[01:28] <bdmurray> Is there an archive of launchpad page layouts somewhere?
[02:22] <muntyan> hi guys. is it possible to delete a bzr branch?
[02:27] <Adri2000> yes, on the branch page, next to its name, there is an icon for deleting and an icon for editing
[02:29] <muntyan> damn it, i was looking for text!
[02:29] <muntyan> Adri2000: thanks :)
[03:17] <Peng_> jml: bzr+http? :)
[03:21] <bdrung> mwhudson: vcs import failed again ( https://code.launchpad.net/~vcs-imports/htmlvalidator/trunk ). is it really a fault of sourceforge?
[03:28] <mwhudson> bdrung: urgh, don't know really
[03:28] <mwhudson> it might be a bug in cscvs too
[03:29] <bdrung> svn co / up / commit works without errors.
[03:32] <muntyan> if i want to get translations on launchpad, and i can't have a bzr branch there, do i upload a tarball?
[03:35] <mwhudson> bdrung: so the reason the import fails is that the importing process doesn't produce any output for an hour
[03:38] <mwhudson> given that it tries to output something every 30 seconds, i think, something has clearly gone wrong...
[03:39] <bdrung> mwhudson: is there an option to resume an import?
[03:39] <mwhudson> no :(
[03:40] <bdrung> :(
[03:40] <bdrung> one idea: sourceforge kills the connection after 24 hours.
[03:41] <bdrung> do the servers have static ips?
[03:42] <mwhudson> yes
[03:42] <mwhudson> we've had imports that run for much longer than 24 hours though
[03:43] <mwhudson> (also the importer uses lots of connections, not just one)
[03:44] <bdrung> ok, then my idea is wrong
[03:45] <mwhudson> hm
[03:45] <mwhudson> it seems i can grab the svn repo by rysnc
[03:45] <mwhudson> rsync
[03:45] <mwhudson> so i could try to do the import from there
[03:49] <mwhudson> bdrung: there will be some odd things happening to the code import
[04:01] <mwhudson> this seems to be going slightly faster
[04:02] <mwhudson> (like ~100x faster)
[04:07] <mwhudson> bdrung: wee, it worked
[04:07] <bdrung> mwhudson: übercool
[04:08] <mwhudson> bdrung: now i just need to fiddle things so that subsequent imports come from the right place...
[04:10] <mwhudson> bdrung: all done!
[04:11] <bdrung> thx
[04:11] <mwhudson> jeepers though, 25 hours to fail to import from a remote repo, vs 13 minutes to import from a file:///
[04:11] <bdrung> i needs hours to scroll through my firefox tabs
[04:11] <mwhudson> something is wrong here
[04:11] <bdrung> yes
[04:12] <bdrung> and my clock is wrong too
[04:12] <bdrung> how can it be 5:12 in the night?
[04:12] <mwhudson> hope you enjoy your new branch :)
[04:43] <bdrung> mwhudson: no. i throw it away. *joke*
[09:50] <laacque> Hi there, got some problems when I try to change my emailadress in launchpad. I want to add a new emailaddress first, than I get the message that I m not allowed to do so, eventhough I m logged in.
[13:47] <thekorn> hi leonardr, are there any plans to update python-httplib2 in ubuntu?
[13:48] <thekorn> because the most recent update of launchpadlib is unusable because of an import error
[13:52] <epsy> hi, i've noticed this search field at the top of the bazaar. pages, trough it appears to not have any search index at all, is that a known issue?
[13:56] <leonardr> thekorn, what revision of launchpadlib are you using?
[13:57] <thekorn> 15
[13:57] <leonardr> thekorn, i thought i fixed that in launchpadlib
[13:58] <thekorn> <type 'exceptions.ImportError'>: cannot import name safename
[13:58] <leonardr> ah, a different error
[13:58] <thekorn> in _browser.py
[13:58] <thekorn> and also another one:
[13:58] <thekorn> please also remove super() in the _request() method
[13:59] <thekorn> of OAuthSigningHttp() that is
[13:59] <leonardr> thekorn, what version do you get from dpkg -l python-httplib2?
[13:59] <thekorn> 0.2.0-2
[14:00] <leonardr> are you using dapper or something?
