37] <Vermux> I need wpa support.
[21:37] <myk_robinson> kernco: i believe recovery mode bypasses graphical login and boots straight to a console
[21:40] <Vermux> how do I see what is my wireless adapter name and model?
[21:40] <ccj> lspci |grep wireless
[21:45] <cryingtux> ! grub
[21:48] <filo1234> hi all, so i have a curiosity, :) there is a command for to verify kde version?
[21:48] <zerjio> Hi all!
[21:48] <Vermux> join /#linux
[22:01] <Vermux> I downloaded wireless driver from Intel. How do I install it?
[22:03] <Vermux> this is more complicated than I thought
[22:03] <coreymon77> not really
[22:04] <coreymon77> you just got the wrong card
[22:04] <coreymon77> mine woks without any installation or downloading whatsoever
[22:04] <coreymon77> !wifi | Vermux
[22:05] <Vermux> coreymon77: it works with windows, b with linux I have problem connecting. probably because the driver doesnt have WPA capability
[22:05] <coreymon77> Vermux: thats usually the case
[22:05] <coreymon77> wpa tends to be a pain in the neck
[22:06] <coreymon77> Vermux: check those docs, they should help
[22:06] <DarkriftX>  My laptop has some hard to install hardware that normally takes me weeks to install. It is all running now (have to reinstall on new hd, but im booted to single user mode). Someone told me there was a way to make a restore file of sorts for my hardware setup/drivers etc so that once I reinstall getting my hw working again would be easy, anyone know anything?
[22:10] <timucin> hello. I'm having problems with lirc, can anyone guide me?
[22:11] <coreymon77> with what?
[22:11] <coreymon77> just use konversation
[22:11] <coreymon77> !anyone | timucin
[22:12] <timucin> sorry ! I made a mistake.
[22:14] <kuser01> How do I set file access permissions for a user I have created in Kubuntu?
[22:15] <coreymon77> kuser01: look in system settings, there should be a user management thing somewhere in that
[22:16] <engineer> add him to the group that can access
[22:16] <Walzmyn> Using Nvidia X server settings, I have twice set it to use dual X screens, but after reboot it's set back to twinview - how do I get it to keep what I want?
[22:18] <kuser01> Where can I read about which groups have which access privelages?
[22:20] <Walzmyn> !groups
[22:20] <Walzmyn> :(
[22:20] <Walzmyn> !nvidia
[22:21] <engineer> kuser01 ls -ls
[22:21] <engineer> ls -la
[22:21] <kuser01> !users
[22:21] <Tech> i can't use my wireless with Ubuntu
[22:22] <Tech> please help
[22:22] <Tech> i'm using DELL INSPIRON 1501
[22:22] <kuser01> how can I prevent a user from accessing a specific file or device?
[22:23] <engineer> Tech http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=6&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ubuntu1501.com%2F2007%2F10%2Fwireless-in-ubuntu-710-gutsy-gibbon.html&ei=IXS0SN-PJZK2wQHp4OS3CA&usg=AFQjCNFP29b49M510iqB4pR04LmwMSdnnA&sig2=62G9uzCcvDCaCrWEx-JM3g
[22:23] <Tech> thank you
[22:25] <engineer> kuser01 make sure he doesn't belong to the allowed groups
[22:25] <engineer> and remove read permission from others
[22:26] <kuser01> engineer: what do you mean by "others"
[22:27] <kuser01> engineer: where can I read about which groups are allowed and which ones are not allowed?
[22:27] <techsupport> Welcome everyone!
[22:27] <Walzmyn> kuser01, each file has premissions for owner, group and others
[22:28] <Walzmyn> This dosen't make any sence - I'm trying to edit the xorg.conf via nvidia's gizmo....
[22:28] <kuser01> Walzmyn: when I try to change the permissions it says I do not have sufficient access to the file. When I'm trying to change those permissions I'm logged in as root or as an administrator.
[22:28] <Walzmyn> It's not saving anything to the xorg.conf file and giving an error about not being able to write on the BACKUP - but it's got root privlidiges
[22:28] <Walzmyn> kuser01, what file?
[22:29] <kuser01> Walzmyn: Typically a USB thumbdrive or some other device where I have stored private data.
[22:30] <kuser01> Walzmyn: does the file structure on the device make a difference? It was formated as FAT32.
[22:31] <Walzmyn> kuser01, I dunna, just tried it and i don't have that problem, sorry.
[22:31] <Walzmyn> ah, yes, kuser01
[22:31] <kernco> Where do I ask questions about Intrepid?
[22:31] <Walzmyn> kuser01, fat does not have the same permission structure that linux filesystems do
[22:31] <Walzmyn> it may not be ABLE to change to what ever you're trying to change it to.
[22:32] <Walzmyn> I'm not sure, I don't know the differences between the two.
