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sosriqwehi, is there anybody having problem with mysql after yesterdays update?00:09
sosriqweis it only me having packege dependency problems?00:09
cyphasedoes anyone know if the latest builds of intrepid work on virtualbox?00:16
cyphaseif not, how are you running intrepid virtually?00:16
cjmy laptop (sony vaio vgn-cr520e) is not well supported by hardy00:28
cjhas there been much work done in adding new APCI and intel video card driver support?00:41
cyphaseoohhh, alpha 4 is downloading at 1.3MB/sec00:42
cjthat's fast enough :)00:42
cyphasenow it's only 700kb/sec00:43
matt__adept keeps crashing in ibex alpha4 anyone have a work around00:44
matt__using kubuntu00:45
bluesmokematt__: I guess let apport file a bug and hope for the best00:45
bluesmokeadept is also in alpha right now00:45
matt__yeah00:46
matt__well apt works fine from the cli00:47
matt__so im using it for the time being00:47
matt__atleast konversation works :p00:48
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cyphaseis anyone here running intrepid virtually?00:54
travist120Is anyone having problems with Firefox 3 page load times?00:55
RAOFI presume that you are :)00:56
cyphasetravist120: there are several pages online that tell you how to optimize firefox01:00
travist120oh I know01:08
travist120I have done that already01:08
travist120but it hangs up sometimes01:08
travist120and won't show the page until I refresh it01:09
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flaccidhey guys where abouts is the repos information required to install/upgrade intrepid?02:49
mneptokflaccid: upgrade *what* to Intrepid?02:52
flaccidhardy02:53
mneptoksudo do-release-upgrade -d02:54
flaccidreally, wow!02:55
virtualdor update-manager -d but that isn't fun when x crashes02:56
flaccidsorry i forgot to mention this is kubuntu hardy02:57
mneptoksudo do-release-upgrade -d02:58
flaccidokies thanks02:58
* mneptok bows02:58
* flaccid knights mneptok :p02:59
mneptoksudo do-steed-upgrade --percheron03:00
Darkrift2after going from 7.10 to 8.04 then to 8.10 my wifi stopped working somewhat (it worked on the first 2, but on 8.10 my network doesnt show in the list, but other farther wifi networks show up)04:07
Darkrift2any idea whats wrong?04:07
virtualdit didn't break x and gnome and proprietary graphics drivers? you're lucky04:08
ryanakcabug 25018904:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 250189 in linux "[Intrepid] GRUB Boot mkdir / rm permission problems" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25018904:18
ryanakcathanks ubottu04:18
CarlFKshouldn't interpid have new wallpaper by now?04:22
mneptokyeah, forget those pesky software bugs! we want new wallpaper!04:40
_Zeus_i have noticed an odd font issue in 8.1005:10
Darkrift2Anyone know why my kde4.1/kubuntu 8.10 built in wifi manager shows my ap, but doesnt connect to it? it puts it in the context menu like its connected but it says "state: disconnected" and I canot get it to connnect05:13
RAOFDarkrift2: I'd suggest it would be a bug of some kind :).05:16
RAOFDarkrift2: In particular, it seems that knetworkmanager is doing that for a number of people.05:17
Darkrift2ahhhh05:17
RAOFIf there isn't a launchpad bug filed, please do so.05:17
Darkrift2ok05:17
Darkrift2so another wifi manager?05:17
Darkrift2i couldnt figure out how to connect in command line05:17
Darkrift2im used to x taking care of my wifi connect for me05:17
RAOFPossibly.  But definitely filing of the knetworkmanager bug.05:17
Darkrift2ill do that05:17
RAOFnetwork-manager-gnome works just fine :)05:17
Darkrift2once i get wifi lol05:18
Darkrift2installing that now.. ill try it out05:18
Darkrift2thx05:18
Darkrift2ok, when i rebooted my app launcher button was gone. i added a new one but its on the right side and the menu is buggy over there, how do i move it to the left again?05:19
_Zeus_i found a serious but in 8.10; whenever you try to add something to Sessions, it says "the startup field cannot be empty05:21
_Zeus_*bug05:21
_Zeus_can anyone see if they can reproduce?05:21
_Zeus_?05:22
DarkriftXomfg this is enough to piss you off05:51
DarkriftXadept doesnt work, cant install a new wifi manager, wifi doesnt work05:51
DarkriftXi was better off with 7.1005:52
Daisuke_Idoum...  you're using alpha software.  expect breakage05:52
DarkriftXi didnt knwo it was alpha05:52
DarkriftXsomeone told me i needed to be on 8.1005:52
DarkriftXso i upgraded05:52
Daisuke_Idono one would tell you you *need* to be on 8.1005:52
Daisuke_Idono one sane, anyway05:53
Daisuke_Ido8.04 perhaps05:53
DarkriftXi was there05:53
