[00:04] <xXxREDxBULLxXx> ...I installed CRRCSim and can't uninstall it now :(
[00:05] <excalibas> hello, how can i use my wifi for internet and cable for networking? (at the same time)  can someone direct me for some help on this please?
[00:15] <excalibas> is this the best way? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[00:15] <excalibas> maybe there is some easer way...
[00:18] <xXxREDxBULLxXx> any ideas?
[00:20] <favro> xXxREDxBULLxXx: how did you install it?
[00:21] <xXxREDxBULLxXx> deb
[00:22] <favro> !find CRRCSim
[00:22] <xXxREDxBULLxXx> its some stupid air plane sim
[00:23] <zoredache> did you install it with apt, dpkg, or what?
[00:23] <favro> k - I never use debs - does sudo apt-get remove do anything
[00:23] <excalibas> hello, how can i use my wifi for internet and cable for networking? (at the same time)  can someone direct me for some help on this please?
[00:23] <xXxREDxBULLxXx> favro didn't work
[00:23] <xXxREDxBULLxXx> I think its called gdebi
[00:23] <xXxREDxBULLxXx> I downloaded it from www.getdeb.net
[00:24] <zoredache> try 'sudo dpkg -P crrcsim' perhaps
[00:25] <xXxREDxBULLxXx> <3 thank you
[00:36] <excalibas> sould i use firestarter? im a bit lost, please help
[00:38] <cody-somerville> excalibas, what are you trying to do?
[00:39] <excalibas> cody-somerville: i have internet with my wireless connection (wlan0) i want to connect to my wired connection (eth0) at the same time.
[00:40]  * cody-somerville backs away
[00:44] <favro> excalibas: there is a chat channel for network stuff that might be better for that question - #network
[00:44] <zoredache> excalibas: what you are asking for is a fairly complex configuration.  It is probably possible, but it is not easy.  The question really isn't xubuntu specific.  The networking components should be the same for almomst any debian/ubuntu based distro.  You might want to look for a channel like ubuntu server
[00:46] <favro> excalibas: sorry I was wrong about the channel :)
[00:46] <excalibas> ok, thanks i though it would be a simple thing to do ill try to read some more. thanks
[00:49] <favro> excalibas: the channel is #networking
[00:49] <favro> ##networking
[02:17] <zenstone> howdy
[02:19] <favro> !hi
[02:24] <zenstone> i have this problem with my hardy... installed it on a no-name laptop and x seems to go screwy... the screen is bigger than the actual display, cant scroll it.. and randonly everything goes white and i have to drag a window around like a paint brush to bring stuff back to view...
[02:25] <zenstone> that makes no sense.. hah.. hrm..
[02:26] <favro> zenstone: sounds like you need to set up the vid card driver
[02:27] <zenstone> how is that done ?
[02:27] <favro> lspci | grep VGA  in a terminal will let you know which card you have
[02:28] <zenstone> ok.. im not on the machine sadly.. no net at home so im at a public library...
[02:29] <zenstone> what next..
[02:30] <zenstone> im hoping theres a simple vesa server
[02:30] <favro> hmm - the only way I know in hardy is to edit the xorg.conf file and add some resolution stuff - I'll paste a basic one you can copy
[02:30] <favro> !paste
[02:32] <zenstone> hrm
[02:32] <zenstone> is there any documentation on this? list of servers to play with ?
[02:33] <favro> http://paste.ubuntu.com/40538/ - it'll get you started
[02:34] <favro> then gksu mousepad /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:34] <zenstone> nice.. ok, cool...
[02:34] <favro> zenstone: if you new the h/ware you could google for what others use
[02:35] <zenstone> i wish i knew the brand of the laptop..
[02:35] <zenstone> yeah..
[02:35] <favro> lspci and lshw will give you the details
[02:35] <zenstone> sweet
[02:35] <zenstone> thank you.. :)
[02:36] <favro> np :)
[02:36] <zenstone> anyluck setting up bootable thumb drives ?
[02:36] <favro> pendrivelinux.com is good for that
[02:37] <favro> lots of howtos
[02:37] <shadowhywind> hay all, just installed and wondering I have a font that i want to use and don't know where to install it to. would be be .fonts in the home user?
[02:37] <zenstone> yeah, im trying to follow those, but i dont have net access and i need mtools and syslinux, seems like a i need to get a lot of dependencies
[02:37] <favro> !fonts
[02:38] <shadowhywind> thanks, didn't know if it would be the same from ubuntu/kubuntu
[02:39] <favro> shadowhywind: they work the same - the desktop environment and some apps are the diff
[02:39] <shadowhywind> ah
[02:40] <shadowhywind> also in kubuntu i used to use kedit a lot, is there a xedit? (hehe)
[02:40] <favro> zenstone: using linux pretty much needs an internet connection - or get a dvd of a distro which'll come with more apps available
[02:40] <favro> shadowhywind: mousepad in xubuntu
[02:40] <shadowhywind> ok thanks a ton
[02:41] <favro> np :0
[02:41] <favro> :) even
[03:24] <Guest24487> has anybody else has any problems getting eee pc 900's audio workiing?  I changed the 'alsa-base' as it shows in every forum.  Thanks.
[03:27] <Guest24487> anyone?
[03:30] <favro> try in #eeepc :0
[03:30] <favro> :)
[03:30] <Guest24487> thank you :)
[04:35] <victorsouza> hello, im a computer engineer student and Im doing a big tutorial and  basic introduction to Xubuntu to the  users that are more familiar with windows but are curious to try Xubuntu. This is a 35 pages final paper for my class but I would like to support Xubuntu with this documentation?
[04:35] <victorsouza> I think its a pretty good basic tutorial and information for the windows users.
[04:41] <PorkSod1> oh man I thought I was a gonner for sure
[04:42] <PorkSod1> peace and quiet room love it
[04:43] <PorkSod1> and I am talking to myself not good
[04:45] <PorkSod1> well I guess I deserved a kick in the butt out of ubuntu
[04:45] <PorkSod1> the channel that is
[04:45] <PorkSod1> anyone ever been banned from a channel
[04:46] <Odd-rationale> i have never been kicked from a channel :)
[04:46] <PorkSod1> yeah looks like I'm the only loser
[04:47] <PorkSod1> I was trying to be a ass but I have a short fuse and sometimes when someone says something that gets under my skin I will blow fire
[04:47] <PorkSod1> not trying to be a ass
[04:49] <Odd-rationale> hey, it's only the internet... no need to get heat up about anything...
[04:50] <PorkSod1> yeah just when people say stuff like this is the last time I tell arrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr makes me tick off  theres a better way to say something so I just let it out
[04:51] <PorkSod1> all I wanted to know was how to search for someone that comes on ubuntu from time to time and then I get a vague answer like go to freenode channel
[04:53] <PorkSod1> This person I was looking for was helping me out with linux and the last thing I need is someone to give me a answer like that because linux has been frustrating to me and the modem setup was a nightmare the first time around
[04:55] <PorkSod1> but does anyone know how long it takes to get the latest version of xubuntu
[05:03] <Odd-rationale> PorkSod1: by latest, you mean the 8.10 alphas? or the latest stable 8.04 LTS ?
