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CarlFKbug 25466801:37
ubottuLaunchpad bug 254668 in linux "acpi hangs on boot" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25466801:37
HobbseeYes, that is a bug.01:38
CarlFK"Loading a custom DSDT should be fixed for Intrepid. So you just can give it a try."   http://launchpadlibrarian.net/17103921/DSDT.aml01:38
CarlFKwhat do I do with that file?01:38
* Hobbsee looks01:38
HobbseeCarlFK: i *think* the latter part of http://gaugusch.at/kernel.shtml should help you01:41
HobbseeCarlFK: you won't need the first part of it, as that's the patch which they say should be fixed in intrepid01:41
CarlFKthanks - trying now01:52
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CarlFKHobbsee: I did the initrd-add-dsdt script, rebooted, and dmesg | grep "Looking for DSDT in initramfs"  doesn't show anything02:09
CarlFKany ideas?02:09
HobbseeCarlFK: none, sorry.  i only found that much by looking on google02:10
HobbseeCarlFK: smb was the guy who last responded to your question, though02:10
* greg-g waves03:16
Hobbseebug 25986703:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 259867 in pam "[PAM] Unable to login: Cannot make/remove an entry for the specified session" [Undecided,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25986703:55
CarlFKs/j #ubuntu+104:21
CarlFKwhoops.04:21
dholbachgood morning06:41
sbeattieHrm, once I upload crash info via apport, shouldn't it give me some sort of feedback as to whether it was successful or something?06:48
sbeattieNo automatically opened web browser for me. Hrm.06:53
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XiXaQCan someone look at this report and tell me if I did it correctly? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/26178910:18
ubottuLaunchpad bug 261789 in evolution "Tasks preview are not word-wrapped" [Undecided,New]10:18
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Ampelbeinhi! could some member of bug-control please check on bug #250540 ? I think it could be set to triaged. Regarding importance i would suggest low. Opinions?15:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 250540 in gedit "gedit cannot save to sftp location" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25054015:58
pedro_Ampelbein: looking16:03
pedro_Ampelbein: done, thanks you for helping ;-)16:03
Ampelbeinthank you for looking into it.16:04
bddebianBoo16:10
pwnguingod17:08
* pwnguin wonders if pedro is paid to mark bugs invalid17:09
ograyes, we developers do a montly collection we transfer to his account ... want to participate ?17:11
pwnguinof course not :P17:12
LaserJockbdrung: bah, thanks for the matplotlib bug. I knew I was gonna forget something :(17:42
pedro_QA Team meeting at #ubuntu-meeting in 5 minutes17:55
LaserJockpedro_: thanks ;-)17:56
pedro_you're welcome :-)17:57
tuxmaniacCan someone set bug 257996 as wishlist?17:58
ubottuLaunchpad bug 257996 in galculator "No reciprocal function" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/25799617:58
pedro_tuxmaniac: only if you can confirm it ;-)18:00
LaserJockbdrung: I don't understand why python-pkg-resources is needed for matplotlib, could you explain?18:03
tuxmaniacpedro_: I just had a closer look and it makes me think. It is a "feature request" actually and might not be accepted since 1/x is very much a user action. Do you think I should confirm and forward the feature request upstream?18:07
LaserJocktuxmaniac: for sure it should be sent upstream, not sure what the current workflow for those kinds of bugs is though18:09
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tuxmaniachmm18:10
bdrungLaserJock: Build the package without python-pkg-resources installed and then with python-pkg-resources installed. Compare the two build log and you will see, that python-enthought-traits is missing under "EXPERIMENTAL CONFIG PACKAGE DEPENDENCIES"18:12
LaserJockbdrung: hmm, but would that mean that python-enthought-traits should be a depends?18:14
bdrungLaserJock: i am not 100% shure.18:15
bdrungLaserJock: we should contact upsteam and ask if it is ok to build the package with python-enthought-traits but do not install it by default.18:16
LaserJockbdrung: do you use matplotlib?18:17
bdrungyes18:17