[22:32] <kuser01> Walzmyn: What file structure would you advise I use when formating the device in order to get file permissions to work correctly?
[22:32] <Walzmyn> kuser01, is it ever going to see a windows comptuer?
[22:32] <Walzmyn> kernco, I don't know, but I got yelled at yesterday for asking in here.
[22:32] <Walzmyn> !intrepid
[22:33] <kuser01> Walzmyn: Probably not any more. Kubuntu is rocken solid and I'm not having any problems any more other than figuring out how to use it.
[22:33] <kernco> Ok, I wasn't sure if #ubuntu+1 was just for the Gnome distro or not
[22:33] <The_ManU_212> hi, anyone can tell me if my drives are ok? especially ecc and seek-time-performance? http://pastebin.com/m42102a17
[22:34] <Walzmyn> kuser01, then i'd use ext3, but Fat32 is the defacto standard for stuff that has to go between OS's
[22:34] <Walzmyn> kernco, did you have any rouble downloading and installing?
[22:34] <kuser01> Walzmyn: Thanks, I think you've just helped me solve this.
[22:35] <Walzmyn> kernco, I tried to install it ina virtual box, but it kept giving errors
[22:35] <kernco> No, my problem is that after updating it yesterday I get the error "No greeter plugin found. Check configuration." when kdm starts
[22:36] <Walzmyn> hehe, I read no Greater plugin found - I thought, well, will a lesser one do?
[22:37] <DarkriftX> can kde be reinstalled in single user mode?
[22:37] <DarkriftX> my laptop drive is dead, i want to copy the whole drive to a new drive and reinstall kde (kde wont boot, some corrupted files)
[22:50] <dwidmann> DarkriftX:  yes. "apt-get install kubuntu-desktop" should do the trick. There are quite a few good ways to copy the whole drive too.
[22:50] <DarkriftX> hrmmmmm
[22:50] <DarkriftX> cool
[22:53] <DarkriftX> ok, i have a usb drive attatched to /stuff and i want to backup the whole drive to that drive (minus that folder of course), how would i go about that (i dont know how to tell it to skip the /stuff folder)
[22:54] <dwidmann> DarkriftX: it should skip that folder automatically
[22:54] <DarkriftX> using cp ?
[22:54] <dwidmann> DarkriftX: sure
[22:54] <DarkriftX> nice
[22:55] <dwidmann> other good options are things like using dd to copy the whole partition bit-for-bit
[22:55] <DarkriftX> i got used to windows again since my laptop was down... windows doesnt do nice things for you
[22:55] <DarkriftX> im thinking that wouldnt help me much
[22:55] <DarkriftX> since the drive is partially corrupted
[22:56] <dwidmann> DarkriftX: maybe dd_rescue then
[22:56] <derdui> Hi, does anybody of you know a free and legal version of the java runtime environment for mozilla firefox? I have allready installed flashplugin- nonfree
[22:56] <DarkriftX> im going to first try to just do a plain install and then copy the files i need from my backup
[22:56] <DarkriftX> if that doesnt work right, ill format and copy the backup, then try to install kubuntu over the backup
[22:56] <DarkriftX> or vice versa
[22:59] <DarkriftX> so cp / /stuff
[22:59] <DarkriftX> that should work to bacup the whole drive?
[23:03] <The_ManU_212> hi, anyone can tell me if my drives are ok? especially ecc and seek-time-performance? http://pastebin.com/m42102a17
[23:08] <dwidmann> The_ManU_212: I've never really looked at smartctl before ... but a lot of mine are reading old_age and pre-fail too :(
[23:09] <dwidmann> and by a lot I mean all of them, on both my drives
[23:09] <The_ManU_212> dwidmann: oh...but i think my problem is only ecc and seek time performance
[23:22] <thedark> hello everyone I have a Toshiba laptop and have installed Kubuntu and everything I need fine, but for some reason Kubuntu doesn't recognize headphones when I put them into the headphone jack
[23:22] <ercan_> hello
[23:23] <thedark> the sound just keeps coming out of the speakers and nothing out of the headphones
[23:23] <ccj_> thedark : open Kmix
[23:24] <thedark> okay it is opn
[23:24] <thedark> *open
[23:24] <Sixofour> can anyone here answer some questions?
[23:24] <Sixofour> :D
[23:25] <Sixofour> contemplating on switching to kubuntu but unsure of the level that kubuntu and wine are at, and if they can fullfill my needs
[23:25] <ccj_> thedark : can you see the headphone scollbar ?
[23:25] <szakulec> wine's updated within a few days of a new release, and is provided through a separate repository
[23:25] <thedark> I see master and PCM
[23:25] <szakulec> (the new versions any way)
[23:26] <Alex135> thedark: i have the same problem. i have a Toshiba Sattelite A135-S4666 and it has alwase done that for me... never did come up with a solution so far (although i havn't really tried much either)
[23:27] <thedark> I have a Toshiba Satellite also :(
[23:28] <thedark> damn now it looks like I have to switch distros :(
[23:28] <thedark> but if ubuntu doesn't support it what would?
