[11:05] /join #ubuntu-devel [11:06] hmm [11:06] seems empathy doesnt let you use IRC commands in IRC or i'm to silly to use it [11:17] * ogra-Q1 tries again [11:17] /join #ubuntu-motu [11:17] now thats just silly [11:18] /msg ogra hello [11:18] * ogra-Q1 shakes his head [11:19] why the heck do they make /me work but ignore all other IRC commands [11:19] /msg nickserv moo [11:19] heh [11:21] * ogra-Q1 considers empathy a security risk that way and uninstalls it [11:24] lol [11:24] its insane .... [11:24] they should at least keep /msg working [11:25] if people dont want to identify right away they will surely run into showing their pw publically [11:25] ogra it does but only on msg page [11:25] ogra: "Fun" [11:25] davmor2, would you expect that ? [11:26] (without reading the docs i mean) [11:26] i know a lot of overcautious people that dont save their PW in the app and use /msg nickserv blah [11:26] nope but I'm using empathy on my main system as the memory leak on pidgin kept killing it's performance :) [11:27] well, i use xchat for IRC anyway, but my task this week is to revie IM apps for mobile ... empaty just failed the test with that issue ... [11:28] its oterwise not worse than pidgin [11:28] (i wonder though why they picked gossip as their UI base) [11:29] ogra: it was the default gnome one and they wanted to reuse existing code rather than create another new one [11:29] well, the pidgin UI is likely more used [11:29] * ogra didnt know gossip was default in gnome2 [11:48] ogra: to be fair when it is done right it works quite well but I got to admit that not using all the protocols is bloody annoying :) [11:48] its on a good path, but still not where it shoud be for being mainstream [11:49] ogra: try some of the other protocols they make a lot more sense :) [11:50] and the smileys look ugly I think :) [11:50] if i only could remember my jabber account data [11:50] ogra: You and me both [11:55] raaah ... i would just like to close my window but need to approve 1 mio contacts first === asac_ is now known as asac [14:12] ogra: ubuntu-mobile-default-settings reviewed. Adda second ACK, archive, and push at your leisure. [14:13] you mean i should ACK myself [14:13] ? [14:13] fun [14:15] Yep. Good to have a record of two ACKs, and I don't want to run dput :) [14:15] Just remember to archive after you ACK, and then dput. [14:15] archived [14:17] * ogra ponders if a ubuntu-mobile-artwork is worth a separate package for a single gtkrc file (actually two changes to the NewHuman gtkrc) [14:35] ogra: Just stuff it in -default-settings (but now you have to wait for NEW) [14:36] yeah, doesnt matter [14:36] artwork deadline is still a month out :) [15:18] hi...is there some way to stop hardware detection on every boot? [15:20] ian_brasil: You could hardcode module loading. [15:21] and blacklist the unwanted ones ... but thats a good bunch of work [15:21] (i hope to write some scripts for intrepid+1 to improve bootspeed ) [15:28] how do i hardcode the modules? [15:29] put them into /etc/initramfs-tools/modules and run sudo update-initamfs -u [15:30] that forcefully loads them after initramfs is unpackaed [15:31] nice! [15:31] and change /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf ? [15:32] no [15:32] just add them in the modules file [15:33] understood [15:34] the file is looped by the load_modules function from /usr/share/initramfs-tools/init [15:35] (which is the actual init used by initramfs [15:35] ) [15:44] but what if MODULES still has the value 'most' in the .conf...will it try to pull modules which are not necessary? [15:46] tats about what modules are copied into the initramfs, not about which ones are probed [15:48] has any tried installed clutter on ubuntu 8.04 or ubuntu netbook remix apps?? [15:49] and to stop a probe on every boot? [15:49] for that you need to hack up udev [15:50] (udev needs to probe to create the necessary devcies) [15:50] shishirm1: Clutter is already installed for UNR [15:51] unr?? [15:51] Ubuntu Netbook Remix [15:51] ya [15:52] i tried that without ume launcher [15:52] so i couldn work with it [15:52] i have a khojinsha sh series notebook [15:52] and it runs intel atom processor [15:53] can i use ume launcher? [15:53] * ian_brasil is not looking forward to hacking udev [15:54] a110 the specific model [15:54] so the quickest way to speed up boot is through a custom kernel? [15:54] i tried ume on it the touch screen an stuf weren good [15:55] http://www.hclleaptops.in/mileap/product2.asp here is the link of my laptop [15:55] if u can please help me get a touch screen frndly interface on my installed ubuntu 8.04 desktop edition [15:58] ian_brasil, what would you gain with a custom kernel (apart from having to hack up udev even more) [15:58] its all about modules [16:11] ogra: udev takes around 30s on our test machine (geode with a 500 mhz processor) [16:11] look for the udevsettle command in udevs initrscript [16:12] comment that part out [16:12] rebuild the initramfs and try again [16:12] also you should install bootchart to get a clearer view of whats happening [16:13] (it will create a png in /var/log/bootchart/ after booting) [16:27] ogra: dude, you rock.... boot before was 1m 30s and it is now 55s ! [16:27] ;) [16:28] ian_brasil, but have a close look at your HW ... dropping the udevsettle can cause races ... for i.e. alsa modules, so i'd suggest to test everything [16:29] its a safetynet to make sure it works everywhere but usually to slow HW isnt the issue with it ... rather the opposite (booting to fast for HW to show up) [16:40] good morning! === matt_c__ is now known as matt_c [18:41] is there an image for Asus EEE 701 ? === matt_c is now known as akrito_ === akrito_ is now known as matt_c === cshadowrun is now known as CShadowRun