LaserJockcool18:17
LaserJockI think contacting upstream would be a good idea18:17
bdrungLaserJock: i have to write an application and i use it for drawing ecgs18:18
bdrungs/have/had18:18
LaserJockit's not clear to me how optional python-enthought-traits is18:18
bdrungwe should look through all depends/recommends/suggests and check / ask upstream if they are needed18:18
bdrungLaserJock: http://matplotlib.sourceforge.net/doc/html/users/installing.html18:19
macdThere is an SRU bug a user keeps marking fix released, when it isnt. is there someone that can lock that status of a bug (like a qa person)18:19
tuxmaniacmacd: bug number? May be we could tell him politely18:19
LaserJockbdrung: hmm, reading that it makes me think it should be removed altogether until upstream thinks it's usable18:20
macdbug 22280418:20
ubottuLaunchpad bug 222804 in fail2ban "[SRU] fail2ban fails to start after reboot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22280418:20
macdI think they're under the impression the bug was filed against intrepid not hardy.18:20
macdit should most likely be moved to hardy-backports as well18:21
james_wmacd: it is Fixed Released18:21
bdrungLaserJock: what do you think about bug #246239? should we package matplotlib 0.91.4 or backport matplotlib?18:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 246239 in matplotlib "pylab.savefig() causes memory leak in matplotlib-0.91.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24623918:21
james_wmacd: there's two statuses, one for Intrepid, one for Hardy, it is fixed in Intrepid, but not Hardy, and that's what it currently says.18:22
macdjames_w, it shouldnt be, as its not ;)18:22
macdI cant see where its filed against intrepid, only the hardy milestone18:22
macdam I really reading it that wrong18:22
tuxmaniacI think the status is correct. the nominated release for hardy is still Confirmed18:22
james_w"fail2ban (Ubuntu) Fix Released " <- it is fixed in Intrepid18:23
macdI dont think it was ever broke in intrepid18:23
james_w"Hardy  Confirmed " <- still needs to be fixed in Hardy18:23
macdbut ok :)18:23
macdthanks18:23
LaserJockbdrung: well, we aren't going to put 0.91.4 in hardy18:27
LaserJockbdrung: we can either try to fix that specific bug in an SRU or go for a backport18:27
macdso part of the bug process is taking bugs filed against one release, and when they dont get fixed by the next release go back and triage them for the release they were originally filed against18:28
macdthat sounds odd, but Im on board ;)18:28
LaserJockbdrung: ok, I just chatted with Sandro18:40
LaserJockbdrung: he'd like to keep python-enthough-traits and will be adding python-pkg-resources to the Build-Depends in Debian18:41
LaserJockbdrung: as long has it stays in Suggests it doesn't hurt anybody18:41
bdrungbdrung: in which channel is sandro?18:42
LaserJockhe's morph in #debian-python on OFTC18:42
tuxmaniachi. bug 198173 seems to be fixed in Hardy itself and published in Intrepid. Can someone confirm its closure so that I can mark the bug "Fix released" . I confirm that bug is fixed from wahtever little testing I did on Hardy18:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 198173 in gchempaint "gchempaint crashed with SIGSEGV in gcpApplication::NotifyFocus()" [Unknown,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/19817318:46
LaserJockbdrung: in the mean time I'm uploading your debdiff18:52
LaserJockbdrung: if we want to take out python-enthought-traits later we can, but we need to fix the wxgtk2.8 issue18:52
LaserJocktuxmaniac: yeah, close that18:56
tuxmaniacthanks for the added confirmation18:56
LaserJocktuxmaniac: well, I use it regularly and uploaded the fixed version to Ubuntu ;-)18:58
tuxmaniacLaserJock: I saw your name in the last upload and hence asked here knowing you will respond immediately ;-)18:59
tuxmaniacI was just wondering whether it is possible to make Launchpad automatically close bugs, that are fixed upstream (say in Debian) and it has been synced. The changelog will contain Closes #debbug. Hence the origianl LP bug remains open19:09
LaserJocktuxmaniac: I think if the Debian maintainer also puts the LP bug it'll work19:10