DarkriftXin the middle of the upgrade05:53
Darkrift2ok, my wifi can SEE my ap, but wont connect05:57
Darkrift2what are my options?05:57
Darkrift2its open, no security on it05:57
Darkrift2adept wotn open, crashes or just closes as soon as it pops up05:58
virtualduse iwconfig and ifconfig to set up the interface and apt-get to install stuff05:59
Darkrift2once i tell iwconfig what my essid and channel are, what do i do after that to make it connect?06:00
Darkrift2iwconfig lists the right essid but it never connects06:01
Darkrift2dhclient never gets a lease06:01
virtualdno idea, i use wires06:04
Darkrift2great... so I guess its format and reinstall06:05
virtualdyeah probably06:06
RAOFDarkrift2: The person who suggested you upgrade to Intrepid (it's not 8.10 yet!) should probably get a bit of a poke to not suggest people upgrade to development versions.06:06
Darkrift2yeah06:07
Darkrift2wish i had logs from last week06:07
Darkrift2id give em a screenful06:07
Darkrift2well, off to format.... wish me luck06:07
RAOFAs a bit of irony... if you were trying to reinstall intrepid you wouldn't need to format; the installer can now install without formatting /06:08
Darkrift2nope, going to 7.10 then to 8.0406:08
Darkrift2because im out of media and i have a 7.10 disc here06:08
RAOFFair enough.06:08
Darkrift2and kde4 looked soo nice too06:09
Darkrift2oh well06:09
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vega--i'm having a problem with intrepids dhcp client, it doesn't seem to send the hostname to the server which results in the server not adding my hostname to DNS06:37
vega--which again results in my ip not resolving to a name -> sending mail is not possible as the mailserver requires a resolvable ip address06:37
vega--any ideas?06:38
vega--the dhcpclient for hardy works ok in the same environment06:39
* cyphase wants more awn integration06:53
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PolALThello everyone, I got a problem with waking the computer up: whenever I wake my computer up, my (PS/2) keyboard isn't working properly any more until I restart gnome. If I attach a USB-keyboard (after I have woken the computer up with s2disk) this USB-keyboard works07:38
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TeiseiWhen I try to add a new startup application through Systen -> Preferences -> Sessions, it always says "The startup command cannot be empty" no matter what I write there in the command box09:19
TeiseiCan somebody verify this ?09:20
TeiseiOr is it just me ...09:20
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kayess_Anybody else suddenly have keyboard problems? The arrow keys and page up/down, home end keys no longer work on my Thinkpad R61 -- If I plug in a USB keyboard everything is fine10:17
PolNEUyeah, I had these problems too some time ago - but strangely they vanished after I deleted the xorg.conf - now I got the problem that as soon as I wake the computer up with s2disk, the PS/2 keyboard doesn't work any longer - A USB keyboard, however, does work10:23
rrrmanion!hi10:33
ubottuHi! Welcome to #ubuntu+1!10:33
pepie34kool !hi10:41
pepie34I can't have my keayboard to work correctly10:42
pepie34it should be macintosh fr but i'm stick with PC fr10:42
sosriqwemysql-common dependency is broken for amd64. does anybody know when it is going to be fixed?11:14
sosriqwe5.0.67-0ubuntu2 is missing. mysql-server and mysql-client are not installable...11:15
sosriqweanybody?11:17
jscinozhi11:33
jscinozis Intrepid going to have openal-soft as the default openal implementation? since Debian is doing that now11:33
pepie34can't get the macintosh layout with Xorg12:48
pepie34I have set it both on xorg.conf and gnome configuration12:48
Orfeoussomeone tried intrepid?13:11
Unksiruns here13:13
OrfeousUnksi: working ok?13:14
Orfeousupgrading from hardy..13:14
Unksiworks well, except that vuze doesnt work and intel wireless is broken13:14
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Orfeousok.13:15
Orfeousdoesnt affect me13:15
Hobbseemy intel wifi works.13:15
Orfeoussudo apt-get dist-upgrade?13:16
Unksioh, which card do you have?13:16
Orfeousor aptitude?13:16
Hobbseeipw3945 is the driver being used.13:16
Unksii would think it goes with update-manager or so13:16
Orfeousdidnt work for me..13:16
ma10Unksi: Bug 259533. If that's the problem, there's a fix available.13:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 259533 in xulrunner-1.9 "Azureus(vuze) crashes on startup" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25953313:16
Orfeousfailed to count the upgrade... blabla..13:16
Unksihmm, seems im using iwl13:17