[14:00] <leonardr> i have 0.4.0-1
[14:00] <thekorn> no hardy,
[14:00] <thekorn> same version in intrepid
[14:01] <thekorn> according to https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-httplib2
[14:01] <leonardr> i don't know how this happened
[14:01] <leonardr> maybe the launchpad developer dependencies include a later httplib2
[14:02] <leonardr> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-httplib2/+bug/239734
[14:03] <leonardr> yes, the developer dependencies have a later version
[14:12] <BUGabundo> hi guys
[14:12] <BUGabundo> I'm getting timeouts
[14:12] <BUGabundo> on LP
[14:12] <BUGabundo>          (Error ID:         OOPS-969EB69)
[14:12] <BUGabundo> with this url https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+builds?build_text=2.6.&build_state=all
[14:15] <BUGabundo> (Error ID:         OOPS-969EB73)
[14:15] <BUGabundo> peachy
[14:15] <leonardr> thekorn: i thought i could make it work with the old version, but if the old version doesn't have safename that's not possible. i've commented on the bug that 0.4.0 is a launchpadlib dependency, and i'll bring it up in the standup today
[14:15] <bigjools> BUGabundo: I see the same, thanks for letting me know
[14:15] <BUGabundo> should I email LP-users?
[14:15] <Syntux> Do we have a roadmap of when we will have translation API ?
[14:16] <bigjools> BUGabundo: no, I've got the oops, thanks
[14:16] <BUGabundo> ok
[14:16] <BUGabundo> didn't know you were a lp dev, bigjools
[14:17] <bigjools> now you do :)
[14:17] <geser> are there somewhere some examples how to use the LP API? e.g. for adding a comment to a bug?
[14:17] <thekorn> leonardr, ok cool
[14:17] <leonardr> Syntux: no, it depends on when the translation team can make time to do the work. i'll investigate
[14:18] <BUGabundo> can u let me know of a way to search for the kernel next  (2.6.27) without the time out , bigjools ?
[14:18] <Syntux> leonardr, we have a project that is so dependent on translation API
[14:18] <wgrant> BUGabundo: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux?
[14:18] <bigjools> what he said
[14:18] <leonardr> Syntux, what is the project?
[14:19] <BUGabundo> thanks wgrant, bigjools
[14:19] <Syntux> leonardr, a sponsored translation campaign, we need a way to count translated string per user within certain period and we need a way to review the quality of translation to approve or not
[14:20] <thekorn> geser, I'm not sure if adding comments is possible right now, lst time I check it wasn't
[14:21] <leonardr> Syntux: that's a cool project, and you should talk to the translations team about it so they can be thinking about it when they do the work
[14:22] <Syntux> leonardr, ubuntu-translators or do we have LP translation team ?
[14:23] <leonardr> Syntux: it would be someone on the LP team, I'm not sure who
[14:24] <intellectronica> thekorn, geser: no, you can't add new comments to bugs using the api yet. hopefully in the next release
[14:24] <Syntux> leonardr, Okie :-) will digg it up :-)
[14:25] <thekorn> geser, cool thin is: you can add an attachment with a comment ;)
[14:26] <intellectronica> thekorn, geser: indeed. please don't abuse this, though :)
[14:26] <thekorn> hehe
[14:26] <geser> so I just need to find a 1 byte attachment? ;)
[14:32] <intellectronica> geser: 1 bit, please. global warming and all that, you know...
[14:37] <jpds> Could someone please look into: https://edge.launchpad.net/+builds/vernadsky ?
[14:40] <epsy> who maintains ubottu ?
[14:41] <jpds> epsy: jussi01; for queries about the bot, best try in #ubuntu-irc.
[14:53] <geser> jpds: it's building now since 5 days?
[14:53] <jpds> geser: That's what it appears to say.
[15:10] <hyperair_> hello. how do i associate a team with a certain project?
[15:10] <hyperair_> as in under related projects =\
[15:15] <jpds> hyperair_: Change the projects driver or owner to the team you want to relate it to.
[15:16] <hyperair_> driver?
[15:16] <hyperair_> i see
[15:16] <hyperair_> nevermind then lol
[15:37] <stub> Syntux: I think you need to talk to jtv
[15:38] <jtv> Syntux: hi
[15:39] <Syntux> stub, jtv  Hi :-)
[15:39] <jtv> Syntux: what's the problem?
[15:40] <Syntux> jtv,  We're planning for sponsored translation campaign to boost up the Arabic translation progress, we will pay $0.10 per translated string (now you wish you speak Arabic), so we need a way to count translated strings per user within certain period and of course we need a way to QA the translation by approving & disapproving it to avoid skams for money :-)
[15:42] <jtv> Syntux: you may need to treat members of the translation team differently from non-members.  The distinction is there exactly so that members can review.