[05:03] <PorkSod1> 8.04 lts
[05:04] <PorkSod1> Brainteaser time how can I upgrade Ubuntu 6.06 to xubunu 8.04 lts without the torrent
[05:17] <xXxREDxBULLxXx> is there anyway I can get a uptime monitor, I like the one in the panel, but then it doesn't fit correctly
[06:05] <aschmidt> ..hi.
[06:06]  * aschmidt is in need of assistance with regard to wireless networking
[06:18] <favro> xXxREDxBULLxXx: I use conky for that
[07:26] <toki_> hey guys ive been trying to install ubuntu on a P3 866mhz/128mb, the 7.04 and 8.04 standard cds hang after after the menu, so im to a xubuntu 7.04 alternate cd now, so what should i add to the boot options other than noacpi?
[07:28] <favro> toki_: I didn't need any boot options for a similar system
[07:29] <toki_> its a laptop, does that make a difference
[07:30] <favro> well it might - noapic nolapic seems the best boot options for older lappies :)
[07:31] <toki_> both of those? and is that an "L" in nolapic
[07:31] <favro> yes and yes
[07:32] <toki_> thanks :) lets see where this goes........
[07:32] <favro> it was the amount of mem you have that was the issue with the live cd imo
[07:34] <toki_> i agree
[07:34] <toki_> i thought it was worth a shot though
[07:35] <favro> hehe
[07:44] <toki_> so i already have a dual boot between backtrack and win2k with lilo as the boot loader, what is this xubuntu installer going to do with that? im open for either adding an entry in lilo, but if xubuntu can install grub and autodetect the others, id like that.
[07:45] <favro> it should find other os's ok
[07:45] <toki_> good
[07:46] <toki_> do i need to modify the mount point / mount options / bootable options for its new partition?
[07:47] <favro> did you select manual or auto partitioning?
[07:48] <favro> for manual you need to select the mount points
[07:49] <wols_> toki_: 2 linux distros can be a hassle with conflicting bootloaders
[07:50] <wols_> which one do you want to keep? or maybe do a cascaded boot menu?
[07:50] <wols_> e.g. you could install grub to your partition only not the MBR
[07:54] <toki_> i selected manual partitioning, i already have a 1gb swap partition (they can share it right?), and about the boot loaders, i dont care if it overwrites the old one (on mbr) if it boots to the others
[07:54] <toki_> if its easier to change the splash menu, ill go with grub
[07:55] <toki_> so what mount point do i go for, root or what?
[07:55] <favro> toki_: you need to have a / mount point
[07:56] <favro> sharing swap is ok
[08:23] <toki_> still installing...... how much hdd space does a typical installation take?
[08:24] <favro> about 2G for /
[08:25] <toki_> sweet, it will be in the last 4G chunk of free space on this 15G drive
[08:28] <toki_> dang this thing is brutal on the cd drive
[08:29] <favro> hehe - they do get a workout
[09:09] <AlexCONRAD> hi, I'm trying to install the nvidia drivers from the official site (nvidia.com), but it tells me I have to exit X server before installing. How can I do that ?
[09:09] <AlexCONRAD> I tried CTRL +ATL +F2
[09:10] <AlexCONRAD> but it seems that X is still running then
[09:12] <favro>  CTRL +ATL +F2 then sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[09:31] <wols_> AlexCONRAD: not supported will break your package management
[09:39] <bakadesu> hello guys
[09:47] <bakadesu> :(
[10:36] <AlexCONRAD> favro, wols_: actually I was able to make the envy drivers work as I wanted. I'm trying to automate the installation of my setup. But envy is pretty GUI. How can I automate the install of the envy drivers with the nvidia ?
[10:36] <AlexCONRAD> envy seems to call a subscript to install the nvidia drivers
[10:37] <AlexCONRAD> any idea what that script is and how to run it without having the Envy GUI menu installed ?
[10:42] <favro> I've never bothered with envy - sorry :)
[10:42] <favro> !nvidia
[11:19] <bakalokaloka> hello
[11:19] <AlexCONRAD> hi
[11:20] <bakalokaloka> i wonder if
[11:20] <bakalokaloka> is possible to use the drawer function of gnome
[11:20] <bakalokaloka> is there an alternative for xfce?
[11:20] <bakalokaloka> to add a drawer to the panel?
[11:21] <bakalokaloka> and the add programs launchers to the drawer.. cause i use to do that in gnome
[11:23] <favro> bakalokaloka: if you make a launcher in the left panel it can open as many apps as you want - there will be an arrow at the side if there is more than one app to launch
[11:27] <bakalokaloka> thanks i will try
[11:28] <bakalokaloka> btw
[11:28] <bakalokaloka> i cant found mercury messenger
[11:28] <bakalokaloka> on synaptic
[11:29] <bakalokaloka> i wonder why
[11:29] <favro> !find mercury
[11:29] <favro> !info mercury
[11:29] <bakalokaloka> not that one
[11:29] <bakalokaloka> lol
[11:30] <favro> hehe - what does mercury do?
[11:30] <bakalokaloka> mercury messenger
[11:30] <bakalokaloka> i like it better than amsn
[11:30] <favro> irc client is it?
[11:30] <bakalokaloka> i use to have it when i had ubuntu
[11:30] <bakalokaloka> no
[11:30] <bakalokaloka> msn
[11:30] <bakalokaloka> yahoo
[11:30] <bakalokaloka> etc
[11:31] <favro> if it is available in ubuntu it is available in xubuntu
[11:34] <bakalokaloka> im looking
[11:34] <bakalokaloka> btw wow.. i take out the option for
[11:34] <favro> bakalokaloka: http://mercury.im/ - has a deb for it
[11:34] <bakalokaloka> use hinting in the user interface preferences
[11:34] <bakalokaloka> the image quality improve a lot
[11:34] <bakalokaloka> seems that option is for older monitors
[11:35] <bakalokaloka> thanks favro
[11:35] <favro> np :)
[11:35] <favro> bakalokaloka: use gdebi to install it
[11:35] <favro> !gdebi
[11:37] <bakalokaloka> does it come with with xubuntu by default?
[11:37] <bakalokaloka> or i need to install gdebi
[11:39] <favro> I never use it and am not on a xubuntu box atm...
[11:39] <favro> in terminal type   gdebi   and see :)
[11:39] <bakalokaloka> yeah
[11:39] <bakalokaloka> it type gdebi-gtk
[11:40] <bakalokaloka> it work
[11:41] <bakalokaloka> hmm but its all blank
[11:41] <bakalokaloka> i cant do anything
[11:42] <favro> ?
[11:43] <bakalokaloka> gdebi is not workign for me
[11:43] <bakalokaloka> all oprtions are off
[11:43] <bakalokaloka> options
[11:44] <bakalokaloka> i only can select file > open and quit
[11:44] <bakalokaloka> and help > about
[11:44] <bakalokaloka> thats it
[11:47] <bakalokaloka> ok
[11:47] <bakalokaloka> i get it now
[11:47] <bakalokaloka> how this works
[11:47] <bakalokaloka> thanks
[11:48] <favro> if you started it from terminal when you close it there might be error messages to give a clue
[11:48] <bakalokaloka> yeah
[11:48] <favro> yah :)
[11:48] <bakalokaloka> its unpacking mercury messenger now
[11:48] <bakalokaloka> its kind of slow but seems to be working
[11:51] <bakalokaloka> hmmm
[11:51] <bakalokaloka> it was supposed installed
[11:51] <bakalokaloka> i cant found it
[11:51] <bakalokaloka> now
[11:51] <hajhouse> j #R
[11:52] <favro> try sudo update-menus  then look again
[11:52] <toki_> whats the ubuntu equivilaint of fedora's yum?