[23:28] <szakulec> don't feel bad- I have a Satellite as well, and fixed my issue
[23:28] <thedark> ? how did you do it
[23:28] <szakulec> I filed a bug on the alsa bug tracker, and then compiled my own copy of ALSA
[23:29] <thedark> oh geeze
[23:29] <Alex135> thedark: i just plugged in a USB headset and told it to go and output audio through it. Works fine! :)
[23:29] <thedark> I can't do that
[23:29] <thedark> did audio stop coming through the speakers?
[23:29] <Alex135> ya
[23:29] <thedark> and I have a lot of non-usb eq
[23:29] <Alex135> i used USB
[23:29] <Alex135> but you gotta tell it manually
[23:29] <szakulec> the easiest way is to right-click on Kmix, pick select master channel, and choose headphone
[23:29] <Alex135> it wont switch automatically
[23:30]  * Alex135 tries it
[23:30] <Alex135> nope
[23:30] <thedark> I could live with that
[23:31] <thedark> how do I change the master channel?
[23:31] <Alex135> thedark: was a long time ago and i dont remember how :P thats the one problem
[23:31] <Alex135> its in alsamixer but i dont remember what i do
[23:31] <Alex135> brb
[23:31] <Alex135> door bell
[23:31] <szakulec> right click on the KMix icon, choose select master channel, and choose what you want
[23:32] <thedark> all it allows me to choose is master and pcm
[23:33] <thedark> its just not detecting the headphones :-P
[23:33] <szakulec> that means your sound driver is missing the bit that handles headphone plugging
[23:34] <thedark> is there a way to fix it that doesn't involve recompiling?
[23:35] <szakulec> there's a list of options you can pass to your sound driver that may get more things working: search for your laptop model plus ALSA
[23:36] <Alex135> szakulec: i have a similer model of laptop as him and i have all of the options... but non of them work when i select them as the master channel
[23:37] <szakulec> that's a good and bad thing- the hope is that you'll only need the options temporarily while the driver is upgraded to handle that special case
[23:39] <Sixofour> hrm, should i switch to kubuntu?
[23:39] <thedark> if it works with your hardware
[23:39] <thedark> its great in that case!
[23:39] <Sixofour> i have an ATi Radeon x1300 i am worried about
[23:39] <Sixofour> and configuing wine will be scary
[23:39] <The_ManU_212> is tehre in kde default a action for ctrl+f1 or shift+f1?
[23:39] <thedark> well thanks guys, I'll see what I can do
[23:44] <lok> Hello this is life or death i really really need help SOS!!!, i installed Google Earth (the .bin) and everything was good, until i open it and when i start searching, when comes to the place it DISSAPPEAR!! it close totally by itself!! i need help is for a job!!! SOS!!! thenks so muchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[23:45] <coreymon77> lok: why do you need google earth
[23:46] <lok> i needed for a work in the university please help!
[23:46] <coreymon77> no clue
[23:47] <lok> please someone help me i have to finish it today!
[23:48] <rickest> lok: did it ever work?
[23:49] <rickest> lok: and did you install the version from ubuntu repositories or one you downloaded from google?
[23:50] <lok> from google
[23:50] <rickest> lok: remove that and try: apt-get install googleearth-4.3
[23:50] <mschiff> hello
[23:50] <mschiff> are there kde 3.5.10 packages available for hardy?
[23:50] <lok> i saw that the version in the repositories is very old
[23:51] <lok> since the first time it does this
[23:51] <rickest> lok: the GoogleEarth page itself is for downloading 4.3.  same versions
[23:51] <lok> well it says in the repositories that its version 0.4 or somethin'
[23:52] <rickest> lok: do you want help or do you want to argue.  USE APT-GET INSTALL
[23:53] <nicola> Salve!Qualcuno conosce un software per Ubuntu che riconosce il Samsung SGH-ZV40?
[23:53] <rickest> !.pr
[23:53] <rickest> !.es
[23:53] <rickest> !.br
[23:54] <lok> sorry but it says that's not found
[23:55] <nicola> Sorry!It's my first time here.Do you know an Ubuntu phonr mobile application that recognize Samsung SGH-ZV40?
[23:55] <rickest> nicola: sorry, I don't  :(
[23:56] <lok> sorry it says that google earth is not found!!
[23:56] <nicola> Thanks, it's no very important...
[23:57] <rickest> lok: did you type what I wrote above "remove that and try"....
[23:58] <rickest> lok: and you'll probably need 'sudo' in front of that, I was assuming you already knew that
[23:58] <lok> of course i put sudo
[23:59] <rickest> k, it's installing then?