Unksima10: no, it starts up fine, but it doesnt transfer anything... it may connect to peers, but doesnt download or upload anything13:17
Orfeousany new big differences for intrepid?13:17
ma10Unksi: are you using 3.1.1.0-3ubuntu1?13:17
Unksiyes13:18
ma10Unksi: oh it starts.. probably the xulrunner uploader forgot tho close the bug13:19
Unksimight be13:19
Orfeoususing kde? gnome?..?13:20
ma10Unksi: about the transfert, are you sure it's not a problem of that specific torrent? if there's a bug we have to find out what it is13:20
Unksima10: the same torrent works fine with ktorrent13:21
Unksikde here Orfeous13:21
ma10Unksi: no error message is shown? you could try deleting your ~/.azureus directory and see if it fixes13:22
pepie34How should i tell evedv or hal that my keayboard has macintosh layout ?13:22
pepie34hal seems to overide xorg.conf13:23
Unksima10: yea no errors, will try that13:42
Unksima10: no changes by removing that directory, its quite weird as there are no errors or anything13:46
Unksiit worked when i used the deb from getdeb.net for hardy, broke when the intrepid update came13:47
ma10Unksi: i retested it now and it's working here.13:57
ma10to all: does anybody have a working azureus on intrepid?13:58
Unksiok13:58
ma10it's probably better if try to gather as much information as possbile and file a bug.13:59
Unksiyep13:59
Unksithe problem with it is though, that i cant actually find any other information... there are no errors or anything14:00
ma10Unksi: you can enable logging in the options, the in the azureus console you should see what's going on. there are also log files in ~/.azureus/logs. if you file the bug with apport we get useful informations like dependencies14:11
ma10*then14:12
Unksiok, will try and see if theres anything useful there14:14
TrewasUnksi: what does help/about in azureus say about the used java version? if it something else than sun, then that's a probable reason14:14
UnksiJava 1.5.0 Free Software Foundation, Inc.14:14
Trewasthere's your problem :)14:15
Unksihow can i change that?14:16
Unksii see no option at settings14:16
TrewasUnksi: install sun-java6-jre package and then run "update-alternatives --config java" to actually change it14:16
Unksiok14:17
UnksiTrewas: it works now, thank you14:18
ma10oh nice.. i was taking java6 for granted14:19
Trewasazureus (vuze) package should really somehow define that it should be used with sun's jre...14:20
andrewkkwas the way keyboard layouts work completely changed in intrepid? I can't find the usual xkb/symbols files.14:23
techIIanything on the kde systray missing?14:23
JontheEchidnamissing?14:24
techIIwell, i think it is there, but i can't see it, or anything on it14:24
techIIright-clicking shows the right popup menu14:24
ma10Trewas: it's supposed to work with gcj too, there's also an azureus-gcj package. we need to do more testing14:24
techIIany kubuntu specific channel for ibex?14:27
PiciNope14:28
JontheEchidnatechII: That issue should have been fixed by an update14:33
JontheEchidnawhat version is you libqt4-core at?14:33
techII4.4.1-ubuntu214:34
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techIIthe issue just appeared today (yesterday i removed the kde4 directory though)14:35
techII(since i think the configuration *is* all in the ~/.kde directory now)14:35
JontheEchidnahmm14:36
JontheEchidnaremoving it and readding it should make it work14:36
techIIthe ~/.kde directory?14:36
JontheEchidnathe systray widget14:36
Daniellthank you for bringing voxforge acoustic model to intrepid!14:39
techIIJontheEchidna, its back after taking the systrays out of the config, and killing/restarting plasma14:40
bazhangDaniell, no advertising in #ubuntu14:40
JontheEchidnatechII: all you needed to do was right click on it, select remove systray, and then re-add one from the add-widgets list14:41
Danielli am sorry, was just a hint14:41
techIIi think i got rid of it, but couldn't find it, thus had to make sure...14:41
techII(and the one i added to the desktop didn't have icons)14:42
ma10Unksi: i was able to reproduce the bug with gcj. thank you for reporting this issue!14:43
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Unksima10: great, yw :) i thought it was just me or something :D15:00
CarlFKintrepid on my laptop - X screwed - does the "low res" 800x600 thing, both live cd, stock install and if I add the nvidia drivers15:01
CarlFKworked great with hardy beta (don't have cds)15:01
CarlFK(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found) Atom 4, CARD32 4, unsigned long 415:02
techIII've had issues with X right after upgrading. The FGLRX (ati) drivers don't support Ibex's Xorg version.15:03