[11:53] <favro> apt
[11:53] <favro> !apt
[11:53] <favro> toki_: ^^
[11:53] <toki_> right on, thanks guys
[11:54] <bakalokaloka> favro
[11:54] <bakalokaloka> what command is not working
[11:54] <bakalokaloka> that*
[11:54] <bakalokaloka> update-menus
[11:55] <favro> bakalokaloka: in terminal type   mercury   then hit the tab button
[12:20] <mespejel_> hello again
[12:21] <mespejel_> i know whats the problem with mercury
[12:21] <mespejel_> seems i need java sun version not java open source version
[12:21] <mespejel_> i have gnu version
[12:21] <mespejel_> i need java version
[12:21] <favro> !java
[12:22] <favro> 2nd one I think
[12:24] <wols_> !java
[12:24] <favro> hehe
[12:24] <mespejel_> yeah
[12:24] <mespejel_> it was
[12:25] <mespejel_> btw do i need gnu java
[12:25] <mespejel_> or i can just remove it now
[12:25] <mespejel_> if i have the sun version now
[12:25] <mespejel_> i dont need for any other version.. or do it need?
[12:25] <favro> it won't take must space
[12:26] <mespejel_> ok
[12:26] <mespejel_> but i mean i dont need gnu anymore
[12:26] <mespejel_> or gnu can run some stuff that sun version doesnt?
[12:26] <mespejel_> doesnt*
[12:27] <favro> I wouldn't know...
[12:32] <mespejel_> any tip
[12:32] <mespejel_> where can i get the lastest CVS of the libdc1394 library
[12:34] <favro> that'll be at bit of time with google...:)
[12:37] <mespejel_> i found it
[12:37] <mespejel_> from may 8 2008
[12:37] <mespejel_> was the last one
[12:38] <mespejel_> lets see if it supports my fireware webcam
[12:52] <noob369> Hello everybody I need immediate help about Xubuntu on eeePc: can't use the efault wireless card of Atheros, actually using an external usb device but not working properly. PLEASE ANYBODY HELP!!
[12:52] <vinnl> noob369, have you looked on the Eee wiki?
[12:53] <favro> there is  #eeepc
[13:04] <mespejel_> ahhh i cant install
[13:04] <mespejel_> libdc
[13:05] <mespejel_> i alrady inside the folder.. cd libdc1394-2.0.0
[13:05] <mespejel_> i found the install file
[13:05] <mespejel_> is install-sh
[13:05] <mespejel_> im trying sudo ./install-sh
[13:06] <favro> is there a readme file?
[13:06] <mespejel_> and is not working.. i get an error that no input file specified
[13:07] <mespejel_> yeah
[13:07] <mespejel_> does commands do not work
[13:07] <mespejel_> the ./configure one did work
[13:07] <mespejel_> but not make
[13:07] <mespejel_> even less make install
[13:08] <favro> do you have build-essential installed?
[13:08] <mespejel_> yeah
[13:08] <favro> hmm - can you paste the readme?
[13:08] <favro> !paste
[13:09] <BlueRider> hello Xubuntu fellows
[13:09] <favro> !hi
[13:10] <BlueRider> ^_^
[13:10] <mespejel_> yeah favro i think i know my mistake
[13:10] <mespejel_> i need to do a system wire installation
[13:10] <mespejel_> and compile and install libdc from a svn source
[13:25] <mespejel_> ahh
[13:25] <mespejel_> i give up
[13:25] <mespejel_> i cannot install it :(
[13:26] <favro> you gave it a good shot :)
[13:31] <mespejel_> the readme is wrong
[13:31] <mespejel_> and the install manual as well im doing exactly what they want
[13:31] <mespejel_> to cd the directory then to ./configure
[13:31] <mespejel_> then make to compile the package
[13:32] <mespejel_> and when i type make.. i get this error: make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
[13:34] <favro> mespejel_: you're not in the right dir from that error?
[13:36] <mespejel_> im in the rigth dir
[13:36] <mespejel_> thats the only one starting with libdc
[13:37] <mespejel_> cant be any other
[13:38] <mespejel_> mespejel@mespejel-laptop:~/libdc1394-2.0.2$
[13:38] <mespejel_> is the correct dir
[13:39] <favro> mespejel_: there might be a dir in there you need to be in  - I'm far away and can't see from here :)
[13:40] <mespejel_> well there is just the original one which is tar.gz ....
[13:40] <mespejel_> they want me to go to that one?
[13:40] <mespejel_> cause i did unpack does files
[13:41] <favro> it won't be the tar.gz
[13:41] <mespejel_> well there is no other
[13:41] <favro> can you paste the output of   ls   ?
[13:41] <favro> !paste
[13:42] <mespejel_> no one is here let me copy paste
[13:42] <mespejel_> is not that much
[13:42] <mespejel_> commands         libdc1394-2.0.2.tar.gz                 vmware-tools-distrib
[13:42] <mespejel_> Desktop          open-vm-tools-2008.04.14-87182
[13:42] <mespejel_> libdc1394-2.0.2  open-vm-tools-2008.04.14-87182.tar.gz
[13:43] <mespejel_> libdc1394-2.0.2
[13:43] <mespejel_> is the one im using
[13:44] <mespejel_> cd libdc1394-2.0.2/
[13:44] <favro> mespejel_: the dir you need will have file named configure in it - you  are not in that dir
[13:44] <mespejel_> im inside
[13:44] <mespejel_> i even try .configure && make
[13:44] <mespejel_> but didnt work
[13:45] <favro> cd ./libdc1394-2.0.2
[13:45] <favro> ./configure && make
[13:46] <mespejel_> ok
[13:47] <mespejel_> now is the turn for make install
[13:47] <mespejel_> i hope it works but i dont think so
[13:47] <mespejel_> noup
[13:47] <favro> sudo make install pal :)
[13:47] <mespejel_> yes  i know
[13:48] <mespejel_> make: *** No rule to make target `install'.  Stop.
[13:48] <favro> did the make work ?
[13:48] <mespejel_> same thing again
[13:48] <mespejel_> package is not working i guess
[13:49] <mespejel_> i will try to install the old version
[13:49] <mespejel_> my webcam is old so
[13:49] <mespejel_> i dont need the new one i guess
[13:50] <favro> bummer
[13:50] <mespejel_> lol
[13:51] <mespejel_> i have a final exam in a couple of hours
[13:51] <mespejel_> i dont even know why im doing this
[13:51] <mespejel_> part of my adhd, shit
[13:51] <mespejel_> now i cant stop until my webcam start working
[13:51] <favro> always sleep well before exams! hehe
[13:51] <mespejel_> i have my adderall
[13:51] <favro> !webcam
[13:51] <mespejel_> no need to sleep
[13:51] <mespejel_> lol
[13:57] <mespejel_> same thing
[13:57] <mespejel_> with the old version
[13:57] <mespejel_> i dont get it!