[15:42] <Syntux> jtv, only selected members will have that distinction
[15:42] <jtv> Syntux: also, if you go to a user's home page and click on the Translations tab there (or you go to the Translations app and click on a user name there), you'll see an overview of what they contributed recently in terms of translations.
[15:43] <jtv> Syntux: so there are separate groups, one that translates for money and one that reviews the translations?
[15:44] <Syntux> jtv, yes and those selected reviewers will not be able to translate
[15:44] <Syntux> jtv, but they will get paid for reviewing translation.
[15:44] <jtv> Syntux: that's great
[15:45] <Syntux> jtv, :-) now, is it possible to find someone to help us in building such integrated app with LP ?
[15:52] <Syntux> jtv, I mean, it might be piece of cake kind of tasks for one of LP developers and if that models worked out it can be used with other translation teams, we got the money, we can market the campaign around Arabic blogs and forums, we got the team but we lack the development skills to build such app
[15:55] <jtv> Syntux: hold on, I'm just checking whether the UI can give you everything you need
[15:55] <jtv> Syntux: it's a bit of extra work, but you could go over the per-person translation overview.  That lists the translations (per PO file) that the person has contributed to.  If you click through from there, you'll see the list of actual strings.  The ones that have been accepted will be highlighted.
[15:55] <jtv> Syntux: looks to me like you could write a script around curl or wget to get this information, and use "grep -c" to get the counts per person.
[15:56] <jtv> Syntux: just a moment, have to go talk to someone
[15:56] <Syntux> jtv, the thing is, sponsors love reporting and we need to be accurate especially when money is involved, so I thought we could do it in a web app.
[15:56] <Syntux> jtv, sure.
[16:02] <jtv> Syntux: back.  A script should be accurate, as long as it can deal with result pagination.
[16:03] <Syntux> jtv, so there is no chance to get an LP developer doing an app for us ?
[16:04] <jtv> Syntux: I don't think we can do that...  just not enough time!
[16:07] <Syntux> jtv, I'd do it myself it we had translation API but with the current API we can do nothing, this is why I'm asking for an LP developer
[16:09] <jtv> Syntux: I can help you get the information you need to use the HTML as an API though
[16:10] <Syntux> jtv, lovely, what's your email? I will build a basic app and proceed with your help
[16:11] <jtv> Syntux: same as my IRC nick, but at canonical.com.  :-)
[16:12] <Syntux> jtv, lovely :-) I appreciate your time and efforts in advance.
[16:13] <jtv> Syntux: np, hope I can help you get a good solution
[16:14] <Syntux> jtv,  you will :-)
[16:47] <jtanner> I just want to publish a couple of open-sourced projects and am a beginner in the open source hosting stuff. I've been looking around the launchpad website and have registered a 'blueprint', i guess that's a project.  Ok, what's next?
[16:50] <Adri2000> jtanner: a blueprint isn't a project
[16:51] <jtanner> an outline of the project?
[16:52] <Adri2000> a blueprint is used for new features
[16:52] <Adri2000> to specify it, track its implementation progress, etc.
[16:53] <Adri2000> blueprints is one component of launchpad your project can use
[16:53] <Adri2000> there are also bugs, translations, answers, code
[16:53] <jtanner> where do i start, i have the idea and probably a couple of files / screenshots I could upload, or at least initial documentation
[16:53] <jtanner> oh register a project
[16:54] <Adri2000> yes
[16:57] <jtanner> I'll be static linking against an irrlicht.a library I keep updated, I don't need to distribute irrlicht itself, right?  I can just distribute the binaries and source of my project?
[16:57] <jtanner> I make no modifications to irrlicht.a
[17:02] <emet_> how do I add downloads
[17:02] <emet_> to a launchpad project
[17:17] <yannick> Hi guys, can smoeone give at least aa answer to this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/launchpad-buildd/+bug/259173 I'm running into trouble each time i try to build Ekiga. The build service is just not usable like it is now for me :/
[17:45] <bdrung> yannick: which distro?
[17:46] <bdrung> gutsy, hardy, intrepid?
[17:46] <bdrung> according to your ppa, for hardy its build and the deb files are published
[17:47] <bdrung> yannick: it needs some time till the builded packages are copied to the repository
[17:51] <yannick> bdrung, sometimes? like more than 13 hours?
[17:51] <VladimirMelo> hello, anyone knows when we're going to have intrepid available to translate in rosetta?