Unksianyone here with working iwl3945?15:06
PiciUnksi: on .27?15:17
jmichelse1hi all, I just did an upgrade to ibex, was running xubuntu 8.04, now on bootup and shutdown instead of showing the startup it shows white with some black, like the video card is missing drivers or somethin, when it finishes boot its ok15:20
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CarlFKjust installed, "ubuntu is running in low graphics mode" - /var/log/Xorg.0.log shows (++) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf.failsafe"16:12
CarlFKhow do I get it to use etc/X11/xorg.conf ?16:13
techIICarlFK, might have something to do with the final implementation of https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/bullet-proof-x16:31
CarlFKtechII: kinda - but I am still don't see how to go back to the nomal .conf16:34
techIImy best guess would be by getting the normal one to work :-/16:40
CarlFKI am not sure it is trying16:41
CarlFKor... I don't see any log file16:41
UnksiPici: no on .26-517:01
jzsmithIs this channel for discussion of Ubuntu development in general as well as 8.10 development or only 8.10 development?17:10
CarlFKwhats the difference?17:12
cjjzsmith: doesn't really matter, I don't think :)17:12
jzsmithCarlFK, the scope of Ubuntu development I guess.17:12
cjjzsmith: ubuntu+1 is currently 8.10 but it has been 8.4 in the past17:13
cjjzsmith: if you bother folks by asking "off topic" questions, you'll be asked to take 'em elsewhere.  I don't expect folks will be annoyed by ubuntu dev questions17:13
techIIhmm, any way to push ati to upgrade their drivers, again?17:16
cjtechII: need their phone number?17:16
techIIcould probably find it17:17
cj+1 (905) 882-260017:17
cjtry to create a relationship with ubuntu17:17
jzsmith#kubuntu is a little chaotic. >.>17:20
jzsmithIs it possible that Ubuntu will use KDE by default in the future or is that not really a problem?17:21
cjjzsmith: kubuntu will probably use it by default :)17:22
jzsmithcj, I was kind of wondering that. :)17:22
cjjzsmith: I haven't heard of any plans for a GNUbuntu or the like...17:22
jzsmithcj, what would a GNUbuntu entail?17:23
jzsmithOh. I see.17:23
ssamgnewsense is close to ubuntu, and only has stuff free enough to keep the GNU people happy, if thats what you are after17:25
cjssam: no, I just meant "Ubuntu with GNOME as default desktop"17:25
ssamok17:26
jzsmithActually, I have a question about that. What's the difference between gNewSense and GoUbuntu? They basically have the same goals right?17:26
jzsmithWait...17:26
jzsmithI don't mean to seem to get off topic.17:27
techIIi think gobuntu is 'official'17:27
jzsmithWhen I read about gNewSense I almost thought Gobuntu was renamed to gNewSense.17:28
pwnguincj: handing out phone numbers is probably anti "Create relationship"17:28
techIIthough, if they get support requests for people using an 'emerging' operating system17:29
pwnguinfrom what I can tell, gobuntu was an attempt to get the gnewsense people on board within Ubuntu17:29
pwnguinwhich failed17:29
pwnguinmostly because of launchpad's status17:29
techIIah17:30
jzsmithpwnguin, what's wrong with Launchpad's status?17:31
pwnguinthe source is not available17:31
pwnguinand is therefore against what gnewsense stands for it seems17:32
jzsmithpwnguin, oh. So Launchpad isn't under GPL? Heh.17:32
pwnguini have a feeling it will never be "gpl"17:34
pwnguinmore likely, affero17:34
jzsmithCanonical.com is so professional17:36
_Zeus_8.10 screwed up my fonts in PuTTY17:43
cjpwnguin: nah, it's published online17:52
_Zeus_2as i was saying, ibex screwed up my fonts in PuTTY17:53
hardyHi, I am using the latest intrepid and my keboard behaves strangely, the arrow keys don't work and ctrl works like a down arrow, is it only me?18:07
ShackJack_Zeus_2: Curious - why would you use Putty in Linux?18:07
_Zeus_ShackJack: to read my email18:08
_Zeus_ShackJack: I have some windows laptops and some linux and i like to stay comsistent18:08
pwnguincj: what's published online?18:08
ShackJack_Zeus_ - I suppose... I just ssh user@sitenname.com in the terminal :)18:08
_Zeus_yeah well i use ssh all the time so i like customization18:09
_Zeus_i use to get to elm on my server18:09
techIIhardy: it probably thinks you are using a different layout keyboard than you actually have18:10
techIIi think the location of the configuration files changed for ibex, so i'm not entirely sure where to set it :-/18:11
_Zeus_System > Preferences > Keyboard?18:12
_Zeus_:-P18:12
hardytechII, _Zeus_: this is kde actually and the keyboard is set to US18:12
_Zeus_well excuse me! :-P18:13