[13:57] <mespejel_> why aahhh
[13:57] <favro> !compile
[14:02] <mespejel_> brb
[14:13] <needhelp89> ANY idea about Why is my usb wifi device on eeepc getting too hot and stop workin'??
[14:15] <favro> needhelp89: try in #eeepc :)
[15:30] <RakZer0> Ok, does anyone know what became of repo 'ps3pf-utils'?
[15:32] <cody-somerville> of the repo?
[15:32] <cody-somerville> Isn't that a package?
[15:32] <favro> !find ps3pf-utils
[15:33] <RakZer0> sry, pkg not repo
[15:33] <RakZer0> im in xubuntu (specifically for ps3), and typing ps3videomode (to set my videomode) returns:
[15:34] <RakZer0> The program 'ps3videomode' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[15:34] <RakZer0> sudo apt-get install ps3pf-utils
[15:34] <RakZer0> following instr. as described in post here: http://psubuntu.com/wiki/SetupMonitor
[15:35] <favro> it must of been dropped for hardy - it is listed for gutsy
[15:35] <RakZer0> this is 7.10
[15:37] <favro> http://packages.ubuntu.com/fi/gutsy/ps3pf-utils
[15:42] <RakZer0> I get error dependancy libc6 is not satisfied, yet I tried to inst before I even ran it and it says libc6 is current
[15:42] <favro> !find libc6
[15:44] <RakZer0> well, ok...libc6 on my system is outdated..
[15:45] <favro> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[15:45] <RakZer0> no wonder, forgot to reload uponf fresh install :-!
[15:45] <favro> hehe
[15:45] <RakZer0> right.. :P
[15:46] <RakZer0> sudo apt-get hot-support-love
[15:46] <favro> lol
[15:47] <RakZer0> whaddya know, located every ps pkg
[15:49] <favro> it's working out?
[15:49] <RakZer0> seems to be, we'll see in a second..
[15:49] <RakZer0> the next steap after this is:
[15:49] <favro> xubuntu ftw! hehe
[15:50] <RakZer0> http://psubuntu.com/wiki/Setup
[15:50] <RakZer0> yes indeed, xubuntu is my fav..
[15:52] <favro> you'll be busy for a while :)
[15:52] <favro> any more hassles feel free to ask here :)
[15:53] <vinnl> Xubuntu Community ftw :)
[15:53] <favro> +1
[15:56] <RakZer0> thanks favro
[15:56] <favro> my pleasure RakZer0
[15:57] <RakZer0> :-D
[15:57] <RakZer0> sudo etc/init.d/gdm stop  ..is the syntax right to stop gdm?
[15:58] <vinnl> /etc/init.d/gdm I guess
[15:58] <favro> yep[
[15:58] <favro> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[15:58] <RakZer0> ah of course..
[16:01] <RakZer0> finally, no more 400x300 resolution :P
[16:01] <RakZer0> though Im not sure, was linux made for 1080p?
[16:02] <favro> depends on your vid card
[16:02] <favro> linux isn't the bottleneck there  - the vid card drivers are afaik
[16:03] <RakZer0> indeed..
[16:03] <RakZer0> not sure on gpu usability on a ps3 yet..last I heard was iffy
[16:03] <RakZer0> its a modified nvidia ~7950 gpu
[16:04] <favro> the nv driver will get you 2d - on a ps I wouldn't be sure but
[16:05] <favro> !nvidia
[16:06] <RakZer0> well..remember, its a nvidia gpu...modified to work with a PowerPC..
[16:06] <RakZer0> oh crap...is this site mirrored anywhere? http://psubuntu.com/wiki/SetupPSUbuntu
[16:08] <RakZer0> ok back up...
[16:08] <RakZer0> Im guessing no one else in here has attempted this?
[16:08] <favro> might be time to find a ps support channel - I'll have a quick google :)
[16:14] <favro> my google skills fell short here.. :(
[16:15] <RakZer0> !find rpm2cpio
[16:15] <RakZer0> favro: yeah...try #ps3 on freenode here ;)
[16:16] <RakZer0> it's 'official'...officially empty
[16:16] <favro> !info rpm2cpio
[16:17] <RakZer0> says its a redhat pkg?
[16:17] <RakZer0> http://psubuntu.com/wiki/Setup
[16:17] <RakZer0> this claims its an ubuntu pkg..
[16:17] <favro> !alien
[16:17] <RakZer0> so, go alien, to rpm, to sprm2cpio?
[16:18] <favro> err - not using my name as a recomendation fot it ...
[16:18] <RakZer0> well...the kernel version I am on doesnt detect my wifi, and this tut says this is the way to do it
[16:18] <favro> go with the tute then
[16:19] <RakZer0> trying to update the kernel..
[16:45] <RakZer0> bb
[16:59] <RakZer0> what is the path of the dekstop? :/
[16:59] <RakZer0> pfft, nm
[17:00] <bytor4232> heh
[17:00] <bytor4232>  ~/Desktop
[17:00] <bytor4232> ;)
[17:12] <RakZer0> OK, take a look at this...http://psubuntu.com/wiki/Setup When I do command number 5, it says premature end of archive...any idea what I may be doing wrong?
[17:14] <s_Even> euhm...
[17:14] <s_Even> are you in the right directory?
[17:14] <RakZer0> you mean am I pointing it to the right dir? yes
[17:15] <RakZer0> when in doubt, drag and drop anyway :P
[17:15] <RakZer0> if im pointing to the wrong place it just returns file not found anyways.
[17:16] <s_Even> well... i don't have any idea at all...
[17:16] <s_Even> I'm really sorry...
[17:17] <favfro> what was the issue - I got disconnected...
[17:17] <RakZer0> oh
[17:17] <RakZer0> er
[17:18] <favfro> hehe
[17:18] <RakZer0> .http://psubuntu.com/wiki/Setup When I do command number 5, it says premature end of archive...any idea what I may be doing wrong?
[17:18] <zoredache> are you sure the file you downloaded was good?
[17:19] <favfro> +1 zoredache 's point
[17:20] <RakZer0> well, I tried it several times...
[17:20] <RakZer0> form 2 different machines..
[17:21] <zoredache> are there md5sums provided at the download site so you could verify?
[17:21] <favfro> or an alternate source?
[17:25] <favro>  /msg NickServ identify ere4si
[17:25] <RakZer0> 0-0
[17:25] <favro> hehe
[17:25] <zoredache> someone change his password for him..
[17:26] <zoredache> :p
[17:26] <RakZer0> ok..I think I got them extracted, but when I try to drag them to /boot nothing happens...
[17:26] <favro> who would think a soace would make a diff...
[17:26] <favro> :)
[17:26] <RakZer0> heh, apparently freenode..
[17:26] <favro> *space even
[17:30] <RakZer0> how do I manually copy files? (as in with admin priv :P)
[17:31] <favro> sudo cp -v /path/to/copy /path/to/copy/to
[17:31] <zoredache> sudo cp src dst
[17:32] <RakZer0> what is -v?
[17:32] <zoredache> verbose... it tells you what it is doing
[17:33] <RakZer0> and can I define multiple src?
[17:33] <RakZer0> oh
[17:33] <zoredache> sure sudo cp file1 file2 file3 dstdir
[17:33] <RakZer0> what if file 1 is a dir?
[17:33] <RakZer0> /dir/*.*?