[17:51] <yannick> yannick, i'm pushing new packs before the one in the PPA are not published correctly.
[17:52] <yannick> yannick, i'm pushing new source packs, because the one in the PPA are not published correctly.*
[17:53] <yannick> bdrung, i've issue with gutsy and intrepid. It is like playing dice.
[17:53] <bdrung> yannick: 13 hours is a bit long. normally it needs some minutes.
[17:53] <yannick> bdrung, it seems stuck.
[17:54] <bdrung> yannick: if you publish many packages, they can be queue and you have to wait hours until the build gets started
[17:54] <yannick> bdrung, see yourself: https://launchpad.net/~sevmek/+archive
[17:55] <yannick> bdrung, it issue is: i need to spam the PPA each time i want to build, there is too much failures.
[17:56] <bdrung> do they only fail in the ppa and build locally correct?
[17:57] <bdrung> yannick: are there interpackage relations?
[17:59] <yannick> bdrung, yes: "ekiga" build over "libopal" which in turn build over "libpt".
[18:00] <bdrung> its better to test the build locally and only if there are no errors then upload a package to ppa. because you have to wait until a package is build in ppa.
[18:01] <yannick> bdmurray, it build locally, it even build the amd64 version, but do not build i386 version! because it wait a dependancy over another ppa's package.
[18:02] <yannick> see: ekiga-snapshot - 20080825v1gutsy4
[18:02] <bdrung> yannick: you have to wait till ptlib is build (queued 27 minutes ago, Estimated build start in 55 minutes).
[18:03] <yannick> ptlib is built since: 16 hours! see ptlib-2.3 - 20080825v1gutsy4
[18:04] <bdrung> yannick: then check if the builded package was copied to the repository (on your ppa website there should be the *.deb files listet)
[18:05] <bdrung> yannick: ptlib-2.3 - 20080826v4hardy4 , ptlib-2.3 - 20080826v02intrepid4 , ptlib-2.3 - 20080825v1gutsy4  are published and only ptlib-2.3 - 20080826v03intrepid4  is pending
[18:05] <yannick> yes
[18:05] <bdrung> its need to build on i386 for intrepid
[18:06] <yannick> yes, issue is one gutsy, not intrepid
[18:06] <yannick> s/one/on
[18:07] <bdrung> opal-3.3 - 20080825v1gutsy4 fails on lpia because libx264-dev is missing
[18:07] <yannick> libpt-2.3_20080825v1gutsy4_i386.deb	26-Aug-2008 01:41 	1.1M see http://ppa.launchpad.net/sevmek/ubuntu/pool/main/p/ptlib-2.3/libpt-2.3_20080825v1gutsy4_i386.deb
[18:08] <bdrung> lpia failed, not i386
[18:08] <yannick> opal-3.3 - 20080825v1gutsy4 fails on lpia because the libx264-dev package is missing on gutsy/lpia
[18:09] <yannick> should i provide it too in my PPA?
[18:09] <bdrung> yannick: if you want opal to be build, then yes
[18:09] <bdrung> the other packages are queue, so waiting is the solution.
[18:09] <yannick> will this solve all the trouble?
[18:10] <yannick> ok i'll do it
[18:10] <bdrung> yannick: i have to go now. when i come back i will have a look.
[18:10] <yannick> ok, thx
[18:10] <bdrung> otherwise ping me
[18:11] <yannick> ok
[18:17] <oSoMoN> hi all
[18:17] <oSoMoN> I'm having trouble uploading a package to our PPA (https://launchpad.net/~elisa-developers/+archive)
[18:18] <oSoMoN> a few hours ago a package called elisa-plugins-good-0.5.7-1fluendo1~ppa1 was successfully uploaded
[18:18] <oSoMoN> but it was buggy
[18:19] <oSoMoN> I rebuilt it as elisa-plugins-good-0.5.7-1fluendo1~ppa2
[18:19] <oSoMoN> and try to upload it using dput
[18:19] <oSoMoN> everything seems to work fine, but I can't see it in LP
[18:20] <RichW> How do i make a project group?
[18:20] <RichW> for the life of me i cant figure it out
[18:21] <RainCT> Hi. Is some LP admin around?
[18:23] <intellectronica> RichW: you can't make one yourself, you'll have to file a question on the launchpad project, and an admin will attend to it asap, review the request and create the group for you
[18:23] <intellectronica> RichW: which projects are you hoping to put under this project group?