_Zeus_try hitting reset to defualt?18:13
_Zeus_actually, you may want to reconfigure xorg18:13
hardytechII: you are right it's fixed now. thanks a lot18:13
_Zeus_that also handles the keyboard18:13
_Zeus_hardy: why haven't you changed  your name to "intrepid" yet? :-D18:14
techIIconsolekit or something like that might also18:14
hardy_Zeus_: because some one working for mark learned it from me and register the name before the announcement of intrepid ;)18:17
_Zeus_hahaha18:17
techII_Zeus_: for fonts, i'd go from looking at putty itself, to the toolkit it uses (qt, gtk); and do the font's exist?18:18
techIIor is it a rendering issue?18:18
_Zeus_well, the fonts work18:19
_Zeus_but sometimes when i'm typing, they get flooded with the cursor color18:19
* techII doesn't have any more ideas...18:19
_Zeus_hang on for ss18:20
CarlFKI need help getting X working - I have a feeling the 'failsafe' thing isn't working as well as it should18:35
CarlFKand that continues to trouble me more than x problems, so I would like to try and fix the "low graphics... configure" process18:36
techIICarlFK, did you get it working with generic drivers (vesa, nv)?18:38
CarlFKtechII: nope.  live cd throws the same "not working, low graphics.." dialog18:38
techIIah18:38
CarlFKhardy beta from sometime in march worked great, right out of the box18:39
cjpwnguin: that phone number18:39
|dupondje|Mysql is still broken in Intrepid :(18:40
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cjdupondje: oh?  how so?  got a bug report?18:40
cjdupondje: the client or server?18:41
jasonlifeI've installed Intrepid, and noticed that pulseaudio starts automatically when I log in.    Is there any common place to set "session auto start" program?18:44
jasonlife There is no default.session anymore.18:44
homecablehi18:45
jasonlifeHow can I add a program as an session startup?18:45
techIIjasonlife, gnome-session-properties on ubuntu/gnome18:48
jasonlifetechII:  Is there a config file for it? so that I can tweak the config file directly during the installation of my program..18:53
techIIjasonlife, ~/.config/autostart/18:55
techIIjasonlife, it will also apply to kde and any other desktop that follows whatever freedesktop.org spec defines it18:55
jasonlifetechII,  Is there a generic file under /etc/ ?  I want apply this to every user..18:56
tormodjasonlife: you have the /etc/X11/Xsession.d/ directory also19:00
CarlFKtechII: I boot, get "U is running in low..", I hit "configure", set nv (or nvidia), 1280x800, hit OK, X boots into  800x600.  1280 shows up in xorg.conf. but Xorg.0.log and .old both use xorg.conf.failsafe, so I have no idea what happens once I hit OK19:04
hardyHi, the speakers in my laptop works but the headphone is not. can you please help me? http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=4a5513804cd186313f1aa79b9368796d2d02453219:04
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tormodCarlFK: stop gdm and use startx19:06
techIICarlFK, I can't think of anything, though when i upgraded to ibex, I had issues with X19:06
CarlFKand I keep getting additional xorg.conf files - now I have xorg.conf xorg.conf.1 xorg.conf.2 xorg.conf.failsafe xorg.conf.failsafe.bak19:06
techIIthen wiped the whole configuration, and generated a new one (using an ati card with the 'ati' driver)19:07
tormodCarlFK: I thought that failsafe thing was ditched from Intrepid19:07
CarlFKtormod: does it matter what user, and should I do startx on the local console, or is it ok in an ssh shell?19:08
tormodCarlFK: any user can run startx, but I think you need to be on one of the VT consoles19:09
CarlFKtormod: $startx - desktop loaded, 800x60019:09
tormodCarlFK: because your xorg.conf is a failsafe one?19:10
CarlFKand now a dialog: "use switcher" has quit unexpectedly.19:10
tormodCarlFK: did you try dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xorg-server ?19:11
CarlFKtormod: not yet - was hoping to debug the "u is running in low res, configure" thing19:14
CarlFKbut if that is being replaced, Ill settle for just getting my box working19:14
CarlFK(WW) NVIDIA(0): No valid modes for "1280x800@60"; removing.19:15
CarlFKwtheck...19:15
tormodCarlFK: yes that "failsafe" thing made more trouble than it solved19:15
DanaGhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-guidance/+bug/257809 -- lovely feature there!19:15
ubottuLaunchpad bug 257809 in kde-guidance "guidance-backends overwrites xorg.conf without confirmation or notification, if video card has changed since last boot" [Undecided,New]19:15
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Orfeoushi!19:22