[17:33] <RakZer0> hehe
[17:35] <zoredache> yes, you can use wildcards.  and if you need directories you may need a '-r'.
[17:35] <favro> cp -Rv   for copying dirs
[17:35] <RakZer0> heh
[17:35] <RakZer0> was he angry about the verbose echoing? :P
[17:36] <RakZer0> wb
[17:38] <favro> trying to change my password ;)
[17:40] <RakZer0> what does it mean when a file icon has a square with a white x in the center?
[17:41] <favro> it can't find an icon afaik
[17:42] <favro> sudo ap[t-get install human-theme
[17:42] <favro>  sudo apt-get install human-theme
[17:42] <favro> even...
[17:44] <RakZer0> http://psubuntu.com/wiki/Setup ok now back to this for a sec, step 7...
[17:44] <RakZer0> any idea wtf  The value "48124dc5-2c8f-43d0-a210-0b6549ffde56" have to be changed according to your PS3. ?
[17:45] <Ktron> Is XFCE resolution aware?
[17:46] <favro> RakZer0: I saw that earlier and wondered...
[17:47] <favro> Ktron: you need to set the vid card driver up
[17:47] <zoredache> RakZer0: it probably needs to be the UUID of your hard drive
[17:48] <favro> looks like a md5....?
[17:48] <Ktron> favro, So, GDM rendered correctly, and my mouse renders correctly, by XFCE is rendering two 'squished' and messed up copies of the Desktop side by side
[17:48] <zoredache> no... it is an rfc4122 uuid
[17:48] <Ktron> s/XFCE is rendering/er, XFCE is rendered as/
[17:48] <Ktron> s/by/but/
[17:49] <favro> Ktron: can  you paste your xorg.conf?
[17:49] <favro> !paste
[17:49] <zoredache> a command like 'sudo vol_id /dev/sda1' would tell you the uuid
[17:49] <favro> RakZer0: ^^
[17:49] <Ktron> http://ktron.pastecode.com/?show=d424279ee
[17:51] <Ktron> The screen is loosely checkboarded
[17:51] <Ktron> I managed to get into Display Preferences by using my other xubuntu machine as reference and choose a different resolution, but its still wrong
[17:51] <favro> Ktron: if you only have one monitor that is wrong - try ati-config again
[17:53] <RakZer0> zoredache: says error open vol...
[17:53] <zoredache> you would need to replace the 'sda1' with whatever root is
[17:54] <Ktron> favro, I reran aticonfig --initial, same results... But, I think I may have found the issue
[17:54] <Ktron> there's no reason to be running XGL anymore, right?
[17:54] <zoredache> it could be hda1, it could be other things... running 'df' or 'mount' might help you figureo out the device name for '/'
[17:54] <RakZer0> /dev/disk/by-uuid has something interesting...
[17:54] <Ktron> favro, I'm wondering if the XGL server and the X server are both being seen by something and its trying to render to both the same video
[17:55] <favro> Ktron: http://paste.ubuntu.com/40702/ - my xorg for single fglrx config
[17:56] <Ktron> favro, disabling xgl fixes it, and I *think* its doing what it should
[17:56] <Ktron> favro, are you using xserver-xgl?
[17:56] <favro> Ktron: from what I've read you need to only install xgl after the fglrx driver - why??I dunno
[17:57] <Ktron> favro, so I should uninstall xgl for now
[17:57] <Ktron> and maybe reinstall
[17:57] <Ktron> favro, alright, I can try that
[17:57] <favro> yep
[17:59] <favro> Ktron: uninstall xgl - reboot and reinstall if you want - I get no benefit from it tho...
[17:59] <RakZer0> Im wondering with partition UUID it is wanting? its a line to declare the root UUID
[17:59] <RakZer0> root=UUID=48124dc5-2c8f-43d0-a210-0b6549ffde56 quiet splash
[17:59] <Ktron> favro, yeah, I think it might be unnecessary after the last set of major Xorg updates
[17:59] <zoredache> it wants the UUID of the 'root' partition
[17:59] <RakZer0> so if I have 3 partitions, first one boot, second swap, third etx3 all else...which is root?
[17:59] <Ktron> favro, I just want to try to get compiz-fusion up and running again
[17:59] <RakZer0> oh duh
[17:59] <RakZer0> /
[17:59] <RakZer0> /
[18:00] <Ktron> and I couldn't for a while because I couldn't seem to get the ati drivers running right, I think I may have hit pay dirt today
[18:00] <RakZer0> ffr, type blkid in prompt
[18:00] <favro> Ktron:  the fglrx driver from the ubuntu packages will do that
[18:01] <Ktron> favro, no, it wouldn't with my system-- aticonfig would core dump when I tried to enable fglrx
[18:03] <favro> Ktron: did you add fglrx to /etc/modules?
[18:03] <Ktron> I have not
[18:03] <Ktron> favro, it shows up in lsmod|grep fglrx though
[18:04] <favro> you need to for it to be loaded and used...
[18:07] <Ktron> favro, nice, all is working :)
[18:07] <favro> yah!
[18:07] <RakZer0> OK, it only took 3 hours, but with my new conf written, im going ot try it out :P
[18:08] <favro> siberian sized pinch of salt for RakZer0
[18:08] <favro> hehe :)
[18:08] <favro> well done
[18:09] <RakZer0> now im updating...
[18:09] <zoredache> do you have a backup boot method, just in case something bad happens?
[18:09] <RakZer0> hopefully when I reboot I will have wifi :P
[18:09] <RakZer0> yeah, its setup so you I have to type somehting to get into gnome
[18:09] <RakZer0> and i have 3 options...
[18:10] <RakZer0> linux, old, and now test :P
[18:10] <RakZer0> im on the ps3 right now
[18:11] <RakZer0> ok bb, going to boot it
[18:11] <RakZer0> lol, siberian sized...<3 it
[18:15] <RakZer0> didn't work :P but I'm close now. I just need to cp a diff file...
[18:15] <RakZer0> afk break
[18:18] <Ben_Cs> BTW guys, do i remember correct that debian has only open software in repos.   ?
[18:19] <zoredache> that is true if you are talking about 'main'
[18:20] <favro> Ben_Cs: afaik the deian repos have old proven software - that's why *buntus are popular - more up to date
[18:20] <favro> time for a nw keyboard...
[18:21] <Ben_Cs> favro: so not only open source then?
[18:21] <favro> Ben_Cs: only open source that is proven reliable for years afaik...
[18:22] <Ben_Cs> ok thanks
[18:22] <favro> Ben_Cs: they have unstable releases too
[18:22] <Ben_Cs> so ubuntu has it's own soft then
[18:23] <vinnl> No
[18:23] <vinnl> Ubuntu is based on Debian unstable
[18:23] <favro> I use *buntus for the packages
[18:23] <favro> vinnl: it is deeper then that
[18:24] <vinnl> Elaborate?
[18:25] <Ben_Cs> ok
[18:28] <zoredache> Ben_Cs: was there more do your question?  For the official answer about Debian see chapter 2 of the Debian policy manual http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html
[18:28] <favro> vinnl: debian unstable is the starting point roughly speaking - it may have evolved past that now
[18:28] <vinnl> Ah true
[18:28] <favro> !motu
[18:28] <Ben_Cs> ok
[18:29] <RakZer0> Opera browser for linux FTW.