tuxmaniacLaserJock: yeah but is it too much to ask from the LP devels, to get a bug closed on LP once the sync is trhough and a linked debbug is closed?19:10
* tuxmaniac may be stupid. :-(19:11
LaserJockno, that does make sense19:11
LaserJockI'm trying to think of any reasons why that'd cause problems19:11
LaserJockI can't think of any off the top of my head19:12
LaserJocktuxmaniac: maybe email bugsquad or ubuntu-qa about it?19:12
tuxmaniacLaserJock: yeah I will. thanks.19:13
hggdhtuxmaniac, as long as you accept not all of the bugs will be closed, it might work19:17
hggdhtuxmaniac, for example, there are usually LP bugs that do not refer to an upstream bug. No link, no closure19:17
tuxmaniachggdh: no link, no closure :-) yes. thats normal19:18
tuxmaniacbut if linked and still not closed after sync then I think we are unnecessarily having a few bugs open though they are closed19:18
tuxmaniacand we cant expect deb maintainers to put LP bugs in Closes19:18
tuxmaniac:-)19:18
tuxmaniacjust a thought19:18
hggdhthis is usually the Ubuntu packager's action (closed lp#, I mean)19:19
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hggdhtuxmaniac, propose it on bugsquad and QA. It will get a wider discussion there, and it seems a good idea19:21
pwnguinwell, its not closed in debian until an upload happens19:22
pwnguinoh, i read that wrong19:23
LaserJockthe issue is that there's no real way to auto-close bugs via syncs19:27
LaserJockbut we do want to make sure they 1) affect Ubuntu, 2) actually are fixed in Ubuntu19:28
LaserJocklinking sets up a relationship with the bug, but I'm not exactly sure about 2)19:28
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LaserJockDebian could fix a bug but something in Ubuntu could make the fix not work19:29
pwnguinwhat kind of bug would be in both a debian and ubuntu package, but not fixed by syncing them?19:29
tuxmaniacLaserJock: thats exactly what I am thinking. But I am unable to think a sample situation where this could happen19:30
LaserJockpwnguin: something that depends on other packages19:30
LaserJockfor instance, say a bug was fixed in Debian, but with our gcc version the bug fix doesn't work19:30
pwnguinhere's an idea: regression tests19:31
pwnguinim not sure if regression is the right word19:31
LaserJockon what and how?19:31
pwnguinprovide a test to reproduce the bug and verify the bug exists, then we dont need human intervention to tell when it's fixed ;)19:32
pwnguinjust human intervention to write the test in the first place...19:32
pwnguinif human interaction is nessecary, then perhaps use a tag; when the sync happens and there's a bug fixed in debian linked in LP, tag it for people to check. gives high signal19:35
thekornbdmurray, thanks for the merge and the fix19:37
pwnguini have a really fun bug19:40
pwnguinhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rrootage/+bug/26118919:41
ubottuLaunchpad bug 261189 in rrootage "rrootage crashed with SIGSEGV in __libc_start_main()" [Medium,New]19:41
bdmurraythekorn: no problem, I think that is the only api change needing a wrapper.  What do you think?20:00
dupondjeany id when mysql will be fixxed ? :(20:45
thekornbdmurray, yes, I agree20:47
bdmurraythekorn: okay, great20:49
daradibI have a question: if a new upstream application is available, but Debian has not packaged it yet, how should the bug be filed?20:50
daradibshould universe sponsors be subscribed?20:51
bdmurraythekorn: What should we do about the Exceptions part of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BugHelper/Dev/python-launchpad-bugs/changes_0.320:52
LaserJockdaradib: you mean the package is not in Debian yet?20:55
daradibthe new version, yes20:55
LaserJockor just the newer version20:55
daradibjust the newer version20:56
daradiba bug has been filed in Debian20:56
LaserJockah, cool20:56
LaserJockdaradib: you could file a bug, tag it "upgrade" and link to the Debian bug20:56
daradibok20:56
daradibthanks20:56
LaserJockdon't subscribe ubuntu-universe-sponsors until there's something for them to do, either approve a sync or upload a merge/new package20:57
daradibyes, that is what I was thinking20:57
LaserJockdaradib: awesome, thanks for helping out20:57
daradibonce Debian unstable packages the new version, I will edit the bug description to sync instead and add the sponsors, ok?20:58