Orfeousupgraded to intrepid today and now KDE is changed to KDE4??19:22
techIIOrfeous, yep19:22
Orfeousshit19:22
Orfeousi dont want that19:22
Orfeousdoesnt like it at all19:22
Orfeousis it possible to run the previous19:23
techIIOrfeous, be careful, intrepid kde4 uses the ~/.kde directory, which hardy's kde3 uses19:23
Orfeouscan i go back for the previous kde?19:24
hardytechII: but that's very confusing, my kmail on kde4 somehow uses .kde and .kde4 both in hardy now I am now sure what will it use19:25
klerfaytis it normal that "adept" upgrade is "kept back" and adept manager crashes, while adept notifier sits in system tray and does not react to mouse clicks?19:25
CarlFKtormod:  dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xorg-server  "Package `xorg-server' is not installed and no info is available."19:25
* techII isn't that big of a kde person19:25
* techII switched to kde when he upgraded to ibex19:25
Orfeoussending in 10 crash bug reports now :D19:26
tormodCarlFK: sorry, xserver-xorg19:27
klerfaytis this the right channel to ask questions about kubuntu intrepid bugs?19:27
techIIklerfayt, yes19:27
Orfeousis it possible to uninstall kde4 and run kde3 again?19:27
JontheEchidnadid you uninstall kde3?19:28
techIIOrfeous, possibly, if your configuration isn't trashed :-/ (or you can find a way to convert it back, if kde3 can't read it)19:28
OrfeousJontheEchidna: not as i know..19:28
JontheEchidnaoh, wait19:28
* JontheEchidna thought he was in #kubuntu-kde4 for a second19:29
JontheEchidnanope, no way to downgrade to kde3 in Intrepid19:29
techIIother than compile it yourself, i guess...19:29
klerfaytalt+f2 "kdesudo kate" does nothing, why?19:29
Orfeousdamn!19:29
Orfeousmaybe install with hardy packages19:29
JontheEchidnaeek19:29
JontheEchidnathat won't work19:30
techIIklerfayt, here it brings up the password dialog, but I don't have kate installed19:30
Orfeousok.. then i will be using gnome them :D19:30
JontheEchidnaklerfayt: works here too19:30
techII(as far as I know, just came from gnome)19:30
klerfaytJontheEchidna: you got clean install from alpha4 disk?19:30
CarlFKtormod: xorg.conf: http://dpaste.com/74267/  log: Fatal server error: no screens found19:30
JontheEchidnano19:30
klerfaytJontheEchidna: that must be why mine does nothing19:30
JontheEchidnalatest intrepid, full updates19:31
Orfeousmaybe i must like things as they are.. :P19:31
tormodCarlFK: please pastebin the log19:32
CarlFKtormod: http://dpaste.com/74268/  log19:33
tormodCarlFK: I thought you would need a Section "ServerLayout"19:33
CarlFKtormod: that .conf if what dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg genned19:33
tormodCarlFK: http://dpaste.com/74270/19:34
tormodCarlFK: "(EE) No devices detected.19:35
tormod"19:35
tormodCarlFK: (WW) NV: Ignoring unsupported device 0x10de0531 (GeForce 7150M) at 00@00:12:019:35
dupondjecj: mysql-common (>= 5.0.67-0ubuntu2) but 5.0.67-0ubuntu119:35
dupondjeAMD6419:36
cjdupondje: so the client libs, I think... let me check that19:36
dupondjecj: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mysql-dfsg-5.0/+bug/26195619:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 261956 in mysql-dfsg-5.0 "libmysqlclient15off requires mysql-common >= 5.0.67-0ubuntu2" [Undecided,New]19:37
cjno, that's really sparse... my.cnf, some docs...19:37
CarlFKtormod: is there anything useful to making ubuntu better, or is this just getting my box working?19:37
CarlFKI have a 7.10 cd - thinking it it works, I can just grab its xorg.conf19:38
tormodCarlFK: did it work with the nv driver before?19:38
CarlFKtormod: yes - hardy beta19:39
CarlFKtormod:     Driver      "nvidia" works (came up in 1280x800).  "nv" does not: "unsupported device"19:43
tormodCarlFK: it's strange that the server picks nv then. please file a bug.19:44
CarlFKtormod: bug against package xserver-xorg ?19:45
tormodCarlFK: against xorg to start with.19:46
tormodCarlFK: or xorg-server (sic)19:47
techIIxserver-xorg19:48
tormodtechII: you sure?19:49
tormodCarlFK: does the Xserver pick nv even if nvidia drivers are installed?19:49
CarlFKtormod: yes19:50
CarlFKtormod: the only thing I did to make it work was add Driver      "nvidia"19:50
techIIxserver-xorg-video-nv, nvidia-glx-*19:50
techII?19:50
CarlFK?19:51
techIIi have no idea what i was doing19:51
techIIdoing other things than following the conversation...19:52
tormodCarlFK: the bug is that nv is chosen even if it doesn't support the card19:53
tormodCarlFK: so it can also be a bug in nv, that it says "I can" but it can't19:58
CarlFKtormod:  bug 26197720:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 261977 in xorg-server "nv is chosen even if it doesn't support the card" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/26197720:20