[18:29] <zoredache> favro: resyncs to the debian source happen frequently and patches are submitted back to Debian and upstream
[18:29] <vinnl> At the beginning of each six-month cycle Ubuntu is based off Debian unstable (i.e. all Debian unstable's packages are copied over to Ubuntu) as the starting point for the new version
[18:29] <favro> watch for zoredache he knows
[18:30] <favro> and vinnl too :)
[18:31] <vinnl> ^.^
[18:31] <zoredache> pfft... I just pretened to know things... Sometimes I get lucky and I am acutally right
[18:32] <favro> hehe - you have rarely let me down - if at all :)
[18:32] <vinnl> zoredache, hush, don't spoil the secret ;-)
[18:33] <favro> haven't seen the sheep for a while...
[18:34] <favro> he was always a ready helping hand
[18:35] <vinnl> He's in this channel :)
[18:35] <favro> so he is..
[18:38] <RakZer0> Hey guys, I noticed that on step 8 here: http://psubuntu.com/wiki/Setup when I run 'sudo update-initramfs -k 2.6.24 -u' I get no such file or directory messages...(/lib/firmware/2.6.24: No such file or directory)
[18:38] <RakZer0> any cluesw what I might be missing?
[18:40] <favro> RakZer0: uname -a says what?
[18:40] <RakZer0> what?
[18:40] <RakZer0> j/k
[18:40] <RakZer0> Linux rakzer0 2.6.20-15-powerpc64-smp #3 SMP Sun Apr 15 06:52:37 UTC 2007 ppc64 GNU/Linux
[18:41] <RakZer0> (been up for a long time now...linux causes me to become very energized :D)
[18:41] <favro> there you go - you have a .20 kernel and it wants a .24 one
[18:42] <RakZer0> well, that's what I am trying to do...update the kernel..
[18:43] <favro> sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.24-19-generic I think
[18:44] <RakZer0> er, what's that command going to do
[18:45] <favro> give you the latest ubuntu kernel
[18:46] <favro> and let you do step 8
[18:46] <favro> needs a reboot after d/loading
[18:49] <RakZer0>  kernel-2.6.24-20080131.ppc64.rpm
[18:49] <RakZer0> thats what i am trying to change it to
[18:49] <RakZer0> the highest in the repo is 2.6.20...
[18:49] <RakZer0> 2-6-20-17
[18:50] <RakZer0> !find  kernel-2.6.24-20080131.ppc64.rpm
[18:51] <favro> RakZer0: I'm seeing rpm mentioned alot in an apt based distro support channel - you need another guide or debian based disto
[18:51] <RakZer0> this is the guide for xubuntu
[18:51] <favro> *distro
[18:51] <RakZer0> to get wifi working
[18:51] <favro> not with rpm tho
[18:51] <favro> !rpm
[18:52] <favro> !wifi
[18:52] <favro> !buggerme
[18:53] <zoredache> you won't find much help there for ps3...  It is an odd-duck that needs a fair ammount of hacks to get going
[18:53] <RakZer0> yeah...less than before...I mean, it works fine, im online, can run anyhting...just the wifi needs a little work..
[18:53] <RakZer0> bb, going to reboot again
[18:54] <Ben_Cs> Hey guys, anyone using Debian with xfce, in adition to xubuntu?
[18:55] <zoredache> you mean on the same machine?
[18:55] <zoredache> I have Debian with xfce installed on one of my computers..
[18:55] <zoredache> but I use xubuntu on my work computer and my laptop
[18:57] <favro> Ben_Cs: if you have an issue ask your question - we don't take large chunks if we bite :)
[18:58] <Ben_Cs> zoredache: i'm installing debian with xfce on a virtual machine. was wondering if there's a reason to use debian when we have ubuntu?
[18:58] <favro> I use *buntus for the packaging :)
[18:59] <favro> more up to date
[19:00] <vinnl> favro, that depends, Debian unstable can have more up-to-date packages than the latest Ubuntu release :)
[19:00] <zoredache> I have Debian on the box because it is primarily my home server...  It releases slower.  Plus I support Debian boxes at work so having a Debian box at home is occasionally useful
[19:00] <vinnl> Which might be a reason to use Debian (unstable): a rolling release system
[19:00] <vinnl> ...and stable because of the slower releases :)
[19:00] <zoredache> but as a desktop user I prefer xubuntu over Debian
[19:02] <favro> I keep turning up here and learn new things daily :)
[19:02] <cody-somerville> #xubuntu is a great place to be! :]
[19:02] <vinnl> It's the reincarnation of the garden of Eden! :P
[19:03] <cody-somerville> without the evil
[19:03] <vinnl> If you want evil, visit ##windows ;-)
[19:03] <vinnl> (I know, I know, stupid joke)
[19:04] <Ben_Cs> lol
[19:04] <favro> I want an apple
[19:04] <vinnl> xD
[19:05] <vinnl> If you put Xubuntu on it, fine :P
[19:07] <RakZer0> closer still...
[19:07] <RakZer0> :P
[19:08] <favro> RakZer0: one step at a time heh ;)
[19:10] <RakZer0> indeed...all is happy
[19:11] <RakZer0> i'm far from phazed..
[19:11] <favro> apple, snake, garden of eden...
[19:12] <RakZer0> do you use opera browser?
[19:12] <favro> nope - not here
[19:13] <Ben_Cs> did anyone notice that Opera browser displays correctly more IE sites?
[19:13] <vinnl> Nope
[19:13] <vinnl> But then again, it's been a long time since I've seen a site that didn't display correctly
[19:13] <zoredache> I avoid IE only sites..
[19:14] <RakZer0> same. :P
[19:14] <vinnl> (Apart from those times I tried Dillo, of course :P)
[19:14] <RakZer0> imo, opera is the best most friendly and customizable browser EVER
[19:14] <RakZer0> even in windows platforms
[19:14] <vinnl> Most customizable?
[19:14] <vinnl> What's more customizable than open source? :P
[19:14] <RakZer0> heh
[19:15] <zoredache> vinnl: things that are easy for a non-programmer to customize.
[19:15] <vinnl> zoredache, yeah, I understood, was just being a smartass :P
[19:15] <zoredache> well... not more... but more in there opinion
[19:16] <RakZer0> what other browser gives you a ctrl+z option to reopen a window you accidentally closed, right where you left off, with all browing history of the window intact?
[19:16] <vinnl> RakZer0, Firefox uses Ctrl+Shift+T
[19:16] <vinnl> A real lifesaver :)
[19:17] <vinnl> Well, for tabs, that is
[19:17] <favro> what does a site look like that doesn't display correctly - never seen one
[19:17] <vinnl> It might be useful for windows too indeed, but then again: who uses Windows who'd also use that option? :)
[19:17] <RakZer0> since new opera...I haven't had a problem with any site...
[19:18] <RakZer0> from hotmail to kontraband, to whatever
[19:18] <vinnl> Good for you :)
[19:18] <RakZer0> firefox is slower :P
[19:18] <vinnl> Firefox 3 also?
[19:19] <RakZer0> ive used opera vs firefox on 3 different x86 machines, 2 different versions of windows, and now a ps3...
[19:19] <RakZer0> its faster on all counts..