[18:24] <RichW> hypernucleus and hypernucleus-server, i suppose the project group could be called hypernucleus-project
[18:26] <RichW> intellectronica: your an admin?
[18:27] <intellectronica> RichW: sorry to disappoint you, i'm not
[18:28] <oSoMoN> anyone: a clue about my problem?
[18:31] <RichW> RainCT: I would advise using https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/
[18:32] <RainCT> nevermind don't need one anymore :)
[18:36] <intellectronica> oSoMoN: cprov may be able to help you
[18:37] <oSoMoN> thx, I'll ping him
[18:37] <cprov> oSoMoN: you are missing a upload, right ? did you receive an acceptance/rejection email about the upload ?
[18:37] <oSoMoN> nope, that's what's weird about it
[18:39] <cprov> oSoMoN: an email was sent about 30 min ago to Philippe Normand <philippe@fluendo.com>
[18:40] <oSoMoN> ah crap THE guy of the team who is on vacation
[18:40] <cprov> oSoMoN: and the error was: Unable to find elisa-plugins-good_0.5.7.orig.tar.gz in upload or distribution.
[18:40] <cprov> oSoMoN: usual oddness ;)
[18:41] <oSoMoN> how can I change the e-mail setting so that it's sent to me instead?
[18:41] <oSoMoN> or sent to him and me
[18:43] <cprov> oSoMoN: change the email address responsible for the current version in debian/changelog
[18:44] <oSoMoN> ok, makes sense
[18:44] <oSoMoN> thanks I'll retry with this
[18:44] <cprov> oSoMoN: are you using his key to sign the upload ?
[18:44] <oSoMoN> we're using a shared key for packaging
[18:44] <oSoMoN> that he generated
[18:46] <cprov> oSoMoN: but the key is associated to him in LP, right ?
[18:46] <oSoMoN> I guess so
[18:47] <cprov> oSoMoN: it would be easier if you could setup you own key
[18:47] <oSoMoN> cprov: indeed it is associated to him
[18:48] <cprov> oSoMoN: then, if you use that to sign the upload (even if philippe is the user responsible for the change), you would receive an email too.
[18:49] <oSoMoN> yeah I understand
[19:35] <No`> howdy all
[19:35] <No`> darn. Where's the Revell when you need him?
[20:46] <bdrung> yannick: i am back
[20:47] <yannick> bdrung, i'm building x264
[20:47] <bdrung> i saw it
[20:48] <bdrung> your version sheme is a bit strange
[20:49] <yannick> yes, that's personnal...
[20:49] <yannick> I agreed with myself...
[20:49] <yannick> I hope x264 will help
[20:52] <bdrung_> yannick: can you try to restart the ekiga-snapshot - 20080826v02intrepid4 building?
[20:52] <bdrung_> there should be an option in lp to do that
[20:52] <yannick> ok
[20:52] <bdrung_> and you can restart ekiga-snapshot - 20080825v2gutsy4 on i386
[20:54] <yannick> bdrung_, done
[20:54] <bdrung_> yannick: x264 - 1:0.svn20070309-7ubuntu1 has finished building on amd64 and lpia, but it is not copied to your archive yet
[20:55] <yannick> bdrung_, what can i do?
[20:55] <beDrung> yannick: wait
[20:55] <beDrung> between 5 - 15 mins
[20:55] <yannick> ok
[21:16] <bdrung> yannick: you can restart opal-3.3 - 20080825v1gutsy4 for lpia
[21:18] <yannick> ok
[21:31] <bdrung> yannick: ekiga-snapshot - 20080826v02intrepid4 failed to build.
[21:31] <bdrung> due to missing libpt-2.3-dev (= 20080826v02intrepid4)
[21:32] <bdrung> but you have only in a newer version in your archive: ptlib-2.3 - 20080826v03intrepid4
[21:32] <Mez> What's with emails about a new mailing list?
[21:32] <yannick> bdrung, no, i build on exact version
[21:32] <yannick> this failur for intrepid was expected
[21:33] <yannick> i will push a new source pack for ekiga-snapshot/intrepid
[21:33] <yannick> when opal for intrepid will be built and published
[21:33] <bdrung> normally we use >= for versions
[21:34] <yannick> bdrung, yes, but i rely on SVN trunk, thus i suffer from API brakage from time to time
[21:34] <yannick> exact version ensure the set "ptlib+opal+ekiga" is right
[21:34] <bdrung> ok, then its right to do so
[21:49] <bdrung> yannick: tip: you can use dashes in the version name.