CarlFKanything else I should add?20:20
CarlFKnow to get my Atheros AR2425 wifi working.20:25
CarlFKwhich has a similar history - worked with hardy beta, but not with anything on or after 8.0420:26
tormodCarlFK: no, that's an exemplary bug report :)20:26
CarlFKthanks20:27
CarlFK<- has been on the receiving end of bad bug reports20:27
benEvening, I have upgraded to Intrepid, everything seems good but just one small annoyance. GDM doesn't seem to auto-login anymore. Is this perhaps a known issue?20:39
dupondjecj: any id when mysql will be fixxed ? :s20:39
techIICarlFK, is it one of the 'new' chipsets that the main madwifi codebase didn't support?20:41
danbhfiveis there a cd for intrepid?20:41
dupondjethink so20:41
CarlFKtechII: um... I think it is supported.  I somehow had it working :)20:42
dupondjehttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/intrepid/alpha-4/20:42
CarlFKtechII: and it was definately working with hardy beta - I posted a wad of stuff bug 22854820:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 228548 in madwifi "Atheros AR242x support broken" [Unknown,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22854820:43
techIICarlFK, mine needed ndiswrapper, until i found a branch of madwifi that supported it20:43
danbhfivehmmm, thanks dupondje     I just started d/l'ing the one in daily.  I suspect it will work to, right?  or should I go for the alpha?20:44
dupondjethat should be fine also20:44
CarlFKtechII: I thought I simply installed the intrepid kernel, but just did a lean intrepid install, ath5k module loaded, but sudo iwlist wlan0 scan "No scan results"20:44
techIIi have the 'ath5k', 'mac80211', and 'cfg80211' modules blacklisted20:44
jmichelse1is there a place for changelogs in the new release?20:45
techIIi think they switched from the atheros provided parts to reverse engineered parts20:45
jmichelse1to get a changelog I mean? or is that not available till the release?20:45
techII(hardy vs ibex)20:45
techIIjmichelse1, through apt?20:46
benso does anyone happen to have gdm configured with auto-login?20:46
jmichelse1any way20:46
jmichelse1techII: any way, on the site or apt, just a way to get one?20:46
CarlFKben: I do.  works fine20:46
benhow strange20:47
benit's broken for me :/20:47
techIIjmichelse1, i've been pressing 'C' in aptitude, no idea about packages.ubuntu.com20:47
techIICarlFK, as for madwifi, im on amd64, and have been compiling from said branch20:48
CarlFKben: carl@dv67:~$ grep Auto /etc/gdm/gdm.conf-custom; AutomaticLogin=carl ;AutomaticLoginEnable=true20:48
bensame here20:49
benit was fine in hardy20:49
benworked a few times in intrepid20:49
benthen gave up the ghost20:49
CarlFKtechII: did you roll it into whatever .deb ubuntu uses, or just 'make install' it?20:49
techIIusing 'make install'20:50
DanaGOh yeah, gksu gdmsetup20:50
DanaGnow autologin and passwordless login are separated.20:50
dupondjecan I rename the version of a package ?20:50
dupondjemysql-common_5.0.67-0ubuntu1_all.deb20:50
dupondjeneeds to be mysql-common_5.0.67-0ubuntu2_all.deb20:50
DanaG... and timed is also separated.20:50
benhmm20:56
bentimed works20:56
benthat do i guess20:56
linux1hiya ppl has anyone managed to get the nvidia drivers to work with 2.6.27 yet all i get is the installer moaning about zen kernel21:07
techIIlinux1, see if CarlFK found a solution...21:09
CarlFKjust installed the new kernel - will be rebooting in a sec21:10
dupondjehow can I change the version of a .deb ? :s21:10
CarlFKdupondje: you probably want https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpdatingADeb21:12
CarlFKdupondje: debchange -i is what I use21:12
CarlFKdupondje: er.. i liked.  i really use debchange --nmu $0 :)21:13
CarlFKwhere $0 is the name of the updeb.sh script I am currently hacking with21:13
dupondjebut u can't use debchange on a .deb ?21:13
dupondjeit needs to be the source ?21:13
CarlFKhmm... du no.21:14
CarlFKtweeking a .deb sounds dangerous21:14
techIIapt-get source PACKAGE? then compile, etc; what are you trying to do exactly?21:14
CarlFKtechII: you me?21:14
dupondjemysql is fucked since some days :(21:14
dupondjeon AMD6421:14
dupondjemysql-server-5.0_5.0.67-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb21:15
techIICarlFK, ?21:15
dupondjeit needs mysql-common_5.0.67-0ubuntu2_all.deb21:15
dupondjebut only mysql-common_5.0.67-0ubuntu1_all.deb exists21:15
CarlFKtechII: use an existing .deb for the /debian dir, and hope it works on updated source :)21:16
CarlFKwhere is this .27 kernel?21:16