[19:19] <RakZer0> Im just saying..use what you like
[19:19] <vinnl> Of course :)
[19:19] <RakZer0> but the more people who use opera the more dev it gets... :D
[19:20] <vinnl> Opera is Qt, Firefox integrates with my GTK theme :)
[19:20] <vinnl> RakZer0, how come?
[19:20] <favro> I like lynx
[19:20] <RakZer0> more input, feedback, deman, desire..
[19:20] <RakZer0> oh yeah lynx...who needs images
[19:20] <vinnl> You could also donate Opera software a huge sum of money so they can hire more developers ;-)
[19:21] <favro> who needs overheadfs...
[19:21] <RakZer0> hehe
[19:21] <RakZer0> I will gladly do that when it is pertinent
[19:21] <vinnl> :P
[19:21] <RakZer0> seriously.
[19:22] <vinnl> I'd rather pay a load of open source developers in that case :)
[19:22] <RakZer0> yeah..
[19:24] <RakZer0> good read.. http://www.infoworld.com/article/06/10/16/42OPopenent_1.html
[19:25] <Myrtti> I edited a .desktop in /usr/local/share/applications, how can I refresh the menu?
[19:25] <cody-somerville> Myrtti, update-desktop-database
[19:26] <vinnl> Or wait
[19:26] <Myrtti> (needed to add hostname and password to xfmpc shortcut)
[19:27] <vinnl> RakZer0, it's definitely cool that Opera provides a Linux version at all, and even cooler that it provides all those packages for different distros
[19:28] <Myrtti> *sigh* now the damned thing isn't there in the menu at all
[19:29] <favro> doesn't sudo update-menus work?
[19:29] <RakZer0> yeah beyond cool...and the voice controlled browsing is..like...stellar
[19:30] <RakZer0> it's all good
[19:30] <RakZer0> I wish I could get this up and running
[19:32] <RakZer0> haven't aske din a while... Anyone run xubuntu on ps3? :)
[19:37] <RakZer0> silly mammoth
[19:39] <favro> I like mammoth's...
[19:41] <RakZer0> who doesn't...
[19:42] <RakZer0> ok, so lets assume, I just want to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.24 ppc64...how would I just normally do that..
[19:44] <zoredache> If it wasn't already packaged I suspect I would download the source.  Copy the running config, then use make-kpkg to build a new kernel package.
[19:45] <RakZer0> any idea where to get it?
[19:46] <zoredache> what?  the source?  Kernel.org if you want a vanilla kernel.  The reposistories are good too
[19:46] <RakZer0> I'd like something more officially xubuntuish..
[19:46] <RakZer0> but looking through the repo's, I'm not finding it...
[19:47] <RakZer0> maybe I am just not sure what it's called
[19:47] <nikolam> hmm if yiu want to use supported distro then it it advisable to use kernel compiled for that distro..
[19:47] <RakZer0> I don't see it around kernel-image*
[19:47] <zoredache> look for 'linux-source'
[19:47] <nikolam> Maybe you could use newer version of distro you use that uses newer kernel?
[19:48] <cody-somerville> RakZer0, whats the output of uname -r ?
[19:48] <zoredache> RakZer0: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/l/linux/linux-source-2.6.24_2.6.24-16.30_all.deb
[19:48] <BlackTulipGirl> i have a question regarding downloading/installing xubuntu
[19:48] <cody-somerville> BlackTulipGirl, shoot
[19:49] <BlackTulipGirl> I tried to download xubuntu 3 times today and it stops at 75%
[19:49] <BlackTulipGirl> and from all different places
[19:49] <BlackTulipGirl> so what should I do?
[19:49] <zoredache> BlackTulipGirl: you might try downloading with bittorrent
[19:49] <BlackTulipGirl> ok
[19:50] <BlackTulipGirl> wonṫ it take longer then?
[19:50] <zoredache> it will pull from lots of places... It tends to get around flaking network connections better.
[19:50] <BlackTulipGirl> ok
[19:50] <zoredache> it may take longer...  But it is more likely to complete
[19:50] <BlackTulipGirl> i will try that
[19:51] <BlackTulipGirl> when i googled it, lots of ppl seem to be having that problem
[19:51] <BlackTulipGirl> when dwnloading the alternate
[19:51] <BlackTulipGirl> so i just wanted to make sure
[19:51] <zoredache> I generally always use rsync or bittorrent.
[19:51] <BlackTulipGirl> ok
[19:52] <BlackTulipGirl> I had the same problem when downloading kubuntu, but not with Symphony or Mandriva
[19:53] <RakZer0> cody-somerville: 2.6.20-15-powerpc64-smp
[19:53] <RakZer0> I guess I could just run sudo apt-get upgrade?
[19:54] <zoredache> you could try
[19:54] <cody-somerville> RakZer0, What is the output of cat /etc/lsb-release ?
[19:54] <BlackTulipGirl> bbl
[19:54] <BlackTulipGirl> thx for help
[19:54] <favro> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[19:55] <RakZer0> cody-somerville: http://pastebin.com/d66f494c8
[20:03] <cody-somerville> If you want .24 you'll want to upgrade to Hardy
[20:04] <nikolam> Hi
[20:04] <RakZer0> apt-get upgrade in process...
[20:04] <xXxREDxBULLxXx> my sound just randomly stopped working
[20:05] <nikolam> I am wondering.. does default xubuntu alternate cd opens serial port for connection during install?
[20:05] <xXxREDxBULLxXx> any ideas?
[20:05] <cody-somerville> xXxREDxBULLxXx, are the speakers plugged in? turned on? turned up?
[20:05] <xXxREDxBULLxXx> yep
[20:05] <cody-somerville> xXxREDxBULLxXx, Have you tried other applications? try rebooting?
[20:05] <cody-somerville> !sound | xXxREDxBULLxXx
[20:05] <RakZer0> service running?
[20:05] <xXxREDxBULLxXx> not a reboot yet
[20:05] <nikolam> like, I could connect to another machine with terminal with serial port and do installation without screen?
[20:06] <xXxREDxBULLxXx> what should I look for?
[20:06] <zoredache> nikolam: I don't think it does... but you could make a custom cd that did it... you would just need to adjust the isolinux.cfg
[20:06] <Ben_Cs> debian users here: does lenny going to have the current xfce version? (cause etch doesn't)
[20:10] <nikolam> zoredache, aah, do you know some floppy or cd-based small distro that opens serial by default. i need a quick fix for something, not temporary install, anyway
[20:11] <xXxREDxBULLxXx> thanks I think it's fixed now, mpg321 was running in the bg
[20:11] <cody-somerville> :]
[20:11] <zoredache> nikolam: if the keyboard works, you could just boot any cd, and type the right command
[20:14] <nikolam> zoredache, Hah, that is nice :) But I just need to see some output heh.
[20:16] <nikolam> ok, what should i put in isolinux.cfg ?
[20:18] <zoredache> sorry being distracted... I am saying if the cd boots, you  could say linux whatever=/dev/ttyS0
[20:19] <nikolam> console=ttyS0,19200n8 ?
[20:19] <zoredache> that looks right
[20:20] <zoredache> I was trying to find my notes from when I had to use get the results of a kernel dump...
[20:21] <zoredache> bleah... had to use serial console for finding a kernel bug
[20:22] <nikolam> Now I need to save It as new .iso
[20:23] <nikolam> I mounted Hardy i386 xubuntu alternate cd, maybe I should copy it to hd, change isolinux.cfg and save them as a new iso?
