| ogra-Q1 | /join #ubuntu-devel | 11:05 |
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| ogra | hmm | 11:06 |
| ogra | seems empathy doesnt let you use IRC commands in IRC or i'm to silly to use it | 11:06 |
| * ogra-Q1 tries again | 11:17 | |
| ogra-Q1 | /join #ubuntu-motu | 11:17 |
| ogra-Q1 | now thats just silly | 11:17 |
| ogra-Q1 | /msg ogra hello | 11:18 |
| * ogra-Q1 shakes his head | 11:18 | |
| ogra-Q1 | why the heck do they make /me work but ignore all other IRC commands | 11:19 |
| ogra-Q1 | /msg nickserv moo | 11:19 |
| ogra-Q1 | heh | 11:19 |
| * ogra-Q1 considers empathy a security risk that way and uninstalls it | 11:21 | |
| guruz | lol | 11:24 |
| ogra | its insane .... | 11:24 |
| ogra | they should at least keep /msg working | 11:24 |
| ogra | if people dont want to identify right away they will surely run into showing their pw publically | 11:25 |
| davmor2 | ogra it does but only on msg page | 11:25 |
| StevenK | ogra: "Fun" | 11:25 |
| ogra | davmor2, would you expect that ? | 11:25 |
| ogra | (without reading the docs i mean) | 11:26 |
| ogra | i know a lot of overcautious people that dont save their PW in the app and use /msg nickserv blah | 11:26 |
| davmor2 | nope but I'm using empathy on my main system as the memory leak on pidgin kept killing it's performance :) | 11:26 |
| ogra | well, i use xchat for IRC anyway, but my task this week is to revie IM apps for mobile ... empaty just failed the test with that issue ... | 11:27 |
| ogra | its oterwise not worse than pidgin | 11:28 |
| ogra | (i wonder though why they picked gossip as their UI base) | 11:28 |
| davmor2 | ogra: it was the default gnome one and they wanted to reuse existing code rather than create another new one | 11:29 |
| ogra | well, the pidgin UI is likely more used | 11:29 |
| * ogra didnt know gossip was default in gnome2 | 11:29 | |
| davmor2 | ogra: to be fair when it is done right it works quite well but I got to admit that not using all the protocols is bloody annoying :) | 11:48 |
| ogra | its on a good path, but still not where it shoud be for being mainstream | 11:48 |
| davmor2 | ogra: try some of the other protocols they make a lot more sense :) | 11:49 |
| davmor2 | and the smileys look ugly I think :) | 11:50 |
| ogra | if i only could remember my jabber account data | 11:50 |
| StevenK | ogra: You and me both | 11:50 |
| ogra | raaah ... i would just like to close my window but need to approve 1 mio contacts first | 11:55 |
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| persia | ogra: ubuntu-mobile-default-settings reviewed. Adda second ACK, archive, and push at your leisure. | 14:12 |
| ogra | you mean i should ACK myself | 14:13 |
| ogra | ? | 14:13 |
| ogra | fun | 14:13 |
| persia | Yep. Good to have a record of two ACKs, and I don't want to run dput :) | 14:15 |
| persia | Just remember to archive after you ACK, and then dput. | 14:15 |
| ogra | archived | 14:15 |
| * ogra ponders if a ubuntu-mobile-artwork is worth a separate package for a single gtkrc file (actually two changes to the NewHuman gtkrc) | 14:17 | |
| persia | ogra: Just stuff it in -default-settings (but now you have to wait for NEW) | 14:35 |
| ogra | yeah, doesnt matter | 14:36 |
| ogra | artwork deadline is still a month out :) | 14:36 |
| ian_brasil | hi...is there some way to stop hardware detection on every boot? | 15:18 |
| persia | ian_brasil: You could hardcode module loading. | 15:20 |
| ogra | and blacklist the unwanted ones ... but thats a good bunch of work | 15:21 |
| ogra | (i hope to write some scripts for intrepid+1 to improve bootspeed ) | 15:21 |
| ian_brasil | how do i hardcode the modules? | 15:28 |
| ogra | put them into /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and run sudo update-initamfs -u | 15:29 |
| ogra | that forcefully loads them after initramfs is unpackaed | 15:30 |
| ian_brasil | nice! | 15:31 |
| ian_brasil | and change /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf ? | 15:31 |
| ogra | no | 15:32 |
| ogra | just add them in the modules file | 15:32 |
| ian_brasil | understood | 15:33 |
| ogra | the file is looped by the load_modules function from /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init | 15:34 |
| ogra | (which is the actual init used by initramfs | 15:35 |
| ogra | ) | 15:35 |
| ian_brasil | but what if MODULES still has the value 'most' in the .conf...will it try to pull modules which are not necessary? | 15:44 |
| ogra | tats about what modules are copied into the initramfs, not about which ones are probed | 15:46 |
| shishirm1 | has any tried installed clutter on ubuntu 8.04 or ubuntu netbook remix apps?? | 15:48 |
| ian_brasil | and to stop a probe on every boot? | 15:49 |
| ogra | for that you need to hack up udev | 15:49 |
| ogra | (udev needs to probe to create the necessary devcies) | 15:50 |
| StevenK | shishirm1: Clutter is already installed for UNR | 15:50 |
| shishirm1 | unr?? | 15:51 |
| StevenK | Ubuntu Netbook Remix | 15:51 |
| shishirm1 | ya | 15:51 |
| shishirm1 | i tried that without ume launcher | 15:52 |
| shishirm1 | so i couldn work with it | 15:52 |
| shishirm1 | i have a khojinsha sh series notebook | 15:52 |
| shishirm1 | and it runs intel atom processor | 15:52 |
| shishirm1 | can i use ume launcher? | 15:53 |
| * ian_brasil is not looking forward to hacking udev | 15:53 | |
| shishirm1 | a110 the specific model | 15:54 |
| ian_brasil | so the quickest way to speed up boot is through a custom kernel? | 15:54 |
| shishirm1 | i tried ume on it the touch screen an stuf weren good | 15:54 |
| shishirm1 | http://www.hclleaptops.in/mileap/product2.asp here is the link of my laptop | 15:55 |
| shishirm1 | if u can please help me get a touch screen frndly interface on my installed ubuntu 8.04 desktop edition | 15:55 |
| ogra | ian_brasil, what would you gain with a custom kernel (apart from having to hack up udev even more) | 15:58 |
| ogra | its all about modules | 15:58 |
| ian_brasil | ogra: udev takes around 30s on our test machine (geode with a 500 mhz processor) | 16:11 |
| ogra | look for the udevsettle command in udevs initrscript | 16:11 |
| ogra | comment that part out | 16:12 |
| ogra | rebuild the initramfs and try again | 16:12 |
| ogra | also you should install bootchart to get a clearer view of whats happening | 16:12 |
| ogra | (it will create a png in /var/log/bootchart/ after booting) | 16:13 |
| ian_brasil | ogra: dude, you rock.... boot before was 1m 30s and it is now 55s ! | 16:27 |
| ogra | ;) | 16:27 |
| ogra | ian_brasil, but have a close look at your HW ... dropping the udevsettle can cause races ... for i.e. alsa modules, so i'd suggest to test everything | 16:28 |
| ogra | its a safetynet to make sure it works everywhere but usually to slow HW isnt the issue with it ... rather the opposite (booting to fast for HW to show up) | 16:29 |
| nxvl | good morning! | 16:40 |
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| Moc | is there an image for Asus EEE 701 ? | 18:41 |
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