CarlFKtechII: you have a bug number for your atheros thing? (so I can link it to mine)21:19
linux1CarlFK, just search for 2.6.27 in synaptic package manager that what i did21:19
bdunlaphi, would this be a good place to show artwork related to ibex?21:21
CarlFKapt-get upgrade; packages have been kept back: linux-image-generic - is that expected ?21:21
CarlFKapt-get install linux-image-generic; following extra packages will be installed:  linux-image-2.6.27-1-generic21:22
CarlFK"nvidia (177.68): Installing module.  Kernel source for 2.6.27-1-generic not installed.  Cannot install this module. [fail]"21:29
CarlFKhttp://dpaste.com/74302/21:29
danbhfiveanyone here know what happened to xorg?  how does video config happen in hardy?   Like, is there a keyword name for it, a special package?  Anything that I can google for more info?21:31
Splex_whenever i run an apt-get update i get the following warnings:21:39
Splex_W: Ignoring Provides line with DepCompareOp for package perl21:39
Splex_W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems21:39
linux1CarlFK, http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel/2624221:42
Splex_where can i view more details of what is happening to spit out those warnings?21:43
techIIdanbhfive, my best guess is that Xorg autodetects everything when it starts, and the 'restricted drivers' tool modifies the (mostly blank) xorg.conf when needed21:44
CarlFKlinux1: um... do I need to read the whole thread ?21:45
marekthi21:45
marekt, W:Nie udało się pobrać http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/intrepid-backports/Release  Unable to find expected entry  web/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)21:45
marekti was trying to uprade to interpid21:46
marektand i got this error21:46
marektdo you know it?21:46
danbhfivetechII: mk, interesting21:46
linux1CarlFK, just this one will do "     22 Aug 14:47Tim Gardner"21:47
CarlFKlinux1: ok - now what?21:48
CarlFKI see the relevance, but not sure the point21:49
linux1CarlFK, i was just trying to let you know why it not working21:50
CarlFKah - thanks21:53
doggymenzi have geforce8 card, my ubuntu updated kernel to 2.6.2721:57
doggymenzand now graphics dont work in X, it starts fail-safe low-res mode21:57
doggymenzwhy?21:57
linux1doggymenz, just reboot back in 2.6.26 -- nvidia does not play with 2.6.27 at the mo21:58
doggymenzoh21:59
doggymenzya, im in 2.6.26 now21:59
doggymenzwhen will nvidia player with 2.6.27 ?21:59
RAOFRight now, I think.22:00
RAOFAny number of ubuntuforums goers have it working.22:00
doggymenzoh, cool22:01
doggymenzlink?22:01
doggymenzthe metacity minimize effect is so horribly ugly, someone needs to fix it, thank god for compiz22:01
CarlFKdoggymenz:   cause:  http://dpaste.com/74302/  http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ubuntu.devel.kernel.general/238622:06
CarlFKno solution... just they why22:06
RAOFCarlFK: You should install the kernel headers that it's asking for :)22:08
CarlFKRAOF: then how do I get it to use them?22:08
RAOFBy installing the 'linux-headers' package, generally.22:09
CarlFKthat will cause the "Running DKMS auto installation service for kernel 2.6.27-1-generic" to run?22:09
doggymenzthanks22:09
RAOFProbably.22:10
RAOFIf it doesn't, it'll run on boot anyway.22:10
RAOFOr you can run /etc/init.d/whatever-the-dkms-thingy-is22:10
linux1i take it back i got nvidia working now - i was using the nvidia installer not the dkms-thingy which work for me22:11
DanaGhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/26131822:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 261318 in xorg "Xorg can't use Toshiba Laptop Support (tlsup) input device; input device does not support 'kbd' input handler" [Undecided,New]22:16
DanaGHere's an issue I have.22:16
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DanaGs/here/that/22:17
askandHi, whats up with Mr Langaseks mail about the feature freeze? Does that mean that blueprints not marked with either Beta Available or Postponed at the end of this day will not be in Intrepid?22:27
Mez*sigh* for some reason, wpa now no longer works on my machine22:42
Mezthat, and a HDD fail = epic fail22:42
Mez(its not getting the auth packets before it decides to time out)22:42
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johHi, to which LP project shall I report bugs in libglade2-0?23:05
tormodjoh: the ubuntu project?23:09
tormodjoh: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libglade223:10
johtormod: Ah, thanks23:14
ionI am getting a partial update warning with the latest updates today23:25

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