[20:24] <zoredache> you have to be careful about how you do your copy.  there are symlinks on the iso.
[20:25] <nikolam> I just hid the wall with it
[20:26] <nikolam> so, how to change tha iso? to treat it as the archive in file-roller or something?
[20:26] <zoredache> copy the contents of the iso to a folder using rsync or 'tar -c . | tar -C newfolder -x'
[20:27] <RakZer0> thanks for the suggestions guys ill give it one more go and be back much later
[20:27] <zoredache> update your copy... then rebuild with -  mkisofs -r -V 'Custom Ubuntu Install CD' -cache-inodes -l -o ../test.iso -no-emul-boot -J -b isolinux/isolinux.bin -boot-load-size 4 -boot-info-table -c isolinux/boot.cat .
[20:36] <geekthras> Somehow my desktop was changed to the default normal ubuntu desktop background, and none of my desktop files are showing up. What did I do wrong?
[20:47] <zoredache> geekthras: press alt-f2 and run 'xfdesktop'
[20:47] <geekthras> thanks, I wonder how that got killed
[21:36] <Klowner> anyone know if there's a deb of the modemlights panel plugin (xfce goodies) floating around somewhere?
[21:47] <Myrtti> I might have the checkinstall package on my hard drive, but I'd rather not spread it around
[21:47] <Myrtti> it wasn't that hard to compile myself though
[22:35] <Klowner> ah checkinstall, I forgot about that, I'll do that on another box and then copy the deb over
[22:35] <Klowner> thanks Myrtti
[22:36] <Myrtti> no probs
[23:01] <MoonStorm> hi.  normally i use kubunt, but recently had a machine go down so i put xubuntu on a 450mhz, 512mb, 4g hard drive, and it's been working well for me
[23:01] <MoonStorm> in fact, i'm liking xubuntu better every day that i use it
[23:01] <MoonStorm> one of the things i'd like to know, is how do i play m3p files?  in kubuntu it's amarok, in xubuntu it's ?
[23:01] <vinnl> Totem
[23:02] <vinnl> Also known as "Movie Player" :S
[23:02] <cody-somerville> You can install other music players if you'd like
[23:03] <vinnl> Of course
[23:04] <MoonStorm> actually, i am reviewing the *untu distros, so the defaults are what i'm looking for
[23:04] <vinnl> That's Totem, but you'll need to install the appropriate codecs before you can play them
[23:05] <vinnl> But of course, Totem can look them up for you when you request to play one, so :)
[23:05] <MoonStorm> for usability reviews
[23:05] <MoonStorm> yes, i noticed that.  that is a neat feature
[23:06] <MoonStorm> it's like magic
[23:06] <vinnl> Magic would be that it worked immediately :P
[23:06] <vinnl> Or even better: that everybody used Ogg :)
[23:47] <MoonStorm> so, i noticed that movie player has this window open with graphics.  does totem have a minimalist mode?
[23:48] <MoonStorm> it totem a xfce thingy, or something else?
[23:49] <TheSheep> MoonStorm: totem is gnome's default movie player too
[23:49] <MoonStorm> ah, ok
[23:49] <TheSheep> MoonStorm: xfce has xfmedia, but we had trouble with it before
[23:49] <MoonStorm> developed by totem or by gnome/xfce ?
[23:49] <TheSheep> xfmedia is developed by xfce and uses xine for playback
[23:49] <MoonStorm> it would be nice for an audio only view when playing audio
[23:49] <MoonStorm> for lower end machines
[23:50] <TheSheep> totem uses gstreamer
[23:50] <MoonStorm> i did turn off the gloom glooom
[23:50] <MoonStorm> ah, ok.  kaffiene uses xine
[23:50] <vinnl> I believe Cody was thinking about including an audio player
[23:50] <vinnl> /ping cody-somerville
[23:51] <TheSheep> MoonStorm: I doubt that this movie thingy takes up so much resources to display
[23:51] <TheSheep> vinnl: audacious or something else?
[23:51] <Myrtti> xfmedia was included once upon a time, IIRC
[23:51] <vinnl> IIRC he mentioned Audacious but it was just brainstorming
[23:51] <vinnl> Myrtti, correct
[23:51] <TheSheep> Myrtti: yes, first it was xfmedia, then totem but with xine backend, and finally totem with gstreamer
[23:52] <Myrtti> I feel so old...
[23:52] <Myrtti> have I been using Ubuntu *this* long?
[23:52]  * cody-somerville has to jet.
[23:52] <MoonStorm> http://www.leeshaharvey.com/music.html
[23:52] <TheSheep> Myrtti: here, I prepared a lime pit for you ;)
[23:53] <dpick> what does adding a list of backdrops do? Does it switch between on some interval?
[23:53] <TheSheep> dpick: it picks the next one every time you log in or you send it the USR1 signal
[23:53] <Myrtti> TheSheep: thanks
[23:53] <TheSheep> dpick: you can set up a cron job to send that signal on some interval
[23:53] <dpick> ah, thanks
[23:54] <TheSheep> Myrtti: at your service :)
[23:54] <Myrtti> oh and btw, xfmpc really needs love.
[23:54] <dpick> TheSheep: what command do i have to send to have it change?
[23:54] <TheSheep> Myrtti: I'm starting to think whether it makes sense
[23:54] <vinnl> Myrtti, have you checked out gmpc? It's very light-weight and has no GNOME dependencies :)
[23:54] <TheSheep> dpick: killall -USR1 xfdesktop
[23:54] <dpick> thanks
[23:55] <vinnl> xfdesktop -reload works too
[23:55] <TheSheep> vinnl: but that restarts the whole desktop
[23:55] <TheSheep> vinnl: less smooth
[23:55] <vinnl> Ah OK
[23:56] <Myrtti> vinnl: awwww I just compiled xfmpc with hard work (it really was!) today from svn and now you come up with a better one :-<
[23:56] <vinnl> ^.^
[23:56] <vinnl> And that author provides a PPA :)
[23:56] <vinnl> *the
[23:56] <TheSheep> vinnl: gimmix is pretty nice once you edit its .glade files and put it back to its original, old interface :)
[23:57] <TheSheep> I grew used to tabs while I was using Sonata
[23:57] <Myrtti> compiling xfmpc from the sources SSSSUUUUCKED. I had to get the ubuntu repo version to get a sane configure-file
[23:57] <vinnl> I think I know that but I suppose gmpc is more feature-rich
[23:57] <Myrtti> and automake configs
[23:57] <vinnl> I use three different clients :P
[23:57] <TheSheep> vinnl: it's too rich to my tastes
[23:58] <TheSheep> vinnl: mpc, gmpc and?
[23:58] <vinnl> The xfce panel plugin :)
[23:58] <vinnl> For when I want to click quickly
[23:58] <Myrtti> ncmpc > anything
[23:58] <vinnl> Or see what's currently playing
[23:58] <TheSheep> ah, I have keybindings for mpc for that
[23:58] <vinnl> Yeah me too for when I want to use the keyboard
[23:59] <Myrtti> that's a novel idea
[23:59] <TheSheep> .oO( I wonder if I could make keybindings for my game pad for controlling mpc... )
[23:59] <vinnl> Probably :)