nullackFolks Ive found a number of bugs with Intrepid's new 2.6.27 kernel. My testing has come to a stop though as I'm out of ideas for triaging a bug Ive encounted. Full explanation is here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=90270720:58
nullackAny help would be appreciated to get me restesting on the new build20:58
LaserJockdaradib: does the current package have an "ubuntu" version?20:59
daradibno20:59
LaserJockdaradib: ok20:59
daradibLaserJock: thanks20:59
LaserJockdaradib: if you make it a sync bug set the status back to New21:00
daradibLaserJock: ok21:00
daradibLaserJock: thanks for all the help and clarification21:00
LaserJockdaradib: no problem21:01
LaserJockbdrung: I've extracted a patch from matplotlib SVN for bug #24623921:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 246239 in matplotlib "pylab.savefig() causes memory leak in matplotlib-0.91.2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/24623921:07
thekornbdmurray, I would leave it unchanged, because it is still the "right" way to handle exceptions21:17
thekornwe can add a sentence saying that the old way is still supported, but that's al IMHO21:18
bdmurraythekorn: okay, I'll add a sentence along those lines then21:21
thekornthank you21:23
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Ampelbeinhi! could some member of bug-control please have a look at bug #139595 ? I think it could be set to status triaged. The importance i think should be set to low.22:14
ubottuLaunchpad bug 139595 in strigiapplet "strigiapplet does not save global shortcuts" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/13959522:14
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greg-gumm, I don't have the list of bugs for the hug day, but the email and UbuntuBugDay wiki page reference a non-existent webpage.23:40
greg-gbdmurray: ^23:41
bdmurrayIt looks like somebody has the month wrong23:42
bdmurrayUbuntuBugDay/2008072823:42
mrooneydoes anyone think a linux hug day would be useful, due to the new kernel23:43
bdmurraymrooney: I think ogasawara has a plan for that already23:44
mrooneyokay, cool23:44
ogasawaramrooney: yup, I'm gonna put out a call for testing to bug reports tomorrow23:45
bdmurraymrooney: hey you!  I wanted to ask you something last week. :)23:45
mrooneybdmurray: oh yeah?23:45
greg-gbdmurray: shall I rename the page23:45
bdmurraygreg-g: that'd be great23:46
mrooneybdmurray: I also wanted to point out bug 224797 to you, I wasn't sure what to do about it23:46
ubottuLaunchpad bug 224797 in migration-assistant "Hardy migration assistant offers to import "Gaim" settings instead of "Pidgin"" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/22479723:46
greg-gbdmurray: just making sure you weren't on it23:46
bdmurraymrooney: Does the bug bot have any record of what he says?23:46
mrooneybdmurray: not-a-one, should it?23:46
mrooneyis there something specific you want, someone in the channel may log their chats and have all of it23:47
bdmurraymrooney: It was quiet for 15 minutes last week sometime I was wondering what the longest pause between bugs was ... so it might be neat.23:47
bdmurraymrooney: Not as neat as the package regex's though! :-)23:47
bdmurraymrooney: oh, and I fixed lp_karma_suffix just for you23:48
mrooneywell, since it transitioned to hggdh's generous hosting, it has been getting timeouts a bunch of times, so recently it has been announcing 2-3 at once23:48
mrooneyso those aren't quite accurate in that sense23:48
mrooneyand, thanks for that suffix fix :)23:48
bdmurrayis it slow announcing or slow finding out about new bugs?23:49
mrooneyslow at finding out, it seems to be getting http timeouts randomly on grabbing them23:51
bdmurraymrooney: hmmm, I bet it'd be faster at finding out in the Canonical data center. ;)23:52
mrooneybdmurray: yes please find hosting there! :D23:52
mrooneyokay dinner time be back soon23:52
bdmurraymrooney: I can probably do that23:53
bdmurrayor at least look into it23:53
mrooneyhooray!23:53
hggdhmrooney, you did not see any reason yet for the timeouts?23:57
* hggdh will sniff the connection to LP, but...23:58
hggdhit sounds more like a python thingie23:58

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